It's about having the ability to put yourself in the other person's shoes. The torment and abuse the Palestinian people have endured over the decades is absolutely horrendous. Thank you, Mr. Finkelstein, for doing your part to educate people.
@rajkoelguapo129 ай бұрын
Try putting yourself in Israeli shoes....offering 2 state solutions myriad times (only to be met with violence). Having every war started by the Arabs/Palestinians (all of them). Israel has had to wall themselves off from these religious lunatics who would treat you like an animal if you lived among them. Get a clue.
@gregoryn37809 ай бұрын
There is no abuse. infant GDP and population growth in PA are higher than some of the Arab neighbors. All their suffering could be resolved multiple times if the PA leadership accepted the Jewish state and seemed coexistence
@celienat93699 ай бұрын
This is a stupid argument. All populations around the world have grown. Try and find a better one. Their leaders have recognized Israel long time ago. Stop spreading lies and stop calling Israel 'the jewish state'.@@gregoryn3780
@OldTeaMate9 ай бұрын
PA is Westbank,- not Gaza, which has been under siege¥ since 2005, but your point is mood, anyway. The conditions in one country doesn't mandate abuse of citisens in another. Especially not abuse based on etnicity. There are more than 50 discriminating laws in the zionist apartheid occupation, which the delinquents deem a state. Ad to that the unofficial situation on the ground, and you ought to realise, how criminal this regime is. If you do not understand the severity and weight behind such accusations, I suggest you listen to some people, who were born into privilige, but has come to recognise the level of injustice in the system, like Eran Efrati, Miko Peled and Ilan Pappé. ¥Siege = occupation
@s3rv3r3rror89 ай бұрын
@@gregoryn3780The most dumb argument to ever be uttered. It's like saying you have 6 siblings it is oke if i kill one you still have 5. Do you people even use your brain or is it always off??
@fairdose9 ай бұрын
Oh man! Norman looks so tired and his voice is raw and cracked from talking so much - please take good care of yourself Professor Finkelstein - you too important a person for truth and justice in this world!
@BlueGreenTea9 ай бұрын
He always sounds like that 😊 But I agree with your sentiment.
@md85aus949 ай бұрын
🤣
@radioactivewifi9 ай бұрын
"They're enhanced fireworks"- Norman Finkelstein 2018
@yashmin7869 ай бұрын
I like when he says a people without hope is terrible. That's just it. Human Rights for everyone
@a-sf6nc9 ай бұрын
Are you kidding me? When did hamas ever care for human rights? They murdered fatah leaders gays and who ever disagrees with them!!! Israel has. Many problems but the values are in the right direction and the rest of the middle east is far from that unfortunately
@NoName-cu4gr9 ай бұрын
a people who have had 'without hope' gleefully inflicted on them by a brutal sadistic US sponsored Z cult of eastern european colonial imposters, land thieves and liars.
@maryfarrell94399 ай бұрын
True. I’m not sure Eli realizes that it’s because of the deliberate strategy and actions of the State od Israel that make the Palestinians feel hopeless due to the stealing of their land, their nourishment, their employment, their futures. It actually really stood out to me that this obvious fact has been missed by Eli. It’s very clear now, and it’s been stated repeatedly by Israeli ministers and IDF leaders that their goal is to destroy the hope of the Palestinian people so they will leave or die.
@maryfarrell94399 ай бұрын
Teply
@nightflight41919 ай бұрын
Yes and Israel has the right to hope that it can live in peace
@ΝικολαϊςΠρίφτη9 ай бұрын
It is absolutely irrational to expect the occupied and oppressed to sit quietly and not react or to not try to stop the oppression by any means available.
@DevonRyeTheDragonfly9 ай бұрын
Define occupation and oppression in the context of Gaza
@antimediaman93549 ай бұрын
Non-violent forms of resistance are more likely to garner international sympathy and support. This support can be crucial in pressuring oppressors to change their policies and in seeking a just and peaceful resolution. History provides numerous examples where non-violent resistance has led to positive change and the end of oppression, such as the civil rights movement in the United States and the anti-apartheid movement in South Africa.
@rasmushastbacka58849 ай бұрын
@@DevonRyeTheDragonfly About occupation, see the 2004 ICJ case.
@WillemDeHero9 ай бұрын
i agree with that premise. jews have been so oppressed for 80 plus years by arabs and the muslims countries, they deserve to fight for thier land
@Johnwis-gp9yy9 ай бұрын
Where were you when Egypt and Jordan occupied “palestinian land”?… you hypocrite
@FarhatKCh9 ай бұрын
It was so heartbreaking when Prof. Finkelstien said that half of Gaza does not exist.
@catnapgee53579 ай бұрын
lol
@pizzathehut58089 ай бұрын
Heartwarming actually ❤
@Sandcrackattack9 ай бұрын
@@pizzathehut5808 Must be funky to be a bloodlustful racist minority. But it's ok. If you can maintain your own physical violence, maybe you can participate in a civilization somewhere, instead of western barbarism. Good luck doll 👍
@fidelcatsro69489 ай бұрын
yes the apartheid regime unleashed its genocidal and destruction
@micixduda9 ай бұрын
@@pizzathehut5808 When Israel will be paying reparations for its deeds, will you also love it?
@uxinox589 ай бұрын
I started listening to Norman Finkelstein to try to get a Palestinian perspective on the Israel-Palestine issue, having been exposed to the Israeli position my whole life. I hoped to see the flaws and the omissions that ALWAYS arose when listening to the pro-Israeli apologists. I haven't found any. In video after video Norman stands out as a shining beacon of truth, integrity and profound scholarship. Norman may regret that he has focused so much on this single issue; I am so grateful to him for following the path he has. History will vindicate him. The truth will come out. Israel's organised public relations cover up will be exposed. Norman will be seen, in the long run, as one of the very few Jewish patriots. Bless you Norman and thank you Eli for having the courage to listen to what Norman is saying. It's very hard for Israelis to accept the enormity of Israel's history. The new generation, it seems have a great deal more courage than their parents!
@blindspot90979 ай бұрын
I think this is the highest praise ive read to the professor. Brilliant.
@zikfocus9 ай бұрын
Well said Sir ✌🙏😎
@kevinmahon78489 ай бұрын
For 4 decades Norman Finklestien Studied Wrote Spoke and lived amongst the Situation sacrificing income and I am sure Friendships. Few listened. In 2020 He say even He gave up. Now He has been pulled back in as His knowledge is needed more than ever.
@tamarfischer2839 ай бұрын
How can anyone who defends the unprovoked burning of his own babies and the hiding behind civilians and touting their dead be considered a beacon of integrity. Finkelstein is the shame of the nation and will go down in history like those shameful jews who cooperated with the nazis
@philanthropy2449 ай бұрын
You can have whatever opinion of Finkelstein you want to, but calling him a beacon of truth is flat out absurd
@galaxytrio9 ай бұрын
I approve of Eli's polite and serious demeanour, and Norman's decency and intellect shine, as always.
@mdav309 ай бұрын
11:30 He finds these subjects funny, something to smile and laugh about. He's not decent, he's sick.
@fidelcatsro69489 ай бұрын
agreedos!!
@mariadacre96479 ай бұрын
Bollocks.
@bri94989 ай бұрын
Loved the interview but Elii sort of slaped himself in the face asking him for a debate with Destiny... Who tf is he/her? Loved Norman's response...
@bri94989 ай бұрын
A proper thumb up, first time I've watched your channel...
@linguistics96489 ай бұрын
Thank you Dr.Norman Finkelstein for your endless efforts to educate the public on the truth and undeniable facts of the Palestine-Israel issue. You truly are an admirable human being.
@chiquitafeldberg82599 ай бұрын
Holocaust denyer 🤮
@Nigelzenig9 ай бұрын
@UC3Shh3l848tzvvpkA-RLdJw i have been inclined to think that, but he makes good points about the long view of history and is not a hypocrite. The achievement of freedom has not always been bloodless. I incline to pacifism but i cannot deny there is some merit in that argument
@SunVirtuous-vs8rw9 ай бұрын
Norm fink isn’t truthful about anything, he’s a crook, a liar and a fool!
@remogatron10109 ай бұрын
I lost all respect for Finklestein here. Self-hating jew.
@DevonRyeTheDragonfly9 ай бұрын
Are you nuts? The man lies on every occasions and I’m not exaggerating. Fact check anything he says and you’ll find that the man is a compulsive liar and probably psychotic.
@rasmushastbacka58849 ай бұрын
Finkelstein is honest and sharp.
@nightflight41919 ай бұрын
He is not sharp. He seems confused. And denying FACTS is not honest.
@rasmushastbacka58849 ай бұрын
@@nightflight4191 Which fact is he denying?
@MadLadsAnonymous9 ай бұрын
@@rasmushastbacka5884None, that's just another loser Zionist drowining in their own dissonance.
@benb65279 ай бұрын
He basically says all Hamas did was let in thousands of horny, violent BOYS onto a peaceful civilian population. And he defends essentially the “naturalness” of this outcome as if any other oppressed group actually behaves this way.
@occupyislam16576 ай бұрын
@@rasmushastbacka5884Hamas raping and torturing.
@billyv22109 ай бұрын
I'm starting to think Norman is personally bringing about a moment for Israel akin to the falling of the Berlin wall for the USSR. Keep up the good work professor.
@insaftebaibi57809 ай бұрын
I wish he was sent as a negotiator for peace btn Plstn and Isrl; that he gets a Nobel Price for it and remains in the Pantheon of great useful human amongst Mandela, Ghandi, MLK, Malcolm X etc. truly humanity useful work, life and thoughts 💭🫒🇵🇸🕊️🍉🤍🤲🏼☝🏼 uh I wish him recognition from Isrl to vindicate him ...
@SunVirtuous-vs8rw9 ай бұрын
Norm Fink is a fool!
@whatdafook18649 ай бұрын
@@SunVirtuous-vs8rw Look at the comments. you the only fool here. braindead like your elders.
@Marc-anthony-t3n9 ай бұрын
@@SunVirtuous-vs8rw You're a c u n t.
@insidiousmischka9 ай бұрын
He's one of many that joined forces to combat this horrific injustice. So grateful to him for his amazing patience to do interviews like this ... just think of how many times he got the questions Elie asked? And how amazing he didn't turn the computer off as soon as Eli asked him whether he condemns Hmas! I probably would have ... at this point it's almost disrespectful ...
@lunadisole18769 ай бұрын
Norman Finkelstein, a man after my own heart 💕 stay safe and live long. The world needs you; all your work has not been in vain. Be glad that you didn’t get tenure, it might have “spoiled “ you. Your parents and grandparents would be proud! As a fellow human being, I’m proud of you.
@DanneBrogen39 ай бұрын
His parents and grandparents are probably spinning in their graves faster than particles in Cern!
@antimediaman93549 ай бұрын
Inflammatory rhetoric and a one-sided approach to complex issues. This is all he's about.
@aksaleskikaya69539 ай бұрын
@@antimediaman9354
@lisao69289 ай бұрын
@@DanneBrogen3Ok, Israel troll
@lisao69289 ай бұрын
@@antimediaman9354ok, Israel troll
@omid9819 ай бұрын
Thank you young man for seeking and bringing truth to light. Educating oneself is the key to solving life's problems. The old way of following leaders blindly is absolutely unacceptable.
@Samuel-y1b9h8 ай бұрын
Absolutely. IF people used their brains instead of being sheep and allowing themselves to be controlled (including mind control) the world would be a much better place. Even Hitler himself once said "lucky for the leader that men don't think", or something close to that meaning. This applies to populations as a whole but specifically to soldiers who blindly just follow orders like stupid dogs.
@QueenYak8 ай бұрын
All the boy did throughout this interview was listen to NF, push in milquetoast fashion against some of the simpler points that NF was making, and then at the end, say that he does not agree with some of NF's positions, thank you for coming. He's weak. He does take a stand and defend it whatsoever. Long way to go, young man.
@tataritka9 ай бұрын
It is really good interview. Thank you for inviting prof Finkelstein. Than you for letting us listen everything without interrupting as many interviews did before.
@fightignorance35989 ай бұрын
I totally agree with Frank that we have to distinguish a legal judgment from a moral judgement regarding the Oct 7 atrocities. He was the first one I came across to have made such a distinction which makes perfect sense for me.
@Momus20249 ай бұрын
its not that simple...and just what is your point?.....should people dying under Apartheid rule not get justification for fighting back to insure their liberty?
@DevonRyeTheDragonfly9 ай бұрын
The man is a psychopath, if you fact check literally anything he says, you’ll find that either he’s not as smart as he believes or he’s a compulsive liar
@fitamh40549 ай бұрын
I tear up listening to Dr. Finkelstein … please don’t ever stop telling the truth no matter how much it hurts
@locobass9 ай бұрын
hahahhahaha
@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU9 ай бұрын
Auatrian painter was telling it and people to this day can't get over that pain lol, this won't be any different.
@lirongolan49759 ай бұрын
"Please don't ever stop telling the *truth" *unless the truth starts hurting the arab narrative and for as long as it hurts the jews.
Intresting and educating conversation that does not include a screaming match or ad hominem attacks as it should be.
@mrjoemiles9 ай бұрын
Starting with that question is so corny at this point. You know your guest and you know how many times he’s been asked that. Step your game up.
@snuffcarl9 ай бұрын
I dont even understand why this question became so mandatory?
@lunadisole18769 ай бұрын
@@snuffcarlfor purposes of zionist propaganda.
@gnlout74039 ай бұрын
why is it' corny'?
@gnlout74039 ай бұрын
@@snuffcarl because hamas came to power upon a platform that called for the actual extermination of the jewish people via a 1400 year old religious text.
@AP-op4rc9 ай бұрын
@@snuffcarl It’s a qualifier used to discredit the rest of someone’s argument if they don’t answer it to the satisfaction of the one posing the question. That’s literally the only point.
@brendafenda66949 ай бұрын
Thank you Eli. You are a most respectful interviewer, which is sadly, very rare these days.
@acc44659 ай бұрын
Means no pushback against a known liar / piece of garbage.
@colourconscious9 ай бұрын
totally agree
@markj76129 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@liuj889 ай бұрын
Not the most respectful. The interviewer interrupted the guest several times. Moreover, his first question as well as his final remark were banal and lacking in substance.
@bluecoloredlines9 ай бұрын
He’s mediocre at best and just recycling propaganda especially in the beginning.
@adamali61999 ай бұрын
Thank you Eli for bringing Dr Finkelstein and for being a great listener and a professional interviewer unlike many others mainly in the British media who would shout and interrupt the guests. Great job all the best for your future endeavors.
@sea29599 ай бұрын
Eli was silent for decades....and like a mummy out of a catacomb suddenly rises ' Do you condemn Hamas ". Disgusting
@rinatrax9 ай бұрын
Finkelstein is a legend
@dansawicki49829 ай бұрын
At being a terrorist apologist and sympathizer
@BT-nl4yg9 ай бұрын
Sociopath
@ethanfleckenstein23349 ай бұрын
a legend in his own mind, yes.
@asizafineart3919 ай бұрын
Dr. Finkelstein truly is, I have so much respect and admiration for this man.
@alfagtv91649 ай бұрын
Still a legend and his words will be looked at in the future as judgement of Israel will eventually happen . The world looks at Israel as the new Germany after ww2 and Netanyahu the modern hitter . They have lost all credibility and no more can the talk about genocide as when they have the power they do the same things.
@TheHedgehogsDelimma9 ай бұрын
Much respect to Mr. Finkelstein for rejecting to be on a platform hosted by that vacuous charlatan Destiny. The fact you chimed in and offered to moderate it was quite telling, as a motivation surely propelled by views and clicks quite obviously. While I give you credit for conducting the interview in a reasonable and mild manner, I question the intent of trying to bring that weasel into a discussion with Norman.
@phasis9 ай бұрын
What a fabulous interview! An oasis of sanity during these impossible times.
@d.tr61768 ай бұрын
Sanity? Fink?
@ZornaHussain9 ай бұрын
As the grandfather held his murdered granddaughter in Gaza and said, 'soul of my 'soul ,Norman you have no idea of how many Palestinians souls you have touched with your relentless humanity towards them. I pray that you are in good health always
@Momus20249 ай бұрын
Professor Finkelstein is one of a kind.....a man who has lived his entire life in public view and never compromised his integrity...
@suzankhoshnevisriahi8249 ай бұрын
Thank you Prof. Finklestein. Please continue teaching the truth to the public, I have known you for many years and have had a great admiration for you. Wish there were more people like you.
@Helmy679 ай бұрын
Prof. Norman Finkelstein is a legend 👍
@canalphi26739 ай бұрын
a legend of r4p3 dening
@joesabet20019 ай бұрын
@@canalphi2673prove it
@iLanFrid9 ай бұрын
A legendary Putz.
@ehabl88169 ай бұрын
Norman Finkelstein what a legend
@zarbins9 ай бұрын
Yes his false equivalences, lies of omission, ad hominin attacks, emotional appeals certainly put him in that category.
@ehabl88169 ай бұрын
@@zarbins did you rewatch a part of a Destiny video to type this comment? Come back when your fascist god get on time to debate Norman, no time for unsure racist cucked husbands around here.
@handikappad9 ай бұрын
@@zarbins Gonna cry?
@zarbins9 ай бұрын
@@handikappad Nah, i'm good. He's a smart guy and I enjoy listening to him, but he still paints a particular narrative and doesn't address numerous issues. He's often emotional as well and tends to lash out.
@paulinoelsanchez9 ай бұрын
@@zarbinsThat’s the most magnanimous response to “Gonna cry?” I’ve ever seen
@effingjoy49 ай бұрын
I love you, Norman Finkelstein.
@benb65279 ай бұрын
This guy basically says, “All hamas did was open the gates and let in thousands of boys to kill all the men and children, and rape western-looking women as the final act of their pathetic lives.” Grim!
@Jobsgalore9 ай бұрын
Eli- I am happy to see him neutral and offering great questions and insights. Thank you Eli and Norm for this interview.
@cfdtumi97659 ай бұрын
"Neutral"...? 😂
@MerceDES-q1s9 ай бұрын
he is not neutral he just did not talk a lot. However, whenever he does, it is blatant obvious he is a pretty biast individual.
@MrNeaguy9 ай бұрын
The brilliance of the premier authority on this topic is shown again. Thank you, Professor Finkelstein.
@imperiald38649 ай бұрын
lol. The premier authority of which S.S. unit exactly?
@christopherconstance29719 ай бұрын
Everything he says is garbage. Lies or misleads through his teeth. Despicable human.
@Knotyoma9 ай бұрын
@@imperiald3864 You’re thinking the IDF 😂🤡
@imperiald38649 ай бұрын
@@Knotyoma doesn't really work. rethink the joke and try again.
@jamesryan43259 ай бұрын
@@imperiald3864 No, it does work. IDF may as well be = SS after what the world has seen.
@peterkolymbis80199 ай бұрын
Another brialliant interview with the great Prof Finklestein
@SunVirtuous-vs8rw9 ай бұрын
Fink is a fool, everybody hates fink!
@JM-yn8mb9 ай бұрын
Where is he a prof at?
@johnlyons22579 ай бұрын
Norman Finklestein is a legend but Eli conducted this interview in a respectful and intelligent way where I could not tell if he agreed or disagreed with the professors positions. Well done Eli on conducting such a professional conversation, you have earned a subscriber.
@SabracadabrO9 ай бұрын
He’s been discredited since his Turkish Terror cruise buddies inept whitewash report,to international condemnation,only to lurch back,creaming himself over Hamas atrocities,kA cHinGrifter Tanky..🇻🇳 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 🟩⬜⬜🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 🟩⬜⬜⬜🟩🟩🟩🟩 ⬜⬛⬛⬜⬜⬛⬛🟩 ⬜⬜⬛⬜⬜⬛⬜⬜ 🟥⬜⬜🏾🏾⬜⬜🟥 ⬜🟥⬜⬜⬜⬜🟥⬜ ⬜⬜🟥🟥🟥🟥⬜⬜ JokerStein٩🤡۶
@markj76129 ай бұрын
Agreed, and well said.
@bobbylongwitz60539 ай бұрын
this is a very intelligent young man. keep up the good work and stay true to yourself. i think it's not easy being a jew at this moment.
@herbanista51029 ай бұрын
@@bobbylongwitz6053Nor should it be. CEASEFIRE and humanitarian aid now!
@SabracadabrO9 ай бұрын
@user-mh7zo3ct8k Because no amount of evidence will persuade an idiot,& a well coordinated campaign to prop up & shout down any criticism of Finklestilstskine’s inept,dishonest & obviously biased terrorist apologetics,he’s all highly emotive rhetoric filled with false equivalence,strawmen,waddabowdis n dat,shocking denials of the 7/10 massacres by his homeys Hamaslaughter,he’s the worst kind of propagandist,extreme authoritarian tanky playing the noble scholar who’s identity politics,virtue signalling & moral indignation fills the trifecta of insane ideological grifters,while getting a pass for the outrageous statements in this interview alone,he lied about the Destiny circumstances,disgusting person,as bad as Owen Jones & Mohammed Hijab..
@abdullahmahdi31589 ай бұрын
You are such a pro interviewer Eli, unlike many who would interrupt for fun whenever the other guy say something not so agreeable. We may have things where we have different views, but you have been a top class interviewer and moderator, that is something no one can take away from you. ❤
@liuj889 ай бұрын
I beg to disagree. This interviewer interrupted the guest. Perhaps not for "fun", but apparently under the mistaken (and disrespectful) assumption that the guest has veered off topic. He also said at the final moment, something to the effect of, "I don't agree with everything you said, but this is what discussion is about." This is not only condescending and pretentious, it is cringy and unprofessional. Let the interview's substance speak for itself. No intelligent person expects the interviewer to agree 100% with the interviewee. Just please ask your questions and thank the guest for his time. And speaking of asking questions, the first question was as banal as it was unintelligent and unprofessional.
@bluecoloredlines9 ай бұрын
He’s a mediocre self absorbed kid who’s discussing with an intellectual person who’s way out of his league in all the possible ways 😂 we all know how he got this way so young.
@xalivt9 ай бұрын
thank you Eli for being unbiased and fair with my idol Norman .. i sympathize so much with palestinians in this ge/no\cide ..
@DevonRyeTheDragonfly9 ай бұрын
If Finkelstein is your idol you’re either psychotic or idiotic. Everything the guy says is pretty much the polar opposite of what’s actually true. Fact check him.
@fightignorance35989 ай бұрын
Why doesn’t the White House think like this gentleman does ? what would you expect the Palestinians do having lived with no dignity and no safety in the open prison for decades under Israel’s occupation ?
@jeanhartely9 ай бұрын
The White House/US government is thinking about munitions profits, spy and weapons technology developed by Israel using the Palestinians as guinea pigs, and gas mined from the waters around Gaza. Joe Biden may have a personal affection for Israel, but these decisions are strictly political/financial.
@Markadown9 ай бұрын
Lie down and die or pack up and walk into the sea. Decades of Israel's actions from the very start of the cleansing in 1947 (yes, I got that year right), they simply don't want any Arabs to exist there. We know that any action from peaceful protests to violent attacks will be and has been labeled as terrorism. (No one should ever attack civilians.) However, those same actions Israel commits are not. Benefits for being a friend of the West. The White House, since the 60s, has made the determination that they benefit from their relationship with Israel, which is-if we are being honest-European. What benefit would they get from Palestinians or Arabs? We already know what our government thinks of Arab countries from our continued actions to gain access to their resources. (They think the same about Latin countries, hence our actions there.) To quote Joe Biden from decades ago: "If Israel didn't exist, we would have to create an Israel."
@acc44659 ай бұрын
Like a sociopath?
@lisao69289 ай бұрын
@@acc4465yes. Sociopaths are made that way through their environment
@oz41R9 ай бұрын
Because it’s not big business friendly; it’s a moral standpoint
@NF-ru8on9 ай бұрын
Im glad Dr Finklestein unequivocally dismissed the offer to participate in a "debate" with some half-baked internet ideologue who calls himself 'Destiny'.
@shokosugi23467 ай бұрын
Why does his name matter at all?
@mdiciaccio876 ай бұрын
You mean Mr Vermicelli?
@aniadz19 ай бұрын
❤️❤️ Dr Finkelstein.
@hglavina9089 ай бұрын
Wouldn't you know, the first question had to be the perverse "Do you condemn Hamas?!" That question should be ignored henceforth, given the evidence coming out that the Occupation Forces committed most of the killings on October 7, and that there is no evidence for beheadings or rapes. In any case, the "atrocities" of October 7 pale into insignificance against the horrific background of 75 years of violent occupation and genocide. We wouldn't today have a bad word to say about the Resistance in WW2.
@michaeljames84109 ай бұрын
This is truly a deluded comment. Palestinian statehood has been in Palestinian hands for most of that 75 years, and they have chosen war. For some bizarre reason, people want them to KEEP fighting, refuse statehood and peace, and somehow that is 'support' for the Palestinians. You are seriously comparing this war to WW2? and the side you chose to compare to the Nazi's was not the side trying to eradicate the Jews? You are out of your mind.
@lightbeings62439 ай бұрын
Lol...the qyestion itself is wrong
@aamnahere62509 ай бұрын
@@michaeljames8410 Yeah, anyone who criticizes Israel is either an antisemite or deluded because Israel is lily white and never responsible for any of its crimes. When the PLO accepted the two state solution, it was Israel that refused. In fact, Netanyahu boasted about destroying the possibility of a two state solution but sure, it's always those 'extremist' Arabs who are not in favour of peace, never Israel that actively refused Palestinian statehood by building settlements in the West Bank which was supposed to be part of the Palestinian state. I mean the Arab League officially announced that it would fully recognize Israel if it allowed the formation of a Palestinian state but it's those Arabs who're always the extremists, not Israel. It's never the Israelis who were responsible for assassinating both Rabin and Arafat. As for World War 2, why is that event put on a unique pedestal where no other crime can be compared to it? Why are the Israelis allowed to compare everyone to Nazis (while actually being buddies with Eastern European Nazis) but Palestinians are not allowed to compare a concentration camp that is being relentlessly bombed and starved to the Holocaust? So 12,000 Palestinian kids and 22,000 Palestinian civilians killed by Israel isn't terrible enough to be made a comparison? You have to look for such intellectually dishonest semantics to hide the criminality of your beloved apartheid state.
@hglavina9089 ай бұрын
@@michaeljames8410 So easy to spot the Hasbara trolls. Anyone with a heart, anyone who is not a sociopath, anyone who is not a totally delusional brainwashed Zionist--or an arms manufacturer--today supports Gaza and #FreePalestine.
@nightflight41919 ай бұрын
You do not seriously want to say that the IDF killed their own people. Are you crazy. Wake up or shut up
@SaraSara-ti6ex9 ай бұрын
Norman, so eloquent, informative, and knowledgeable
@DevonRyeTheDragonfly9 ай бұрын
Fact check him. Every statement uttered by the guy is a lie. Assume the opposite of what he says is true and you’re much closer to reality. Seriously, fact check him.
@ehabl88169 ай бұрын
gave us some@@DevonRyeTheDragonfly
@MadLadsAnonymous9 ай бұрын
@@DevonRyeTheDragonflyGive us a fact-check, brosef. He's more knowledgeable on this matter than any Zionist sociopath in Israel or abroad.
@dogsbestfriend89889 ай бұрын
BS @@DevonRyeTheDragonfly
@thecamil109 ай бұрын
@@dogsbestfriend8988he is definitely biased and don’t tell me is BS because I have checked.
@ThatMemoryIsAlive9 ай бұрын
43:10 Professor Finkelstein explains how piers morgan avoided answering the unanswerable question, and therefore should have given in... Eli proceeds to do the same... 🤡
@arthurcainii9 ай бұрын
I was hoping Norm would press him for his answer, but the lack of an answer says more
@thetruthhurts66529 ай бұрын
You could see the disappointment in Norm’s face when he went on to another question.
@gregoryedwards90978 ай бұрын
Yeah, that slow blink and swallow told it all. Pretty disappointing. The West truly is the bourgeois.
@peterm34789 ай бұрын
Norman Finkelstein, A Great Teacher and a Great Man. Thank you so much sir.
@joecasey74159 ай бұрын
Whether you think the Palestinians are under occupation or not? Did Eli really say that? Glad Norm addressed that
@a-sf6nc9 ай бұрын
They were offered many times to rule themselves. When they were handed gaza Then they voted hamas and instead of investing in life itself. They shot rockets to Israel from the moment they could and built rockets from there water pipes. Israel is mostly a dessert - not much water - did Israel blame others for its problems? No! They invented ways to overcome dessert difficulties. Palastinens should have done the same. They choose war and to call there children and grandchildren refugees even though they were born in gaza. No other refugees in the world do that!
@AP-op4rc9 ай бұрын
@@a-sf6nc This is absurdly ignorant to say.
@ceceroxy22279 ай бұрын
Seems like what he said was true
@DanneBrogen39 ай бұрын
@@AP-op4rc Agree wholeheartedly with you! Who the hell wants to hear the absurd real truth!
@AP-op4rc9 ай бұрын
@@DanneBrogen3 No, this is delusional thinking. Maybe you think it’s cute or funny, but it’s neither. It’s dangerous as hell and there is a real human cost to your callous ignorance. Support what you want, but it’s blatantly obvious that you’re wrong at this point.
@peterhardie41519 ай бұрын
Interview conducted with class. More of this please.
@Welcome2TheInternet9 ай бұрын
class? he started with the most hackneyed unoriginal and meaningless question ever. zero class.
@liuj889 ай бұрын
The guest certainly conducted himself with class. The interviewer interrupted the guest several times during the interview, when he surely knew that the professor needs time to answer questions in great detail and with enough context. But yes, I agree--more interviews with the esteemed Norman Finkelstein, please.
@holycannoli649 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you @@Welcome2TheInternet
@aquari_23449 ай бұрын
Norm's broader point is so powerful. Finding someone to blame and actually stopping the fighting are two different end-goals. Anything can be justified by claiming it is in retaliation, the important consideration is WHO actually holds the power to disrupt the conflict. The slave masters were the only ones who could prevent slave revolts, even if they did not perpetrate them. Freedmen dont attempt slave revolts, its that simple.
@FalkoJ899 ай бұрын
Viking raids, chevauchée, razzias... have been atrocities committed by freemen. There is such a thing as violent cultures. It's also more than just a retaliation, what a strawman. WHO actually holds the power to disrupt the conflict? Yeah, who does?! Are you suggesting Israelis love living with this constant tension? I can confidently say they enjoy being at peace with Egypt today. Why is Israel living at peace with Egypt, how did it happen?
@omarfadil12269 ай бұрын
! Are you suggesting Israelis love living with this constant tension? Yes, yes and yes…especially when it comes to land ownership of Palestine. Here is an excerpt of what the original founders of the state thought of the idea itself, in case you weren’t aware or chose not to be : “The iron law of every colonising movement, a law which knows of no exceptions, a law which existed at all times and under all circumstances. If you wish to colonise a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else give up your colonisation, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempts to destroy or prevent this colonisation, colonisation is impossible, not “difficult “, not “dangerous “ but IMPOSSIBLE! Zionism is a colonising adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed forces. The Iron Law, Vladimir Jabotinsky (1880-1940) Founder of the Irgun, a pro colonial terrorist group. Mentored and inspired countless Israeli leaders.
@FalkoJ899 ай бұрын
@@omarfadil1226 Do I need to ignore this fact for your dogmatic view to crumble? Yeah, this is factual, so what? I have no idea how you came to believe this is relevant. You should realize zionism isn't monolithic. Ben-Gurion and the Labor Zionists had more influence, yet you're mentioning a para-military group. Forcibly, by definition, not mainstream... Why not hold onto the Sinai then?
@aquari_23449 ай бұрын
@@FalkoJ89 Thats funny, you dont see many scandinavians going on viking raids anymore. Maybe it had something to do with feudalism rather than their 'violent' culture... Also, Israel is at peace with egypt because they are not occupying the country.
@FalkoJ899 ай бұрын
@@omarfadil1226 A para-military is by definition not mainstream.
@teengrogu51779 ай бұрын
I praise Mr. Hassell ability to conduct this interview in an unbiased manner and professional way
@michaelidarecis9 ай бұрын
Once he started with "do you condemn Hamas" and starting at October 7th it was Straight up biased...
@AP-op4rc9 ай бұрын
@@michaelidarecis That’s true. But I respect the dude for at least allowing him to speak, and appearing to genuinely listen. I find most people still in support of Israel to be aggressively radical, a lot of the time. So at least he isn’t putting more of that out there. I can’t argue with what you said though.
@naturalaquatreasures9 ай бұрын
@@AP-op4rc "Allowing" him to speak? It's Norman who brings the audience in this interview on this tiny channel.
@AP-op4rc9 ай бұрын
@@naturalaquatreasures Well ofc that’s true. What I meant by allowing, was just not being rude and belligerent.
@ShloimyZaltzman9 ай бұрын
@@naturalaquatreasures I see your having a hard time with Eli picking up speed. More a reflection on you then him. I saw all your other comments.
@Kontraleah9 ай бұрын
Eli says, “But this doesn’t help their goal at all.” What do you mean? The entire world became resistance fighters right along with them. People like me, a white single-mom in the midwest (US) cannot look away and is pressuring my government everyday to stop this. It changed everything for the Palestinian people.
@michaeljames84109 ай бұрын
Well congratulations, your ignorance, and the ignorance from people like you around the world, encouraging the 'resistance' is what has been getting Palestinians killed for the past 50+ years. You are not supporting peace, you are supporting never-ending war, and a war that the Palestians will never win (unless they and their allies somehow destroy Israel, which I hope you realise would be one of the most devastating wars ever, if it somehow happened); therefore you are supporting neverending Palestinian suffering.
@garethlewis19849 ай бұрын
"Resistance fighters" Oh, do shut up.
@boebsiebyarada99649 ай бұрын
@@garethlewis1984you can be both terrorist and resistance fighter. Actually it's often intertwined, that's the whole point Finkelstein is making. Just like you could argue Israel is a democratic state which could also be seen as a terrorist state. An organisation can be multiple labels. Palestine is one of the most poor and controlled places in the world and officially they aren't even a state and are not allowed to arm themselves. Hence it's one of the reasons you have tunnels to smuggle weapons. What do you expect they are going to fight in uniform face to face with one of the most advanced armies in the world? They would lose that battle in a heartbeat. The reason they also attack and kidnap civilians which is terrible no doubt about it is because it's one of the few things they can do to give themselves some sort of power and make demands. It's silly to just only look at the horrific crimes Hamas did on the 7th and not look at the circumstances these people are living in and what they have to endure under terrorism of the Israeli state. There is an obvious difference in power you just can't overlook, which also determine what kind of violence is being used. It's not an excuse, just an explanation. So I think it's fair to say Hamas is a terrorist radical organisation which they obviously are, but you could also argue it's and organisation of resistance, which they also obviously are. Like Finkelstein says 'what are they supposed to do?' It's quite clear that in a conflict those in power, especially if there is such a huge difference in power have the biggest responsibility to stop a conflict. They have the luxury to reason and give meaning to there thoughts, where those oppressed haven't.
@humble80019 ай бұрын
Prof. F N ! You always aww me with your great points ! May you live many many more years to educate us !! Thank you for all the hard work you do to make wrong right ❤
@mattg37899 ай бұрын
His points are not great, but pro-Pals are so unquestioning that they will believe anything Fink utters. For example, look at Fink's reason for claiming that Gaza is "indisputably" a concentration camp: Israel's Security head once made a hyperbolic statement using the term. Please ask yourself: How many concentration camps have luxury hotels, their own government and police, hospitals and cars and taxis and shopping malls and paid jobs and welfare benefits? Gaza has all of these. Fink compares 10/7/23 to Nat Turner and the slave rebellion - as if slaves and Palestinians have been treated the same. Really? Great Points?
@Bmarr339 ай бұрын
Norm is a gift to this planet. I wish I could meet him and express my gratitude in person.
@antimediaman93549 ай бұрын
Inflammatory rhetoric and a one-sided approach to complex issues is all he's about.
@Kontraleah9 ай бұрын
Me too. Me too. Could you even imagine how proud his parents would be?
@kedrick939 ай бұрын
He is a *grift to his planet
@marabara78639 ай бұрын
@antimediaman9354 will this is what we hear on a daily basis ! Do you think your government or your mainstream media give a different point of view ? Or show what is going on on the other side ? Naah, I don't think so. Americans are one of the easy people to manipulate ! You just sell them lies, and they buy it.
@JensPeterLiljegren9 ай бұрын
@@antimediaman9354 Fact based rhetoric. Source based rhetoric. Reason based rhetoric. Ad hominem-free rhetoric. Unbiased rhetoric.
@ra776459 ай бұрын
Thank you, Dr. Finkelstein. We, Palestinians, see you and admire you.
@Mira-uy5xh9 ай бұрын
👌👍🤝
@nightflight41919 ай бұрын
Of course you do
@mozartsbumbumsrus77509 ай бұрын
@@nightflight4191ALL right thinking people do!
@mysticmac55559 ай бұрын
Eli love the fact that you’re bringing opposing voices on. Finkelstein is a legend.
@canalphi26739 ай бұрын
r4p3 denier
@HanningtonGoldin9 ай бұрын
🙏🏽 Mr. Finkelstein ❤ Honest, courageous, decent, brave, you are highly appreciated ❣️
@roxananazar23799 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr Finkelstein for your integrity, humanity, and knowledge. It's a real history lesson to listen to you, without prejudice or partial view, you go straight to the FACTS.
@Pasture_Prime9 ай бұрын
yup he a total rasha
@SM-dk8cs9 ай бұрын
What’s a rasha?
@michaeljames84109 ай бұрын
It's fine that you like him, but you should know that the reasons you like him are more to do with his perspective and world view, rather than beacuse he uses facts. Anyone can use facts, and there are hundreds of speakers with comparable and supeior knowledge to Finkelstein; so that doesn't make him special. Honestly, he comes across as hyperbolic.
@Galaxy01069 ай бұрын
1- Prof. Norm. IS fantastic as always 👑 2- the interviewer got approx. an hours worth of education for free (not that anything appears to have gone in) 3- Your followers got a free lesson 4- It’s apparent you’ve invited him for cloud/likes and views. (Your attempt for round 2 failed) Good luck in your journey and may god show you the right path.
@Claudia-jk5km9 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥Also, the title... Vs???
@cwh59 ай бұрын
It's courageous for for you Eli to bring on voices like Norman Finkelstein. Other suggestions are Daniel Levy, Lee Camp, Ilan Pappe, Noam Chomsky, Avi Shlaim and Glen Greenwald
@OldTeaMate9 ай бұрын
Miko Peled, Eran Efrati, Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro, Gideon Levy …
@circumscris9 ай бұрын
I think Noam is dieing. No sign of him since the Hamas atack...he is 95 after all😢😢
@avaloneckert12579 ай бұрын
"She's an airhead" love how he doesn't mince words
@bluesky72889 ай бұрын
Whose the she?
@glbale9 ай бұрын
@@bluesky7288Nikki Haley.
@syafiqsya4659 ай бұрын
As he said himself " im pro the truth". Thanks prof norman.
@ChristinaGerlach9 ай бұрын
Compassion breeds integrity. Thank you to both of you.
@lunadisole18769 ай бұрын
Be patient, dear Palestinians! This time things will change for the better soon. The heart of the universe hears and sees you. You will be free!❤❤❤
@mohammadal-ali2289 ай бұрын
They r free. We not
@margaretgrebowiec55859 ай бұрын
Thank you for saying that, I count seconds during which I eat and sleep with the feeling of guilt. The time will come and soon.
@willieduffie49679 ай бұрын
Yes indeed 👍
@mrmr24889 ай бұрын
It won’t lol. That’s very romantic and sweet to say, like something you would see in a Hollywood movie. Ain’t no one coming to save the Palestinians. If you haven’t noticed, the elite don’t give a crap what we or anyone else have to say.
@taiwannin18959 ай бұрын
Most respect to professor Finkelstein, He’s honest, knowledgeable and has a beautiful heart ,
@acc44659 ай бұрын
You’re a sociopath too?
@AntonioBarsanio9 ай бұрын
Honest? He calls that a genocide. Please refer him to the Rwanda genocide.
@hglavina9089 ай бұрын
Are you hosting a genocide Olympics, now? Israel is murdering children at an even faster rate than the Nazis. Does that mean the Holocaust was not a genocide? What a stupid, specious argument.
@theliamofella9 ай бұрын
@@AntonioBarsaniorawanda was a genocide and Gaza is a genocide, one genocide dosnt take away the status of the term from another
@AntonioBarsanio9 ай бұрын
@@theliamofella No, this is no genocide because Israel retaliated against the Attacks on October. Rwanda is a totally different story. If Israel was commiting genocide there would be no Palestinian left alive today!
@LoveAllAnimals1019 ай бұрын
Side note. This is not a war.
@benb65279 ай бұрын
This dude says Gaza is occupied? Israel left in 2005.
@LoveAllAnimals1019 ай бұрын
@@benb6527 Absolute BS. Isreal never "left".
@benb65278 ай бұрын
@@LoveAllAnimals101 Israel absolutely fully disengaged. There were no Jews left in Gaza. Stop lying about Jewish history.
@LoveAllAnimals1018 ай бұрын
@@benb6527 Canaanite history. Gaza is an occupied territory because Israel has full control of its borders, airspace and territorial waters despite having formally withdrawn its forces and settlers from the enclave in 2005. Larger open air prison.
@KLEIDMANN8 ай бұрын
@@benb6527 ''israel left'' while controlling 6 out of 7 borders. controlling water, electricity, internet and food supply of gaza. controlling the air and sea of gaza. Banning and controlling which food exactly goes into gaza. stop calling it jewish history. its zionism history and you are the one who is spreading misinformation by saying that.
@trompel19 ай бұрын
Norman Finkelstein is my greatest example of being a Fair Witness and living the "FOUR AGREEMENTS".....the world is so lucky to have Him and people like Abby Martin..Miko Peled..llan Pappe...Krystal Ball...and others whose integrity gives them strength to speak truth to power...
@bouchtaab82819 ай бұрын
Don't forget the amazing Noam Chomsky (:
@eoinfitzpatrick11859 ай бұрын
Also if you haven't looked up Gabor Mate, Noom Chomsky, Chris Hedges, Max Blumenthal they're great resources of information surrounding Israel, West Bank Gaza
@bouchtaab82819 ай бұрын
@@eoinfitzpatrick1185 Abby Martin with her amazing documentary titled "Gaza Fights for Freedom"
@eoinfitzpatrick11859 ай бұрын
@@bouchtaab8281 thankyou I will check it out.
@OldTeaMate9 ай бұрын
Sut Jhally has been censored out of public existance. I can't even mention the title of his documantary, lest my comment gets erased by youtube censorship. *Shame on the yt adm for fightning enlightenment and justice. Shame on every single individual, who participates in the oppression of truthful and substantiated information!*
@p.c.3369 ай бұрын
As a Muslim, I am deeply impressed by Professor Finkelstein's fair and just approach. His ability to speak the truth, especially as a son of Holocaust survivors, shows he is a very brave man. I sincerely hope he is honored in both this life and the hereafter. On the other hand, any atrocities committed by anyone, at any point in time, will undoubtedly face divine justice. There are no double standards in this regard, whether one claims to be a devout Muslim or Jew or whatever...
@TheMannCrux9 ай бұрын
"He is an extraordinary and truly brave man, regardless of his origins." What's the issue with his "origins" precisely?
@p.c.3369 ай бұрын
@@TheMannCrux No issues with his origins of course! I mean, being a son of holocaust survivor parents, his courage makes more sense to me.
@fatality1539 ай бұрын
I recommend you edit your comment to word it better, what one would think reading " he is good, regardless of his origin" is different than saying " he didn't let his holocaust background blind him from the truth of what Gaza is enduring "
@p.c.3369 ай бұрын
@@fatality153 I see your and @TheMannCrux' point now, and I corrected it. With a little bit artificial linguistic aid 🙂
@NannyMAU9 ай бұрын
Condemning HAMAS is like condemning Warsaw Uprising or The French Resistance in WW2
@claudenobles7799 ай бұрын
Finkelstein seems honorable and should be listened too.
@DanneBrogen39 ай бұрын
An honest man does not spread wrapped up lies!
@claudenobles7799 ай бұрын
"wrapped up" define this sir@@DanneBrogen3
@DanneBrogen39 ай бұрын
@@claudenobles779 A good example of that is when Finkelstein is asked if he condemns the massacre on 7 October! Instead of answering yes or no, as a normal person does, he gives a defense speech for the perpetrators of the massacre in 2 minutes and 20 seconds which can make those listening lose focus on the question asked! Listen to his answer and you might see what I mean! There is a Swedish word for wrapped lies but cannot be translated!
@Canaanite489 ай бұрын
@@DanneBrogen3You know, life is more complex than the simple dichotomy of Yes or No! Moreover, history doesn't begin on the 7th of October!
@claudenobles7799 ай бұрын
I will review@@DanneBrogen3
@notyourbus9 ай бұрын
Yes I remember Perise Morgan.. in my opinion he did not want to answer, professor Norman I like your natural way of speaking, you are just sweet passionate human being!
@Infodawg20129 ай бұрын
Norman Finkelstein has taught me how to think about this complex problem concerning the Zionists and Palestinians, with logic and clarity, and I greatly appreciate it.
@Mmdhi9 ай бұрын
Prof Norm the greatest of all time 👑
@nightflight41919 ай бұрын
He is not. Not at all.
@jdsthird9 ай бұрын
Destiny and Professor Norman Finkelstein don’t belong in the same sentence. There is a difference when feeding the soul. You can either dine on a gourmet five star Michelin meal or fast food. The professor is good for the soul.
@Kontraleah9 ай бұрын
I’m 22 mins in and this is really good. Norman is the epitome of intelligence and integrity.
@acc44659 ай бұрын
You like what he’s saying - that’s all - the guy is a liar - nobody with a brain has an ounce of respect for him - he has a routine that’s not even very clever. He’s not intelligent. He’s a very jealous person angry person. These people are a dime a dozen.
@nightflight41919 ай бұрын
Omg
@SvendBosanvovski9 ай бұрын
Another excellent presentation, thank you Eli. Notwithstanding our natural repugnance for what occurred on 7 October, Professor Finkelstein encourages us to take a considered view, weigh all of the antecedent history before settling upon a firm, partisan position. That's a hard sell for Israelis on the receiving end. But reason should trump passion.
@OldTeaMate9 ай бұрын
Ad to that the testemony of Lieutenant Colonel Nof Erez and members of tank and helicopter squadons, who spoke out about army policy and their actions on the ground, plus surviving hostages Yasmin Porat, Hadas Dagan, Tuval Escapa et al.
@OldTeaMate9 ай бұрын
Nof Erez even talks about a "mass hannibal"-situation, refering to the hannibal-directive.
@bryanmurray98469 ай бұрын
Just want to echo what many have already said, Thank you for being you Norman!!
@barbaralawrence15459 ай бұрын
Dear Dear Norman ! Brilliant again ! Please sleep a tip better on thoughts we and we and we embrace you and again ! Your crushing caring….thank you t
@rypoelk9979 ай бұрын
Norman wants to elevate the discussion to a level the suffering people of Palestine deserve. I respect that. Destiny's debate with Richard Wolff exemplified how he lowers the discussion. Wolff was at a different level and had to get in the mud with some arrogant online personality who brought little to the conversation. I don't blame Norman for wanting a more qualified adversary and he has shown he is willing to engage in such a battle as seen with his skirmishes against Benny Morris, Alan Dershowitz, ect. This is the only time where I'll give Murray, Shapiro, Maher, Harris credit is that they're a bit at a higher level than Destiny. Problem is they lack the backbone and won't put their money where their mouth is in debating Finkelstein. They're stupid enough to espouse mindless propaganda but just smart enough to know they can't beat a real intellectual on substance.
@AznDudeIsOn9 ай бұрын
hm maybe but benny morris was willing to talk to destiny. shapiro is going to talk to destiny too.
@xerke9 ай бұрын
@@AznDudeIsOnBenny Morris’s caliber does not belong on Destiny. Benocide Shapiro, yeah he does.
@rypoelk9979 ай бұрын
@@AznDudeIsOn What's your point? Shapiro and Morris are talking with Destiny who shares their view? That's fundamentally different than a debate that would resemble the anti-intellectual sh*t circus on display when he debated against Richard Wolff and brought the conversation into the mud. Furthermore, Destiny had his chance with Finkelstein and didn't show up. The dude isn't obligated to entertain foolery more than once.
@1984isnotamanual9 ай бұрын
Richard Wolff literally wouldn’t define what socialism is in that debate. Like what are you talking about?
@Jean-rg4sp9 ай бұрын
*It is disappointing that the first question directed to Norman was "Do you condemn what Hamas have done on October 7th?" because it sets the tone of the interview and in all the mainstream western TV, this question is being used as a means of clarifying the credentials of the people being interviewed as being pro or anti-Hamas. Even interviewers like Eli Hassell who admit that they know this is not the beginning still start with this question. We do not know how many deaths were caused by Hamas on that day and I am surprised that Norman is so certain that Hamas is responsible for atrocities and maybe even war crimes before we have the facts, given that the Israelis have told so many lies regarding the number of deaths and by whom they were caused, omitting the actions of IDF tanks and helicopters. The question is meant to discover whose side the person being interviewed is on. The question should not be answered because it is too vague and it implies that Hamas is responsible for the deaths of all 764 civilians. Until there is an independent investigation, we do not have sufficient information regarding the meaning of this question.*
@c.kainoabugado79359 ай бұрын
Agree.
@mamadytraore57979 ай бұрын
Stop being so logical , you know Israeli colonizer and supporters don't like that. Why won't you just believe what the" chosen" said? You must be antisemitic.lol
@alvodin61979 ай бұрын
We know that Hamas was responsible for several crimes and atrocities.. no one disputes that, not even Hamas. There is no questions wether or not Hamas massacred and kidnapped people on October 7th, so very pointless argument. Obviously there is context and a long history of Palestinians being locked inside an open air prison, which every pro Palestinian supporters knows, including Norman. Basically you made a pointless long-winded argument, just to be oppositional.
@Jean-rg4sp9 ай бұрын
@@alvodin6197 Your long'winded reply missed the point that yours and Norman's certainty about what happened on 7th October is disputed increasingly by the public as Zionist lies get exposed.
@erwinsmith30019 ай бұрын
@@alvodin6197 the law that never one day protected the people of gaza are we now supposed to execute them by the same law? no you don't have any credit even to argue about it
@BorschtBlue9 ай бұрын
I could listen to Prof. Finkelstein all day and sometimes I do. I learn so much. He's honest and intelligent and speaks from a scholarly place.
@MariaNI-yf1bz9 ай бұрын
No occupation= No 7 amas. This is what people need to understand. Free Paleatine🇰🇼🇰🇼🇰🇼🇰🇼
@williame33339 ай бұрын
Free Kuwait
@MateoMPM9 ай бұрын
This just shows how uneducated you are That's the flag of KWAIT Wanna now a fact about Kuwait? They took 350.000 Palestinian refugees, they became 17% of the entire population When Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, the Palestinians actually SUPPORTED the invasion The American led coalition defeated the Iraqi army and set kuwait free The leadership of the country felt betrayed and decided to deport 350.000 Palestinians
@riccles83319 ай бұрын
lol - this is so far from the truth. none of the middle east wanted Israel as a jewish state in the neighbourhood - all of the middle east except Iran and her proxies now accept Israel. You're looking in the wrong direction. Neither Iran nor Hamas are doing the Palestinians any good whatsoever. This is not a justification for Israelis response to OCT 7 which is clearly beyond excessive.
@markeastlack41809 ай бұрын
It means Palstanians right to self determination, self governance, self respect and basic dignity. There is no excuse for what Israel is doing it's indefensible
@markeastlack41809 ай бұрын
There wouldn't be an HAMAS if Gaza was under a brutally oppressive occupation
@AleurRahman9 ай бұрын
Normal G. Finkelstein deserves a Nobel Peace Prize
@riverebec19 ай бұрын
Norman Finkelstein is a morally bankrupt apologist for a terrorist group he admits committed atrocities. How does that warrant a "Peace" prize...especially as it's clear he believes Israel deserved October 7th.
@akbarfarzin98579 ай бұрын
Nobel prize !! For whom is telling Truth???? You Must kidding me !!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@akbarfarzin98579 ай бұрын
His prize is !!! He is NOT in the jail !!!😂😂😂😂
@deborahbeaudoinzaki80199 ай бұрын
Dr. Norman Finkelstein is a true inspirational, forward thinking, man of extraordinary humanitarianism…. He will be remembered in the future, of a man who spoke of peace during times of savagery, apartheid and genocide toward Palestinians… 🩸☠️🩸☠️🩸☠️🩸☠️🩸☠️🩸☠️🩸☠️🩸☠️🩸 i pray humanity will rise out of evil 🙏🙏🙏
@tanihope9 ай бұрын
The host needs to research on West Bank including Christian how they are living with daily humiliation killing suffering torture taking separating children from families and keeping in confined cells and starve beating .. no end of it
@JasonMaaskant9 ай бұрын
This did help their cause. They embarrassed Israel and caused a overreaction that is bringing the world to defend the Palestinians.
@rasmushastbacka58849 ай бұрын
Gaza is beeing destroyed. Is that help?
@JasonMaaskant9 ай бұрын
@@rasmushastbacka5884 yes, it did help. It forced Israel to show it always intended to force the Palestinians out all along. Now the world really sees Israel for what it is.
@sm0na9 ай бұрын
@@rasmushastbacka5884 It was already being destroyed, in a way that was subtle enough for the world not to pay attention. Now, we are all paying attention.
@ZereayM9 ай бұрын
I love the great professor deeply, it seems like the interviewer is by default arguing from a position in line with those that are pro Israel and constantly throwing up thoughtless questions trying to pin Mr Finklestein as controversial
@ZereayM9 ай бұрын
I came back after finishing the remainder of the video, Eli clearly has a parasite controlling his behaviour and thoughts. Did I hear him call Claudine Gay the president of Hamas? What an awful interviewer
@MateoMPM9 ай бұрын
I think Norman Finkelstein is a very rational individual however it really made me question his views when he said that the second antifada was peaceful How can he say that.
@nightflight41919 ай бұрын
Good. Listen carefully you will find more things that are false
@yorammm9 ай бұрын
@@nightflight4191 help us, what else is false?
@Gizmo19818 ай бұрын
That’s right. I’ve seen him get interviewed and he constantly uses the same hyperbole. The cue that he’s intellectually dishonest is that he doesn’t really ever dive into why Gaza is a concentration camp, but rather he quotes someone who said it 20 years ago and then proceeds to repeat it ad nauseum.
@nightflight41918 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@boredom51329 ай бұрын
Actually laughed out loud when he said the intifada was non violent.
@hoomanostovar9 ай бұрын
The first intifada was initially non-violent.
@boredom51329 ай бұрын
@@hoomanostovar not really, the first intifada was initiated by violence and it seemed pretty consistent throughout.
@ShoebQ19 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter whether it was violent or not, it is a resistance movement against an occupying and oppressing force, which I assume you agree is not anti-semitism.
@boredom51329 ай бұрын
@@ShoebQ1 I mean, it does matter if Norm is going to claim that it wasn’t despite that being a lie. And yes, I agree, that’s not anti semitic, it’s kind of weird that you even asked.
@ShoebQ19 ай бұрын
@@boredom5132sorry I meant to say "genocide against Israel/Jews" as that is what Zionists were claiming when they wanted to ban pro Palestinian protests that were chanting "intifada"
@BlueGreenTea9 ай бұрын
Please support Prof Finkelstein by buying his books, he needs to be supported, his voice is vital in the fight for the humanity of Palestinians and their liberation.
@sandyunderpants43769 ай бұрын
I've never seen a guy do this many interviews in this short of time in my life, so I don't think he needs additional support aside from all the money he gets from hamas to spread their lies for them..
@BlueGreenTea9 ай бұрын
@@sandyunderpants4376 your username says it all about you really…broad statement that is essentially defamatory and libellous. Is that all you got in the face of receipts from a political scientist? Come on, show us at least one lie the professor told, let’s see what you got, or is it as we all suspect just a pile of the Zionist proverbial in your sandyunderpants.
@Maggie_19659 ай бұрын
Prof Norm Finkelstein ❤❤🙏
@eglahr9 ай бұрын
Norm is the man
@emilcioran74449 ай бұрын
I wish more debates were like this. How it should be.
@cwh59 ай бұрын
Norman Finkelstein 'spews' out facts that's so difficult to argue against! His attention to detail is amaziing
@berylackermann82409 ай бұрын
A Question. Would the JEWS in the German Ghettos or "concentration camp" if they escaped and killed Germans, be called terrorists and murders and held accountable or apauded.
@noragutberg9 ай бұрын
What a ridiculous comparison! Gaza is not a concentration camp. Jews who escaped - there weren’t many - did not target German women and children. It’s an insult to the Holocaust survivors
@christopherconstance29719 ай бұрын
The mental gymnastics by this guy is phenomenal. Says hamas might not have ordered the rape and beheadings it might of been the Palestinian civilians. That’s worse. Then it shows the region is in agreement with their actions
@blah3299 ай бұрын
No. He is simply saying it was not a part of their operations. Not an objective. He says there MAY have been a rogue individual which is not the same and bear in mind there is zero evidence that rape even happened. Israel can’t even find any victims of sexual assault as reported by Israeli media. There has been no forensic evidence. They couldn’t even be bothered to do rape kits. All they have is some DUBIOUS accounts by people that have changed their story several times. Those people were not legitimate witnesses. In their screening of their edited worst atrocities committed on the 7th, they couldn’t even show footage of any rapes. That was their own selection of the worst of the worst. Ask yourself, if you are going to use rape as a reason for collective punishment and mass murder, you need better evidence, irrefutable evidence. You need to be sure. In fact it should be treated in the same way the legal institutions would - with EVIDENCE. I do not believe rapes happened. And even if it did, I don’t recall that genocide of a whole group of people was the usual sentence for rape. There is NO justification for killing not one single innocent person.
@SaraSara-ti6ex9 ай бұрын
Knowledge is power. Thank you, Norman
@Jean-rg4sp9 ай бұрын
No.one is as informed about Palestine as Norman.
@LuvStyle9 ай бұрын
finkelstein is just one of the smartest guys ever.
@SunVirtuous-vs8rw9 ай бұрын
He’s about as smart as Hamas!
@dbritan9 ай бұрын
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@nightflight41919 ай бұрын
Oh my God. I am starting to worry about intelligence
@claudiamason.9 ай бұрын
If only mainstream media would feature Norman Finkelstein.
@SR_9_8 ай бұрын
It’s an insult to ask someone like Norman to debate destiny about this topic.
@AlR-ol9gh8 ай бұрын
It’s not. You would not like Norm if you knew his opinion of the religion of Islam. You only like him become he is anti-Israel
@mznxbcv123459 ай бұрын
On the 7th, there were no direct attacks on civilians, only collateral damage. Out of the 769 names on the Haaretz dataset, 462 were military personnel, including 55 soldiers, 13 privates, 59 corporals, 200 sergeants (45 of whom were sergeant majors), 48 commanders, 32 lieutenants, 5 lieutenant colonels, 6 colonels, 37 officers, 10 inspectors, 6 intendents, and 2 Lance Corp. This was a military defeat, and they are taking it out on the rest. Out of the 1148 total names, 403 were military personnel, 59 belonged to the police, and 668 were civilians. This means that the collateral damage on the 7th was lower than any of the iTf "mowing" operations, which has a ratio of 6:1. The ratio of civilians to military personnel killed on the 7th was 1.6:1, with 462 military personnel out of 1148 total. When including all casualties, not just deaths, the collateral damage ratio of the "mowing" operations is 162:1 and not "just" 6:1 based on analyzing UN OHC data from 2008 to 2022. A 162 :1 ratio means that for every 162 civillians, 1 military personnel is a casualty. The 7th had a ratio of 1.6:1, a hundred times lower. The reported (not all have their ages listed) ages of the victims are as follows: 0-4: 2 civilians 5-12: 8 civilians 13-17: 14 civilians 18-25: 132 civilians 26-40: 119 civilians 41-60: 55 civilians 61+: 40 civilians 18-25: 258 active duty military personnel 26-40: 60 active duty military personnel 41-60: 17 active duty military personnel 61+: 1 active duty military personnel civilians were taken to have swaps for the civilians rotting in prisons without charge on the other side. An excess of ten thousands, all before the seventh -Yocheved Lifshitz account - 'they treated us well' -Yasmin Porat account - 'i.T.f kxilled my husband' Plus only one side had the explosive power required to render homes into rubble. According to the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights form 2008-2023 the following figures are cited; Plstn Civilian Deaths: 1,440 (2008) 103 (2009) 81 (2010) 118 (2011) 255 (2012) 39 (2013) 1,492 (2014) 169 (2015) 109 (2016) 77 (2017) 300 (2018) 138 (2019) 30 (2020) 349 (2021) 191 (2022) 227 (2023)* xsrxeli Civilian Deaths: 3 (2008) 8 (2009) 11 (2011) 6 (2012) 4 (2013) 73 (2014) 32 (2015) 15 (2016) 14 (2017) 9 (2018) 10 (2019) 0 (2020) 9 (2021) 26 (2022) 26 (2023)* Total Plstn Wounded**: 2,325 (2008) 6,401 (2009) 1,572 (2010) 4,677 (2011) 3,992 (2012) 17,533 (2014) 14,639 (2015) 3,464 (2016) 8,447 (2017) 31,259 (2018) 1,5491 (2019) 2,581 (2020) 19,183 (2021) 10,345 (2022) 8,508 (2023)* **Wounded includes amputations *2023 data up to 9/30/2023
@ranro73719 ай бұрын
The first time the phrase “human animal” was recorded in history was by Eichmann in WW2 he literally said “we have to be savages in a chapter that will never be written when treating human animals”, even their calculating of calories was also don " In the Tantura (2022) documentary there is a iTf man who says that they took a pregnant woman, made bets whether the baby is a boy or a girl, disemboweled and cut her stomach open to check who won, another one talking about school children who were raising their the hands, the same way kids do in a classroom, after he rounded them up. He then kept firing. Both laughing merrily and casually at the recollection. In another documentary '1948: Creation & Catastrophe', a survivor speaks about women getting violated infront of their family members by iTf. She was a child at the time and still wept as an elderly woman. For more recent atrocities, "Breaking the Silence" record statements by the iTf themselves, they recount the events witht he same casualty their forebears do. The journalist Gideon Levy once was at a checkpoint in the west bank where the soldiers there force the ambulance to wait an hour before someone clears it through as part of a routine while they watch Tv. The journalist waited with the ambulance then got angry, confronted the iTf soldier asking him what if it were your mother in the ambulance, the soldier made the same face and pointed his weapon at him. This was many years ago, it had only gotten worse since. They simply dont see them as human, by ANY means want the world to see the same.
@mznxbcv123459 ай бұрын
haaretz datasheet titled title: xsraxl's Dead: The Names of Those Killed in Hxmxs Attacks, Mxssxcres and the xsrxel-Hxmxs Wxr There is a more detailed report of of oct 7th titled "I scrapped the information about 1096 of the 1460 killed on 7th of October Attack. Children Less than 1%" Wrote it 2 months ago hence numerical discrepancy as it was reported to had been 1500 back then and not just 1148 as it is now.
@csillag1329 ай бұрын
What an incredibly enlightening and educative interview- thank you!
@nomez22309 ай бұрын
Piers Morgan AND Eli Hassel refused to answer the question and quickly change the subject. Anothe masterclass Dr Finklestien 👏
@LPno.99 ай бұрын
He sure did.
@md85aus949 ай бұрын
Sorry the bloke who cheered on October 7 , was banned from Israel for supporting hezbulla, pretends he doesn't support hamas 👍
@LPno.99 ай бұрын
@@md85aus94 He doesn't hide his support for this action by Hamas and other Palestinians. He admits it, as do I. This was the only thing left for them to do.
@md85aus949 ай бұрын
@@LPno.9 like they did in Jordan and lebanon and Egypt doesn't even want the Palestinians in the Sinai. But yeah their only choice was more violence after 70 years of violence and the only time they accepted peace deals they turned their land into a terror hell-hole.
@md85aus949 ай бұрын
@@LPno.9 yep another finklestein jihadi who thinks your can bomb for 75 years your way to peace.
@ttsnews80358 ай бұрын
The Messiah warned the world of the synagogue of $atan almost 2000 years ago and the world turned it’s back to Him and now we’re in this mess.
@dumdumbox9 ай бұрын
Fink is a real one. I greatly respect his integrity, thoroughness, and easily understandable, balanced approach to everything.
@maryfarrell94399 ай бұрын
Kid. You’re so lucky he gave you the time of day. Your last words “of course I don’t agree with everything you say”. Well, nothing you said in this interview made me disagree with anything Norm said. You can learn from this man. We all can. I hope you don’t make this a waste of Norm’s time.
@jackohere18789 ай бұрын
Spot on - the young interviewer has a lot to learn. I guess he is trying but as the old saying goes "the proof will be in the pudding"
@HanningtonGoldin9 ай бұрын
Agree 100% 🎯
@Ryan-on9ne9 ай бұрын
It was an interview. I'm not sure how you can be so condescending in this comment.
@Motaron9 ай бұрын
what a disgusting, condescending comment to make
@kedrick939 ай бұрын
Norm is also wrong on so many fronts, if evidence shows this to be the case would you change your mind and disagree with what Norm has said?