EICMA 2024: BMW F450GS 4K

[@quattrobajeena8954]

These videos should be everyone's go-to option for an online EICMA experience.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

🤣 I wish they were mine!

[@metalsadman]

Thanks mate, always the best eicma coverage over the years.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Thanks. No one else is foolish enough to undertake such a thing! 🤣

[@slakk5093]

Want that f450. I’ll be buying something else in the meantime but that will be my next next bike 😅

[@PeakMotorcycles]

It is sort of heavy though? If it’s a Tenere 700 price, but 30kg lighter (but with just over half the power) is that so special? I think it looks good but will come down to the price. There’s a lot of 450 twins out there now for under £6k, so BMW will have their work cut out for them.

[@bradsanders6954]

A 450 twin. I dunno, everything involved in making a twin, and only a 450. But I'm a KTM guy so I dont full understand BMW-ism. I would guess this 450 weighs more than my 690 Enduro, and makes almost 30 less HP. But it says BMW on it and it looks cool. BMW is really getting the full size GS up to size, new classes will have to be held as to how ride the thing off road. The 6 cylinder bikes..................must be a Euro thing. Massive beyond most people's wildest dreams.

[@nscott26]

​@@PeakMotorcycles 30kg is a huge weight savings. Think of it this way, your Kove 450 is 175kg full of fuel, would you rather take that off road or a tenere on more difficult stuff? I own a Kove 450 also and would rather take the lighter bike 95% of the time.

[@markuswormann8852]

​@@PeakMotorcyclesI guess it will be around 8 grands,otherwise it is not competitive.

[@Lew699]

What a beauty great video , great knowledge!

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@gasdive]

I can't watch these videos as fast as they're being posted!

[@PeakMotorcycles]

You have a gap for a few hours 🤣. I had to sleep for 4h and am now about to head back to EICMA to continue filming. I’ve 22 more videos from day 1 to edit and whatever I can film today so take your time!

[@andrewstorm8240]

Good summary of BMW

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Thanks.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Thanks. I did a more thorough one from Motorcycle Live less than a year ago so this was very much a summary plus the 450 and new GSA.

[@RichardS-qh8mi]

That 450 adventure could be great fun especially with a 270 crank and CC as standard.👍

[@PeakMotorcycles]

For me, it’ll come down to the price and weight. If BMW keep it A2 licence compliant it’ll be pushing 180kg, and also the price. It’s a busy segment right now. If it’s twice the price of the competition, and a lump, the fun may be more easily had elsewhere.

[@RichardS-qh8mi]

@ It’ll basically have to outgun the CF Moto 450MT - a full 48bhp would be nice but BMW would sell even more to us experienced riders if they produce a full fat motor of around 55bhp+. Manufacturers have got to realise that full licence holders will buy many more of this category of bikes if catered for - can’t be that difficult to de-restrict with some forward planning. Also, if the price is competitive they may be onto winner.

[@georgeh.5480]

BMW please bring this to the states!

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Not sure they are bringing it anywhere yet. But if they do it’ll go wherever they can sell it.

[@stevesane800]

Thanks Andre! Fascinating BMW making a 450 but late to rhe party. They will definitely make it in its production form unique.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Lets see. I think they are still considering their RSVP and not quite at the party yet.

[@airadaimagery692]

Impressive bikes

[@PeakMotorcycles]

They are. They just need to hope there’s enough customers willing to buy them. A few BMW dealers have gone into administration in the UK lately.

[@bradsanders6954]

@@PeakMotorcycles I am amazed just how much BMW put into coming out with these wild new bikes. All the new design work times all these new models, all the tech, all the styling. They are not stodgy BMW's. BMW must really be hoping sales go thru the roof in 2025.

[@vistazo9]

What will be the price ?

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Unknown. It’s not even a production bike yet. This is just a concept.

[@vistazo9]

@PeakMotorcycles evidently CF Moto 450 MT is a forerunner, sort of a Unicorn 2 cylinders, water cooled, spoke wheels..efficient ABS switch ... For $ 6 thousand dollars... great price !

[@abajaria]

@@vistazo9 Absolutely. The fit and finish on the CFMoto is very good too. I can't help but feel that BMW have missed the boat on this one with the high seat height and 19" fronth wheel, and being two years late if it becomes a production bike. I don't really see the excitement in the BMW. Some people are ready to place deposits. Maybe they already have a 1300GS and need something smaller regardless of price and how good it is. I have a 450MT and there will be a series of videos coming in the new year about it.

[@mondalfaruk]

When is it going to launch?

[@PeakMotorcycles]

No word on that. They said 2025. I said so 8 weeks time then, they laughed. Maybe the end of 2025 as a 2026 bike, but no plans yet.

[@IanSixbikes-by6ei]

The F450 GS is interesting and I certainly hope we will were it joining the BMW line up in 2025, if it does I will certainly be heading down to my local BMW dealer for a test ride. Shame we didn't get to see both the new 1300 RT and the production version of the R20 as they would have been the stars of the BMW stand, I guess we will just have to remain patient and hope we get to see them in 2025.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Yup. I did then 1300RT was due, BMW didn't really have much new to share other than the 450GS.

[@_hold_the_line_]

That f450gs has potential but needs a decent fuel range and rake angle. BMW should ask riders what they want, not let the engineers or regulations decide.

[@bradsanders6954]

So the "rake angle".....what dont you like about the rake? Maybe customers should get to vote on rake angle?

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Always dangerous asking people what they want... sometimes you end up with Boaty McBoatface... 🤣

[@RadRaven]

💪😎💪

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Thanks

[@GaryJohnWalker1]

The GSA would benefit from being a trike - they should buy some niken tech off yam

[@PeakMotorcycles]

That'll just give them the thought of making it even wider! 🤣🤣🤣

[@Ordinaryperson1986]

Bring thst 450 to india... We will make it a huge hit

[@bradsanders6954]

Probably @ 9500 dollars or more? Would that go over big in India?

[@Ordinaryperson1986]

@bradsanders6954 This is a huge country bro.. We have more millioners here than many developed nations.. And if its made in india it will cost only 6k USD here

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Not sure where they'll make it. It might be TVS in India. I think that's where they make the 310GS?

[@sangram7730]

​@@PeakMotorcyclesYes , tvs is making the engines for 310gs & this upcoming 450gs . Ig in india it's ex-showroom price should be around $5000 dollars

[@jimmyrottencauli]

What's happening with the R1300RT???

[@PeakMotorcycles]

No news. Just the 1250 at EICMA.

[@enduromotorradtouren]

That 450 looks good. But then - 45 hp, 175 kg, 19/17 inch, hmmh. What exactly is it? Not a sporty bike, not a touring bike. Might sit in the middle and no one buys it? Cheers from an unconvinced Günter/Nürnberg

[@PeakMotorcycles]

I'm also unconvinced. I expect they'll make it A2 licence compliant which means a max of 0.26hp/kg, so any more power than 45hp will push up the weight. Or they could drop the power and the weight. That said, it's becoming a busy segment, so they probably need to sort something sooner rather than later.

[@enduromotorradtouren]

@@PeakMotorcycles If you want a twin, a low rider twin ;-), for about 6,000 Euro, then there's the CF Moto 450. Direct competitor for BMW.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

@@enduromotorradtourenI already have one of those 😁

[@fiberkim4443]

seat height

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Unknown, and it is a prototype. If it makes it to production, geometry and suspension is likely to change, though I think it’s safe to say it’ll be high. F900GS at least?

[@fiberkim4443]

@@PeakMotorcycles thank you

[@jaconieuwoudt717]

450cc... 175kgs... Eissh no. This trying to cater to a wider audience (A2) may just kill it overall.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Yup. It wasn't quite what I expected based on the excitement of some, but then everyone is into different things.

[@paulcoverdale8312]

It’s not a beema unless you can fit a 7 storey block of flats on the back an kitchen sink Andre’😂😂😂😂😂🙏🙏👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🏍️🏍️

[@PeakMotorcycles]

All the essentials for a trip to Starbucks them! 🤣

[@BibleBiker254_CoolMaxx]

Make it less bulky

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Yup. 175kg is hardly lightweight. It is next to a GSA, but then, anything is!

[@1990-t1j]

No Enduro. Shame. Nick

[@slakk5093]

Why shame on Nick. Ain’t his fault

[@PeakMotorcycles]

I think he means for BMW. Probably!

[@bradsanders6954]

BMW has learned, when it builds an enduro , its a hard miss. Marketing people say forget it.

[@rolacook222]

Old bikes, over done, reused ideas, stick this on, glue that on, but in the end it’s an “old” heavy BMW & no thank you, have a nice day.

[@PeakMotorcycles]

Yup. Some people are very excited about it. I thought it was more interesting than the 1300GSA but I’d still choose my 450MT vs the hopes from a concept that may not materialise.

[@rolacook222]

@@PeakMotorcycles Thank you for your thoughts. I do like BMW, just wish they’d get back to making them more “functional”, (my opinion)? Bring back the 600 / 50’s & 60’s riding culture stuff? They’ve made some pretty artsy exotic bikes lately that only appeal to a very limited market. Oh well? Best, R👍🏻