Elizabeth 1998- Courage to be loyal

[@kossttamojaan]

"You were the most powerful man in England. You could've been greater still. But you had not the courage to be loyal. Only the conviction of you own vanity." Damn.

[@jsj31313jj]

One of the most significant lines of Mr.Rush's character, absolutely brilliant 👏 😌👌

[@andystrachan598]

I love Geoffrey Rush as Walsingham. One of my favourite historical figures, played so beautifully by a fabulous actor.

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

Sad that his portrayal is so inaccurate. A good performance though.

[@andystrachan598]

@@NostalgicGamerRickOShay How often are historical figured accurately portrayed in movies? I think, if you're knowledgeable about history, you just have to accept that the entertainment factor is going to override historical accuracy more often than not.

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

@@andystrachan598 I can totally understand creative liberties. But I can't help but feel that the way Walsingham's portrayal here is anything short of a complete character assassination.

[@anibalcesarnishizk2205]

Walsingham,Elizabethan MI6.

[@chestersleezer8821]

@@NostalgicGamerRickOShay How is it inaccurate? This was an individual who witness what happened to in France during the Bartholomew's Day massacre he really did not want the Catholic Church to gain power in England so was driven by Protestant zeal to counter Catholicism. Sure I doubt that he did some of the things in the movie but all in all it was a better portrayal than having a Black man as a British Lord like the crap movie from 2018 on Mary Queen of Scots.

[@OliverJWeber]

“No. They will forget.” All you ever need to know about politics.

[@sarahkristensen]

1:16

[@nerva-]

And everything you need to know about the human nature side of politics. Norfolk only having "the conviction of your own vanity" was confirmed by his mistaken assertion that he was important enough in life to be made a martyr by the manner of his death, but Walsingham knows he'll be just another treasonous noble whose death will be of no consequence to the common people.

[@EwanCummins]

But we haven't forgotten him.

[@tommyzDad]

"... you had not the courage to be loyal. Only the conviction of you own vanity."

[@sarahkristensen]

0:46

[@mariajukejax9649]

Geoffrey Rush.....What an excellent actor. He played the part exquisitely.

[@sheshe3687]

This movie saw Geoffrey rush for like 26 mins screen time ... but impact in light years....... respect his talent.... God given.... just love him

[@wanrazul]

"light year" is a measure of distance, not time.

[@paulhiggins8995]

Superb acting by Geoffrey Rush

[@Paxneicj484]

@Human 101 The other guy is Christopher Eccleston. He is best know for playing the 9th Doctor in the Worlds longest running SCI-FI Show 'Doctor Who'

[@Edwardiv-s7d]

This scene is a masterclass in British film making and acting

[@wellhellothere6261]

Masterclass in Australian acting.

[@briane5706]

Geoffrey Rush AND Christopher Eccleston!

[@daniellima2973]

“No they will forget “ no truer words were ever spoken.

[@robertscaife2361]

This is the best scene ever perfect karma ...even giants can go down ..vanity ..power corrupts as well as ego ..

[@michaelwilkinson2928]

The best dialogue in the film.

[@historyboff23]

The music here is incredible!

[@danielcann]

You could have been greater still. But you had not the courage to be loyal. Only the conviction of your own vanity.

[@Zernebogus]

My favorite scene

[@ohaleceiffel]

Hands down best scene in movie.

[@danielpease641]

Captain Barbosa Vs The Doctor

[@billeffingmurray1224]

"No they will forget" is the best come back he could do?😅

[@FRANKINSTIEN-zx90]

She was nothing without Walsingham! Admired.

[@ShinkuRosetta]

Love doing this in ck3

[@rosecarlely750]

It's when Barbosa had joined the English king....😂😂😂 I mean queen

[@michaelwilkinson2928]

Superb script.

[@stuartshore]

Mm talk about a read, conviction of your own vanity!

[@Craigtuckett]

No. The people forget!!!🥶 #message.

[@WinstonSmith-mu7ku]

For drama, tension, resolution, economy of script, grand slam serving dialogue and sheer dread ("You were Norfolk, the dead have no titles."), there are not many scenes to rival this, it just stays in your mind.

[@kev3d]

That chick seemed juuuuust a bit unsurprised at the arrival of the men.

[@mariajukejax9649]

She was in on it.

[@johnherndonjr]

She was the one who exposed his betrayal.

[@kcooke00]

She was a spy planted by Walsingham.

[@autumnhomer9786]

🎀She was his lover but after being with him for so many years, betrayed him. After learning that he was going to replace her with another woman.🎀

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

@@autumnhomer9786 What woman? I love this movie, but I cannot recall him plotting to dump the pretty girl who was with him.

[@andreistoica2470]

oh great 9th doctor is in this too

[@petah-peoplefortheendlesst4668]

Problem with this scene is that Howard was actually a Protestant. Elizabeth had actually spared his life for his part in the Northern uprisings, but then it was clear he had to be executed for his part in the Ridolfi Plot. The only thing Norfolk was a martyr for was his own ambition.

[@TraciPeteyforlife]

Not even a martyr no one ever talks about him. Even during that time, he was just one more noble with a power play.

[@ageofechochambers9469]

@@TraciPeteyforlife lol you contradict yourself because your talking about him and he's a 1 main characters in this movies and any movie or TV series during these times . The Tudors died but dukes of Norfolk still are alive living better than they did , so I guess he won and Tudors lost . FYI he wasn't a protestant he was "raised as 1 " obviously as a child but it's fair to say to say him wishing to restore a catholic ruler to the throne makes him more catholic than protestant.

[@giltineful]

Exactly. His son, Philip Howard, was a real martyr for the Catholic faith.

[@stnicholas54]

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

[@KaitainCPS]

Huh?

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

hahaha well, if it was a king instead of a queen, probably would've inflicted the same punishment

[@robnewman6101]

High Treason.

[@nerva-]

Such a great scene, although I wish this video showed just another half-second of it, so you could clearly see that Geoffrey Rush was literally stepping backwards into the shadows -- unfortunately the entire video clip is fading out at the same moment, so the cool directorial choice isn't apparent.

[@cloudattack3279]

Rush was superb as Walsingham. He put so much more into the script that was given him. Walsingham was the complete warrior. The movie portrayed him as a sexually immoral in the scene with Mary. I don’t believe he was that way, he had a healthy fear of God as every true protestant does. The Catholics were terrified of this man, and for very good reason. Blessed Elizabeth was untouchable with him flanking the throne.

[@politereminder6284]

So weird hearing Eccleston speak in that accent

[@davidngubane8852]

what is this sound track playing from 00:00 to00: 10? I can't seem to find it anywhere

[@shannonmasing8190]

Night of the long knives

[@fadikhoory5350]

Domine Secundum Actum Meum

[@robnewman6101]

16th Century's so much suffering!

[@claus1225]

Dont know what Walsingham has over Norfolk's mistress. It cant be money or power.

[@a.m.308]

Neither. She's loyal to the queen. Hos before bros 😉💋😎

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

the queen has her old instagram/facebook posts back from high school

[@reallyhappenings5597]

His accent goes a touch Irish on the subject of martyrdom, always thought it was a minor flaw to the scene.

[@bobjones2460]

Wasn't he the guy who beat that young guy to death in the ocean?

[@NostalgicGamerRickOShay]

@@bobjones2460 That was Daniel Craig.

[@Ronald-ks2iy]

Funny, they did forget.

[@polidori99]

Great scene but unfortunately incorrect as Norfolk was a committed Protestant even though he came from a Catholic family.

[@southernbelle6200]

I think he was a fair weather Catholic/Protestant. Whomever was in power that is where that is alleged support went

[@TheMultisportGeek]

Get wreaked Norfolk.

[@robnewman6101]

Tower of London.

[@rekunta]

Did his mistress betray him? Why?

[@punch6832]

Charles P. “That’s the trouble with intrigues, isn’t it? With so many secrets you can never be sure who’s on whose side until the game ends.”

[@llee8825]

She was loyal to her queen.

[@johnherndonjr]

She was loyal to her Queen.

[@tommyzDad]

Because _she_ had the courage to be loyal.

[@johnherndonjr]

@AStoryGood Nope. She was loyal to her queen.