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@ArmenianBishop2 жыл бұрын
If I was sitting on a jury, in a modern day revisiting of her life, I would say, "NOT GUILTY."
@amylewis8646 Жыл бұрын
L0
@OusseniZongNaba-ch8cg Жыл бұрын
Zaz
@hakapeszimaki8369 Жыл бұрын
It was proved by historians that her trial was politically motivated.
@Tyrone-cd4ji2 ай бұрын
And you really believe this mental health condition couldn’t be possible and even more covered up due to her wealth and power ? This sort of thing happens even today with wealthy and just plain sick people ,just ask Trump about his buddy who mysteriously hung himself .🤣
@infasis Жыл бұрын
Watching this reminds me how much I miss when channels like the History channel, actually produced high quality, documentaries about history... Rather than Pawn Stars, Ancient Aliens, Ice Road Truckers, etc. There's a lot of great historical content on KZbin now, but I really just miss the high production values, I guess. (Though channels like this still do a great job, for what must be an extremely smaller budget.)
@vnchronicler5358 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the History channel is now the hillbilly channel. Sold out for ratings.
@vnchronicler5358 Жыл бұрын
All jokes aside, I've wondered what shows like ice road truckers has to do with history. Pawn stars and Ancient Aliens maybe more so, dealing with historical artifacts and speculation, but still..
@alphooey6 ай бұрын
You forgot Skinwalker Ranch. Miss the history channel
@diannemose2444 ай бұрын
Exactly
@josephmatthews76982 ай бұрын
Get off the internet Chumlee
@arlem525 Жыл бұрын
Probably the most unbiased recount of her life ever. Thank you.
@DarkSektori Жыл бұрын
Couldn't of said it better myself
@meganwynn372 Жыл бұрын
@@DarkSektori I lnow. i get all these folks trying to be objective, but... this was before the internet, and it is known the public may have been told she would be burned for witchcraft. but those murdered were relatives . cousins . I doubt it was usually daughters . no. they did much worse. nobles were not burned, traditionally, ? and it was too quick a death for her.
@jamessparks1836 Жыл бұрын
@@DarkSektori, I could have... I just choose not to.
@sandyjamison59292 жыл бұрын
It's ridiculous that the 2 men who benefitted from Elizabeth's troubles were also her primary accusers, both having specific reasons to elicit false testimony & "witness statements." Then, a relative of one of the men is the first to write about her "crimes" *100 years* later. I wonder how much more he embellished the story to further improve his status.
@hermanubis7046 Жыл бұрын
This was a common occurrence back then, that people who had grudges accused each other of witchcraft and things like that.
@nadiaevee Жыл бұрын
men only standing by women when they have something to gain from them???! shocker
@PungiFungi Жыл бұрын
They may have done away with her because of her lands and wealth but she certainly gave them a good reason to. Everybody yak about Bathory being targeted because she’s a woman but nobody talked about the nameless peasant girls she and her husband abused and killed. Even if 95 percent of her supposed victims were exaggerated, that still leaves her in the realm of 30, which still placed her in the top 10 of serial killer body counts.
@andreadevera89 Жыл бұрын
@@PungiFungiyeah it make sense
@PungiFungi Жыл бұрын
@@maniswolftoman whataboutism.
@jessfawkes57272 жыл бұрын
These videos are better than any documentaries shown on the tele. Well done and Thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
@prinzgerhard2 жыл бұрын
Greetings, Jess! How are you doing? I came across your channel here and I got interested to drop this comment on your post. I just want us to be friends. Let’s chat
@sidneygriffiths57372 жыл бұрын
Any relation to Guy? Lol
@jessfawkes5727 Жыл бұрын
@@sidneygriffiths5737 lol no my family looked it up on those ancestry websites and no we’re not lol x
@marcusjohnson13909 ай бұрын
For those that say: "I would loved to have lived when..."
@masonstauffer59742 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen of one of the most infamous women in European history.
@adab.36812 жыл бұрын
The pronunciation of the Hungarian, Slovakian and Czech names in this video is really good. Respect to the narrator :)
@vnchronicler5358 Жыл бұрын
Except for those of us who actually speak those languages fluently...
@judithhorvath8879 ай бұрын
@@vnchronicler5358 Good for you. Congratulations. You are fluent in many langyages. I think that the pronunciation in this video is far better than on most.
@MrsJBoddy9 ай бұрын
@@vnchronicler5358You are right.
@bonniebloom49534 ай бұрын
I agree. I was engaged into a Hungarian family where the language was spoken 50% of the time. We had Janos which was learned to me by the history of Hungary. The side words and their meaning still remind me of the past. The narrator is perfect.
@g.dalfleblanc634 ай бұрын
@@vnchronicler5358 You don't speak medieval Hungarian, Slovakian or Czech. The Bathory family are my ancestors and probably not yours. Show me five close genetic matches 2nd cousin or better to nobles named Bathory from the medieval Hungarian period. Your modern pronunciations are for the modern times not the late medieval.
@brigiish2 жыл бұрын
Listening to non-Hungarians saying Hungarian names/words makes me smile. Thank you for trying your best, feels good to hear my language being respected as such.
@David-pn7ghАй бұрын
Hungarian language seems to work at being unpronouncible. This guy did a pretty job of it.
@leanie52342 жыл бұрын
Ya gotta love how these lovely church men used brutal torture to find out if Elizabeth had used torture.
@massimoricciardi62022 жыл бұрын
Reason i denounced religion as a child when I first heard of these barbaric animals.
@Jerseyboondocks2 жыл бұрын
Not only that all the accusations might be false to begin with about her. There's men including her relatives could have paid off the priests and of course those men wanted her Fortune$$ What better way to get it.
@jonp38902 жыл бұрын
@@Jerseyboondocks I’m pretty sure that’s a much more accurate summation of what happened, rather than the legends that built up over the years.
@taebundy658 Жыл бұрын
Hypocrisy was around wayyyyy before religion and will be here for a long time to come. Too bad it isn't made aware to the poor saps involved until way too late
@taebundy658 Жыл бұрын
@@massimoricciardi6202 I've always questioned "organized" religion's motives for just about anything involving 💰💰💰and/or power so I can sympathize with a there. I can believe in God my own way but not made to feel like I'm gonna burn for making huge transgressions like wearing pants or telling my hubby to piss-off here or there. (Clutch the pearls!)
@Tugela602 жыл бұрын
Assuming that anything of this is actually true. Don't discount the possibility that all of this was made up so relatives could take her property.
@jamiemohan20492 жыл бұрын
Some of it was likely true. Exaggerated of course but true. The peasantry were complaining for years about her. The nobles who lost their daughters too. They can't all be liars. The Bathories had a genuine reputation for being cruel in general.
@Tugela602 жыл бұрын
@@jamiemohan2049 Yes they can. There were epidemics of witch burning in that era too don't forget, but witches don't exist outside of imagination. So all of that nonsense was made up and thousands of innocents killed.. There were no newspapers then, just local gossip over the garden fence that got more lurid with each retelling. If you behaved in the slightest out of what your neighbors considered ordinary then you would be subject to tales like this. And if you were prominent the stories would mushroom, with each variant of the original gossip becoming a "new" victim.
@susanmenegus55432 жыл бұрын
Good point. 👍
@debbylou57292 жыл бұрын
Oh, it’s true. All women aren’t victims. Most of us don’t appreciate your philosophy of women as weak victims
@debbylou57292 жыл бұрын
Sorry to reply again, but…she was torturing and killing girls from noble families for quite a long time before anyone dared cross her. You might want to take a bit of her self assurance for yourself
@gabork50552 жыл бұрын
Correction: The literal meaning of the word 'bátor' is 'brave', it has no connotations referring to the person in question as being good. The closest to what's described here would be the word 'vitéz' used to refer to soldiers/warriors with the connotation of the person being honored. (but still not directly good) Apart from the mythological explanation the family was named after the place Batur, present day Nyírbátor. The h and y were usually added to noble family names to add legitimacy with the archaic writing style and make the family name sound older than it is. Originally the dynasty founder taken up the name Bátori.
@mjcoronel612 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this insightful information.
@gabork50552 жыл бұрын
@@mjcoronel61 To add to this, though i'm not entirely sure but i think the TPP channel might have based this on the original name of the line 'Gutkeled', which includes the term 'good' but 'keled' just means 'curly haired' based on the German word 'klett'. There's also the German word 'held' which sounds similar to the original name of the Báthory family. Maybe that's where the assumption from TPP came from.
@ladyhonor822 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 💖 Philadelphia USA 🇺🇲☦️ AMEN
@connievino42268 ай бұрын
What the fuck does that mean. She gets to walk?
@connievino42268 ай бұрын
Nuts.@@ladyhonor822
@Jason-lw7tk Жыл бұрын
Excellent work! This was fascinating. I've always found Elizabeth Bathory interesting, particularly that there is so much myth and contradicting accounts of her in a time when superstition and chaos ran supreme. Well done!
@tomcat8983 Жыл бұрын
Trivia: No one used the term "serial killer" until FBI agent Robert Ressler coined it in the 1970s. But the term is a direct translation of the German term "Serienmörder" coined in 1930 by Berlin investigator Ernst Gennat.
@nicolasrose3064Ай бұрын
That doesn't mean Ressler took the term "Serial Killer" from the German "Serienmörder", it just means "Serial Killer" is the English "translation" of the German term "Serienmörder".... so what point exactly you are trying correlate is a mystery, you might as well just pick any random English term and announce that you've found the German translation...
@tomcat8983Ай бұрын
@nicolasrose3064 Well, I didn't come up with it since I'm not from the 1930s. So maybe you should ask the ones who came up with the words? This is sort of like, "I'm just the messenger, not the message." I'm just relaying the message in simple terms. Apparently, not to some.
@nicolasrose3064Ай бұрын
@@tomcat8983 You have completely missed the point of my comment, so... you've kinda walked in a circle straight into your "apparently not to some" reference..... You're "not from the 1930's"... no-one is trying to say you are, all you've done is zero in on "Serial Killer" and tried to fit a German translation to the term, it has absolutely zero relevance other than it being the translation of a term....."oh look, the term 'Serial Killer', ooo, I know, I'll make it look like it has a correlation between it, and the German translation and give it some vague relevance to the videos content...."
@nicolasrose3064Ай бұрын
@@tomcat8983 What has E.Bathory got to do with the German translation of the term "Serial Killer".... what exactly is its relevance, she wasn't German, lived in a completely different Century to Ressler, and why the insistence on the assertion that the term "Serial Killer" "is a direct translation of the German term".... seriously, the implication you are fabricating, is this fiction that Ressler "coined the term Serial Killer" as a "direct translation of the German term".....
@tomcat8983Ай бұрын
@nicolasrose3064 so your whole point is trying to make me look like an ass while doing the same to yourself, right? Apparently, you missed my point by a whole freaking mile.
@alc29662 ай бұрын
I LOVE these documentaries. I work from home and listen to various documentaries while working.
@eoindee70072 жыл бұрын
Only recently discovered your channel. It's exceptionally well researched and presented. Thank you for these outstanding videos 👍
@GTX1123 Жыл бұрын
The first mention of vampires in literature actually came hundreds of years before the 18th century. They are mentioned in Jewish mystical pietistic literature from the 13th century. These particular vampires are called "estries" and were said to be female. Many of their characteristics are similar to later vampire tales so it's obvious where the writers of the 18th century got their material from.
@SmokinZa6667 ай бұрын
Sounds little like a succubus
@scottshepherd1296 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely a great documentary and very well done. Most videos on this subject play out the horror to get people to watch and can't be bothered to do any real research on Elizabeth or her upbringing or family background.They go for body count instead of real facts. So thanks for doing a thorough job with the Family history and I applaud the narrator, well done and I look forward to seeing more from the channel, regards Scott.
@elliem4225 Жыл бұрын
Unbiased and factual, without excusing her.
@ChopBassMan2 жыл бұрын
Having watched various documentaries and read several accounts, I would think that Elizabeth Bathory was mentally disturbed in some sense, was certainly cruel, and may have killed quite a few servants, but the 600+ number of victims seems ridiculously excessive. She may have well been one of the first recorded serial killers though. Very good documentary! Thank you. 💕💞💖💀☠️💀🥀🖤🖤🖤🖤☕️☕️☕️☕️
@jimrustle33212 жыл бұрын
i would like to think she was framed and stories were made up so the theft of property would be legal.
@Clearlyclynn2 жыл бұрын
I learned so much from this video. I had once read that she killed 600+ people and was only found out when a servant girl escaped and that she would shove straws in girls arms and drank the blood. This video makes so much more sense and it’s crazy how things can be so grossly exaggerated. I had no inkling it could possibly be a way to grab power fr her.
@debbylou57292 жыл бұрын
She wasn’t a serial killer. Death was just a byproduct of her cruelty. And the number is close. She ‘disappeared’ hundreds of girls that she ordered to the castle. Only the ignorant claim land grab. It was only after she decided to go after the nobles’ daughters, and many of those, that the nobles felt there were enough of them to call for an investigation. She retained her holdings. She retained her castle and was treated exactly like she was before. Her uncle was king of Poland. Her family ruled Transylvania. Some recent professors are trying to make names for themselves on modern ‘feminism’
@daemonad2 жыл бұрын
@@debbylou5729 Well said. I live by the castle (Cachtice) where she was locked up. Naturally I've read many books about her, mostly primary sources. There is no question she was a sadist. Of course the numbers of her victims were exaggerated, everyone exaggerates, but I am more appalled by the 21st century bumpkins from across the continent who are sure she was innocent, even brilliant woman a martyr. It is sickening how history gets constantly twisted to support some contemporary western narrative that has nothing to do with Hungarian History.
@marthaperdew Жыл бұрын
This is awesome! I love this
@cplmpcocptcl63062 жыл бұрын
I know a lot from this time frame. Yet all of this was new and fascinating to me. Excellent upload. Thank you.
@roodbennett2 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU for giving, a more unbiased view of Elizabet Bathory. Love your channel 💕.
@PeopleProfiles2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@gaylesuemedley-barton42172 жыл бұрын
This was very well done, but I personally think it was far more likely that the king wanted not only rid of his debt to the Bathorys, but wanted all the wealth and lands. That's why they waited until her husband's death. I'm don't doubt that she was cruel and very mean to those she considered beneath her, but I really have doubts about her killing her servants.
@ArmenianBishop2 жыл бұрын
Verdict is: "Not Guilty!"
@8teezy Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if she killed them directly, but it is very possible that they died as a result of her cruelty. So many girls going missing at her home is suspicious and the fact that she changes her statement so much is even more so.
@crnabetty5891 Жыл бұрын
As I am watching your videos,Im just so happy that you spoke names and last names correctly. Just beautiful to hear
@vnchronicler5358 Жыл бұрын
Not even close to actual magyar.
@crnabetty5891 Жыл бұрын
@@vnchronicler5358 oh you should hear the others,this is honey to hear
@metalhead93152 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I became a huge fan of Eastern European Mythology when I was stationed in Romania for three years and I got to travel and see a lot of castles and historic places. Vlad Tepes was a complex figure and I always found similarities between him and Elizabeth Bathory, but wondered how they came about. You really explained it well. I always find learning the truth behind the myths to be rewarding. Thank you, for putting this video out. I really enjoyed it. Great research too.
@michaelwalcund75742 жыл бұрын
Hungary is not Eastern Europe. Eastern Europe means the semi-asian Orthodox civilization.
@cirmiz2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwalcund7574 tell that to Stalin... So Transylvania who is at the core of this story, when it belonged to Hungary was part of Central Europe but now because it is part of Romania it is on Easter Europe.
@archstanton4365 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelwalcund7574 Don't be so self conscious about it, nobody looks down upon you for being from Eastern Europe, it's the best part of the continent.
@IvanM-o3o9 ай бұрын
Vlad Tepes was not a vampire. Its a myth. He was just a cruel count that was impaling war prisoners, and implemented drakonian punishments to some of the citizens of his county.
@csabanemes9095 Жыл бұрын
A little clarification: Louis II of Hungary (Buda, July 1, 1506 - Mohács, August 29, 1526) King of Hungary and Bohemia between 1516 and 1526. The Jagiellonian II. Son of King Ulaszló and Queen Anna Candale. In 1508, he was already Hungarian, and from 1509, Czech king. He died in the Battle of Mohács in 1526. The 20-year-old young king died near Mohács, not his father.
@EternaResplandiente6 ай бұрын
Nice thank you
@benedekpali916 Жыл бұрын
well, actually we call the white-red stripes "Wolfszähne" or wolf tooths on the coat of arms of Báthory family. It apeares on almost all the Gúth-Keled clan (genus) members coat of arms and nothing to do with the dragon legend.
@LotusStitchandSketch2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if one of the reasons Darvulia was blamed for some of these crimes was because she couldn't actually be punished as she was already dead? Considering that she would have probably been burned alive as punishment for her role in this it might be possible that they felt less guilty blaming her since she was already dead so their words could cause her death
@futeramonfuturamet48302 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, Elizabeth was given a punishment that was much lighter than the usual burning at the stake. Her punishment was to be walled into her suite in the castle and fed regularly.
@Leifler2 жыл бұрын
Each level of confession involved maximum relevant pressure and blaming dead people. It's interesting.
@jimhaggard74362 жыл бұрын
Anna Darvulia was deceased at the time of Elizabeth’s arrest and trial 1610/1611. She may have been the most culpable, but two of the remaining accomplices were maximally punished, Ilona Joo and Dorothy Szentes. They had all ten fingers pulled out with red hot pincers and were later burned alive.
@MusgraveRitual2 жыл бұрын
Imagine torturing people to admit they were involved in torturing people. This was interesting angle from what you usually hear about Elzebet Bathory, and probably closer to the truth.
@Easy-xk5ce Жыл бұрын
This is nothing new or unique. That's what they did at those times. Torture was their interrogation.
@scottlantz12392 жыл бұрын
Great video. I had always assumed that Elizabeth was just a demented person. This video pretty much convinces me that she was set up do her wealth and power. She was clearly an easy target. Doesn't appear that there was much real evidence that she did any of what she was accused.
@jahnavi34222 жыл бұрын
Similar to how Catherine the great was defamed. She was said to be sexually promiscuous and even rumoured to have had sex with a horse using an intricate system of levers and pulleys. All lies ofcourse. She was a headstrong and powerful empress (though not without flaws) and the people around her couldn't accept that.
@tracylalonde49722 жыл бұрын
I agree. Taught me some new stuff. Always, happy to learn.
@terryhoath1983 Жыл бұрын
Scott, Be careful of loose language and throwing around diagnoses. Dementia .... Memory loss, difficulty communicating or finding words, difficulty with visual and spatial abilities, such as getting lost, difficulty reasoning or problem-solving, difficulty handling complex tasks, difficulty with planning and organising, difficulty with coordination and motor functions, confusion and disorientation. Which of those symptoms have you observed in Elizabeth's behaviour ? The most important lesson that we can learn from this excellent, well reasoned and presented video is that it is easy to throw mud, and once thrown, it tends to stick, regardless of the truth. I don't know whether Elizabeth did any of the things of which she was and is accused. I have never met her, you understand, so I keep an open mind. What we do know from a general study of history is that there are and have been large numbers of people with something to gain who have told the most appalling lies to obtain an advantage, even if it results in the death of totally innocent people.
@themuse11 Жыл бұрын
@@terryhoath1983 'demented' doesn't always correlate to 'dementia' the disease. de·ment·ed /dəˈmen(t)əd/ adjective 1. BRITISH behaving wildly and irrationally on account of anger, distress, or excitement. "a demented, dangerous, and sadistic Mafioso" Synonyms: mad insane deranged out of one's mind not in one's right mind crazed lunatic unbalanced unhinged unstable disturbed distracted as mad as a hatter as mad as a March hare stark mad non compos mentis sectionable crazy mental off one's head out of one's head off one's nut nutty nutty as a fruitcake off one's rocker not (quite) right in the head around the bend raving mad stark raving mad bats bonkers cuckoo loopy loony bananas loco dippy screwy with a screw loose touched gaga not all there out to lunch off the wall not right upstairs barmy batty crackers barking barking mad stark staring mad round the twist off one's trolley as daft as a brush not the full shilling one sandwich short of a picnic doolally up the pole away with the fairies buggy nutsy nutso out of one's tree meshuga squirrelly wacko gonzo bushed porangi Opposite: sane 2. affected with dementia.
@PungiFungi Жыл бұрын
Apparently looking into the Hungarian archives that contained documents of her "trial", which was sealed for centuries thanks to her family, did not exonerate her either.
@ludvercz2 жыл бұрын
I remember looking her up on youtube years ago just to be disappointed by the sensationalism. It's great to finally see that change, you have my like and sub. As for her bodycount and potential guilt; Ever since I learned what you briefly mention at 18:33 I thought the whole thing was bs. The woman was dealing with displaced populations including medical care, over a large chunk of a war-torn (literally into 3) country during cholera outbreaks and famine. Yet they couldn't find any physical evidence. How hard would it have been to fabricate some? Surely some of the people fleeing the turks who would later die under her care had suffered gruesome wounds. The medical technology of the time was practically indistinguishable from torture. And still, not a single mutilated body to support the narrative. No wonder she was never actually tried. Thurzó must've known he doesn't have a case.
@snicker576 Жыл бұрын
I think she did it.... why were the stories told if she didn't
@RockUnicornCorn10 ай бұрын
@@snicker576 They wanted everything she owned, because they were jealous weak men.
@snicker57610 ай бұрын
@@RockUnicornCorn I really don't that has anything to do with it. This person was deeply evil.
@snicker5769 ай бұрын
@user-gb8wl3kp3l I personally tend to believe the stories told about her
@chrisbartolini15088 ай бұрын
@@RockUnicornCornYou even look like a psychopath. I can see why you’d sympathize with a serial killer.
@beverlybalius93032 жыл бұрын
People at that time were just nasty and crazy,,,, I would have lived in a forest away from them all.
@skynebula11 Жыл бұрын
In my own experience as a young girl, I can tell you, first hand, that some wealthy women can be very mean. These women, with whom I dealt, were, no doubt, mean girls in their youth. At that time, I was quite attractive and very intelligent, even though I was unaware of my own potential during that period. Later, I did go on to acquire degrees in math and science, raise three wonderful children and become an accomplished musician. I am certain these particular women were jealous. In defense of women in general, most are quite kind, whether they are wealthy of not.
@Avanell Жыл бұрын
Fabulous discussion on the countess
@j.adammako4803 Жыл бұрын
Báthory Erzsébet was neither guilty nor blood thirsty sadist. She was the victim of a brutal powergame. Politicians will not stop to put others down, not in the time of Nero, not today, and they will never stop in the future either.
@davidanthonywalkerfinn89322 жыл бұрын
Much impressed by this very impartial account, and also by the narrator's excellent pronunciation of the various personal and place names; my feelings about Countess Bathory's alleged crimes is that they were totally exaggerated, but that there was, most likely some factual basis of a much lesser degree; unfortunately, we shall never know for certain now. Bit, overall, a very good management of a difficult subject.
@PungiFungi Жыл бұрын
Exaggerated or not, even if she had just killed one servant, she deserved to be punished accordingly.
@amy27ro Жыл бұрын
what do you mean, his pronunciation is atrocious.
@petrapetrakoliou8979 Жыл бұрын
The pronunciation of Hungarian names was actually a disaster unsurprisingly and I don't hold this against him, but the documentary was good as always.
@saravarga4474 Жыл бұрын
As a hungarian person, let me tell you, the pronounciaton was far from excellent. But also...hungarian is a really difficult language with unique pronounciation so I don't blame him. A+ for trying.
@spaceparrot8702 Жыл бұрын
His pronounciation of the names was very far from excellent. He also mixed up king Ulászló with king Lajos.
@ianmeadows6941 Жыл бұрын
People seriously debating her body count and whether she’s a wronged woman or not, meanwhile I’m simply smiling on how those families got justice for their daughters.
@tarotcudamla2 жыл бұрын
I think Elizabeth Bathory was a powerful woman who had many enemies. I watched every second and I'm a historian too..
@fatiht88632 жыл бұрын
I think the same as a history lover. It is the most believable option that some people wanted to reduce her influence and power.
@cuteladybug8622 Жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Bathory was a powerful, wealthy woman and therefore; a threat to the men in power. Did she abuse her servant girls? Yes. Was she a harsh employer to work for? Yes. I don't doubt it. But her treatment of the girls who worked for her wasn't unusual for that time. In fact, it was normal to slap servants across the face or beat them for dropping or spilling something. So while she was cruel to her servants, she was no different than anyone else in how she dealt with servants who had displeased her. But I think what makes Elizabeth Bathory different was that fact she was so powerful, and wielded so much influence, in a time when women; even women from powerful families didn't have much power of their own. The men in power used her penchant for cruelty as excuse to bring charges against her so they could bring her down and take everything she had.
@scottshepherd1296 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your comments about her and the men that accused her of these crimes also owed past debts to her family. So if she is convicted they don't have to pay her, they also remove a beautiful and intelligent Woman that was clearly a threat to them in that she had a mind of her own and wasn't intimidated by them.Take care regards Scott.
@TheDrepirela6 ай бұрын
Feminism at it's best right here...even mass murdering psychopathic women are victims of the patriarchy.. are innocent ... that's fucking scary thinking.
@karennorris78802 жыл бұрын
Not only did her accusers have means, motive and opportunity - there were also contemporaneous accounts of her kindnesses to poor women of the village. Which casts more doubt on her accusers. Also, if she had done such horrendous things, I guarantee there would have been an uprising of the villagers. They would not have stood for that. People tend to think of Monarchs as being all powerful, but their fates can be fragile indeed. Just think about Ann Boleyn, or Mary, daughter of Catherine of Aragon. Or Marie Antoinette and her husband - both killed by the mob. Cromwell and his son, put to death,The Tsar and Tsarina Romanov of Russia and their children. History is of full of stories about royals being conspired against and overthrown.
@ArmenianBishop2 жыл бұрын
Revisiting this in modern times, my jury Verdict is, "Not Guilty."
@Mycactus2611 Жыл бұрын
Excellent point!
@yuriyamazaki9094 Жыл бұрын
I have to say this is an excellent point though
@lukedaniels7750 Жыл бұрын
I think that almost none of your examples are as you think they are. Oliver Cromwell diedm of natural causes as did Mary as far as I recall. Anne was murdered by a strange, jealous husband. This lady might have been conspired against, or she might have been a bloodthirsty serial killer, or some ground in between these two extremes. We simply do not know.
@baliyae2 жыл бұрын
The perfect documentary to watch on Halloween!
@stacegageTWDfan2 жыл бұрын
So happy to see a longer, more in depth video about her!!
@CherryLipgloss1000 Жыл бұрын
Angry men set up Anne Boleyn for much less. I don’t think it’s far fetched to say they would do the same to this woman, even if she was rather cruel.
@ZsuzsannaBudapest Жыл бұрын
As a Hungarian woman, we remember Elisabeth Bathory as a talented woman, who did have epilepsy, had seizures. The rest is gossip and hunger of powerful males to use her to their benefit. She may have been a little too quick to yell at the woman who was combing her hair, but not enough to see her locked into a cell in her own castle till death finally took her home. I actually like this documentation for her better than what you hear often, that she bathed in the blood of girls to avoid growing old. She never lived to be really old.Thank you and good work.
@RoyKoopaling Жыл бұрын
Utterly ridiculous. Where do you think all the noble girls went? Did they disappear in a puff of smoke?
@MK356BC Жыл бұрын
She was a brutal, evil woman.
@jamiemohan20493 ай бұрын
How did they use her for their benefit? None of them ever tried to claim her land or wealth and her sons inherited everything with little question. Her sons got everything but she was very close to them even when imprisoned, so no way they did this to her and even ruin their families reputation. The woman was evil, the peasants were complaining about her for 10 years. She only got caught cause she targeted noble mens daughters. Were did the noble girls go? Her punishment was laughable. No man in this story benefited from these events.
@moatazyacour9971Ай бұрын
Girl jyst admitt she was an evil women
@ZsuzsannaBudapestАй бұрын
Elisabeth Bathory was mentally ill. Sadism. She knifed young girls until they bled out. Nobody complained for a long time because her brother was the king. Finally, she was stopped by walling her into a room in her own castle.We had so many great brave female leaders, warriors, and queens. But this horrible takes lives longest.
@karenannefromusa Жыл бұрын
An interesting way to get out of paying your debts. Maybe I should accuse my credit card companies of drinking the blood of their customers, but in a way, they do...🤣
@omila72 жыл бұрын
In her times, was it known how to stop blood from clotting? If she bathed in blood, they would need a lot of anticoagulants to prevent the whole bath tube from turning into one gigantic blood clot.
@allanjones30032 жыл бұрын
she more than likely "bathed" by rubbing the blood on her skin
@hesterwright36742 жыл бұрын
Eww.... scabby
@helenr43002 жыл бұрын
Good point
@elizabethmasseythesouthern69692 жыл бұрын
Actually with the amount of blood that it would taken to fill a bath, assuming that she filled the entire tub, it would not have gotten gelatinous for quite some time.
@Anya21084 Жыл бұрын
She would need to take a bath after that
@RobertJosefs2 жыл бұрын
Growing up in the 80s, I used to blast a song called countess bathory by venom. Black metal band. I had no idea what it meant until now. Holy moly
@milenadjordjevic7305 Жыл бұрын
This now, it's you. We love and support you so much 💙💚
@duchessstudioband789611 ай бұрын
Her name is well known. Some of the charges may have been exaggerated. However, she was cruel to her servants. There was a trial that was held. In the end, she was imprisoned in her castle. She could have been executed
@osonhodeleon Жыл бұрын
Another great documentary. Thanks.
@emperorofpluto Жыл бұрын
Fascinating portrait of a historical figure who may or may not have been the monster of legend. It would be helpful to have maps or other graphics to situate the events and set the historical context.
@dannybeun9482 жыл бұрын
Fantastic documentary 👌
@pigmanobvious2 жыл бұрын
I am always amazed at how these stories take root whether true or not. Just like Polish cavalry attacking German tanks in 1939 is believed to be fact when it actually never happened.
@stephanie4882 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Thank you for making this, it's good to hear the probable truth!
@rachelHursh Жыл бұрын
What a fascinating account of her life! You got a new subscriber! ❤
@aisbabyful Жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC VIDEO! Thank you for putting perspective on this much maligned historical figure!
@Enchantaire Жыл бұрын
- Elizabeth is accused of torture. - Accusation tears out fingers of witnesses with red-hot pincers and burn them alive. Ok...
@jasminemcelroy7717 Жыл бұрын
It was Ann Rice not Shelly Keller. If you researched it up to the modern area, you would have noticed that japanese culture also utilized the image in vampire hunter D..
@Flamsterette Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload!
@BAFFLED-u4o9 ай бұрын
I put nothing past these "elites" of the past or present.
@JH-sj4pf Жыл бұрын
Just because she was a woman also doesn't say she wasn't guilty. The notion that women couldn't possibly do something so horrific and that it's always some sexist conspiracy is in and of itself sexist.
@LisaSoulLevelHealing Жыл бұрын
How did it get so high? After 4 or 5 the locals should have started whispering.
@davidanthonywalkerfinn89322 жыл бұрын
O, and yes, one other comment needs to be made; despite medieval peasant scenes, that antedate Elizabeth by up to 200 years, again the presenters of this video must be commended for presenting her, (several times), through the only known real likeness, a very attractive portrait, to my eyes, taken when she was, I believe, about 20 years old. Other videos have gone overboard in this area, one actually showing an early likeness of Queen Elizabeth Tudor, as supposedly, Elizabeth Bathory.
@johnzeszut31702 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there an entire line of Elizabeth Bathory beauty products??????
@rachaelsnapp86542 жыл бұрын
"History is a tale told by the victors." Is what István Thurzó says in the movie The Countess and that's pretty accurate.
@fatiht8863 Жыл бұрын
They wrote though :/ Elizabeth is a vampire now
@rachaelsnapp8654 Жыл бұрын
@@fatiht8863 I hope that was sarcasm and that you realize vampires aren't real.
@meganwynn372 Жыл бұрын
it is not ever true , thats just what fools say when they hear harsh facts.
@meganwynn372 Жыл бұрын
i meant about history being written by the victor. There are never , any victors.
@millennialodyssey5956 Жыл бұрын
@@meganwynn372right I do get tired of that saying as if everyone alive is a "victor". Some historians were victims themselves.
@lovely1762 Жыл бұрын
This lady was the inspiration of Lady Dimestrcu from Resident Evil 8 and the tall lady from Japanese folklore. ❤❤😁
@grandpasad Жыл бұрын
These are well-done videos.
@David-pn7ghАй бұрын
This account of Elisabeth Bathory is probably the most objective I have seen.
@buhbuh9846 Жыл бұрын
This documentary is so good that I managed to listen to most of it without speeding it up and I have adhd.
@jddr555 Жыл бұрын
When you talk for example about Vienna I would like to see pictures of the city of Vienna rather than dogwood tree flowers. This would greatly help me to keep on track with all the information you are giving.
@M.E.ANDHistory2 жыл бұрын
Considering that this was posted on All Hallow's Eve, I must say that this is quite a good choice! As usual, well done!
@ccisthesekxs2 жыл бұрын
My favorite day of the year!!! ❤
@M.E.ANDHistory2 жыл бұрын
@@ccisthesekxs Same! The one day of the year where you can dress up as crazy as you want (outside of a convention of some kind, that is).
@SmokinZa6667 ай бұрын
Love these videos reminds me of videos growing up:) I literally learn more in these than I did in ever school
@iwatchDVDsonXbox3602 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Would love to see Stephen's biography.
@ladyhonor822 Жыл бұрын
I'm so enjoying the sunshine 🥰 AMEN Philadelphia USA 🇺🇲☦️
@FreeDustSpirits2 жыл бұрын
As one studying history, it was not uncommon in those times with inside/outside wars and murdering, conspiring and storytelling made all history even better, remembering my own skills in ghost story telling… -likewise- peoples psyche must have been in tune with a lot of cruelty death, lifespan was often harsh and short even in the elite. I really liked this video, looking at Elisabeth as monster or being set up, as you mention “ on the top you could get away with a lot” , - she might have been overly cruel but not 600 corpses…. ( the ways peps got executed in Middle Ages, was actually “ forced events “ you had to watch to frightened and keep you from rebelling. But inside the nobles themself killed and poisoned each other’s kids and family to gain power) … again Thank you … I’m a fan ❤️🇩🇰🤗
@Memelove69 Жыл бұрын
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@lindamckenzie65007 ай бұрын
Through out history the cruel and terrible torture that was practiced by so called religious people never ceases to horrify ...how anyone regardless of any faith could be so nasty to another human being is beyond belief.....
@carolinepirjak51682 жыл бұрын
Happy Halloween weekend 🎃🍂🍂
@elizabethmasseythesouthern69692 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video on my ancestor, The Countess of Bathory. There are some parts that have been embellished upon quite a bit and some factual information not spoken about but given that not everyone has access to private letters or diaries documenting Elizabeth’s morbid crimes, you have done a great job telling the tale. Even before I found out that my genealogy could be traced back to Elizabeth Bathory , I’ve always had a wicked curiosity and fascination with her story. Elizabeth was very much guilty of quite a few of the disturbing claims against her and some of the devices she used exist and are displayed privately and securely.
@veronicabargas6833 Жыл бұрын
Cool
@pauls63202 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentaries. Incredibly well researched and produced. Thank you.
@sophiacousland3452 Жыл бұрын
I don’t believe Elizabeth Bathory was completely innocent. Like many nobles of her time she was cruel and had blood on her hands, but the charges against her were definitely exaggerated with some likely being false. She had powerful enemies who were in debt to her and that definitely looks suspicious. Her accusers also used tortured in order to get confessions, while the norm of the time, definitely doesn’t leave a good impression. She is not the monster that she has been portrayed to be over the years, but I’m not quite sure that she’s an innocent martyr.
@ToneWoN2 жыл бұрын
Impeccable content as usual my friend, thank you so very much. 🤍
@Jette-sd5ks8 ай бұрын
To be honest, it's quite clear among historians that the harvesting of human blood has been a central part of some antiquated religions prevalent especially in societies of those particular regions. The legends may have their credence. Particular ancient societies, from which our Lady of Blood clearly seems to have descended, may have kept their old faith. We were not there in person therefore we can not judge for ourselves for certain. There have been nonetheless multiform reported the practice of collection of blood especially from young and innocent females, that would grant everlasting life once extracted and consumed. Yes, We can only speculate. Sweeping it under the rug of a cousin in debt may cover up this particular account nicely, but certainly not all of the others of which there are many.
@kirstyherbert2069 Жыл бұрын
My favourite of your releases. Absolutely fascinating. Thank you.
@zoltanperei4789 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for her Netflix movie.
@Renfair3332 жыл бұрын
So good to finally watch a balanced documentary on this, involving all the historical, political and religious context, instead of just the usual salacious stuff. I think the obvious conclusion, like Gilles de Rais and Anne Boleyn, is the boring one- it was a a stitch up; a means to an end.
@mikeveis639310 ай бұрын
If you participated in the peasant uprising, you got the hot seat.
@mishawhaldorf Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, I really enjoy your documentaries!
@sosoblackfeather Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this knowledge ❤
@aprilwhitaker98062 жыл бұрын
Years ago I was researching this to right a screenplay. I researched it for 2 yrs. Of course then my marriage fell apart and I never pursued it.
@terecee120411 ай бұрын
Fascinating, such a Gothic story.
@cdfdesantis6992 жыл бұрын
Always a fascinating figure, because so little IS known about her. The old saying, "Where there's smoke, there's fire", can't be ignored in this instance. The fact that so many young, lesser noblewomen died in her care lends credence to the accusations against her. The most logical conclusion is that she WAS a serial killer who was finally caught, & that her downfall fortuitously benefited her captors. They would have been quick to take advantage of any weakness discovered on her part, & so it was.
@Clairsmith1232 ай бұрын
Totally Agree, this is the Best explanation for All of this!
@cdfdesantis6992 ай бұрын
@@Clairsmith123 Thank you!
@mikewilliams44382 жыл бұрын
First class presentation, again! Keep it up Guys
@SarimFaruque Жыл бұрын
Mirror, can you tell me How to stay forever young? Let me know the secret I will hold my twisted tongue Please protect my beauty Velvet skin so pure and white Hear my name resounding Like a hymn at dead of night
@denizergun63252 жыл бұрын
She was born in 1560, how could she witness Medieval punishment? She definitely lived long after the Middle Ages.
@scottshepherd1296 Жыл бұрын
Even though she did live at a much later time as you said the use of torture and public executions unfortunately where still in use.Hope that helps, take care regards Scott.
@moldgrim17 ай бұрын
Kamelot (the band) has a song in three parts about Elisabeth. Must be this one. Saved to my watch later folder. Gotta see if they mention the songs :D
@shanechesnut Жыл бұрын
I'm getting pretty sick of youtubes attempts at rehabilitating the reputation of sick peoples reputations like this inaccurate documentary attempts to. Elizabeth Bathory was a monster. Even if she committed 1% of the crimes attributed to her.
@Ravenoflight2275 Жыл бұрын
It is so sad and sickening that she was setup and punished for only being a wealthy woman
@PungiFungi Жыл бұрын
It is sad and sickening that people are now trying to excuse her because she was a woman. It was a case of karma, she targeted girls beneath her because she could get away with it and in the end she became a target herself.
@pedrohenrique-et3fs Жыл бұрын
and im christian and dont take a position in both sides because lies exist, political conflicts exist, situations of limited resources exist, old hatred exist and myths exist.
@oswaldjankynz3978 Жыл бұрын
I love “Stay Alive”!!!
@geraldineparker883 Жыл бұрын
thank you for this
@learnedeldersofteemo89172 жыл бұрын
Awesome you are covering her, she was onto something for sure.