Electric school buses in Maine are hitting a few road bumps

[@tigerphid9677]

This report conveniently ignores the fact that Lion Electric is expected to soon file for bankruptcy. These buses will never be fixed. And I would be willing to bet that the school district sold off its gasoline powered buses.

[@geirgaseidnes7809]

'Never" is kind of a strong word here. Bankruptcy doesn't necessarily mean the assets don't get purchased and continued. GM and Chrysler both went bankrupt but both continue to produce and support cars (that's two out of the Big Three).

[@tigerphid9677]

@@geirgaseidnes7809 Proterran is a much bigger electric bus company that also went bankrupt and has been broken up and sold off. Proterra left many cities and towns in the dust, including swanky Jackson, Wyoming. Major companies like Ford and Mercedes are totally re-thinking their commitment to electric vehicles after losing tons of cash. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for little Lion to rise again.

[@geirgaseidnes7809]

@ there’s a lot of space between “wouldn’t hold my breath” and “never”.

[@tigerphid9677]

@@geirgaseidnes7809 Yes, sure. Let me know when Proterra and Lion are back in business and fixing the terrible products that they have created.

[@matthewcaughey8898]

They only bought 4 of them and they showed at least one diesel bus still there. Story indicated the 4 buses have been out of service since the one crapped out

[@subicstationditosailor4053]

Who is getting a 10% kickback for going "green"?

[@BillLaBrie]

The big guy

[@guy-tn2ud]

@@BillLaBrie oh man, that was supposed to be my reply. You win best reply to the best comment award 🏆

[@sanderaadams4991]

10% for the big guy

[@joenewman6494]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@coypatton3160]

10%? Any one that works with Lithium based batteries and cold weather knows they 2 do not make a good working relationship.

[@davidmay5338]

Maine, one of the coldest states in the union ordered electric school busses? Who's friend/relative/ got rich with this stupidity? That woman should be fired...

[@richardfabacher3705]

On the plus side, when the batteries catch fire, the kids will be warm and toasty.

[@nicholebourgoine6713]

Guaranteed it's that idiot Janet Mills brain dead idea. Her rectal-cranial inversion is becoming worse.

[@donutdan1508]

They had to add very expensive infrastructure to charge the buses. Millions and millions of dollars of taxpayer money wasted to please the Enviroweenies.😢

[@beckymash12]

They spelled the name of the manufacturer wrong. It should be "Lyin' Electric"

[@dryherbvoter]

Donald won now so shhh.

[@smorris281]

IC Bus makes a better electric bus, but I’d still go with Diesel or CNG.

[@williamhaynes7089]

@@smorris281 we have hybrid busses where i work, great balance

[@joenewman6494]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@pinetree5489]

That was probably the joke when they came up with "Lion."

[@kasebier8688]

They don't work and put people and students a risk, but we believe in them.

[@theoBaba773]

I dont*****...........

[@LakeHowellDigitalVideo]

That's like saying all gas cars are bad because Ford builds junk. There are also gas cars built by Toyota.

[@CF-wj5hc]

​@@LakeHowellDigitalVideobut gas/diesel is proven in these climates. EVs are new tech made by new companies, all competing in a space where they wouldn't compete if not for Gov subsidies. If they were really good they could compete without the Gov finger on the scale diverting tax payer money to short sighted ideas. Not just about the fact that fuel is cheaper and easier, they just make sense in these climates.

[@lhaley9873]

Batteries in extreme cold is a disaster, didn't anyone do research on this problem? Where's the kick back going?

[@millcity9711]

Kamala loves electric yellow busses, check there.

[@fishgutz4272]

Democrats watched Prison Break and thought the plot was a great idea. Give hundreds of millions to "green" companies that are connected to politicians and get massive kickbacks. In the series, it was the VP'S brother-in-law who got the money and passed $500k to the VP.

[@garychlastawa8277]

Norway has a ton of electric vehicles doing fine in the cold. The technology can handle it, this sounds more like a manufacturer specific issue, maybe software involved. Lion is a new start up, if they stay in business long enough they can make it work. Oshkosh is struggling to make those electric postal vans, they should have provided close to 3000 by now, but they have only built about 300. Electric vehicles sound simple to make, but lot of companies struggling to learn something new.

[@tvviewer4500]

@@garychlastawa8277 it’s not a software issue. Battery chemistry changes based on temperature conditions

[@DBMorris]

@garychiastawa8277 is this Norway's first year with them? We haven't seen the really cold weather yet.... Have you ever experienced the heater in an electric vehicle? They're complete rubbish! They don't work below 40° and draw huge amounts of power from the batteries. Electric vehicles are not at all simple or cheap to build. The batteries have to be replaced at least every 2 years and that costs in the tens of thousands for a small vehicle. Imagine what it costs for a bus!

[@falcorthewonderdog2758]

Lithium batteries perform poorly in cold weather and can't be charged until the battery is warmed up. Whoever decided to go electric bus apparently didn't do any research.

[@stephengeary6439]

There saposed to have a heating element in the battery pack if there having brake issues did they get rid of air brakes I understand hydraboost brakes but air is still king cuz even if it has issues it still works like some of the big rig hybrid or full elec company's are just using off the shelf home depo air compressors since a 120 or 240 volt system already exists or is easy to add

[@rkan2]

Not much problems in the Nordics here. Operators usually run a diesel heater in the winter though. Still a lot cheaper compared to diesel (especially since it is so expensive here)

[@DJGRoc]

​@@stephengeary6439Where do you think that heating element gets its power from?

[@allennaven4445]

90% of ev vehicles are still on the road the other 10% made it home

[@brettmerryman2837]

Side of the road lol

[@Bigrignohio]

Actually EVs have been working quite well. But nice try. Haters gotta hate.

[@Davidtuscano-f6o]

🤪🤬😂🤣😜

[@richardfabacher3705]

@@Bigrignohio And people love to buy snake oil and swear it cured their cancer. Everybody with a wrench wants to jump on the EV bandwagon, $$$, but as an analogy, EVs aren't up to the year 1900 for ICE vehicles. Much development still needs to be done. The Model T of EVs is coming, but it's still elusive.

[@bvrsqzr3569]

​@@Bigrignohio really...where?

[@TheKianykin]

Depending on the battery you can counter the cold by igniting the battery. It will burn for days.

[@williamhaynes7089]

does this void the warranty?

[@kevink3975]

What a waste of tax payers money!

[@user-surly]

AFAIC, these do-gooders intentionally waste money.

[@neuralglitch9063]

Ha ha...that's the tip of the iceberg for our state government !! Maine's state government is out of control, and probably criminal. It sure helps explain the 30% increase in our property taxes this year 🤬

[@DBMorris]

Imagine all the money we've dished out for bullsh*t green initiatives!!! The State treasury was well in the black before Mills. It only took her a matter of months to turn that to red!

[@efk3733]

And they continue to vote idiots into office

[@user-ln7of9gs4s]

This is the crap that raises the deficit. It needs to stop! These can cost 2-3 times as much as a regular school bus. DOGE needs to stop this.

[@davidhenderson3400]

Did anyone catch what the school bus driver said.. he said when the engine cut out he had to ram it into a snowbank to stop it. So when the electrics failed he lost the brakes. That don't sound too safe.

[@neilkurzman4907]

I listen to the story and no, I didn’t catch that.

[@davidhenderson3400]

​@@neilkurzman4907 1:12

[@davidhenderson3400]

​@@neilkurzman4907 At 1:12

[@neilkurzman4907]

@ So brakes failing on a vehicle is because it’s electric or because it was manufactured poorly or designed poorly The only thing I got from this is don’t buy anything from lion.

[@tezcanaslan2877]

@@neilkurzman4907 probably poor design. According to my research transmission and brakes are supposed to be seperate systems in a regular car.

[@MrJohnnyboyrebel]

“We believe in electric buses” makes as much sense as “We believe in the Tooth Fairy”. Belief and reality don’t always come together when you need it. Basically Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny and electric vehicle performance are all big lies.

[@elrobo3568]

I bet someone in the government has a piece of Lion electric.

[@sandyjuntunen4088]

Kerry was asked recently at their climate summit what was necessary to address climate change, he said " Money, money, money!". That's all it's about right there.

[@PatricioGarcia1973]

I hope so, since it closed shop and laid off all their workforce, that they lost a bunch of money (the investors)

[@neilkurzman4907]

I bet you have a piece of lying Electric. And you’re over here trying to redirect to the government. Yes that’s my conspiracy theory. How could you?

[@1234crevis]

@@neilkurzman4907 yup!

[@andrewschliewe6392]

Except Lion Electric stock is worthless and trading was suspended for it on the NYSE

[@FrederVision]

When they sold all their diesel busses i bought them all and have them in a storage nearby. I can part with them, i guess for the right price...😂

[@modtwentyeight]

The people of Hyde Park, NY had the opportunity to purchase electric busses. The voters in their wisdom voted the offer down.

[@mrfirefighter360]

Smart voters.

[@smorris281]

My district in PA replaced their entire fleet, 89 buses with compressed natural gas 6 years ago, no major issues, and the run great.

[@bigc8300]

y

[@A_Bit_of_Thought]

The big problems occur when a new technology gets deployed on a large scale before it is mature. Compressed natural gas powered vehicles is a mature technology.

[@copyprint-fz2hb]

you must live in a red state , Maine is full of Libtards

[@zachzebra56]

​@@A_Bit_of_Thoughtthat is true. We saw this with the invention of nuclear reactor's. Back when they were an infant technology, they were deployed in masses. But we were still learning how a nuclear reactor worked and how it can operate safely. This would lead to accidents like meltdowns. (Like Three Mile Island in 79) Which unfortunately greatly harmed the reputation of nuclear energy.

[@1940limited]

I'd still rather diesels, but the propane buses we have seem pretty good, but they have issues.

[@coryfogle5353]

As long as she "believes" in the rushed technology, that's all that really counts.

[@1940limited]

This is a big part of the problem: People that dont' have to work on them or drive them making the decisions about what to buy.

[@VancouverCanucksRock]

​@@1940limitedAlso, it sure ain't her money, that she's wasting!!!! THAT is the main problem!!!

[@ComputerKevAZ]

You’re witnessing a peek into the mind of the liberal educators that have control of your children all day. Wishes, rainbows, and unicorns.

[@chiefjoseph8154]

EV: A solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.

[@JK_Chapman]

the question becomes how did Lion Electric get the contract? how was the vendor selected and what contractual provisions are in place to warrant and remedy the issues? how was the financial risk of the vendor assessed when the competitive solicitation process was conducted? so far it sounds like loosey goosey procurement practices

[@1234crevis]

Its usually the cheapest price gets the bid!

[@othomas3061]

Interestingly enough, I believe Lion was the first company years ago to have electric school buses. Long before the other well known manufacturers did. So you’d think it’d be more reliable…

[@1940limited]

That's what I'd like to know. What genius promulgated this boondoggle? I'm sure no one who maintains or drives them

[@MJofLakelandX]

Councilmembers look for the cheapest bidder. Often times, just to make a PR splash, they'll go for the one who can produce the most for the cheaper cost to quickly hold a press conference to say, "WE... as a community strive for CLEANER alternatives for OUR kids and OUR future!" and it tends to backfire and you're left with a load of crap on the lot. It happens so much, I tend to laugh at these stories

[@francismarion6400]

No one else was dumb enough to make ev buses.

[@stevevlossak2443]

Bethlehem Pennsylvania has grounded their electric buses due to too many safety issues drivers refusing to drive them because of these issues

[@betsykeller9096]

I live in Bethlehem, PA and my kids have been out of school for over 10 years. They just received 10 new electric school buses. Where did you see the report on grounding them. Morning Call, Lehigh Valley Live or WFMZ? I'd love to know if my tax dollars here are being squandered.

[@DBMorris]

@betsykeller you can be sure your tax dollars are being squandered!!

[@markdegloria4038]

​@@DBMorrislots of corruption😂

[@Bigrignohio]

@@DBMorris Translation: No evidence, just passing gossip as fact.

[@1940limited]

How much taxpayer money was wasted on this boondoggle?

[@charlesward8196]

I saw a news article last week where an electric school bus burned to the ground just after the students were off-loaded due to a fire caused by a “diesel fuel powered” cabin heating system that was required because the battery can’t power the bus and keep the kids warm for one single transport loop. How is THAT for “Net Zero?”

[@BLAZE13011]

Yeah the irony of claiming 100% electric but then run a dirty diesel heater to keep the cabin warm.

[@pinetree5489]

I would doubt the "claim" as to the cause. I'd bet it was the EV batteries but they would never want to admit it.

[@rkan2]

It is how most electric buses run in the nordics in the winter. It is a whole lot less emissions than running on diesel. The heater uses a few liters per hour, a diesel bus would use 30 or more if you are going slow enough.

[@user-ln7of9gs4s]

DOGE needs to cut wasteful spending just like this. Grants for an electric school bus? You mean the money for one of these that could pay for 2-3 gas or diesel powered school buses that actually work?

[@ytoal]

Back to Normal buses, enough of this waste in taxpayers funds. Gas and diesel are still the best.

[@1940limited]

Agreed on that 100% Least expensive, too.

[@PeterGardner-e1z]

@@1940limited Yes and a dammed site safer for the kids.

[@joewoodchuck3824]

Maine should have known better than to go electric especially in their clomate.

[@bryantford3054]

“I love electric school buses!” (cackle cackle)

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

Hillary, is that you?

[@1940limited]

Yes, I remember that famous Harris quote. What does she know about anything, let alone school buses.

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

@@1940limited I forgot, they both cackled. I haven't heard from the second one in awhile and it has been so nice not to think about any of them anymore.

[@efk3733]

Govt officials are the problem

[@1940limited]

Who votes for them is the root cause. ME's a blue state, voted for Harris.

[@vikinghog]

Ha Ha, keep believing. It is just taxpayer money being wasted so no big deal to those officials.

[@coleens.6212]

Some of the fault lies with the Winthrop School District. You're in Maine (I live in Readfield: right next door). Did you do any research on how electric vehicles preform in cold weather?

[@andrewschliewe6392]

They just saw they could get something free from the government.

[@coleens.6212]

@@andrewschliewe6392 I'm sure you're right. But did they not look into the costs beyond the free part? A 5-year contract? The expense of maintaining them? Looking into the company before signing anything? The people who okayed this should be fired.

[@francismarion6400]

​@coleens.6212 It's not like it's about the kids are anything. Go green at any cost!

[@sergeant_salty]

This is what the "inflation reduction act" really gave us

[@kensakamoto258]

These buses cost twice as much as a diesel bus and carry fewer students. Our local school is operating short runs on flat ground but still has to charge between runs. They had to replace Rear springs due to the weight of the batteries.

[@JohnnyAngel8]

Nonsense.

[@sergeant_salty]

@JohnnyAngel8 educate yourself. $400 billion spent on climate change in the "Inflation Reduction" Act. $1.5 billion spent on "clean" school buses that can't even be used. Have fun knowing you voted for these new problems

[@kennethloki7011]

110 billion in cleaner energy investments from non government sources. 170,000 jobs in the energy sector, elderly insurance users averaging savings of 800 a year, insulin capped at 35$ a month through insurance, over 500 million towards the Colorado River basin to aid and protect farmers from drought, 575 million to great lakes states to fix infrastructure and other projects to protect communities from extreme weather events, and about 100 other things. Oh and that was in only one year. And you only came away with busses in Maine? Oh boy...

[@JohnnyAngel8]

@kennethloki7011 Thank you for spelling out. The Inflation Reduction Act is a key to America's recovery. Many thanks go to President Biden, who got a divided Congress to come together to make it happen.

[@truckertae9725]

The batteries are located between the frame rails and in car speeding can bend the frame in a crash damaging the batterys causing a risk of a fire In general they are a waste of money

[@neilkurzman4907]

So let me get this straight if a car smashes into a school bus hard enough to bend it frame people can get hurt????? By the way, they’ve been school bus fires where somebody smashed into a school bus hard enough to bend the frame and set the gasoline on fire. And yes, they still make gasoline school buses.

[@paulboring9053]

EVs r junk

[@dodgeguyz]

That’s called “bricking” itself! It happens in all new vehicles now because they are dependent on a particular voltage. If that varies, then the system can’t properly run everything and it shuts down, just like when your phone locks up. Now…..wait till they find out how much the range is reduced in extremely cold weather!

[@KcPenguins]

🥶 don't use the heat, or ac depending on your climate..

[@neilkurzman4907]

That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Where did you dig it up?

[@dodgeguyz]

@ You don’t work on cars or with computers I take it?! It’s a known fact!

[@PeterGardner-e1z]

Also trying to charge it when the Battery is freezing it's nuts off.

[@dodgeguyz]

@ Agreed, but there is a heater that heats the battery before it starts charging the battery.

[@odess4sd4d]

"We believe in electric busses" this isn't the polar express for Pete's sake

[@AcmeRacing]

She wants so desperately to be PC, so she's blaming the manufacturer instead of the flawed concept.

[@andrewschliewe6392]

Maybe she has to say that, remember if they don't use these buses for 5 years, they are on the hook for the cost of the buses.

[@lePurpleDragon]

An electric vehicle in a cold climate... wow, what could possibly go wrong??

[@morlamweb]

Nothing, provided that the EV is proper;y manufactured. These buses weren't. Watch to the end of the video; they say that other nearby towns in Maine have electric buses that are reliable. Likely they weren't made by Lion electric.

[@lePurpleDragon]

@@morlamweb LOL... they won't work in negative temps, bucko...

[@garychlastawa8277]

Check out vehicle sales in Norway.

[@dodgeguyz]

@@morlamweb I’m sure they weren’t told that the range they were sold on isn’t the same in very cold weather. A lot of people are finding that out with all EVs. They always conveniently leave that out.

[@markdegloria4038]

​​@@garychlastawa8277Norway doesn't have a population anything compared to this nation 😕 Biden wanted to spend almost 1 trillion dollars buying electric school buses :$950 billion dollars. Schools can't teach or keep kids safe. Let's spend more money or give to Ukraine 😂 yeah other peoples money 🤑💰💰💰🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@johnaltobello5095]

LION ELECTRIC just closed down in Illinois..

[@1940limited]

No surprise there. International and Blue Bird offer electric buses. Why not buy from established manufacturers? Better yet, don't buy electric buses at all.

[@johnaltobello5095]

@1940limited illinois gave LION Electric 50 million in tax dollars to open a plant in 2023..they took the money and screwed Illinois.

[@user-ln7of9gs4s]

Over priced. Should have bought gas engines, way cheaper to maintain. DOGE needs to stop these grants that add to our deficit. This is the problem, wasteful spending.

[@Fireplug52]

I see the problem very clearly and it appears that the lady states "they" like their electric buses. Stupid is as stupid does.

[@neilkurzman4907]

And that also applies to you, correct

[@samskinner8765]

cause she never payed for them!!!

[@1940limited]

She doesn't have to work on them or drive them.

[@JohnSmith-ux3tt]

I wonder I she actually drives an EV. Or is that for "other people"!

[@OldAndWithered]

The ones we have in Austin have caught fire or break down all the time. Even with grants, we got screwed.

[@blanebrinkley8333]

Now you know the "benefits" of liberal politics.

[@KcPenguins]

😅

[@mikeperry1620]

Obama gave millions to company solendra; environmental solutions; it went out of business. Biden doing same thing present day. See a pattern here ?

[@trevor8419]

Yeah wait until you get trumps “concept of a plan” for healthcare and lowering the price of groceries. Spoiler alert: he has no plans

[@jerryfrederick6496]

Idealistic Liberal Dream.

[@1940limited]

As always. Blue state.

[@GoogleSpyZon]

Reliable for shorter runs... dosen't sound Reliable at all 🤡

[@JohnSmith-k1x]

Wait until a bus or two shuts down in the winter no heat with children on board, Can you say lawsuit.What do you think .???

[@skivvywaver]

Canadian school buses that do not work even after the Canadians have dumped $200,000,000 into them. This is Canada's version of Solyndra.

[@mlj6419]

Gee, what a surprise...a problem with an electric bus. Shocking

[@A_Bit_of_Thought]

I agree. Those battery packs operate at a voltage significantly higher than 12 volts.

[@bowdoin5063]

Thanks democrats

[@JK_Chapman]

Elon?

[@bowdoin5063]

@@JK_Chapman Nope, democrats

[@markdegloria4038]

​@@JK_Chapmanhe never mandated anything nor could he. Talk about saying stupid s*** well done 👍😂

[@neilkurzman4907]

When you look at a cave, do you say thanks Republicans. Maybe we can go back to caves

[@JohnSmith-ux3tt]

​@@neilkurzman4907No, that made no sense. Try again.

[@billrehm3590]

Who wants their kids and grandkids riding on top of a big lithium battery. What could go wrong. Parents who worry about school shootings , when they have a much higher chance of being killed in an accident going to ,or coming home from school.

[@eddiebrown856]

Get Biden and Harris to drive them. They aren't doing anything else

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

Their chauffeur, you mean. These elitists don't do anything themselves except sign bills that loot the citizenry.

[@nighthiker8872]

WHEN things go really bad, not to worry the NEWS, will brush off the story.

[@ShoehornBundy]

The bus driver tried to use the heater?

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

Stop using the heater during the winter to improve range, lol.

[@1940limited]

They have diesel powered heaters in them which poses other problems and dangers.

[@Curtis7391-t8q]

Electric school buses do not work in cold climates…they loose the range and they do not provide sufficient heat in the cabin for the occupants

[@MichaelDonapel]

Aren’t you all glad that you followed the Biden Harris administration and went electric. Lucky you

[@CJinsoo]

EV school busses in Maine? The EV Busses in Maine are totally insane. WTF is wrong with people that they cannot look at this technology and say it isn’t fit for heavy vehicles in a cold climate? Even the postal service had the sense to reject the Biden mandate for EV mail carriers.

[@bill3641]

It's just so easy to spend Other Peoples Money...................

[@PhrontDoor]

Yeah, bus ridership is down.. because schools keep changing criteria and pushing OUT the minimum distance for houses.

[@PS-hv7on]

Thank the green grifters.

[@freddyhollingsworth5945]

My 2000 AmTran T444E has been in flawless service 24 years and will be retired in 6 months. The engine, transmission, and axle is still all original and it has never needed a tow. 250,000 miles, 16,000 hours...it can be stubborn to start it when below 25°F, but it is so reliable.

[@1940limited]

No need to retire that bus at all except government bureaucracy. Be sure it's not replace with an EV.

[@tezcanaslan2877]

@@1940limited probably fails emissions now hence the need to retire

[@freddyhollingsworth5945]

@1940limited state law. Age 20 retire the school bus from a daily route, but we can use them for up to 25 years as a "spare" bus, but our spare buses are actually daily bx they are more reliable than the newer DPF/DEF buses. No rust here, the 25 year rule is more of safety from things like old brake systems, old wiring that could catch on fire, etc..

[@1940limited]

@@freddyhollingsworth5945 25 years out of a bus is pretty good. I'd say you're not wasting money.

[@patrickmccarthy6798]

Is this the program where a district has to destroy their old diesel bus in order to qualify for an EV bus? If so an EV bus not on the road means the district is down a bus.

[@1940limited]

I read about that involving a school district somewhere in the Midwest, Wyoming I think.

[@patrickmccarthy6798]

@@1940limited A small grumble: I lived in WY in the early 90s. I think they would like to be considered the West, not midwest. Midwest is for flat states like Nebraska. :)

[@samskinner8765]

just another waste of taxpayers money, nothing new

[@adriantidd3755]

$490k each and a range of 80 miles.

[@1940limited]

2-1/2 times as much as reliable diesels.

[@SuperAgentman007]

Well, time to go back to good old, reliable Diesel international built buses with bluebird bodies on them😂

[@mikedubovs1574]

They run on coal and can explode

[@Warp2090]

The range on electric cars is still awful. So it must be pretty bad on a huge school bus..

[@garychlastawa8277]

Maybe you drive 200+ miles a day, but an average person does not. If you have a garage to charge in it can be very convenient. If you rent and park outside, I wouldn't get one yet.

[@bradbutcher3984]

​@@garychlastawa8277 I'll never get one. Look up lithium and cobalt mines. Only Tards think they are clean energy.

[@Warp2090]

@@garychlastawa8277 having to charge them all the time is very inefficent.

[@neilkurzman4907]

And how many miles do you think a school bus drives in a given day? 30 miles?

[@Warp2090]

@@neilkurzman4907 you're missing my point lmao

[@greggamandabarkus4235]

There is no power like diesel power.

[@CarswithNash]

Don't think I would want my kid riding on that sketchy bus!😮

[@wyrunuts]

teacher why are you late for class Jimmy ? Jimmy bus ran out of power

[@neilkurzman4907]

The bus didn’t run out of power. The bus broke down.

[@reynardgreenewood261]

Electrics Do NOT work in any Northern States or Canada !!! Even in south Arizona and Florida they will never recover their initial cost within 15 years . Often started my diesels in a heated Garage while they had block and battery heaters plugged in while working in Alaska several years. Also, Electrics will never recover their initial cost during their service life .

[@robinbabcock4620]

Stupid idea. Electric vehicles don’t work in cold weather.

[@gregorysoderlund8025]

It should be illegal to bus school kids around in the winter in electric school busses FFS

[@KcPenguins]

No heat on much of these electric buses. 🥶 Not good for kids in the Northeast 2 to 4 degrees f. better hope for global warming 😳

[@kurtwinter4422]

The biggest challenge to batteries is cold weather, so naturally, one of the most northern states is a no brainer for this tech, as in, only someone without a brain would think was good.

[@williamhaynes7089]

Ev busses have very low mileage here in Phoenix due to having to run the Air conditioning...

[@1940limited]

Whose idea was it to buy them? Maybe since you woke up and voted for Trump, this problem can be solved.

[@williamhaynes7089]

@@1940limited They were not bought by my transit authority, they were loaners that were provided in the hopes that they could sell 100-s of units to them.. As far as trump is concerned you need to get over the fact that Kamila was a crappy candidate and lost...

[@LYNDONGOLDEN]

Besides Tesla, every EV manufacturer is still experimenting with being in the EV business. As battery technologies evolve, and while consumer demand fluctuates, smaller EV startups and niche outfitters (Like Lion) will come and go.

[@1940limited]

Better yet just stick with ICE.

[@jeffl4810]

​@@1940limitedno.

[@carolyncarpenter9682]

Simplicity & common sense apparently were not allowed in the design of these buses🤔 Ed c

[@1940limited]

No liberal every exhibits these qualities.

[@GrnArrow092]

One reason why school districts are struggling to hire new drivers is because being a school bus driver is one of the most stressful jobs there is. I suspect that nobody wants to look after a bus full of loud and rowdy children.

[@robyndavis3043]

Electric vehicles CANNOT be driven during the winter months!

[@michaelwarren2391]

Funny, I see EV's on the road all year 'round.

[@1940limited]

If it gets too hot, that's a problem, too. I guess use them Spring and Fall?

[@xlandros]

I like how the anchor tried to put a positive spin on the story at the end, saying one district is having positive experience, “on their shorter runs”.😂

[@1940limited]

I'm sure the anchor's a liberal.

[@stevensobotka3449]

That's hilarious way to go Democrats , Harris yellow school bus Biden 😂😂😂

[@MatthewK863]

Hybrid is the way! Not all electric, not all IC.

[@garychlastawa8277]

Hybrids sound nice, but now you have 2 drive systems wedged in your car. More parts and more things to go wrong as the car ages.

[@coleens.6212]

Bet a hybrid is a lot more $.

[@copyprint-fz2hb]

keep voting Blue Maine 🤣 LMAO

[@mikep7324]

You idiots, cold weather kills the battery.

[@sorbabaric1]

Really “cool” should never be a consideration for school’s buses transportation. And EV batteries don’t function well in the cold. It’s a very expensive way to be “cool”. And not environmentally friendly. And doesn’t make sense cost wise. And “reliable for their shorter routes” says not reliable on other routes.

[@lizhaydon2250]

Dahhh! Shorter routes work. Crazy. If you need a school bus I bet the routes are not short. And what is wrong with the busses they were using that were reliable and safe. The deluded green knuckleheads are messing with the safety of your children.

[@coleens.6212]

The routes in Maine aren't short. Lots of kids live out in the boonies.

[@JoseyWhals]

Just wait until the batteries start to ill say fail.......and or explode

[@markdanielczyk944]

Especially since the company closed their doors. DOH!🤦

[@williamhaynes7089]

Trading on Lion Electric (LEV) on the New York Stock Exchange has been halted. The stock closed at $0.25 on Monday. Dont look good

[@techknowtim]

Electric batteries in Maine ? Really ? Half the school year is below zero up there ! This is epic stupidity !

[@JohnSmith-ux3tt]

Democrats.

[@johnnytadwell5976]

Can you imagine how much these busses weigh?

[@coleens.6212]

That bus driver that had to hit a snowbank when the bus brakes failed when the bus failed was lucky that the snowbank stopped him.

[@johnnytadwell5976]

@coleens.6212 They are putting children at risk just to push an agenda.

[@NoNo-iz8hd]

Lion will go bankrupt and the vehicles will never have any support. A complete waste of money.

[@MrSizewise]

Maine has schools?!?

[@mikeperry1620]

Laugh out loud !!!!!!!!

[@mrwonderful2142]

No, we have leftist indoctrination centers for our children

[@1940limited]

You have to wonder with such decisions being made.

[@ourv9603]

There was a newspaper story here about how our Del Norte county, California school district school bus fleet was half broken down in need of parts & whatever. I have been reading stories about how the FED is giving away electric school buses to any school district that asks. What I dont understand is WHY does my county school district HAVE an old worn out broke down bus fleet? when brand new electrics are avail for the asking? In CALIFORNIA no less. My county is real REAL R E A L red. Does our county think electrics are TOO WOKE? If you buy an EV California will install the charge outlet for you. Whats the problem? !

[@1940limited]

The problem is EVs are junk, dangerous and unreliable.

[@ronwade2206]

Struggling to hire school bus drivers? Not for $13/hour!

[@donmunro144]

I wouldn't babysit one kid for $13/hr. I sure won't babysit a whole bus load of them for that.

[@1940limited]

As a school bus driver myself I can tell you it's not an easy job and pays way less than it ought. It's even dangerous when you think about it. Anything can happen out there. Plus you're always guilty until proven innocent if anything does go wrong.

[@ronaldschmelzle7636]

Cold temps is never good for batteries

[@eliinthewolverinestate6729]

Seems dumb in one of the coldest states where electric vehicles don't work good. They probably work good in Florida.

[@user-wj9wq7mk4h]

Work well*

[@dryherbvoter]

Electric vehicles and appliances work better in colder climates.

[@martyharless5097]

​@@dryherbvoter No they don't. Batteries perform poorly in cold weather plus extra drain on the batteries to keep the interior warm.

[@coleens.6212]

@@dryherbvoter What? Not true.

[@FiFo911]

Ya but they're zero carbon emissions, so there's thaaaaat.

[@chriscampbell9338]

I think I remember seeing a story about an electric bus that caught on fire

[@Madness832]

Not school buses, but transit buses in Oslo and London. And Boston is gearin' up for them.

[@chriscampbell9338]

@Madness832 ok just give it time, they will

[@joeblow123]

@@Madness832 yea, that yellow paint will make them exempt from fire !

[@robertbowman9108]

so did i miss it? not a single detail of what the problem is?

[@1940limited]

EV is all you need to know!

[@tezcanaslan2877]

Poor design. You should not lose brakes in the case of engine failure for example (the driver had to crash to a snowbank to stop the vehicle)

[@robertbowman9108]

@@tezcanaslan2877 you lose power boost to your breaks in every gas car when your engine dies

[@tezcanaslan2877]

@@robertbowman9108 you still have the mechanical brakes however, i think the bus driver didn’t have both

[@fisherman5845]

How can anyone think electric vehicles are good for the environment we burn coal and diesel to make electricity

[@morlamweb]

You must not have seen solar and wind farms everywhere, generating electricity on the grid. The percentage of electricity generated by solar/wind/water is small but increasing every year. It'd be an even larger percentage if power companies hadn't restarted coal plants to mean the energy needs of crypto scams.

[@Ivan_Cornelius]

In the USA we have multiple sources of power none would go away if ev went away so I’m not sure what your point is.

[@Warp2090]

Coal doesn't really affect the environment much anymore at least in the US. Most of the stuff released is just steam.

[@larrycjost9388]

I have seen articles on the Internet which I don't remember all that well except they claimed if the source of powers is coal burning this represents a step down and backwards and causes more environmental impact than ice

[@gusjones9388]

I hope they kept the diesel buses.

[@JohnMurphy-dw6ml]

JUNK!

[@davidbabcock5172]

A huge waste of money and unfortunately they are determined to spend more to fix something that can’t be fixed.

[@stevensobotka3449]

That's hilarious 😂😂😂,what to go Democrats lol Biden 😂😂😂