Fiat Grande Panda FIRST DRIVE - Is Fiat’s £21k electric supermini an EV gamechanger? | Electrifying

[@singleta]

Renault and Fiat have realised that the best way they can compete with the Chinese is on styling. And I think it's working

[@dotTomdotcom]

It seems that they're both going back to their roots.

[@ReddoFreddo]

It's also worrying, I hope they get their sh*t together in terms of technology.

[@gentle285]

Wrong. It's price. Everything always comes down to price.

[@timpadgett9155]

I like Manos' camerawork, but he's wrong about the Panda. It's absolutely spot on. If you're going to pay homage to an old model, without going full Renault 5 about it, then this is how you do it. Bravo, Fiat!

[@jameskrell4392]

Its dreadful, I have been buying Fiat since 1988 and I won’t be buying this one.

[@Alessandro---]

I had the original Panda, it was a brilliant little car: very essential, great flexibility, we did sleep in it (2 adults) and my dog loved it. I hated with a passion how they had remodelled it, making it a "normal" car. This is brilliant, it's a jewel of design, it's making older people admire how a wink to the past is translated into a modern desirable supermini.

[@christopher4162]

This new one Lacks the interior flexibility of the old one, the Hyundai mister translates it into the current times more perfectly

[@colinfoster7149]

I love it too, top marks for making a great small car again. I remember sitting in the back of an original Panda, and I’m sure I remember a large bump under the very thinly padded rear bench!

[@Alessandro---]

@@colinfoster7149 well, the rear bench was a hammock that could be set to carry a baby or a puppy. But when used as a seat, you would « know » if you had put anything hard in the boot. I moved to Ireland with it (solo) and brought with me a « personal » washing machine, my stereo (amp, cd, tuner, tape separates + speakers), and all my belongings. The customs at Dover didn’t like it one bit!

[@stix2you]

I like the steelies too! What a pain the alloys are in real life, and so much less durable, AND more expensive. Nicely painted steelies are very cool.

[@Al_Lergic]

we need 20" steelies

[@jamesengland7461]

How hard do you drive? I've never damaged an alloy wheel.

[@marklola12]

Clearly you are someone who can not drive or park without scraping the alloys lol

[@avtomad722]

Definitely the steelies

[@UKMike2009]

100% for steel wheels!

[@paulgreen8996]

4 1/2 meters cable what we need when some bastard has iced the charger!

[@Brian-om2hh]

I have a 5 metre cable, and it's been worth every penny....

[@MigV40]

Haha iced. Love it!😂

[@sandyfordd1843]

I like to de-ice at my local petrol station. I'm quite happy to park my EV wherever I want 😂, especially at the closest pumps.

[@gentle285]

Until they cut your cable.

[@ade1963]

Hope they make a 4x4 version. I'm too tight to buy a new car but I would love a 4x4 version when it's a few years old

[@CassHoskins]

This and the new Renault 5 are the 1st electric cars that I’ve actually wanted to buy…

[@mrbbt2220]

I'm sorry to hear that.....😉

[@drunkenhobo8020]

@@mrbbt2220 Well up until now there's only really been the choice between big electric SUVs, or small hatchbacks that are far too expensive. It's nice to have ones that are actually somewhat affordable.

[@tureq85]

wait til you see the renault 5 finance offers… i went with top spec megane for the same price

[@dotTomdotcom]

Agreed. For a city runabout, it's currently between the Renault 5 and this new Panda.

[@mrbbt2220]

If it was petrol, then yes. EV, hello no👌

[@ikke12345]

I like cars that require the key to be inserted to start. You can not trick the car to think that the key is nearby while it is not

[@jaroslav-jaroslavsson]

pick the lock for physical key is most probably very easy. Sometimes it needs only screwdriver and big force or pull the wires and connect right one. The digital security is today stronger than physical key if implemented right way

[@discoverkenya]

@@jaroslav-jaroslavsson Have you ever owned a car before? Fob cars HAVE an actual key in the fob so the car door still has keyhole. Non fob cars can't be relay started. What you described takes time, yes? Well cars are being stolen by the handful in ONE go and in seconds with relay sensors 😂😂

[@chrishall734]

Don’t watch the channel often but what a brilliant presenter. Interesting, enthusiastic, funny…. Loved it

[@baffes4348]

Things I didn´t put on my 2025 bingo card: Liking a Panda and Nicola singing & dancing Shaggy... 😂

[@CarlosFandango1975]

Great learner car in 5 years time. I hope they do a 4x4 version

[@dotTomdotcom]

An e-Sisley

[@PressPasser]

Car and journalist both, full of personality! Love it.

[@Jaw0lf]

The steel wheels definately give it the retro look. Loved your bubbly review.....without the bubbly!

[@NigelRudyard]

I had a Mk2 Panda for nearly 10 years. Only meant to keep it a few weeks, and ran it everywhere. The new EV version looks a worthy successor. Much bigger beast though (the mk2 was 3.5m long, and God did that help parking in spaces other cars couldn't get into). Incidentally, the original mk2 was officially the slowest car for sale in its time, 54 bhp LOL

[@AndrewMarritt]

I parked next to an obviously restored original panda 4x4 yesterday. It was on steelies and looked fantastic

[@UrbanNomad883]

Nicola's infectious enthusiasm and in-depth reviews with added humour, shames some of our male reviewers (looking at you, Mat Watson).

[@Brian-om2hh]

This is exactly the sort of EV the market now needs. It's taken a while to get near the £20k barrier, but we're now seeing a few EV's at that price point. Plus it isn't perhaps the list price that matters so much, as the potential to lease cars like this for £150 per Month or less....and once the lease is up at 3 years old, it'll be available at sensible prices, which will help EV adoption no end.

[@jaychurch1893]

It's great to see Fiat back at their small car best 🇮🇹

[@teklife]

u consider that small? look at that last shot where she's standing in front of it, and that hood comes up to her like the same as a "crossover" SUV height 😞 small EVs would get us much farther tho, and more practical for city driving.

[@vernhill-wv7pp]

This car compared to the original is like a Mini next to a Range Rover!

[@jaychurch1893]

I've got the original 500L. Park the original Panda next to it and the Original Panda looks like a Range Rover. It's relative....

[@superleggenda]

The beep is unfortunately a requirement for all cars sold in Europe after maybe October 2024.

[@marklola12]

Good so uk version won't have it

[@mungojack]

​@marklola12 yes it will. They won't change the systems for one little island

[@siemdecleyn3198]

I'd love that actually. Way to often I'm doubting whether the speed has changed

[@normanlazarus1836]

@@marklola12The UK is part of Europe, just not in the EU.

[@zog97xy]

@@marklola12 All cars have it my new hyundai i10 has it and you CAN'T turn it off.

[@patrickjr11]

Stellantis. Too many brands with very average technology. Love the style but it's all rather meh underneath. They need to slim down the brands, improve the tech and stop pretending that high costs for average is acceptable. It's 2025 and the competition has raced past them now.

[@AnthonyJones-vk6xq]

Stelllantis is the new benchmark for shit products !

[@oliverstemp9132]

It’s £24k! How cheap do you want it! 😂 you can get a hybrid one for £18k!

[@LittleBoobsLover]

​@@oliverstemp9132 but they could put heat pump, 22kw AC charger, and at least 64kwh battery (absolute minimum in colder europe). Instead they put only 7 kw front charger... 11kw for shopping/cinema is super slow, but 7? Infointaiment looks super basic an has no google automotive system. It is just better looking dacia spring.

[@marcusjenkins]

Our illustrious leaders in Brussels have slapped huge import duties on decent Chinese cars so that dinosaur European companies can continue palming us off with this kind of rubbish at outrageous prices. I've had two Stellantis cars from new. I will, never, ever, buy a third. Awful, awful quality and these days they're not even cheap any more.

[@thedreamfactory6964]

100% correct!

[@ISuperTed]

Hmmm. Nice design, but seem to be a number of strange things about the Panda - odd regen, strange bings and bongs etc. I like the look of it, but if a decent spec one is touching Renault 5 territory, then it’s no contest I’m afraid.

[@sandervdbrink84]

The shape of the head rest is one as well!

[@stix2you]

haha! at the end there it doesn't look like you need any wine!! Fantastic review, thanks! You're the best reviewer around right now! Love it!

[@drfisheye]

I'd still prefer the 500e, even though it's less practical. The 500e is a real Fiat product, not a derivative of a Citroën. The 500 also doesn't need to yell '500' or 'Fiat' on the sides; it doesn't need it, everyone sees what it is. It also has full one pedal driving, which Stellantis still hasn't figured out.

[@mw8653]

Park it next to an original Panda its twice the size it's just a bigger car with Panda written all over it.

[@joyardley1742]

I had a Porsche and my Fiat Panda 4x4 cross …guess which one I kept ?! Love my Panda…runs on air 🤣

[@nomdeplume2724]

I got both too 🤓 A great combination 💥👍

[@latheofheaven1017]

Never really liked Fiat, or Pandas in particular, but I am so glad that manufacturers are putting some colour into the interiors of their less expensive cars these days. Not a fan of all the black (not a Goth), so yes. Colour. Fantastic!

[@jayc5325]

My first car was a Panda… loved it, freezing in the winter!

[@PaulMeier-cu3ds]

Fun review. I think you nailed it by pointing out that a cheap, slow, ordinary £21k EV car can be stylish. For instance I can not think of anything at the very lowest end of the VW range that has this much in the way of style, and as Nicola points out Ford need to watch out. Ford used to be good at this too. Stellantis are being clever in offering the same or a similar platform with so many different skins and purposes. To take a near neighbour at a different price point you have the Alfa Romeo Junior, even without the Veloce version.

[@benw4079]

VW low range are coming later this year

[@PaulMeier-cu3ds]

@@benw4079 Good to hear. I hope they are a bit bolder on style and pizzaz than recently.

[@benw4079]

@PaulMeier-cu3ds they're still very good cars. The id3 was disappointing to look at, especially inside. The id2 promises a lot. There's also a small Cupra Revel and Skoda Epiq coming. I think they could be game changers.

[@PaulMeier-cu3ds]

@ I would really like to see VW back on form so I hope they get this right.

[@tristancollins3037]

The only way you could possibly tell this apart from all the other Stellantis cars on the same platform is to emblazon it everywhere with fiat and panda decals

[@HIOP0]

So speaks stevie wonder...

[@tristancollins3037]

@HIOP0 you'd have to be if you liked this monstrosity

[@HIOP0]

@@tristancollins3037 That makes NO sense. A blind person being unable to see, would therefore not be in a position to judge like or dislike in any event.

[@tristancollins3037]

@@HIOP0 lol

[@simonhodgetts6530]

Well, the curly cable worked out well……dread to think what that’ll be like in 3-4 yrs time. It’s ok - better than many recent FIATs - but, it’s huge for a Panda - and the Renault 5 is such an accomplished car design that it really gives the FIAT a run for its money.

[@rico4229]

To be honest , for the car of its type a 0 to 60 of 11 secs is fine. Same as the Citroen e C3 .. If that translates into cheaper insurance then it's a bonus in running costs .. a superb practical car by the looks of it...

[@Felixmax507]

Exciting car with excited presenter. Obviously liked the car very much and it is the best recommendation. Life or cars shouldn't be boring even if it is Fiat 🐼

[@nigelturpin3533]

I loved my original Panda..Pasta case seats..hanging back seat...double sunroof and Denovo tyres..an Italian 2CV...that was early eighties...things have er moved on haven't they. I think I'm intrigued anyway...ta for the review.

[@philiptaylor7902]

Surprised they ever let you back Nicola.

[@HIOP0]

Explain for those who don't know the reason for your comment?

[@chrismoule7242]

@@HIOP0 I think because she was a little under the influence last time they let her in - as she explains at the start.

[@HIOP0]

@chrismoule7242 Having endured the video subsequently, seems there are many reasons for keeping her away from the camera.

[@theblackhand6485]

She is Italian. That’s way.

[@HIOP0]

@theblackhand6485 ESOL FOR YOU.

[@megapangolin1093]

Steel wheels are always best for an everyday car, easy to clean and stronger for potholes, Shame that FIAT has become a Vauxhall in so many ways. Good to see a review that doesnt go on about speed and handling all the time, as no one drives fast and swooping any more, it is impossible in the UK anyway, for more than a few minutes. Range and practicality is the way forward. Good to have the beeps, you would be surprised at how many times the limit changes in the average journey these days.

[@zog97xy]

The beeps are annoying!

[@TheJ1s]

Looks cool, if ever comes to the US they would need to put in a bigger battery and stronger horse power. Also, have a NACS port as well since America EVs are switching to that. It'll sell better than the Fiat 500e because it's larger and can fit people taller than kids.

[@spoenk7448]

If you take this car made for the European market and take everything on it that makes it good for the European market and exchange it for something made for the American market it'll sell better than a European car that is sold on the American market.

[@xx-----------xx873]

nah the average American wants a RAV4 Prime or an F150 XLT. America is 50% bigger in literally every way compared to Europe.

[@PicmipPixel]

You know the car is bad when she is cracking jokes and not talking about the car that much... -_-

[@justdna4385]

I think that second delay before it goes will really help reduce tire wear. I think instant 100% torque is the 2nd major thing that cause EVs to wear through tires at an unacceptable rate.

[@RichDunn]

Reassuring to know that the Bambox is made out of bamboo.... and not panda's. 🐼

[@flashback9966]

These cars need to do well, to fight off the Chinese. A great start, well done Fiat.

[@Bell-EndParkingUK]

I genuinely think this looks fantastic and reminds me of the Renault 4 due to how close to the original it is

[@brianfarrelly7151]

Did you ever own an early R4L ? Quite comfortable, spacious and that gear change - wow ! My first car was a 6 volt model, 850cc and 3 forward gears - no standard radio of course. Beautiful dark green and lots of Isopon.

[@felipeaugusto6587]

Such a fun video and a great presenter! Also, I love the car! There are rumors that this car will inspire a new generation of Fiat compact cars in Brazil! Hugs from Brazil :)

[@paulomoniz3811]

Just wait for the price, suddenly it won’t look so attractive.

[@simonevans8979]

Just added to my potential list for my E208 replacement... Dont need `performance` in my job...

[@Brian-om2hh]

The Hyundai Inster could be well worth a look too..

[@blackbelt2000]

that "C" button is the equivalent of the "Door Close" button in an elevator

[@eden5260]

You do know they actually work right ?

[@blackbelt2000]

@eden5260 to which are you referring?

[@eden5260]

@@blackbelt2000 lol the buttons in the Lift

[@madmandonna1]

It's better looking than the E-C3, but I'd still much rather go for the Renault 5 despite the starting price being 2k more. But it's cute and I'm glad more cars like this are getting made.

[@fazerrider8872]

It must be a generational thing, but as soon as you said Shaggy, I pictured Scooby Doo!! Was sat there wondering what the reference was!😂

[@AlexdaCunha]

I think is really good feature to warn you when speed limit changes. It would have saved me a couple of speeding tickets I got because of distraction

[@micheleoncini8369]

This car is so cute! Big smile driving it

[@dsd174]

We, or at least just me, want the Gran Panda(stic) 4x4!

[@trevdfield7520]

Does it rot as fast as the original?

[@alanwayte432]

We have had a Panda 4/4 on our fruit farm for 21 years it was rustproofing from new ...simple

[@SzaszaG1]

Too bad it's stellantis quality.

[@leslie19611]

I can't stop thinking how much trouble it's going too be to repair dents around the embossed logos on the door and back.

[@HIOP0]

Killjoy front and centre is you.

[@leslie19611]

@HIOP0 it doesn't sound like there was any joy in you either before or after you read my comment. Give yourself a day off and relax a bit

[@HIOP0]

@@leslie19611 Lambasting you, even mildly, contains no information regarding what you believe to be the case. You on the other hand, are perceived to be a creature of habit, using tired, worn out set phrases, whether they are relevant... or not.

[@musguelha14]

Have you ever been to Rome? Every car has a dent on it, they don't care.

[@HIOP0]

@musguelha14 What's your point relative to the post you're responding to?. Not all panda/vehicle drivers live in Italy.

[@Gomisan]

If/when it comes to Australia I might just have to buy one :) For the right price...

[@Mladjasmilic]

Electrical egineer here: 7kW cable is probably 3x6mm², which total of 18mm² of copper. What they could have done, is use custom cable, 2x4mm² (for 7kW single phase), 2x2.5mm² (for 3 phase 11kW) and 2.5mm² for ground. This is 15.5mm² of copper (which is thinner cable with less copper) and cable could conduct more power. Even if they used 3x4mm² (like Tesla UMC) for 7kW only, this would make the cable just slightly thicker.

[@michelebm]

Personality is what I expect from a Car. And from a Review. Well done Nicola!

[@brendanfleming6584]

This is a good review of what is fundamentally an exciting new car. Not something that happens too often.

[@sqweki2008]

Carry on and you’ll have Shaggy’s lawyers on the phone🤣

[@JH-uu7jl]

Fun car but this lady is so funny and thorough that I enjoy all of her reviews. I agree re the mirrors and while ordinarily I'd hate to have the steelies, on a cheap car like this it does make sense.

[@macoypizzuti5120]

Would love if this came to the states

[@ericschneider4593]

I agree. I love the design so much more than the Korean EVs, which just seem to try and look like science fiction movie props. This is actually fun.

[@hattyfarbuckle]

Hurrah - a real ignition key

[@wayneheyes4934]

Ford take note oh wait they won’t do a KAEV

[@Dreador.]

I think it was more a node at the Capri

[@hlad11]

The karaoke at the end! Ahhh haha brilliant! You are the best auto journalist going! Love it! ❤😂

[@TheCreativeLlama17]

You are so unapologetically weird and I’m so here for it! 😂 please never change ❤

[@andrewstorey5744]

It's an act

[@Mobile_Dom]

i think i actually prefer ths to the new renault 5. the only thing I think the renault 5 wins on is software, stelantis software is godawful across all their brands

[@richardhart6289]

I have a 1988 panda 4x4, iv had her as a farm car since i was a child,a panda ev would be perfect as a sister car for my panda (her name is dinki) only thing id want to hold out for is to see if there will be a 4x4 version, do you know if anything is coming? a small 4 wheel drive ev would be a perfect car for the durham dales!

[@ElderNames]

Can you set it up in Scots, or Sachsig, or Basque?

[@logtothebase2]

I Like the interior also. defiantly lends it some personality, nice to see European car makers starting to find their EV Mojo.

[@SweBeach2023]

The design of the cable looks just insane. I'm sure it works now, but will it work in 6 months or 6 years time? Why not a solution more similar to a hoover with a straight cable being spun around its holder?

[@vepakko]

This ”baby Ferrari” really has the looks. Love the white-blue seating!

[@simonheape5279]

That roof is where the Strada ad was filmed isn’t it? 🤔

[@cornerliston]

I imagine the conversation in the design team being ’look it can reach sooo far!’ ‘Yeah but how does it retract?’ ’Hm yes but the CEO likes it sooo …’

[@lourenco_ss]

13:24 finally someone notices it! It bugs me everytime! All with the same mirrors: Junior, 208, 2008, Avenger, C3, Frontera...The same from the PUG 308 from 2013! They go particullary bad with the design of this Panda. What a shame... As for the rest! Looks amazing! Well Done!

[@theblackhand6485]

No. Clearly overkill with all these logo Easter 🐣 ‘s. And those square ventilation, so in your face and matching. Then the square lights all around. That’s just Hyundai! On the other hand the steely wheels look indeed better than the just ugly alloys. I would go for these steel rims or have search for similar looking alloys. The old Ronal A1 Phone dial rims would look great on this car. But hey! You still have to live with the ugly vents and the non matching piano black mid console.

[@WagnerGimenes]

The best and happiest reviews on KZbin. Thanks @Electrifying for allowing your talent to be themselves.

[@jasonkemp8385]

I hear quite often on these reviews there are not enough affordable EV cars. Then the review on this mentions a few times how slow it is. Does it really matter for a little affordable car that would be great for just getting from A to B in the city or in town?

[@danharwood]

I hadn't noticed the wing mirros and now I can't unsee them!

[@dominicchesterman2107]

When do we get right hand drive uk spec? All these reviews are of cars that are some time off. I've not seen an EC3, Renault 5 electric or Frontera yet. All we have sub £25 is the Dacia Spring.

[@Brian-om2hh]

No, there is the Citroen EC-3 at £21k now.....plus the Hyundai Inster at £23k....

[@dominicchesterman2107]

@Brian-om2hh still no rhd ones in the UK?

[@normanlazarus1836]

The Fiat website says “arriving soon” but, depending on your timescales, so is Christmas.

[@th42]

Will they be making a small version? This, I assume, is the same size as the Jeep etc.

[@juliandclarke]

Cool. I do prefer my Honda e for looks and style - but this Panda is niiiiiiiice

[@redlineste4283]

The original Panda rusted away infront of your eyes.

[@carolinetv5112]

But still could not compete with the Japanese cars of that era. For just!

[@Waciglass]

My thoughts too 😜

[@th3gughy]

But they are still going.

[@alanwayte432]

My Mother’s lasted 12 years

[@helenmitchell1631]

I’m still driving mine … in Italy where rust is less of a problem but there are thousands still going …. Everyone loves them and they can go anywhere - because they are small ! Car designers take note - we want small thin cars for Italian towns - cars have become ridiculously huge

[@nyinkercom]

What a shame. A concept called "120" was soooo much better. They settled down hard.

[@neofaktion]

You didn't even explain what the long charging cable thing was? Is it V2L?

[@natehill8069]

The delay after pressing the throttle is a deal killer. Instantaneous acceleration is one of the main features of an EV. The beep when the limit changes is evil too.

[@stephsoltesz6731]

I have to say that THIS Panda is quite attractive "to me" I really like it. I also really like the R4 & R5 which I feel Fiat nailed very very well. I'm also very happy that they are sticking to "Normal & Reasonable" but not trying to "be a supercar". If these were available in Canada thiey'd absolutely be on my Short List (regardless of terribly minimal EV models avail here). Sadly we will NEVER see them as Stallantis has Zero Interest in North America for which I can't blame them one bit. The RAMS & Jeeps they put out now are serious crap with horrid reviews & ratings and mechanical nightmares to boot - Everything formerly "MOPAR" is now well tainted. They would actual;ly have to bring in FIAT, Citoen and those badges but the Yanks "will not have it for any reason" and Canada being "the good puppy" (maybe not anymore after tomorrow) forget it here... Funny thing though, Quebec being Seriously French & influenced accordingly are not as "Retentive & Butt Piuckered" towards Euro-Badges like everyone else.

[@newru]

Had a panda as a family car, took it on long distance trips and loved it. It was cheap, fun and it got you there. Will this be cheap too? Because otherwise I see nothing that would make it a „gamechanger“ 😂

[@consty715]

You dance like the drunk uncle at a wedding😂😂

[@sandyfordd1843]

Hopefully this new Panda won't rust before our very eyes like the original did 😂

[@dogsbodyish8403]

Note that you shouldn't expect to get regenerative braking if the battery is near full charge - one of those inevitable characteristics of any EV.

[@ChromeFlakes]

It looks super cool, but the deal breaker for me is lack of one pedal driving. Nissan had this in 2017, it should be standard issue on all new EVs by now. Also a one second delay throttle response on an already slow car has removed what makes driving electric fun. It’ll just be software mapping to give it an extra 3 miles per charge if the power isn’t instant. Unforgivable. However, Nicol is always such a ray of sunshine when reviewing cars; it’s hard to stay annoyed for too long. Pandastic! 😂😂😂

[@ikhawaja41]

What's the electric driving range?

[@Brian-om2hh]

She mentioned it in the video......

[@AleksandarStefanovic]

Looks over-engineered in appearance and under-engineered in performance (acceleration, range, charging speed, handling). I guess that there's an audience for this kind of a car, but I'm sure that this Panda will be in a completely different price class than the original

[@alexishart1989]

Bring the Grande Panda to Australia, Stellantis! At that price, this thing will sell in the thousands.

[@avtomad722]

It has been such a long wait for this Panda, and by the looks of it, it was worth the wait, I just love it! Looking forward to testing one, and hopefully purchasing- I agree on the Steelies - they look so more suited to this type of car. I wonder if I can get one in Luna Bronze with steel wheels? (the electric one)

[@thmsprbr]

Yes, you can. I think all colors are available for both versions.

[@dallasangler]

Three cheers for the rear window wiper....small things can be so HUGE

[@alioscopy-glasses-free-3D]

Nicola - tipsy, or otherwise, your reviews are always entertaining! FIAT always made quirky small cars… but the Stellantis behemoth is in danger of ruining most, if not all, of its brands. 🙄 Like you, I think this new Panda is fun… but the electric model is too compromised - so the hybrid has to be the better option. Keep making watchable content. 👍🏼

[@Auribundo]

"A total gamechanger". Really?? I watched the whole video of this 'Vauxhall Frontera' with different design tweaks. I can't fault the presentation, or the enthusiasm for the product, but anyone with a garden hose will know that that cable will not wind back into its holder after a few weeks. Other than that, neither the battery power, nor range, is game-changing, neither is the price, speed, handling nor practicality (not even door mirrors). So please let us know what is "a total gamechanger". Click bait!

[@martinnielsen9126]

It looks great, and great idea with the cable in the front. But it is a stellantis product, so the alarm clocks are ringing loudly

[@richardhargrave6082]

Love it, and the R5. Steelies are the way to go! They should do steelies as a option for all versions