ELECTRIC BOILER & PRESSURISED HOT WATER INSTALLATION | Is electric the future | How To

Electric boiler installation along with a new pressurised hot water cylinder makes for a very good combination for the plumbing and heating within this house.
i remove the existing oil fed combi boiler and plumbuing pipework, then alter the pipes and get toi use the presstool properly as i refit theis electric boiler and pressurised hot water cylinder
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[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Complete installation of this electric boiler and pressurised hot water cylinder for a customer that’s been waiting a few months. Please get subscribed to the channel of you like my content….

[@gregbenham5586]

To Me, it's all a bit DIY looking.

[@richardwalker6417]

​@@gregbenham5586bit harsh that, I think it looks pretty spot on tbh.

[@robinmacthebest]

Mark I thought I would just say how much I love watching your channel. I have no experience of plumbing and no intention of taking it up as I am the wrong side of 50 now but I can clearly see how you could inspire many younger people to take on your profession. Keep up the great content. Robin

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thankyou Robin…. Very kind words and glad you like the channel

[@onlyme972]

Crazy expence when its more effective to install tankless instant heaters in the kitchen and bathroom. I have just installed a electric combi that has separate heaters for radiators and instant hot water.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@andrewoleary9704]

Installed many electric boilers. TBH I’ve been impressed. No flue…. No condense….easy sighting. Have yet to do a combi version tho

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yep I’m very impressed with it to be honest👌🏼

[@nickbea3443]

How are they for scale in hard water areas?

[@normanboyes4983]

Interesting video thank you for showing the install. A surprising choice by the customer particularly in view of the property (from what I can see) - I would guess that house has a heat loss of around 9 KW at - 2C, his bills are going to be eye watering unless he heats his house to around 10C.😉 There’s a place for electric boilers and high heat loss properties are not the place for them - well unless you are minted of course.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Solar panels now in place on this job

[@normanboyes4983]

@@MJTiffPlumbing Well, of course any contribution by solar generation on an annualised basis will reduce the annual electrical bill a bit but unless he owns a huge barn, not shown in the video, that he can deploy about forty panels on - it is not going to touch the sides in terms of meeting the heating demand.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

@@normanboyes4983 its made a great difference so far

[@Lizzard-t]

I can really see the benefits of press fit its clean and time saving, and yes you have to think ahead,but that comes with experience of using it . I would really like to have a go with it . One good thing I can see straight away is that you can make half a tee without having to press the whole lot ,thats something you cannot do with soldering. Electric boilers have come on leaps and bounds since the last time i fitted one which was over 12 years ago. Also it incorporates the cirulator and bypass as well. It's good that you had basically a clean canvas to mount everything out of the way. And another thing is that pre-plumbed cylinder worked a treat, never fitted one,i always fit the standard type unvented . Yet again another quality install, and a real insight into what we go through to provide customers with heat and hot water. Yours is the only channel i watch which is not full of click bait and stupity. Fantastic video as always.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy….. appriciate the kind words…. Yes it’s a very good system to be honest

[@chrisholt2474]

Hi Mark, getting to grips with the press fit, I think the job looks great with the pressed fittings, in that setting. As far as thinking ahead about what to press in what order, an element of that goes into it when soldering fittings too. You just get used to it and it becomes natural after a while, as we say, press, push and solder all have a place depending on the situation. I’m looking forward to the film on the cost of press fit fittings etc, have a great week and take care, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks Chris….. yep I’m getting to grips with it a little now

[@mdocko2285]

Wicked install Mark. Would be proud to look at that. Well done mate 👍🏼

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate, enjoyed doing it to be honest

[@stuartcraigon2003]

Im not a plumber but heavily reserched press for a commercial project i was planning. Id suggest clipping before pressing. When you did the first press the pipe was flapping all over the place. Another recommendation is to use McDonald water storage for cylinders. Might not be cheap but they are all made to order and can be whatever you want with fittings wherever you want them. If likd this job youve got fixed pipes to hook on to you tell them where they are and theyll put the fittings on the cylinder where you need them.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Cheers buddy will take a look👍🏼

[@stuartcraigon2003]

@@MJTiffPlumbing I put one link in the Elison cylinder swap video, they do like for like on them and make them to fit the space.

[@alimack5489]

I’ve got customers who are paying £600+ a month on electric boilers 😅 love the work mate, but the customers a brave one doing it like that

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Will be getting a monthly update on what it’s costing them….. it won’t be anywhere near that figure I can assure you. And it will be a lot less than there oil boiler was costing them

[@lukejackson5747]

Would have been miles better putting an up to date low kw oil boiler back in if the infrastructure was already there. Statistically miles cheaper than electric with or without solar pv (which doesnt give you much contribution in the winter months) oil is great if set up properly and not slung in, add in some pipe stats on the return so it doesn’t produce unnecessary heat and they can be so efficient, bizarre to change to electric in the current climate with costs of eleccy.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Customer is over the moon now he has Solar running it…..

[@donaldduncan6017]

You are a great thinker planner of projects with excellent outcomes!😊

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy…. Kind words

[@tonymurff5234]

Brilliant install Mark, the electric boiler looks very nice, The press fit looks very nice and clean, Haven’t seen you do much soldering in awhile 😂 👍👍🤜

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Hahaha….. I was soldering a job on Friday….😉 won’t stop me doing that, that’s for sure. Each one has its place…. Will be a video on it very soo

[@AaronM4275]

Fair play mark such tidy work 👏👏 pressfit is starting to prove itself now

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate…. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@rick17aa]

This is why I like the idea of the remes press tool with the angle jaw adaptors.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yep angle jaws coming for the Novopress soon

[@rubbersteve123]

Your work is so neat, tidy and professional. A pleasure to watch. Thanks.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy

[@robkiss5272]

Thanks Mark for your videos. Really enjoy watching them. You and PB are brilliant! Got a job in a coupe of days and contemplating on either soldering or press fit…. 🤔. It is under floor boards for relocating pipes and a new rad…looking at this I might use the press to save time. Thanks again for sharing your experience with us.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate, glad you like our content….. I think I would go press for ease

[@mehdimahmoudinasab9239]

Hi, it's a great job. Can you explain more about electric connection ( programmer,room thermostat) please

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

That’s one for the sparkies on this job buddy

[@David-bl1bt]

A lovely neat install 👍 Working in an outbuilding makes life so much easier doesnt it! Regarding the pressfit access to that tee behind the cylinder....i have seen another video where they had an sngled adaptor tgat tit between the tool and the head to facilitate access to situations like these, it may be worth purchasing. Anyway, a good job and an interesting video to watch

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy…. Yep angle jaws are now avalible 👍🏼👍🏼

[@pauls826]

I have the same problem with same press gun just ordered angled jaws for them also thst pipework I’d of turned the hep elbows to the left come out of them and joined it all there just looping round loads of flow restriction 👍 also buy some reducing tees saves putting reducers in 22 tees also put some tees with valves on for flushing way you’ve done it which is what most people do flushing all the crap through the boiler I put valves on tees at the bottom and turn boiler off and flush through just the heating 👍

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I flush with the Magnaclean so it also runs through the boiler…. 100% system flush then, not missing out key parts like the boiler

[@pauls826]

@@MJTiffPlumbing yeh get you if it’s a new install I just flush the pipework like tees on flow and return isolate boiler if it’s an old system I try and get diverter open don’t like doing it had a piece of shit stuff in a hex once £400 later I’m chaniging it 😂

[@russellbaldry5095]

I recently installed a EHC comet combination unit which is a combi and unvented cylinder in one. Its the size of a fridge/freezer but it works really well. Only issue we had was the main fuse needed upgrading to 200 amp as the draw of current was too high!

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Sounds interesting that… will take a look

[@acelectricalsecurity]

That's not a domestic installation, you are in CT territory there, all domestic meters are rated at 100amp and that's not continuous use either

[@triax7006]

Sounds like that would be 3 phase as they run more than 14.4KW & need 3 phase to achieve it & are used when a bath is supplied by it or when higher flow is needed for hot water. Also possibly when more radiators are needed & more than 14.4KW is needed which draws 63 amps at 230V.

[@englishdave9986]

That press system definitely makes the job look mint.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy👍🏼👍🏼

[@kevinisaac9139]

great job mark but I have to disagree saying the electric boiler will be cheaper to run than the oil electric is far more expensive than oil to run if he had replaced that with a new oil boiler a lot cheaper I am an oil engineer and I have fitted these boilers min 10 kw to feed them he will have big ills I know they modulate when they come up to temp and use less kw but because electricity is so expensive I think he will regret having it we have had oil for over 30 yrs and is cheaper than my electric bill to run

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate… Time will tell, he’s monitoring it and at the moment a month in and it’s saving him money so far…… I will keep an eye on it

[@kevinisaac9139]

@@MJTiffPlumbing ok Mark thanks for getting back

[@Sparko337]

Nice to see you give press fit a fair chance, hate seeing plumbers disregard it because they aren’t open to new ways of working or investing in new tools. I see it in all trades and it’s not that the old ways don’t work, because they definitely do! But doesn’t mean you should be set in your ways and not move with the times.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yep I just want to give an honest review and test of pressfit as I know it’s so expensive

[@UnriddenPath]

Great content, keep it coming. Have you fitted many electric boilers? What's been your best to work on?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy…. Should be fitting a few more soon so watch out😉

[@johndevlin980]

I still get the feeling you are not sold on the press fit Mark, your face tells a different story 😀 Great video, lovely looking job pal

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yep…. I’m not 100% with it just yet….. don’t think I ever will be.

[@gsdevme]

Odd he didn't go heat pump here though right? would of been alot cheaper to run then an electric combi

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

It’s not an electric combi…. It’s heat only👍🏼 Solar going in in the future

[@joshmannix8173]

Can you see yourself leaning towards it on future jobs? Are you worried about potentially not getting the job because of the cost of the fittings etc, lovely that prv btw 😎👍🏼

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

No that’s not even crossed my mind as the time it saves is a lot…. Will be doing a video on it very soon

[@SmartPipePlumbing]

Great video pal, they have definitely improved electric boilers over the year

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Cheers buddy….. yep I was very impressed to be honest…

[@neo_265]

Rented a house with an electric boiler......very expensive to run and it didnt modulate......it's just full on or off. A properly specced air source heat pump is the way to go if you want electric heating, on milder days they can cost 5 times less than an standard electric boiler. Only problem is they are mega expensive at the moment and lots of negative press due to cowboy installations.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

This boiler is going to be so much cheaper to run than what they had….. been in a week or so now and customer loves it

[@neo_265]

@@MJTiffPlumbing wait until winter when the heating costs then £30 - £40 per day to run.

[@kylejames5121]

Great video mate nice install

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

[@TheMaintenancePlumber]

Nice install there looks good

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy

[@patrickmurray2220]

Plus its just good fun to get the oul press gun out. It makes plumbing more fun i think anyway

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I takes the skill away from soldering pipes I think…. But it is very easy

[@patrickmurray2220]

I think the fittings look class as well

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

👍🏼

[@danmcgrath3882]

Nice neat pipework, but why not just fit a direct cylinder with two immersions? Cheaper, and similar recovery time plus less complexity for the pipework and heating controls, and it means you always get full power for the heating even if the hot tank is calling for heat.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate….. customer wanted this set up as it’s doing a full heating system aswell so made sense

[@triax7006]

The electric will heat the water faster & feed the cylinder & it's pressurised meaning you gain efficiency as the higher the pressure the more heat per KW of electricity (higher pressure = higher temperature). Also no problems with the immersion heater elements going - albeit it means the coil in the electric boiler doing more work & could fail faster. Also as the heating side of the boiler would not be used in the summer it means it would be wasted, whereas as as it is it will be supplying hot water even in summer.

[@owsi2297]

Great video mate👏

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy

[@aquaengineering]

This position of the pressure gauge under the boiler will further create conditions for an air bubble, and its readings may not be correct. Otherwise, everything is very nice and neat.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

It’s just a visual gauge to aid filling as said in the video buddy, there is a digital readout on the boiler (that won’t get air in😉)…… not that big an issue to be honest..

[@sammyb99]

Brymec for fittings buddy they make and supply them cuts out middle man we use them all time

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@steveday7510]

Steve the Sparky - New subscriber love your videos

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy…. Welcome aboard

[@CoolMusicToMyEars]

Electric boiler is good if you have solar PV & go Off-Grid with batteries, I was told by Octopus 🐙 Energy if you have a smart meter you can save by Not using electricity on peak times, as they have a hot water tank they can charge that up Off-peak times👍I know Victron Energy make nice reliable Solar PV systems

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

This has solar now

[@painterman8863]

Look Nice mate ,very neat. Press fit looks a bit cumbersome to me (I am not a plumber, leave to people who know👍)compared to solderimg. How do you know what joint has been done, Mark ? I would have to be putting a mark on it mate. Especially has I can't remember what I did 5 min ago😢😢.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I always press them as I go along…. Same as soldering, I’ve always done it as it goes in. Some fittings have a seal that only comes off when it’s been pressed

[@user-vo6ee9cf6y]

Great video mark 👍🏻

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate…Glad you enjoyed it

[@mattcole6230]

How come you didn't put the expansion connection into the inlet group port?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

No real reason tbh…..👍🏼

[@CelebDigest]

Well explained

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate

[@The_Dua]

Can't wait to see the break down on costs for a job like this probably an extra £50 worth of fittings vs end feed. Less mess less effort i probably start using mine now.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yep I can see the pros and cons of both solder and press

[@charlieforde8886]

Impressed with the work 👌

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate

[@reliabill87]

Can you not show how you wired up the hewting system? That would be the mosy important part

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

The cylinder was pre wired and the sparkies did all the other work…..

[@Macrobish]

Sorry, don’t like press fit. Never used it but I don’t like the look of it or the idea of squeezing the thing together - seems dodgy! How do you disassemble? I’d rather use push fit to save time

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Give it a try before saying you don’t like it…. I was dead against it 12 months ago but I’m using it to show you all what it’s like

[@pauladriandavies3840]

Push fit are ok but and are for amateurs , Then when the ceiling comes in your insurance company will not pay out .I have been using press fit for 30 years having been introduced to it in Germany.I have used this up to 105 mm . Do your due diligence. And you will not set anyone’s house on fire using a gas torch.( Paul ,Paramount plumbing )59years in the trade all over the World on multi million jobs. G

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@delboy6384]

Push fit for amateurs? I will show what an amateur is.

[@pauladriandavies3840]

@@MJTiffPlumbing Great install Marky Mark. Looks great and good to see you are getting used to it. I have a major heating refurb on a school starting on the 24th. All in carbon steel and using pressfit. As no naked flames or sparks .

[@SteveHit1]

A very interesting video - thanks. I think you did a neat job with the press fittings. That house must draw some electrical power now! Hopefully they have solar and battery!

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Solar going in soon

[@billysalter8734]

Hi nice job pal I got press fit but still I prefer soldered fittings as I think looks better and tighter joints but press is good when you got bit of water in pipe and so on 👍

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I agree with you completely mate

[@richardwalker6417]

Enjoyed this, and must say the pressfit is doing well. That pipework once all done and in place is looking pretty sexy. Magaclense/magnaclean something a competent Diy'er can install? Looks reasonably straight forward.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy 👌🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@joshmobbs2445]

Good practice to mark ur fittings

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yep that’s why I do👍🏼👍🏼

[@glyndavies591]

Tidy job again Mark will be interesting to see if the electric boiler is cheaper than oil has the property got solar panels

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Oh it will be mate…. That’s for sure!!!!

[@tirvplumbing]

Good install Mark 👍. Be interesting to see what the initial outlay and running costs are on that electric boiler. Could be a good one to pair up with renewables. Good to see the thought process involved in press, all being well I'll be there myself one day after college 😊

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy…. This the whole set up fitted was around £4k….including me, sparky and all the materials….. will be waiting to see the running costs in real time

[@EverydayLife621]

@@MJTiffPlumbing It would be brilliant to have feedback on the running costs in winter : I have exactly the same dilemma for a house just near you (CV37) with only electric / kero 28 (with a 20 yr old boiler)

[@garyredfern5303]

Yes to the press. Looks really good. Would be interested to know how much energy that electric boiker uses compaired to there old oil or the equivalent in gas. 👍👍

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Will be finding out soon 👍🏼👍🏼

[@fiercefix]

7 k a year electrical bill here we come. Unless they have some other plan . This is like using a petrol generator to top up an electric vehicle battery. Insanity! Nice pipework & quick at it.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

You will be MASSIVELY surprised when I do an update video as to what they are using 😉👍🏼

[@richardsedorski1206]

Great vid running costs will be interesting has the customer got solar panels.👍👍👍😎😎😎

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

They will be going in tail end of the year

[@sunnybeachwalks4k2022]

Lovely Job

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate

[@deano-qj9tj]

Nice neat install, just wondering if you think there is any energy usage difference between using the boiler on a s plan as you done or using the boiler for heating only and using the immersion heaters for hot water

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy…… to be honest I would say it’s cheaper to run it as an s plan

[@JDHIB]

Hi mate just wondering how comes you skip the parts of you installing the pipe work. I know it's more time consuming but not everyone can learn on site so just wondering if you do and keep them separate or what's the deal is really

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Just the way I filmed this job, some jobs I show more like the latest house renovation one

[@JDHIB]

@@MJTiffPlumbing okay cheers ill have a look thank you💯👑

[@michaeltyler3638]

What’s the hot flow rate like in the house with a 15mm cold feed Mark? Do they need to plan taking a bath?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

12litres a minute at all outlets 👌🏼👌🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@MHandP]

Looks like this cylinders coil return is before the heating return. The coil return should be the last T back to the boiler

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

It’s a pre-plumbed cylinder mate…👍🏼

[@michaelbolt4530]

Im trying to fathom the pipe schematic for that system, fascinating video

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Fairly straight forward…. Pause it and you will work it out👍🏼👍🏼

[@user-ju1zd5dt2g]

The noise the press fit gun makes would drive me mad. Mark the potable water expansion vessel does not pressurise the system or force any water out, it’s role is take up the expansion of the water when it is heated, as the system is sealed the expanding water needs to go somewhere

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I know that buddy…… that’s why it’s called an expansion vessel👍🏼👍🏼….. Sometimes when your filming you get the odd word mixed up…..

[@multiworx]

I swear i have just watched an upload from Petrol Ped about living with an Audi RS3, and you were sat in front of him about 12mins into it?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Indeed you would……. 😉😉 If you listen to there Podcast you will hear a bit more about me aswell😉…… You will be surprised who I know😝

[@jkplumbs]

Who do you register the unvented cylinder through? Because it's not gas or oil heat source you can't register it through gas safe or oftec. Which governing body do you use?... kind regards John....

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

NAPIT and I can sign it off as I have my G3 Unvented…… otherwise just get a local building inspector out and they can do it if your not part of a governing body👍🏼👍🏼

[@martinwright7093]

I don’t know a way of doing it. Building control aren’t interested in my area, I’m GasSafe registered but that’s no good, not NAPIT registered so basically if can’t be done but ultimately, who cares…

[@adrianhoneybill8591]

Be useful to hear about the running costs over a 12 month period.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yer hopefully I will be able to find out

[@killerbean9911]

I can see you're still not 100% convinced on the press but I'm glad you're being honest about it as always nice little installed that, I've been told you can't have a 15mm cold feed feeding a unvented cylinder, is that true? (not got g3 so no idea myself)

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

MI say you can on this….. also it’s not feeding balanced cold

[@killerbean9911]

@@MJTiffPlumbing Yeah no problem, just I requested one be installed once and the guy told me that he couldn't unless it was 25mm mdpe and 22mm feed into the cylinder I was confused as hell :P Cheers man, great video as always

[@MrAbe8]

What’s the prices for something like this.?

[@migsteele]

If it wasn’t for the cost of electricity vs gas, these boilers would be everywhere. They’re simple, cheap, don’t have to worry about explosive gases or venting off exhaust. Maybe with solar and batteries this might be a better solution than a heat pump… Of course a heat pump would be more efficient, but given an electric boiler is 1/10th the cost, better to put that extra in solar and batteries and offset your usage with cheap night time electricity.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Solar going in to this job very soon😉

[@triax7006]

Kind of makes a mockery of the CO2 debate doesn't it? If climate change was an actual issue then they would make gas the same price as electric & people would ditch all gas supply from their homes especially as electric is 100% efficient with regard to heating & yet they are burning gas to generate electricity.

[@b1h2u3p4]

Nice job

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy

[@CoolMusicToMyEars]

Crimping is OK But maybe a nightmare to remove ? especially in a narrow space, the other thing you NEED is power to charge batteries for that crimper, so No electric on site back to compression or Yorkshire fittings, I'm not a plumber by trade, although plumb in a kitchen bathroom >25 years ago, my trade is aerospace - defence hardware verification qualification engineer, electronics mechanical hardware, inpressed with the electric boiler, will the pipes be lagged as an outside unit from main house?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Charge the batteries and it’s not an issue…. They last ages

[@allencowe9446]

Great video again. Ive been using press fit for around 10 years. Only recently ive gone back to soldering now and again, recently 54mm heating piprwork for a hotel boiler house, but ive only soldered thete due to cost of the larger peess tool and jaws. Have a good week matey.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks buddy….. yep I’m starting to get used to the press

[@MrBridles]

Are you going to do a follow up?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

In what way?

[@MrBridles]

@@MJTiffPlumbing on how it runs is it cheap, can you tie it into solar panels?

[@paulhughes8724]

More like wait until all the orings start leaking😊

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Tried and tested over the last 20years….. not really an issue

[@paulhughes8724]

@@MJTiffPlumbing Yeah of course they have

[@dereksimpson4778]

hows the running costs for the electric bioler i believe they are very expensive to run, had any feedback from the customer ? Nice video though well explained

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate, they have said it’s a lot cheaper than the oil fired combi boiler they had in

[@dereksimpson4778]

@@MJTiffPlumbing right ok but i guess compared to gas they are more expensive, thanks for the reply

[@Magdalene777]

What is the operating cost of the boiler vs individual electric resistance heaters?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

That’s a whole other video

[@Magdalene777]

@@MJTiffPlumbing do you have a video for that?

[@bordersw1239]

Exactly the same cost to run.

[@jasonbrooksbank]

You have stopped marking your fitting up. What's the difference in cost.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Nope…. Still marking them, may miss the odd one. Will be doing a video about time and costs very soon

[@peterharper3317]

Did they need a 3 phase upgrade for the boiler

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

No mate

[@jackgadsden456]

Hi mark , Have you not see the jaws that you press with the jaws on the gun ?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Angle jaws….. yep, they are on order

[@jackgadsden456]

@@MJTiffPlumbing can’t wait to see them in action ! 👍🏻

[@robbo6767]

Hi I think the press fittings do look good on a job like that but under a kitchen sink where room can be tight and a lot going on sometimes can look a bit messy so can see you not ditching the blowlamp just yet. as i was watching i was thinking do you need the electric boiler to heat the water would it have been better to use a direct cylinder as your using electric to heat water to heat the cylinder anyway? (please don't take as a criticism)

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yep I know what you mean…. Could of had Direct but as the boiler was going in anyway it made sense to do it this way👍🏼👍🏼

[@henryeadie7972]

Do you have to lag all that pipework or does it only apply to new builds?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Yer it’s all lagged now…..

[@staciesims9339]

The best thing you can do with a firebird boiler is rip it out, horrendous things , there is some value in the burner though

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Exactly what happened

[@staciesims9339]

Love your work btw always pride in your work

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Thanks mate, appriciate that👍🏼👍🏼

[@user-dw1ts4xu9p]

Once it pressed can you twist it round

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

No mate it’s locked solid

[@ads7468]

Can i ask electric boiler with immersion water tank or gas boiler efficiency?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

So many things to take into account to be honest mate

[@johnnyfandango1625]

An electric setup will not usually save money unless you have a PV and battery setup. One Litre of oil at say 60 pence per L gives 10KWh of heat. One kWh of electric gives 1 kWh of heat at say 40 pence. The oil setup will be say 90 % efficient where the electric is 100% efficient. The electric setup will cost significantly more to run. Time will tell.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Indeed it will…. A month in and it’s saving him money so it’s working for him

[@peterharper3317]

What happens if a press fit leaks

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Same as if a soldered joint leaks

[@kamsubhani8565]

Great video. Just curious which boiler cost more to run, Electric or Gas. Im assuming electric because of the cost per unit or Kwh.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I would assume electric aswell…. However this customer does not have gas in and was using oil

[@tomplumb7754]

A well setup condensing oil boiler when you look at cost per KWh and efficiency. Direct electricity is great when used directly!

[@Jeff-bg7pt]

Two 5' old told me the very same 😅

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

👍🏼

[@Saminavloginuk]

Same problem my home no hot witer no heating

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Hope you get it sorted

[@Saminavloginuk]

You from uk ​@@MJTiffPlumbing

[@Saminavloginuk]

5 man com my home but no fix

[@carltaylor621]

No expansion vessel or prv on heating circuit

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

If you listen and watch the video you will hear that the expansion vessel and PRV is in the boiler……

[@dw_plumbheat]

Lovely job pal, is that your blow-lamp ive seen for sale on ebay?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Hahahahah…… press is the Next Big Ting apparently

[@gasrite.]

Bet it was a nightmare lagging all that pipe work

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Tricky is how I like to say it….🤣🤣

[@gasrite.]

@@MJTiffPlumbing 😂🤣😂

[@user-dw1ts4xu9p]

Expensive machine

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Now coupled up with solar so it’s working well for him

[@Paulo-fr3xm]

hi buddy, just dropped on your video, i am at the point where my old gas boiler has pretty much died. The gas main is being renewed in the st. I am thinking about having it disconnected, save on a gas standing charge. To fit an electric boiler, but don't know much about these. Any thoughts??

[@triax7006]

I am in the same position. Gas boiler finally packed up & thinking of an electric combi & as I only have 5 radiators & no need for a bath as a shower can be supplied via the combi with the option of an electric shower fitted as well it seems ditching gas would be apt. They do cost more to run, however no need for servicing as regards to the gas & if the gas was ditched saving on the standard charge as you also pointed out. The only downside would be no heat or hot water if there was a power cut, not been an issue but it is nice to have the alternative just in case but not a deal breaker.

[@grimawormtongue2014]

Hi, did you get the electric boiler? And did you get your gas disconnected?

[@Paulo-fr3xm]

@@grimawormtongue2014 hi, well long story really, they stopped replacing the gas main in the st and disappeared and not been back since. No information, typical shit utility company. Done a lot of research and a conversation with a trade friend. But the numbers just didn't stack up TBH. Boilers were around the same money but electric was 2 years warranty and the A rated gas boiler was 10 year warranty, so no brainer really. Had a whole system revamp in the end. Best move, lovely and warm and saving around £40 a month with the new gas system.

[@geoffcarlton4047]

How quickly do you get a hot flow from the tap? Seems like a long way to travel.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

About 5seconds at the kitchen tap…….. not an issue at all

[@bernieclark7143]

Press fit or push fit you are relying on an o'ring that will perish over time, I used to work for a leak detection company and I have seen several leaks due to failed o'rings,

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

“Several leaks”……. That’s amazing considering that press has been out for 20 plus years….. just goes to show how good it is👍🏼👍🏼

[@GlenS123]

Don't uderstand why you would ever put in an electric boiler. Put in electric radiators and eliminate everything else. Super simple, no need for you. All electric heat is 100% efficient, but pump and controls consume extra power, add lots of complexity.

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

I think electric boilers are very good and work well… they will become very popular soon I think

[@jonathandeibel1]

If you want wet underfloor heating it’s a good method of getting it plus a house with no gas will still need some form of direct hot water

[@nickcollins7568]

A good job that cylinder was empty or you would have been sweating

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

Exactly my point buddy 👍🏼👍🏼

[@ImHowardMoonsir1]

What was the performance of those radiators once heated up vs a gas boiler?

[@MJTiffPlumbing]

To be honest, they were slightly better than the oil fired combi that was in

[@tomplumb7754]

Itll be the same. A kw is a kw wherever it comes from. The difference is how its produced and at what cost. More interesting is why indirectly heat HW with electricity when directly heating the water has no loss across the boiler HEX and the HW coil. Im sorry to say not much thought has gone into this.

[@migsteele]

@@tomplumb7754you can heat the hot water on night time electricity which is cheaper with certain tariffs. So having a heat only electric boiler will actually help as they will save on the hot water. I live in an electric only property and we use a heat battery, charged on cheap night time rates (I use octopus go) and we spend about £7-8 per month for all hot water. All direct electric. For heating we use air conditioning.