Electrician: "Customers underestimate what it takes to get a job done properly"

In this episode I install and oil filled radiator.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Explanation of the job
00:25 Customer briefing
01:20 Discussing the plan with the customer
03:00 Starting the job
05:15 Hard wiring the radiator
09:30 Testing
10:00 End of job thoughts

[@phillipgwynne6580]

That's got to be one of the most helpful customers I've seen any Electrician KZbin channels. You made that look like a fairly simple job including opening up tje box cut out a bit more for the single and fuse spur.

[@eastwayelectrical]

Thanks for watching he was a very nice customer.

[@waynehenson1094]

Hey, DeRoy. I'm a sparky from Baltimore in the US. I watch you all the time.

[@eastwayelectrical]

Hi wayne. Thanks for watching. As Clay Davis would sh********t

[@johankorten2797]

Thanks for sharing. Great video again.

[@eastwayelectrical]

Thanks for watching.

[@reecegarysmith7613]

Impressed i came here to watch electrical stuff and also got some plumbing tips

[@danf6491]

I would have used the socket on the left for it to look neater. Changed over for a blank/socket and fcu. Then you could have shortened the flex. All this is depending on of its one of the standard radiators where younget a blank plug and can swap the element over to the other side . Most usualy do . Nice video del 👍

[@garrymca8336]

If you're damaging the walls anyway you may as well cut a channel out and hide the cable in the wall? Would look so much better. I wouldn't be happy having that cable running like that if I was paying for that to be done 'properly'.

[@curtisj2165]

I would have used pvc mini trunking under the bottom fixing brackets and used the socket on the left instead. That job looks fugly

[@jaybands11]

you gotta be joking me, clearly you can see the client wont want that

[@garrymca8336]

@jaybands11 Why not? They have to repaint the wall now anyway. Except now they have to live with an unsightly cable running down the wall too 🙉

[@gbwildlifeuk8269]

​@@garrymca8336 because they dont want to pay for a plasterer if they chop the wall out. The client clearly says he wants to "keep it as it is". Typical i want it for nothing then ill complain.

[@mjbskydigital]

No way I'd be happy with that cable showing.

[@quagsir-behattedbloboftheu5051]

The number of times I've been to a job and they "just want a socket put in" and it's of course in the far corner of a room with a concrete floor where there's no way of accessing any other part of the house except going through the ceiling.

[@jamesmoon5632]

Thats and there is no water or gas bond or RCD

[@livelifelaughing8403]

Protect the customers floor before any work then chase and put fused spur next to the radiator job done

[@oninbridders]

You remind me of my Dad doing a job. White cleats on a Grey cable, "it will do" he would say.

[@stevenrobinson5864]

I would have definitely kept that double socket and had a spur to the left, closer to the radiator. That way the majority of the wiring would be buried and less required between the radiator and the spur. Maybe the customer didn't fancy having to do the make good for more chopping out? which is understandable I suppose.

[@richardhince9764]

Yep, I had a client a couple of years ago here in France, "it's a ten minute job, shouldn't take too long". He needed lights in bedrooms (plus other stuff) - no wiring existing, no switches, nothing. Took two days!!

[@eastwayelectrical]

Hi Richard. Thanks for watching 😂

[@100lrb]

Very true Dellroy customer’s often say it’s just a little job without understanding what’s really involved. That consumer unit tails go through separate grommets in the CU . I probably would have highlighted that to cover yourself in comments on the minor works cert . Good job though , love the videos keep up the good work.

[@gdexterc]

Well noticed, I doubt Del did

[@100lrb]

Probably eddy current overheating risk unlikely in a domestic 60A max demand situation and I think only a C3 on an EICR but probably best to highlight it . Maybe I’m being a bit over cautious 🤔

[@gdexterc]

The rules are the rules, I'd agree it's a C3 though@@100lrb

[@gdexterc]

That is our cross to bear, the eddy current "issue" was never a thing for "Domestic Sparks", hence lots of people sticking tails through separate holes in metal DBs. Is it dangerous? No, does it comply? No. Could it be easily rectified in this instance? Yes @PunjabrangDotCom

[@mainlineelectronics5266]

Wonder if Del saw the non-compliant tails on the consumer unit.

[@BULLEAD]

Good spot

[@Akz-xc1gu]

Eddy currents 🤔

[@rayc1503]

​@@Akz-xc1gu In a domestic situation, I very much doubt it. However it is a screwfix special & it kinda looks butchered 😂😂😂

[@eastwayelectrical]

No I didn't see that phase and neutral entering the consumer unit through separate holes Not good as far as I know.

[@CalumMontgomery-xb3lo]

And the fact the board is actually outside and not ip rated 😂

[@utterlyexiged]

You're right, 90% of customers haven't got a clue what's involved in pretty much anything any trade does.

[@CEO786]

I’m a customer and I’m even more clued on than the tradesmen. Every one that I use who are supposed contractors I have to direct them and tell them what to do and how to do it. Sadly the trades aren’t what they used to be, the workmanship and skills have significantly reduced.

[@neilhatton6018]

@@CEO786Are you one of those nightmare customers? 😂

[@lewis94uk]

​@@CEO786so why don't you just do it yourself then 😅

[@jamiejackson5169]

@@neilhatton6018yeah he definitely is ! 😂

[@ewogudaniel9382]

Just enjoing his vedeos from Uganda.

[@VW_Fan]

One good thing about the Australian system is all sockets are switches are the same size. You could have swapped that out without removing any of the wall.

[@mattb4266]

Tbf the customer could say I want the cable in the wall not clipped , it was the distance to the socket on the right that highlighted it, if it was on the left socket coulda run it in mini trunking then on the verticle gone in behind but yeah in the wall woulda been better over all

[@carvanplace]

Del. Great video again but that metal clad Consumer Unit. It had the tails going inside on separate entries. Eddy currents ????

[@rohanhibbert1095]

Hey, DeRoy. I recently moved to the Uk and have been watching your videos since, really enjoy the content. I would really need some advice on how to get into the trade here.

[@CbrigBear87]

Just start fitting kitchens thats how they all do it now

[@daedaluxe]

The hesitation when going to pull the plug out at the end, haha, some electrical ptsd kicking in there

[@curtisj2165]

Hey Delroy, did you not notice that the line and neutral meter tails are entering the metallic consumer unit through two different holes? That's a big no no

[@AaronMunden-np9pw]

Delroy the destroyer get investing in some dust sheets

[@dalehughes5470]

I used to work for a letting agency who always threw this exact problem at me. I've often wondered why nobody makes a single socket with a FCU. Like a cooker switch with a socket but fused.

[@Bazza-tn5ck]

You can! Just use “click mode” mini grid modules and make in up. 👌👍

[@dalehughes5470]

@@Bazza-tn5ck I had a google just after writing it. It's good to know. I could never find anything similar back in the day

[@Bazza-tn5ck]

@@dalehughes5470 As you say mate back in the day nothing available. I always thought it would’ve been very useful for external socket spurs etc.

[@declang565]

Change back box for double single size by side with spur and single socket

[@jamespetre]

Is it me or is the consumer unit, meter and main fuse all outside, sheltered in the front porch?

[@carlf6507]

Just put a 1+1 back box in and have 1 as a socket and 1 as a spur with flex outlet.

[@reynoldslot]

No dust sheets needed ?

[@Sparkyjedi]

Dust sheet cheaper than new flooring 😁 sparks get a lot of stick about mess

[@darrenwardell3079]

I swear some of my customers think electricity is in the walls and we can just put a socket anywhere to tap into it🙄

[@paulstimpson8977]

Elements on these usually can be reversed so it would have looked a whole lot better being fed from the other side

[@lucapuzzoli8363]

I am not a spark, but i know the regs require a spur in this case. But if the radiator comes with a plug with a 13A fuse in, it isn't the same thing?

[@gdexterc]

Could have just plugged it in

[@JohnDuffell]

could do but plugs are more likely to have issues with the fuse or contacts overheating, with an FCU everything is solidly connected together and therefore more reliable. the recommendation is any fixed appliance over 2kw should be hard wired rather than plugged.

[@lucapuzzoli8363]

@peter806wilson thank you

[@reecegarysmith7613]

If the manufacturers instructions state it must go on a switched spur cant argue with the mi's

[@billhewlett2723]

Why not just put a spur next to it then there’s painting surely what was the thinking behind it ?

[@jordanbeech12]

Asking the customer to help you 😂 the mark of a professional 😂

[@gdexterc]

Making something simple look hard

[@mikethemask1525]

Ffs eddy currents about, the DB first thing and theres and issue. Why you'd chop that box in without a dust sheet down i don't know 😂

[@MyAussieHouse]

I use an rcd tester to test the circuit and trip the circuit l want to work on. Much faster and safer

[@Hixxy.]

Definately would have put a single box in next to it. Just saying...

[@wesley3312]

What customer wants, customer gets!

[@gdexterc]

no, customer was asking for advice @@wesley3312

[@anelectrician]

You could have used a plug because the maximum rated fuse would still 13 amperes.

[@stuartwilson5536]

Not meant to put an appliance on a plug that draws more than 8 amps for long periods of time. Plug top is for short usage up to 8 amps with a head room of 13 amps.

[@Zak-ku7sq]

You can't if it draws 13 amps for a long time it's better to connect to fcu

[@haydnbetchley7460]

But you can buy a 3kW fan heater ready to go with a plug fitted?

[@richardfrench8879]

Why not just replace the socket on the LHS with a spur, much simpler job imo.

[@lfc3176]

Couldn't you just surface mount a fuse spur next to the double? No mess that way.

[@contactjd]

Yes but ugly box sticking out then instead of flush

[@HeathenGeek]

🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@AJ-yt5rw]

Not happy with that cable clipped to the wall

[@neilhatton6018]

No job is “quick” if you want it doing properly.

[@FrankieBoy-wn6qt]

50 years the the trade….at least use a dust sheet man …..

[@MEGAONE302]

You charge too much!

[@Paul_Holmes]

THat customer was weird. Why wouldn't he want the wire to run under the radiator to the closest socket. And given there needed to be some patch work afterwards, why don chase out a socket next to the radiator? Strange.