Elite: Dangerous - Eclipsed

[@DowntoEarthAstronomy]

Thanks for the kind words :)

[@jeffthebaptist3602]

Thanks for all your great content. I started playing Elite because of Jingles, but your channel has been a source of so much great stuff that helped me climb up the learning curve.

[@bennettebertz1269]

May the Pickle-Master flourish!

[@brianh2798]

Jingles and a of mine got me to play E.D. I subscribed to down to earth for the wonderful instructional videos, and now I watch daily to both channels.

[@tommyfred6180]

just subed :)

[@supercrafty392]

Hi jingles, i have been a fan and subscriber of yours for more then 5 years, i have really liked ur videos especially the humor you bring to the table, recently due to corona issue i have been struggling with financial crises, due to which i have started my own channel on you tube related to paper art work, i thought it was a good time to ask you the favor to mention my channel in one of your videos, i do not know how to contact you beside here as i am an old guy with as much little knowledge of internet, so its like asking you for a favor. Here is the link to my channel, its nothing in front of your fan base and content but its a try on my side. kzbin.info/door/B7c3eYDsG_wIaZ9GPV77KQ?view_as=subscriber I hope you wont mind me putting it here. thanks God bless you.

[@orciencor6001]

Glad that one is still there even now. We've lost so many interesting places that existed due to bugs or edge cases in the Stellar Forge. If you really want to have fun there, get a few people together, and go SLF racing in the canyons near the installation on Mitterand. Nothing like making tight turns at full speed when suddenly all the lights go out for a couple of seconds on you. Admittedly, night vision exists now to help compensate for that. But it's fun none the less.

[@bogatyr2473]

I'm fine with them fixing bugs, but I'm also of the opinion that the weird edge cases should be left, and maybe just "fix" them by lowering their occurrence rate to something ridiculously low.

[@tomriley5790]

Realistically - the moon would probably break up, but being geologically active is accurate - the stretch and compression of orbiting generates lots of heat/ earthquakes. Similarly passing through the planets magnetosphere generates alot of static energy - so you could expect dischages between the moon and planet (all of which occurs in the Solar system). (The ED Team knows all this - Mitterand Hollow was nearly removed as a bug but kept in because it's just so cool :-)!))

[@JohnWilliamNowak]

Break up, or be tidally locked.

[@jogvantrondesen5235]

@@JohnWilliamNowak The moon, and possibly the planet, would be liquid rock because of tidal forces. 🥵

[@uteriel282]

@@JohnWilliamNowak the tidal locking is a given. our moon is dozens of times farther away from earth than this moon from its main planet and its already tidally locked. but being that close to the planet would rip the moon to shreds which would then form a ring around it or crash into it. the moons gravity would also rip pieces out of the planet by either breaking mountains apart or creating a tidal wave more than a kilometer in hight.

[@ScottKenny1978]

We have seen things like this in NASA photos of Jupiter's moons, particularly Io.

[@MagereHein]

The moon would break up, the Roche limit being what it is. To have an orbital period so short the moon has to be very close to its primary.

[@austindavies6371]

Q: " What are the effects of a moon orbiting at such a quick rate?" A: "Charlie dont surf!"

[@iang333]

13:25 actually Jingles, a 'day' relates to time taken for a body to complete a full rotation around its own axis. What you described there is a 'year' - the time it takes for a body to orbit its parent, which in this case is the planet. That makes it even more incredible.

[@Dumdadum76]

iang333 bc they may be tidally locked. Then, for the moon, one rotation around the planet is the same as one axis rotation. -edit- actually not true, our own moon is tidally locked, but here we see a planetrise. So the moon rotates in reference to the planet.

[@neilwilliams2907]

No, Jingles is right. The moon and the planet both take the same amount of time to go around their sun, which would take many days to complete i.e. a year.

[@lazarusdrake8593]

If you want to be pedantic, then a complete rotation of a singular moon around its planet is called a "month". So yeah, a month here is a minute and a half

[@sntxrrr]

Let's just agree it's fast :)

[@Dumdadum76]

Fast fast

[@MrByped]

Both the moon and the planet would experience absurdly high amounts of tidal heating along with constant volcanic and seismic events, the crazy part is that the moons tidally locked already so at some point in its past it was actually even closer to the planet because the process of tidal locking ends up converting rotational velocity into orbital velocity extending the orbit to where it is when you visited it.

[@bargu]

The moon wouldn't exist because is way inside the Roche limit of the planet, it would be a ring.

[@MikeeCZ]

They are not tidally locked, Mitterand Hollow has no rotation what so ever :) Tidally locked means the same side of the moon always faces the planet (Earths moon is tidally locked to us) There is probably no object in the universe that has NO rotation, this is unrealistic and left in the game deliberately as explained by jingles :)

[@ShinyCopperpot]

@@MikeeCZ Tidally locked doesn't mean that the orbiting object has no rotation, it means the object's rotation period matches to it's orbiting period. That is why we always see our Moon's same side from Earth.

[@MikeeCZ]

@@ShinyCopperpot Thats exactly what I said using different words, but i can see where my wording could've caused confusion, fixed

[@MrByped]

@@MikeeCZ 2:34 you can clearly see in moons info that its "tidally locked"

[@TheMouseMasterYT]

8:58 well, for starters, I imagine your earlier description of this planet as "Earth-Like" would need to be prefixed by "post-apocalyptic"

[@57thorns]

www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/6wldga/mitterand_hollow_and_why_it_exists/ short summary: The system and the moon was entered from an old Elite game, and there was an error. The moon is just outside the Roche limit, so it might survive. However, it is going way too fast for that orbit. That is where the typo came in. It is close, it should be fast, perhaps ISS fast but the current 876 km/s is about 100 times the escape velocity of New Africa.

[@Hunpecked]

Given that this situation is impossible in Nature, perhaps it could be explained in game as ancient alien technology leading to a player quest?

[@zakpizza999]

It's an unexplained anomaly

[@sunson3131]

There are a lot of things out there with crazy (by our standards) orbital speeds. Like planet SWIFT J1756.9-2508 b that orbits its star every 48 minutes, 56.5 seconds. Weeeeeeeeeeee

[@MikeeCZ]

During the 2 black hole collision we detected the gravitational waves from in LIGO, just before the actual collision, they orbited each other at the rate of less than a second per orbit. This is black holes we talking, with masses 8 and 30 times larger than sun. Imagine the momentum they must've had, and the amount of gravity it must've taken to still overpower that momentum.

[@uteriel282]

@@MikeeCZ those black holes were also far smaller than a planet.

[@johngrace1312]

Uteriel uh, no. Size means nothing compared to mass. It takes more energy to move something that has more mass than it is to move something that is bigger.

[@romaindubray2325]

@@johngrace1312 But for the "spectacle" of the situation, volume tends to be a bigger wow factor than mass. Although knowing about the mass is mind blowing in and of itself.

[@TheSorrowR]

If you plan on buying the game - its currently discounted by 75% on Steam till August, 31st 2020

[@Bierdimpfi]

Thx for the info

[@davidlabedz2046]

That's how I got into the game. You won't get a better price for so much fun!!!!

[@MNewton]

Also, if you plan on buying check out down to earth astronomy's page. It contains a wealth of info that is very useful about how all the in game systems work.

[@jamielonsdale3018]

You can delete this post now. It's too late, and will just confuse people.

[@shingshongshamalama]

Shame I can't afford a good flight stick.

[@BrokenHammerLLC]

It makes me incredibly happy that you're playing, enjoying, and sharing your experiences in E:D with your audience. I absolutely treasure this game and have made hundreds of fantastic memories through playing it. Appreciate you Jingles! Get Rita in here!

[@symgamer4382]

Awesome place, haven’t been to this one yet, but I’ve randomly found several interesting planets and moons that are just incredible to see up close. Keep up the good work Jingles 😀

[@MrGrimsmith]

I saw the "Salvageable Wreckage" tag and thought, "Hey, Jingles has been here before!" :P

[@Plasma438]

That might be quite accurate, really. That or its one of Yamiks' dead horse trading ships.

[@makarabaduk1754]

If the wreck is salvageable it wasn't a Jingles' landing.

[@davidlabedz2046]

Jingles, the started playing Elite Dangerous in to primarily explore. The game doesn't disappoint. Thanks you and a hat tip to Down to Earth Astronomy.

[@paulvamos7319]

There is actually a couple of weirder things in reality. One: a Neutron star that orbits a black hole once every 45 seconds and is a blur on the scopes. Two: A Gas Giant almost as big as our Sun orbiting a Pulsar about once every 5 minutes, it is detected because it blocks the flashing of the Pulsar for about 20 seconds. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

[@Neryman]

Great Place to visit. Will deffinitely go there to marvel at that unique natural spectacle myself. Thanks a lot for the hint @DTEA.

[@PepsiSpriteLight]

The planets are actually orbiting? I didn't know that! It's amazing how detailed this game is. This is so underrated!

[@InnateOwl]

Loving the ED content!

[@endoflevelboss]

I sped this footage up by a factor of 20. I sped this up by a factor of 20x. So remember, I sped this up by a factor of 20. Did I mention I sped it up 20 times. Thanks for the speed up. You're an amazing guy.

[@mpersad]

In 4k the Planet rise and set is spectacular!

[@johnnypatterson7512]

Hey Jingles! Thanks for peaking my interest in this game. Picked it up on Steam for 7 quid.

[@ThatAussieBloke1]

that glorious 60fps is so nice

[@TheRatlord74]

I did something similar on a different planet/moon, but in VR. It was an experience that is hard to describe.

[@kaizr2553]

Oh wow! That system is right by my home system Il Aquarii, I've lost count of the amount of times I've visited the system and it's planets. For the longest time I was curious if anybody else had really noticed the unusual orbital period or paid it any mind. Glad to see that's not the case!

[@stonii420]

A wonderful sight. For any explorer !

[@elementalgamer0732]

Your ship's paint job looks much better this time around.

[@Musketeer009]

Nerdy voice here please. Er now Mr Jingles, a 'Day' is the time it takes for an object to rotate about its own axis of rotation, not the period of time it takes that object to orbit another object. Therefore, Mitterand Hollow does not have a day of 1m 21s. New Africa though, having only one moon, has months (using the Earth definition of a month) that lasts 1m 21s each. Hope that clears that up.

[@DeadBaron]

I love how Frontier is quick to ruin any "exploits" that lessen the grind, but allow so many planets like this that would be torn apart by their moons or vice versa.

[@mikovee2291]

Epsilon Indi system? What planet we visiting? Harvest? Reach? I thought the Covenant was wiped out... Mostly...

[@malusignatius]

The tidal forces between New Africa and Mitterrand Hollow would be nuts... Both bodies would have a pile pf geological activity and (as Jingles suggested) the oceans would flex up and down like trampoline with each orbit.

[@pipeepapofckgug3633]

[@caffeineaddictedklutz]

I really appreciate the 4K re-recording. If only my ISP would let me watch it in anything better than 480p. Still, cool system. I'm glad that some developers listen to their community.

[@Finly052]

Thanks for uploading in 4K when you can, man this video is gorgeous. Take care. 👍😊

[@johnib5905]

Hey jingles! A moon that big, that close, and that fast wouldn't just pull a giant tide around, it'd probably also cause a geological tide and cause the planet it is orbiting to be much more active in that regard. I used to be a little involved in exoplanets/astrobiology back before I switched to engineering, always loved thinking about weird possible systems like PH1.

[@mrcnorth7149]

Sweet view Jingles. Your Elite Dangerous series got me to get his game. Frontier/Steam is having a 15.99 sale until 8/31 (at least in the US) for the ED Cmdr Dlx pkg. At that price it is an easier choice. Currently I have maxed out my Sidewinder and have 1mil banked (most $$$ via going to resource extraction sites and collecting bounties once 'wanted' ships are below 40%-thx federal popo's) . I am planning a quick trip for a few million in the sidey to explore, then I'll mine a bit in either the hauler or adder. Thx for the views into the deep space.

[@SPIRIT-117]

Fun fact: Epsilon Indi is the system in the Halo universe where the planet Harvest is located - the planet from the books and Halo Wars.

[@GeorgePrince]

Wow, could such places exist? That would be amazing for sure!!

[@chainmaker]

I don't play ED as often as i should but still watch all D2EA's content as published. He is the only serious ED content creator i regularly listen to (grumpy latvian dead horse floggers aside)

[@rinngreen4295]

When I went there I just sat there and watched the moon zoom around the planet. Hi @Down to Earth Astronomy I love your Videos too

[@WandererRTF]

Similar place existed in the old Elite 2: Frontier. I wonder its presence in Elite Tankeros is an homage to it. However in EF you didn't have fancy 'frameshift' drives but had to reach with normal drives...

[@Philipasu]

That's one good example of a bug becoming a feature. But, that system should have a warning: "If you try to get close to that moon, first use the toilet."

[@YeOldeTraveller]

Simplest approach is to loiter in its orbit until it passes by and picks you up.

[@bogatyr2473]

Definitely could go for an "Uncle Jingles Sight Seeing Tours" as a series.

[@mickeficks]

I've chased it with assist on. It was before I knew what the deal was. Fun stuff.

[@thomaswilkinson3241]

Yay, last holiday weekend and a good space trip.

[@juansolo7485]

Imagine standing on that, the fucking G's from the inertia constantly changing.

[@edmartin875]

A flight down the Grand Canyon would fit right in with this video.

[@edmartin875]

Wrong video. I thought I was commenting on "Stopping To Smell The Roses".

[@martinmorsch7507]

I think the most interesting effects of suh a quick roatation would be the spinning magnetic field. Since the Moon has to be so incredibly close for it to have that fast of an orbit...

[@burcakb1]

D2EA is so awesome Frontier should be paying him good money for all his work

[@atomicsteameng]

8:58 I vaguely recall Earths own moon doing this in it's early history. Back when the moon was new, it apparently had an orbital period of 9 hours, and caused massive tidal waves on Earths surface.

[@JustSomeDudee]

Jingles earlier in the series. You may dock at this orbital But, we do not grant you the rank of Elite

[@zvezdashutzl]

at last jingles has the sense to buy a diamondback!!

[@zakpizza999]

Yup I got an asp and I'm moving to a dbx

[@theapostatejack8648]

Where a bug truly becomes a feature!

[@josa310]

I remember the first time I approached that moon ( totally clueless, got there via passenger missions ) I thought to myself- where are you going, come back here-

[@ningen1980]

That is a stellar view. No pun intended.

[@michaelsndergaard2912]

been coming around these videos pretty easy these days jingles, havent you? haha, well they have been beutiful to look at for sure. i wonder, after i started watching you play and show this, i found another streamer that tried to find his way to an closed hidden world. cant remember his name or the planet, but he to visited a moon similar to this(maybe even this) in hope to find clues as to where this hidden system would be. but its funny to see this world and how fast the moon is rotating. and how cool that the dev team decided to keep it in.

[@j.g.woitas841]

I have tried to get into Elite a couple of times.. i just can't :( Which is a shame, cause Jingles makes it look awesome!! Keep up the great videos!

[@Soulvalkyrie1]

have problems with the controls huh

[@drakegod84]

Ye of little patience. I would admit it is a game driven toward adults, it's kind of a thinking mans game.

[@Soulvalkyrie1]

@@drakegod84 and a good computer plus the right controls lol

[@stormwarrior007]

Have you tried joystick?

[@Soulvalkyrie1]

@@stormwarrior007 who me not yet and till i do my ship will drift outside of the station for all of eternity lol

[@Iceman7711]

Fun fact. Epsilon Indy was the location where humans first encountered the covenant from the halo series.

[@derptomistic]

That moon should realistically be a ring by this point

[@SuperibyP]

The moon would almost certainly be well inside the Roche limit of New Africa, and would therefore be smeared into a huge glowing ring around the planet by its tidal forces. The Roche limit or Roche radius of a stellar object is the minimum distance a smaller body held together by gravity can approach before the tidal forces of the larger object exceed the gravitational binding energy of the smaller object.

[@ryansears4387]

One consequence of that type of orbital period: both bodies likely spiral into a collision...

[@Kingxavier88]

I stumbled on this place carting around a bunch of sightseeing rich folks. Imagine my surprise when in my beluga I look over and a moon is barreling towards and suddenly I'm in a atmosphere

[@ZirconX1]

Well the consequence of this orbit Jingles is that this moon is well inside the Roche limit. In sinple terms, it orbits so close to it's parent planet that the gravitational tidal forces would tear it apart and form a ring around the planet.

[@detritus23]

The moon is probably orbiting at escape velocity for the gravity well. Either that or the planet is made of pure singularity dust and it’s occupants are massed on a planetary scale and 1 mm tall. An impossible moon worthy of Doctor Who. Thank you for the show.

[@Paveway-chan]

9:00 YYeah. Quite frankly the moon and that planet should have torn themselves apart long ago xD

[@sharkuc]

Warning, extreme geekery below. :p Using Kepler's Third Law, one can calculate the orbital period of any two bodies orbiting each other. The simplified version, where the mass of the smaller of the two is negligible compared to the larger (like say a spaceship or artificial satellite orbiting a planet), is as follows: T = 2 * pi * sqrt ( a ^ 3 / (G * M ) ) Where: T is the orbital period in seconds a is the orbit's semi-major axis G is the gravitational constant M is the mass of the more massive body Plugging in some numbers from the video, a is roughly 15.6Mm as seen at 9:57, G is 6.674 * 10 ^ -11 m ^ 3 kg ^ -1 s ^ -2 (as per wikipedia) and M of New Africa is 2.47 Earth masses (as seen at 2:52) or 2.47 * 5.972 * 10 ^ 24 kg (again as per wikipedia). Plugging all that in gives an orbital period of 12339 seconds or 3h25m39s. The more generalized version of Kepler's Third Law, where the mass of both bodies is non-negligible (as is the case for planets, moons, stars...) and both bodies orbit their barycenter, is as follows: T = 2 * pi * sqrt ( a ^ 3 / (G * (M1 + M2) ) ) where M2 is the mass of the second body, in this case Mitterand Hollow's mass of 0.001 Earth masses (as seen at 2:57). Plugging those numbers in, the orbital period turns in at 12336 seconds or 3h25m36s. Conversely, given the orbital period and masses involved, one can calculate the semi-major axis of the orbit as such: a = cuberoot ( (G * (M1 + M2) * T ^ 2) / (4 * pi ^ 2) ) Plugging in the orbital period of 86 seconds given at 13:26 into that formula, we get a semi-major axis of 569km, which I think is fair to say it is well inside the Roche limit of the little moon... In fact, it's well inside the radius of New Africa (7,982km, seen at 2:52). In conclusion, the orbital period of this moon is due to video game physics (aka complete bullshit) or the gravitational constant in the Elite Dangerous universe is wildly different from ours (and that's even assuming the other laws of physics are the same). I'll leave calculating Elite's gravitational constant as an exercise for the reader. Show your work. :D

[@Quenstar]

So, since the center of rotation is between the two bodies, would you call Pluto-Charon a double dwarf planet?

[@sharkuc]

@@Quenstar Yes, or at least the International Astronomical Union does... still kinda bitter about Pluto being demoted to dwarf planet status personally...

[@LordRenegrade]

Eh, I wouldn't say extreme geekery, but rather appropriate level of geekery. Anyhow, Jingles mentioned in the video that it's a bug that has since been patched, but then an exception made for this particular moon to restore it to the pre-patch state, so other moons and planets shouldn't be crazy like this. Some other posts have suggested that it was imported manually from F:E2 or F:FE and a typo occurred... now I'm curious about what the truth is. Regardless of the MT bug/typo, the other planets should be otherwise normal..and I'm probably going to be checking a few just to be sure. I'm just not sure how people got a reading on the orbital velocity, it's not in any useful form that I can see (especially with '0.0 D' orbital period). That shouldn't be a problem for most worlds, at least. Random aside: New Africa seems kinda hellish. 5.49 atmospheres of pressure, 1.58g surface gravity, and tidally locked? Oh well, at least it's only 294K surface temp, that's only a few degrees higher than Earth (~20c vs ~15c). I presume that the five and a half atmospheres of pressure makes the 5% oxygen adequate...

[@classicfrog80]

"Nighttime ... Daytime! ... Nighttime ... Daytime!"

[@MrAcuta73]

Now that we got you into the 4k world, Jingles, we just need to upgrade you to 21:9 aspect ratio.....for a game like this, it really is a MASSIVE immersive upgrade.

[@johnm9263]

The noon could be moving so fast that it merely makes a strong current

[@adyl4fs590]

I know it's still there because it's a bug too cool to fix, plus the orbital/tidal forces would wreck both and couldn't last long, but, but... how bizarre would a "Sky At Night" TV show be on New Africa: "Welcome to tonight and or todays live Hollow view... and there she is... and there again... again... Same. Yeah, again... Hmm... Bored now. Good night/day". Teeny bit like on Space 1999, when Moonbase Alpha tore out of Earth orbit and went galactic sight seeing, the first episode hinted that Earth weather went very weird - all wind, rain, clouds - but because it was filmed in Britain no one noticed any change for ages (drumroll, tshhhh) 😊

[@larryfontenot9018]

Whether or not Mitterand Hollow would "drag a tidal wave" across New Africa depends on its size. I couldn't estimate it, but suspect that the moon is pretty small and wouldn't have the mass to affect the seas that drastically. If a body the size of Earth's moon were close enough to the planet to need that kind of speed to maintain a stable orbit, it'd probably be inside the Roche Limit and would have broken up into a debris ring. This isn't the first game where I've seen a fast orbiting moon. In a game called Myst V: End of Ages, one planet has a moon with an orbital period of about 19 minutes, so the island the action takes place on has three solar eclipses hourly.

[@evidentside]

"Drive ploom" signs that Jingles is a fan of The Expanse.

[@mtndewv]

Given their masses and proximity to one another there would definitely be enough tidal forces to create ALOT of problem for anyone living on that world but i am also pretty sure it wouldn't even be able to maintain a stable orbit moving at those speeds, Its moving so fast it should literally just fly off into its own orbit around the star or at the very lest have a very elliptical orbit around the planet. Pretty sure its not close enough to tear itself apart but the waves on that planet would definitely be something to behold.

[@TwistedL9Productions]

Oof, Imagine the tidal waves on the planets surface from that..... would not be good.

[@thefunnyguyfromtheburgerki3334]

This is the perfect argument that not all bugs are bad

[@MrMyu]

Tidally locked, but not to the planet. To the star.

[@petrusnierop31]

Wow... 4k ... happy to have two 4k screens and yes it shows

[@zaraxxis1466]

Whoahman the only way I could see a moon of that apparent size orbiting a planet at that distance at that speed without disintegrating and/or killing everybody on the surface of its parent body via tidal forces of some variety would be if the moon were somehow in fact hollow.. And possibly had a shell layer comprised some incredibly hard material. I'm just going to headcanon it that its some sort of bizarre alien megastructure that was built for funsies.

[@timbrom]

I'd say the moon is almost certainly inside the tidal breakup distance from the planet. The extreme tidal forces would have ripped it apart a long time ago.

[@nafnist]

We tell ourselves that fdev haven't fixed Mitterand because it has become a legend, and beloved by so many. That's what we tell ourselves at least

[@mrexists5400]

Mitterand Hallow: "I'm fast as fuck boooooooooooooooooi!"

[@CMDRTeatime]

You should try this in VR - its even more awesome.

[@shadowOrgon]

they need to add systems with binary neutron stars that are in close proximity to each other that they orbit in under a second...would be cool to come across those. could even add that the extreme gravity waves from that messes with the FSD somehow.

[@justanotherviewer52]

Thanks Jingles.

[@yikezwot9032]

I don't suppose you can post your builds for your Asp X and Diamond Back as we would like to get those jump ranges? Cheers!

[@Krasbin]

Just a guess, but I think the moon goes around the planet going faster than escape velocity. So it'll fly away from the planet. But then the next question is: does it also exceed the escape velocity of the star at the center of the system? Because that would mean it would result in the escape of the moon from the star system as well.

[@leamseaton5628]

Good lord, that moon can shift!

[@Pienimusta]

Not just 4k, but 4k 60fps? Looks absolutely amazing. Is the planet populated, or what is causing the lights?

[@topsecret1837]

Is it possible to shut down the frame shift drive? And what happens then if you become the fly to the moon as the planet’s fly swatter?

[@Pcwarmachine]

The gravity on that moon must be ridiculous.

[@doriansoergel8160]

Making a Frenchman orbit Africa does have some irony to it.

[@hubristicmystic]

The moon would be like ours with one side permanently pointing toward the planet I’m thinking, so no planet rise and the day is the spin rate of the moon, the orbit is a month

[@johnsmith4499]

Because the moon is orbiting so quickly, the bending of its crust alone is enough to sustain geological activity, even if the core is dead. Also, pretty sure that you can't live on a planet with a moon orbiting that quickly, because it's so low, and so fast, it would cause massive tsunamis as 'tides'.

[@minhkhangtran6948]

Mitterand Hollow, is basically proof that god have a sense of humor

[@Zorglub1966]

Nobody else seems to have noticed it. I would'nt call Mitterand "hollow"!

[@ScottKenny1978]

The Devs, actually. Typo in porting in a planet from an earlier game.

[@DisapprovingPigeon]

I really hope they keep it in with the odyssey update

[@EMBer3000]

That orbit must be guardian f-ckery.

[@nicky2204]

I'm not an astrophysicist, but I don't think it's possible to orbit that fast, either because of the tidal forces that is so strong that it tears the moon apart, or it has to be so incredibly close to the orbiting planet that it'll basically crash on each other... Very interesting regardless

[@sotbs2641]

Yeah. Devs basically left it in because it's awesome. IRL it'd handily escape New Africa's gravity well. edit: and all this was in the video, which should teach me to watch first before commenting lol

[@Kazuhira95]

um...this video says it's possible and it's around a black hole... kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGG0g6OfmZqSh7c

[@MikeeCZ]

You are correct :) Orbit is a function between the moons mass, its orbiting speed, distance from the planet and the planet's gravity. So in order for this to orbit this way, it would either have to be very very low mass moon (which it couldnt be cuz than it would not form into a sphere), or the planet would have to have insanely strong gravity. Black hole sort of gravity. The way it is in the game atm, the moon is orbiting far far far beyond its escape velocity and would literally left the orbit, continuing in almost perfect straight line into space.

[@Apollad2]

A moon that close had better be geologically active, it should be being torn apart by tidal forces. XD It's orbiting so fast that it's own gravitational influence probably doesn't even have enough time to actually influence the surface tides enough to make a tidal wave, by the time the waters been tugged, the planets on the other side dragging it back to sea level.

[@still_guns]

876 km/s, or about 2 million mph. Just a *little* faster than Concorde.

[@wenyntrout]

Shame they retiried the Concorde, if they had slapped an extra engine on that bad boy it could've easily chased down Mitterand Hollow.

[@SlavicBoi]

Its my birthday today, this is a nice present