Element RC Enduro VS. Traxxas TRX-4 Sport - shootout

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@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
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@andrewengland8021
@andrewengland8021 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, in the uk the rtr element is 130 dollars cheaper than the trx4 sport rtr. I cant decide which one to get, taking the difference in price would it make the element a no brainer?
@dezfan
@dezfan 5 жыл бұрын
Love them both but Associated has my heart. 1984 RC10 is what got me into RC and 35+ years later....👍🏼
@advancedtacmachine
@advancedtacmachine 5 жыл бұрын
Associated rc10gt was what got me into the sport i still have it too. Good shocks and pan
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
RC10 in my childhood. Then B4 buggy and 8th scale in my pre-kids racing days. Legacy!!
@jps3903
@jps3903 5 жыл бұрын
Dezfan I’m with you. My 17.5 buggy is a B6d. I’m rooting for Associated to succeed at this.
@HagueD22
@HagueD22 5 жыл бұрын
How do these compare to a traxxas summit 1/10?
@kennethwelty1190
@kennethwelty1190 5 жыл бұрын
I have associated cars and a B5M too. 2 Elements 1 rtr1 kit.
@siedpe13
@siedpe13 3 жыл бұрын
Im really curious how the newer element stuff compares to the trx4 sport now. id love to see a comparison between the trx4 sport and element ecto personally!
@photographermatt
@photographermatt 5 жыл бұрын
The Enduro does need weight in the front for steep inclines Mine was doing backflips on steep hills Enduro is a excellent crawling and trailing rig ! Stock servo is a metal gear Reedy 1320mg @6v 173oz I had no issues while out trailing & crawling with it Motor is a 16t Reedy stayed cool on the 90 degree day we crawled Reedy SC400X Brushed ESC - worked perfectly & ran cool Shocks are smooth ! It crawls over terrain beautifully XP130 Controller is awesome & top speed is adjustable 👍 What I did to mine Made a custom 4/5mm Bullet connector to deans for my Shorty packs Changed the overdrive to 11.83% Removed stock bumpers Trimmed fenders (they hit the tires) Installed aluminum servo horn Install traxxas slash 12mm hexes Servo tape the truck bed and reattached the screws Put on SSD rims w/Jconcepts Ruptures w/Pro-Line Dualstage Foams Neck strap on controller held on w/ziptie
@dennychaput4689
@dennychaput4689 4 жыл бұрын
I just picked up an Enduro, I’m not sure if I like the angled bash plate on the front of the IFS. Last night I did a hike n crawl in Suzana pass mtns and it repeatedly gets hung up at that fr axle area . My Axial AX-10 Skorpian with 2.2 rims had a lot more capable in sleuce pit. However the realistic ness of the Element Enduro is boss, I like the IFS except for the lower front clearance,(just got to choose smoother lines.
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
A few of our Element RC steering bolts were not torqued properly and caused a bit of steering play. We tightened everything up and got 115 cm of steering diameter. A little bit better. So check all your steering bolts cause it limits steering. There is still a bit of flex in the shock towers and panhard that hurts steering diameter a bit. The vehicle is hard to trim straight. It seems to veer toward the direction where it last turned.
@TerraQuestRC
@TerraQuestRC 5 жыл бұрын
Notices that as well, the straight tracking, after I tightened up things. Seems the truck likes it loose. Could be the the servo, though its the best rtr servo yet, still lacks enough of something to return to center fully.
@dexgalindo8735
@dexgalindo8735 5 жыл бұрын
I have both and my Sendero definitely pulls its weight against it.
@juanmoreira8272
@juanmoreira8272 9 ай бұрын
My brother just got the new trx4 bronco. I am considering the enduro knightwalker. Is the comparison here similar to those new models? Would you do a video on those newer models?? Thanks!
@Mr_Dia-Tribe
@Mr_Dia-Tribe 5 жыл бұрын
the best and most honest reviews on youtube. Thanks
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
why thank you. We had a lot more to say but this was too long. Next one is 5 problems of the Element RC and how to solve them.
@Rocketman442-RC
@Rocketman442-RC 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Nothing against traxxas but their technical stuff just never adds up to Team Associated. Been an AE racer and basher since 1989. Also a collector of vintage RC. Traxxas had my vote until i seen the Enduro and decided to buy it few months ago. Again great review
@stpbasss3773
@stpbasss3773 4 жыл бұрын
I am usually an anti traxxas guy but I have to admit the trx4 is insanely capable and and very durable easily traxxas most durable RC. I have the Bronco and sport trx4, I used to have a gen8 that was pretty good too just not as durable as the trx4 but pretty capable and I've had 2 axial scx10ii that were good but only after some upgrades like shocks and things. I really think my next crawler is going to be an element but I'm having a tough time deciding between the sendero, trailwalker or trailrunner lol.
@TerraQuestRC
@TerraQuestRC 5 жыл бұрын
Not rooting for Traxxas, Element either. But I figured it was going to be a tough call in the end. If you know your trails, you will be able to decide which is more suitable. As it is, I kind of hoped that the Element would do better, especially in the turn radius. Really is going to come down to personal preference, Traxxas haters will be all over the Sendero claiming it to be better of course. Personally I don't like the Sport body, the Sendero gets my vote, but looks like it will have to be replaced sooner. Element has some catching up to do and the 3rd party support is going to be a key player for the success of this vehicle. So, Sport needs a better servo, and overdrive front diff (maybe), some time spent cleaning the windows or new unpainted body. Sendero, tires, esc (HW1080), bumpers or mod them, and body sooner. Cost for modifications is pretty close to each other so that doesn't help tip the scale, really is going to come down to style over performance. And don't get me going on the "portals aren't scale", maybe not stock but they do make them and get installed on 1:1 rigs. Enjoyed every minute and it was an eye opener to realizing the the Sport really is tough to beat.
@RTmadnesstoo
@RTmadnesstoo 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis!
@TerraQuestRC
@TerraQuestRC 5 жыл бұрын
@@RTmadnesstoo its been three weeks and the Element is now in the hands of the common man. The Element Enduro Facebook page is pretty full of the other issues being found and how they are being addressed. Let's just say that the Sendero is finally performing well, but having the growing pains that the Redcat Scout also experienced.
@RTmadnesstoo
@RTmadnesstoo 5 жыл бұрын
@@TerraQuestRC Too bad I don't facebook
@davidspinney7344
@davidspinney7344 5 жыл бұрын
Yes very good analysis.
@NikkiNexo777
@NikkiNexo777 5 жыл бұрын
This probably has to be the most intelligent, unbiased reply that I've seen to a head-to-head comparison of any vehicles.
@donsmith10
@donsmith10 5 жыл бұрын
I own both trucks. I bought both as soon as they hit the market. I've driven both trucks box stock on the exact same trail and rocks. They are so close it's not funny, really it would come down to personal choice. Quality wise my Element was damaged and packaged that way. The Sport had no issues. If you leave the front bumper on the Element it performs poorly and would get beat by a lot of trucks. The motor is much smoother and quieter than the Sport but like RCREVIEW said reverse is super touchy and difficult to master. Tires about the same the more you run them the better they get. The portals and overdrive cancel each other out on my trails. The Element body is super thin, like break on the first run thin so I taped the inside of mine to strengthen it. As far as this videos assessment I agree the Sport has a minute advantage. Either truck is a great choice and I think this debate will go on and on lol.
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
great insight
@anotherstar8125
@anotherstar8125 Жыл бұрын
what's different between this Enduro, Enduro HD, and Enduro SE?
@tylerjames1716
@tylerjames1716 5 жыл бұрын
Are these useable in the snow? I'm a dirty freestyle drone guy but I've been looking for something to do in the winter. Crawlers appeal to me more than racers since I'm more laid back and not competitive. A local hobby guy reccomended both these models and I'm so torn on which one to get.
@RC_Trailing
@RC_Trailing 2 жыл бұрын
which mode do you have the trx4 in? it has 5 different modes. I found out that the crawl mode is the mode with the strongest drag brake.
@Bruce_Warren
@Bruce_Warren 5 жыл бұрын
RC Review, RC Review..... Another OUTSTANDING review! I wasn't at first impressed with the TRX-4 (Defender). In fact I acquired a Gen-8 prior to purchasing my first TRX-4 (Chassis kit), now I own three (Bronco-kit, sport-kit, Defender-RTR in that order lol) HWY-1 were the first to help me realize the capabilities of the TRX-4 and your vids have been driving the point home since! I also own Axials, HPI and Vaterra crawlers, the TRX are my hands down favorites! The Element is another great option l, but there is only one king! Thanks again, for the informative reviews.
@bapasrcadventures3619
@bapasrcadventures3619 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your reviews. Very helpful. Can you tell me what the bumpers are that you put on the element? Thanks again
@BoylstonBobby
@BoylstonBobby 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative review and seemed unbiased- I enjoy your reviews because you rarely bad mouth any product/brand. I’ve been following your channel for quite a while and your reviews are excellent, but I would appreciate more step-by-step video on upgrades. For instance you talk about over/under gearing on the TRX, but a detailed video showing the parts required and then steps on how to install would be very helpful. Thanks for all the good info.
@xxxxxx-rm2pn
@xxxxxx-rm2pn 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. What says it all to me is Traxxas hooked their shocks up properly (only Vanquish has also done this) in a double sheer setup. It's getting old when companies keep screwing the shock tops into a flat surface and preventing proper shock articulation or causing binding.
@jenslund6447
@jenslund6447 5 жыл бұрын
Was looking to get the Enduro, but no one in Norway sells this car yet and by the looks of it the TRX-4 Sport is a better choice. Now, that being said, do you know the travel on the stock servo on TRX-4 Sport? With the TX/RX/ESC included you can't switch to a Savox 1210SG without swapping all the electronics due to no adjusting the maximum angle on the servo. So to keep the stock electronic, the only way to upgrade the servo is to go with the Traxxas 2255? My brother tried to install the 1210SG in a stock TRX-4 Sport and it twisted the whole front axle. Got any tips for a servo besides the 2255, or do I need to change it all up?
@saltysteel3996
@saltysteel3996 3 жыл бұрын
TRX4 is my favorite. Especially the K5 Blazer version.
@ans05
@ans05 5 жыл бұрын
@21:00 the sport had no bumpers and the Enduro did. Wonder if the Enduro would've done better with no bumpers.
@niccadoodles
@niccadoodles 5 жыл бұрын
For sure. Mine does way better with just the bumpers flipped, new holes drilled to posts to pull rear bumper in even further.
@northsandiegorc3276
@northsandiegorc3276 4 жыл бұрын
Also should have used the enduros 11.8% OD in this Dave off as it’s included in the box...🙄 would have helped with the turning radius, climbing and descending.
@tgjaedan
@tgjaedan 4 жыл бұрын
@@northsandiegorc3276 He said he put the 12% overdrive in it and tried it with that, too.
@northsandiegorc3276
@northsandiegorc3276 4 жыл бұрын
@@tgjaedan but he didn't use it in the shoot out...
@jamesbucek2534
@jamesbucek2534 5 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison and non bias. I have a TRX-4 and just purchased the Element because of the good comments that I read in various reviews and was curious. I changed out the bumpers first off, replaced front and rear diff covers with brass and changed most of the plastic parts to the hard plastic upgraded available. Also trimmed the wheel wells some and added nice decals available on Amazon specifically for the body. Still waiting on two out of stock hard plastic parts though. Changing out the ESC as well. Working on a Killer body after I seen one you speculated on.
@seavee2000
@seavee2000 5 жыл бұрын
I own neither of these but had already decided that on my limited budget,the TRX4 Sport kit would be my next crawler. This video confirms my choice. My first "proper" RC car was an RC12E so I have a lot of affection for the brand,but for pure performance the TRX has it. I don't think people should forget that this (the Enduro) is a new car and still a WIP,the TRX has been developed over time to get where it is,I'm sure the Element will do the same,but at the cost of the purchasers pocket....excellent video again the best.
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
thanks buddy. Yes, we grew up with Associated. This one still has bugs to work out but it is a better value and will wake up the whole crawler industry.
@lowndawg420
@lowndawg420 4 жыл бұрын
hey quick question do you prefer 1.9 over 2.2 tires?
@steveblackbird
@steveblackbird 3 жыл бұрын
I'm far from a fan boy... But the TRX-4 is a solid well thought out machine, always will be.. I quite like the body shell... thinking of putting it onto my SCX10-3 lol....... though the SCX-10 and the Sendero etc are epic RC's too... with a few mods they get awfully close... in the end... it's what we love and the mateship we all share..... Side note: The Traxxas X-Maxx makes the ultimate crawler..... just sayin' lol.
@paulwoolams4007
@paulwoolams4007 5 жыл бұрын
I notice you don't mention departure ,approach and ramp over angles in the comparisons..maybe something to include in your comparo's for next time.Also suspension travel differences like which one has more flex in the front and rear.
@jameswagner5098
@jameswagner5098 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought a New TRX4 and the very next day....picked up a used TRX4 with Traxxas Charger and 2 Traxxas batteries for $240, Excellent Crawlers. The Element will undoubtedly be my next purchase, I’m hoping very soon!
@dj070906
@dj070906 5 жыл бұрын
What would be your first upgrade for the element?
@RTmadnesstoo
@RTmadnesstoo 5 жыл бұрын
What did you mean when you went to the Proline tires and said, 'Heavier tires on the front'? You never mentioned how the two compare in weight or maybe I missed it. Watching them drive it appears that the Traxxas weighs more but that could be the shock/suspension setup.
@igeliga
@igeliga 5 жыл бұрын
What is the front bumper of the Enduro. Traxxas TRX4 front bumpers fits on the enduro front bumper mount?
@jaybenson2247
@jaybenson2247 5 жыл бұрын
Hard hitting no nonsense, love it! Not the outcome I was hoping for, but the chips fall where they may. I have based my last 3 purchase’s on your reviews and have not been disappointed, so thank you for saving me from myself and a little bit of money too! Your word is Bourne, your following is growing and I hope when the big boys come calling and I suspect if they aren’t they will be soon that you don’t sell out. Stay true brother, your the dopest voice out there right now!
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
It's not the outcome were hoping for either. We were rooting for the new kid! But it was very close.
@mikeyfourbarrel8473
@mikeyfourbarrel8473 5 жыл бұрын
The Enduro is still very interesting to me. If I wasn’t still enjoying my Gen8, I think this is the one I’d go for. The clever tricks and original thinking in the design are very appealing...and no offense to the Sport but the Enduro body looks way better to my eye. That’s more important than I like to admit. :)
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Most folks get interested because of the body, like real cars. Hey, we're in 'scale trail' category after all.
@mcnellysrcworld5967
@mcnellysrcworld5967 4 жыл бұрын
What front bumper is on the Element?
@thor_4017
@thor_4017 3 жыл бұрын
Is the trx4 really built like a tank? People say trx4 portal input gear is like pot metal. First thing to break and expensive to upgrade. Element has some plastic gears in the transmission but their probably cheaper and easier to upgrade than Input gear in 4 corners of the car. People who bashes element gatekeeper say it takes more punishment than axial wraith, bomber and capra. I'm not convinced a kit with portal axles takes the same punishment. I still don't own any of these. Just researching for my next purchase. I'm looking for more basher, stock crawling performance isn't that important to me. I'm considering gmade gs02f, element gatekeeper, and trx4 sport.
@billderas3420
@billderas3420 5 жыл бұрын
Have to believe that this is your most concise comparison test to date. You really hit the important points. You are my hero! Because I have positive feelings about Associated/Element, I will build up one of the Elements from the kit when it becomes available. Looking forward to you "developing" the Element down the road. Only one question comes to mind...What batteries and placements did you use for each vehicle in the showdown? Full-size, shorties, other? Thanks again.
@NaturallyRC
@NaturallyRC 4 жыл бұрын
Fair, balanced, and honest (even tho' my chassis lost). That said, I went with the Trailwalker (subsequently released and AFTER AE dropped the price) which fixes the Sendero body/bumper shortcomings. The TW 1.5s are too small and hard, but everyone switches anyway (don't they?) and the go-kart wheels and tires fit nicely on a 1/12 vehicle of mine. Thanks again for the great comparison.
@pedraza_rc1812
@pedraza_rc1812 2 жыл бұрын
What stinger bumper is that on the sendero
@dustinrossi9384
@dustinrossi9384 2 жыл бұрын
You gonna review the axial scx10 base camp?
@traxrc
@traxrc 5 жыл бұрын
The only reason why Team Associated made the body so thin was so it was light, this makes it less top heavy and a better performer
@hardcoretam
@hardcoretam 5 жыл бұрын
Nah the reason was to make it cheaper to produce for the RTR model. If you buy the clear version of the body, it's actually a thicker plastic.
@hardcoretam
@hardcoretam 4 жыл бұрын
@@ctsteve1967 that doesnt make sense to me. I dont understand what you are refferijg to.
@leorybrownoldestrckidintow6760
@leorybrownoldestrckidintow6760 5 жыл бұрын
Great review, but I have a question about one of the test. Is it possible that the radio transmitter setting was not allowing the servo the fully turn during the steering diameter test on the Enduro trail truck? Your test indicate a average turning diameter of 57.87 inches. That is more than the original SXC10 turning diameter and 143% of my tuned SCX10 II. Please re test the Enduro turning diameter. Many Thanks
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Will do. Will retest for sure. Will check toe-in too. It’s a high traction surface as well
@rayzalentyjr.6273
@rayzalentyjr.6273 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't replacing the esc fix the reverse issue and not the radio/receiver?
@SJTYSKA
@SJTYSKA 5 жыл бұрын
with a decent radio you can limit your reverse to whatever you desire
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
maybe. What will work for sure is controlling the expo curve or the sensitivity of the reverse. That might affect the forward movement though which is already perfect.
@SJTYSKA
@SJTYSKA 5 жыл бұрын
@@RCReviewChannel in a 5 point throttle curve you can change only the point in the curve you desire. No need to adjust the forward, only reverse
@Vok250
@Vok250 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. The Enduro is on sale here in Canada, although still costs more than a TRX4 Sport.
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! International pricing is crazy sometimes. Throws off the value proposition.
@Vok250
@Vok250 4 жыл бұрын
@@RCReviewChannel Yeah it's tough to source trucks here if you don't live near a shop. I have to order from across the country or from China. Importing from the US is brutally expensive.
@LeftenantMalachi
@LeftenantMalachi 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video, or tell me how, on how to adjust sensitivity going backwards with a 415 DX5C? I have a Gen 8 Scout, and it has the same problem as the Element, reserve is TOO fast. I can't seem to figure out how to reduce sensitivity in reverse, otherwise I like the Scout. Thanks!
@jamescinadr243
@jamescinadr243 3 жыл бұрын
When you gonna review the HD?
@blackbirdrc8348
@blackbirdrc8348 4 жыл бұрын
Ive watched this video 3 times. Its amazing what aftermarket tires will do! What compound do you use on the hyrax? Also are those red beadlocks from xtra speed? One more thing I promise lol. Is the bumper on the sendero the yeah racing stinger for the scx10 and trx4?
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Always predator compound. The beadlocks are proline Method wheels
@montesamapping
@montesamapping 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best reviews ever !
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
much appreciated!!!!
@JDMJDK
@JDMJDK 5 жыл бұрын
Wow my choice got harder, yet easier. A TRX Sport builder kit is only $280 which leaves room for an optimal ESC and motor combo. I still want to give that Enduro a try though. Your review was the transparent and honest info I expected and left very little room for doubt. Thank you as always. ...... And to whoever claimed the driving style compromised the comparo, he explained the Associated’s “embarrassing” drivability issue at the start of the video. 👍🏼🏁💯💯💯
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
TRX-4 builders kit for sure. Can sell that bed rack for $40. Can weight the tires and mod them for amazing performance.
@JDMJDK
@JDMJDK 5 жыл бұрын
RC Review Its hard to argue with the steering radius, my SCX10 is atrocious. Plus I already have Beadlocked PitBulls and Hyrax tire sets. Thank you again! 🤙🏼
@northsandiegorc3276
@northsandiegorc3276 4 жыл бұрын
Why was the element not equipped with the 11.8% overdrive that comes in the box? Would have actually made it a much more fair fight in not only turning radius, but climbing/descending and reducing torque twist... all pretty important factors.
@desertcobrabattalion1890
@desertcobrabattalion1890 5 жыл бұрын
Thank u and in my trx 4 defender I want to do upgrades to it but I am a noob and just was looking for alil help for it
@scaletrailguy6760
@scaletrailguy6760 5 жыл бұрын
Yes Good Informative Content, I have been running my enduro for a few days and the one thing that keeps coming to mind is the Precise and calculated Precision performance of the Sendero-
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Precision is a good term for it. Shows their racing heritage.
@delightedcuttz2341
@delightedcuttz2341 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to get both trucks ...I have a Axial scx10 2 Trailblazer ..I want these two and the Ford F - 350 with a trailer YesYes by the summer!!
@dirtberger4533
@dirtberger4533 5 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks. I have some ideas for fixing the reverse on the Element. Let you know if it works.
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Please let us know. New ESC seems to be the main option.
@dirtberger4533
@dirtberger4533 5 жыл бұрын
@@RCReviewChannel I will, thanks for all the great info and video's🏁👻👍
@thomasgross8289
@thomasgross8289 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest unbiased review
@BANTAM53
@BANTAM53 5 жыл бұрын
Great Review! I still bought the Element. :-D
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
still a great vehicle!!! We're lucky to have it in the crawler space as it will push every manufacturer to offer more.
@stevenrees6015
@stevenrees6015 4 жыл бұрын
So did I.
@coltongreenhaw647
@coltongreenhaw647 4 жыл бұрын
Think my next one will be the element too
@kevina1980
@kevina1980 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are the best, most honest channel on the Tube. Have you ever thought about doing a series on actually setting these rigs up as they would be for comps? Class 1 and 2 with scale points etc. I would be super interested in seeing that. The TRX4 sports at my local comps dont seem to perform that well. Your results would be interesting.
@SebastianLong
@SebastianLong 5 жыл бұрын
When the element RC came out, I thought it would be a lot better than the test has proved based on the over/underdrive. I like the element RC though. Something about it I like but can't put my finger on it. I have the TRX Bronco and I love it!, but if I ever get another crawler, it is between the element and the axial scx10-2. The Axial looks like my real 1 to 1 except mine is black. The Element looks a lot like a Ford Ranger. Either way, I haven't found a "bad" RC that is produced today. It just comes down to a few things. Availability of the RC and spare parts, cost, body, chassis, and the gadgetry such as multispeed and lockers. I think the Transmitter and receiver brand might also help or offset the purchase
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
great options for us now!!
@maulog28
@maulog28 5 жыл бұрын
Great review as always. I would be interrested to see what you thing of a lesser brand like RGT. They have that RGT EX86100 PRO Kit around… is it any good against the big boys? Thanks again.
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
We don't see that around here. We have a review of an MST with portals coming up. We find small brands have a lot of play in the drivetrain and steering. No upgrades or mods too.
@boostedKTM
@boostedKTM 4 жыл бұрын
Would you give the gen 8 3rd? Your review of it is y got one 3 days ago..lol
@leorybrownoldestrckidintow6760
@leorybrownoldestrckidintow6760 5 жыл бұрын
Just had another independent hobby firm duplicate the Steering Diameter test between the TRX4 and Enduro trucks. You for sure have a "Blunder of Testing" in your results. The Enduro does turn much sharper than the TRX4. I have neither of those vehicles but, I do have SCX10's and SCX10 ii's to compare with. Based on other You Tube examples between the Axial and Traxxas products, I believe you test results for the TRX4 are correct.
@keepingitonehundred
@keepingitonehundred 5 жыл бұрын
Great Review! I liked your newer editing style where you put the testing footage at the end instead of top of your review. Keep up the great work. Quick ? - Should I go with the TRX4 sport or Trx4 if money is not an issue? The sport looks awesome and you declare it king, so for most folks are the additional 2 gear transmission and lock/unlock diffs fun but not really necessary? In another words is there any place a trx4 can go that the trrx4 sport can't go?
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
that's great feedback. Thank you!!!
@joedesalvo3316
@joedesalvo3316 5 жыл бұрын
doesnt really change my mind... already have the Element.. LOL I may pick up the Traxxas at some point.. but the ID system really puts me off
@JK-qv8sv
@JK-qv8sv 5 жыл бұрын
Just get the sport kit, add your own electrics
@matthewneufer1758
@matthewneufer1758 5 жыл бұрын
Put a hobby wing system in it
@TerraQuestRC
@TerraQuestRC 5 жыл бұрын
The ID is a problem? I have yet to run a single ID battery on my Traxxas esc's. Adapters or solder new Deans or XT60 plugs.
@jameswagner5098
@jameswagner5098 4 жыл бұрын
They make Traxxas to Deans (ETC.) Connectors and I regularly use one without issue. I have SCX10, SCX10.2’s a couple TRX4 Sports, and hopefully very soon an Element Enduro. I crawl with a group of guys with every imaginable vehicle you could think of. The truth is they all do well. The Element has my attention as I’ve seen it in the wild many times and it’s a great performer.
@linh811
@linh811 4 жыл бұрын
guess you can't solder LOL since we're doing the LOL LOL
@geligapictures
@geligapictures 5 жыл бұрын
does element rc suffers torque twist?
@riverridgecrawlers9444
@riverridgecrawlers9444 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome review once again! It would've really surprised me to see Element beat Traxxas right out of the gate. They better keep keep their eye on the ball though. For Elements 1st entry into the crawling market, I would have to say they did quite well. Still surprises me that they didn't at least offer a portal axle option.
@ShenRC
@ShenRC 5 жыл бұрын
I agree but If only associated made portal axles it could have been killer don't know why they did not go to the new in thing and went old school?
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
They wanted to give a great package for the non-portal crowd. And they wanted to hit that $350 price point
@Thatbobberlife
@Thatbobberlife 5 жыл бұрын
Are you in San Diego? Linda Vista SD? Looking at getting one of these for my boys and looking for places to go. Thanks.
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
No. San Jose, CA
@northsandiegorc3276
@northsandiegorc3276 4 жыл бұрын
There’s Torrey pines glider port, lake wohlford, Elfin forest, Del cerro, mission trails...
@paulallen-01
@paulallen-01 4 жыл бұрын
Could you change the ESC in the Enduro to maybe program less power to the reverse gear?
@NaturallyRC
@NaturallyRC 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking as an owner, nope, the ESC cannot be adjusted. Not sure if Francis meant to say better "ESC" at 9:11 or not, but either one is correct. A different tx (with lots of settings) does in fact help. I am running the stock ESC motor combo with a DX5C. I have a HW 1080 in my parts drawer, but no longer see the need for it in this vehicle.
@paulallen-01
@paulallen-01 4 жыл бұрын
NaturallyRC oh ok, thank for the info
@michaeljohnson4115
@michaeljohnson4115 2 жыл бұрын
Best vs videos on KZbin.
@JDMJDK
@JDMJDK 5 жыл бұрын
Which truck has the better shocks ‘real world’ in your opinion?
@photographermatt
@photographermatt 5 жыл бұрын
They both have amazing shocks right out of the box
@photographermatt
@photographermatt 5 жыл бұрын
I think the Enduro felt just a little better when I crawled compared to my TRX4 Tactical but both are great stock!
@mikeupton5406
@mikeupton5406 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown on the pros and cons. I'm going to be interested in how the Element truck evolves.now that is in the hands of the customers.
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. We're hearing a lot of little issue. No big ones though. This version 1.0 is pretty darn good. Better than any current more expensive Axial.
@jasonlund4750
@jasonlund4750 5 жыл бұрын
That silver and black blazer in the video was CLEAN look really nice
@splintergg
@splintergg 5 жыл бұрын
Is the wheelbase the same on these trucks?
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
both 12.3 inches
@carcdriver8146
@carcdriver8146 3 жыл бұрын
The selectable locking diffs seems really nice. Would love to try one against my Sendero where I go.
@levibeebe9100
@levibeebe9100 4 жыл бұрын
It's been said reversing the polarity of the motor on the associated fixes reverse alot
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@mr.shelly1812
@mr.shelly1812 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought the real fun is getting a rig, no matter how capable or expensive, to perform or climb better than you think it should.😎 Great rigs, both look like a good time.
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
i think you captured our spirit there. Get good rigs to do more! And have fun trying.
@jbeatty811
@jbeatty811 5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the RC4WD vehicles??
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
No but a few in our group have them. So pricey and more for scale than performance.
@wildmangeorgesrcchannel6916
@wildmangeorgesrcchannel6916 5 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking can you do the turning radius test again but on grass or dirt. The enduro has really good traction and I don’t think the pavement sidewalk test is fair because of the surface or do it on dirt but with the same exact tires on both trucks
@TerraQuestRC
@TerraQuestRC 5 жыл бұрын
Worn cement is a good media for testing, if your taking the rigs on rocks, rarely will you have great traction and testing the rigs while turning on a surface like cement will clue to the performance. Turn radius does matter when crawling, you have to be able to turn and make it on to that next rock. I have a favorite place for testing mine before hitting the trail, the surface is so close to the rock faces on the hill that I am able to tell if work needs done before heading out. My test spot is a 51 degree cement embankment 6' high. The Sport made it without any modifications but with a slight twisted three wheel ascent, the Sendero makes the approach (with new bumpers), but just sits at the bottom spinning the tires. Even after putting the Canyon's on the Sendero, it was the same. It lacks the weight of the Sport and couldn't force enough grip to ascend. The General's wouldn't grip that well on the Sport either, partial ascents and then just start sliding down.
@SJTYSKA
@SJTYSKA 5 жыл бұрын
5 slots , not poles. when talking poles you are referring to brushless
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Correct!!!! 5 slots in the armature. 5 electromagnet segments. Appreciate this very much.
@CarminesRCTipsandTricks
@CarminesRCTipsandTricks 5 жыл бұрын
Give him a small break though... Us older guys started with ONLY Brushed Motors. We called them ALL "Poles"..... It's an adjustment I'm making myself! 😉
@wyattmcduffee
@wyattmcduffee 3 жыл бұрын
I have driven both and definitely prefer the TRX-4 Sport. The Sendero is still awesome though and just as much fun, maybe a little more at times.
@seandonno9248
@seandonno9248 4 жыл бұрын
Here in UK the TRX-4 Sport RTR is $511 and the Element is $381.25. Quite a difference!
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 4 жыл бұрын
That's crazy!
@mosteller2889
@mosteller2889 5 жыл бұрын
The main difference I see in the video, are the tires. Every now and then the portal axles come to play. Am I right? It looks like pretty much same capabilities except for portal clearance
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
steering, modulation and the TRX-4 is more planted in loose stuff or in very technical climbs. Sendero does very well on steep slabs. They are very close though and in a league of their own.
@mosteller2889
@mosteller2889 5 жыл бұрын
I have trx4 blazer. Can it be trimmed down to be a sport in every aspect, or are there some differences that only the sport possesses
@ScurvyK1D
@ScurvyK1D 5 жыл бұрын
I love an underdog, Element for me!
@ScurvyK1D
@ScurvyK1D 4 жыл бұрын
@@ctsteve1967 Dude, this comment is 8 months old, where have you been? haha.
@theskeptik1
@theskeptik1 4 жыл бұрын
@@ctsteve1967 Quarantine must be hitting you hard Greg. Sad deal.
@1967illya
@1967illya 5 жыл бұрын
I was at that point where i had to order one of them. Been following the development and early reactions as the first ones came out and decided to put my money on the TRx4 sport. I guess i have chosen wisely....
@joseCalderon1976
@joseCalderon1976 4 жыл бұрын
I went with the trx4 sport. It will be the companion for my axial scx10 II blazer. Thanks.
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Good call. Durability and performance king
@joseCalderon1976
@joseCalderon1976 4 жыл бұрын
@@RCReviewChannel I cheated and bought it at my LHS (good guy) together with the light kit. He'll instaló it for me for $30. I just don't have the time to do it myself because of my busy work schedule. Hehe
@joseCalderon1976
@joseCalderon1976 4 жыл бұрын
@@RCReviewChannel Well one of the shocks on the axial is leaking. I'll have to send Horizon Hobby a message about that. I experienced this with my Arrma granite 4x4 BLX too. Interesting. I'll see if the trx4 sport gives me any trouble out the box. I hope not.
@greggk1061
@greggk1061 5 жыл бұрын
Truly great insight. What would you say are the weaknesses of the Element RC Enduro Sendero? Love that we have another great choice now.
@blackbirdrc8348
@blackbirdrc8348 4 жыл бұрын
this is why i love this channel. No bullshit! The problem with the element's reverse is the 75/25 throttle position the stock controller comes with. Even with the new axe gen8 coming out I still think i'm gonna opt for the element as my second rig. It'll go nice wit my trx4 sport.
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 4 жыл бұрын
They're both so close. Element is more flexible. TRX4 is more robust.
@chrisgittings7112
@chrisgittings7112 5 жыл бұрын
Luv the vids keep it up enjoying them I don’t think you will ever find another truck to knock off the king oh and thx great info on all the trucks might wait for the kit edition for the element I wish it had portals I think it would make it a better truck once again thx for all your info it is very helpful.
@gatovoladorup
@gatovoladorup 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, but love my Element Enduro!!!
@Ricky84900
@Ricky84900 2 жыл бұрын
Hi man thanks for the videos, I ordered the element after watching your videos !
@chriscook6407
@chriscook6407 4 жыл бұрын
I love your channel...you helped me pick the trx4 sport...i absolutely love it...I took the bumpers off like you said and it's a huge difference..your info is top notch my friend...!!!!!
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@LosihoTTT
@LosihoTTT 4 жыл бұрын
And my winner is.....both ! Yes I'm extremely spoilt so I just bought both trucks. I immediately bought the MKS X5 HLB550 servo for both trucks, a Hot Racing alloy servo horn for the TRX4 Sport, and the Hobbywing 1080 ESC for the TRX4 - I didn't want to mess around with the extra BEC for the Traxxas ESC, and I don't want to use Traxxas ID plugs
@davidspinney7344
@davidspinney7344 5 жыл бұрын
Buddy of mine just installed the 10.2 front axle in his sendaro. Likes the overdrive much better. Just a side thought. Great video as always
@nunodias3331
@nunodias3331 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, a well done comparison both are realy nice trucks but i still want the axial scx10 2 honcho thats my dream rc truck... i know that is not as good but i realy love the honcho since that grey one that i fall in love with it...
@kennethwelty1190
@kennethwelty1190 5 жыл бұрын
Still it took Traxxas 4 tries to build it right. Element has time too fix the problems. I have 4 TRX-4s 3 Gen-7s 2 Gen-8s 1 Hpi Venture 2 Vetteras a few Axails . Afew E-10 conversions with scx-1o chassis 1 Maverick Axail scx-10 conversion to.
@dzrcz8683
@dzrcz8683 5 жыл бұрын
Just curious... what’s you fav? Mine is Ascender. I have a TRX4 tac version. Scx10 deadbolt which I doubled price in upgrades and still think it’s trash compare to either ascender or trx4. And literally just completed scx10ii raw builder kit so I’ll see 🤷🏻‍♂️.
@erebus1964
@erebus1964 5 жыл бұрын
I miss the GMade BOM in your list ... ;-)
@dzrcz8683
@dzrcz8683 5 жыл бұрын
kenneth welty nice collection! 😳. How do you like the HPI Ventura? I’m looking at getting one. Mainly love the FJ appearance.
@kennethwelty1190
@kennethwelty1190 5 жыл бұрын
Never seen on where I live. @@erebus1964
@kennethwelty1190
@kennethwelty1190 5 жыл бұрын
@@dzrcz8683 sits on a shelf have not driven it yet. Drove my element and fixed the flaws esc and tires.
@but531
@but531 4 жыл бұрын
So after i have see some of your videos i must say that trx 4 sport, is one of the most capable or the most capable scale truck. Climps very easy , i am very impressed about this vehicle.
@kaiarmitage2690
@kaiarmitage2690 3 жыл бұрын
Just got my first car.I was debating between trx4 sport and the sendouro but the picked the Traxxas than watched this video and I am glad I made the right choice
@MrCubflyer
@MrCubflyer 4 жыл бұрын
Great review but who wants to leave it stock the TRX-4 has a lot of upgrades.
@chuckgrc3011
@chuckgrc3011 4 жыл бұрын
I have both. I'm closer to a tie. Traxxas has to get with the program and do clear windows. That's my only gripe.
@SJTYSKA
@SJTYSKA 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for the honest review. I agree with it completely. I was afraid you would jump on the band wagon but im glad you didnt. I own both as well and the only thing I would change is the torque twist comp, I think traxxas wins since the element has that weak c channel chassis and the stiffeners are made of weak plastic
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
ahhhhhhhh.... didn't think think about that. There is a bit of chassis twist allowed since it's the same frame as an Axial. The TRX-4 is 1mm thicker in frame and it's a huge difference.
@DaytonaJim78
@DaytonaJim78 5 жыл бұрын
Still really happy with my sport!
@RCReviewChannel
@RCReviewChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Rest assured, it's good. You do any mods?
@DaytonaJim78
@DaytonaJim78 5 жыл бұрын
@@RCReviewChannel so far' stronger servo, hobbywing 1080, proline 2 stage foam, 75g wheels' 95g front brass portals,65g rear portals, low cg battery tray, and bumper mount flipped and proline bronco cab, next whenever I can afford it I will do ottsix klr-m tires and probably underdrive in rear, check it out on Instagram Daytonajim78
@benatkinson5560
@benatkinson5560 3 жыл бұрын
I own both and they are amazing trucks
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