Finally, I can find out what the game I played for 100+ hours is about
@benhutchinson80202 жыл бұрын
Fax
@bobtheross12672 жыл бұрын
It’s about getting maidens 🙌🏼
@Jermcicle2 жыл бұрын
It’s about worshiping giant fingers and a poop guys curse and astrologists fighting a giant gold tree or something along those lines.
@theblackbaron41192 жыл бұрын
@@Jermcicle It is all just an excuse for Miyazaki to show feet, and for George RR Martin to not finish a story. If he just gives up halfway through its "open for interpretation".
@xov872 жыл бұрын
yeaus
@hydara.r.70032 жыл бұрын
These crucible knights were also bestowed by the Erdtree the ability to input read your healing
@lukebennett2578 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@sirkies Жыл бұрын
yep, and immediately launch themselves intercontinental ballistic missile style to hit you for same amount you just healed
@austinlovely-eg7ll Жыл бұрын
Lmfaoo I didn’t get this at first but I realized now 😂
@jullysaw6214 Жыл бұрын
right???
@oncesponces4269 Жыл бұрын
He's gonna attack to ASAP you're using healing
@VaatiVidya2 жыл бұрын
I know it's a lot to take in, but this video will be the foundation for all the lore videos to come. So bookmark it, come back later, take your time, and try your best to remember the main characters names... Godwyn and Godrick and Godfrey and Godefroy and Malenia and Melina and Miquella and Marika and Radahn and Ranni and Rykard and Rennala..and Radagon. See! Easy!
@fakjuw80092 жыл бұрын
bruh
@DEMillerEarl2 жыл бұрын
Ok so godefroy wasn't a typo, good. This game man...
@ervandiantodewanata40952 жыл бұрын
Always mistook melina and melenia name.
@sbendel44112 жыл бұрын
YT gonna have to write a fat check with all the views this is gonna get
@Tommo37562 жыл бұрын
Hi
@moderateselfcontrol10 ай бұрын
"The big twist in Elden ring". When I played I did not realise there was a twist, in fact I basically didn't even understand who I was fighting or why I was fighting them 99% of the time!
@karmine36405 ай бұрын
You won’t understand anything in Elden Ring unless you go out of your way to try.
@mrlionsfan11355 ай бұрын
@@karmine3640 and who is Trying to go hours upon hours out of their searching for a half of paragraph of information when it could simply give us a 30 second cutscene. It's not cost effective. It's not immersive. It's the games only real flaw. If I go running around for a hours in a huge ass game to figure anything out. It's not immersive. Not fully.
@rafaypervaiz51405 ай бұрын
@@mrlionsfan1135 Id argue its the most immersive part
@YourSweatyUncle5 ай бұрын
@@mrlionsfan1135all souls game are like this lol, youre not onto something unique. Egghead
@joesaiditstrue5 ай бұрын
@@YourSweatyUncle how does a valid critique make them an egghead, go touch grass nerd
@larrytotter57902 жыл бұрын
There was actually another fragment of Destined Death stolen, which was then given to the lobsters in Liurnia, to prepare them for the ineviteable age of the crabs.
@DanateDMC2 жыл бұрын
Age of the Crustaceans
@con-0-tron2942 жыл бұрын
In the end.. Everything becomes crabs.
@Glacorite2 жыл бұрын
Crustaceous cheapskates that had the potential to rule the lands between and become Elden Lord
@kennypowers19452 жыл бұрын
@@con-0-tron294 ha ha, no
@nikx2 жыл бұрын
@@con-0-tron294 Just as the Law of Regression demands.
@cezarrogeriodemourafelippe14422 жыл бұрын
One interesting thing to note about the fight with Godfrey in the arena where he's holding Morgott's corpse, since he was stricken from his grace when he kiled his final great opponent and became Tarnished, when we, years later, come back to that arena to find him there holding Morgott, you can see Morgott's body dissipating into golden dust just like our grace points us towards our goal, but Godfrey's grace is pointing at us, his next great enemy, finally giving him purpose again. You can see this better if you fight him at night tho.
@amishtechwizard55402 жыл бұрын
Damn that’s interesting
@yukiokami83802 жыл бұрын
I saw it was like wtf!....ooooh.
@hitosyura2 жыл бұрын
Damn! I will pay attention to that on my NG+ run
@isosev2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god. That is serious attention to detail in game design.
@cezarrogeriodemourafelippe14422 жыл бұрын
@@yukiokami8380 That's my favorite fight in the entire game after Radahn, so goddamn epic
@IMANOOBSHOOTME2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the Marika/Radagon connection, I think that Radagon was Marika from the start. You mentioned that Marika had to go to war against many different forces that threatened the Erd Tree. Godfrey was a skilled leader and warrior, but in order to wage war more effectively, she needed another champion that was an extension of her own will to lead her forces, so she created Radagon. Later on, when it came time to take over Liurnia, Marika found herself at an impasse due to Rennalas forces matching hers in power. Instead of continuing to fight Rennala directly and risk losing more forces, she sent Radagon with the intent of having him seduce Rennala from the beginning. Their marriage would put Rennala directly under Marika's thumb without Rennala ever really knowing. But, there was a consequence to creating Radagon. I don't think that Marika was powerful enough to just will a sentient being into reality. I think that Radagon is a PART of Marika that she separated from herself. Specifically, he is the part of Marika that had blind faith in The Greater Will. He is after all supposed to embody the Golden Order. That absence of faith is what caused her to begin doubting The Greater Will. Radagon on the other hand instinctually desires to keep the Order intact, which put him in direct conflict with this new faithless Marika who wanted to test the limits of what she could get away with. When Marika banished Godfrey, Radagon went back to her so there could still be an Elden Lord. When Marika shattered the Elden Ring, Radagon tried to fix it. Marika wanted a tarnished to take the title of Elden Lord, but Radagon doesn't, which is why when you find Marika, Radagon suddenly appears to stop you. This of course is just my interpretation though. There are likely some details that I'm missing that disproves it completely.
@maxsun132 жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense to me!
@Sabrina-tl3jv2 жыл бұрын
Amazing comment !
@nehakhanom22932 жыл бұрын
i like this theory
@DrDoggo-py5mo2 жыл бұрын
This theory is amazing!
@ericbeal72842 жыл бұрын
this is now part of my headcanon, thanks
@nbeutler1134 Жыл бұрын
I honestly just want to read a book set in this game's universe, the lore is enticing and the aesthetic of it all is so satisfying.
@weebsandgeeks745 ай бұрын
its martins work he is lazy as fuc* he havent completed his previous work i highly doubt he will make a video on elden ring
@maxien1014 ай бұрын
There's a manga I was told! The art is great, but I doubt it goes any deeper than the game reveals (have not read it)
@ashtonsmith28594 ай бұрын
@@maxien101i’ve heard the manga is more comedic then a story
@ScuttleBerry4 ай бұрын
The manga is fun! But it's definitely comedy but still did have some lore in it. Haven't read it in a while now tho, I should catch up
@gaurav_W3 ай бұрын
read lord of the mysteries tbh its even more terrifying and bizzare then elden ring lore.
@matheusataide33682 жыл бұрын
Finally, now i can understand the lore Behind soldier of godrick. After 100 hours of gameplay, my current theory is that he was a soldier who fought for godrick, but i may have missed some kind of twist.
@jarrarwinks84702 жыл бұрын
Best boss in the game!
@YourPhysicsSimulator2 жыл бұрын
@@jarrarwinks8470 Don't forget Patches!
@couchpotato79092 жыл бұрын
@@YourPhysicsSimulator Or the Spirit caller snail
@uberboomer86702 жыл бұрын
He's a direct descendant of pinwheel
@Doomchild2XL2 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment.
@SauraXD2 жыл бұрын
i checked his channel every day, ITS FINALLY HERE!
@Uselesslink2 жыл бұрын
AHAHAHAHHA LITERALLY ME TOO!!!!!!!!
@jarrarwinks84702 жыл бұрын
"It is finally time" Gamer jail prisoner
@Fernthe_plant2 жыл бұрын
Mf same. Ive been seeing lore videos posted but anxiously waiting for vati's
@Tommo37562 жыл бұрын
Ah
@jweave862 жыл бұрын
Same
@SoundOfTheAviators2 жыл бұрын
Wow... I felt like I understood the story and world of Elden Ring better than the other games, likely because I've come to look at these stories through your eyes. You still manage to blow my mind, however! Thank you once again for your beautiful interpretation of the masterpiece that this game turned out to be.
@sunbrobellemont85262 жыл бұрын
Avi, you're an amazing artist... Now where's our elden ring song 😳
@NakVerrion2 жыл бұрын
@@sunbrobellemont8526 You should check their channel! Hehe
@arkalis_2 жыл бұрын
@@sunbrobellemont8526 It's out now!
@amintron2 жыл бұрын
cringe
@dnd4022 жыл бұрын
YOO Avi! love your music!
@lewismcgregor9975 Жыл бұрын
Feels very cool when you realize that the branches of the Erdtree probably represent the law of causality with its branching effects and the trunk and roots represent the law of regression
@jcace132 жыл бұрын
I want an updated lore video after the DLC comes out and reveals that The Greater Will serves the Lobsters because of their sheer, overwhelming power.
@RoyalMudcrab2 жыл бұрын
Godrick was a fool, he grafted a dragon's head when he should have grafted one of those fucking lobsters if he wished to kill us.
@pa1nted2 жыл бұрын
CRAAB PEOPLE CRAAB PEOPLE WALK LIIKE CRAAB TALK LIKE PEEOPLEE
@eduardosalinasgarza80662 жыл бұрын
@@RoyalMudcrab you're suggesting Godrick would be capable of killing a Lobster
@Porkishi2 жыл бұрын
If the dlc isn’t the lobster army invading the island with the god of all lobsters I’m not buying it
@blackhat42062 жыл бұрын
Jesus I finally stopped having the nightmares! Why did I read this comment!?
@MikeDep2 жыл бұрын
I found my first lobster when I was around level 20, and after about 30 minutes of trying and dying I decided he was tougher than Margit whom I had killed 5 levels earlier. When I reached level 90 I returned to the site of that lobster and had my revenge. No longer would he haunt my dreams with his BS.
@salwaahmadz62152 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that I was the only one who struggle with big ass bear, oversized lobster, chaotic spirit tree shit, and stupid crab slam in this game more than the boss in this game.
@sheldonjplanktonn2 жыл бұрын
@TheNecroAlchemist - the Rune bears are the worst
@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii61492 жыл бұрын
@TheNecroAlchemist awaiting vaati's lobster outer god lore video with great anticipation
@olgagaming55442 жыл бұрын
That's why I never took a fight against any lobster and I shall never try
@prameshgurung43992 жыл бұрын
Fight them while riding the horse, makes a bit easier.
@Xellon922 жыл бұрын
17:50 So I am pretty sure that I can fill in Marikas motivation here. The important Item descriptions for this are the Scarseal/Soreseals: "These seals represent the lifelong duty of those chosen by the gods." "Solemn duty weighs upon the one beholden; not unlike a gnawing curse from which there is no deliverance." In the very beginning when Marika became the chosen champion of the Greater Will and therefore became the God of the Lands Between she was completely onboard with the Situation, after all she would be the God of this world and spread the Golden Order that she fully believed in. But as time went on she realized that this Situation isnt nearly as perfect as she thought it would be. So she began to ask herself Questions: Is the golden order really perfect? Am I really a god or rather just a puppet of the Greater Will, being cursed to do its biddings for all time to come? It was these questions that made her try to find a way out of this situation, which will basically be the start of pretty much everything that we than experience in the game. She "creates" the Tarnished by taking the grace away from Godfrey and his people. Sending them to fight in wars where they will die and later be reborn to become stronger. All with the goal that someday someone strong enough would appear to be able to fight a God. Shattering the Elden Ring to create even more chaos and hardships, once again basically as training for this Warrior who would hopefully one day appear. Binding Master Hewg to the Roundtable Hold, so that once that strong Warrior arrives, they would have a Smith good enough to make them a weapon powerful enough to slay a God. Creating/Reviving Melina and giving her the purpose of being able to burn down the Thorns of the Tree so that the chosen Warrior would be able to get inside. So to come to a conclusion: Marika did all of these things so that someday someone would arrive who is able to kill her and the Elden Beast, so that she would finally be free from being the greater Will's puppet for all eternity.
@stormshadow2812 жыл бұрын
All that work just to have your only reply be a bot lmao rip
@blackhat42062 жыл бұрын
Makes some sense, though. Could be.
@wesleywilcox88292 жыл бұрын
I think this is vary accurate, at least from the item descriptions that I have read.
@BardoJoe2 жыл бұрын
Best theory I've encontered so far, gj.
@clarkesteinman50982 жыл бұрын
I’m totally down with this theory
@zaanjodriver53510 ай бұрын
6:56 vaati shows an enormous "mind map" of all the elden ring lore, is this viewable anywhere? I'd really like to see this whole mao
@yosoybrunon9 ай бұрын
sameee! Just scrolling down looking for more info regarding that map! A link, anyone??
@Karthikch9134 ай бұрын
I'm assuming that's his own mind map he made for himself.
@bryanmejia39984 ай бұрын
does anyone know which mind map he is using?
@diegomiy93834 ай бұрын
You guys can also check out Queelag, she's a souls youtuber as well and uses mind maps a lot
@templarkid.4 ай бұрын
@@diegomiy9383 I'm more curious about what program is he using.
@_ONGBAL2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I can't even imagine how many lore there are hidden in the world of the Elden Ring. Incredible Vaati !
@makaroninini2 жыл бұрын
28:38 looking at this makes you appreciate that stuff even more
@thelastking50722 жыл бұрын
When the God of War visit the God of Wisdom abode :)
@casperloveless2 жыл бұрын
My respect to you all, Lord ONGBAL and Lord Vaati.
@PeacefulSerb2 жыл бұрын
Compared to you it's like I'm playing these games with wet soggy noodles instead controller. Hate your videos ♥️ (not really, just jelly)
@batmon6962 жыл бұрын
Yeah bruh, you go back to deleting and humiliating these gods with sticks
@RichaadEB2 жыл бұрын
fantastic timing, literally just beat it last night and I still have NO IDEA WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE STORY
@Yatsuzume2 жыл бұрын
For real I was thinking "let's watch some old dark souls lore videos before I go sleep in expectation of elden ring lore vids coming out soon" and then this shows up aaaaa
@finaljoses2 жыл бұрын
Dumbf
@josetomascamposrobledano46182 жыл бұрын
Learn to read item descriptions
@Waltarwhiet2 жыл бұрын
@@josetomascamposrobledano4618 maybe I'm not interested in spending half of my gameplay reading shit, when I can find it all out in a 30 minute video that is actually entertaining.
@UnifiedEntity2 жыл бұрын
@@josetomascamposrobledano4618 That's not good story telling at all.
@ParityS2 жыл бұрын
My theory is that Marika and Radagon are sort of an Adam & Eve character. Where they were originally the same person, and then Radagon was created from a piece of Marika to go do his own separate work. And then eventually he was called back to her to become one again, just like the law of regression.
@brandonbaty22912 жыл бұрын
I like that touch!
@memonomoto74192 жыл бұрын
This is what I believe as well. So they're considered as one person, only because Radagon is an actual piece of Marika. Which leads me to think that Empyreans are likely beings that are able to break off pieces of themselves and those pieces are given a life of their own.
@donmaidonmai2 жыл бұрын
The Red King and White Queen of the Rebis, but essentially this!
@Tournesolz2 жыл бұрын
@@memonomoto7419 Just like Malenia with Millicent. Just perfect!
@lemmonboy64592 жыл бұрын
Random thing: But when looking at the Giant’s Fire Whip, it says the Radagon hated his red locks, implying some connection to the Giants themselves. So like, how can Radagon be both part giant and wholly Marika who killed the Giants?
@gingahbeef2604 Жыл бұрын
I know this video is over a year old, but I bought and played Elden Ring on release, and I finally got around to beating the game today on a character with over 142 hours. Speedrun world record, no big deal. First thing I did (I'm not even in Limgrave yet on Journey 2) was come here so I could understand even a part of what the hell was actually going on. I was not disappointed. I plan to watch all the lore videos you've made over the last year, because your writing, editing and pacing are all just so, so good.
@aliteralplateofspaghetti512 жыл бұрын
Something I thought was interesting was the fact that the greater will seems to despise the Tarnished for one reason or another, so the Tarnished even being allowed a fleeting chance of becoming Elden Lord had to be a scheme of Marika. The Erdtree refused to bless the Tarnished beforehand, you actively have to burn the Erdtree to access the Elden Ring because it will not allow you in, and the Elden Beast itself, the Elden Ring incarnate, fights against you in order to prevent you from becoming Elden Lord. To that end, I think that the Tarnished becoming Elden Lord is a separation from the greater will, as you wrest control of the governing power acting on behalf of the greater will against it's, well, will. This is further supported by the fact that in 3 of the 4 Elden Lord endings, you actively change the logic of the world previously established by greater will. Considering Marika already had doubts about the Golden Order, I'm positive stopping the influence of the greater will through the Tarnished was her ultimate goal.
@tomatoes_tyler2 жыл бұрын
wow this theory actually makes sense and very interesting, thanks for sharing it!
@TommyConlin2 жыл бұрын
The erdtree rejection is probably an act of retaliation from radagon. Which he presents the true golden order and it's rules and want to prevent us from changing it by becoming new elden Lord or any of the ending
@TommyConlin2 жыл бұрын
Marika's true purpose is likely wanting living beings and life in the lands between to continue to evolve in any form without interference from greater will (which let it's up to us to decides with it with golden order other than frenzy flame total destruction of life). Tarnished is her tool to do that.
@bigballofpaint44072 жыл бұрын
But isn’t marika radagon? Why would she/he try to stop us then
@aliteralplateofspaghetti512 жыл бұрын
@@bigballofpaint4407 Perhaps it's a split personality thing, a part of Marika that fears change. Another possibility could be that Radagon was a part of Marika created by the greater will to keep her in check. After all, the two seem to be in opposition to one another, so either seems at least somewhat possible unless I'm missing something
@lucas11001 Жыл бұрын
12:07 I really love that bit of lore. It's just fantastic to have him behave himself through trapping his fighting spirit inside of a giant beast on his shoulder
@jimshotfirst4887 Жыл бұрын
Dudes will literally manifest a stand to seal away their own bloodlust instead of going to therapy
@lucas11001 Жыл бұрын
@@jimshotfirst4887 🤣🤣
@jackofromsouth11 ай бұрын
JoJo reference????
@twobandaids9 ай бұрын
@@jimshotfirst4887😭😭
@dalfaroux2 жыл бұрын
I just realize how many people are involved in the production of one video. We really appreciate all of your work guys, this is quite a large community.
@raidermaxx23246 ай бұрын
how many people?
@mikedelgrande5296 Жыл бұрын
Damn, it’s awesome revisiting these videos in preparation for the upcoming DLC. I’ve been dying to do another playthrough but I’ve already completed ER like 10 times so I want to wait until the DLC drops and do one full playthrough.
@YourPhysicsSimulator2 жыл бұрын
Now cometh the Age of the Lore, a thousand year voyage under the wisdom of Vaati
@federicoolmo86892 жыл бұрын
Nice one
@ozzyb.hammer55992 жыл бұрын
Through the guidance of Vaati, I shall become the true Elden Lore...d bu dum tish...
@Aryan-is5yz2 жыл бұрын
@@federicoolmo8689 nice one indeed
@filurenerik16432 жыл бұрын
Sir Vaati Vidya, the alllllll knowing!
@YourPhysicsSimulator2 жыл бұрын
@@filurenerik1643 He reached godhood with his infinite knowledge
@Jetiko272 жыл бұрын
I think Radagon is an alter-ego implanted in Marika by the Greater Will to control her. An unfaltering guard of the order, as opposed to doubtful and inconstant Marika. That's why he's trying to stop you from facing the Elden Beast, when Marika logically would not. It's probably also what she means by him no "being her" yet, saying that he hasn't overtaken her will at that time.
@ricardorehlander3482 жыл бұрын
This does make perfect sense. I will keep this in mind. Thank you
@tonyolo45912 жыл бұрын
I think her race(numens) have certain quirks like longer lives,......and longer lives can often lead to extreme differences in the way sex/reproduction occurs. I think her race by default is like a yin/yang themed race and each single entity has 2 halves. i think its the reason malenia and miquella came out the way they did. radagon would become marika or vice versa when they come to this realization themselves.
@antoniomanuelrosendo7022 жыл бұрын
YES, that's what I think too. Also, I think queen Marika still controls the grace and thats why you have guidance to go fight Radagon and the Elden Beast (which they obviously wouldn't like) and are guided even helping Ranni, which objective is to kill the fingers and change the rule of the Greater Will. In fact, one of my favourite moments in the game was when Ranni disappears from her tower and a new site of grace faintly appears telling you where did she go.
@JoshBran_D_On2 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of weird yin yang stuff in this game, D is also a weird twin person, maybe he's Numan too?
@caitfitz80292 жыл бұрын
Radagan was a leal hound
@dizzyhq51002 жыл бұрын
It’s always fascinating to discover the difference between how you initially envisioned a games narrative before it’s release, to how it actually unfolds
@gvoj23352 жыл бұрын
Before: Radahn bad. Melania yas queen. After: I will f'ing murder the Blade of Miquella and avenge my best friend and his horse, Leonard.
@AxxLAfriku2 жыл бұрын
I have fewer than 1 friend in the World. That's right. Everybody disses me for making bad videos. I think they are perfect though. Who is right? My dissers or me? Which side are you on, dear di
@lukasruston86182 жыл бұрын
@@AxxLAfriku The truth is that people hate others who self promote on other people's channels, maybe you should fix that before you start advertising yourself elsewhere.
@zerohero57532 жыл бұрын
Well the other popular lore explanations say that Marika and Radagon were like two halves of the same being and that Marika shattered the ring out of grief and disillusionment. This video says that all of these events were planned by her which makes no sense since Ranni did all of the shenanigans to become a Star God in her ending.
@ShahbazBokhari2 жыл бұрын
@@zerohero5753 I’m wondering this as well, and Vaati did explicitly state there is evidence for this and that’s going to be another video, I’m powerfully curious.
@Incarnationofpessimism Жыл бұрын
I am starting up Elden Ring and at 2:57 in video, the loud string instrument played when first opening elden ring. It sent a chill down my spine, the reveal of the twist and high string note held
@dustinschalk88252 жыл бұрын
“And I suspect it was probably because of these lobsters….” That was quality humor right there 😂
@EnricoPietrocola2 жыл бұрын
I lolled so hard there
@dianabarnett68862 жыл бұрын
Those fucking railgun lobsters...
@theobvu2 жыл бұрын
imagine thinking Godfrey and the Crucible Knights lost to the lobster. I mean its possible u know 😂🤣
@DeusIzanagi2 жыл бұрын
@@theobvu I mean, a single Runebear could 100% take Godfrey, Radagon and the Elden Beast at the same time. Those things are actual abominations. So why not lobsters too
@Psyopcyclops2 жыл бұрын
@@DeusIzanagi What about a Runebear riding a lobster? Sounds like something they would do lol
@FedbergRoland2 жыл бұрын
Explaining the "void" creatures like Astel is going to be interesting. Can't wait for that!
@user-dj9iu2et3r2 жыл бұрын
Yea when I fought him I was just like… “what the actual fuck? It’s an alien, right? But why does it have a human skull head?” Interesting creature for sure and I love how it seems to be made out of mini stars and planets.
@wulfrik29872 жыл бұрын
Theres a bunch of other ones at look similar underground
@kayhaich2 жыл бұрын
They're aliens. You're welcome.
@GoldenSunAlex2 жыл бұрын
Those ones are pretty easy actually. When the stars fall, they take on various forms depending on where they fall. For example, the fallingstar beasts fall in mines, or near mines, so look like rocks etc. Astel fell near where a load of bones were, so took on aspects of that, and the Onyx lords etc. seem to have taken on that form due to close proximity with humans.
@AlecH13132 жыл бұрын
@@GoldenSunAlex What about the fallingstar beast that fell outside the capital walls? It fell closer to a major human population but didn't take the form of an onyx lord.
@1oace7682 жыл бұрын
My theory for the Greater Will's inability to interact with us in the lands between comes not from an actual incapability, but the idea that it's fighting this same battle on infinite worlds just like the Lands Between. That's why when you fight the Elden Beast you see an infinite forest of Erdtrees before you. It shows that you are not special in this cosmic game, and that you are just another pawn, a "bit player." As Varre would say. There are likely countless Elden Beasts, countless Lands Between, and countless envoys of the Greater Will, who's values of Order are primordial and absolute. Edit: To clarify, I'm not proposing multiverse, I'm saying there could be an infinite amount of "worlds" in this universe that are being imperialized by the greater will. Places completely different from the Lands Between.
@mysterymaster1802 жыл бұрын
I really like this idea
@samuraioftheeclipse49542 жыл бұрын
So multiverse
@garrettfricke40762 жыл бұрын
I like this, but it doesn’t explain the significance in the outer gods interference in the specific lands between. As stated a single human was able to seal away the outer god of Rot all by himself, this to me ties into the description for the mending tune of perfect order stating that the gods are no better than men and make mistakes such as the outer god of rot so I agree your position is likely… extremely likely but the significance of the lands between seems to have some significance so idk if I’d say it’s one of many happening at the same time but again that is plausible especially whenyu consider previous* lores. Great job !
@petercottantail78502 жыл бұрын
I hope they dont do multiverses for the main lore, such a waste of creativity when all the answer end up as, "its just another universe🤪🤪🤪🤪
@Ciaurrix2 жыл бұрын
@@samuraioftheeclipse4954 Not necessarily multiverse, which is just another way of saying "alternate world" with "alternate" versions of each character but even some completely different world with different actors and rules
@marcos_bou8 ай бұрын
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:01 *🌌 Elden Ring's Lore: El origen cósmico y la llegada del Gran Will.* - Introducción a los Outer Gods y su papel en Elden Ring. - La llegada del Gran Will y su deseo de influir en el mundo. - La creación del Elden Ring como encarnación del orden y las leyes fundamentales. 02:22 *🌳 El Erdtree y sus secretos ocultos.* - Revelación sobre la verdadera naturaleza del Erdtree como un parásito. - La conexión entre el Erdtree y el concepto de crucible primordial. - El declive de la veneración hacia los objetos y seres relacionados con el Erdtree. 04:42 *🖐️ Los Dos Dedos y su papel como enlaces con el Gran Will.* - Descripción de los Dos Dedos como emisarios del Gran Will. - El poder y la influencia de los Dos Dedos en el mundo de Elden Ring. - La importancia de los Dos Dedos en el contexto del juego y su relación con el protagonista. 07:10 *👑 Marika, la Eterna, y su ascenso al poder divino.* - Orígenes de Marika como empyrean y su ascenso a la divinidad. - La utilización de la sombra de Marika y su vínculo con Destined Death. - La transformación de Marika en una figura central del orden y la divinidad en Elden Ring. 09:07 *⚔️ Consecuencias de la manipulación de Destined Death.* - Explicación sobre la eliminación del concepto de muerte en Elden Ring. - La influencia de la manipulación de Destined Death en la sociedad y la naturaleza. - Interpretación de la muerte y la inmortalidad en el contexto del juego. 11:01 *🌟 La era dorada de Marika y las Guerras del Orden.* - Descripción de las guerras lideradas por Marika para imponer el Golden Order. - La importancia de los demigods y sus roles en las guerras de Elden Ring. - La formación de alianzas y conflictos que definieron la era de Marika. 14:22 *🌿 La caída del Erdtree y el inicio del conflicto.* - Consecuencias de la caída del Erdtree y la disolución del Golden Order. - Descripción de las facciones en conflicto y sus motivaciones. - La pérdida de la estabilidad y la aparición de la guerra como resultado de la caída del Erdtree. 16:43 *💔 La búsqueda de la verdad y el desmoronamiento del orden.* - Análisis de las motivaciones de Marika y su cuestionamiento del orden establecido. - La importancia de la lucha y el sufrimiento en la búsqueda de la verdad. - La relación entre el poder divino y la responsabilidad moral en Elden Ring. 18:43 *⏳ La marcha de los Tarnished y la planificación de Marika.* - Descripción del destino de Lord Godfrey y los Tarnished. - La estrategia de Marika para fortalecer a los Tarnished y su retorno planeado. - La manipulación de los eventos por parte de Marika para alcanzar sus objetivos. 20:11 *🤔 Las intrigas políticas y la ruptura del orden.* - Análisis de las alianzas y traiciones en el contexto de la política de Elden Ring. - Descripción de las consecuencias de las acciones de los líderes y los cambios en el poder. - La influencia de los eventos históricos en el presente del juego y sus repercusiones. 22:33 *🕵️ Marika y Radagon conspiran para robar un fragmento de la Runa de la Muerte y shatter el Elden Ring* - Marika podría estar detrás del plan para robar un fragmento de la Runa de la Muerte y shatter el Elden Ring. - El casamiento de Marika y Radagon marca un punto crucial en la línea temporal, seguido por el robo de un fragmento de la Runa de la Muerte y la ruptura del Elden Ring. - La identidad de Radagon como parte de Marika o como una entidad separada se convierte en un gran misterio, dejando espacio para interpretaciones diversas. 24:01 *🤔 Interpretaciones abiertas sobre la unión de Marika y Radagon* - La unión de Marika y Radagon parece representar dos leyes fundamentales opuestas de la Orden Dorada. - Marika personifica la ley de causalidad, mientras que Radagon representa la ley de regresión. - La interpretación personal del espectador es clave para comprender esta unión y sus implicaciones en la historia. 25:58 *🔮 Nacimientos, misterios y preparativos para la guerra* - Los hijos de Marika y Radagon, Miquella y Malenia, nacen con aflicciones y son elegidos como empyreans, posibles sucesores de la Grande Voluntad. - La guerra por los fragmentos del Elden Ring se avecina, con diversas facciones buscando tomar el trono, incluidos los tarnished que regresan de su larga marcha. - La incertidumbre sobre la identidad y el destino de los personajes principales añade capas de misterio a la trama. Made with HARPA AI
@eses13122 жыл бұрын
8:42 When starting Ranni's questline, she introduces herself as "the one who stole death"
@dantemiles689 Жыл бұрын
If you watch the full video he later says Ranni stole only a fragment of death from the black blade. She stole a piece from the black blade not from the elden ring.
@thepenismightier8120 Жыл бұрын
It could also be symbolic because she was born a demi-god and casted her ruin away and killed her physical body. "Stealing death" could also mean that she took death for herself and thus, committed suicide.
@grilledleeks6514 Жыл бұрын
@@thepenismightier8120no. It's referring to the shard of death she stole
@Chadius_Thundercock Жыл бұрын
@@thepenismightier8120that’s an English teacher level stretch
@TopherPeloso-r6r9 ай бұрын
But she had a shadow and killed a great finger. Being a child from them don't make sense
@lucianjaeger17082 жыл бұрын
A lot of people seem to miss Ranni sitting on a dead two fingers when they talk about her I'm glad you caught it. In fact it looks as though it was mangled not just killed which suggest there was hatred in its killing.
@DarrieusJohn2 жыл бұрын
Which I honestly don't get cuz the scene focuses on the mangled corpse for a little bit.
@GrimViridian2 жыл бұрын
Crazy to me that they don't, it was the first thing I noticed
@fuchsmichael932 жыл бұрын
From my understanding Ranni stole a Fragment of Destined Death to kill herself and escape from her Empyrien Body that is bound to the greater Will, since she is drawn to other outer Gods. The Black Knifes who serve the two Fingers (Assassins Incantations) used this to kill Godwyn. Maybe for the same Reason the nameless King was exciled, he befriended the ancient Dragons they fought War for so long. If the Greater Will was involved in Godwyns Death it would explain why Marika shattered the Elden Ring after learning the Truth about the Death of her Firstborne. Or Ranni was just pissed at the greater Will because her Father left her Family to go and impregnant himself.
@user-dj9iu2et3r2 жыл бұрын
LOL that last line is so strange and its truth makes it hilarious.
@fiendishpoptart48962 жыл бұрын
I definitely think she tortured it before ultimately killing it, maybe even watched as it bled out. Broke every Bo e in those two fingers lol
@derekdunbar63522 жыл бұрын
Fun fact! The Numen in Elden Ring are a pretty overt reference to "the men of Numenor" from Tolkien's lore. They, too, were powerful, long-lived men who came from somewhere other than Middle Earth (which is kind of another way of saying "land between" isn't it?)
@96Jambones2 жыл бұрын
Glad I’m not the only one to have thought that when I heard “Numen” and that they were from a different land haha. Glad that seems to be the case. Love when other literature inspires concepts in games. Cheers!
@ghost_tess31992 жыл бұрын
So much of Elden ring appears "inspired" by LOTR, I have to wonder if George RR Martin wrote anything at all.
@Herptroid2 жыл бұрын
The Erdtree is similar to a twisted version of the trees of Valinor.
@ethannoon28232 жыл бұрын
Also, numen literally just means divinity in Latin.
@petercottantail78502 жыл бұрын
That would give the numen who were banished to the eternal city for worshipping the moon and rising as black knives to assasinate godfrey a more solid motive, they aren't from here. They don't want to worship the elden beast, they want their old god the moon back
@rytlocknroll Жыл бұрын
The game is a lot more engaging now that I understand the basic lore. Thank you for this!
@stupidanon59412 жыл бұрын
25:39 Right after she says Radagon has yet to become her, she calls him 'my other self.' It is not at all uncommon in myth for deity figures to appear in different guises, or other aspects, of themselves. When she says he has yet to become her, I think what she is saying is that he, as an aspect of her, has not graduated from that position into the totality of her being. That is actually an extremely common motif in myth, lesser aspects of deities that are the deity, but, cast off, separated, or otherwise disconnected and haven't yet returned to what spawned them. I think we should also be careful about saying how open-ended they are about this, because if we look at all the evidence, we have to ask, which hypothesis better explains what we're seeing? Radagon can't have previously been a separate being from Marika if all the demigods are her direct offspring. Furthermore, law of regression destroys _illusion_ , as well as artificially wrought changes. Judging from what the law of regression says, changing Radagon back into Marika is just that, a _return_ . If you look at Radagon and Marika both, it is clear that they are literally broken, fractured beings. They're literally missing chunks of themselves. Radagon is both a piece and embodiment of Marika, though she had to leave a portion of herself behind. Radagon's origin is in Marika, and the way law of regression interacts with the statue, as well as what is said about the statue's origins, is the closest we're ever going to get to proof of anything in a From Software game. Radagon would only 'become Marika' once they had reunited, once the law of regression, as a cosmic law not a spell, had worked itself out in Radagon and Marika.
@jaredmead10122 жыл бұрын
So Radagon is a shard Marika that was broken off and gained sentience that was slightly different than Marika.
@DriftSpaceZero2 жыл бұрын
I am starting to think perhaps Radagon was created as an attempt by Marika to remove those parts of herself loyal to The Greater Will so that she herself could rebel against it; that might explain why she shattered the ring, but Radagon tried to repair it; Radagon is the physical embodiment of the loyalty to The Golden Order which once resided within Marika.
@spinyslasher65862 жыл бұрын
Well said. Radagon and Marika clearly were in a sort of conflict. I think the reason the Greater Will split away Radagon from Marika was because it wanted to spread its influence on the Lands Between more efficiently. However, it made a miscalculation. I think Radagon represents a stern loyalty to the Golden Order, and when Radagon was split away from Marika, she started to question the true nature of the Golden Order as her loyalty to it waned. This was the catalyst to her enacting her master plan, beginning with divesting Godfrey of his grace and leading to the creation of the tarnished.
@SemenTheSailor2 жыл бұрын
@@DriftSpaceZero This actually makes the most sense out of anything I’ve heard. We know that going against or blaspheming the greater will takes a huge toll. Look at Blaidd he literally went insane because he had to go against the greater will in order to stay loyal to Ranni. Creating a disassociated persona in order to blaspheme tracks with the worlds lore.
@DriftSpaceZero2 жыл бұрын
@@spinyslasher6586 We must have been typing simultaneously. I think Radagon was specifically created by Marika to physically remove that loyalty to The Golden Order so that she could act against it. I agree he represents loyalty to The Golden Order, and I think he was split from her specifically because of her doubts about The Greater Will and The Erdtree.
@nyalan83852 жыл бұрын
I personally think that Marika fragmented her soul, similar to how you can fragment the elden ring into runes, and the fragment of her soul was Radagon, the aspect of herself who was loyal to the Greater Will. My reasoning being that at some point Marika began acting in opposition to the Greater Will, this point is around the same time that Radagon began to appear. Then when Marika stepped too far over the line, Radagon was called back from Liuria and was made to marry Marika in an effort to contain her, and in an act of rebelion Marika shattered the Elden Ring to keep Radagon busy in order to buy Horah Loux and the tarnished more time to finish the plan.
@dantemiles689 Жыл бұрын
Hm this theory actually makes alot of sense.
@area52music Жыл бұрын
Its the only thing that makes sense of all these events in another convoluded RR Martin story.
@mysterybob2050 Жыл бұрын
finally i now understand the story of a game i spent 100 hours playing
@tj2themax Жыл бұрын
i know this was a while ago but I wanted to say this makes a hell of a lot of sense. But there is one thing I think I missed tho and its about Godwyn. Why was he chosen to be killed and who wanted him dead? to prove a point or something?
@rospoho Жыл бұрын
@@tj2themaxit was Ranni that commissioned his death, why exactly I don't remember but she probably wanted to start the war of the demigods for her own plan of destroying the Greater Will.
@NewBachtrian2 жыл бұрын
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@VaatiVidya2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir! You've summed up the goal of my channel, for sure.
@dogeboi60942 жыл бұрын
The fuck is this? Can you pay money to make your comment stand out more?
@rightyboywilson49112 жыл бұрын
@@VaatiVidya wholesome
@rightyboywilson49112 жыл бұрын
@@whiteknight1414 darn right she is
@4heedhaaahahahaha282 Жыл бұрын
Self dono lmaoooo
@mcclanesjolund4813 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting to deep dive your elden ring content till I beat the game and I finally got to playing it and I’m almost done - I’m literally so excited to have so many videos of yours to watch
@austindixon93732 жыл бұрын
Love all the dialogue that’s used here, makes it seem like we’re watching a documentary about the Lands Between
@MrInuhanyou1232 жыл бұрын
nothing new for vaati souls videos lmao
@austindixon93732 жыл бұрын
@@MrInuhanyou123 true, but there’s so many more NPCs in Elden Ring and so much more dialogue to use from more people
@lausch58542 жыл бұрын
I’m new to the Souls franchise and had a hard time putting the pieces together… This is the best content I’ve watched in a long time on YT. The research, the quality of the video, the editing, the voicing, the naming of all sources, this is so much work and it’s so fantastically done. Thank you a thousand times…
@NobleVagabond25522 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the rabbit hole
@lausch58542 жыл бұрын
@@NobleVagabond2552 I just beat the Elden Beast. My first playthrough took me 190 hours and event though I platinum the game, there is still so much side content I have to do. This is by far the best game I've ever played
@iPlayDotaReligiously2 жыл бұрын
@@lausch5854 agree!
@thomaskopv23662 жыл бұрын
If you enjoyed Elden Ring, i would highly encourage you to try out all the other games in the franchise. Each one is a masterpiece in its own right, and then also check out Vaati's video on that matter. His videos are just a beautiful gift.
@lausch58542 жыл бұрын
@@thomaskopv2366 i actually bought DS3 and Sekiro on PC and Demon’s souls on PS5… not sure where to start, probably DS3, it’s probably the closest to Elden Ring…
@CezarTeodorescu2 жыл бұрын
War, pandemics… the only thing constant in this world is Vaatividya delivering 10/10 content.
@DROOPYSNAIL48132 жыл бұрын
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@SonKunSama2 жыл бұрын
Well, it's been constant pandemics and war as well
@antmanfersil Жыл бұрын
Great video, great voice, well done. The lobsters part is funny.
@twycross34502 жыл бұрын
I always thought that Marika's motive was less about understanding the Golden Order that she created and more about seizing full control of it and escaping the Greater Wills influence. I know that GRRM's influence has been a bit of a meme in some parts of Reddit, but I do think that Marika is Elden Ring's Cersei. She's behind the whole thing and has contingency after contingency to help bring about her freedom and true reign over the Lands Between. Unfortunately for her, that changed when the Greater Wills figured out what she was up to and forced Radagon, who was a loyal follower of the Golden Order and, by extension the Greater Wills, to become the new Elden Lord to keep Marika in check. I think that she was able to continue scheming in spite of this however, but had to resort to using and aiding others in their scheming, such as helping Ranni to steal part of the Rune of Death. I think Marika did this because she knew that Ranni also opposed the Greater Wills, so their interests were aligned. She didn't realise that, however, that in order for Ranni to see her goals to fruition, it would require the death of another demigod, namely Godwyn, Marika's firstborn. This was the point that threw her over the edge and, in her grief she did something mad and drastic. I believe that her shattering the Elden Ring was akin to hitting a fire alarm or a panic button. She knew it would cause a great deal of chaos, which would be the perfect environment for her secret army of Tarnished to thrive in and help get rid of Radagon and the Greater Wills. However the Greater Wills, I believe, also had a trick up it's sleeve and intended on making use of the Tarnished. By using the erdtree to seal of Marika's "Throne Room", it encouraged the Tarnished to gather the shards of the Elden Ring together, but stops you from entering. That way, once the Tarnished is gone, the Elden Ring can be repaired and everything can go back to the way it was before the Shattering, which the Greater Wills would love. Meanwhile, from her prison, Marika uses her power over Grace and the Guidance of Grace to usher you towards the ultimate goal of breaking through that seal (which is why the golden light continues to guide you towards the giants flame, even though that would be committing a cardinal sin, which is something the Greater Wills would never allow) Anyway, all of this is nothing more than speculation and educated guesswork on my part, so take it with a heavy handful of salt. TLDR: Marika is playing 5d chess against the Greater Wills
@apeture_explorer48102 жыл бұрын
Also it seems that Marika was imprisoned possibly with the aid of maliketh the black blade, her shadow. The greater will probably employed him to damage and subdue her which explains what looks like a piece of the death rune stuck into her as well as maliketh's own mention of his "sin" while masquerading as guranq.
@drewingconclusions18392 жыл бұрын
Marika is absolutely playing 5d chess against the Greater Will, and I would argue that it goes one step deeper. I think that Marika split herself into the Radagon personality, a loyal champion of the Golden Order, knowing that the Greater Will would eventually see him as an ally and force him to become the new Elden Lord to keep her in check. She rigged the system so that her watchdog was actually herself, that way she could have continued access to the power of the Elden Ring through Radagon even if the Greater Will cut her off from its power. But then Ranni killed Godwyn and Marika knew she was out of time. Whatever she needed that fragment of the Rune of Death for, it was too late. Marika entered the Erdtree as Radagon and smashed the Elden ring, imprisoning herself but crippling the Greater Will's influence. Then she did her best to help and guide the tarnished towards burning the Erdtree.
@SonGokuSSj232 жыл бұрын
I love this theory, and it makes sense that Marika who was granted godhood by the greater will has a part of her (Radagon) that interrupts her scheming to escape its control, much like some internal conflict one would have. it paints Marika in a more “human” light, she knew she had to release the rune of death, but could not handle her son dying. Ranni who in a sense desired not only to see herself but her mother free, executed the plan that would lead to the shattering and consequently potential freedom from the Greater Will.
@sajro942 жыл бұрын
This fight against the greater will would also help me understand why she cursed Hewg to forge a godslaying weapon.
@shadowboy01262 жыл бұрын
@@apeture_explorer4810 this makes sense as if an empyrean works against the two fingers and the golden order their shadow turns on them. Blaidd loses his mind when he figures out what Ranni is actually trying to do. Iji has to put him in Evergaol because of it and he invades you down in Ainsel River when youre carrying Mini Ranni. If you let him out of Evergaol you find him outside Ranni’s tower, hostile and mad.
@chocobo_34142 жыл бұрын
I'm still a firm believer that everything that happened was a plan to be able to kill that one bear in Dragonbarrow Cave
@daurham2 жыл бұрын
Alas, the beast still persists
@jonathanwiatt34612 жыл бұрын
You should win an Oscar for this comment
@kfrausto2 жыл бұрын
😂
@gameshunter60012 жыл бұрын
I spent hours trying to kill it, in the end I stealth past it left it alive, its so dam different from the other bears, strong and have more vigor I think
@charlotteleung23082 жыл бұрын
I used nightmaiden's mist to kill him. I swear he had at least 13k hp
@andrewichigo2 жыл бұрын
I've always interpreted Radagon as having been split from Marika by the Greater Will for the purpose of fighting the wars Godfrey no longer could. He got his red hair as a curse from the Giants (who all have red hair) for his almost genocide of their race. I believe there are hints that he hates his hair colour in fact. Then once called upon by White Queen, she and the Red King Radagon united (together forming the Rebis, or perfect alchemical being) thus he regressed and returned. He had "perfect" children born of the union of the same being. I'm not sure if them being inbred caused the curses or something else cursed them as there are items that lead to think someone expressly cursed them. Either way, Radagon is fairly tragic in that he came into this world as a half of someone else, was sent to war and fell in love, only to have to abandon his love and children, to bear cursed children and then be forced to imprisonment in his other half after she decided to go rogue and destroy the Elden Ring.
@JetBalrog2 жыл бұрын
The way the rot itself works makes me think it was the influence of another Outer God. Or... with all the Two Fingers entities dying off...? Maybe something's wrong with the Greater Will itself, and Malenia and Miquella were sortof a... symptom of that?
@cameronstone44952 жыл бұрын
@@JetBalrog The rot is definitely from another outer god, the Scorpion's Stinger description says it glistens from rot and was made from a relic of a sealed outer god.
@Mastobog2 жыл бұрын
I also think that the Greater Will made a mistake in it's plans when it did this. By splitting off a piece of Marika that embodied loyalty to the order to make the "perfect" Elden Lord it left Marika herself without those traits, which is what led to her eventual betrayal of the Greater Will's purpose.
@DistSeetSystSkilLink2 жыл бұрын
I think empyreans are inherent not chosen. Mohg wanted to make miquella a god using the mother of blood or w/e her name is. Doesn't matter if the greater will chose him or not. I think a curse is inherent then. Miquella growth would make him a god, malenias third blossom of rot. I'm curious what rannis life was like
@panic_diver2 жыл бұрын
I have a question guys, when the factions like Carions, Giants, Nox, Dragons etc rejected the Golden Order, were they still influenced by the logic of the golden order where their souls would return to the erdtree as destined death was removed despite them being opposed to the golden order? Werent they influenced by their own outer gods who governed the logic they followed instead of following greater will's logic? However, since all life in the lands between came from the primordial crucible of the great tree, shouldn't all life be forced to follow what the great tree (later erdtree) had set as logic? What I am thinking is, before the greater will came to the lands, the great tree gave life and there was proper death and there was also free will. The great tree didn't control anything other than birthing life and the basic logic of the lands. Great tree was not an outer god but a very powerful primordial life giving force that various outer gods wanted to influence. The fate of the lives in the lands between was then influenced by different outer gods depending upon the factions. The fate of the Carions and Nox was influenced by the moon and the stars. Giants and Dragons had their own lords and outer gods. But one of the outer gods instead of just influencing the living beings, infected the life giving great tree itself to not only control the fates but also to change the logic of the world itself. So when the great tree got infected by the parasite from the greater will and became erdtree it not only changed the logic of the land where there was no destined death (thanks to Marika) but also controlled the fates of all that followed the golden order. The ones who rejected the new order had no choice but to submit to the new logic where there was no death as it came from the life giving erdtree but they refused to let their fates be controlled by the golden order. As a result there were wars and the Nox were banished, Dragons outer god left them and they were defeated. Giant's fell lord was defeated by marika but what happened to their outer god? Maybe he too left. There was a truce between the Carions and the golden order where they both followed the logic of the erdtree with no destined death like every other living being in the lands between but their fates were governed by different outer gods, moon and stars for the carions and greater will for those who followed the golden order (until Radahn stopped the movement of the stars with his gravity magic). Is this something Greater will despised where the Carions were not mind controlled by it and their outer god still had influence? Maybe Rennala going mad and the civil war in Liurnia had something to do with Radagon and Greater will's sinister plan to destroy them from the inside.
@davidvazquez52009 ай бұрын
Amazing video. Your work never fails to amaze me. Everything flows nicely, the sources at the bottom are a great touch, and the choice of visuals are always good. I'm not sure if the release of the mind map will be delayed due to the DLC releasing soon, but I'd love to be able to access it in the future for sure
@NoobyNoon2 жыл бұрын
I love that after watching this video, I realized that the opening cutscene of the game with the hammer shattering images, the person transitions between Marika and Radagon
@GoodnightMoon42 жыл бұрын
The dungeons at the end of catacombs was always so freaky to me. Dozens of bodies all merging into the strange bed of chaos looking gnarled mess of roots in the back. I knew something had to be involved there.
@KaineReiN2 жыл бұрын
Whatever it is, Rump ahead. Therefore offer pickle
@Ike_of_pyke2 жыл бұрын
I always was worried something would come out of them after killing a shade or duelist
@MrFAL61122 жыл бұрын
I love that quick switch in tone at 15:05! He'd been in completely serious lore telling mode and then broke it for a second with that!
@BaldorfBreakdowns2 жыл бұрын
It's probably true though, those lobsters are no joke.
@mrbearjangles86002 жыл бұрын
lobstner
@anakinmiller82152 жыл бұрын
I too believe that those lobsters could and would wreck both factions
@SRQBID2 жыл бұрын
I've beat Malenia... I run away from the lobsters.
@xxcrazy_leggzxxplays9580 Жыл бұрын
Interesting how both the Law of Causality and the Law of Regression can both be represented as rings, as well. Causality is essentially the ripple effect and Regression is everything eventually comes full circle.
@Gabriel-re6sw2 жыл бұрын
if we get a dlc, I really hope its almost like a 'Old Hunters" type dlc where we might get to see the the more powerful outer gods or even fight the greater will
@bobbob-cd9yl2 жыл бұрын
I want to see the Formless mother so bad
@soulsplayingidiot2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbob-cd9yl well she is formless.
@DarthJex2 жыл бұрын
I believe it will expand upon Miquella’s story or The Dusked Eye Queen.
@marcoleung311-v7j2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbob-cd9yl turns out the formless mother is just a giant slime blob. It's made out of liquid so Mohg can easily take and pour blood from it.
@Hannestv46072 жыл бұрын
True love = the love of God! *God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being* Philippians 2:5-8
@Sylocat2 жыл бұрын
Radagon/Marika's design seems to draw pretty heavily from the alchemical concept of the rebis, which involves separating the male and female aspects of a unisex being through putefaction and purification, then reuniting them in the magnum opus. So I think they were once one person, then they got split apart, then reunited.
@halcyon60982 жыл бұрын
Yummy factoid. Radagon is Marika
@Yomom123882 жыл бұрын
@@halcyon6098 Factoids by definition are actually incorrect things stated as facts. Radagon is, in fact, Marika. Meaning that’s not a factoid, it’s just a fact.
@TheHeptarch2 жыл бұрын
@@Yomom12388 While that is true, it is also true that "factoid" is a synonym for trivia or minor facts. This secondary definition is how OP is using the word.
@cameronstone44952 жыл бұрын
To build on that, it seems to me Radagon has some clear connection to the giants (everything about his red hair and all). One of the main stages of Alchemy's Great Work is the separation phase, where matter is burnt and its male and female parts separated. Since the giants and their god controlled the flame it can be theorized that in retaliation for her action against them they used this power to separate Marika into male and female halves (whether the were truly separate of simple a body swap situation is up in the air). Radagon seemed to be motivated by a desire to become whole again, as the symbolic Red King (representing the sun) he was instinctively attracted to Renalla, the symbolic White Queen (representing the moon). This union of opposites in alchemy is supposed to be what creates the Rebis, the perfect being, and this could been indicated by how Ranni was the only Empyrean without any sort of "curse", unlike Miquella or Melania, the product of Marika and Radagon's somewhat incestuous union.
@CopeAndSeeth2 жыл бұрын
@@Yomom12388 ur a factoid
@Voldemortbro2 жыл бұрын
I think the fact that Marika and Radagon’s children were cursed with Rot and eternal childhood shows that Marika and Radagon were most likely one, hence producing faulty children
@jas68532 жыл бұрын
Marika also came from one god but she doesn’t tween to have any issues, that we know of anyway
@alejandrobrenes61012 жыл бұрын
Or maybe they were cousins
@Athai_2 жыл бұрын
Selfcest??
@caliginousmoira85652 жыл бұрын
they were the only twins right?
@Voldemortbro2 жыл бұрын
@@caliginousmoira8565 I believe so but may be wrong
@eodsgn6 ай бұрын
Obsessed with this videos! You have an incredible voice for this type of content a great pace for it too. 10/10 work
@redbone95532 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this, but it's really interesting how most of the debuff in the game is associated with Outer Gods. Scarlet Rot -> God of Scarlet Rot Madness -> Frenzied Flame Bleed -> Formless Mother Frost -> The Moon Death-Blighted -> Greater Will The only two debuffs not directly associated with any debuff is poison and sleep, though with DLC, who knows.
@GreatRaijin2 жыл бұрын
Sleep is associated with St trina
@micheledushi6982 жыл бұрын
And what about craziness??
@LandBoundFish2 жыл бұрын
St Trina is associated with sleep. And Miquella is saint Trina
@LandBoundFish2 жыл бұрын
@@micheledushi698 that’s… madness..
@thicc.headass2 жыл бұрын
@@LandBoundFish how did u figure this out? That Miquella is Trina?
@maestro_dana2 жыл бұрын
To back up the fact of Radagon and Marika as one being, I just read the "Remembrance of the Rot Goddess": "Miquella and Malenia are both the children of a single god. As such, they are both Empyreans, but suffered afflictions from birth. One was afflicted with eternal childhood, and the other harbored rot within." So they're both the offspring of a single god, either by some sort of parthenogenesis or selfcest, both of which would be highly likely to produce some form of birth defects, as we see is the case here.
@0zb4lack2 жыл бұрын
But at the same time it could imply that Radagon is not Marika if you read "children of a single God" as in implying that Marika was the only one of the progenitors that was a god. Like Loki in the Nordic mythology, he is the son of a god and a giant. Therefore child of a single god. I don't know if I explained myself right.
@alexyuly12 жыл бұрын
Maybe, when "Radagon" become "Marika", "Children of Radagon and Marika" become "Children of Marika and Marika", that is, children of a single god.
@sawyercotherman45412 жыл бұрын
I think it is strange that both Radagon and Marika have separate back stories; she's of a race outside the lands between, and Radagon is implied to be a descendant of giants (also Radahn's size could be explained that way). I don't think they were always the same and it lends toward the plot for a big reason: there is a theme that, by denying the principle of regression, causality is also denied (causality is the greater will dictating the outcome of events, kind of different than causality as we know). This is explained in detail with Ranni's questline and ending. So conversely, I think the golden order was trying to expand its influence by merging Marika with a giant, Radagon, extending the greater will's influence to its conquered foe, and the same was done when Radagon married Rennala and begot children. It was a way of expanding the Greater Will's influence to other areas with great power: the Giants' Forge and Astrology.
@Ribsi2 жыл бұрын
@@0zb4lack If you perform a certain spell in Leyndell, I think it was "Law of Causality", before the Radagon statue it changes into a statue of Marika and a message before it tells you "Radagon is Marika". I don't think it can get any more obvious than this. Also the fact that in the final boss cutscene Marika literally transforms into Radagon. They are the same being.
@0zb4lack2 жыл бұрын
@@Ribsi that's a possibility, I'm not not saying my word it's the one and only truth. But it could refer to after they merged together.
@losmidos8756 Жыл бұрын
Damn, somehow the thought of Rennala sitting on a giant Lobster leading her army seems just so perfect and hilarious
@2o2eli199 ай бұрын
very well formatted video man this was great helped me understand so much and it wasnt overwhelming it was very simple if your already into the game
@vowgallant40492 жыл бұрын
For me, Melina is the biggest mystery. I really hope the DLC gives more info on her and the Gloam Eyed Queen.
@phoenixx9132 жыл бұрын
What makes her more interesting is her transformation at the end of the game if you choose to become the lord of frenzy her hair turns dark grey/black and her good eye turns grey and her eye that's always closed opens revealing a blue eye which I'm kinda curious what her transformation is all about.
@christopherh48912 жыл бұрын
My theory is, what if she is also queen Merika a 3rd part of the original god when they split.
@nimazsheik51522 жыл бұрын
@@christopherh4891 I hope this isn't it. It just seems lazy making different parts of the original god. Elden Ring has a strong theme on 'twins' so 2 parts - Radagon and Marika are more than enough.
@dennismarquez73542 жыл бұрын
@@nimazsheik5152 i agree with this. My theory is that she is Ranni or a part of her. I was talking with a friend a few weeks ago about who sent the Black Knives to kill Warmaster Iji. You find his body and the body of several black knives around him. So here is my theory: When Godfrey lost the guidence of the Grace, and with it his connection to the Golden Order, The Two Fingers forced Malika to either kill him or exile him. We know that at some point Malika stopped trusting the Golden Order and the Greater Will, which this could very well be the catalyst. For the first time Malika and the greater order were at odds with each other. With Godfrey gone and the Elden Lord position open, the Two Fingers turned to Radagon, another one of the Golden Order follower. They forced him (either through Faith or mental control) to abandon Renala, the woman he loved, and to marry Malika in an effort to control her. When that even failed they then forced the two of them to merge, (this is even more valid if they actually have a way to control Radagon.) My theory is, when the Two Fingers realized that Malika was conspiring against them, they started raising the Empyrians with the goal of succeeding Malika as the new vessel of the Elden Ring. One who would actually follow the commands of the Greater Will. Now Ranni however, was raised as Carian Royalty. She studied the power of the stars (or cosmo). She wanted nothing to do with the Golden Order. So she went to Malika. But Malika couldn't openly help her, after all, to do so would directly go against the golden order. So she allowed Ranni to use the Black Knives to steal a fragment of the Rune of Death (We know that the black Knives were loyal to Malika or at the very least very close to her), which would allow Ranni to create the dagger that would allow her to rid of her Empyrian flesh through a magic ritual. When she does this, her soul is split. Which is why she needs to "slumber" as she puts it. She only has half a soul. Her other half is Melina. However, when the Two Fingers realized this (probably through Radagon), they are the ones who ordered the assasenation of Godwyn the Golden, as a message/threat to Malika "Stop resisting us. Stop meddling with our plan or we will start killing your children." However, this backfired on them. When Malika realized what had happened, she went mad with grief and shattered the Elden Ring. We know that Radagon tried to repair it (and failed), which could be further ilustrate that the 2 of them are different people merged in one body and that the Greater Will has a way to control Radagon. With the Elden Ring shattered the Two Fingers had no choice but to incarcerate Malika in the Erdtree and pin the death of Godwyn on Ranni with the goal of unifying the Empyrians against the traitor. This theory then shifts the blame of the Black Knives assassin to Malika/Radagon. This is further seen to by the fact that Seluvis tried to make Ranni his doll. If you notice, Seluvis wears the mask with the symbol of Radagon. The Two Fingers know that in order for the "Ranni Ending" to occur, the Tarnished must defeat the Elden Beast. This would destroy the Golden Order in the Lands Between. So when Seluvis attempt failed, the Two Fingers once again forced Radagon to sent the Black Knives after his daughter, using Malika's body, but by that time it was too late. Ranni was already beyond their reach. This theory of course, depends completely in the Loyalty of the Black Knives to Malika. Otherwise her shattering the Elden Ring makes no sense. But if you assume that, that is indeed the case, then it would explain everything. Malika's grief. The rage that made her destroy the Elden Ring. The fact that Radagon abandoned Renala despite being in love with her, etc.
@samwarren60082 жыл бұрын
@@dennismarquez7354 Great theory, but it is MARIKA, MARIKA. Not Malika.
@jedediahhopkins60512 жыл бұрын
Tortoise being forever “dog” and being simply excepted by the community is still my favorite piece of lore from Elden Ring
@3rr0r4o402 жыл бұрын
What tortoise? That's a dog
@varsoonhks32112 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yeah try fingers but hole ahahaha fort night lol try rolling Liar ahead but praise the message!!
@chillax3192 жыл бұрын
@@varsoonhks3211 And let's not forget about the classic of you got no right you got no right.
@LexIconLS2 жыл бұрын
I love just how quickly it happened more than anything haha. Just like, a matter of days and we've all agreed to not kill them and to call them Dog.
@DnVFMVs2 жыл бұрын
" is this a dog? "
@jamesratcliffe15032 жыл бұрын
I like how the elden beast is also represented in the beginning as a star , and he also has galaxy like attacks, kinda like other massive beasts like Astel who also seemingly come from the stars.
@Willow45262 жыл бұрын
from what I've read it's only through a star beast or Empyrean that the outer gods can even greatly influence the lands between, a star beast seems to be the first thing they require to fall to the lands to spread their influence.
@kaptinskorge2 жыл бұрын
Something I found really curious was that the Elden Beast and Astel have the same style of attack - a swing that leaves a lot of colored dust behind, which explodes after a short time. The VFX are almost if not exactly the same, and the way the attack works is identical. So even more evidence that the two are more alike than meets the eye.
@Willow45262 жыл бұрын
@@kaptinskorge Astel appears to be a star beast of a different outer god, so them being similar is completely understandable.
@Willow45262 жыл бұрын
@@sharpfang unfortunately no, there's nothing directly stating it from what I've read, but from the information around Astel and the other similar star creatures, there would either have to be multiple random other creators not connected to outer gods that live in the stars /& or void that can fall to the earth or the multitude of these creatures are all attempts at creating a star beast. If you go to the fextralife wiki and type "void" into the search bar you should see a whole bunch of stuff connected to Astel and the void which is where these things come from, the "fallingstar beast" boss enemies also seem to be connected.
@Willow45262 жыл бұрын
@@sharpfang interesting way of looking at them, it actually helps support this idea I had whilst looking up things to reply to you, that maby if they are not connect to any god, that the power they use of gravity, is potentially the most basic and natural form of magic there is in the universe and world, hence why some of them use it. Plus would explain why Radahn would end up learning it not only to use against the stars but would use it despite being extremely devoted to the golden order, as I'd assume if gravity magic was a power of a outer god, he wouldn't use it even if it helped him achieve his goals.
@SaminGaming0811 ай бұрын
It’s almost always the lobsters… but then there are the dogs. And not the Caelid huge ones, but the small ones. I have a colossal sword build at lvl 150. And those GODDAMN dogs always dodge my sword and kill me
@specialagentdustyponcho10652 жыл бұрын
The use of "become" in saying that Radagon is "yet to become marika", may be in the sense of something being unbecoming. Marika may be saying that Radagon is yet to be fit to be a part of her once more, having been a separate distinct entity from her which has diverged too far from Marika, despite originating from her.
@philiphart41462 жыл бұрын
I think the exact Japanese used would be useful here- is it closer to 似合う or 成る?
@loopygordo2 жыл бұрын
I just looked up divine twins and this is a block that seems to run in line with what radagon and marikas situation could be. "Divine twins in twin mythology are identical to either one or both place of a god. The Feri gods are not separated entities but are unified into one center. These divine twins can function alone in one body, either functioning as a male or as male and female as they desire. Divine twins represent a polarity in the world. This polarity may be great or small and at times can be opposition. Twins are often seen to be rivals or adversaries."
@MonoFlax2 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious about the original japanese in this instance...
@calmdownbruh85182 жыл бұрын
I had always thought that was her way of pitying and mocking Radagon. She calls him a "leal hound". Basically called him a loyal dog and mocks him by saying that he'll never truly become her. As she is still the god of the Golden Order and vessel of the Elden Ring. Seemingly mocking his efforts and pitying his blind loyalty towards the Golden Order and greater will, when in the end he'll never be more than her.
@shadearca2 жыл бұрын
@@calmdownbruh8518 Here is your answer: The mimic veil description mentions it is also known as “marika’s mischief”. Radagon is like a mimic, a being created from Marika. Mimic summon description tells us that mimics were attempts to make a “lord”. An item also mentions giants cursing Marika with red hair when she defeated the giant lord. But guess what? It was the mimic that got cursed, Radagon. This also explains why she broke the elden ring but radagon tried to repair it as mimic’s have a will of their own(mimic ashes description)
@ToTeMVG2 жыл бұрын
one of my interpretations from reading one of the lore timelines that have been put on reddit, it mentions the fire giant god cursing Marika during her slaughter of them, and Radagon hates his red hair being a lot like the giants, its got me thinking maybe the giants curse split Marika into 2 people i mean the timeline stuff was vague so i dont know if Radagon was about before that or not but the giants themselves possess 2 faces and so it feels potentially very thematic
@t-o-b-d83142 жыл бұрын
I was wondering bout that whip description when I got it!!! Dope point dude, I could see that fo sure👏👏👀
@AzraelSoulHunter2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe their curse reflected on Radagon instead of Marika.
@qweryqwery22 жыл бұрын
I keep thinking there's a link between Radagon and Marika's war with the giants. It's a conflict Radagon is not mentioned in at all, but some of the symbolism seems too striking. Radagon's red hair, his penchant for smithing (which was seen as a divine act and seems to have been something of a ritual among the giants). My theory would be this: Marika created Radagon as an extension of herself, using perhaps the dead body, or some essence of the giants and/or their god, to be the container for the curse, much like how Maliketh was to be the one to seal Destined Death away. Related to this I can't help but feel that the Flame of Frenzy is also somehow related to the fell god of the giants. Perhaps being the curse the god cast on Marika, or perhaps being some kind of surviving essence of the god, now directionless or perhaps single-mindedly vengeful against the golden order and the erdtree. And this is why knowledge of the giants and their fire had to be sealed away, since the Flame of Frenzy was now another possible threat to the Erdtree.
@tsunamie10152 жыл бұрын
Radagon must surely be connected with the giants. It's stated that all giants have red hair and how Radagon despises his red hair. It would be such a weird detail to just randomly throw in there. From the timeline it would also fit. When the giants were defeated and the fire giant cursed to protect the flame, Godfrey was still around, meaning that Radagon wasn't Marikas husband yet, and it's only said that he fought against Rennala, a war that happened after the war with the giants. It wouldn't be too far stretched that either the giants or the god of the giants cursed in some way Marika, who is responsible for their death.
@Cobalt360Degrees2 жыл бұрын
It's also telling that one of Radagon's children, Radahn, who shares his red hair, is also well known to have grown to a massive size seemingly without any outside force.
@ArakDBlade2 жыл бұрын
You know this is the first time it occurred to me that Radagon was specifically intended to seduce Rennala and ultimately break her heart as a twisted strategy to defeat Liurnia through an alternative means. If that's actually the case...damn that's cold.
@kibuoon2 жыл бұрын
yeah i was wondering the same thing , if it truly was a strategy to win against the last standing enemy it is brutal
@juliofoolio29822 жыл бұрын
…war is brutal. Broken hearts or mass graves. Wait it’s From.. let’s have both!
@Kelduffnim2 жыл бұрын
This has GRRM written all over it
@petercottantail78502 жыл бұрын
Its the only logical reason there are two entities at all in this game honestly, the whole story of everything makes perfect sense kinda until you see they are the same being and then you think why did they do that it makes so many plot points convoluted, but having the motive of seducing and the returning to marika as a coop makes perfect sense, besides the while shattering and trying to mend unless that in itself was a plan of it's own.
@michaelchoi52472 жыл бұрын
@@petercottantail7850 could you proof read your paragraph please. Thank you.
@iantaylor233110 ай бұрын
This is fantastic. I enjoyed the game play but really scratched my head at the ending! Thanks for this
@aessitaha80282 жыл бұрын
Finally, Sir Vaati-The All Knowing has come to shed light on the lore!
@BaldorfBreakdowns2 жыл бұрын
Sir Vaati Vidya, The ALL KNOWING!!!
@ff8masterc2 жыл бұрын
Sir Gideon will remember that
@ninjack112 жыл бұрын
The loathsome lore reader!
@O-M-02 жыл бұрын
Auughh! 😩😩 Rise up, all ye viewers!
@RageGamingVideos2 жыл бұрын
FINALLY we can find out what the hell is going on. Incredible as always Vaati.
@thotslayer94932 жыл бұрын
you was funny on the rdc stream rage 🤣
@Peccbear2 жыл бұрын
And yet it’s still completely convoluted and confusing.
@GoDLordBeerus2 жыл бұрын
You could've just understood it yourself by browsing sites that talk about it like vaati does to get his theories
@kephrinegipciaco68672 жыл бұрын
Oh Josh, Cotton, Hollow my brother in arms! So rad to see you guys here as well keep up the banger work! Been watching since gen ultimate!
@Ryan-es9xg2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I said entertainment twice
@mrhalloween3592 Жыл бұрын
I really want Elden Ring lore to become a book. Just a big ass book that covers ALL the information and stories from start, when the elden beast arrival, to end when your gameplay starts.
@TmasIZgay8 ай бұрын
We might even get a show one day, George R Martin did write the lore after all right?
@shreknskrubgaming72487 ай бұрын
@@TmasIZgay that would be cool, I still don't quite understand a lot of lore points but the game felt so cinematic, some other media adaptation would be awesome
@Wooldrog7 ай бұрын
@user-bg9fw1hh5t I think there is far too much foor them to make a show a studio would have to sign a deal for like 200 episodes and they wouldn't take a gamble that big its a shame because it would be fire
@BigballsTerrence6 ай бұрын
@@Wooldrog lmao. You seriously think Elden ring lore has more to it than GOT? it isn't even close. There's far more people,places and plots in GOT, and they made a show about that.
@bean89905 ай бұрын
Dude imagine having a big ass 10 inch thick book just for Elden ring lore lmao Imagine someone seeing it and asking you about it and having to tell them it’s a book of Elden ring lore I need this to exist The book should also be bound in leather and look worn and burned to really fit the vibe
@singhbhai Жыл бұрын
This us peak gaming, everyone needs to watch and play this game at least once
@brownwindedangel2 жыл бұрын
25:41 the theory that i’ve heard that makes the most sense to me is that Radagon was made from Marika using a piece of the elden ring, specifically the criss crossing diagonal lines behind it on the cover and at his statue She made him so she could fight a war on two fronts with Radagon handling the carian family, but when Radagon fell for Rannalla and had kids that also became demigods, Marika now without a consort realized that she could use Radagon instead thus birthing Miquella and Melania. So when she shattered the Elden ring Radagon attempted to repair it by merging with Marika to hold themselves together and precent the complete collapse of order
@landsbetweendiary14762 жыл бұрын
Your first part sounds like how it is stated in the Bible how Eva was made from one of Adam's ribcage bones. The roles are reversed here, not sure if it has a correlation but I find it interesting since the Elden Ring seems to be the ribcage of their being.
@kiiturii2 жыл бұрын
that's what I thought as well
@boundary25802 жыл бұрын
But they had the statue made before the shattering. They would have had to be the same person before the events of the shattering.
@VashTheHumanStampede2 жыл бұрын
Marika Numen race Radagon Giant race
@BunnyZlayer2 жыл бұрын
Also the seal preventing access to Raya Lucaria has the same criss crossing pattern that is on Radagon's Soreseal, as well as in his statues
@MrRuner452 жыл бұрын
I believe one of the most critical characters, that break open some of the stories most vital secrets, is the Goldmask. Even though Corhyn eventually calls Goldmask a Blasphemer due to Corhyn's loyalty to the teachings of the golden order, Goldmask was on a quest to discover the true nature of order and discovered that the order, inherently, was full of deceptions and secrets. Secrets that make the golden order seem more "Chaotic" and deceitful
@obi-wankenobi94712 жыл бұрын
Damn really? Seems about right
@MrPataka1002 жыл бұрын
Wait, I have yet to do Corhyn's questline in my 3 playthroughs so far, but if the golden order is inherently "chaotic", does that mean the Greater Will and the Lord of Chaos are at war with each other? And that the Lord of Chaos has somehow influenced the Greater Will? However slight that influence may be
@diversityhour63362 жыл бұрын
I think it's more likely the absence of "Chaos" wich causes to seem deceitful. The gods know only power and they are the embodiment of the rules of the universe, true power, yet, still, they too are not in any way perfect, following the greater will will only lead to shattering.
@thegodhimself55542 жыл бұрын
Literally elden budda
@briankay31462 жыл бұрын
@@diversityhour6336 The golden order is a kind of order because before everything was melded in teh crucible. Like dark souls 1, the change of creating order created disparity, you will have those most elevated by grace and those spurned by grace. In short, they created order but they also created unfairness and probably a lot of suffering.
@Big_Spine2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for him to cover the outer gods more, really curious about his take on the Frenzied Flame
@tinminator89052 жыл бұрын
The Frenzied Flame is never stated to be an Outer God. It is also never suggested to be one actually. It is obviously immensly powerful but I believe it is the betrayed world's desire to cleanse and go back to when all life was one.
@clockworkcrew80122 жыл бұрын
@Charles Hastings I'm arriving at somewhat the same conclusion. It would make sense why the frenzied flame is so close to the base of the Erdtree and almost like it is an aspect of the primordial essence that "infected" the order, a rememberance of the power that governed the world before the Greater Will. maybe that is why the three fingers were "cut" off, to stop it from spreading. It is still part of the order though as it represents the law of regression in its purest form, to get rid of the order (which metaphysically means the seperations of the whole into distinct parts), let chaos take hold, and for the world to converge into what it once was.
@FreedomAndPeaceOnly2 жыл бұрын
The outer gods are, pun intended, so far outside of the Lands Between, it will be hard to truly get our *_fingers_* on something firm. Lord Vaati was very interested ( like me ) in what might have been the structure that was responsible for all the big ruin shards that we can find all over the lands. The flying temple that was once in the sky. I wonder if it was part of Farum Azula for example. But I doubt it. Farum Azula is littered with Beast-folk and Dragons. But around the ruins we find those gigantic Golems very often. And no regular inhabitants of Farum Azula seem interested in building those constructs. Were the Golems invaders? Two of them guard the Elevator of the Altus Plateau after all. The one that leads to Liurnia. Are they obeying the will of Margit? Or Queen Marika? They seem to help the forces favoured by the Grace of Gold. So are they the troops of Marika? Did she used them to invade Farum Azula? But this would not match her style. She has more elegant, golden shining means in general. The Golems remain a great mystery still. We find them all over the lands between. And often nearby a Demigods residence, if not around a ruin. As if they might have been part of their troops. Coincidence? Ah~ I fear we might never get a true answer to all of this. I'm such a sucker for lost high-culture stuff and discovering the post-apocalyptic remains of their great civilization.
@nightrain11212 жыл бұрын
@@tinminator8905 stated? No. suggested? Absolutely, the fingerprint shield describes the cathedral of the forsaken area as a “tomb of an ancient God”, and , as you know, that’s where you find the three fingers. The merchant attire you also find there tells us that they summoned the flame of frenzy. I believe that it is most definitely a God of some kind, the question is wether it’s an outer God or not, the fact that it was summoned could suggest it’s an outer God, but I don’t believe it is. We know it’s an ancient God, meaning it’s very old, it’s also considered blasphemous, and we definitely know it’s a threat to the erdtree, but many things were shunned upon and considered blasphemous after the arrival and establishment of the golden order, the flame of frenzy included, we also know of the natural order that existed before the erdtree, there was a tree before it. The most interesting thing is where we find the fingers, at the very roots of the tree, we can also assume that all life was ‘one’ in a way, well, the flame frenzy seems to kind of work that way, making all kinds of creatures live as one, as we see both rats and humans afflicted by it. It’s by belief that the flame of frenzy was the natural order (or at least a part of it) before the golden order. Just speculation of course, and I could’ve missed something. Edit: I also want to mention what happens to your eyes when you let the fingers hold you, this wouldn’t be a big deal , but we know that grace also affects your eyes, and when you lose your grace, your eyes are dimmed. The incantation, ‘The flame of frenzy’ explicitly says, “only effective against tarnished” and to be tarnished is to be absent of grace, I reckon Grace is a way to shield you from the influence of the fingers, and was a further measure to protect the golden order. Edit no2: Plasidusax, another ancient being, is said to be waiting for the return of his god, his area is the only place where you can use the needle to cure yourself of the flame. Just another interesting thought.
@felipdn33292 жыл бұрын
The Frenzied Flame is probably a tool of another Outer God. Perhaps less powerful than the one who sent the Erdtree, as the frenzied flame is hidden deep enough to escape the roots of the Erdtree and only has Shabriri as its envoy. Or it comes from the Great Tree and had something to do with its lifeforce. A desperate attempt to "blend life together" again? Who knows. It was barely expanded upon and had a lot of cut content involving the Frenzied Flame and the Merchants. All the other endings are easily attained while you only get vague tips from Shabriri, Hyetta (if you somehow managed to do her quest blindly) and the Fingerprint armor set. And also the secret passage at Mohg's sewer which is frankly impossible to guess by yourself.
@Staylecrate9 ай бұрын
I liked this series I stumbled on. The more I listen, the more I get pulled in. His voice, stories, and even the sponsors are interesting. Really love it.
@bran36622 жыл бұрын
You can really see the influence George had with helping the story along. He has a lot of experience with simplifying crazy family dramatics and old times/fantasy lore. Great video, too btw. also noticed malikeths blades hand guards broken and snapped off, a part of the death rune that Ranni stole. lots of really cool visual details there to take from. starting new game 5 today!.
@socunt2 жыл бұрын
good luck I hope u enjoy again
@primemachine1462 жыл бұрын
Also that Marika was numen, which is extremely similar to the numenorean from lord of the rings which George is a huge fan of
@bran36622 жыл бұрын
@@primemachine146 that's a great point. the most noble of men!. would have been cool to see a reference to nùmenor next to the frenzied flame town.
@FordDisk2 жыл бұрын
There also lots of themes in his books of new ideas, religions, and/or peoples replacing older pre-existing ones.
@mq5ey Жыл бұрын
@@primemachine146 frenzied flame is the eye of Sauron and there is a character named morgot to name a few
@Thelazygamer01850 Жыл бұрын
I really like how this game tells you that these bosses are capable of leveling cities and are technically Gods. Then you kill them on your first try while you die multiple times because of a crab. I really love this game💀
@kill3rbyysight Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 r u being disrespectful to de game?
@SillyRiz Жыл бұрын
YOU KILLED THEM ON YOUR FIRST TRY????? you're a god
@sasha9796 Жыл бұрын
a bit late to that, but then the last reply was also today. there is this wyrm you find near the entrance to the catacombs in consecrated snowfield and along the path to the cave there are land octopi. well, i found the entrance, marked the site of grace and decided that i'll go back to this matter later, so i mounted torrent and rode back. the wyrm followed, encountering several octopi on the way. the octopi won.
@Ernesto.y2k Жыл бұрын
Beats literal god Elden Beast in two tries but non stop gets clapped by a RuneBear
@Thelazygamer01850 Жыл бұрын
@@SillyRiz Definitely Not all of them. Although I one tried Margit and Godrick maybe because I got over leveled due to farming so that I could get back at that spear guy near the gate Lol. Malenia had me 5 tries, and Maliketh almost 7.
@JadedJackalope2 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely in the "Marika and Radagon were always the same person" camp. I think it's the only way "all the demigods were descended from Marika" makes sense. It could be a situation like D where originally they had two bodies and two minds, but one soul?
@jeagerjeager91712 жыл бұрын
I think what happened was marika sent radagon but they had been apart for so long radagon developed a will of his own
@blueshadowdx2 жыл бұрын
This also helps to explain why Ranni is an Empyrean while Radahn and Rykard are not. Something Vaati didn't touch on was another requirement for being an Empyrean is being born from a single god, something both Miquella and Malenia are. Radagon could've claimed Rennala was Ranni's mother when in reality he birth her himself (themself, themselves, itself? It's confusing knowing who to refer to Marika and Radagon)
@esmedientes2 жыл бұрын
For some reason i never made the connection to D, but you bringing it up only adds more credibility to the theory that Marika and Radagon were always the same. To me, while the theory made sense, it just seemed like a kind of random and contrived idea, but with D and Darian basically being another example of this sort of thing happening in the Lands Between it feels less out of place and I'm more willing to subscribe to the idea.
@mjsfalcon9862 жыл бұрын
Two bodies, two personalities, yet a split soul.
@iusethisnameformygoogleacc10132 жыл бұрын
@@blueshadowdx It's something that Vaati didn't touch on because it's obviously a localization error. It's been incredibly hard to take any lore discussion seriously when so much of it uses that one obviously badly translated, awkward sentence as the foundation of something that important, and if Vaati *did* mention it, it would be like his Ancient Dark Souls videos that take "lost the annals of history" to mean that The Nameless King lost a book.
@badtiming2208Ай бұрын
15:50 That cut is so misleading at first. I thought Turtle Pope was lead an army XD
@dandandan012 жыл бұрын
I can't believe this video was 30 minutes long. It flew by in 5 minutes - this was incredible. Thank you
@Nikeroxmysox2 жыл бұрын
30 of em to be exact
@CanisRex012 жыл бұрын
damn time dilation
@vanquish50232 жыл бұрын
As another Lord once said: "I've been looking forward to this."
@tiberious_jefferson2 жыл бұрын
Dooku?
@lightpoint44262 жыл бұрын
Vaati's powers have doubled since he last posted, Count!
@thatguyincleveland2 жыл бұрын
That bit with the Lobsters was perfect and hilarious. Also Patches is the ultimate God of this world. No question about it lol 😂
@iPlayDotaReligiously2 жыл бұрын
indeed, higher power of FromSoft Multiverses!
@PabloEsc666 Жыл бұрын
I finished the game for a second time today and I'm looking forward to Shadow of the Erdtree expansion. Thanks to you I now get some sense about the lore.
@slewiscurious Жыл бұрын
Just started Elden Ring two weeks ago. Totally obsessed. What a beautiful game. The world building, the nightmare fuel characters, the gameplay being unforgiving. So much fun. I try not to spoil too much because its so much fun to round a corner and say WTF. Your channel is amazing. Very smoothing voice and so well curated.
@Shian06 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Souls community!
@adamantsteel634 Жыл бұрын
Yeahhh, I started 4 days ago and I’m already level 104. This game is so much fun
@natelaw2731 Жыл бұрын
@@adamantsteel634 me too. great game
@Sjors98__8 ай бұрын
Did you finished it and which starting class did you end up with?
@raidermaxx23246 ай бұрын
have you played DArk Souls
@chinchillagod13562 жыл бұрын
15:07…it was entirely because of those damn lobsters…Each alone could become the Elden Lord if they had the mind to do so and there wouldn’t be a damn thing anyone could do to stop them…
@LiamGers-cx1kn2 жыл бұрын
With my track record, I doubt I’d even GET TO the lobsters.
@h.n.z5252 жыл бұрын
This is what it's like to be the ultimate of souls lore, keep going lore master
@mannyR82 жыл бұрын
He's a plagiarist dude, and he contradicts himself often in his videos. Do some research.
@eml616662 жыл бұрын
@@mannyR8 ok
@h.n.z5252 жыл бұрын
@@mannyR8 thats what happens in lore sometimes, new info release or theories are disproven, are you apart of any fanbase with any bit of hidden story so you can make your own answers or try to solve and create a conclusion. Also the plagiarism is more akin to info mismanagement and can be fixed or avoided if he takes care. Plus this was a comment on him being the most recognized souls series lore person, not that he is actually the best. I like plenty of other people over him, he’s just frequent and focused on this franchise
@theelderscrolls902 жыл бұрын
@@h.n.z525 who are the ones better than him?
@h.n.z5252 жыл бұрын
@@theelderscrolls90 personal preference really, 2 i like are brother’s code and tiptoetank (all purpose game lore), more specifically mylein games who covers destiny basically daily
@GoodbyeMrX2 ай бұрын
This is so cool. Thanks for getting into the lore and sharing it with us Tarnished. The devs should show more lore in the game. It feels like they written a huge story, but show only a fraction of it in the game. This makes me love the game even more! I just finished it like 2 months ago. I always wondered why at the end of a dungeon where those roots and corpses trying to climb it. And tons of other things lol. And I love Melina's voice. You also have a very calming voice that is perfect for telling Elden Ring lore :)
@carbon-14862 жыл бұрын
15:00 that really caught me off guard. I love when Vaati temporarily becomes a comedian. Laughed way harder than I care to admit
@spaniel56572 жыл бұрын
Holy shit it got me good
@DarknessReborn502 жыл бұрын
I had to pause the video cause I was laughing too hard to pay attention xD
@WhitneyHaverstock2 жыл бұрын
Oh my Good LORD! 😳 It's hard to picture but... yeah... I bet Vatti would be good at all KINDS of stuff! 🤯 With a voice of pure chocolate velvet fancy British like that.. Jeez. Sky's the limit. 🤔 Definitely I'd pigeonhole him into sleepytime asmr stuff where he reads ye olde books. Not that his voice is sophoristic or overly maudlin, more 'soothing.' 😌
@sustoast2 жыл бұрын
Imao was amazing, F those lobsters. I fight them as little as possible lol
@Ronirvan2 жыл бұрын
Marika is a representation of the alchemical substance known as Rebis. The sun and moon correspond to the male and female halves, just as the Red King and White Queen are similarly associated
@daikansanchez76742 жыл бұрын
Then that would make Marika the Albedo and Radagon the Rubedo.
@NathanCassidy7212 жыл бұрын
I think we know the real reason why the Shattering happened: Lobsters, dogs and crows.
@tajvir2 жыл бұрын
literally
@slushisimcambi25212 жыл бұрын
We need a crocodile hunter to conquer the wildlife in the lands between because shit be unacceptable.
@cloud.wizard2 жыл бұрын
someone needs to make a crocodile dundee character build 😄
@mickeyd89662 жыл бұрын
I was shook whenever a literal lobster rose from the ground the murder me.
@HenryRex72 жыл бұрын
FInally someone said it. Something wrong in this world. The lobsters, dogs, and crows are evolving. Humans and Demi Gods about to go the way of the Dino's
@Chanelito1488 Жыл бұрын
This video was amazing! Thank you for explaining the lore! Also, the bit with the lobsters was hilariously unexpected.
@akshatkumar79382 жыл бұрын
"Thourt Yet to become me" makes sense for Radagon always being Marika because Radagon didn't know he was Marika until after he came back to her. He's like a self aware part of her but ultimately is powerless because she's the whole and he's a part.
@azrieldalusong50422 жыл бұрын
I guess that's why he tried to fix the Elden Ring. He had enough of Marika's bs
@akshatkumar79382 жыл бұрын
@@azrieldalusong5042 He has his own Motivations yes, but he couldn't coz he can't overcome Marika. He is loyal to the Gold Order whereas Marika is beyond that blind belief.
@bluetaffy27852 жыл бұрын
Or a Jekyll and Hyde thing. As one grows stronger the other grows weaker. As he becomes more dominant she becomes weaker.
@cavanlavance65732 жыл бұрын
And even this is interpretation, because there are so many questions here, like was Radagon created as a separate being that was later combined with her or was he always an alternative form for Marika. and if that is true, is there a possibility that this ability or trait is shared by some of her kin?
@akshatkumar79382 жыл бұрын
@@cavanlavance6573 I think what we're saying is he is an alternate Marika who was sent to conquer Liurnia but ended up marrying Rennala because he is his own person despite being Marika's spawn. And Marika was fine with this as she was busy with defeating the giants with Godfrey. Until she needed him to come back.
@mmp64son2 жыл бұрын
The time has finally come for everyone to understand what the hell happened in Elden Ring, thanks Vaati!
@ekroizm2 жыл бұрын
Honestly probably the only souls game were plot was actually told. If you dont skip shit.
@GoDLordBeerus2 жыл бұрын
Finally, now we can hear him speak about all the lore theories he saw to make this video from
@alvarofs1312 жыл бұрын
The lore is actually much simpler than Dark Souls'
@why82982 жыл бұрын
@@alvarofs131 it also just started and isn’t nearly as fleshed out.
@J-manli2 жыл бұрын
@@ekroizm It was a give and take. Yes the story and lore are told more directly compared to previous games. But the open world made things a lots more difficult to find stuff haha.
@QuiteSincere2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a coincidence that when Radagon met and fell in love with Rennala, head of an Academy of Astrologians, someone who almost certainly knows about the malformed stars being sent to destroy entire civilizations by the Greater Will, suddenly Marika realised maybe the "Golden Star" that conquered the lands isn't actually a benevolent host but a malevolent parasite.
@drtrollaux2 жыл бұрын
I love this interpretation! I believe that while Marika wasn't commanding him Radagon could act on his own, which is why he came to have such an opposing philosophy to her. But I love the idea that he'd have that sort of mental influence or connection with her still, maybe making her realize what you said.
@carlfromaccounting11122 жыл бұрын
@@drtrollaux Personally I belive that Marika and Radagon are just like D and his brother, siblings conjoined not in body but in soul.
@JoshBran_D_On2 жыл бұрын
@@carlfromaccounting1112 they are by the end one body though seeing as Marika turns into Radagon when you fight him
@QuiteSincere2 жыл бұрын
@@ShinGarugamesh I mean, we know a Malformed Star was sent to the Eternal City to curse them with an endless, fake night, right after they made the Fingerslayer Blade and pissed off the Greater Will. Rememberence of The Naturalborn: "A malformed star born in the flightless void far away. Once destroyed an Eternal City and took away their sky. An falling star of ill omen." Nox Swordstress Armor: "Long ago, the Nox invoked the ire of the Greater Will, and were banished deep underground. Now they live under a false night sky" Wing of Astel: "Crafted from a relic of the Naturalborn of the Void who is said to have assailed the Eternal City." Also worth noting Radahn could EXPLICITLY stop this. The moment he dies a star he was holding back falls. Weird. Sure hope the Greater Will didn't manipulate a tarnished into killing the demigods despite not intending them to become the Elden Lo-OH NOOOO WE KILLED HIM EXPLICITLY AT THE ORDERS OF THE GREATER WILL DESPITE IT NEVER INTENDING FOR US TO BECOME ELDEN LORD
@QuiteSincere2 жыл бұрын
@@ShinGarugamesh The Greater Will literally sent a Star Beast with the Elden Beast, and a Star Beast destroyed the Eternal City explicitly because they created weapons that could kill the Fingers. I don't think it's remotely unreasonable to assume that it did a thing it has done multiple times.
@goldoozaru Жыл бұрын
best nap ever, thank you!
@klaythompson6632 жыл бұрын
I just find it cool that Radagon's Red Wolf is still in the academy even after Radagon left. A great way of story telling from the masters at FromSoft.
@TheWeastBeast2 жыл бұрын
He prob just tamed one of them.
@bgill66232 жыл бұрын
yeah I doubt Artorias owned all the wolves
@Beftrast2 жыл бұрын
Rennala kept the dog after the divorce
@ambidex53832 жыл бұрын
@@deetsitmeisterjd total BS I'm sure a multi-million dollar game development was randomly placing bosses and characters without lore implications to the story. Riiiight.
@wyattleavitt83992 жыл бұрын
@@deetsitmeisterjd you can tell you got booty tickled by this game. 🤣
@felixgibeault44522 жыл бұрын
Every time radagon is represented (nitably in statues) he is represented along with a criss cross pattern. This criss cross pattern is also seen in the background of the Elden Ring. This leaves me to believe that radagon is a reincarnation of a great rune plucked from the Elden Ring, forged by Marika. And as Marika is a vessel for the Elden Ring, she has the Elden Ring inside her, it makes sense that they're able to fuse back together
@VaatiVidya2 жыл бұрын
You're right that it's a symbol associated with him - good eye. It's also seen upon his soreseal/scarseal (can't remember which), as well as upon the seal on the Erdtree when your access is blocked.
@deathcrawler86672 жыл бұрын
@@VaatiVidya Saw a theory regarding Marika and Radagon that when Marika says "Thou art yet to become me" what she's referring to could be her place as the bearer of the Elden Ring. When we see her the Elden Ring cannot be seen inside of her until Radagon takes over, meaning he holds the Ring now not Marika
@dogedude15352 жыл бұрын
@@VaatiVidya The criss cross rune is on both the scar seal and sore seal. The sore seals have the same runes as the scar seals but the markings are deeper.
@bowmaster6262 жыл бұрын
I think you’re on to something really neat here, I noticed that all three of the beings associated closely with the Elden Ring have a pattern or design choice that you can also link back the the Erdtree. The weird loops that usually seen behind Marika in statues resemble branches and the spaces inside them make the shapes of leaves. Radagon’s crisscross pattern resembles thorns. And the Elden Beast’s insides look they could be roots.
@captainfleece72592 жыл бұрын
Theres also the odd case of the Amber Egg Radagon gifted to Rennala, housing the rune of "unborn demigods". Curious what exactly that means and why Radagon had this piece of the Elden Ring that allows one to be reborn or made anew seemingly however you want. Seems to me like something he wanted to keep away from Marika.
@valor64852 жыл бұрын
I believe that Radagon was Marika from the start, as suggested by Goldmask when he was "stumped" as he could not figure out where Radagon came from. This sudden appearance of Radagon suggests that Marika had something to do with it, and not that Radagon became Marika over time.
@OneDrunkWizard2 жыл бұрын
Male and female aspects are different aspects of the same being.
@timogul2 жыл бұрын
Radagon seems to be the martial aspect of Marika, while "Marika" is the more benevolent version. Radagon is the one that goes out and conquers enemies, while Marika is more a symbol of a greater good.
@triops4635 ай бұрын
I think Radagon is the part of Marika that is loyal to the erdtree and the greater will, and that she seperated herself from it when she bagan looking into the greater will more closely
@Sthaetic-d2v5 ай бұрын
yes, i like that. and now with the dlc, where characters separate parts of themselves all the time, this seems even more likelly.