Elite Dangerous Beyond - How to Find Material Traders

[@ClintThrust-e8r]

INARA has a list of traders. Third party tool to the rescue again.

[@Bakamoichigei]

It bugged the hell out of me when I realized material traders only showed up IF YOU'VE ALREADY FOUND THEM. I mean, sure, it's nice being able to get back to them easily, but they made like the whole point of the filter was to FIND the material traders and tech brokers in the first place... Not just display ones you've already found. :\

[@MrTbone1975]

so basically this video was useless for the people that wants to find the traders?

[@Bakamoichigei]

No, he told you exactly how to find the traders. It's the new 'services' filters on the Galaxy Map that are nearly useless. :\

[@cbiser12]

except i visited all three types last night, and now today i have none when i filter the galaxy map. so im just going to book mark one of each around shinrarta and call it a day.

[@Bakamoichigei]

It'll show up from as far away as you can see things-- hundreds of lightyears _--if I've been there and used the service before,_ otherwise it could be 30ly or 3ly and it still won't show up. What it comes down to is that it's a nifty feature so long as they're not claiming we can use it to FIND traders/brokers we haven't been to before. (Because once you have that data, being able to pull up an at-a-glance view of nearby services is handy.)

[@cbiser12]

Bakamoichigei right. But it's not for me. Idk why, it's just not. So I'm gunna book mark some and just use INARA lol

[@MrJohnnygo]

I read this from Ed Lewis (I think) on Reddit yesterday. "Each trader type only trades in their type of materials and can be found in different economy types. Locations material traders can be found are: - Raw Materials Trader: found at extraction and refinery economies, only trades in raw material found on planet surfaces and planetary rings. - Manufactured Materials Trader: Found at industrial economies, only trades in manufactured materials. - Encoded Materials Trader: Found at High Tech and Military economies, only trades in encoded materials. - Systems also need to be mid to high security systems and have populations between 1,000,000 and 22,000,000. • Materials Traders will not show up in anarchy systems. • Materials Traders will not show up at stations that are currently controlled by a criminal faction. • Materials Traders will be unavailable when a station is damaged, under repair or put on lockdown. • Horizons is required to use Material traders. • Material traders can be found using the new map view configuration ‘By Service’ option. This has a 40ly range and only shows traders that you have discovered. • Material traders will also be shown on the system map in the station services list. • Material traders will appear in the Human Bubble, Colonia and Pleiades regions at economies types listed above." It helped me find traders in no time. However some systems with Refining/Industrial can have either Raw or Manufactured Traders but not both. It's a bit of a crap-shoot sometimes as I found out.

[@ScotDykstra]

Could you link this please? Looks really helpful!

[@MrJohnnygo]

Sorry about that. It's quite lengthy. forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/409098-Elite-Dangerous-Beyond-the-features-of-3-0?p=6447488#post6447488

[@vib80]

The population guideline won't help in Colonia (no system is up to a million yet). The ones there are all at big orbitals: Coeus/Foster Terminal (manufactured), Kojeara/TolaGarf's Junkyard (raw), and Ratraii/Colonia Dream (encoded).

[@tesstickle7267]

Maybe it's me but things are definitely missing from the traders lol theres a material you need for the shock cannon for example, don't see any trade options lol

[@beensolid23]

You're a hero. Thank you.

[@anglerfishtanking]

Jesus was it really asking too much to have material traders at engineering bases? Not having shipyards is bad enough. I mean it's better than nothing of course, but come on.

[@Vuldriel]

This is just what I was trying to figure out! You’re always so helpful and informative Obsidian, thanks for being such an important part of the Elite community!

[@Madmike772]

Always come to you for Elite updates & Info! Much respect for your work man ✊

[@DrakeXIIIE]

ObsidianAnt, you're like a tour guide/professor to workings of the E:D universe. Thank you! o7

[@jthorpe4droid]

Had a snow day today from work and my elite update finished downloading. So far this is the best new feature for me and my aspx

[@KOS762]

I was just trying to see what is the difference between ED:Beyond and ED: Odyssey? This is a good Informational video. 🤓

[@aussie2565]

awesome, your channel is always the best for elite dangerous for dummy's..cheers

[@MADhaseX]

It is a shame, that third party tools like INARA are needed for this game. And... it doesn't reflect reality. Every trader on earth is using ads... phone books... internet sites... etc. to offer his business to the public. He wants to be found... not to be searched for. In ED... its ridiculous that we have to search for these traders...

[@shadowfax9861]

I see I inara is already updated to show where your nearest MT is. Nice one.

[@dsagent]

Ok. Forget this. I am just going to wait until there is an official list somewhere.

[@footsteps398]

dsagent lol

[@Urufu-san]

Inara.cz under stations - nearest

[@kemanifells2002]

Could you do a recap video on the new trading system? I'm struggling to understand how it works.

[@Urufu-san]

kemani fells all the info is out there, many times over

[@ziljanvega3879]

Galaxy map is bugged. Service filter tab doesn't show any colors for any of the 10,000s of systems I've already visited, or even the system that I am currently in!!

[@Harbinger421]

Material traders won't show up unless you travel to the stations they are on after the 3.0 update. Any systems you've been to pre 3.0 that may have traders now won't show up.

[@JamesBrumder]

4:00 has what you need

[@ScotDykstra]

Thanks for the video(s). I'd say frontier needs to hire you but I dont wanna lose you to them - and then mysteriously become way less helpful! :)

[@kiddylad1]

Great video and very informative. Now I know 👍

[@TamrenStarshadow]

I'm based out of Diaguandri, there is an encoded data broker there. Having a hell of a time finding more brokers.

[@HairyCaveMan]

Right click and drag on the check boxes for the filter menu in the galaxy map to deselect them quickly. Watching you individually click each one was painful. Love the videos though!

[@CrazyLife2112]

Thanks a bunch. Super helpful!

[@kevinsharp8503]

The Ngurii system where you buy Soontill relics has the manufactuared trader. Thats all i got, godspeed o7

[@justanothergamingchannel5000]

SO listen I took my corvette to an engineer for fsd mine is grade 5 already but I was asked to do a legacy role which would drop my level to grade 5 but them allow me to upgrade again. This is clearly something from the new patch but what is is benefit in a legacy role and if I do this what extras do I get when I use the new system to reach level 5 again on my fsd drive. The legacy role seems to be in all engineered elements of the ship. Also I bought a new class 6 fsd and new weapons but do to "legal" issues had to "clean them" cost me millions before that I had a 400 credit bounty but once id paid it i had to pay around 10 million to clean the products from legal issues so I could move or install them. If I didn't clean they stay in storage. GLITCHS?

[@Balzi1982]

Thx you really helped me out!!!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@Nabekukka]

Unrelated to video topic, I noticed something pretty annoying. I'm currently at COL 173 SECTOR OE-P D6-11 Planet B 3, the Ancient Ruin Beta site at 2, -10.67 has changed, the obelisk layout of the site is now different from the one detailed in Canonn Ruin Map. One other site at another system has been reported having a different layout than what it was before 3.0, OP implied that this is limited just Beta sites in systems / planets that contain the new Guardian Structure sites, but it may not be limited to just those systems as the one where I am in does not have any GS sites. Anybody got any ideas as to what is going on? I'll try to take a better look if the site later today once I get off from work if it still contains at least the same obelisks than previously. But if the obelisks have been changed as well to any degree, it's going to be a nightmare. Especially if there's more of these changed sites. I've submitted my reply to a bug report created by another guy along with screenshots and link, but I don't know if this is a bug or was it an intentional change by FDev.

[@wilkbardzozly8125]

Did you reckon that you may filter by civilization and find all guardian and thargoids sites. They are visible if you fly close to 1000 is.

[@lennyvee5735]

I have tried this and I find it a bit confusing if the system has two economies. Wilberg Hub has both but it could contain a raw material trader or data trader. I guess you will not know until you travel there?

[@user-rf8ri7cr5l]

is it worth getting the game in 2018? like are the servers going to be up for much longer?

[@Bakamoichigei]

Is this a joke? The plan was to continue active development for at least _ten years,_ nevermind the fact that things often seem to take an average of 2x as long as estimated... And given that the company was basically founded for the purpose of making and running this game, I suspect the servers will remain up as long as they can keep the lights on.

[@user-rf8ri7cr5l]

ok thanks

[@Toutvids]

I would spend your money on something else.

[@Bakamoichigei]

*Raging Tout* Oh, you mean like that _glorified techdemo_ you play? Enjoy waiting until _the heat-death of the universe_ for a finished game.

[@Toutvids]

You mean all those 150 games I own on Steam are tech demos? Man, thanks for letting me know, idiot. (159 games, actually, with 137 of them installed)

[@AcidSplodge]

I wish they'd just have multiple searches at the same time. having trade routes and population is completely irrelevant when looking for thargoids. I'd rather have maybe 3 different pull down like the main one. that way you could say search for two things like "empire:alliance" owned "trading sites that export palladium" for example.

[@Hawk_of_Battle]

This would be helpful... but after I set it the right economy type and set a population type to the right amount and finding a system that seems to meet the criteria (exactly as shown here) I then can't actually see the system map... because of course I've never been there. So this method still doesn't work for me. Back to using wikis and other third party info from outside the game to find anything once again it seems.

[@NFawc]

Why are Material Traders needlessly split up? Why are Material Traders not simply at Engineer locations? Game depth? No! Challenging gameplay? No! Needless contrived faff pretending to be depth and challenging gameplay (Sandro™)? Yes! ps: I wonder how many CMDRs will simply use third part tools to find their nearest Material Trader?

[@NFawc]

And there you go... Already been done! - inara.cz/galaxy-nearest/25/

[@ferrarispr1]

Omg that is soooooo uwwwwwwwwww haha i was about ready to give up on this game cuz i kept getting piss i could never find the right materials i needed and didnt know that trading was a thing!!!! Lol Thanks for the video. Keep up the awesome work informing us about this game cuz its crazy ridicules if you dont know what to do.

[@BerryBlender]

this helped me, cheers Obsidian Ant

[@exoticspeedefy7916]

Just some info - Heveri and LHS 317 are both manufactured. Haven't found raw materials yet

[@carlwalker007]

This really helped. Thanks!!!

[@robynhighart2026]

This system is a flipping nightmare. Need a spreadsheet just to keep track of all the crappy common materials. I honestly preferred the RNG. I could just show up and spend a couple of hours and have 8 different weapons on my corvette. Now I want to make one with all Overcharged High Yield Cannons, and it seems like it will take me a week.

[@EatingthatBread]

Just collect all mats you come across, problem solved. Works pretty well now that material storage is only limited per material not overall

[@robynhighart2026]

I don't "come across" any materials. I used to just binge collect when I had to but this is ridiculous. What is the reason to go through G1 to G5 every time?! Nothing but time-sink is the answer.

[@DarkReturns1]

I dunno, I'm loving these new engineers...

[@EatingthatBread]

Dude i dont think you quite get this, all materials are still available as they were, and are able to be found before the update, T9's still drop high tier chem manipulators for example. the only thing the trader does is convert materials into others. lets say you have chem manipulators but need low tier chem processors, ez pz lemon squeezee go to the material trader and convert the manipulators down a few tiers into a whole bunch of processors. same thing works upwards on the tier scale too. pretty neat if you ask me. The new engineering blueprints cost much less for way better results, so way less RNG, way, WAY less grind

[@covenantoflegions6825]

all I'm gonna do now is collect grade 5 materials only and just convert them as needed. There are places where you can easily get certain grade 5 mats. Davs dock, Tanker, crashed anaconda, etc.

[@vib80]

What's making it hard for me to find traders isn't that I don't have the data... I've visited many systems, including all the inhabited ones in Colonia where I currently am. The problem is that that category doesn't use check boxes like the others... it uses radio buttons. So there's no way to turn off "none"... which in Colonia means that you straining your eyes hunting through a massive mess of blue lines and grey circles to find them, because that area is thick with uninhabited stars (Economy with "none" off is my standard setting to get around).

[@vib80]

Okay, I had an idea... get into an SRV and have no jump range and those annoying blue lines will disappear (but still, lots of grey circles). That made it easy to spot the raw material trader at Tolagarf's Junkyard this time.

[@Bakamoichigei]

That's a clever workaround. I had no idea that it didn't just use the jump range of your current ship while you were in the SRV...

[@jediexile64]

Frontier is slow on letting me play :(

[@Jazod]

How so?

[@jediexile64]

Shawn the Sheep had an issue with logging and password info. Took 3 days for them to give me an answer.

[@ratchetqwark89]

most likely this will have to wait until until eddb updates to show these :(

[@NightOwlGames]

ive seen this trader somewhere i dont know where the map filters not doing anything

[@ZexMaxwell]

Wait, does this mean we can find guardian sites though the map now?

[@ObsidianAnt]

Yep, it seems so. And once in the system, the location shows up on your nav panel, so no more aimless searching.

[@Toutvids]

Oh good, spend more time looking at the map and less time flying. So much for being almost 1300 years in the future.

[@MistaGeezy90]

Nice video OA. But you need some more PS4 videos!

[@ObsidianAnt]

Glad you enjoy the PS4 videos. I will certainly be making more. :)

[@MistaGeezy90]

ObsidianAnt Awesome! Thanks for the reply. I fell off for a little while but trying to get back into playing. Looking forward to the videos 👍

[@technoviking2415]

i went to a thargoid base now it says i need a permit since 3.0 any ideas anyone

[@jimst3r1]

clearly you have found something they have locked off... post the system name on here and planet location; i'm sure players would love to know another locked system to keep an eye on!

[@technoviking2415]

Stelios Kontos its the first base discovered when i enter the orbit of the planet it drops me out and says permit needed also u cant get any closer it pushes u back let me know if u find anything out

[@jimst3r1]

yeah dude, post the name of the actual system from the galaxy map, enter the left handle panel, go to galaxy map and make a note of the system name you visted when you discovered it. If you post it people will know where to look. It could be that somepoint it opens and you can find something there, or it stays locked and eventually something in the narrative happens and people will go there. But permit locks like that are because frontier are placing content there.

[@technoviking2415]

Stelios Kontos its HIP 19026 planet B1c

[@jimst3r1]

cheers dude, ill take a look :D hopefully something happens!

[@randobamarny]

How to find anything in this game??? Use inara

[@1___________________1-n6i]

"How to find material traders" "Hold on let me talk about something else to stretch the video out so I get ad revenue"

[@GoogleIsNotYourFriend]

I have been one of "those" people that has been actively shitting on the last two updates...the Beyond Roadmap seemed to really address community concerns and the 3.0 update has improved on old systems. - New ship - Better planets - Better trading data - New goid, SSS and guardian experiences - GalNet improvements and COVAS. - Steps towards piracy and punishment gameplay - Streamlined engineers (Some still seem to think it takes longer and are complaining about "finding" traders...are you serious. Lies! Deceptions! I am currently rerolling ALL SHIPS ingame plus some...you are full of shit if you think it takes longer now.) - Better optimisation (The planetary "loading" dropout seems shorter and FSD jumps?) Come on people, throw a dog a bone. FDev did OK with this update.

[@spencerlouch5306]

Are you Jonathan Ross in disguise

[@robertboomer7632]

thanks for the info

[@ross-carlson]

Yeah, and everyone thought we'd get less grind with 3.0 - it is in fact FAR FAR more grind. Ranking each module. Huge requirements for experimental effects. Impossible to find material traders. Horrible trade rates for materials. Ah Frontier, 1 step forward and 3 steps back on every single update. Beyond:Grind.

[@lennyvee5735]

Then go and play PacMan.....moan moan bloody moan

[@Bakamoichigei]

The material traders and tech brokers are SUPER easy to find... Just not _as easy_ as FDev made it sound like it was going to be, using the new map filters. If you want to focus on something being BS, _that_ one is a valid grievance. (But at least the map filters make it easy to find them again without bookmarks.) The whole new Engineer system is a _vast_ improvement over old one, so I'm not sure what you're on about there...

[@Red_Lion2000]

@ The Veggie Cyclist You realize that criticism is what shapes a better game right? i dont understand why people like you jump to frontiers defense on downright dumb game mechanics like this. In my opinion, they should remove engineers entirely, or make them have 95% less of an effect.

[@steammausss164]

I wonder if the gardiens are extinct or just hiding from something or someone...

[@justanothergamingchannel5000]

SO listen I took my corvette to an engineer for fsd mine is grade 5 already but I was asked to do a legacy role which would drop my level to grade 5 but them allow me to upgrade again. This is clearly something from the new patch but what is is benefit in a legacy role and if I do this what extras do I get when I use the new system to reach level 5 again on my fsd drive. The legacy role seems to be in all engineered elements of the ship. Also I bought a new class 6 fsd and new weapons but do to "legal" issues had to "clean them" cost me millions before that I had a 400 credit bounty but once id paid it i had to pay around 10 million to clean the products from legal issues so I could move or install them. If I didn't clean they stay in storage. GLITCHS? LINK BELOW to the "CLEANING PROCESS' kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4rTeoGwqNWJnNU

[@ScotDykstra]

Why would you re-engineer your legacy modules instead of just buying a fresh module to engineer? Especially now that they increased the module storage.

[@Bakamoichigei]

I had originally wanted to store all my legacy modules... But then I had a pain in the arse time replacing them so I just said whatever. When I converted my Grade 5 'god roll' Long Range FSD to a Grade 4 in the new system, it actually had a SLIGHTLY LONGER RANGE. I saw someone in Deciat local joke "When everybody has god rolls, nobody has god rolls." But hey, when Grade 4 tops my legacy god roll and it only goes up from there, I'LL TAKE IT.

[@justanothergamingchannel5000]

I think your have missed the point of the question which I'll ask again, what is a legacy roll and what are the benefits of doing it. I guess seeing as you missed that part I won't ask about why I have to pay millions to clean some of my modules for legal reasons when I had fines, bounties etc. Love repeating the same 2 questions to someone after already receiving a none answer.

[@justanothergamingchannel5000]

ok thanks for answering part one of the question. Any idea about the millions i had in legal issues on some of my modules. I had no fines, bounties or crimes, but cost me around 9 million to clean parts just so I can use them and move them around, install etc.

[@Bakamoichigei]

Honestly I'd ask Frontier, because all bounties should have been wiped with the 3.0 release. That sounds like a bug, in which case, you'll probably get the credits back if you file a bug report about it. EDIT: Though if you're saying that's a new bounty you picked up after the update... Yeah, I don't know. They need to work on that shit. Anything under murder or the equivalent amount really should just be a fine. During the beta I kept having to pay 1.9mil to clear 200cr bounties on my Chieftan.

[@trickydicky2594]

Why did we have to been there just to find one???

[@kentchr76]

Frontiers info about it: forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/409098-Elite-Dangerous-Beyond-the-features-of-3-0

[@THEMALBINO]

Give a time stamp

[@gabrielsum1]

Aammm...in Portuguese "bunda" means ass...so obsidian ant is in ass system...

[@JLim4o]

Bunda...

[@Ghxste242]

Bunda hahaha

[@imperialgaming5751]

This is all pc mate zero options like this on xbox not helpfull

[@Buggerme75]

First

[@thehipinmyear]

lmao

[@thehipinmyear]

with a middle finger, to boot xD

[@Buggerme75]

Yep my job here is done :p