Electric piston engine DIY (solenoid motor)

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PeterSripol

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@bananaanxiety8124
@bananaanxiety8124 3 жыл бұрын
This is really cool! I want one now lol. As a side note, on a gasoline I4 engine, cylinders 1&4 and 2&3 are companion cylinders, meaning they move symmetrically if you mirrored the engine between the middle cylinders. This generally makes the engine more balanced from inertia, if anyone was curious. Also, you could get more torque by increasing the throw of the crankshaft (how far from the centerline of the crankshaft the rod journal is). Awesome video!
@alexdelarge4938
@alexdelarge4938 3 жыл бұрын
useless and inefficient and uninteresting motor
@barrettoliver2009
@barrettoliver2009 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexdelarge4938 what?
@bananaanxiety8124
@bananaanxiety8124 3 жыл бұрын
@J M i don't look at motorcycles much, i was just generally referring to the average I4 car engine lol. That's interesting tho. I like at least 6 cylinders personally 😂
@Joel_Junior_cantor
@Joel_Junior_cantor 3 жыл бұрын
And that’s why Diesel engines rev so low too, they have a longer throw, so it has lots of torque but cant rev fast
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: there are basically 2 kinds of V8 engines, on has a cross plan crank, the other has a flat plan. Plan, as in the crank pins. Flat plan is 180° angle longitudinally from one pin to the next, and cross plan is is 90°.
@justinvzu01
@justinvzu01 3 жыл бұрын
The sparking breaks the contacts over time, so I'd recommend using a hall effect sensor and a nut inside the cam. This allows you to change the timing by adjusting the voltage threshold as well.
@samuelmatheson9655
@samuelmatheson9655 Жыл бұрын
Do not nut on the cam
@jessestevens2927
@jessestevens2927 Жыл бұрын
It's the flyback, when the magnetic field collapses it dumps voltage back down the line. Simple diodes across the contacts the right direction arrest this as a short
@cyber_nuggets8302
@cyber_nuggets8302 3 жыл бұрын
I love all the engineering channels on KZbin, they're fun and actually teach you things most people probably wouldn't know otherwise. Like how inefficient this engine is.
@Scyth3934
@Scyth3934 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@Thisismycomment.
@Thisismycomment. 3 жыл бұрын
Smarter everyday, backyard scientist, Peter, and others. Some of my favorite youtubers
@krystal_vector5412
@krystal_vector5412 3 жыл бұрын
The thot bots are out in force it seems 😂
@cyber_nuggets8302
@cyber_nuggets8302 3 жыл бұрын
@@krystal_vector5412 thot bots is how you know your comment was successful
@gojirazillasaurus6341
@gojirazillasaurus6341 3 жыл бұрын
@@cyber_nuggets8302 xd
@stephencresswell4760
@stephencresswell4760 3 жыл бұрын
The in-line four was basically two two cylinder engines connected together. The crankshaft was flat so didn’t take advantage of the four solenoids. Each solenoid should fire on each revolution. So 4 inputs of power at 90°.
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is a big part of the lack of power. If those two cylinders aren't firing at exactly the same point (ie if one crank throw isn't precisely aligned) the two cylinders that are firing are fighting a little so you've really got a 2 cyl engine dragging 2 more cyl. Might explain why it wouldn't self start well too.
@stephencresswell4760
@stephencresswell4760 3 жыл бұрын
@@LanternLabs totally. Needs to get the phasing right and fit a flywheel.
@MmMerrifield
@MmMerrifield 2 жыл бұрын
@@LanternLabs which engines are self starting?
@cuberznl
@cuberznl 11 ай бұрын
@@MmMerrifield selenoids dont need any other stroke to function so if it was cross plane meaning there wouldnt be a dead point it would be self starting. a gas engine isnt self starting because it needs the intake and compression stroke to be able to give any power
@vitor900000
@vitor900000 3 жыл бұрын
Follow those tips and you can drastically improve the performance of a solenoid engine: Change the rod of the solenoid for a magnet rod and you will be able make it push and pull depending on the polarity. This means if you configure your timing to reverse the polarity of your wires you can have power on both the down and up stroke. Due to how responsive the power of a solenoids are when compared with the combustion of a IC engine it will probably be better if you configure the trigger timing of the solenoids 1° to 5° degrees after TDC/BDC to prevent what would be considered "Pre-ignition" or "engine knocking" on a IC engine. "Pre-ignition" is when a engine start the power stroke before TDC causing it to send power to run the engine on reverse loosing a lot of power and risking damaging components. You may also want to add a flywheel so you can operate it at very low power/speed. The flywheel stored momentum will keep it from stalling when it reach TDC/BDC. Another option would be to use a crossplane crankshaft to smooth the power delivery.
@Crlarl
@Crlarl 3 жыл бұрын
Reversing the polarity on a solenoid does not reverse the direction. This is why they can also work with AC.
@vitor900000
@vitor900000 3 жыл бұрын
@Professor Frog If you want efficiency get a engine from Tesla motor... This is a fun project and it would be cool to push it to its limits to see how far it can go.
@worthypook
@worthypook 3 жыл бұрын
I believe these solenoids only have a pull. If there was a magnet on the cylinder then it could have a push and a pull.
@vitor900000
@vitor900000 3 жыл бұрын
@@Crlarl Ahhhh... What? Pls watch. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6u6fpahgpmFY8U AC solenoids are designed differently from DC solenoids. In a AC solenoid a ring is installed in the coil to a store magnetic field energy and release it with a 90 degree phase difference. So yes reversing the polarity of a AC solenoid would not reverse its direction but that is not true for a DC solenoid.
@vitor900000
@vitor900000 3 жыл бұрын
@@worthypook DC solenoids do push and pull depending on the polarity. AC solenoids only push or pull.
@StephanieElizabethMann
@StephanieElizabethMann 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. It doesn't matter that it doesn't run as well as you would like so far. It matters that you built it and it did work.
@JoelCreates
@JoelCreates 3 жыл бұрын
Now hook up the crankshaft to a regular DC motor, run the wires to the solenoids and boom, free electricity!
@PeterSripol
@PeterSripol 3 жыл бұрын
*elon musk would like to know your location
@darrenwilliams414
@darrenwilliams414 3 жыл бұрын
@@PeterSripol there's no such thing as free energy ask electro boom
@jasongrim2027
@jasongrim2027 3 жыл бұрын
@@darrenwilliams414 wooooooosh
@disgruntledegghead6923
@disgruntledegghead6923 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we don't have the intelligence nor the elements to create perpetual motion. Nevermind perpetual motion that has any real use. Like these solenoid "motors"...
@roblesterjr04
@roblesterjr04 3 жыл бұрын
Two words; diminishing returns.
@bigrenegade7121
@bigrenegade7121 3 жыл бұрын
Two things to help with the solenoids. First, you need to keep the shafts/cylinders lubricated to reduce friction. Second, you need to find a way to cool the solenoids. As the shafts heat up the metal expand and will cause additional friction and finally reach the point where it "seizes" up. A fan could be used for cooling
@A.Mere.Creator
@A.Mere.Creator 3 жыл бұрын
it would be awesome if you put a v8 solenoid engine in an RC car
@T1Ledlie
@T1Ledlie 3 жыл бұрын
It would sound so awesome
@aidenfenton8941
@aidenfenton8941 3 жыл бұрын
Or he made 3 v8’s and put them inside of a titanic model
@dazednconfused31337
@dazednconfused31337 3 жыл бұрын
Search YT for: Tiny Ferrari
@nexiussuixen7078
@nexiussuixen7078 3 жыл бұрын
Did you mean like this mini boat as fast jetboat with v8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jneqh6uDmJmparc
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 3 жыл бұрын
or aV16
@polcat79
@polcat79 3 жыл бұрын
You remind me of myself when I was a youngster in the 80's. I had to use my imagination on a daily basis making things and breaking things apart to build something completely different to occupy our time with. It's nice to see people still using there imaginations to create.
@roboman2444
@roboman2444 3 жыл бұрын
You need separate timing switches and the solenoids phased 90* apart from eachother for smoothness. Also adjustable timing will be useful.
@stephencresswell4760
@stephencresswell4760 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Four inputs of power per revolution.
@klugshicer
@klugshicer 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same. You have to model it after a 4cyl 2stroke engine, not a 4cyl 4 stroke engine.
@stephencresswell4760
@stephencresswell4760 3 жыл бұрын
@@klugshicer yep. No need for the compression or exhaust stroke.
@fryncyaryorvjink2140
@fryncyaryorvjink2140 3 жыл бұрын
Vtec
@evilcanofdrpepper
@evilcanofdrpepper 2 жыл бұрын
I conquer
@shelbybrunhoeber2576
@shelbybrunhoeber2576 2 жыл бұрын
Ideas: the crank arms need to be 90 degrees offset with each other instead of 180 like you have it. It will run much smoother, and you won't have to flick it to get it to start. Also, make the crank arms longer to yield more torque. As long as the solenoids have enough travel
@FractalNinja
@FractalNinja Жыл бұрын
I was thinking this as well. I also wondered if toroidal turbine 3D print would take advantage of that extra torque and help turn it into speed
@AlainHubert
@AlainHubert Жыл бұрын
A flywheel might help also...
@generalprincecodyhedgewolf2944
@generalprincecodyhedgewolf2944 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention a Starter crank
@mtacoustic1
@mtacoustic1 3 жыл бұрын
You can make a 'two-stroke' out of your electric engine by adding a second switch opposite the first (may also need a second cam); so you can push as well as pull the 'pistons' in the solenoids.
@Sekir80
@Sekir80 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, no need of a second cam. Clever placement of the switch is fine enough to activate the 'push' arrangement after the 'pull' about 180° after it.
@TheStuartstardust
@TheStuartstardust 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but as the is a 2-stroke equivalent, you could have 90° deg offset on each cylinder and better low end torque delivery.
@limpy4707
@limpy4707 3 жыл бұрын
Could it be called a +1 stroke?? since you can rig it to push and pull every stroke..
@TheStuartstardust
@TheStuartstardust 3 жыл бұрын
@@limpy4707 haha - yes, but you stil need 90 deg apart cylinders. Perhaps make it a 3 cylinder and 120° deg apart, then arrange the coils in delta, and use regular brushless controller. Jobs done 🤓😄💪
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 3 жыл бұрын
Its kind of a 2 stroke already, every cylinder fires on every down stroke. The idea of power on the upstroke comes from steam engines and I think is called a "double acting" arrangement, or something like that.
@mattfrances3747
@mattfrances3747 3 жыл бұрын
The inductance of the solenoids is probably making those high-voltage spikes in the switch each cycle. When you increase the load on the solenoids by moving the prop in water, it was probably increasing the current through the solenoids and exacerbating the effect. If you can, maybe look into putting some diodes across the solenoid terminals in the reverse direction of polarity, so the current has a path to dissipate. Additional zener diodes will increase the voltage drop and should dissipate the energy faster. Not an expert though, ask ElectroBOOM
@cardenassolisrodrigo2601
@cardenassolisrodrigo2601 2 жыл бұрын
And instead of using that mechanical switch to switch the solenoids, he could use that mechanical switch to switch on and off transistors, one for each solenoid, so all the high current from the solenoids are controlled by transistors instead of the switch, so no big sparks that can burn out the switch.
@gresvig2507
@gresvig2507 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool design. Honestly, though, I think two areas can improve things greatly-- and optical or magnetic trigger and transistor switching (those reeds have got to be bouncing all over, fast action isn't their strong suit) and some center bearings. I think a lot of power is just going to warping that noodle of a crank back and forth. Hope you get it flying!
@Crlarl
@Crlarl 3 жыл бұрын
By electronically commutating the solenoids, reversing direction would be easy.
@diogoafonsoyt
@diogoafonsoyt 3 жыл бұрын
World's First Praying Mantis taking a Flight on a Drone: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXyXhpaLn9NnaZI
@rjhornsby
@rjhornsby 3 жыл бұрын
I can barely tie my own shoes when it comes to electrical circuit design - so I could be completely wrong. From watching South Main Auto and his explanations of tone ring for ABS, crank position sensor etc, I kept wondering if a Hall effect sensor in place of the microswitch would make sense. The microswitch spring can only return so fast, the arcing is probably introducing a significant amount of resistance in no small part because it’s in the direct drive path? The arcing will also pit and heat the metal contacts, depositing carbon (more resistance) until something wears out or the contacts simply fuse together. I remember as a kid trying to “drive” a relay at high speed - and while not fully understanding, ran into problems like these.
@locke_ytb
@locke_ytb 2 жыл бұрын
These experimentation videos are always my favourite. Found one again.
@DatBoiOrly
@DatBoiOrly 3 жыл бұрын
i'd honestly love to see a pt 2 to this using more powerful magnets and higher wrapped coils and more cylinders i think the major problems with your design is the size of the magnets and cooling and the firing order love to see a pt 2 of this
@tjkoker
@tjkoker 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Peter, I'm a product of Youngstown, Ohio but now live in sunny Southern California. I understand the gripe on Ohio weather, but nowhere in California can you find a shed and land like the spread you and your friend have to play on. The 8 foot snow drifts are a bummer, but there are great things about the great state of Ohio. I miss it dearly and may make my way back to the more southern reaches like Cincinnati. Great video, once again. Cheers and Merry Christmas!
@joenagel6644
@joenagel6644 3 жыл бұрын
Something that may help you, solenoids tend to hang once you turn power off, which may be robbing some power from your motor. I would try to time it to swap solenoids a bit before top dead center and see if that helps. Also, possibly try something like an arduino to time all 4 solenoids separately so that each solenoid pulls roughly 90 degrees to get a full 360 degrees worth of “Power stroke”. Would love to see this actually work!
@th5045
@th5045 3 жыл бұрын
Im not going to lie you are by far the coolest KZbinr.
@ahmadashoori5988
@ahmadashoori5988 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a larger flywheel would have helped, it'd also be cool to see if increasing complexity with more switches and more degrees on the axle would increase the power. Great vid, ive always wanted to see the application of solenoid engines
@atrumluminarium
@atrumluminarium 3 жыл бұрын
A larger flywheel and maybe a "chord ignition" (like a lawn mower) to set it going
@davidpurves2099
@davidpurves2099 3 жыл бұрын
and timing like 5deg ADC
@zackdarpinian9980
@zackdarpinian9980 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Peter, I'm sure it was mentioned somewhere already, but you can actually get 2x the power if you intentionally flip the polarity of the solenoids on their "return" stroke. The "dumbest" way to do this would be to have the switch control a DPDT (2 pole 2 throw) relay, where the relay is actually in charge of the power switching.
@duncancremin1708
@duncancremin1708 Жыл бұрын
Not with regular solenoids, you can’t. The soft iron used for the plungers will pull in, regardless of polarity. You’d have to use permanent magnets as the plunger, to achieve the effect you describe. The trouble with that is, because of the repeated reversal of flux, the permanent magnets wouldn’t be all that permanent. The effect would be a crude AC degausser and would demagnetise them, quickly resulting in a stalled motor with the plunger permanently in the coil.
@sjoer
@sjoer 3 жыл бұрын
If you use more than two solenoids, you need to offset them on the crank by 45 degrees to get more work out of them! Also makes switching them slightly more complicated, but doable! So when one solenoid is halfway through the push, another fires.
@millenkovic
@millenkovic 3 жыл бұрын
90 degrees would be best with 4 solenoids
@sjoer
@sjoer 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt it
@millenkovic
@millenkovic 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I'm just theorizing, but maybe someone will actually build both models and test them out. I still believe that the most efficient 4 strokes engine would be with 90 degrees offset between solenoids at the shaft. That would cover all 360 degrees of the shaft rotation with active pulling force, each solenoid will partly overlap with the next one (and previous one also).
@elitoma2237
@elitoma2237 3 жыл бұрын
what a cool video i am going to school to me a mechanic and this has got to be the most weird but cool engine i have seen so far
@jeffdillingham2999
@jeffdillingham2999 3 жыл бұрын
"Drunken Sailor", perfect choice of music 😊
@unironicaluser1867
@unironicaluser1867 3 жыл бұрын
how was this posted 5 hours ago
@Alsifnrbdvehrj
@Alsifnrbdvehrj 3 жыл бұрын
@@unironicaluser1867 released early for members probably
@Wiejeben
@Wiejeben 3 жыл бұрын
Patreon
@jeffdillingham2999
@jeffdillingham2999 3 жыл бұрын
@@unironicaluser1867 Yep, Peter's Patreon supporters get early access to his videos 😁
@shuntawolf
@shuntawolf 3 жыл бұрын
A summary of the material used, bed temp, nozzle temp and speeds would be cool for those of us EXTREMELY new to using 3D printers, you know, all the settings yall know by heart but us new folks don't have a clue with... Cool vid man.... very cool
@tabeebrahman4843
@tabeebrahman4843 3 жыл бұрын
You could have another switch attatched to the cam 180 to the first switch which connects the coils to power in a reverse polarity and attach permanent magnets to the “piston” and get nearly a fully powered stroke
@Crlarl
@Crlarl 3 жыл бұрын
With simple solenoids, that is not possible. The polarity of the power does not change the direction. For that you would need push-pull solenoids which use a permanent magnet instead of steel rod.
@tabeebrahman4843
@tabeebrahman4843 3 жыл бұрын
@@Crlarl i said you would need a permanent magnet instead of a steel rod
@Crlarl
@Crlarl 3 жыл бұрын
@@tabeebrahman4843 Yes you did. I misread your comment. Sorry.
@tabeebrahman4843
@tabeebrahman4843 3 жыл бұрын
@@Crlarl no worries
@tedrice1026
@tedrice1026 3 жыл бұрын
On early 4 cylinder gasoline engines, they used heavy flywheels to increase torque and smooth out the output. Heavy flywheels help torque but not horsepower. The alternative soon used was to increase the number of cylinders and decrease the weight of the flywheel. Some cars got up to 16 cylinders in the early days. Bore and stroke also figure in. A larger bore and shorter stroke give faster acceleration, a smaller bore and longer stroke give better pulling power. More horsepower gives faster acceleration and higher sustained speed, more torque gives more pulling power. Which you use depends on what you are planning to do. Farm tractors and heavy equipment usually use long strokes and heavy flywheels, race cars use more short-stroke cylinders. I expect these things will also hold true for a solenoid engine. Anyway, a large diameter, fairly heavy flywheel will help keep your boat engine turning over.
@gregsavige3587
@gregsavige3587 2 жыл бұрын
Another interesting video I smiled the whole way through. You could hide a small motor in the mechanisim and fool your mates. Good stuff. I love your channel.
@555propow
@555propow 2 жыл бұрын
If you turn the solenoid on 90 to 100 degrees before top dead center (TDC) and off10 degrees before TDC it wont effect the output torque but it will more than half your watt usage and really lower the coil heat. Some of the comments had different switching suggestions which I agree , that type of switch gets less accurate as the RPM goes up. Even running that switch to trigger a transistor works better but a hall or optical works the best
@davidmolin8944
@davidmolin8944 3 жыл бұрын
This is reminding me of those small Sterling engines but less powerful. I'm sure if you stuck like 12 of them inside or build a gearbox to convert it to have a faster speed it would run more efficiently either way I love to see you try to make a plane out of this
@TheEndPhase
@TheEndPhase 3 жыл бұрын
You made what's called a single-plane or flat-plane crank shaft configuration. A cross-plane crank would increase your perceived torque by spreading all 4 power strokes evenly over one revolution. Currently, that thing has two double power stokes at opposite sides of a single revolution, creating big dips ans spikes in torque/power. In general, I think solenoids like these are great analogs for playing with crank configurations. It will be interesting to see what configuration actually turns out to be the most efficient. :D Also, the cold is probably exacerbating a friction issue caused by your connecting rod configuration. The solenoid, uhh, pistons, I guess you'd call them appear to be experiencing excessive torsional loading with respect to the direction of the stroke which would make them want to jam during their return strokes. The crank configuration I already mentioned would remedy this somewhat as well. I'm an engineer by merit and trade. I love this stuff. :D Also, also, you gotta put those layers on and learn to love the dreary, frigid, gray, dead expanse of wasteland that is Ohio in the colder 2/3's of the year man! I live in NE Ohio, and it totally sucks until you learn to enjoy mother nature's surely side. Come on up when the "nice" winter weather gets rolling and I'll show you the most scenic snowshoeing locals the state has to offer.
@x9x9x9x9x9
@x9x9x9x9x9 3 жыл бұрын
I have always wondered if this would work and how well and have never seen one of the videos mentioned. Awesome work as always.
@unironicaluser1867
@unironicaluser1867 3 жыл бұрын
how wa thi posted 22 hours ago
@Alsifnrbdvehrj
@Alsifnrbdvehrj 3 жыл бұрын
@@unironicaluser1867 prob posted to members early
@x9x9x9x9x9
@x9x9x9x9x9 3 жыл бұрын
@@unironicaluser1867 patreon
@MangeurDePoulet
@MangeurDePoulet 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really nice way to practice and play with mechanic and motor with the advantage of not having to deal with fuel and combustion engine stuff
@garchompy_1561
@garchompy_1561 3 жыл бұрын
could you use a second solenoid below the existing one to pull back the "piston" giving it 2 pulls per piston per rotation? (sort of like cycling with clips so you can pull the pedal up as well as push it down) theres no doubt a lot of efficiency gains you can make by changing the rest of the engine since things like firing order make a huge impact to engines like this. iirc 6 and 12 cylinder engines are considered the "best" when it comes to overall engine balance, although im not sure how fast an engine has to run before that becomes an issue, but you might as well give it all the help it can get lmao
@Crlarl
@Crlarl 3 жыл бұрын
You could add "reverse" solenoids but it would be easier to use push-pull solenoids which can change the direction by itself.
@jayeff7900
@jayeff7900 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool! Here's a simple mod for your engine design: I bet you're having problems with the big arcs welding your little mechanical switch contacts together. The arcs are being generated by the back-EMF discharge induced by the solenoid coils when they're turned off. Simply connect a general-purpose 400v silicon diode in reverse across your mechanical switch and it'll get rid of the big arcs and save your microswitches. Those diodes cost about a dime brand-new, and can be scrapped out of old electronics for free, so it's definitely cheap insurance for your microswitches. If you want to continue optimizing your solenoid engine, here's a few ideas to try: Instead of switching all of that current through that little mechanical switch, use the mechanical switch to turn on and off MOSFETs or general-purpose BJT transistors, and let the silicon move the current through the solenoids. Be sure to use diodes to protect the transistors or MOSFETs from the back-EMF induced by the solenoid coils since that can Zap your silicon. Or, if you Really want to get fancy, build your own solenoids with permanent magnets as the plungers and use an H-bridge circuit to both 'push' and 'pull' the solenoid instead of only relying on the 'pull' stroke for power. Finally, you can use optical or Hall-effect sensors to replace the mechanical switch when you get the silicon circuits working. So Yeah, I absolutely Can see you making that little electric piston motor a Lot better if you wanted to continue to experiment with it. Maybe even making it fly? Fingers crossed!
@electrosync
@electrosync 3 жыл бұрын
Love the sound the motor makes. It's almost like clockwork!
@lubormrazek5545
@lubormrazek5545 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to see a fellow solenoid engine lover
@dylanyates6331
@dylanyates6331 3 жыл бұрын
I know I'm one of many, but I have some suggestions from gas engines: 1. Add an identical lobe on your camshaft 180 degrees from the other. This will make it a two stroke, with double the powerstrokes per rpm (unless you did that, can't really tell) 2. Increase your tolerances on everything that spins. There's a good chance that it didn't work in the cold because the tolerances were reduced, causing more friction. Also oil it with a thin lubricant like tool oil 3. Retarding the timing gives better low end power. For the low torque you're making, this may be necessary
@MmMerrifield
@MmMerrifield 2 жыл бұрын
It's already 2-stroke though.
@xFajitas1
@xFajitas1 3 жыл бұрын
The title made my head hurt until I saw the first 5 seconds of the video . Looks pretty cool and fun to play with .
@SimpleElectronics
@SimpleElectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I can't wait to see the improvements you'll make for the flight ready one - I wonder if rod bearings would add too much weight to be counter-productive
@zenithblack2823
@zenithblack2823 2 жыл бұрын
Dc vs Ac. If can get your solenoid to work on Ac, keep your voltage low, amps high and use electrical frequency to control the speed. Good work I enjoyed your video. 😊
@mnatilli9161
@mnatilli9161 3 жыл бұрын
I reckon if your gonna make a solenoid airplane then you should attempt multiple engine designs, including using a radial engine. I think that would be cool.
@Cyan2002
@Cyan2002 3 жыл бұрын
Came here to suggest a radial engine for the plane 👍
@mnatilli9161
@mnatilli9161 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cyan2002 great minds think alike
@turbomaximal5940
@turbomaximal5940 3 жыл бұрын
This guy should work at Tesla very intelligent we need more guys like this to help influence the young people
@finn_hopkins59
@finn_hopkins59 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter! I love your videos keep up the great work!
@inspiration7311
@inspiration7311 3 жыл бұрын
hello I'm from Indonesia🇮🇩, I really like your content, I hope you can upload videos more often on KZbin
@austinkuipers6087
@austinkuipers6087 3 жыл бұрын
It'd be neat to substitute a balance shaft on an unbalanced ICE configuration for some kind of generator. Modulating feedback could allow for engine developers to actively control the damping characteristics of the conventional balance shaft while reaping back some of what otherwise is a small but necessary parasitic loss.
@tomtompkins6779
@tomtompkins6779 Жыл бұрын
Cool concept as usual. Finally detailed craftsmanship. Of course you're taking all of the inefficiencies of an ice engine. Too many moving parts, power loss from friction and heat and building them into the electric motor which is the most efficient use of energy. There is at this point. But I have to admit it is very cool
@salmonsoup15
@salmonsoup15 2 жыл бұрын
Most normal boat in Ohio:
@Mynameisajokeforexjwpandatower
@Mynameisajokeforexjwpandatower 7 ай бұрын
How is this top comment
@adamgardiner5869
@adamgardiner5869 3 жыл бұрын
2:32 "Purely stupid and mechanical and cool" is the most accurate description for this channel I can think of.
@thatguybrody4819
@thatguybrody4819 2 жыл бұрын
there is a pretty small chance you'll actually see this, but if you do, maybe you could try putting a Ram Air Turbine on your fliers so that battery life will be less of a problem as they'll be constantly be getting power. it might not work on your RC planes but your ultralights and possibly your homemade paraglider could work with one.
@kcjdelanoit
@kcjdelanoit 3 жыл бұрын
To extract the most power you will wanna balance all the rotating bits, and lube up any bits that are metal on metal/plastic on plastic. Should help with the vibration issues and for the torque issue just change the gear ratio from the motor to propeller. Ik this was just for the memes but hope to see more of things like this!!!
@guerrillaradio9953
@guerrillaradio9953 3 жыл бұрын
You need a 90 degree throw crankshaft. Your engine is basically a 2 stroke (fires every revolution not every other), and the 90 degree crank will give you 4 discreet firing pulses, a much smoother run, and not be "fighting itself" so much. If the solenoids get hot really fast, that's a good clue that your timing is way off. Add to that the fighting itself, and you'll have that result.
@patrickhurley7029
@patrickhurley7029 2 жыл бұрын
Peter Sripol Man of the People
@ayuse01
@ayuse01 3 жыл бұрын
Peter, now make one with double acting solenoids, energized them on the upward and downward stroke by reversing their voltage polarity accordingly. You will double the strength, and the heat lol Also, make it three cylinders, spaced at 120 degree from each other axially. And control the three phases voltage waves with a microcontroller triggered by a crank sensor. It would run smooth and be powerful, don't forget to force liquid cooling thru you solenoids! See your video in a year.
@davidkettell6236
@davidkettell6236 3 жыл бұрын
i love the way your crazy mind works Peter ,Dont ever grow up
@EJ-74
@EJ-74 2 жыл бұрын
Love the felling when something you've built works first try. Seeing Peter shock himself getting it first try definitely made me smile from ear to ear 😁
@shaikkareem1637
@shaikkareem1637 9 ай бұрын
There is one way to make these engines strong. Each cylinder should have air intake and compression. Because at the time of compression, the piston would anyways be pushed downwards. But along with electric frequency.
@theafro
@theafro 3 жыл бұрын
You'll get much more torque by rotating the crank lobes of 2 of the cylinders, producing 1 power-stroke every 90 degrees instead of 2 every 180. it does mean running 2 sets of switches but it will make a noticeable difference. and it should self-start if your timing is right. you could run an independent switch and cam for each solenoid as that would allow for fine adjustment of the timing but that's only really useful when squeezing the last bit of power from the engine. probably the biggest factor effecting solenoid engines is the parasitic drag of the moving parts, you can reduce this by using teflon "piston rings" to support the solenoid slug in the tube, but they can be fiddly to get right, and require a pretty good cylinder surface. you're probably looking at custom solenoids at that point, but that's the only way you're going to get anything to fly anyway so you may wish to explore that option. I reckon a PTFE bobbin, with the right winding and a lightweight rod with a neodymium magnet core might work for flight. A radial might be a good option too!
@fluiditynz
@fluiditynz 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like fun but some things to tweak? Use the flywheel bolt metal or cams for 4 x switches at 90 degree angle spacings to bridge circuits for each solenoid. Change from flat 4 cylinder to 90,180,270,360 degree crank big end angles to permit starting in any position. Lube the solenoids with silicone. Drop the center of gravity of the boat. Consider using a speaker coil arangement instead, to permit power on both strokes. Mount the solenoids in a V arangement or flat 4 to drop the center of gravity.
@agribusinesspk
@agribusinesspk 3 жыл бұрын
You are genius , you have develop electric engine for future electric cars keep it up
@Leafyfpv
@Leafyfpv 3 жыл бұрын
solenoid motors had caught my attention over the past month actually.. guess i was not alone! started from looking more into coil driven linear stepper motors. looks like a railgun but for controlled positioning. Props... Thanks for sharing
@lGuileWilliamsl
@lGuileWilliamsl 3 жыл бұрын
Good build. A couple of suggestions, you need to get away from the mechanical magnetic switch and the cam lobe in favor of a transistor NPN switch with optical timing. This will make energy transfer more efficient. Second you need to set up polarity reversal and solenoids capable of utilizing reverse polarity. This way every down and up stroke is a power stroke instead of just every other stroke being a power stroke. Last, you need a bigger propeller and rudder for your boat. Have fun! 😎👍
@Maxinfo0797
@Maxinfo0797 2 жыл бұрын
Its a revolution! This technology on car will feel like fuel engine! The roar of fuel engine in electric car..
@mozart8059
@mozart8059 2 жыл бұрын
Came back from my childhood and your still at it 💪🏾🔥🔥
@shanesdiy
@shanesdiy 3 жыл бұрын
My son and I built an air powered go cart about 13 years ago, you can see it on my channel. It used a pneumatic actuator to pedal bicycle cranks. We used a latching circuit with two magnetic switches on the cranks so we got push and pull as the cranks rotated. This provided power in both directions rather than just pulling in your single cylinder test, perhaps that would help? Not sure if your solenoids can push as well as pull.. Cool experiment, always enjoy your creations!
@gwheyduke
@gwheyduke 4 ай бұрын
Imagine the challenge Model airplane builders faced in 1933, wanting to have an engine powered plane instead of rubber bands! Think of Bill Brown, Elmer Wall, Edgar T. Westbury, Mel Anderson, Louis Loutrel, Bill Atwood and Ira Hassad. All very early builders of model IC engines for their airplanes and boats. Bill Atwood ended up designing the famous Cox Tee Dee engines.
@Space_pirateDKK
@Space_pirateDKK 2 жыл бұрын
Even his calipers are modified 😱Dam I love this dude 😂
@zahimo
@zahimo 3 жыл бұрын
Well done, i have an improvement to offer : the switch can not hold all those sparks for long, you better use a FET transistor to run the solenoid's, no damage will cause to the switch. good luck.
@jeancadet5862
@jeancadet5862 3 жыл бұрын
Some one need to invest on this man
@SciHeartJourney
@SciHeartJourney 3 жыл бұрын
You can put a switch on the other side of the cam from existing switch and do something clever to reverse the solenoid current flow on the reverse stroke, so that the cylinder becomes dual acting. You can't get that from a gas-powered engine! If you wanted to get really fancy and improve the efficiency one could use hall-effect sensors and an electronic control module to run it all. If you can reduce the current flow it might become a bit more efficient. Very cool!
@neelpatil1492
@neelpatil1492 3 жыл бұрын
It's just Yaaay moment when Peter Sripol , William Osman and Michael Reeves post a video🔥🙌
@_B_K_
@_B_K_ 3 жыл бұрын
Looks so cool, regardless of its performance.
@AaronNicoli
@AaronNicoli Жыл бұрын
In addition to the 90deg offset like everyone else is mentioning, I also think adding more mains would make a huge difference, u can see the crank bending hugely at the end with the prop on it... bending crank removes sooo much potential energy, if the crank had more mains and could focus on turning rather than bending would like double or triple your efficiency I'd say
@MrDoggss
@MrDoggss 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely need to modify this and have 4 independent power strokes 90 deg. apart. That will give you smoother running and better performance. Very fun project! :D
@iitzBenzo
@iitzBenzo 2 жыл бұрын
ALMOST AT 2 Million!
@EnsignLovell
@EnsignLovell 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see this fly. Always love how informative your videos are.
@ThalassTKynn
@ThalassTKynn 3 жыл бұрын
You'll probably have to wind your own solenoids. I've always been fascinated with solenoid engines!
@infotaker2420
@infotaker2420 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations 2 million family❤️❤️
@tankers4all
@tankers4all 3 жыл бұрын
WOO PETER IS FINALLY BUILD PISTON ENGINE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@maxbennedbk7085
@maxbennedbk7085 3 жыл бұрын
the inline 4 idea is cool, add some deviding bearings inbetween the arms of the crankshaft and add a sort of watercooling around the solenoids powered by a bigger flywheel
@MmMerrifield
@MmMerrifield 2 жыл бұрын
You did an awesome job using simple components, I bet it would be even better if you gave it some upgrades!
@Devonian-gg7gr
@Devonian-gg7gr 3 жыл бұрын
You need to make sure your coils fire after bottom dead center or they are fighting the motion of the Crank, could be why you're struggling for torque
@Malevolent_Q
@Malevolent_Q 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone I follow has made one
@naveendinakaran5656
@naveendinakaran5656 3 жыл бұрын
lovely build mate specially the boat and the song goes hand in hand
@gamerbombstudios2668
@gamerbombstudios2668 3 жыл бұрын
Basically term, down stroke when the connecting rod(and piston) is moving away from the cylinder (making more space inside the cylinder) and the up stroke is when the connecting rod (and piston) is moving two-day the cylinder (making less space inside the cylinder)
@mashilmy
@mashilmy 3 жыл бұрын
this is how to make electricity becomes inefficient anyway, such a cool project bro! would be amazing if you build it in human scale and rideable
@rohanchandrashekharkammar1055
@rohanchandrashekharkammar1055 3 жыл бұрын
Best sounding electric motor 🔥
@abraman5
@abraman5 3 жыл бұрын
Now try building a double action solenoid V8 engine. Double action solenoids push and pull both directions instead of a latch/single action. You would get a working “stroke” on each cylinder every revolution. Control timing by having an arduino fed crank position using a Hall effect/reluctor or photodiode/grid wheel and have the arduino fire a large mosfet setup. It must be wired correctly to get push-pull action by all 8 cylinders. Set crank angle readout at zero and fire 1-8-4-3 down and 6-5-7-2 up and reverse operation as soon as crank readout changes to zero again. You can introduce small ignition delays between cylinders to smooth it out. Flywheel is not necessary because each cylinder has a working stroke on each revolution, you can even fire all bank 1 to go up while bank 2 is all pushing down. The setup maybe a bit complicated, simplify it by having two straight 4 banks running double action solenoids and join cranks on one output. You can use your current setup but need another switch to control the second action of each solenoid.
@SharpnessSword
@SharpnessSword 3 жыл бұрын
I love the attention to detail and boat top coating
@cjkturtle9762
@cjkturtle9762 3 жыл бұрын
i love how happy peter gets when it worked the first time. great and wholesome video!
@literallybro3935
@literallybro3935 3 жыл бұрын
i became a D.I.Y scientist in the garage because of your videos
@CaptainMLonsdale
@CaptainMLonsdale 3 жыл бұрын
You could make it more powerful by not only adding more "cylinders" but by using thinner wire to wrap more coils, this makes a stronger magnetic field, making the motor stronger
@cesarvidelac
@cesarvidelac 3 жыл бұрын
"Old age of 30" 😸Wait till you hit 50! Great video!
@greystripe3737
@greystripe3737 2 жыл бұрын
I have got to say, you have a beautiful boat!
@secondwindmusicproductions
@secondwindmusicproductions Жыл бұрын
A couple of suggestions: I think the single cam and switch is a big compromise as you are unable to tune the pulse to something other than a 50% duty cycle. I think it would run better if both the on time an off time could be optimized. You could collapse the magnetic field in the coil a lot faster if you hook the fly-back diode to a higher voltage. It will not take much current but will put the brakes on the magnetic field much better than just returning the diode to supply voltage.
@cardenassolisrodrigo2601
@cardenassolisrodrigo2601 2 жыл бұрын
I heard at the end of the video that the switch burned out due to the intense sparks due to the conmutation of high electric power. You could use transistors to switch the high power electricity from the solenoids, and only using the switch to conmutate a lower electric power that controlls the transistors and that does not burn the switch, it could improve the life expectancy and reliability of the mecanical switch you used for the solenoid engine.
@Junkyarddogs7001
@Junkyarddogs7001 2 жыл бұрын
you should put each piston end at a 90 degree starting point from eachother, that way you can have a constant output force
@Pika_Gabe
@Pika_Gabe Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see other odd engines do work like this. The sterling engine is the most intriguing to me.
@Iwannabuyabugatti
@Iwannabuyabugatti 3 жыл бұрын
It's neat that you based the toy boat on a scaled down version of your solar boat!
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