Elden Ring vs Tears of the Kingdom

[@mhswoocer]

I messed up with the fuse ability. Sticking things together is something Ultrahand natively allows you to do, that's not a fuse ability lol, but it does still let you stick things together, like weapons, arrows and shields! I don't *think* there's anything else I wanna say so I'll just leave it at this for now. Anyway, thanks for watching! I really hope you enjoyed the video!

[@IdentifiantE.S]

What an interesting video ! 😄

[@Oceangtag]

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO DOESNT HEART THERE OWN COMMENT

[@DeathGodCaine]

But you never told us which one you perfer 🤔

[@mhswoocer]

@@DeathGodCaine I didn't really want to because I wanted the video to be as unbiased as possible, however considering I revealed it in the short I uploaded the next day, and since you're asking, I don't really have a problem answering! I like Tears of the Kingdom more, and it's not really even close. TOTK might be my favorite game of all time, and Elden ring is just outside of the top 10, maybe in the top 10 depending on the day. I'm just too much of a Zelda fan to not prefer TOTK. But to be clear, I'm not saying TOTK is the *better* game, it just fits my personal preference a bit more than Elden Ring does

[@Pooochowpoo]

0

[@celineholzl]

i did not expect this comment section to be this wholesome towards both games equally, its nice to see

[@WhatsWrongBuddy]

bots. totk is shit

[@unsungzero6122]

Surprised me as well

[@monkeygameplay5455]

yeah now elden ring will do the same thing as totk and redo the same map and have a different name oh and it will be 70bucks this time i hope they add a mechanic that doesn't fit the medieval times like totk did ;D oh and i hope they use enemies as main bosses next (not only in dungeons).

[@WhatsWrongBuddy]

@@monkeygameplay5455 😂 u r a fan rat tendo

[@BestSomebodyNA]

I grew up on KZbin during the days of "Call of Duty/Battlefield is better!" and you have no idea how lovely this is to see.

[@80espiay]

I do feel like the "open world" aspect was talked about more for Elden Ring than TotK in this video, when actually they both embody the spirit of "I can't wander for 5 minutes without being distracted by something" exceedingly well. TotK isn't just a physics game, it is also an open world game, and both games were inspired by BotW.

[@V0-Data]

to be fair tho they used the same map, and when it came to the depths there was no diversity and just a shit ton of mobs scattered around so i got bored of it after some time, and lastly well the sky islands biggest island was the tutorial one which i found to be disappointing i wanted to spend more time exploring the sky islands but they're just little islands with nothing interesting on them

[@EerieChroniclesTV]

@@V0-Data you’ll have to wait for BOTW3 where they add double the islands and some other gimmicks

[@makasete30]

⁠​⁠@@V0-Data to be fair, I’ve not had the same experience as you: there so much changed with the normal world it constantly felt like I was exploring a new world. The depths have some awesome bosses and do feel wonderfully claustrophobic. I haven’t finished exploring the sky island and I’m 50-60 hours in. There are still some higher up structures that look different and I need to explore. I’ve found them some simple yet others hiding some wonderful experience.

[@jumentoqueanima]

​​@@V0-Data Shut up d"mb Weeb.

[@LuchoCarvara]

True x 1000

[@tigeruppercut3934]

These 2 games are so good that no one is even arguing which is better. We’re all just grateful they both exist.

[@esl4058]

It’s funny I’ve always said that Elden ring is basically if zelda was a horror game. Love these two games so much!

[@RP-mp4ow]

I'm arguing Elden Ring is better. The oppressive atmosphere of danger in the world and horror in the dungeons kept me on the edge of my seat for the near complete duration of the playtime. From an immersion perspective, at least, Elden Ring hands down

[@glassboi2677]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@RP-mp4ow imo they both do so well in terms of immersing the player in this great adventure, that I couldn’t choose between them at least in that aspect. Although I definitely understand why someone would choose one over the other as they are both doing very different things and they both exceed at them phenomenally. Personally I just can’t choose between them in that aspect.

[@RP-mp4ow]

@@glassboi2677 my opinion is that TotK's world is too large and the landscape is too much of an obstacle- to me it sorta broke the immersion I had in the game

[@makasete30]

@@RP-mp4ow they have some key differences that I can understand why so one would like one over the other, but for me both are masterpieces that excel. I can’t choose either one as better.

[@qscott777]

Also, your praise of the Ascend ability in TOTK is funny. It's actually the result of a debug feature from the devs while they were creating the cave systems. It was too inconvenient to navigate out of the caves each time. So they created that function. Whoever thought to make it an actual mechanic though, KUDOS!

[@Isuream6331]

I can not imagine this game without ascend. Sounds torturous

[@Isaac-f5x5f]

They could of made it even cooler though, if they allowed you control Link as you swim through the ceiling

[@Mikhaii_64]

​@@Isaac-f5x5fnah bro the switch would blow up

[@indiesongwriter5474]

Apple and oranges. They both have beautiful, massive worlds. Elden Ring excels at combat, enemy diversity, lore, and leveling with a compelling horrific atmosphere. TOTK excels at interactive physics, puzzles, creativity, adventure loops, with a charismatic whimsical atmosphere. I would say that the games are essentially tied as masterpieces and together they are leading the way in terms of where open world games can go. I'm glad they they are so different

[@TrompetenThomas]

THIS

[@Purpleturtlehurtler]

Based.

[@talison461]

Tears of the kingdom is better just for being able to run on the potato switch.

[@indiesongwriter5474]

@@talison461 lol at "potato switch". Nintendo devs are just really brilliant at getting the most out of their hardware.

[@erikfernandoagas]

@@talison461 no.

[@greenlight2323]

They are both great. I am so grateful that we still have those developers.

[@lazybones69]

Japanese FTW

[@BlakeTheSnake98]

@@lazybones69 Yes I agree!

[@modcon-based113]

@@lazybones69 japanese devs r on another level

[@thomasdeguzman1149]

@@lazybones69 Phil Fish's statement have aged like milk

[@dez-m]

Honestly, as a die-hard Zelda fan, I can't help but fully respect Elden Ring and their developers. I couldn't get into it because the Dark Soul's combat wasn't my style, but it is undeniably a work of art! Definitely more than just a video game, but a labor of love.

[@durtypan]

Great take

[@dummythin5378]

W person

[@wyguy1212]

Honestly I was the same but I went back and gave elden ring another shot and man once you break through and start to understand it’s so fucking god damn good man

[@theoldone3485]

Thank you! It's great, and unfortunately uncommon, to find a fan of a genre who can objectively determine the quality of a game without necessarily enjoying it yourself.

[@EMEReynolds]

Just say the game was too hard bro it’s no sweat

[@IHitTheWater]

They are both masterpieces but the abilities of 'Tears are just so well designed and fun.

[@inframatic]

But the combat is Zelda is far inferior.

[@wandewboi]

@@inframatic I think the two games are equal over all. It really depends on what you want. I personally prefer totk because of the puzzle solving

[@abnerradu3426]

@@inframatic perfectly said, both masterpieces in what they were trying to achieve.

[@ljmendez6930]

@@inframatic it’s way more fun imo because it isn’t just hit the opponent. Combat could even be a puzzle if you want it to. You can build a whole trap and never even have to swing your sword and take out a horde of enemies with that trap. Totk is just on another level.

[@Auvisome]

@@inframatic no it’s not lol. Where did this narrative even emerge? Zelda has far more combat options, a far deeper sandbox, better enemies and bosses on average (average ER boss is ulcerated tree spirit). Have you even played the game?

[@pinguman13]

Born too late to explore the new world… Born too early to explore Space. Born just in time to experience these masterpieces 😎

[@legitwhitebelt8353]

Born in the USA?

[@Digger-Nick]

Yes tell us more about how a barren and lifeless open world is a masterpieces lmao

[@Huntsteve]

@@Digger-NickYou can just say Elden Ring is too difficult for you man. It’s alright lol. Clearly both games are objectively incredible.

[@Digger-Nick]

@@Huntsteve Tell me more about how a barren and lifeless world with nothing to do but kill lobotomized enemies that barely even move and don't talk, is "objectively" incredible. My page is also public, the game is not difficult lmao. Weird how all the braindead fromsoft fanboys ALWAYS default to the same "git gut" programming just like a lobotomized enemy in the game. Why embarrass yourself?

[@Digger-Nick]

@@GamerEternelHaven My page is literally public. Crazy how all the braindead fromsoft fanboys default to the EXACT same coping mechanisms of "git gud" when confronted with any form of objective criticism. You're as braindead and lobotomized as the enemies you fight in the game LOL

[@chilicheesejay]

I'm now 41 years old, and when I played Breath of the Wild I described it as the game I had in my imagination when I played the original Legend of Zelda in 1988 at six years old. My six year old brain could not have imagined what Tears of the Kingdom gave us. I have no idea where Nintendo takes this franchise next, and I don't care. They've given us two absolute masterpieces, that we'll be playing for a long time just as I have LoZ, Adventures of Link, & A Link To The Past.

[@sorrow_Sam]

Have you played elden ring? If not you should!

[@IAm-zo1bo]

I would rather play alttp or oot (with better graphics) than totk.

[@keldendorji8749]

​@@IAm-zo1bono one cares

[@IAm-zo1bo]

@@keldendorji8749 don't reply to old comments

[@Ridley70]

I've replayed ER right after finishing TOTK, with a "clear everything and take my time" mentality instead of rushing as it's easy to do when replaying it. I'm still in awe playing ER, to me it's the embodiment of an epic fantasy, an incredible adventure, labyrinthine level design to get lost in, full of exhilarating tension and fascinating visuals, wonderful and creepy. TOTK scratches a very different and complementary itch, where the combat isn't as interesting (to me) but the traversal is everything, it's pretty much "Find the greatest way to cheese this: the game". Just raw fun in one of the greatest sandboxes with literally incredible tools at hand. We're so lucky to have access to such games.

[@robenriven]

well, literally elden ring is focused on combat... so obviously, elden ring combat is better no matter what anyone says,. And zelda focus is on exploration, and its a lot better than elden ring, and its a fact... but its not that its a better game, the things its that they have their own focus so, why are we even comparing games that are different in teory

[@robenriven]

@@thinkwiq3081 ?

[@adminbob_]

@ThinKwiQ lmao you can’t get more relevant than that

[@joedover302]

@ThinKwiQ how is that even meant to be taken as joke lmao

[@blastofo]

Elden Ring is also great to play co-op with a friend. It's also satisfying to lend help to other players that are struggling on a boss, like that first one. And the unique way it has PvP whether you want it or not, really fits with the whole challenging vibe they're going for. I love the dark and creepy world, and the bizarre and grotesque enemies.

[@archshade7891]

Elden ring was inspired by botw while totk is basically the extended and more innovative botw so . . . the winner is still depends to you.

[@DanielMazahreh]

The winner is obvious: Tears.

[@SomeDudeGamin]

​@@Vizzy.787that's why he kinda its still up to you

[@TheTraveler980]

Ocarina of Time inspired 3D Action Adventure games.

[@jaimeruiz7837]

Legend of Zelda as a whole inspired adventure puzzle games. So you are welcome god of war.

[@inixi8ocelot]

All the souls games incluging ER is inspired from King's Field and Armored Core. You can say that ER is an Armored Core-like in terms of customization and weapon controls.

[@rodo2220]

The fact that these two games came out this close together is bonkers. Two of my favorite games ever already.

[@pinguman13]

I agree!!!

[@nameredacted6221]

But elden ring is inspired by botw (just for context)

[@ultimatumdweebium2965]

@@nameredacted6221 it's somewhat inspired but most of what it does is it's thing, elden ring is combat focused, totk is creativity focused, it's combat does not even come close

[@ultimatumdweebium2965]

elden ring is more dark souls than botw

[@nameredacted6221]

@@ultimatumdweebium2965 besides combat, most of the exploring a free world came from botw

[@HenrikoMagnifico]

I have MANY problems with totk, not just the story. Especially the lack of meaningful rewards from ANYTHING. Side quests suck, and you get food from completing them. You practically never need to build anything yourself, and if you do it's always to be rewarded with the samey shrine or korok seed.

[@q-_-p.d-_-b]

It's called grinding. But if you can beat the game with 3 hearts and no extra inventory space. Then you prob are an expert already.

[@bichorock]

Fr, combat feels meaningless, i ain’t getting shit

[@dungeondamsels]

OMG THANK YOU. I KNOW THIS WAS 10 MONTHS AGO BUT THANK YOU!! I completely agree.

[@raynalem]

it's rare thing to play a game and u feel like you don't want it to end. Elden ring and totk both gave me the same feeling.

[@steelsteez6118]

More so Elden Ring though.

[@steelsteez6118]

Totk was awesome too though. Definitely a masterpiece.

[@nurwsama]

Elden Ring is frustrating but really satisfying when you prevail. TOTK is absolute freedom of expression and freaking FUN.

[@whirlwind872]

Until you fight reskinned bokoblin number 5000 or waste yet another 30 minutes of your life climbing just to be rewarded with a korok seed or disposable weapon. I suppose if you enjoy farming zoanite to make wacky contraptions that (inefficiently) kill the mobs, the game could be a lot of fun. But personally I have no interest in that, so the game is just too repetitive after the first 30h. No matter where you explore or what you do, all youll ever find is another shrine, korok, or bokoblin camp. The game is actually closer to Minecraft than elden ring. I'm not saying that in a negative way, it's just not good to compare it to elden ring. TOTK is much more about building than about combat and exploring for rewards.

[@jessew7565]

@@whirlwind872 I find this a weird comment, there is an enormous comparative enemy variety in TotK in comparison to a huge number of other open world games. I really feel like people hold Zelda to far higher standards because some of the criticisms have been absurd. There is never going to be a time in ToTk where you are climbing more than a couple minutes, with the variety of tools available for movement, especially vertically. And building is typically used for traversal of the world, after putting about 80 hours in I haven't really build any large contraptions for fighting, I only see people doing this for views on shorts, which is entertaining in its own right. These complaints are weird enough but I suppose I understand them as a matter of taste, but MAN the idea that it is in anyway like Minecraft is just UTTERLY insane, it is in no way shape or form even remotely similar. At all. Building is not the focus of the game in the least, it is one system of many that is available to be used by the player in anyway they see fit. But as for combat, I would say that Zelda has Elden Ring beat by wide margin, if we are speaking about variety, the potential combinations and insane shit you can do in regards to combat is quite literally endless. The overlapping open ended systems give an endless variety for how to approach any given situation. Comparatively, Elden Ring is extremely simplistic and straight forward. You will use one weapon or two for the majority of your play through and every single encounter will involve the same few moves over and over. There is no dynamic interactivity and interplay between complex interactive open ended systems like ToTK. In fact, I'm convinced that people that don't like ToTK are just boring uncreative players. I say this as a fan of both games btw.

[@makefoxhoundgreatagain842]

​@@jessew7565 the combat in zelda is better than elden? Weird take and you're in the minority there but it's all subjective, I disagree though

[@jessew7565]

@@makefoxhoundgreatagain842 compelling argument

[@makefoxhoundgreatagain842]

@@jessew7565 I mean I could right out an entire essay response on why I think elden ring has better combat to a Internet stranger but then I thought I'd go out in the sun instead 😜

[@LoadedKlip]

Eldin Ring is a 20 out of 10 Tears of the Kingdom is a 20 out of 10 Both are insane masterpieces Game of the year 2022 and 2023 back to back

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

Totk was worse than botw its an 8/10 game stop wanking it off.

[@clswtz]

FFXVI is better than tears tho

[@Ckrost]

@@clswtzyeah keep dreaming

[@clswtz]

@@Ckrost stay mad bro

[@RP-mp4ow]

Tears of the Kingdom is a 6 out of 10 hands down

[@viktorthevictor6240]

Elden Ring: *Can pick up items while horse riding* 🗿 TOTK: *Can pick up items while skydiving* 🗿

[@blueroy1993]

Finished both. They both sit on top of my favorites of all time list. Gamer for 25 years and these 2 gave me so much than any other game ever. Nostalgia cant compete

[@plotius]

Have you ever tried Hollow Knight? That was one of the best gaming experiences I've had

[@blueroy1993]

@@plotius yes I have!!! One of the best for me too 😊

[@MrChadLedford]

Gives me chills just hearing the opening of Elden ring. I played breath of the wild about a a month ago. I had no idea what I had missed. I'm on tears of the Kingdom now. I'm so torn on which one I prefer.

[@scented_meat]

why choose when you can play both

[@Digger-Nick]

If only the rest of elden ring was as grand as the opening music

[@best_mate456]

@@scented_meatexactly people who just have Nintendo or other consoles or missing out on great game 😂

[@Dharengo]

When I finished totk, I said to myself: That was a real adventure. How many years have gone by where I truly felt like I was on an honest to goodness adventure? I think there are three main components to a good adventure: a sense of wonder, agency, and to a lesser extent, stakes. The sense of wonder is what stimulates you every step of the way. It is what makes it all worth it. Agency means that you feel that there are multiple ways to approach a problem, which results in the solution you come up with feeling like it is truly yours. Stakes are but a small part if it, but they are the glue that keeps the experience cohesive. They are the reason for starting your journey, and the reason you keep going. While finding Zelda and defeating Ganondorf are parts of this, smaller stakes are also important, such as a village struggling to find its identity in rapidly changing times. Or even just hearing a story of a certain outfit being hidden in a cave that is itself hidden. All in all totk masters all these elements.

[@Dharengo]

@BrianTheWoeful I haven't played Elden Ring myself, but I've played Bloodborne, and part of what turned me off about that game was I had no idea why I was in this town fighting monsters. It's possible that such games require some sort of meta drive that exists outside the game itself, but I cannot honestly say that that game had stakes. Nothing that happened in that game felt like I had to care about it.

[@ni9274]

@@Dharengo You can read the items description and listen to the dialogue to understand what's happening, that's the goal.

[@infernia4336]

something that i find incredible about tears of the kingdom is that it recognizes that a huge part of the sense of wonder is not knowing what a boss is going to be like. spoilers for main story bosses in tears of the kingdom with every single boss in tears of the kingdom, you are filled with a sense of wonder because the game doesnt give you any clues or make it blatantly obvious what the boss is going to be like or how you could defeat it. as it does with the water, fire, and wind temple boss. the way that you defeat these bosses is not clued as to how you would defeat it, you are simply given the materials needed to do it, yet you are still forced to figure it out on your own. that's why i think everyone's experience beating the temple bosses was different, because for example with the wind temple boss, not everyone figured out you just have to drop onto the ice parts of the snake, and instead some people just chose to shoot it with a bow, as i did. likewise with the fire temple boss, i didnt realize i could use yunobo to break apart its legs, and instead i used recall on the rocks it summoned on me to do damage to it. the only boss that breaks this is the lightning temple boss, and nintendo knew that they made it extremely obvious how to defeat the lightning temple boss, so there was no longer a sense of wonder. they fixed this by outright showing you what the lightning temple boss was going to be before you even started doing the lightning temple. so you already knew what the boss was like, and how to defeat it. by doing this, they brought that sense of wonder back because now what you had left to wonder about was how is the boss in the lightning temple going to be different than what i just did to fight it. theres still a sense of wonder about it and you still have to figure out how to beat the other parts of the boss like the gibdo hives and how to use the light beams to your advantage

[@Dharengo]

@@ni9274 I personally do not think it's good to deliberately design a game so that you need to watch a bunch of lore videos on youtube to figure out what's going on.

[@samf.s.7731]

How many years? I played ER this year, so a couple of months really 😆

[@joelociraptorgaming80]

Elden Ring really felt like a special game to me. I've noticed that the longer I've been gaming, the more burnout I feel about playing open world games. Elden Ring nailed the sense of exploration and discovery for me without dropping 800 pinpoints on the map telling me where to go, I just explored and enjoyed the discoveries I made along the way. It was the first open world game I've played in a long time where I wanted to keep going to see what else I could find. While TOTK has an awesome fuse and ascend mechanic, I found the overall game itself kind of boring personally. I've put about 20 hours into it but I just can't seem to care about the story, the world itself or exploring it. I don't really enjoy the combat system in TOTK either, or the breakable weapons. While Elden Ring made me feel like an explorer, TOTK makes me feel like a bumbling goof who is constantly mashing things together just to survive.

[@jolt1239]

I agree

[@Zemeckis_]

When elden ring came out, it was my number 1 goat. Now that i played totk, i don't know anymore. They're both too good. They are the two greatest games of all time.

[@DanBlabbers]

A lot of respect for Zelda, look at the massive leap forward from link to the past into ocarina of time. People forget how revolutionary Nintendo has been

[@Flat6Enjoyer]

You didn’t play BOTW?? That game was the open world top dog before Elden ring. IMO, if I had to choose 1 game and 1 game only, between ER and BOTW/TOTK (Since they’re both practically the same with new features), it would definitely be Zelda

[@IAm-zo1bo]

​@@Flat6Enjoyernah

[@Ozz131]

@@IAm-zo1bo it is too hard. the game is inconsistent, just too hard to understand. soooo fun. its not hard, its just a mess. hard will be playing overwatch wrecking ball in grandmaster against counter picks. atleast you can understand what is going on and form a strategy. dark souls games are just a series of pressing the correct keys in a specific order and if you dont, die and try again and again and again.anyways, witcher 3 is the best open world fantasy game of all time. it excells in storytelling, combat, open world, progression, lore, and its not too fuking hard.

[@IAm-zo1bo]

@@Ozz131 fid you compare that shit competitive online shooter to elden ring?

[@krystalhaug1957]

It’s so funny so many people in the comment sections are saying that totk is better than ER without ever having played ER……

[@Boc_theSeamster]

saying this as someone who prefers Elden Ring. The opposite of what you said can also be argued.

[@Wesside_Don]

I didn’t pick up breath of the wild until 2021 and right after I finished the game elden ring came out. I was so blessed to play these games back to back. I kept finding myself replaying elden ring up until TOTK came out and my goodness I can’t get enough of this game. Both games are phenomenal and in my top 10 games of all time

[@LimeNoKi]

if you seen botw/totk combat speedruns the combat is more about being creative with all the tools you have and using them to the point where it looks like dmc kinda crazy

[@Auvisome]

Exactly. The combat is way deeper than Elden Ring's and it isn’t even close. The combat depth and options approach and even rival DMC's imo, although DMC is more tightly designed around it, the sheer sandbox and potential of BOTW/TOTK's combat is staggering. Nearing infinity

[@inixi8ocelot]

@@Auvisome NOPE

[@yue7507]

Advanced TOTK combat look like anime fights. It's awesome

[@Uutalo]

@@inixi8ocelot YUP.

[@scottw4866]

​@yue7507 I don't know how people do that combat in BOTW and TotK. I would really like to be able to myself though 😕

[@PurrrPlays]

From a person who just recently started his channel, the narrative, story writing and editing in this video is so good! And I agree with you. I played both games and I love them both, but on different reasons just like what you mentioned. I can't choose between them. Both games hit differently.

[@spencerblomerus2075]

I love both. Elden ring was the first game where I felt truely challenged by a game which gave it a feeling no other game had. Tears of the Kingdom has the fun and takes up to 101. The world created has so much love put into it and every aspect to the game is polished incredibly. Just want mention the music. I get goosebumps every second song omg.

[@krystalhaug1957]

I like the aesthetics of Elden Ring much better. Personal preference. ER looks much more beautiful to me and the dialogues are also written in a style that is more attractive to me.

[@soraaoixxthebluesky]

That bad thing about Elden Ring is that it makes any other combat games feel so easy. And you end up with only a puzzle solving parts where things get can get quite hard depending on the type of puzzles they gave you.

[@Digger-Nick]

There are pros and cons of each form. Armor in Elden ring is completely redundant when in other games it's a staple of the gameplay.

[@Digger-Nick]

@@GamerEternelHaven Armor is COMPLETELY redundant, they even reward you for wearing less and less armor... The entire point is to not get hit, if you're wearing armor, you're assuming you're going to get hit because you are bad at the game. Git gud, you exposed yourself fanboy

[@cheddarsunchipsyes8144]

@@GamerEternelHaventheir point is if you choose to wear armor you are admitting that your bad enough at the game to sacrifice bonus things for armor bc you know you will get hit. At that point it’s just better to learn how to get good and once you are armor is useless

[@Ozz131]

@@Digger-Nick it is too hard. the game is inconsistent, just too hard to understand. soooo fun. its not hard, its just a mess. hard will be playing overwatch wrecking ball in grandmaster against counter picks. atleast you can understand what is going on and form a strategy. dark souls games are just a series of pressing the correct keys in a specific order and if you dont, die and try again and again and again.anyways, witcher 3 is the best open world fantasy game of all time. it excells in storytelling, combat, open world, progression, lore, and its not too fuking hard.

[@davidsantana2568]

Both great games but Breath of the Wild started this type of open world exploration.

[@iluvatarchem]

From Soft clearly took great inspiration from botw with ER. They even did the exact same move Nintendo made, meaning moving to an open world. These 2 are literally sister companies and they will always make masterpieces.

[@user-vi3tb3bw5t]

yall act like elder scrolls never existed lmao

[@bobcrip9816]

Facts

[@lordrikudouzero9119]

⁠@@user-vi3tb3bw5t I think he means “open air” exploration. Skyrim popularized open world rpgs and created the roadmap for games like The Witcher 3 and all other open world games there after. BotW advanced the formula from an amusement park (quest mark)m laden) map to an unexplored Lewis and Clark map you create on your own. This is underpinned by true “discoveries.” Ghost of Tsushima and Elden Ring are two contemporaries of this style w/TotK joining the fray.

[@user-vi3tb3bw5t]

@@lordrikudouzero9119 Eh, I feel like botw was heavily inspired by skyrim and the likes and it shows. it feels pretty empty and honestly had the same quest marks as skyrim so it wasnt really a make your own adventure, and skyrim had more stuff and quests than botw did. totk on the other hand, is full of stuff and endless ways to do things, so it does get that nod.

[@fancychicken7386]

Honestly I think totk has so much more creativity in combat, if you're talking about just swinging a sword then you probably don't have the totk mindset, why not make a room back with auto aiming canons, or a plane that drops bombs on the enemy's, or a cluster of flying laser, what about a battle tank? Enemy to hard? Maybe use an item, but what item? A dazzle fruit? Bomb? Puff shroom? Muddle bud? I could go on for ages about the infinite possibilities that eldin ring couldn't fathom

[@reezrahman1350]

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[@ni9274]

Elden Ring is about the challenge of facing off complex enemies with a set of tools, it has tons of mechanical depth and huge enemy variety.

[@fancychicken7386]

@ni 92 it doesn't have half the mechanical depth of tears of the kingdom, with fuse, ultrahand, items and zonai devices I've seen some of the craziest ways to take down enemies, whereas eldin ring is 50% dodging

[@ghostdog3566]

@@ni9274 TotK also has a variety of enemies & they can be some slick bastards that won't hesitate to hand you your ass (especially the more you fight/the better you handle yourself b/c the game lowkey scales with you) The AI is smarter than people give it credit for; enemies regularly get offline when they see you draw your bow & coordinate w/ each other to blindside you (& jump tf outta you; they don't politely wait for you to deal w/ whatever you're currently facing....you need spacial awareness at all times) And alot of enemies can kill in 1-2 hits; while the timing window for perfect dodge/parry is much tighter than it was in BotW. Not saying Eldin Ring ain't oppressively difficult; jussayin TotK ain't no slouch.

[@ErickMcNerney]

@@ghostdog3566 Very true. I'm still getting 1-shot by lots of enemies with 10 hearts. Also, just being as objective as I can, I don't see a lot of different ways to fight enemies in Elden Ring. The sky's the limit in TotK. If you're approaching it in the same way as Elden Ring, then it's going to probably not be as good, because Zelda has so many components built around the game that you wouldn't think relates to battle (but they can). Zelda's battles are just like its puzzles and exploration - you can approach a battle in almost an infinite number of ways. I didn't see anything too exciting watching the battles in Elden Ring. Some guy swung a sword and it caught you off guard? Just watch an experienced player fight in Zelda. They are doing so much stuff and it looks like a blast. I can't do it quite the same, but there are several game mechanics you can use and exploit in a single battle. As an outside observer, the Elden Ring battles looked boring. Perhaps more realistic though?

[@Banditt_Red]

It’s strange because it seems like Elden Ring perfected BotW by going in one direction. Then TotK perfected BotW in a completely different direction

[@Kanoog]

BOTW is the seed to so many great video game creations pretty much.

[@Thebigboy641]

“Fuse goes hand in hand with ultra hand and lends a hand in handling the handy contraptions you can build.” 😮

[@ssjkaryuusennin]

I don't think it's easy to compare them, I prefer Zelda Totk but Elden Ring has upsides that Zelda doesn't have

[@Auvisome]

@bribri139 they’re not really comparable. Legacy dungeons in ER don’t have any puzzles or mechanics aside from enemy variety and combat. Sure level design and layout varies but Zelda has both.

[@orlando5789]

​@bribri139 Compared to previous Souls games, the ER dungeons are piss poor. Much like Zelda

[@orlando5789]

@bribri139 Leyndell and maybe Elphael are the only levels that even come close to the best of the DS trilogy, let alone the whole series.

[@orlando5789]

@bribri139 Leyndell also has nothing on Yharnam, Frozen Eleum Loyce or Shulva. And Volcano Manor is weaker than the Crown of The Iron King level...

[@radiofloyd2359]

​​@BrianTheWoeful The lightning temple was actually pretty dang satisfying and reasonably complex IMO. I specially like how they made traversal a big part of it. The others were ridiculously easy.

[@josueavila5210]

The fuse ability in totk is amazing

[@jupi_jupi]

Personally hate it. Tedious and looks ugly. Just my opinion.

[@zaristophanes]

@@jupi_jupi certain materials like silver lynel horn look amazing with any weapon

[@V0-Data]

@Dopoo guessing hes talking about building things when u dont got autobuild and have to constantly manually do it which IS annoying

[@glassboi2677]

@@V0-Data it was annoying at first but after you get use to using the ability it’s no longer tedious and just fun

[@glassboi2677]

⁠@@jupi_jupi okay are you talking about ultra hand or fuse? Ultra hand at first is most definitely tedious because your just not use to it yet nor do you have auto build. But honestly how the hell is fuse tedious? All you gotta do is select an item and attach it that’s all there is too it. And as for looking ugly I guess that’s just a preference. Personally idgaf about how my gear looks and in general it’s really not that big of a deal. And adding on it’s really not that hard to make appealing gear you just gotta find the right equipment. In summary this just sounds like a skill issue tbh.

[@gunzkiller101]

Love Elden ring to death but Totk does makes every item useful. One of the large problem is that Elden ring has tons of items but are either useless or so rare that your likely not want to waste. Totk wants you to use your resources, not hoard them. Also allowing the player to solve puzzles in any way even accidentally is the best.

[@EerieChroniclesTV]

Items are useful for 2-3 hits, having 10 paper swords on your backpack is annoying

[@Byakurenfan]

@@EerieChroniclesTV 15-30

[@SuperLuigi1025]

@@EerieChroniclesTV Your thinking of sticks or rusted weapons which break real fast.

[@ihopeyouandicanbefriends]

@@EerieChroniclesTV I promise you I look forward to every time a weapon of mine breaks. In botw I dreaded it because I was losing a cool or strong weapon. in totk I can literally just make my own cool or strong weapon almost whenever I want so whenever I can free up space to create said weapon I'm actually kinda happy. And even then weapons don't break *that* often and there are ways to repair them to full health again if ur that anal about losing that specially crafted dickflattener 9000. the anti-durability arguments hold even less water in totk than they did in botw. there are multiple systems in play that make sure of that and the game's combat gameplay loop would almost entirely fall apart without it

[@jknapp868]

@@EerieChroniclesTV if you play longer, the weapons get better. not only do you find better weapons, but the game has a hidden experience aspect the causes enemies to be stronger as you kill more of them. also you can readily find heavy duty fuse items like spike balls to help you.

[@Kriskirby1992]

I’m grateful for both games for proving that modern gaming can still be as breathtaking as gaming 20 years ago without microtransactions, game-breaking bugs, rushed development, or paywalls

[@jackmayor3574]

Elden Ring is better. Tears of the Kingdom is just BOTW with some gmod mechanics slapped together. I got bored so quickly. It was definitely a mistake to play Breath of the Wild weeks before Tears of the Kingdom came out. I was so utterly sick of Koroks, Shrines, and the general overwold by then. And the story once again involves going to the same villages and fix their divine beast problem, oh wait I mean mini temple problem. And the rest of the story involves us being bystanders as we search for Zelda flashbacks again... ugh.... (her voice actor is still garbage btw) And it pissed me off beyond belief that they barely did anything to fix weapons breaking. And combat strategy is just flurry rush. Only way to make it fun is to intentionally handicap yourself, but that just makes it tedious instead.

[@angelamengualcortinas3614]

As mostly a Fromsoft fan that is also playing TotK, I envy the flexibility and creativeness that Link's powers allow, while I suppose Zelda fans envy the enemy variety, refined melee-combat and the complexity of legacy dungeons of ER. They're both so fricking good but for different reasons.

[@Ray03595]

I think elden ring has a more interconnected world that totk has only scratched the surface of. We finally have a bunch of caves now, but they don’t really go on for too long or open up or lead to interesting places on the map. Once you explore the cave you ascend out and pop up on a random mountiwn most of the time. Think it’s cool that elden ring has dense caves and paths that can lead to shortcuts, and unique places. But totk also now has the depths which doubles the map. Haven’t explored it too much yet tho just cause this games so big

[@dave9515]

You be right i do be envying how fromsoft respected the souls games with elden ring unlike Zelda TOTK disrespecting the franchise's roots once again and no Zelda 1 isn't the roots because the formula used till BOTW was based off ALTTP meaning the series roots starts with ALTTP and even if you use Zelda one it had more structure and actual dungeons. Once you beat dungeon 3 everything afterwards had to be done in a linear fashion. Also you had to beat every dungeon to fight ganon.

[@LuchoCarvara]

@@dave9515 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Zane3Erik]

Yeah, as a BOTW fan, I agree so much! I never played Souls games but I'd like to have 10% of its complexity with fights.

[@jeffthegamerboy3476]

Totk doesn't even come close to the level design of fromsoft. Zelda developers have work to do in that department. I like the combat of both games for different reasons, but I prefer elden ring's combat more and it's better imo. I like fuse, but I still can't get behind the poor durability of weapons.

[@Lexyvil]

I have both of these games and absolutely love them. I seriously can't pick a favourite because they're the best at what they do.

[@penguin3555]

fax

[@southoceann]

Combat in TOTK is as deep as you want it to be. While it can be shallow at the first glance, it's not necessarily so. ER might be loved by the hardcore gamer, but having options to combat the way you like is what makes TOTK appeal to the masses.

[@zach.hanford]

I enjoyed the combat of TOTK more once I changed my mindset. At the start of the game I was like... "I'll fuse this sword to this sword for a big sword" which isn't very effective. But when I started just fusing whatever monster parts fell from the last thing I killed to get me by until the next thing I kill, it felt way different.

[@ni9274]

Having option to kill enemies doesn't make the combat deep, and you also have tons of different options in ER but the enemies are more interesting to kill.

[@robenriven]

I dont know why you even compare combat in both games. Like, zelda is a lot better exploration wise, not because is a better game, the reason is because its basically their main focus. And elden ring, literally is a dark souls, and the main focus in those games is... you know.. combat

[@southoceann]

@@robenriven exactly, please say it louder to the back too, thank you. Why do we have this video again? I have no ideas!

[@southoceann]

​@@ni9274 Like rolling and waiting for the 7 move combo to end, then go in and do a poke dmg of 3%, rinse and repeat? Difficulty does not always equate depth and nuances. Essentially we are talking about one/two solutions vs hundreds of (redundant) solutions to do something. That said, ER is a very difficult game and many people love it for the challenging fights, not essentially the combat system.

[@Dragonstar-p5c]

If TOTK actually used an original world that isn't just the EXACT copy of BOTW but with the depths and sky areas added in, I would agree they're on the same level. I found myself really not wanting to explore TOTK's world because I had already spent 300+ hours in the same world in BOTW. The depths were awesome, the sky was great for the small amount of time it takes to explore it, but the main world is no different outside of caves added in, and different shrines. I wish I never played BOTW before TOTK, then it would have been simply incredible to explore.

[@regalroyn1011]

As someone who loves Berserk and Princess Mononoke, I'm the luckiest person to have this 2 masterpieces back to back. Elden Ring is like went to a famous steak restaurant and eat the best steak ever and saying "Wow! That's so good." Totk is like going to a famous noodles restaurant and served an instant noodles yet somehow it's the best noodles you ever eat like "How!?"

[@yemoochy9553]

I think every one wants to win so The W goes to Tears

[@mihaimercenarul7467]

wq

[@shakinspider]

they’re both phenomenal games. it’s very rare to see games which are finished nowadays, let alone this well made.

[@saycap]

That’s the sad part. Imagine if the standard of gaming was to make the best games possible? How many great games have been screwed over and not made at all because it’s profitable to release games like redfall? Sucks. Hope people buying that stuff start making better financial decisions

[@Digger-Nick]

Elden ring barely has any programming behind it. Dark souls games are VERY easy to produce because of how little effort has to go into making them

[@Digger-Nick]

@@GamerEternelHaven Objectively critiquing a game, on a video dedicated to said game, means I have a bias? When did I try to be subtle? Why are you butthurt over people calling out lazy games? Make it make sense.

[@Digger-Nick]

@@GamerEternelHaven I'm a software engineer and have done some game development. Compared to any modern world game like fallout, elder scrolls, assassins creed, witcher, red dead, etc, there is very little programming that has to go into this game. They copy pasted assets, enemies barely even move, have 0 dialogue, npcs don't move and have very little dialogue (which is entirely prompt based and not an organic conversation mind you), there is no journal to track quests, quests change nothing about the game because everything is static, there is barely any narrative, 90% of lore is exclusively typed into item descriptions as if every item has a massive stone tablet attached to it, etc. Not even mentioning how combat was a downgrade from their previous game. Fromsoft is EXTREMELY lazy when it comes to modern game design, but they know their braindead fans will drool over anything they put out. You've responded to me in several threads with NOTHING but emotional attacks because you're unable to form a single coherent thought. Find better coping mechanisms fanboy

[@thelastpersononearth9765]

​@@Digger-NickThen how come they still have the best combat mechanics 🙄

[@blackblitz2011]

Funny. In TOTK for that thorn tower, I just used oil to make the fire stronger and then shot 2 more fire arrows in it so the flame wouldn't die out. that got rid of enough of them so I could enter. didn't think about putting a cover on top of the fire

[@mrgabe1]

Funny cause my first reaction was to make a cover, I didn’t even think of using oil 💀💀💀

[@mtbboy3960]

I think that you can’t say which one is better. They’re both different but great in different ways

[@jarlwhiterun7478]

I love both of these games. I cant wait for their futures and the next Hollow Knight! The Greenpath song gave me tons of nostalgia.

[@pseudo_apk]

Bet not before 2024 🥲

[@darcidious99]

Silly, silksong doesnt exist, it was all just a dream we collectively had!

[@samf.s.7731]

Shout out to the person who mentioned Hollow Knight 😊

[@blastofo]

I love both games too, but Hollow Knight I couldn't get into. Kept getting frustrated with not being able to find any clues on where I was supposed to go next.

[@saycap]

We know team cherry is gonna deliver. Let them cook🔥

[@Kolya-chu]

The devices people build and advanced combat tech in TOTK actually blow my mind. I feel like a pea-brain when I watch what people can do 🤯🙈 💀

[@cheddarsunchipsyes8144]

Lol rip 💀

[@ryanpongracz8051]

The topographic reflection of the surface and under world itself is and should be an award winning game world of all time. It reflects like an oposite version of the overworld and the walls and mazes that represent the oceans you have to fly over, only you cant see anything, just pitch black, best atmosphere ever.

[@martinduebner]

I just realized that i actually constantly cycled through Ultra-Hand, Fuse, Ascend and Rewind. The realization of how much i actually used these abilities gave me a big smile right now, cause the game obviously did a really good job.

[@DragonHalo3D]

they're both different games for a different type of player. as for me, totk is probably my personal best game ever made. the sheer amount of freedom you have is unheard of. the game is all about the problem solving, and any solution you can think of there's most likely a way to make it work. i dont think we'll ever get another game like this, at least not for a very long time, and im glad i got to experience it fresh

[@GamesbiteRtDL]

Man I just love the Rewind ability. You can cheese the game, but *expertly* and *conveniently*

[@wetteryan]

Uhg the abilities in tears are so FREAKING good! I thought I was gonna miss the runes from BOTW but nawww. Not at all. Accomplishing something by using 2 or more of the abilities together is so satisfying. Using ultra hand to move a platform over an edge and positioning it under something you want to ascend through and then bringing it back to you and then standing on the platform and using recall on it so it floats you to that position so you can ascend... It's just so so special.

[@thesketchartist6328]

If only they would’ve came out the same year then we would’ve got to see Elden Ring get game of the year over Tears of the Kingdom

[@lotrfan4237]

That would have been amazing, honestly.

[@Kishinoo]

and they still lost against some turn based game lmfao Elden ring would destroy these zelda game @@Vizzy.787

[@danielmunoz1275]

Yes, this is what I've always told to my friends. Both games are masterclasses in Open World games, there's no objectively "better" game, there's only focus and preferences: Elden Ring focuses more on Combat, while TotK focuses more on Problem Solving. It's a matter of what an individual personally enjoys more to set one of these games on top of the other. To me, I like TotK better, and again, it's not that I dislike Elden Ring, or I did not enjoy it, or that I think it's an "inferior" game. The reason for this preference is because I find more enjoyment in problem solving than combat skill and complexity. For example, in Elden Ring you develop your character the way you like and when facing a strong or many strong enemies, you can either change your character or strategy slightly, or stick to your attributes and find a way to win the battle despite that. While TotK allows me to take enemies by stealth, building a machine or drone to assist me (or completely destroy all enemies haha), make the enemies fight each other, having a head-start on battle by positioning myself in the air to make critical shots on the enemies when they haven't noticed me yet, during the fight I can rely on skill, or use elemental attacks planned beforedhand by fusing weapons, there is a LOT of options, which makes the skill in combat not that important or demanding, but encouraging creativity and problem solving thinking, which stimulates me more. If anyone else feels more stimulated by learning attack patterns, battle rhythm, and everything Elden Ring offers is cool as well and another masterful system. I'm glad we have these two games on the market, and that I'm alive to play and enjoy them, and everyone else should too, because the only objective thing here, is that both Elden Ring and Tears of the Kingdom are historic and groundbreaking masterpieces.

[@andrew-rn9ui]

Botw + totk , RDR2 , and Elden Ring should be the golden standard for video games going forward God of war was pretty amazing too but doesnt hold a candle to fhese games especially for replay caoability

[@joefebri3236]

Elden Rings : Exploration, Combat. ToTK : Exploration, Physics, Torturing Koroks

[@inchanted3179]

imagine if they both came out the same year, Game Of The Year awards have to give them both the GOTY award

[@youtubesucks1821]

Why do you think TOTK was delayed?

[@Zemeckis_]

If there was a game of the century, they'd both deserve it.

[@youtubeobserver]

@@youtubesucks1821 TotK was delayed for polish, they’ve already come out and said this. Having put 100+ hours in, I genuinely believe them

[@binjinguyen]

Totk or botw is more like sekiro level, where developers do what they do best. Sekiro improve arpg combat with parry and posture, botw and totk improve openworld games with open space and freedom to explore. Eldenring is just darksoul 4 with halfass openworld and reskin bossfights. The masterpiece in eldenring is level design but it dont shine too much in a openworld soul game like eldenring.

[@youtubesucks1821]

@@youtubeobserver This game was done a long time ago. They wanted to be a separate year than Elden Ring once the Nintendo Heads caught wind of it. Metroid Prime 4 is also done and they are waiting for the next console. As well as the next big Mario game, which may not be completed yet, but it's going to be for the next console

[@microwave.mp3438]

One thing I gotta say about elden ring that I think you missed is it's soundtrack. Take for example Radahn's soundtrack, it has the issue that it doesn't make sense and kinda sucks unless you have played the game. If I showed Radahn's final phase's theme to someone who doesn't know of elden ring they would just think it's alright or pretty bad. But if you fight him, know his story and the grandness of the fight after dying to him 50+ times it feels epic and motivating and it gets your blood pumping. TOTK soundtrack is good, and I would say if you went in without any knowledge of either is better, but elden ring's soundtrack adds to the worldbuilding and bosses so well its almost uncanny

[@BoyanMladenov-l4n]

elden ring is one of the best games ive ever played no doubt but im still heavily bias for totk as zelda was the series i grew up with and will always have a special place in my heart and regardless of how good a game is, it will never replace the zelda series for me

[@BradfordRMcKnight]

I’m playing TOTK right now, but I would give anything to be able to play Elden Ring for the first time again.

[@Luizanimado]

I tried to play Elden Ring twice now, and I don't know, I honestly wasn't having a good time, I don't why, was not only the difficult, but the combat and the world didn't feel very intuitive for me, but this video made me want to play again, maybe I'll give it another try.

[@youtubesucks1821]

Start with dark souls or something to get used to it. I can't imagine having fun in Eldin Ring if those kinds of games are brand new to you.

[@calebheino2205]

⁠@@youtubesucks1821 I dropped elden ring when it first came out on PC. It was extremely overwhelming and difficult when I started playing. As my first experience with fromsofts game philosophy I eventfully picked it up again after 10 months of release with a fresh new save file and went in with a walkthrough. I went on to complete the game and completing a no level up on vigor challenge run and am planning on going back to do more challenge runs when I had my fill with TOTK.

[@youtubesucks1821]

@@calebheino2205 I still think TOTK is the funner game objectively, as objective as you can be when talking about fun. Elden Ring is fun in a very different way. It's a challenge and you never know what to expect. TOTK is more focused on fun then challenge. If a boss is too hard, build some homing laser cannon or something. TOTK you actually do kinda know what to expect, like Koroks and shrines, etc. But you never know how it's going to happen or be presented. But thats not on the same level as Elden Ring where, unless you've seen a guide, you won't know what's happening most of the time or where you're going or who you're fighting. They're a little too different to compare, but TOTK hands down is a funner game at it's core.

[@supersbbrawl4ever]

​@@youtubesucks1821 Fun is subjective at the end of the day, someone would find Elden Ring more fun than TOTK.

[@youtubesucks1821]

@@supersbbrawl4ever Bro, actually read what I say or don't bother responding. Fun may be subjective but you can absolutely quantify it in objective ways. Your opinion of a game is irrelevant. I don't care how much fun you had with it, that doesn't make it fun. There are people that have fun playing chess, does not make chess fun. Elden Ring is not focused on fun, it is focused on challenge. Some may find challenge fun, does not change the FACT that the game is NOT focused on fun. TOTK is not focused on challenge, it's focused on fun. Some may find it challenging, does not make it a challenging game unless you're talking creatively. But it's that creativity aspect that makes it more focused on fun. They give you all these tools and powers and a whole adventure to test them all out on. Elden Ring gives you items and spells you get from chests and stuff. It can be fun setting up your character, but you don't have the creative freedom that makes TOTK so fun. So thank you for your useless contribution to this thread. Go back to school you brain dead child

[@mustachelegs1809]

Daredevil season 3 is filled with a ton of great characters, but Benjamin Poindexter aka "Dex" is definitely one of my favorites (spoilers below, go watch daredevil). Dex is introduced as an FBI agent who is trying to do good, but the viewer quickly finds out that he is a stalker and throughout the show he rapidly changes into a cold blooded killer who takes enjoyment in cutting down the innocent. What I love about Dex's character is that it doesn't just show the progression of him becoming a villain, but also the way that Wilson Fisk drives that progression and systematically destroys his mental state, turning Dex into a tool that he can use. We first see Dex defending Wilson Fisk's FBI transport from a gang attack where he pretty much single handedly turns the engagement around, executing each assailant with deadly precision. It's here that Fisk takes an interest in Dex and wants him as a bodyguard. Fisk soon has investigators dig up everything they can about Dex and finds out that Dex has borderline personality disorder and has killed people from a young age. Despite this, Dex has tried to keep himself on the straight and narrow as he learned in therapy that he's not broken, he just needs some help to understand right and wrong. We soon find out that almost everything in Dex's life is designed to help keep him on a good path; his job choice, his daily routine, his religious cleanliness, and we find that the woman (Julie) he stalks is a woman he knew and who he wants to be like. While still highly creepy, he has no intent to ever interact with her and he feels that seeing her presence helps him become a better person. Throughout the show Fisk tries to destabilize him on each of these fronts, getting him suspended from his job, turning the media against him, finding Julie and getting her to move jobs so that Dex runs into her when he didn't intend to. Fisk largely succeeds in these attempts, and at critical points of destabilization, he tells Dex that they're similar and that Dex should embrace his urge to kill. Tells him that he would accept Dex as he is, rather than as society wants him to be. Dex eventually succumbs to this, dons a fake daredevil suit, and goes on numerous murderous rampages. In spite of this, Dex still understands that he's doing something horrible and tries to restabilize himself, which culminates in Fisk killing Julie and Dex's ultimate psychotic break. Most shows take the trope of a mentally unwell villain and simply coat them in stereotypes and harmful ideas like that they're born evil or they are in their nature harmful. Daredevil avoids this and instead presents us with a man who has been told that he needs help and who does everything in his power to live a good, morally upstanding life. He overcomes his mental issues and truly becomes a force of good. That is, until Fisk steps in and tries to turn him into everything he was trying to avoid. I think the beautiful thing about s3 of Daredevil is that we see a lot of characters through different and complex lenses and Dex is no exception. We see Dex through Ray's eyes as a man who saved his life and later as a dangerous maniac; Julie views him as someone who is desperately trying to better himself; Matt views him as a dark mirror, reflecting who he could be; and Fisk sees him as a man who could be used as a tool. Ultimately Dex's story arc is just as impactful as Ray's, showing what happens to good well meaning people when Fisk gets his hands on them. It's so rare to see a psychotic villain who is mostly handled with tact and treated as a tragic character rather than a born menace.

[@c52g71]

Saul goodman dies in endgame

[@_Fizzy_1]

I haven't been gripped by a post in a long time. But this? This is expression. This is what it means to live.

[@yozu365]

yeah i don't agree but that's just me idk

[@mustachelegs1809]

@@yozu365 ok and? literally didnt ask

[@yozu365]

​@@mustachelegs1809 if the daredevil cast was a kpop group fisk would probably have more fancam views than dex, but that's just imo.

[@therealgah777]

Both games are simply amazing and easily broke into my personal top 10 favorite games of all time.

[@DayLateGamerWill]

I would LOVE it TotK implemented an "Elden Ring Mechanic" to soft-reconfig totk to elden rings exploration mode

[@joekletz2705]

If you enjoy killing bokoblins, with almost no variation in gameplay, then Zelda is a clear winner!

[@venahtmusic]

I feel like the amount of detail that TotK puts into its physics system, allowing for it's endless creativty, is matched by Elden Ring's endless amount of detail in it world and lore. Like, even as a long time Dark Souls fan, the depth of Elden Ring's world was insane.

[@torwauki7]

One big difference is a dark world full of fearsome beast, vs a cartoonie world. Take your pick, elden ring is a much more mature game, vs a kiddie game.

[@karlelmagnifico564]

🍌

[@jorvax3744]

Not kiddie it's just the art style, everyone has their preferences but i agree that elden ring graphics are more immersive

[@Jrush2000]

Why are we comparing two exceptional games? Why not play both?

[@Akrilloth]

The only thing i miss seeing in TotK was more "weapon styles/movesets" and Darknuts, or an equivalent knight type enemy to "duel" with like the one in Twilight Princess. (not counting the second wind of the gloom hands, of course.)

[@moscje]

TOTK is another level.

[@mihaimercenarul7467]

it isn't

[@panasit]

Zelda reward exploration with more puzzle, Elden Ring reward exploration with unique bosses. I'm a Nintendo fanboy, so Zelda all the way. BUT, the one thing I think Elden Ring does better is rewarding player with a unique lore boss. Malenia is the completionist reward of Elden Ring. She hid away at the furthest of the furthest of the map and even the casual streamers/let's player still manage to seek her out. Compare this to the shrine completion reward, or the korok completion reward, or any of the Zelda's completion reward (the tunic, the bike). I hope the DLC of Totk give us some good lore enemy to close off this saga.

[@_Fizzy_1]

Elden Ring has so much more when it comes to lore, story, characters, atmosphere. Exploration (while admittedly having far fewer movement options) has more meaningful and memorable things to discover and subsequently has so much more depth. Its combat is so much more engaging, in-depth, varied, and rewarding. It's build/character creating gives it infinitely more replayability (as well as its almost countless areas, which the average person couldn't possibly see in just one playthrough). Its aesthetic is absolutely jaw-dropping and environmentally more varied. But Tears of the Kingdom lets you build b4 bombers and torture koroks. The winner is simple.

[@whiteRiceSupremacist]

War crimes for the win

[@Dr._is_sleepy]

DIE, YOU LITTLE LEAF GREMLINS!!

[@stormshadowoffire]

Exploration is far more meaningful and memorable in ToTK for me (played and loved both games) I find ToTK's world far more inviting and by proxy more interesting. ER's world is too dead for me to care too much about what I find.

[@_Fizzy_1]

@@stormshadowoffire That definitely makes sense! My comment was mostly built just to have the war crimes joke.

[@inspecta6956]

I beat eldin ring 5 times so I loved eldin ring but tears of the kingdom is such a masterpiece and I’ve played Nintendo games since my youngest gaming years it has a special place in my heart

[@BlakeTheSnake98]

I too have beat Eldin Ring about 5 times. I feel you. I'm playing TOTK right now and It's amazing too. Were lucky to get such games.

[@best_mate456]

@@BlakeTheSnake98more like is lucky we have both consoles 😂

[@mihaimercenarul7467]

@@BlakeTheSnake98 cringe kid

[@kylesuds00]

Both feel like everything I have ever wanted in an open world video game since I began gaming 20+ years ago

[@jclovespenguinz0]

Dang I nearly cried. What a beautiful conclusion 😢

[@cheddarsunchipsyes8144]

Miphas theme 😱😭

[@danielgrezda3339]

I would add XC3 to my favorite exploration games as the world has a linear structure, but it branches out. And it shows you where you can go, but never gives you a map of that place or what it is besides a potential side quest or main mission.

[@omgray]

Xenoblade doesn’t get the love it really deserves

[@johnnyjcz]

Hell nah

[@raidev_]

eh, i love that game, but the interactivity with the world is not as great as these 2, and the quest markers you can't disable make it feel much more linear

[@danielgrezda3339]

@@raidev_ The quest markers are my biggest gripe, but I think in terms of exploration, I have spent as much time exploring and finding new areas as I have spent on the main campaign, and I think there's a good fifth of the map left for me to discover.

[@youtubesucks1821]

XEN OMEGALUL BLADE

[@roydavid5761]

There’s no loser when it comes to awesome games like these.

[@patarratap4231]

Both games are tied for my favorite of all time, and I personally see no reason to try to force myself to come up with reasons why one is better than the other. Both games are absolutely masterpieces, and I’m just glad to have been able to play both.

[@mohamedkhomsi3375]

i didn't like the idea of comparing them but you did well, thanks! These 2 games are my 2 best ever made games and I'm playing since 1985.

[@darkblaze373]

tears of the kingdom is so fucking overrated... i lost motivation 55 hours in and just decided to do shrines and quest only, none of the drops are any good and koroks are pointless after a while.

[@dog8438]

Both are such amazing games that I don't even think you can pick one. Elden Ring gives off that "once in a decade" energy that Skyrim did and Tears of The Kingdom manages to do it too one year later. I'd probably lean more towards ER just because I find Souls difficulty to be more satisfying but TOTK knocked it out of the park with the abilities and the sandbox gameplay. One thing I really appreciate that both games do is sort of let you choose your own path. There's an implicit path that both games lightly suggest for the player but you can completely ignore it and follow your own narrative order and I love that.

[@nicholasderemi8493]

My heart just darkened while I was listening to your review on Elder Ring. Legend of Zelda just brought glow and joy. Yes I am this type of player! I would definitely try playing Elder Ring too, however. Seems so interesting (although a bit chaotic)

[@sorrow_Sam]

Elden ring is as fun as it is challenging. And it's one of the most challenging games ever created

[@jeremymartin7403]

I like tears of the kingdom a lot more I didn’t really like eldin ring to much I felt like the game can be very aimless some times

[@sn00k3_9]

I put in 15 hours to totk and forgot it exists

[@shenoh]

After Tears... We NEED either a OoT or TP remaster in the nowadays graphics Imagine that shit broooooo

[@firenze6478]

I want a traditional that brings back classic music and unbreakable upgradable weapons but allows for sequence breaking like older titles without sacrificing the narrative like botw does

[@Evenmoresteven]

I feel they are different enough to not have to compare the two. Elden Ring is more focused on combat and exploration, with a hint of puzzle solving. Zelda TotK is more focused to puzzle solving and exploration, with a lesser focus on combat. You can appreciate both as masterpieces in their own right.

[@yadspi]

I'd argue that TotK combat is harder but you can pause and have almost infinite healing items, give it 4 healing items and no pause to put them on the same level and Zelda is harder. Finished Elden 3 times in a row. Also that scene of entering Limgrave you talked about is almost an exact copy of getting out of the cave in BotW.

[@billyssb164]

I’d agree if flurry rush didn’t exist

[@dino5502]

Not even close. Elden Ring combat is far more difficult. Faster pacing, less telegraphed moves, more diverse enemies, far more challenging bosses, fewer OP items like muddle buds and puff shrooms, no armors which present buffs and negate most damage with no negative effects or character investment attached, in addition to the lack of pause and healing you already mentioned. For most enemies in TOTK, late game scaling just means larger health pools. There wasn't a boss or enemy in TOTK that took me more than one try or more than 4 healing items. The only way to make it challenging is to deliberately nerf yourself with bad equipment and no shrine upgrades, and that still runs into the issue of bad equipment being unable to last long enough to chip through enemy health bars. Don't get me wrong, TOTK was a blast and combat was great, but combat was nowhere near as difficult as in ER.

[@Will_Parker]

Here's the thing, until a month ago the discussion was whether Elden Ring was better than BotW and it was a 50/50 split from my experiences with people. TotK is so much better than BotW that it really isn't even a comparison, I'm not saying Elden Ring is bad at all, it just can't stand up to TotK and I can't imagine any game doing just that for a long time.

[@rooty]

Lol how is TotK one of a kind? It's DLC for a game that came out 6 years ago

[@XZero151]

I lovingly enjoyed both, but I do agree they cater to different audiences. Elden Ring satisfied my personal venture for a challenge while traversing an ugly, cruel, dead, yet beautiful world that shows that it is now preparing for a new era with the Tarnished. Tears of the Kingdom fascinates me for its limitless personal creativity to explore while also seeing the rebuilding of a world and its people right after the events of breath of the wild. For example, I did a different creative solution to solving that tower puzzle. I remembered an npc talk about Hylian Pine Cones and its extremely combustible property. So I put a pine cone next to the thorns, set it on fire and it ACTUALLY WAS SO HOT it burned even in the rain. Da da da daaaaaa!

[@Dave2kool4skool]

Elden Ring is a great game but the one thing I had hoped it did would introduce aerial traversal and combat. Similar to those soldiers with the flying attacks but with freedom to move around and fight. TOTK did a great job expanding further with the sky and depths

[@volacticmilk9614]

ER is like BOTW, it was From Soft's first outing in the Open World genre. It's not really fair to expect what ToTK did for ER considering FromSoft had to make the foundation for future installments. ToTK already has that foundation from BoTW, allowing them to push it further with abilities like fusion, ascend, zonai devices, aerial traversal. I feel like a majority of people in these comments just expect ER to do everything ToTK did, when that's not even a remotely fair comparison considering the jump from a Single player game previously (Sekiro) to a massive Open World game that shatters about as many records that BoTW did. Both games are great, and I'm sure the next ER will put the pressure back on Nintendo with whatever they add next to this new foundation.

[@FluffyBunniesOnFire]

Both were addictive experiences for me. ER was like a dark obsession, and TotK was compulsively fun. It's the latter that will get more replays.

[@gustaveriksson113]

Personally I had more fun and enjoyed Zelda more, but Elden Ring is open world Dark Souls so it's basically perfect by itself. It's just two masterpieces.

[@sheezynation]

Elden ring makes me determined. It makes me want to overcome and win and it makes me feel proud when I do. But Tears of the Kingdom makes me HAPPY. Every step is joy and that experience is the one I’d go with

[@yannispirou101]

Both are 11/10 masterpieces and I think which one is better depends on which series/genre you prefer. If you're a Zelda fan, you'll most likely prefer TotK, while if you're a Souls fan, you'll probably prefer Elden Ring.

[@DwayneIsK1NG]

Breath of the Wild was the first Zelda game I ever played and my God was it an introduction 😭. So damn fun to play. Didn't think it was possible to build on in, but Tears of the Kingdom ABSOLUTELY did that.

[@Knightly_Mapping]

now the question is can you build on totk?