Elantra N vs Kia Stinger GT | Answering Your Questions EP. 2

[@tonydarby93]

I owned a 2018 KIA Stinger GT2 in Canada for just over 4 years. I just traded it in for an Elantra N 5 weeks ago. I feel it was a great decision for me. The Elantra N has better gas mileage while still being almost as quick as a stock Stinger. Also, the Elantra N sounds way better.

[@ENtense]

Great to hear from someone that’s owned both! I’ve always liked the stinger but wasn’t a fan of how big it was, plus the price tag was just a bit high for me in the past.

[@dnegel9546]

😐

[@jpizel1070]

I would pick the GT for RWD, interior space, interior/exterior looks and that spacious sport back trunk. The Elantra is great though but can't get over it's looks.

[@tonydarby93]

@@jpizel1070 The Stinger in Canada is AWD only, although it is rear biased. The sportback was nice but there is actually more leg room in the Elantra N back seat vs the Stinger back seat. And the trunk size of the Elantra more than meets my needs.

[@johnhunt9674]

Still a downgrade. Those stingers with the same mod destroys an elantra n. Even stock they aren't really close at all (stinger gt2 runs to 60 in 4.6 sec vs the N's 5.1 sec). Still getting gaped.

[@randomuserame]

Kia stinger isn't a "track ready" car from stock. It's a premium sport full-size grand tourer sedan w/hatch. Elantra N is a track-ready pure sport compact sedan. They're both nice cars, but comparing them is like apples to oranges. Kia Stinger is a nice car for what it is, but it's not going to win any track days without some serious mods. If your just looking for track day wins, go with Elantra. If you're looking for a less-popular, "dark horse" sporty larger car with some get-up-and-go, the stinger is one of the best at the price point and segment.

[@ENtense]

Great points 👍🏻

[@josephparker9726]

Thanks for sharing my clip ☝️

[@ENtense]

Absolutely my friend, thanks for sending it in!

[@Drivenbyfate1]

The Kia stinger with the same light tune (JB4 map4) sees much higher gains, and would stomp an Elantra in a straight line. How do I know? I have owned and tuned both. I also have draggy results and dyno results. I love my EN, but if both are equally tuned, it just doesn’t stand a chance. However, the Stinger is a big girl, and put her on a track and the EN takes it.

[@ENtense]

I definitely believe it. The stinger I’m sure is capable of a lot more power, but the EN is a way better track car like you said. 👍🏻

[@johnhunt9674]

The stingers just a better car overall. How many people though are realistically driving to a track every weekend to take their Elentra around the track lol?

[@Drivenbyfate1]

@@johnhunt9674 a lot actually. It is quickly becoming a known and beloved track toy.

[@johnhunt9674]

@@Drivenbyfate1 stop it lol.

[@darienhaghighat6400]

@@johnhunt9674 I mean he is right… nothing to hate about the EN and nothing to hate about the stinger. The stinger is a much heavier and more expensive car… kinda like it’s in a whole different class😅

[@SH43302]

Thanks for adding my CW N in the video. Awesome as always.

[@Ezero8]

That's insane how cheap your insurance is. I'm absolutely not surprised a tuned EN DCT is faster than a stock Stinger GT. The Stinger is a much larger, heavier car. But if it was also tuned, it would blow past the EN in a straight line. And being in California, I haven't had any issues with police (literally drove up next to them several times in the VN) and small pops from the exhaust since I normally drive in Sport mode around town. I think it's just that 1 cop was being an asshole out to get that kid. In reality, most cops are cool and not going to pull you over for a loud exhaust (that's just what ppl in other states like to think) unless you're doing something else stupid and illegal.

[@ENtense]

Yeah that guy in the previous video was unfortunate to catch a cop that was power tripping or maybe just having a bad day lol. And for the insurance, good driving record and me being a little older likely helps haha.

[@randomuserame]

Maybe it's certain areas. In LA (across the county) there are MUCH louder exhausts and cops don't seem to even hear them, streets are hit-or-miss in terms of actual speeding, and freeway/highway is the wild west.

[@Muffin1980]

Awesome vid.. as usual ha. I was gonna put a question for you to answer.. but I couldn’t really think of one, plus you’ve answered some of my questions in the past.

[@ENtense]

We’ll do more in the future 🤘🏻

[@doriansteger3344]

Stock stingers aren’t as fast as you’d think the top end is where it shines I’ve see. A lot keep up but still a great platform once tuned

[@ENtense]

Yeah if they were both tuned I’m sure the stinger would take it

[@doriansteger3344]

@@ENtense Man IDK the N stumps me every time those cars are crazy fast.

[@oraclemiata845]

Great video…. Waiting to take delivery of my Sonic Blue Kona N.

[@adriancliton9706]

Subbing dude. I own a regular 2023 elantra lol but I seriously wish i had waited for that n!

[@jwong_n]

awesome video as always, keep up the great content!

[@thtsxyaznboi]

Thanks for answering my question! Looking into a winter set myself so this helped a ton!

[@DailyStreetASMR]

I just got and Elantra N to test drive for my channel. Can’t wait

[@ENtense]

You’re going to love it, and probably not want to give it back! 😂

[@patchrikmuttin7126]

Great channel👍I traded 22 sonata n line for 22 EN. Sonata felt faster but no lsd makes wheelspin incredibly easy. Only miss pano roof, rear seat cupholders, and push button gear select (I liked the clean look it gave car)

[@Chr1sT0fu]

there's no way a sonata n line felt faster than an EN lol

[@nixc71]

What’s your opinion on the 100k/10 year powertrain warranty , is it because the cars are not reliable or due to poor maintenance ? Would love to hear back on this thank you

[@DannySlavich]

Thank you. Helpful info.

[@thatdood1806]

I have over 15k on my EN now lol. I commute about 80 miles daily mainly Highway and if I drive super dainty I can average about 30-33 mpg. Obviously I don’t drive dainty lol so I usually get about 27-29 commuting. Mine however has stopped popping as nicely, sometime even at all, recently. I’m taking it to the dealer to get it looked at so I’ll keep posted about what they say.

[@ENtense]

Someone else in the comments said the same thing, that’s weird. But yeah I’d say take it to the dealer, does the performance feel the same?

[@opadilla123]

Fastest time is on a manual elantra N its in the 11 dct will have problems with hp upgrade on these elantras

[@dannykshamo]

Love your videos! I've ordered my i30N Sedan here in Australia, which is the Elentra N, and can't wait to get it. I'm concerned though about the wheel hop which I keep seeing and hearing about. Do you think having a wider tire 255 or wider at the front would help?

[@MrCheesypuf]

Change and add some bushings including the lower torque arm, transmission mount, and upper engine mount. He made a video about it, and I’ve done it myself. It helps keep the engine more stable and minimizes wheel hop significantly

[@SINGH-ing]

How are you managing the paint issues that everyone is complaining about? Like the paint is so soft that it rock chips easily and so on. You think I should ceramic coat or that won’t work and should look into PPFing. I just want to prepare myself before I buy this car.

[@ENtense]

Truthfully I haven’t done the ppf that I was hoping to do, and I regret it. I wouldn’t say my paint is a lost cause, but it would also be sort of pointless to protect it now. But I do plan on putting a ceramic coating on it before winter. If you plan on keeping the car for a while, get the ppf done asap, literally the day you get it.

[@slow_rednline4874]

I did a graphene and paint correction..it works amazing

[@dnegel9546]

can you do both? i was wondering abkut dokng a ceramic + ppf

[@magedelghazawy]

@ENtense. Does the N manual transmission come with auto dimming rearview mirror and homelink? does yours have them?

[@ENtense]

None of them come with this unfortunately

[@magedelghazawy]

@@ENtense Thank you. It's not a deal breaker but, it'd be nice if they had them

[@username53440]

I have the same Kia Sorento, Aruba Green and X-Line. Mine is a 22 though, actually traded in my Veloster N for it.

[@ENtense]

Love our Sorento, the tech is crazy in it as well!

[@klasseact6663]

This mixing E30 is a bad idea. The car is not made to run any type of flex fuel and adding a little bit just to get a little bit more performance is setting a very bad trend because there's always gonna be people that think they can go a little bit more and a little bit more and a little bit more!

[@ENtense]

I’ll definitely say that when I get mine tuned, it’ll be for 93 gas. I agree with you for the most part, but no matter what we’ll have people pushing this car to its limits, and while I don’t mind seeing the testing being done for science, it won’t happen on my car 🤣

[@klasseact6663]

@@ENtense What more people should be doing and/or complaining about is to Hyundai about the octane learning because there's people who do everything they're supposed to do to get those extra 4PSI and they still don't get it

[@ENtense]

@@klasseact6663 this 100%. It’s cool when you get it learned, but it’s undeniably dumb.

[@klasseact6663]

@@ENtense You should not have to go on the freeway at 70 to 75 miles an hour for 15 minutes every time you want maximum performance, that makes no logical sense and they need to do some type of reflash for everybody's computer to fix it!

[@josephparker9726]

I’ve talked 2 people at burger tuning , doing e30 mixes as a weekend thing and not a (daily) don’t hurt the car , my buddy has 10 k miles doing e30 24/7 no problem

[@mitchjames9350]

I would like to do a track comparison between the 2.

[@arkenanaya2583]

i live in california and its crazy.. one police just look at me .. at the ligth. like can you not be that loud hehe

[@Stainlessautos]

Hey where in Michigan do you normally go to track the N? I am trying to get out more this year and I’d love to do some hot laps with you to see stinger vs EN on track. I normally go to Waterford hills or M1 but I’ve gone to gingerman in the past and wouldn’t mind going again. I’m on the far north end of the metro Detroit area.

[@ENtense]

I’ve yet to take it on any road courses, I’m more of a fan of drag racing, however I’m open to trying it out. I’m in southern Michigan, probably 45-hour west of you. Would enjoy going with someone one day, just hit me up 🤙🏻

[@Stainlessautos]

@@ENtense oh nice, so you are probably going to Milan dragstrip then? That’s another place I wouldn’t mind getting to, just a haven’t had a chance to yet.

[@ENtense]

@@Stainlessautos I believe that one is under construction or went through some new ownership. I wanted to go there because it was closer, but I ended up going to 131 motorsports park. I’m from Cleveland, and I used to go to Norwalk or dragway 42 all the time, miss those days!

[@velthuis2009]

I just test drove a veloster N today and it was super fun, fast, and rowdy af!!! But, I found the suspension to be obnoxiously stiff……is the Elantra N a bit smoother? I’m leaning the Elantra anyway I think. The interior is just so good!

[@ENtense]

With the EN you have the ability to adjust the suspension making it soft or stiff to your liking. Daily driving I have it on its softest setting, and it feels just fine and is not harsh at all. Plus, it’s faster than the VN 😁

[@velthuis2009]

@@ENtense awesome! Thanks! I’d love to test drive one soon. Now that I have a taste of the “N” performance, I’m really interested. Plus my wife says she actually likes the look of the EN, and she’s fussy af! Haha so it’s a double win

[@slimv3.162]

You can change the suspension on the VN as well my dude. The EN is slightly quicker in a straight line but the handling is slightly better on the VN. So either way it's a win win with either car. We'll other than looks and we all know the VN looks miles better from every angle lol.

[@arthurmroyce]

What suspension mode? There are three levels of shock stiffness on the VN and EN. The soft mode is pretty firm but since I have driven "sporty" cars most of my life it feels normal to me. Driving on the street in N mode will probably cause internal bleeding :). I drive in soft and sport (medium) shock settings. I do love my Veloster N.

[@ReckYardKing03]

For insurance in California, I just turned 25 and full coverage clean driving record I’m looking at 150 for insurance

[@ENtense]

Not too bad for your age honestly. It will go down over time

[@LiteralSparkPlug]

Does the Elantra n have an auto dimming mirror?

[@ENtense]

Unfortunately no

[@LiteralSparkPlug]

@@ENtense I still want one lol. I’ll just have to live without it. My current car has one. I’d be losing the Adaptive Cruise and the Auto dimming mirror. Does it have Auto Highbeams?

[@ENtense]

@@LiteralSparkPlug yes it does have the auto high beams, but I hate them 😂

[@LiteralSparkPlug]

@@ENtense I love them lol thanks for answering my questions that’s super awesome

[@iprfxn6942]

Hey EN! I got my 22 n about 3 months ago and it sounded great nice pops and crackles when shifting up and down or letting off the pedal around 3-4k RPM but it slowly got quiet over the past months and 2k miles to the point it no longer makes much sound at all ever heard of this happening ? Thanks in advance

[@thatdood1806]

Mine has started doing that now as well. I’m a few months shy of a year owning it and just over 15k (I commute to work) but I’m having the shop check it out cause it almost sounds clogged or like air flow is being restricted somewhere.

[@Muffin1980]

Oh wow.. shitty. I know that if you have the AC on it doesn’t pop n crackle much at all..

[@ENtense]

I would take it to the dealer, I don’t think there’s any reason it should be quieter with that low of mileage. Does the performance feel the same?

[@Verto4321]

I've seen videos of people replacing the exhaust valve spring with a Mopar exhaust valve spring because it's either too loud or too quiet but can't quite make up its mind

[@jordynhixson655]

Have you heard anything on when they are potentially releasing the 2023 models?

[@N-Krazy1976]

I have 2023 on order. Should be built in next couple weeks!

[@ENtense]

I’ve heard they’re being built like Mike said, and I’ve also heard on the EN groups that many dealers are starting to get allocated ‘23’s. Should start seeing them pop up late October if I had to guess.

[@jordynhixson655]

@@N-Krazy1976 Nice, do you know if there are any changes different from the 22 models?

[@N-Krazy1976]

@@jordynhixson655 No I don't believe so other than the Re-call for the seat belt will be dealt with already and the hyundai emblem on the steering wheel will be attached properly so you don't get smacked in the fac with it if the air bag deploys lol . BTW I live in Canada so not sure if any differences in the U.S cars.

[@sierrakilogulf]

Mine is on its way on a boat right now. Should be here in 4 weeks or less.

[@44actual]

Wait, I thought the only modes the car had was N and N custom. 😉 I’m pretty sure that those are the only modes my Veloster N has. 😊

[@ENtense]

Always N mode 😂

[@dillonpatel6510]

my elantra n does pop as much as i heard other peoples and I am in RI so is about 60F- 70f

[@ENtense]

Did you mean to say it doesn’t pop as much?

[@nelsong3410]

I might be moving up to Newport in the coming months. If I do we should meet up. I’ve yet to see another N on the road yet

[@nmode22]

The stinger is fast yes but you just get way more with the Elantra for performance

[@johnhunt9674]

That's just a lie.

[@nmode22]

@@johnhunt9674 Where is all the strut bars? High performance tires? Bigger breaks? Customize track modes? There is a reason why the Elantra n gets more talk. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@johnhunt9674]

@@nmode22 because it's newer lol. You can't put high performance tires on a stinger? The brakes aren't better, and the Elentra is front wheel drive..... No thanks.

[@nmode22]

@@johnhunt9674 😂😂😂😂 so now we talking about after market. In that case they can all be fast. I wanna see that that gt beat the N on a track. Would love to see it. 😂😂😂

[@donbaird3826]

Wrong