Stromer ST5 ABS Review - $10.5k

[@chgofirefighter]

I own an ST2 it’s been with me for over 7 years. I issues and still rides new. The computer/gps needs to be upgraded but I’m not paying the ridiculous asking price for such an upgrade, Stromer should include lifetime upgrades for free due to their pricing!

[@Lankyhail]

How much do they charge?

[@chgofirefighter]

@@Lankyhail Google and called them, Lenny's Bike shop

[@petropoliskhan]

hi, you don't lifetime upgrades when you buy any premium car (Ferrari , Rolls ?Lambo, Bugatti )even if they're ridiculously expensive.

[@cerebralpalsybiker7571]

Great to see you do a Stromer again. I got a st1 and love ride it all the time well not on ice but snow great bike.

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Nice! I'm glad you're enjoying your ST1, and I agree with avoiding the snow and ice... I took two falls when reviewing this model, and was able to include them in the ride footage towards the end :P electricbikereview.com/trek/rail-9-9-xx1-axs/ thankfully, did not get hurt.

[@derekg.4735]

Court, I can't thank you enough for this amazing review! I LOVE how in-depth it is and it was a big deciding factor when I decided to pull the plug and order it through Tony at Reckless Cycles. Tony is great and the entire process was fantastic! You manage to cover EVERYTHING that a prospective buyer wants to see. I really appreciate that. I can't wait for my bike to arrive. Thank you so much! Derek/Vancouver BC.

[@ericcatambis4584]

Have had a stromer ST1 for just a bit under 2 years now have just under 10k km . The bike is a tank . No failures at all . Rides like a tank . Yea they are expensive but they’re built to last

[@maxnewts]

It’s always exciting to see what happens in the £5k+ category of eBike sales!! Super cool!!

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Yeah, I agree with you Max! These things are expanding the possibilities and proving different concepts. I never understood the ABS braking thing, or really felt drawn to it on paper... but it really does work and there are times when I've panicked and instinctively locked brakes before (mostly on mountain bikes). All the rest of the bike is awesome and refined, as you'd expect ;)

[@Thoughmuchistaken]

Not sure why folks are complaining about the price, there are a lot of bikes in this range. And there are way way more for less than half the cost of this. It might not have everything you would want on a bike for $10k, I know it doesn't for me, but for others it would be a dream bike to ride everyday. Great review as usual.

[@TheWesprior]

it would be great to do a review on the Stromer ST7

[@efiu12]

So 10.5k$ for a rear hub pedelec.. The swiss are not that well known for their sense of humour, but this will really send them to the top of the list

[@petropoliskhan]

For +150K you can get a top of the line Porsche or two or three! Teslas!

[@efiu12]

@@petropoliskhan Well yeah, but who would call a rear hub pedelec top of the line? I can appreciate that ABS though. Hopefully there will be some nutters around to buy this so that Stromer will keep trying stuff out. Maybe some ideas will trickle down to cheaper products slaves like me will be able to someday afford

[@pwc1021]

Great review, as always. Nice to see the new technology on these higher end bikes. I'm on the verge of purchasing my first e-bike and am very excited and stoked right now. Just unhappy that I've had to gear down my expectations because here in conservative Canada, class 3 e-bikes are illegal 😢.

[@NeutralGenericUser]

Stromers are amazing. I have a friend with an ST1 that he rides to work every single day here in Toronto, and it gets absolutely covered in salt/mud/etc. all through winter. Still going strong, as good as new for the second winter. That ST5 model is just exceptional. I do wish they'd offer mid drive options, but this is still good. I can definitely see why someone would buy a $10.5k USD Stromer over a car.

[@PQV-8898]

Great review again. I'm looking into buying the ST2 at the moment. The tech in Stromer is unreal but the only drawback is it's 65lbs weight. This is the only thing that's holding me back.

[@petropoliskhan]

Hi, yes it's heavy when you carry it but when you ride it ,it is very sporty ,agile and its weight is never an issue

[@stardiver4035]

Toller Bericht, hat mir sehr gut gefallen. Ich bekomme in der nächsten Woche mein ST5 und freue mich riesig. Ich hatte bis vor kurzem das ST2 Raw Sport Ltd. Edition auch das Bike war der Hammer. Bleibt gesund, viele Grüße aus Oldenburg Chris

[@fortunefiderikumo]

my jaw droped at that price tag

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Yes indeed... There are a lot of expensive ebikes out there, it's neat to see what's possible. I actually saw one of these locked to a pole in Vancouver the other day, just dirty and being used as a daily rider. I guess if you've got the money and already have a $100k+ Porsche or something, this would be relatively cheap and is a LOT of fun to ride ;)

[@stephen5665]

You can buy a $25k USD Rolex watch. $10k for a nice e bike doesn't seem to bad when you think about it.

[@petropoliskhan]

I own an St5. Ride it everyday. Nothing comes close. Riese and mueller as expensive and not nearly as fast and that loud Bosch whine from the motor. Before complaining about the price see the prices for high end MTB’s and carbon road bikes for specialized, trek, giant . A lot of times more expensive . People complain about the price of these high end bikes without having ridden one and have zero issues with spending 100k or more on a car. A lot of R&D goes into these bikes. Lots of proprietary tech comes at a price as is the case for anything ( Car, watch, computer and yes bike)

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Thanks for sharing your perspectives and replying to the comments from people who are confused or upset with the price. I think you express yourself very well and help to demonstrate how the product can exist and actually make a lot of sense for certain situations and lifestyles, and you do it kindly. Great job Alex!

[@niallc3331]

How has the reliability been? I have heard from a dealer that sells both R&M and Stromer that they have lots of problems with the electronics on Stromer bikes.

[@elevenAD]

Overpriced imo, no stem adjustment, one friggin color, rigid fork, tons of proprietary parts, this is a company that i would buy used first to test the waters before dumping $10,000 into a new one.

[@petropoliskhan]

They’ve been in the ebike game long before many other well know brands . 2009! Even big companies with millions of vehicles on the road some of them worth hundreds of billions have issues and recalls (GM, Tesla, Riese and Muller, specialized,trek etc) Yes it’s expensive like a Porsche Taycan is expensive. It’s also a special riding experience like driving a high end expensive vehicle. You should try it. You do know that test rides are a thing at most serious bike shops

[@elevenAD]

I have zero desire to ride that. It has nothing to offer for me.

[@petropoliskhan]

@elevenAD you do know that options are not an unusual occurence for bikes , cars, computers ,air travel etc... Stromers also have other models with adjustable stems, and a variety of colors. It is because they use their proprietary motors that they're faster, safer and yes more expensive

[@migks37]

@@elevenAD neither you have much to offer for it.

[@petropoliskhan]

@@elevenAD That’s nice. Good for you. No one’s forcing you to test, ride buy or offer helpful comments 😉

[@sawyerpac9878]

I'm glad you're finally not using a throttle now you're getting real exercise.this your buddy Jerry from Santa Cruz.

[@Surf422]

This type of motor, the gearless hub motor, is the only type of motor to buy if you expect your e-bike to last more than a few years. It’s also the only motor to buy if you like silence when riding instead of annoying whine.

[@SFioniqDriver]

I like to see the evolution of bikes and the new technology being used in them. Being from San Francisco and loosing a $4000 ebike from theft that you have previously reviewed I don't think it's practical to have expensive bikes like this where I live. I used to drool getting a Riese and Mueller supercharger but not if I can't trust leaving it chained outside for even 5 minutes.

[@migks37]

Did you watch the entire review? It is extremely hard to still this bike and not be found. This a 10k and still is number one here in Europe. Of course it’s not for everyone.

[@SFioniqDriver]

@@migks37 yes, here in San Francisco the police will not help you go after the bike. You will have to go after the crackheads yourself. Risk your life for a bike?

[@cerebralpalsybiker7571]

@@SFioniqDriver I feel bad that happened to you I'm am. I I worried about that first but where I live cars are more to travel than bicycles. But the trade-off is we don't have that many bike Lanes. I still love riding my Stromer but I get your point and I still feel bad that happened to you.

[@ForbinColossus]

I wish Court would call out ANTI-THEFT features on ebikes like he does with bottle cage bosses. These ebikes are far too expensive and sophisticated not to! I'm loooking for an ebike light enough to carry upstairs. No way Id leave this on the streets of SF (Im there too)

[@cerebralpalsybiker7571]

@@ForbinColossus I think if people wanted to bring them in your apartment or house mainly apartments that are upstairs I think a pulley system would be awesome you can hook it from the top of the stairs and just use the pulley to bring the bike up might be a bad idea and I'm not that smart how cool would that be. You could use the battery power from the ebike I don't know might be a bad idea.

[@seascape]

Great to see more safety features. I’m still evaluating bikes, and your videos are very helpful. I’ve talked to owners of several brands of ebikes, and it seems that for the most part, all the bikes are made really well. Is the price difference due to the level of components, or is long-term reliability (the people I’ve spoken with have owned their ebikes for less than 1.5 years) better with the higher priced brands? How does the long-term build quality / durability / maintenance costs of the premium brands, like Stromer and Reese & Muller, compare to the more economical brands like Rad Power? And how difficult is it for an out-of-shape, middle-aged person to pick up a 70+ pound bike should it fall over? Would like to hear readers’ comments as well.

[@tormentorxl2732]

All serious e-bikes are in that weight range. They aren’t really a problem to handle, besides picking them up off the ground, too hang, put in a truck, into a hatchback, etc. but to ride? No they have better characteristics when riding, IMO because of the weight.

[@beerme241]

I bought my ST5 in the summer of 2019 because I was an overweight middle aged guy. I have 5000 miles on it and just now had to change the tires (also got my first flat). The only other thing I changed was the chain. I am very impressed with the build quality of this bike and the fact that it still rides quietly.

[@kallaway1]

What a great review! Always appreciate EBR's attention to detail. Court, would love to hear your thoughts on the upcoming ST3 Pinion as with ABS and air suspension it comes out very close to (even a little more than) the ST5 in price! Belt drive on a Stromer seems like it would be great...

[@davidhunternyc1]

I would love for you to review the LeMond Dutch e-bike. It's only 250 watts but it only weighs 27 lbs too!

[@goobfilmcast4239]

I have seen a few comments about the proprietary parts, the idea that it is a theft magnet etc.... well, if you can afford this bike, money is not an issue.

[@petropoliskhan]

I own one and take extra care .I only ever attach it with a high quality Abus Lock to a solidly fixed object in a public area for a few minutes ( in &out of store quickie). It is parked indoor at home and at work. I also use the electronic lock feature which doesn't prevent a thief from carrying it away but renders it useless when theft reporting is activated in the app. The proprietary parts make it hard to install stolen parts onto another bike. The motor and battery have serial numbers which Stromer has on file. These can can only be installed by a registered dealer. They will be flagged as stolen in the stromer portal and reported as such. When you buy any expensive bike it is also probably a good idea to get theft insurance, which is relatively cheap .

[@TheSkskitey]

What can I say , great bike but too expensive even at half the price :-(

[@ElectricBikeReview]

That's fair. I've seen comments from people in Europe who get the incentives and feel like they are saving money on expensive gas, car insurance, parking etc. I felt like that when I lived in Austin, Texas years ago and cycled to work every day where parking was $20... and has probably gone up to $50 now.

[@alexandervonbraun]

Its a nice bike, however it is going to be compared to the van mooof I believe, especially the new one they are releasing. So is it worth three times the price to gain ABS, and an xtr drivetrain? I don’t think so unfortunately. At 10k it should include the suspension seatpost, front USD fork, and since the motor is built inhouse the warranty should have the same lifetime as the frame. I think that would make consumers feel more inclined to invest such a vast sum of money on a boutique brand. Apart from that, the bike looks very well built.

[@petropoliskhan]

VanMoof very nice Dutch bikes but not in the same league as Stromer. In the Netherlands Stromer has over 40% market share of speed pedelecs.?Even at those high prices. The dutch know a thing or two about bikes.

[@cerebralpalsybiker7571]

I have Stromer st1 I ride it everyday even in the snow. And I got the 814 w/h battery with the suspension front fork out the door in the USA five thousand dollars. I love the fact you can upgrade your motor and display if you want and yes it cost more. You can even put the st5 tires on the st1. Haven't done that yet cuz I want to get my miles out of the tires on it now. The bike tougher then me. I was riding in 12 degrees and did awesome. Me while I got sick I'm going out today to ride in the snow yay I feel like a kid having fun.

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Really thoughtful comment here, good suggestion about the motor warranty. I hope to review Vanmoof ebikes again sometime soon!

[@jamesglazier8402]

Is this good for winter weather? What's the limit on the temperature for the battery?

[@MrSeany05]

Do stromer bikes not make use of a throttle??

[@skepticsr_us]

they seem to be Class 1 and 3. Class 2 has a throttle. For my next bike I want a throttle AND cruise control. I forgot to stay young so I need all the help I can get:-)

[@franco912]

What would be the alternatives to "Stromer's bikes" ?

[@guisouza2087]

Hey man, do it in the next video please, building a bike for dowhill from scratch

[@lowlevelcritter7577]

$10k for a hub motor & alloy frame? And rigid fork?

[@Dr4g0nW00d]

you need a new review you can buy them now with the pinion option and belt drive as well going to test ride The ST 7 this Saturday and definitely will buy it 14 k yeah so be it

[@tormentorxl2732]

IMO the stromer is the best commuter ebike.

[@migks37]

No doubt. I forgot about Bosh system

[@KdeBee]

No CR246 charger?

[@danmurphy1994]

Imagine living in Europe and your paying $20 a gallon for fuel and then you decide to get an e bike to save some money and take advantage of bike paths and then you realize that the bikes are more than capable of maintaining 30+mph everywhere else except your country which restricts you to the average humans sprinting pace of 15.5 mph. Most people can maintain that speed on normal bikes, what’s the point of getting an e bike if they can’t go any faster than normal bikes because of these stupid government restrictions

[@powchainsamaniego6744]

Cool teachogly for ebike where I can find srceen like this for my diy electric bike?

[@ElectricBikeReview]

When you're asking about the screen, do you mean the smartphone app, the display that's built into the top tube, or something else?

[@niallc3331]

Was undecided between this and riese and muller superdelite hs, according the bike shop near me which sells both, the riese and muller are much more reliable and they've had many issues with stromer bikes and their electronics. I decided on the superdelite due to this and the fact it offers rohloff gearing and belt drive for lower maintenance and higher gear range. The one trade off Iost is the ability to maintain that 45 km/h for effortlessly

[@woodsculptor675]

Nice review, but I would rather get a Rad Mission For one tenth the price and then buy pizza with the left over money. Ha!

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Dude, pizza party! Invite me :D

[@MrJob91]

interesting bike

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Yeah, I think it's very interesting as well. Beyond looking cool and being fun to learn about, it rides incredibly smooth, fast, and quiet.

[@GunterDierickx]

No carbon belt drive, zjust old chains...

[@T2daBikeGuy]

Stromers are extra nice but they price tags will keep them undiscovered and they will never be King King of the ebike game just with expensive prices its old technologies

[@petropoliskhan]

Hi, they're king of the game in Belgium and the Netherlands which are the highest per capita market for speed pedelecs in the world. Stromer has consistently had an over 30% market share of SP's over the last 4or5 years. Even with high prices. They were among the first to had in frame batteries and this id the first commercially available SP with ABS. The OMNI connectivity may be old but it was very innovative when it came out

[@drobostoko5714]

So no trottle/uphill struggling. 10k good to know.

[@spengabenga6616]

honestly it's very expensive, for that money he has to teleport you to Maras, a little more and the bikes will cost like a new car, I have no doubt it's a good bike but a lot of money is it In Switzerland I see them all the time, I ride Haibike Sduro trekking 4.0 and I am very satisfied, but this is an exaggeration with the price

[@petropoliskhan]

Why do you think so many Swiss are riding them ? Maybe it’s because it’s more fun /better riding experience. If you can afford it. Why not ?

[@spengabenga6616]

@@petropoliskhan Of course, every commodity has its buyer, but I'm just saying my opinion that this bike is too expensive, I can buy it is not the point, but the question is whether it's worth the money? Plus you have insurance 250 fr, plus tables

[@petropoliskhan]

@@spengabenga6616 thank you for your response.But you do know that Porsches/?Ferraris/ BMW etc exist and are sold. A lot! You should ask yourself why then how come the »expensive Stromer « is clearly has the biggest market share for speed pedelecs all over Europe. Expensive yes. But many people seem to think they’re worth the extra $$$$$

[@skepticsr_us]

@@petropoliskhan Have you seen the hills they have over there? That's why you need that power.

[@jcoats5529]

So not legal in Canada?

[@tanvirsiam6268]

No throttle option?

[@BenoSaradzic]

Yes, it can be done. I tried riding one with throttle.

[@ataksnajpera]

$10k for 48nm hub motor? ripoff You can buy decent car for that amount of money!

[@ferrysonder7051]

You can buy a Sondors LX or Rockstar or a Bikonit for 2.000-3.000 that goes even faster. 10.000 for a bike? Where are you gonna park it? Outside is a guarantee of theft.

[@skepticsr_us]

Just don't leave the sticker price on it:-)

[@duflyingdutchssswest-fries4941]

10 k ? Let me think About that ⚠️ 🤔

[@Zetler]

5k for a bike with no suspension?

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Hi Kevin! This ebike is actually $10.5k and you're correct, no suspension comes stock, but you can add the inverted WREN suspension fork and a Kinekt seatpost suspension for extra if you wish ;)

[@-C.T.-]

All this for only TEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS! Good Grief.

[@michaelk.920]

Add another 4k for an S-Works Roadbike. Ridiculous.

[@khrisstake2210]

What. 5k?

[@ctcboater]

72 pounds and hub drive? Even considering it's German, the ABS isn't worth $5K.

[@migks37]

It’s not German, it’s Switzerland. Trust me, this brand is crazy good, this motor 850w forget the noisy Bosh, you need to ride it, it’s a power monster. I live in Switzerland, this guys a really perfectionist.

[@ctcboater]

@@migks37 So... It's not legal (even Class 3) for the road in Europe or the USA?

[@petropoliskhan]

@@ctcboater it is legal in Europe. You have to get a special license plate as it is considered the same as a 50cc scooter

[@petropoliskhan]

You say that based on what knowledge? Stromer has the largest market share for speed pedelecs in Belgium and the Netherlands despite their hefty price. There are state incentives to forgo your gas guzzler in favor of these bikes which makes them more affordable and when you factor in no gas, no parking, low maintenance cost and very low insurance they become a bargain compared to car ownership. You also keep up or beat car traffic in cities. You should try it.

[@skepticsr_us]

@@petropoliskhan Do you also have to get insurance? How much for everything?

[@gctw2341]

wow! 🙂

[@danmurphy1994]

God europe and canada are such horrible places to live mobility wise.. so bogus they charge so much for fuel everythings expensive and the e bikes have such horrible restrictions.. everythings taxed everythings throttled back. Like get off peoples back let them be free.

[@ltd9792]

Is this some kind of joke? It costs about the same as a 600cc superbike w tons of race motorcycle techs, which is incomparable to this bike in terms of complexity and number of electrical components.

[@FlowJunkie65]

It's too bad that our gov't isn't more forward-looking and better incentivizing the purchase AND use of more e-bikes. I believe the original proposed legislation was more generous, the current one? Ehhhh. Here it is for the U.S. if "Build Back Better" passed, which it didn't. Look at the last sentence. The Stromer and many other high quality e-bikes wouldn't even qualify for the tax credit. "Individuals who make $75,000 or less qualify for the maximum credit of up to $900. Joint filers who make up to $150,000 can qualify for two bikes and up to a $900 tax credit on each. It phases out for taxpayers above those income levels. E-bikes with a sticker price of more than $4,000 don’t qualify for the credit."

[@cristian4488]

Stupidly expensive . It's still a bicycle at the end of the day.

[@blinkpacer]

Hey Newsflash… in Nov 2022, Stromer remotely downloaded an update to software that curtails all bikes associated to a Canadian address to a maximum speed of only 32 km/hr :-(

[@guestinthisword.87yearsago35]

I own Stromer st1xl. Nice bike but sure will cost you a lot when something goes wrong with it Cost 💲 me $4,888 last yr I’ve spend over $5,000 thou I still have warranty on it once ur warranty is done will cost 💲 you even more. So DO NOT BUY Stromer unless you can afford Only flat tire costs $62 😖

[@RagingDork]

over 10k no suspension no belt drive 🤢

[@ElectricBikeReview]

I'm not sure how much the optional WREN suspension fork is, but it works really well. No belt drive options that I saw, but they have another model with that, as well as a Pinion gearing configuration.

[@swellowff2446]

#st5

[@valman76]

I like it BUT for this price you can get a brand new motorcycle which has much more technology, materials and engineering attached. How people don't realize this? Nice product BUT it's well overpriced. Until you don't realize it, the price will be unrealistic.

[@russrockino-rr0864]

You can buy a nice not very old used motorcycle for that price. This is a bicycle for rich people.

[@duflyingdutchssswest-fries4941]

Or you can bay a used second hand car and a bike ⚠️ 🤔

[@petropoliskhan]

Maybe it’s not a motorcycle I want to buy. Maybe it’s a really nice, fast ebike. You do realize they’re not the same thing.

[@petropoliskhan]

@@duflyingdutchssswest-fries4941 or you could buy 5 bikes. Or 2 or 3 used cars!!

[@petropoliskhan]

Yes it’s expensive but you have to understand that many Stromer riders buy them to replace a car for commuting. Have you heard how expensive it is to buy a gallon of gas or to park in certain cities ? Factor in depreciation insurance too. In addition to that many countries in Europe and certain companies offer financial incentives give up your gas guzzler and commute by ebike.

[@duflyingdutchssswest-fries4941]

@@petropoliskhan yeah ,.. its BIZAR

[@buraktaskiran]

Türkçe alt yazı please :-)

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Merhaba! O dili bilmiyorum ama belki başka biri onları ekleyebilir veya çevirebilir? Üzgünüm.

[@diyelectricbiker9361]

lmao if people are happy with it, let them be happy.

[@CMikeMertz]

Maybe if it was a mid drive but this is a ridiculous price for a Hub Motor. Total rip off

[@heddy5851]

Gearless hub (like what Stromer uses) lasts longer than any other motor type, and is quieter than any other motor type, and is the only motor type to offer braking which saves you from having to wear out your brake pads and the motor braking even charges the battery a small amount. In other words, gearless hub is the perfect motor for commuters who nearly always ride in flat city streets. People who live in a hilly area or just want a faster bike should definitely look at bikes with other motor types. Mid-drive motor for best performance, or geared hub motor for a good compromise between the benefits of a mid-drive motor and the benefits of a gearless hub motor.

[@tdgdbs1]

Utterly stupidity for something that moves at 28mph at best. Airbags next?

[@ElectricBikeReview]

Have you seen the helmet that deploys airbags if it senses you're about to hit your head? There's some interesting tech out there kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIiWapKmjbxmfZY

[@petropoliskhan]

“Utterly stupidity “ maybe check your english before calling people stupid 😉

[@tdgdbs1]

@@petropoliskhan Stupid is an adjective, stupidity is a noun; so grammatically correct. Please educate yourself. Making bikes out of reach for most people and making them so complicated is a stupid move. Have a close look at the Dutch bikes and the Mamachari. If I direct my comment at a particular person; then "utter stupidity", or "utterly stupid" are the right choices. In this context; the current trend that manufacturers embrace is my reference.

[@petropoliskhan]

@@tdgdbs1 Hi you wrote "UTTERLY STUPIDITY" in your original comment! You are correct that most big manufacturers use mid drive systems, not all. Ex: most internal combustion engine car manufacturers use 4-6-8 cylinders some use 12 or even 16, in front central or rear configuration same with ebike manufacturers. The Stromers are complicated bikes with superb engineering , high quality components. As Court (EBR reviewer) said in the video , the ST5 which I happen to own and have ridden almost everyday for the last two years is powerful , fast, quiet, reliable, fun and yes very expensive. So are Ducatis, Porsches, Rolexes , Iphones,etc... The complexity of their engineering is perhaps also why they're more fun, beautiful ,rare, expensive. The thing is no one's forcing you to appreciate or buy them. Also . You do understand that accidents do happen. What's wrong with adding tech that can prevent serious injury? ABS is a great idea for bicycles that travel at higher speeds. If you think about elementary physics you'll understand that when you brake hard the riders weight is transfered to the front wheel. The back wheel lifts up sending the rider over the handlebars onto the pavement. Bad news. This tech mitigates that. I'm pretty sure many other premium brands will adopt it in the coming years.

[@danielbohland5271]

ABS braking for a bicycle give me a break 😂🤣😂🤣

[@niallc3331]

I think you'd see the benefit after riding a high speed ebike of this weight and trying to stop abruptly

[@billyrock8305]

Ridiculous 🤮

[@EaselCat]

10 k lol

[@DespaceMan]

Over priced garbage

[@cristian4488]

@Garrus Vakarian exactly. it's the iphone of electric bikes. I see no point in spending so much on a bicycle.