Elden Ring's Demigods - Explained! By VaatiVvidya | The Chill Zone Reacts

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[@abrigedpyeman21]

Vaati: rot can be beautiful Nurgle: Thank you been trying to tell that to people for years now

[@hmmmooops]

Carian queens have a tradition of gifting a sword to their husband, but the first carian queen is Renalla, which means that she came up with the idea and is therefore S-tier waifu

[@grassblock7668]

And Radagon either kept it or reforged it into some golden order-y thing (theres differences between japanese and english text)

[@theinquisitorisamage1653]

42:21 - Funny you mentioned that door; Vaati also made a video called the "Lord of Frenzied Flame" that explains where it leads to and it's pretty eye opening, though I can't put my finger on why that is exactly. SmoughTown goes into detail about it as well, but I dunno how you feel about longer lore-videos - there's also Zullie the Witch and Bonfire VN, both who look into the character designs and environments, which is pretty neat.

[@kuroyukiLXIV]

I love all the commentary you add to your reaction videos, still the best reaction channel I’ve found! I’d really recommend vaati’s prepare to cry stuff for elden ring, he has made them so cinematic with specially made soundtracks. The Lord of Frenzied Flame is still my favorite. Edit: just got to the end of the vid, if you really wanna know about that door, i really suggest The Lord of Frenzied Flame ;)

[@Blackhart-7]

I know there's a line of dialogue about the door to Moria, but the person who actually heard it and figured it out is a madlad

[@hmmmooops]

When was that in the video?

[@ardabaser1349]

Literally mad.

[@DarkRonin366]

I can I actually see Melina being a sibling of Malenia and Miquella since Marika and Radagon seem to have the rule of 3 when it came to having children.

[@jeambeam3173]

Except now we have Mezzmer

[@TheJonkler1]

In regards to Melina i combine the 2 most popular theories:Melina is the daughter of Radagon and Marika as mentioned but what they dont know about their child is that she is the reincarnation of the Gloam-Eyed Queen,The first holder of the Rune of Death(She could even be the Gloam-Eyed Queen herself possesing the child of Radagon and Marika but thats up for debate or she could not even be their daughter and only the Queen)

[@Mare_Man]

I think Ranni took part in Godwyn's assassination because he was _probaby_ the strongest Demigod, and _also_ the one most devoted to the Golden Order.

[@fillosof66689]

I like to believe that she didn't deliberately target her half-sibling, but instead accepted whatever goals the Black Knife Assassins would aim to achieve as a necessary price for getting rid of the influence Two Fingers held over her through her very flesh. My main argument is her complete absence from the power struggle of the Shattering. Her path to remaking the Order in her preferred image only requires her siblings to die because it is a condition for remaking the rune, and even then it doesn't look like she planned on doing it herself.

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

@@fillosof66689 I think it was a conjoined effort with rhikard and ranni , rhikard needed to cripple the golden order by getting rid of its best guy and ranni needed to rid herself of the golden order by killing her body , I don't think ranni ment anything by it , it was business not personal.

[@jeambeam3173]

​@@fillosof66689I feel like she didn't take part in the shattering because her destroying the Golden Order has more to do with her personal freedom and personal freedom in general so her trying to raise armies and take over making her the dictator goes against what she believes

[@CChissel]

I want to play Elden Ring so bad, it’ll probably be years from now until I am able to

[@hermannmakuta3311]

Whats the Reason ?

[@CChissel]

@@hermannmakuta3311 I don’t have anything to play it on

[@hermannmakuta3311]

@@CChissel Uhhh

[@CChissel]

@@hermannmakuta3311 what?

[@hermannmakuta3311]

@@CChissel - "i get it and im sorry"

[@LastSecBloomer]

I don't know how to explain the door underground without some big spoilers... It hides another entity, an ancient one, who sees the Greater Will and Golden Order as anomaly and seeks to "rectify" that and the state of the world. There are references to it throughout the game and NPCs tied to it, like Hyetta, Yura, knight Vyke, the wandering merchants and most importantly Melina. Finding the door and getting to it is the hard part...once you open the door (very simple task, lol), you can commune with the entity inside and open up another ending, one of the cooler ones, and with possible future implications. If you do a number of things right - very hard to pull off if you don't know what and when - you also get rewarded with a special cutscene with Melina after the ending, provided you let her live (yes, it is possible). The whole ordeal and the ending you get out of it, as well as that special cutscene, have some heavy lore implications and open up a bunch of questions. It's the most interesting ending, for me...

[@grassblock7668]

24:59 finally someone calls out Ranni on how killing Godwyn was some immaculate bullshit

[@sundenjager6425]

Wrong tower you were thinking teh omen were at morgots tower. At Ranni's tower was a Godskin Noble.

[@hermannmakuta3311]

23:29 - Ranni actuall hides herself in the bushes in the Elden Ring Manga

[@godofemergencyfood5432]

This would be a awesome series to watch Vaa’s videos

[@54fedase90]

I would recommend watching frenzied flame lore video, the thing is quite interesting

[@vergil8833]

Miquella is the most interesting of the bunch to me, probably because we know the least about him, and the fact that he has Griffith symbolism all over him. I really hope they'll release a huge DLC about him. Something else I really want to see in a DLC is transformations. Some souls games have that, like turning into a weird dragon thing in Dark Souls and a lycan in Bloodborne. Elden Ring really has the opportunity to give you many such transformations the same way they give you new eyes depending on stuff you do in the world. Some transformations I have in mind range from obvious to more obscure, but I think an Omen transformation and dragon communion transformation makes to much sense to not be a thing. The omen curse would give you more body hair and make horns grow out of you here and there, givng you a strength buff and maybe some new effects with blood spells while locking you out of using fundementalist spells or something. The dragon communion transformation would just be a more severe version of the dragon eyes you get from consuming 5 or so dragon hearts, after 10 you might get scales and after 15 you get a tail or something. If they expand upon certain aspects of the game they could make more niche transformations aswell however, like a rotted form if you join the cult that worships the scarlet rot, mainly just giving you access to actual scarlet rot spells because theres currently only Scarlet Aeonia which makes a scarlet rot theme build very difficult, like theres not even a scarlet rot ash of war. One even more out there I recently thought about is a marionette transformation. The marionettes are those spazzing wood robots that the sorcerers of Raya Lucaria made, but Rannis doll body is quite similar. It would be cool if we could transfer our souls into a marionette/doll like that which we could customize a bit after a questline. It might boost some sort of magic while making you more resistant to poision and rot. But going through the game it's easy to think of many possible transformations, I just hope they put some into the game. Also glintstone muskets that use mana to shoot instead of arrows. A marionette dude wielding magic guns is just a cool and weird concept, theres no basis for it in the lore other than Raya Lucaria being quite advanced if we follow real world architecture history.

[@c1deon363]

btw when you going to Ranni's original body, theres a godskin fatty, the 2 omens in darkness is on the way to divine tower with Morgott's and Mogh's great runes

[@epiccthulu]

18:49 Ok i think people forgot that the royal family, rennala and ranni, serve moons and not stars. The shattering started a series of battles where demigods were fighting and dying. Radahn, halting the stars in their place, put Ranni’s fate in stasis. That means, to me, Ranni couldn’t be discovered and killed until someone defeated Radahn and allowed the fate of the royal family to continue…meaning their fates could end in death. I think this is why Malenia fought Radahn. Rennala’s children’s boss areas show how intermingled they still are, sharing Iron Virgins and creepy hands and troll knights. 32:25 I do believe Miquella sent her to fight him, to let the stars move and for fates to continue. Given the Amber starlight dew we find, maybe let his fate continue

[@The_Vent_Goblin]

28:42 Can't help but think of Papa Nurgle with that line. "Rot is beautiful because it brings forth new life" is just such a Nurgle sentiment

[@nerdiboy5128]

9:20: FromSoftware could very well have been inspired by Tree Man Syndrome, when it came to the Omen, but I also believe that it may been have been inspired by medieval descriptions of Hansen's Disease, better known as Leprosy, an infection that causes the necrotization of the soft tissues of the flesh, leading to certain facial features and extremities being disfigured or completely absent, and in extreme cases hardened, almost tumor-like growths which are the accumulation of dead skin cells (I've seen early twentieth century photos of afflicted peoples' feet swollen up to where they can't ever wear shoes or even sandals again, or where their hands become these clubbed, useless things because some of the fingers fell off, while the rest were encased in growths, and they either were forced to amputate the limb or just... live with it). In many of these old descriptions of the disease, the body of a leper was often described as 'horned' or 'covered in horny flesh.' Admittedly, they could've also used the term horned to describe someone with warts, furuncles, and other bumps of the flesh, but then again these growths are usually a sign of infection, and sometimes showed up on the bodies of lepers, so who knows? In addition, lepers were often depicted as being evil because according to medieval philosophy, the appearance of one's body often reflected the nature of one's soul, exposing what they were really like even if they tried to lie about it; therefore, if one was born or became exceptionally beautiful, it meant they had a pure soul, like all those fairy tale princes and princesses, but if they were born hideous or became so later in life, it meant they were vile monsters (obviously though, this extremely superficial theory doesn't account for evil people who behave horrendously yet were handsome or sexy, or heroic figures who weren't born with good looks, who were rather homely or even terrifying to gaze upon, and just kind of assumes ). And during the times of the Black Death, when it wasn't either the Jews or the Romani being accused by the Christian majority of poisoning the well water of whatever community they lived in, thus spreading the plague, it was lepers that served as a scapegoat for any hardship the people suffered. One of the evidences I have of this comes from Mohg and his obsession with blood, as well as a curious personal verbal tic of his servant, Vale. A commonly prescribed treatment for people afflicted with Leprosy involved drinking or washing themselves in the blood of pure-hearted (or at least 'beautiful') people, like infants or virgin maidens. Of course, in the eyes of non-medical practitioners, this obviously only served to make lepers seem more evil than they truly were, yet oddly the doctors who prescribed the treatment weren't seen as evil... you'd think that they'd share in the blame too, but nope, it was only the lepers. And Vale frequently refers to the Tarnished Hero as 'Lamkin' whenever they engage in conversation. To most, this bears no significance to them. To others who've studied folklore, this is a clue, because Lamkin could be a reference to the Childe Ballad, 'Long Lankin' also sometimes called 'Long Lamkin' or just 'Lamkin,' which is about a guy (in some versions a disgruntled stonemason cheated out of his pay, in others a bogeyman or devil type figure) who sneaks into a lord's manor home, with the assistance of a false nurse, so called for letting Lankin into the house, and the two murder the lord's wife and infant child. It must have also been spectacularly gruesome too, because there was blood EVERYWHERE, from the nursery, the kitchen, all the way to the entry hall and down the stairwell. When the lord returned and found Lankin and the false nurse after their vile work was done, he had the latter burned on a pyre, while Lankin was hung from a gibbet nearby. If you're curious about the ballad, it's been covered by many various artists, most notably the rock group Steeleye Span.

[@Melon4palmer]

Jarjar Martin, a hearthrob to us all

[@NocnaGlizda]

Every time I listen to these videos from Vaati a thought comes to mind. Why does it always have to end like this that we kill someone? With such an interesting and intriguing plot and side plots, such a rich lore why can't we sit down and talk? Once you kill someone it's over. More questions than answers. Good reaction, thanks.

[@TheGallantDrake]

That’s actually a really good question, and the answers are really enlightening. The meaning behind the violence and death is at the heart of Elden Ring and Dark Souls. The nature of so many of the tragedies found in these worlds is that some flaw drives good-intentioned people to such extremes that unnecessary violence is the result.

[@RebeleneM]

Because it's a video game.

[@Tsurf]

28:25 ...hey, should I get the Inquisitor on the line? That's sounding real Nurglish to me. Edit: This was a really fascinating watch, brb, gonna check the dude's channel.

[@listmist2370]

Radhan we fought was nerfed as he was rotted and holding back the stars

[@GM-xk1nw]

the omens are near the tower of morgot (the omen king), the tower of ranni has a noble.

[@Pewafamath]

28:55 even a gardener plays in the shit.

[@Zero-tk1hb]

If you want to get deep in some lore that Vatti doesn't usually cover you can watch Hackshaw and SmoughTown. TB SKYEN also makes videos about lore conveeid by design

[@andrewtrenkel]

Scarlet rot = Red Nurgle

[@JediMasterRevenantMADNESS]

The door at the bottom leads to the three fingers. You have to take off ALL armour and weapons in order to be able to open it, and upon doing so immediately are burned by the fingers, singed with madness. This will open up the frenzied flame ending.

[@savvazotov4196]

Yeah! He reacted to VaatiVidya again! There prepare to cry of his are also sooo good.

[@savvazotov4196]

The "flesh" door you talked about is the door that guards the 3 fingers, VaatiVidya has a video about that, called something-something, prepare to cry, frenzied flame

[@bloodfartmoon2765]

Watch Vaatis video on the frenzied flame that one explains the door of flesh

[@BlueAsterismSolstice]

So the door, you get naked, and get branded as prime cattle to the frenzy flame ranch and its path of true anarchy by all means necessary. Complete with wild western heat and becoming a bandit with sharp shooting. The Frenzy Flame ending was not an ending all along, but instead the beginning of Texas unleashed. The most welcoming feature of this reality is knowing about the new sheriff in town when you declared this town wasn't big enough for the two of you. Really though, the fact that it's not big enough is a flaw of historic architects at work.

[@kyleharrison713]

How far gone in the head to you have to be to let a 'giant serpent' eat you believing that it'll merge you together with it and somehow this will help you take down the gods? I've heard of mental breaks before, but this takes the damn cake lol.

[@PiratePawsLive]

Jack if I remember correctly the door is for the Frenzy Flame ending (the only one I ever did. What can I say? all must burn...). You need to finish the quest line of Hyetta to get access to the ending. You can look it up if you want. You also get cool yellow burning eyes and the Frenzied Flame Seal. Completed Elden Ring only once. And that with the "Ascended Mod", did full frenzy build :D.

[@jameswillis5682]

DragonHeart was THE shit. Love Draco, my he live forever amongst the stars.

[@travytrav2207]

7:30 ish those omens you encounter are actually on the way to Mohg and Morgott's divine tower, not ranni's

[@esmith8818]

The only reason we’re able to beat Radahn is BECAUSE he’s holding back the stars and afflicted with rot. And even then we need to gang up on the guy with a mob of summoned tarnished. Healthy, undistracted Radahn? We’d have no chance

[@reaperofthings]

11:41 not a working theory dude, that’s outright stated in game. Marika removed the Grace from Godfrey’s eyes and from all of his loyal soldiers after their final conquest, which she told them all that she would do long before, and then drove them out of the Lands Between as Tarnished warriors spurned by the Grace of gold, where they would then live, fight, grow strong and die in foreign lands, where she would later return the Grace she stole from them, bringing them back to life and, she hoped, making them strong enough to kill the Elden Beast and get rid of the Golden Order. Which is when the Greater Will takes notice and brings her other half, Radagon back into the picture, because Marika made Radagon out of her faith in the Golden Order and it’s patron God, and the loss of that faith made her look more critically at everything it did, but in exchange she basically gave the Greater Will a pawn that it could move about with greater ease than it could Marika herself, and a suitable way of shackling her if she tried to turn against it. Ranni wasn’t the only one who had a hand in killing Godwyn you know. His own mother, Marika, holds command over the Black Knives and even helped them steal fragments from the Rune of Death her brother, the Shadow Maliketh, had been guarding ever since he single handedly destroyed the Gloam Eyed Queen and the Godskin’s. Marika was just looking for any excuse possible to shatter the Elden Ring, and she got it. Ranni also only wanted a fragment to remove her soul from her body and made the Black Knives specifically to do so. With her soul displaced, the Two Fingers couldn’t find her and as such couldn’t continue controlling her fate. Godwyn doesn’t actually play a part in her plans, it simply doesn’t make sense. Her being the “orchestrator of the night of the Black Knives” seems to purely be in having made the blades for the assassins as repayment for stealing from Uncle Maliketh. So yeah, she does share a part of the blame for having made the weapons that killed Godwyn, but I don’t think she planned for it.

[@an_enchanter1754]

If you want some more high quality Elden Ring/Dark souls lore content; I highly recommend the YT channel Hawkshaw.

[@stanisrafu5819]

Have you noticed, that Radahn has Magnus vibes?

[@cybernac3213]

Reaction Request, Internecion Cube Series (Day Four)

[@jabbawookeez01]

thr door has to do with the lord of frenzie flame ending. 👍

[@TwoSevenX]

Vaati needs to start coming up with his own theories or start getting content strikes.

[@theinquisitorisamage1653]

Genuinely curious, but what are you talking about?

[@cupofcocoa3679]

If you want to watch in my opinion a better lore channel, try watching some of Hawkshaw lore videos

[@florianstuder3128]

53 minute vaati reaction??? lets go!