Electric Vauxhall Astra Sports Tourer - Finally an EV that's not an SUV ! | 4K

The Vauxhall Astra Sports Tourer is an EV that is not an SUV ! The car world seems to be obsessed with SUVs yet for me a more obvious practical all electric car is an estate format car. In this video I share my first drive of the brand new all electric Vauxhall Astra Sports Tourer.
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[@billbarr7591]

A vastly more expensive estate option than the MG5. Stellantis pruices for electric cars is ridiculous and the depreciation is brutal.

[@brummiesalteno-81]

Couldn't agree more. I can only guess they do amazing deals on fleet bulk buys. Otherwise I don't know how the stellantis group sell any cars.

[@ISuperTed]

True but no one pays those prices - check out the discounts on Corsa EV’s, you can get £10k easily off those. I have no idea why Stellantis put out these fantasy list prices, maybe it’s just how the market works here so they can give fleets ‘discounts’, when they are nothing of the sort. In 12 months time these will be £20k or less and then they make sense.

[@timofthomas]

Unfortunately no... the fleet prices went through the roof last year and a lot of companies have or are reviewing their fleet arrangements as a result ​@brummiesalteno-81

[@juliandclarke]

Good to have EV choice and not just another SUV.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Depreciation is really a major factor if you lease. And let's face it, most of these Astra's will be acquired on leases. This should make them a decent buy at 2 to 3 years old.....

[@TeaBreak.]

As a business user of Ev's. Estate car is great with good efficiency. But it needs a 60 or 70 kWh battery to get over 330 miles in Summer and 280 in Winter. Doing a day's driving without having to use very expensive public charging is important. (ev charger price x3 = p/litre). Most chargers cost over £2/litre equivalent.

[@graemecollie9233]

I keep seeing this about public chargers but if you're going to use them get a subscription charge card, for a monthly fee it significantly reduces the charge cost. For example, Elli offer a contract at £12.99 per month which reduces Ionity charging from 79p/kWh to 31p/kWh. If you use over 200 kWh a month the monthly subscription breaks down to about 6p/kWh so then your cost is 37p/kWh which is about the same price as domestic standard variable rate electricity but charging 25-30x faster. Other charging providers do similar schemes, in the US they get charging for free for the life of the car on Electrify America with certain marques when you buy new. The issue is ICE ownership has been so convenient that when people are asked to put a little time, thought and effort in it is seen as a huge inconvenience when it isn't. Remember when it was a travesty asking drivers to put seatbelts on and making it law?

[@Discovery_Dad]

@@graemecollie9233 The problem though is you end up needing multiple subscriptions as you can't guarantee you are going to be on a route that includes a free, working charger of your subscribed company. That then starts to erode the cost case again. What really needs to happen is for there to be some kind of regulation on public charging so that the price discrepancies aren't as wild. Whilst we all know motorway service stations are not the cheapest, they aren't 2-3x the price of non-motorway prices. At the moment it's a free for all, and companies are taking advantage of the fact that there's a good chance you really can't go anywhere else, or even volt & bolt.... Sure, home charging is slow, but that generally doesn't matter as is you can charge at home you most likely charge overnight where speed is not a concern. You shouldn't have to only travel via routes that have a particular charger. That's not being lazy. Comparing to seat belts is not a good comparison. They didn't constrain you to only going to certain petrol stations, they just constrained you to the seat you were already in.

[@jimcabezola3051]

Now THAT'S a proper car. Can't beat an estate! Less height, less flab. I even like the display; it doesn't scream for attention. With conventional instruments, I've gotten used to instrument binnacles with a hood-like surround to keep the glare off the instruments in the sunshine. Do you find that glare on the "instruments" is a problem in your driving routine? I've not heard other KZbinrs mention this, so I just wondered... And..what's this? Proper buttons for the HVAC? What'll they think of next? Your report is a most welcome one. I would buy one of these! Aloha.

[@tonyshergold6023]

The huge problem though is the price!

[@mikadavies660]

I do like the Astra design but as with the Corsa and Mokka, I'm not happy with the prices. Stellantis use the same batteries and motors on ALL of their range so they have the advantages of Mass Production, yet they are not passing on the efficiencies. Taking a petrol model and adding £10,000 to get to the EV model is simply too much. A £40,000 Astra is too high. Add the massive depreciation where a 2 year old Mokka EV is worth £15,000... what this will be worth?? £20,000??

[@PetrolPed]

I agree 👍

[@rtownz251251]

Suppose it depends how you look at it. When you compare it to a Tesla model 3 / Y, prices are similar but build quality I imagine is far better. I agree they’re still rather expensive and resale value remains to be seen. But the car itself seems quite nice. All depends on what you’re looking for.

[@mikadavies660]

@rtownz251251 I'm certainly no fan of Tesla and I personally have the Citroën E-C4, but the interior build quality of the 2024 Model 3 is far far better than Vauxhall. It is more at BMW level. Of course Model 3 is Saloon so you can only think Model Y vs Astra Estate. In which case... Model Y hands down!! Look at Auto Car MG4 Long Range vs Model 3 (about 1 mth ago)... Long Range drive test.... Also, I have noticed the public charging has gone up over the last 6 months. Tesla public charging is around 3 x cheaper than BP etc. I charge mostly at home so I am OK.

[@rtownz251251]

@@mikadavies660 Tesla build has improved (from what I’ve heard) but at BMW level? I doubt that, but honestly haven’t driven a new Tesla so I can’t say for sure.

[@mikadavies660]

@rtownz251251 I think it was Carwow that did a test around 1 month ago. BMW, Mercedes, Tesla and something else. They were critical of the old Model 3 but confirmed the new Model 3 is right up there in quality "with the Germans" their review not mine! I have seen a number of tests and all confirm that the quality is definitely up from before.

[@calbackk]

I couldn`t agree more with you on your praise for estate cars. You are absolutely right. Greetings from Sweden.

[@alasdairwilson4806]

Good review as always and a nice looking car.As a Vauxhall driver myself I have been surprised by them.When I was looking for my current car I went to test drive a Sportage which I was very disappointed in.Uncomfortable,gutless and not a good drive.I came back to the garage and jumped into the car I now have. A Grandland petrol auto and the difference was instant.A lot more comfortable,plenty enough power for me and a really nice drive.I hadn't really thought about buying a Vauxhall but my car changed my mind and so far (touch wood) no problems.So I now see Vauxhall as a real option although I think that there can be a bit of badge snobbery against the brand,but that is is something that has never been in my thoughts.

[@aguywhodoesreviews3550]

Great video as always. Looks a lovely car and I agree, why haven’t manufacturers cottoned on that we want more estates! Major put off for me is 40k minimum for an Astra estate. Or they are offering a reduced PCP on a longer term, no thank you. I’ll stick to my diesel fabia until prices stop being ridiculous.

[@sevesellors2831]

Great review and good looking car. Vauxhall have always made good cars so don’t understand why people sneer at the brand they are no worse than most competitors. I’ve had Vauxhalls for forty years and only had one dud built and designed in Germany. The only problem now are the prices since Stellantis was formed prices are ridiculous but I must be in a minority as plenty of people are buying them just like Ryan air despite all the add ones they are no 1 . So we can now state that in Europe and the UK we love to be ripped off.

[@mrmawson2438]

Great review on the Vauxhall Astra

[@martinboulden4388]

You don’t aspire to own a Vauxhall - You simply accept their brand as an adequate rental car !

[@HQBProductions]

Ah…you do if it is a Vauxhall made before General Motors arrived…a Prince Henry or a 30/98 will you cost a lot to buy now…Vauxhall used to be a fine sporting car…but they ran out of money. Now…as you say…you only rent one in Spain…🫤😨😨😃

[@philipparkes5682]

Hi Ped Appreciate your enthusiasm for the estate car, which happens to suit your lifestyle. Personally I do believe that buyers of SUV’s also make their choice largely based on lifestyle and not current fashion. Downside with this car again is the range question, price and future depreciation. One fur the question I would put to your audience is, if we did not face the forthcoming ban on ICE, how many people would be considering purchase of an EV? Compulsion without the overall support of the population is questionable.

[@robertd2363]

I like it, looking forward to a proper test😊

[@richardhowlett9424]

Vauxhall seem to have their mojo back , great looking estate car , I hate SUV’s . Give it a good petrol engine and a decent dashboard, no touchscreen nonsense, real dials and switchgear , and maybe , I might consider a used one in 6 or 7 years time .

[@nealm1814]

I like a good estate too and have owned a few. Vauxhall appear to have done a decent job with this. Well done Vauxhall. Would it get me out of my Model Y? No way!

[@johnball4826]

It is good to see an estate car review. I hope this trend of SUV’s is just a fashion, but I fear not as it is all about false sense of security. Interestingly in France, that SUV fashion has not really caught on which is strange compared to UK our narrow bumpy roads, the french roads are smoother, wider and far less traffic but they mainly drive small and mid size cars. The only thing with this Astra is that I think it will depreciate heavily as £40,000 plus is a lot compared to the base model estate.

[@watchcommander2012]

Great review the Astra seems the perfect school run car for the city instead of all those 4x4s/SUVs. It’s interesting that’s a German reg Vauxhall I’d expect it to be an Opal. I suspect spec in UK will also be different

[@robertmackenzie5850]

Nice estate car . The Corolla hybrid estate would be a good comparison, around 34k for top of the range , the price difference between the top of range Astra electric and the Corolla is around 8k , that’s a lot of petrol compared to the cost of the Astra

[@pmgsussex]

I moved after two 3 series tourings to a Macan due to wet flooded country roads and the Touring's lack of wading depth becoming an issue both locally in Sussex and in East Angia. Otherwise, I do see the ultimate laws of Physics advantages of the lower set estate setup. I think Vauxhall have done an excellent job with the Astra Sports tourer EV. However, for my use, I would like a 350 mile electric range rather than 240. The longer range gives journey planning flexibility advantages especially when visiting rural areas like Mid Wales and East Anglia

[@HawkMillFarm]

just seen price in the comments probably missed it because I was scrolling FF! Cant generate any interest for EVs sadly, still clicked you a like tho. I'm back, just watched Henry's Purosangue road test, yes I know its x10 as expensive but it shows that (to some of us) the engine characteristics, noise and general theatre are so important when choosing a vehicle.

[@Neil2022]

Practicality factor 9/10, desirability factor 1/10. Guaranteed they won’t sell many. They will soon be massive discounts on new cars. Couple of months ago they were selling the Corsa e for sub 20k new before the new model came out

[@jamiep61]

I enjoyed watching the Video Review. I still believe that Is market for Estate Cars 😊

[@Paul-67]

Nice one PP. that’s the first ev I’ve seen that i would consider owning.

[@PetrolPed]

Nice one!

[@ashb8572]

If only this car came with a sensible price and the charging infrastructure wasn't trash (queuing / broken chargers), only then would it make sense. My MG5 Long range had an extra 10kwh battery capacity but only returned 165 miles during the winter at 70mph

[@timmo3351]

Hear hear for estates! Think the Octavia EV estate will be the one to watch, judging by the numbers of ICE ones you see about (including us).

[@Chris-ot9jf]

Really smart car, I have a Peugeot 508sw GT, it’s a diesel but I expect if they’ve done a Astra it won’t be long until the 508 goes fully electric..

[@gregswetka4219]

Love it! Looks like an electric clone of my Buick TourX that I absolutely love! Too bad it would never survive in the US market…

[@PetrolPed]

👍

[@bizzie1956]

Can’t wait to get my new Grandland

[@juliandclarke]

Good review. Totally agree with your point about estate /wagon practicality. Like the red exterior. Interior looks a bit grey. I do prefer paddles to adjust regen & switch on steering wheel to adjust drive mode. But otherwise looks good

[@PetrolPed]

Thanks for watching!

[@guylambrechts2303]

Astral never did it for me and it's still not on my wish list. But as a sensible EV choice it's bang on. Not sure about the pricing but there's not much competition at this moment.

[@bondirimski]

Definitely appreciate the review and realise you only had a short time with the car..but as a suggestion, maybe one of those 4 cameras used could be mounted so we could see the driver display as you are driving?

[@PetrolPed]

Thanks for the feedback 👍

[@RhysoPicton]

Long live the estate!! 👌🏻

[@PetrolPed]

👍

[@DjNikGnashers]

Nice review Pete, and a welcome sight to see an estate rather than yet another SUV clone. I think that isn't a too bad looker, the side and front/side is a good looking thing. Rear end, not that much of a fan, the lights with a black surround not sure, and the rest of it is a bit bland compared to the front, but that said it's not 'ugly' in any way. Interior looks ok, rear room isn't bad, seats look ok, it's not bad at all ! I'm not a fan of screens but I know all new cars have them, not a lot we can do it is what it is. I know I will be forced into an EV eventually, even though I really don't like them, but it's inevitable and this might be an option. Not yet though, I bought a 2016 M2 last weekend 🙂 and I am going to have as much fun as I can while I still can, for as long as I can !

[@PetrolPed]

👍

[@davidvestey6014]

I wasn’t forced into an EV but you’d have to force me back into an ICE car. EV is so much faster, smoother, more relaxing and more fun. Astra estate for me next I think

[@DjNikGnashers]

@@davidvestey6014 Well that's not strictly true matey. You might prefer an EV, because an EV works for you ie how you charge it and the usage, and that is perfectly fine & dandy. To say an EV is much faster is not true. Even my little tuned M140i hatch was faster than almost all EV's, up to and including Tesla model 3 dual motors, only the Model S was faster, and you would expect that seeing as it starts at £93,480 !! You say smoother but again, I disagree, the ZF8 auto torque converter in many modern cars is an amazing gearbox, and in comfort mode you can not tell it is changing gear at all, it is so smooth. You say more relaxing, which is a fair point, but not the full story. Relaxing because it's silent yes I get that, but a nice 5 series BMW for example, with an auto g/box, is a lot more relaxing because the ride is so much better than the Tesla. More Fun ?? No. No No No. What is fun about a heavy, understeery, silent EV ? Absolutely disagree. Fun is cornering and nimbleness, changing of direction, fun is a pleasant exhaust note rasping away up to the redline, no way could you say the average EV is fun, sorry but NO. It's NOT fun trying to get a charger at your local charge point to work in the pissing rain, and having to wait for an hour in a grotty starbucks with screaming kids while your battery car charges up again.

[@coltoncleveringa8004]

Definitely a good looking estate Sir Pete

[@PetrolPed]

I think so too!

[@grantlouw3182]

The luggage space seems on a par if not more than an equivalent SUV.

[@mickblizzard1408]

Hi Pete 👍 Three things come immediately to mind, 1 it looks dull, 2 it looks boring and 3 it’s a Vauxhall 🤷 Not even considering that it’s an EV 🤦🏻‍♂️. I’m old, single and have no family to worry about, I’ll stick with the R58 😈

[@PetrolPed]

😂😂😂

[@beatles4sale2007]

AT have 2023 plate ones (1.2 petrol) for sub £24K…so it probably has limited appeal to a private user. But for someone with a budget of £45K for a work car, unless you are a sales person needing the space, you have a lot of better options I think. But there need to be more EV estates, definitely a market there….

[@matthewjburt6482]

Obviously, we need more choice in EV estates, but until they get to the value of the MG5, those manufacturers are fighting a losing battle. To be £10k more for a European model is too much. Especially when you get things like V2L as well as ACC etc for about £30k it's a no brainer.

[@johnbrown3951]

Very interesting proposition if they did an AWD model then I think if they build them people will buy them. I like the colour schemes especially that red and the blue, with the black roofs.

[@mrmawson2438]

Looks alright

[@XENONEZZ2]

This must surely be aimed at the company car/fleet market along with the big discounts that always traditionally attracts. Can't see how it's a viable proposition for anyone else bearing in mind what the competition offers.

[@johnnodge4327]

If company fleets buy them in decent quantities, it means a flood of well maintained vehicles will hit the second hand market after the 3 year lease is up. These will make a good value used buy I reckon.

[@XENONEZZ2]

@@johnnodge4327 Yes totally agree with you....and I think this has always been the case in the past too. At the right price something like this EV Astra will make an excellent purchase....but the price has to be right..!!..😉

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@johnnodge4327 Absolutely. One of these at 2 to 3 years old would be a good option. Just get the seller to do a check on the battery pack via the car's diagnostic socket with an OBD. This can provide you with a print-out of the battery's state of health in percentage terms.....

[@jeremyradford5103]

Finally, Pedro? The MG5 estate came out 2 years ago. James from Cleveley Motors uses one as a mobile EV repair and servicing vehicle and has already covered over 100k miles.

[@PetrolPed]

It’s just a title. Did you listen to what I said in the video 🤷‍♂️

[@jeremyradford5103]

@PetrolPed lol, Pedro. At least you didn't say, "Tesla beater."

[@Brian-om2hh]

Cleveleys use more than one MG5. They use several of them......

[@jacobbayliss953]

Not a fan of Vauxhall personally... But it's really odd seeing someone drive around the area I live in on the "telly"😂 Nice review though and good to see an electric estate!

[@PetrolPed]

Thanks 👍

[@ianchalklen1047]

I thought it was a mistake when Volvo announced they were to stop producing estate cars and maybe this and others coming to market will make them rethink. BUT ……Deputy PM Oliver Dowden recently made a speech about how the uk population should be more resilient to power blackouts; so how does that fit with the drive to EVs?

[@Brian-om2hh]

So would ICE car usage be impervious to blackouts and power restrictions, given both oil refineries and petrol stations also rely on supplies of electricity?

[@ianchalklen1047]

@@Brian-om2hh With managed blackouts then certain infrastructure can remain running but domestic supplies on smart meters can be turned off.

[@dcj2dan]

Great review, I agree 100%! The only thing stopping me going electric is the fact that I want an estate and so far I’m not excited by the current offerings. I was excited by the I5 Touring coming but not at £75-80k! Anyone know if the new Audi A4 will offer an electric option?? Still can’t understand that Audi (the king of the estate) haven’t done it yet 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@tonyshergold6023]

It's because the VAG group is way behind on EVs, and is saddled with debt

[@kcebliks]

A6 Avant next year and A4 Avant EVs in 2025 according to press releases.

[@ginggur17]

Hello buddy, nice colour, not too sure on the rear. Practical though. 👍👍🇬🇧

[@JosephRawsthorne31]

Porsche’s taycan cross turismo, hello I am an estate.

[@PetrolPed]

More of a shooting brake 😬😜

[@EnmandsBand1]

Now that's a proper car, I want a stationwagon as my next EV and this looks promising as they did NOT put those stupid fake exhausts on this one like they did on the peugeot 308 sw Now please tell me that it can pull a trailer, if not I'm not interested

[@s.m.dickerson6712]

BEV or PHEV MINI Clubman (JCW, of course) please!!! I know… only in my dreams…

[@tonymoreton7166]

Still 15k + over petrol. I'll stick with god's holy fluid.

[@francisdoran971]

To be a true family car, it has to be able to pull s small trailer to the landfill or recycling centre. Can it tow?

[@Emjackson89]

I really really like the design. It's definitely and stands out. However, I feel it's overpriced for the quality of interior you get. It's a shame that aren't doing a hot hatch version because that could be incredible

[@robertmarsh3588]

Nice looking car but very expensive. Great to see a non- SUV new car though. The elephant in the room is that many EV prices are insane, and Vauxhall are among the worst offenders; it feels like journalists are gaslighting us when ignoring or barely mentioning this, instead talking about PCPs making things more affordable. Beyond this, EVs remain a realistic option only for the minority of motorists that can charge at home.

[@jeremyradford5103]

According to research by the RAC, 65% of UK homes could potentially fit a home charger if they wanted.

[@kdbsuff9625]

Many buyers of cars, not forgetting that these are either boomers or business, are older. They need the higher seat to step up into. It's obvious when you suddenly get hip, knee or back issues. So don't whine too much, it's a response to a need.

[@nigel.w]

Pity it's so expensive! The spec is very similar to the MG5, but significantly more expensive. It looks better, but IMO that's not enough to justify such a high price. And, let's face it, Vauxhall hasn't got a brand reputation that is significantly better than MG. I like it, but sadly I don't think MG's going to feel the heat from Stellantis' offerings. But I'm sure it'll be popular in the used market when it'll probably be only a grand or two more than the equivalent MG5. Probably only stacks up on PCP, or as a fleet acquisition.

[@harrycummings6501]

The Astra hatch looks quite good I think, this estate looks horrendous from the back, side and three quarters.......it just looks too heavy at the three quarters.

[@kenbriooo2005]

Give it a year and it'll be half the value if the e Corsa and e Mokka are anything to go by. Nice looking car, but I'd wait a year to pick up a used one at a much reduced price.

[@stevie007]

Hi Peds 👌👌

[@PetrolPed]

Hello there 👋

[@Nord_Mann]

Very interested in this model! Great that you made this video. NIO also has an estate. The ET5 Touring. You should try that one also for comparison.

[@PetrolPed]

Will do 👍

[@jeremyradford5103]

The ET5 also has battery swap ability, which is starting to catch in some European countries but not in the UK yet. I like the look of the Touring also.

[@Nord_Mann]

@@jeremyradford5103they both look good I think.

[@francisdoran971]

A new base model Ioniq 5 58kw with heatpump option is listed at €44,495 on the Hyundai website. Bigger battery, bigger boot, sliding rear seat, better looking? I think I'd go for the Hyundai, to be honest. The Astra is overpriced by between £5,000 and £7500, I think.

[@svenskenh644]

Who would ever consider this car?! It is cramped and charges slowly and only has 160 hp… And you do not get very far. The same money will buy you a superior Tesla Model Y… Come on Opel…

[@technohamster4783]

The same money would buy you an even more superior petrol vehicle😉

[@briangriffiths114]

Stellantis share EV drivetrains across their various ranges which should result in economies of scale. However, this car, nice as it looks, is now priced against the entry level Tesla model 3 which has just been reduced to £39,990. So what would most buyers prefer, taking projected depreciation into account?

[@user-uy8fb6xv6j]

£40-45k for an Astra and probably at least 60% depreciation over 3 years. I just couldn't do it.

[@wordreet]

Well there it is. Very similar luggage capacity to my current Astra Estate. It's the car I would buy immediately if I had both the cash and the ability to charge it at home! But I have neither. And if I won millions on the lottery or summat, I'd still have to buy a different house, prolly much nearer my sister's place, so I wouldn't need the range for visits and . . . Hmm 🤔 Hehe, no I'd most likely by this anyway.

[@mrmawson2438]

Morning mate mg5 estate ?

[@rouman7]

Ihave allways preferred Vauxhall than Ford as a youngster..but with age comes maturity it’s German cars for me now mercs bmw and Audi oh and Porsche. ..I’ll drive petrol till we can no longer do it

[@dangreasley7934]

Great vid as always, thanks. Good to see a review of a standard family car.. but it's a vauxhall. And £40K for a Vauxhall estate, crikes! I've had two Vauxhalls in my time, never again. I'm definitely in the Ford camp.

[@PetrolPed]

Fair enough!

[@Grant.G.Simpson]

i have given it a thumbs up and comment for your video/presentation/algorithm, not for the cars range or price....bad!

[@PetrolPed]

LOL…many thanks 🙏🏻 😂

[@ohyesitsme]

Not much of advancement when Hyundai got over 5 miles /KWH from their Ioniq back in 2018. No regen adjustment is a no no. The external road noise from the tyres appeared to be very loud. Not a bad looking motor but is a compliance car. As usual, way overpriced.

[@mikejf4377]

Another car that won't make it across the pond. Looks like very nice car.

[@boblambert7889]

£40000 upwards, save yourself loads and buy a Skoda Octavia 1.5 e-tsi estate with DSG for around £30000. It sure won’t lose over 50% of its value in two years.

[@PetrolPed]

Wait for this Fridays video. I think you will like it 😜👍

[@14Unow]

MG makes a good MG5 estate but Vauxhall looks to have nailed it. Price and range will be the determining factor.

[@PetrolPed]

Indeed 👍

[@Brian-om2hh]

Price won't be a factor for those who lease.....

[@ysarn]

Out of interest had a look at how much this car weighs, and it is only 1760kg. For the same sort of comparison to load volume and battery size the Skoda Enyaq is 200kg heavier and less aero. Roll on more electric estates.

[@kevinconnolly759]

I love an estate but in reality who in their right mind would spend 40 odd grand on this when there are so many better options out there.

[@PetrolPed]

Yep 😬

[@davidtordoff7929]

Good looking car, but battery is still not big enough, something in this segment needs 77kw min, and 300 miles range, from someone who drives a Vivaro-E

[@annieluctor7524]

Nice looking car, but why would anyone in their right mind pay ten grand more than the ICE version for the equivalent battery-mobile, and then experience monster depreciation? Makes no sense to me. And why does the only hybrid (a much more sensible answer to the EV question) attract VED of £560 when it's pushing out so little in the way of emissions?

[@jeremyradford5103]

Probably because real-world emissions for a hybrid are far higher than the manufacturer quoted figures. Real driving emissions (RDE) may be up to 4x higher quoted, with companies like Toyota receiving large fines for underestimating emissions and overestimating mpg.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Depreciation isn't quite the same sock factor if you lease, and most of these will be acquired via leasing. And buying the ICE version will no longer be an option after about 2027..... We will see quite a few ICE cars from various makers begin to disappear after 2025, when Euro 7 emissions laws roll out. Many car makers say it will add £2 to £3k onto the price of ICE cars to meet Euro 7......

[@davidrunnalls3039]

Interesting, Volvo the company of estates announced it's not bringing estates into the UK and every other car company decides to make estates!

[@Brian-om2hh]

UK police forces will still be supplied with Volvo estates.....

[@brendenburt6021]

Nice looking car, but is it aimed at the company car driver?

[@jameschapman4824]

Good video Pete however who in their right mind will pay the thick end of £40k (with options) for a Vauxhall. Not me.

[@EddInLancs01]

Badge snob much?

[@Brian-om2hh]

That's just it. Most won't pay the list price, they will lease........

[@HQBProductions]

Hello Peter.. A very fair test and good reasoning as this is a useful car…but £45000 is never going to work! When it is 5000 miles and £19995 then it could sell and bring much satisfaction….brand new then…😅😅😅😅😂😂😂

[@PetrolPed]

👍

[@solentbum]

At last a review of a proper car that doesn't have an exhaust pipe full of pebbles. Serious question, does it have a towbar option for small boats, baggage trailers, etc? And did the rear seat have a central flap for threading long items like oars, and timber through?

[@PetrolPed]

Good question. Not sure to be honest 😬 Sorry 😢

[@trevorcrook2565]

As with the Corsa, shame about the price, although I doubt that anyone will pay anywhere near list.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Correct. My local Vauxhall dealer is knocking new pre-reg Corsa E's out for £10k off list price. Some have just 3 to 4 miles on them.

[@masonandmotors]

I went and sat in the Astra hatchback several months ago and what struck me was the amount of gloss black plastic surrounding the screens. It looks really cheap and nasty. Couldn't really tell from the review but not sure if they're still doing it. It really put me off. Such a shame because the exterior is really nice.

[@Djeseret]

It's the standard version, if you pay extra the whole panel will be in black glass with a smooth surface instead. With built-in filters to protect light reflections in the windscreen. Built on an underlying magnesium panel. That one, on the other hand, looks as expensive and sophisticated as it is. That panel was delayed by a whole year because it was supposed to be made in Ukraine, so production had to be moved to another country, therefore there are few cars with the expensive panel out yet. In the simpler panel the instrument screen is recessed a little bit, this is because it lacks the expensive light filter and therefore has to have a cover above it to prevent the screen from being seen in the windscreen at night

[@CASFAN]

Looks ok and practical, but there’s nothing that excites and makes me want to own one. Also I’ve noticed that EV reviews are very ‘efficiency’ based. I do get why (clearly they take longer to refuel than an ICE), but at the end of the day, the same physics apply to EV and they do to ICE. An SUV ICE is less aerodynamic than an estate ICE and will be less efficient. I guess that as charging speeds and battery efficiency improve, this will be less of a focus.

[@davidsworld5837]

you stated price but the EV prices start at 40K but there was an extra £500 for the 7.4 kW onboard charger. This will not do as well as the far cheaper MG5 does. for the 40K you are too close to the price of the Tesla. But yes there is far too few Estate cars that are electric. the market is ful of SUV's.

[@ukgroucho]

Seems overpriced - certainly at the fully loaded end of the range. But the estate car vibe I can support. Had an Audi A6 allroad BiTdi (and an A4 1.9 Tdi before that which I owned for 8 years). The allroad was a brilliant car. Yes it was diesel but it was FAST and economical and had loads of space. The other thing I'm hearing from folks I'm meeting who have dogs (we have our first dog, a now 3 year old Labrador) is that estates are much easier for them to jump into as they get older. My Volvo XC60 T8 has the air suspension so you can drop the rear end but I know it does not go as low as my allroad did... Time to think dog owners.

[@bloodynorahvan2203]

Good to see the more traditional cars starting to electrify. The truth is though that new EV buyers is predominantly business users. We are missing that sweet spot for private money. You know the Ford Focus equivalent rather than the 3 series type. I think Stellantis are showing some real promise, but clearly can’t compete with the Chinese or Tesla for lower production costs. It’s certainly interesting times! Thanks for the review!

[@SDK2006b]

A base spec Ford Focus is about £27k now - there are some new EV's at this price point too

[@markhomer6357]

40k for an astra estate madness 😮

[@chrisbailey5055]

As an American I apologize for the SUV scourge...if you are interested in history of why SUVs took over, read up on the USA Luxury tax of 1991...it was the impetus to the rise of SUVs.

[@PetrolPed]

😂😂😂

[@sneakybeach]

Peugeot estate

[@prakashnarismulu3332]

6 foot 3 how much is that in metric PP

[@PetrolPed]

192 👍

[@TeaBreak.]

Just want to point out that nearly every motoring journalist champions bespoke ev platforms for cars. The end result is a big heavy car with poor efficiency. They also rubbish Ev's based on a shared platform with fossil cars. These are typically a lot lighter and far more efficient. Have these journalists got an agenda? Something isn't better when it is worse. Classic Ioniq and Kona 5 miles/kWh are prime examples compared to Ioniq 5 and EV6 3.5 miles/kWh.

[@douglaskinloch6272]

Not convinced about the price for a Vauxhall, can it wear a premium? I mean, it isn't my old, much beloved Calibra :) ON the other hand kudos for a proper estate car. i5 Tourer will be eye waveringly expensive and no sign of an i4, which still wouldn't be cheap. I'm with you, we need more; where are Mercedes, Audi & Volvo when you need them?

[@PetrolPed]

Ooo I loved the Calibra 👌

[@Brian-om2hh]

Most of these cars will be acquired on leases. The list price won't be a factor.....

[@douglaskinloch6272]

@@PetrolPed Yeah, my wife stilll misses it!

[@sneakybeach]

Price will plummet in 2 years

[@billbarr7591]

More like two miniutes after it leaves the dealership.

[@jeremyradford5103]

Then keep it longer than 2 years. The used EV market is very strong, and prices are starting to rise.

[@sneakybeach]

@@jeremyradford5103 the bottom has fallen out the ev market do your home work I can buy a polestar 2 2020 model for 22k was 50k lost 28k in 3 years,an Audi e Tron has lost even more

[@technohamster4783]

​@@jeremyradford5103is that because the original buyer as stated will take a massive hit as his expensive car is worth nothing?

[@jeremyradford5103]

@technohamster4783 I'm not sure what you mean by that. All cars depreciate roughly 40% in the first 3 years of ownership. The reason for higher depreciation amongst EVs in the first half of this year is multifaceted, but used prices are actually starting to rise due to increased demand, whereas used car prices in general are falling.

[@2011ppower]

Seriously, costs at least £100 pcm more to lease than a Tesla model Y 🤯🤣

[@Neil2022]

Comfortable in the back……Knees either side of the front drivers seat…..

[@MrFatknacker]

Great review - another overpriced EV from Vauxhall so probably not being aimed at the private buyer as a new car sale, but will hopefully make more financial sense after they have done a couple of years as Company/Hire cars 😊

[@timofthomas]

And Volvo has given up on Estates altogether :( Also - is there a flat floor for the rear seat passengers?

[@Brian-om2hh]

I think it is just for the UK market. Other markets may still get them, as will UK police forces....

[@dcj2dan]

Just found the article! Audi A4 all electric but not until 2025!!

[@PetrolPed]

👍

[@user-ih7gc7dt9l]

Is Vauxhall reliable?

[@PetrolPed]

They are as good as any other manufacturer 👍

[@jimmyconnolly3461]

Petrol is electric