Is This the Ultimate Conduit Body for Electricians?!?

[@Ephesians-ts8ze]

I’ve never heard that explanation for distinguishing a LL vs an LR. The way I learned it was, if you hold it like a pistol, the cover is on the left side on an “LL” and on the right for an “LR”. Both are good ways to remember but yours seems a little bit simpler😂

[@johnsandlinjr]

The pistol method was exactly how it was explained to me too

[@BrodyMorgan0805]

Same here

[@Chefsnag]

I also learned the pistol method which I think is every bit as simple to remember and use. Either way good info!

[@briana.1165]

Same

[@JustinSchulz0806]

Same. I work for an electrical distributor and that's how they descirbed it to me as well. Hah. While watching I was picturing holding it like a gun, or pew pew, since it's safe for youtube....

[@punkboyblue]

This can't replace an LB because of the hard 90 degree thing like you already said in this video trying to make a nice outside 90 without having to pull away from the wall.

[@frednbauer]

I don't see how it can replace an LB for a flush wall penetration.

[@Ephesians-ts8ze]

Good point. That’s one situation this fitting wouldn’t be useful

[@keithhults8986]

I agree. Because of the internal sweep, I don't picture it fitting nearly as neatly as an LB on residential siding of any kind. If I did mostly commercial and industrial conduit, I would make permanent inventory of this universal L on my truck.

[@gradyrm237]

I'm with you. I was waiting to see it installed. Still waiting.

[@TheGamerzAid]

Don’t forget the TB! It’s just like a T but the third exit point is out of the back of the conduit body. Very useful if you’re going through a wall and the customer requires a low point drain/ drip leg at every vertical drop!

[@Brandon-ug1vi]

The way I was taught is to hold the conduit body like a gun. If the cover is to the left it’s an LL, if it’s to the right it’s an LR

[@jayztoob]

I can't see how this will replace an LB in most cases, or a pull-ell on exterior corners, but will be usefull in lots of places.

[@Happy311full]

Thank you for labeling a pull-ell, I didn't know that's why they were called.

[@marcrj8111]

Now this is an "innovation" in electrical products I can relate to. It builds on time tested infrastructure rather than the "game changers" that, years later have less than desirable impacts.

[@randallthomas5207]

If your running PVC, Arlington makes a body with plates, which can be attached to form up any standard body configuration. Arlington Conduit Outlet Body, Lb, T, Ll, Lr, Or C, 931NM

[@thelastword7203]

I got to check one of these out on an apprentice night expo at my electrical school, IECRM. This shit seemed pretty good for smooth pulls.

[@davideid4002]

Wonder how accessible The covers would be if they were in tight rack with multiple conduits?

[@parkourguyyy]

this thing is honestly kinda cool with how it works for all 4 directions, but the smooth sweep really doesnt fill the role of an LB where its an immediate change of direction. this is great if youre exceeding your 360 degrees of bends and putting a box isnt feasible, but this cant really be used in many areas youd normally use an LB

[@MrSvobodniy]

And how do you use it on corners if this item is U-shape?

[@alt-p3749]

Very interesting… wonder what the cost looks like compared to the traditional LB/LL/LR

[@zacharysulecki4499]

About 100-200 dollars difference per fitting depending on size. Not worth the price.

[@alt-p3749]

@@zacharysulecki4499 hard pass.

[@dallasarnold8615]

@@zacharysulecki4499 Zachary, surely you must have meant $ 1.oo or $ 2.oo, not 100 to 200 per fitting. That ABSOLUTELY would not be worth the price.

[@andrewalexander9492]

@@dallasarnold8615 I have no idea what Zacchary is referring to, but just doing a little browsing on Amazon to get a like-to-like comparison, aluminum, 3/4" conduit bodies seem to run about $6-$10 each. A 3/4" aluminum LU body is $18 so around twice as expensive. I can see the advantage of having some of these on hand for when you run out of the correct body juuust as you were about to finish up a job. Not sure I'm sold on the idea of only using these as standard operating procedure, instead of estimating how many of the correct bodies you need for a job, and getting enough of each.

[@draaks1]

Quick google search looks like 3 to 4 times the cost, at best.

[@CoreyCantwell-jv4be]

These are great for pulling cat5/6 as well. The smooth radius helps prevent cable damage and kinks.

[@markdickey7807]

Love this!! Any word on if they will bring out same in schedule 40 or 80?

[@mkidd8806]

Am thinking that 90% that viewed and committed this video truly missed the point were this product is a game changer in many ways. After this product is on the market a couple of years the price will come down! Remember with the info stamped on inside this can be a device were you can make a legal splice!

[@throttlebottle5906]

looks like a good thing for ethernet and fiber cabling, nice radius bends.

[@GilmerJohn]

If this is used for splices, don't the Cu In restrictions apply?

[@caring-assoul_]

Yeah, that sounds great at all but I’m pretty sure that one product is ridiculously priced in comparison with an LB, LL, LR, etc. “If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it”.

[@draaks1]

Quick google search looks like 3 to 4 times the cost, at best.

[@larrymcgoldrick3471]

If you could put the clamp style cover on the screw type body, retrofit as it were, you would have a better product. Sell the clamping cover separately for if the body screw holes get stripped out.

[@draaks1]

Just a quick search up and these are about 3 to 4 times the price of a standard body at best. Also they only would fit in locations where a bend would fit anyway... Also while you could use to satisfy code for exceeding 360 degrees a pull box or standard LB would be better/cheaper unless the pull was easy enough to pull through the LU without a loop but that is kind of a cheesy way to do it. But all in I really don't see this as a replacement for anything and something that would just sit on the shelf/truck to use when I don't have the right part for the job just to get me through. Honestly kinda rubs me the wrong way that you are throwing this sales pitch at us for a product I'm willing to bet you would never actually prefer to use in the field. Plus the argument was instead of trying to source a "special" LR body you should source these special bodies instead? I bet these will be harder to get ahold of than any LR or LL. And when you say there's no reason to have other products then literally use B roll 00:45 of an installation where this product wouldn't work. Then talks about situations 1:05 where a sweeping bend in conduit wouldn't work so the solution is a sweeping LU body that also wouldn't work??? Just do better man.

[@realtimjimmy]

For real. This is simply shilling a garbage product.

[@--JohnDoe]

Your raceway supports the enclosure. Support WITHIN 3' and all raceways must be the same size as the conduit body. -NEC- 314.23 (E) (E) Raceway-Supported Enclosure, Without Devices, Luminaires, or Lampholders. An enclosure that does not contain a device(s), other than splicing devices, or supports a luminaire(s), a lampholder, or other equipment and is supported by entering raceways shall not exceed 1650 cm3 (100 in.3) in size. It shall have threaded entries or identified hubs. It shall be supported by two or more conduits threaded wrenchtight into the enclosure or hubs. Each conduit shall be secured within 900 mm (3 ft) of the enclosure, or within 450 mm (18 in.) of the enclosure if all conduit entries are on the same side. Exception: The following wiring methods shall be permitted to support a conduit body of any size, including a conduit body constructed with only one conduit entry, provided that the trade size of the conduit body is not larger than the largest trade size of the conduit or tubing: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) Intermediate metal conduit, Type IMC Rigid metal conduit, Type RMC Rigid polyvinyl chloride conduit, Type PVC Reinforced thermosetting resin conduit, Type RTRC Electrical metallic tubing, Type EMT. ---- Tips, the inside corner of an lb is a common place to create a short, pull the last bit through gently. & don't expect to actually use a c condulet as a pull point for large conductors, unless you get a special c mogul long one. A condulet is a good point for weep holes for rooftop work, raintight connectors & cheapo gaskets don't work 100%

[@Tubiggiesmalls]

Pretty slick

[@spencerwyche2552]

They also have LRL's.

[@KG5IZE]

do stuff on permenat living rv situations

[@cgm2li]

I work for ABB - Thomas & Betts Products…. I would love to sample you some of our more engineered products for your use in these types of product reviews. Let me know if your interested in discussing further.

[@christopherlawler3033]

Conduit bodies are generally not used on service entrances in Chicago where crackheads will scavenge or scrap your copper wiring from the service entrance - typically sweeping 90-degree bends will transition through a masonry wall where the penetrations have been notched out to accommodate the sweeping radius of the conduit bend, then the notched-out opening around the installed raceways are then sealed off with some sort of calking or mortar-mix or in some cases, a fireproof or fire-blocking compound - and this way there is no real access point from the outside or exterior at ground-level, so copper scavenging crackheads or methamphetamine addicts won't be able to easily remove or extract the encapsulated copper conductors unless they have the ability to access the interior of the building and have elevated access to the top of the service riser(s) and weather-head(s). Such thefts of copper, especially on larger electrical installations can get really expensive to deal with, as all of that stolen copper material would need to be replaced along with the cost of labor to reinstall them. Conduit bodies or L-B's installed where the service riser or lateral enters the structure may make it easier for the installation of the equipment and associated service entrance conductors - but also makes it just as easy for the extraction or removal of said service entrance conductors by unauthorized persons. I have also seen conduit bodies & extraneously added fittings installed on simple conduit runs where it really does not make any real sense - as a sweeping bend or offset would just as easily suffice and also gives a tell to the level of experience or skill the installer had when assembling the installation - such as someone who really does not know how to bend conduit or really know how to measure or account for the take-up of the bend. The exception would be for the obvious where the bending radius would take an obviously larger amount of space then what is permitted - or a better example - using a listed Meyers-type threaded conduit hub on a NEMA 3-R enclosure to accommodate a water-tight conduit entry point on any side other than the bottom of the enclosure as a clearly wise alternative to concocting a ridiculous assembly of conduit bodies & fittings in order to land the entrance on the bottom of such an enclosure, where an entry on the top of such an enclosure like a junction box, metering enclosure, safety switch, etc. would make much more sense and also be more aesthetically pleasing, neat & orderly in appearance if such a point of entry would be simply made as short and with as few changes in direction as permissible or possible. This way it would obviously show or display the demonstrated skill level of the electrical installer by revealing a proficient and expertly planned and executed installation in contrast to a bunch of erroneous electrical fittings that lend the clumsy and unnecessary appearance in addition to the additional costs associated with the acquisition of the additional materials in hardware fittings that would otherwise be unnecessary for the install. Obviously, as noted in this video - there are certain applications where such a fitting would be prudent to include in an excessively long span or run of conduit to break up the span or run with a designated pull-point (keeping in mind that such pull-points must remain exposed & accessible like any other pull-box or junction-box and cannot be later covered up by building materials or buried or concealed in such a way that it is no-longer accessible.) I all too often encounter electrical boxes or pull-points that have been covered up or buried behind plaster, cement/concrete or drywall/plasterboard and it then becomes more labor-intensive & time consuming to find such enclosures or conduit-bodies to access a circuit-run for maintenance/repair or alterations/modifications to the installation.

[@lakorai2]

Thats cool but not if it is 2x-3x the cost

[@JohnThomas-lq5qp]

Left handle smoke shifter for sure.

[@realtimjimmy]

That is utterly pointless. The inner radius of the fitting is going to prevent installion for a 90 degree corner or wall transition. If you need a conduit body installed mid-pull to prevent exceeding 360 degrees in the conduit run, you're not going to be pulling "through" it regardless. I can't think of a single application in which a 90 degree elbow wouldn't solve the problem for 1/10 of the cost. It's T&B, too, so the cost is going to be three or four times more expensive than an ordinary cast conduit body.

[@Thee-AmateurAn94]

LU conduit body only $60 per fitting 💪🏽

[@robertkat]

If you are an electrician, you know what it is, if you are not, you don't need to know.

[@callmepopyallfather2473]

Those are pretty neat... Now put it through a wall... Like you would any normal LB.

[@andrewalexander9492]

If you're pulling through those, it seems like you may at times be in violation of the intent of the 360 degree rule, if not the letter.

[@jaromrobinson2339]

It's a J-box. 360 degree rule is between pull points.

[@andrewalexander9492]

@@jaromrobinson2339 Ummm, right, but like I said, he's saying that you can pull through it, and if you were pulling through the fitting and you had 270 degrees of bends on one side of it, and 270 degrees on bends on the other side of it, you'd be pulling through 540 degrees of bend, plus the 90 degrees of the fitting, and the *intent* of the code is that you don't do that, regardless of whatever word games you want to play with what the device is called. Also, the radius of the curve inside the LU, is a lot tighter than a 90 degree conduit bend, so it would be worse than puling through a run of conduit with 630 degrees of bends.

[@wim0104]

again, this counts as a pull box, it keeps the two 270degrees divided.

[@andrewalexander9492]

@@wim0104 Are you playing intentionally obtuse, or are you really just stupid? Again, I'm not disputing that you could play word games and claim that the conduit installation complies with the *letter* of the law, but if you have 270 degrees on each side of the fitting, and you pull the entire run in one pull as Dustin suggested, you're pulling a run of well over 360 degrees worth of bends, which is what the code is intended to prevent. That code is not about the final product, that code exists to limit the *process* of how you pull wire, so that it doesn't get damaged in the *process* of pulling the wire. You can install all the pull points you want, but if you don't use them as pull points when you're pulling the wire, you're circumventing the intent of the code. It's a pretty simple concept, why do you seem to have such difficulty understanding it?

[@Sparkeycarp]

@@andrewalexander9492 Here is a work around the 360 rule I have done or even when there is just a lot of friction. Have your helper push in rhythm to your pull and don't over pull making the wire tight. Of course your not violating the 360 rule by installing too many bends. But this is a possible way to use the pull through feature in the "U" condulet.

[@CrapE_DM]

Not a great replacement for LBs if it's meant to be close to a wall...

[@sethboonie7816]

Still can't go up a flat wall and into a building or any straight 90s

[@timothysayer3405]

About time.

[@OldToby53]

Its to store your stash in

[@openarms1841]

Ayo, bro old as hell!

[@austinstilling4045]

That’s the price difference between one of these and an lb ll lr ect

[@draaks1]

Quick google search looks like 3 to 4 times the cost, at best.

[@jameskoehler4939]

I like the idea, and will probably get a few of the to throw on the truck. But if I'm being honest, these look kind of janky. Looks like something you'd see in mexico or south america.

[@trickytrav88]

I usually tighten it till the flat head screw cant be taken off ever again 😅 jk jk

[@rothgang]

That body cannot be used in the first clip of an LB.

[@Antonioizaguirre1995]

Looks like a b.u.b to me nothing new