Elizabeth Holmes: Jobs in Federal Prison

If Elizabeth Holmes is sentenced to federal prison, she will be required to hold down a prison job, presuming she is medically able to do so. Her counselor will assign her job.
We encourage new prisoners to be proactive in looking for work. In other words, as soon as they hit the compound they should begin to network and learn about available--and more desirable--prison jobs.
To Ms. Holmes, if she is in prison and finds a job opportunity she can bring it to her counselor for approval. Most new prisoners, unfortunately, get their desired job requested denied.
Prison work assignments include almost every department in a prison facility, including food service, commissary, library, laundry, or warehouse. Other jobs include unit orderly plumber, painter, landscaper, or groundskeeper. Most of the hands-on jobs in a facility are in the hands of people serving time.
You would be wrong to think there is no competition in federal prison for the best jobs since people only earn 12¢ to 40¢ per hour for their work assignments, and basic pay is about $5.25/month.
In fact, people in federal prison compete intensely for the job assignments they think will work best for their needs. And what qualifies as the best prison job depends on a person’s likes and needs.
The highest possible pay is most attractive for some people because they have no family support. For others, working at the Recreation Department is desirable, even for basic maintenance pay, if the boss allows them to get their exercise in while at work! Others might want a job in the library when they are working on their legal papers or filing an appeal.
A popular view among many people in prison is that UNICOR offers more desirable jobs, as they offer higher pay and a wider variety of jobs.
In many federal prison facilities, new prisoners get automatically assigned to specific less desirable jobs, such as being an orderly in the bathroom or getting assigned to the morning shift in food services. Elizabeth Holmes will be no different--she will not get special treatment.
With all this background, here is a list of jobs for federal prisoners, specifically the federal prison camps (where Ms. Holmes is most likely to serve her prison sentence).
Head Unit Orderly:
The cottage maintenance staff or orderlies clean the dorms, bathroom, tv room, microwave room, etc. The head orderly works with the officers in charge of the dorms doing job assignments. Sometimes they can influence bed assignments, which are a big deal.
Food Services:
Good, dedicated cooks are valuable to staff. They are paid well by prison standards, well above maintenance pay. They may receive monthly bonuses, sometimes doubling their monthly pay. Cooks can get access to extra food occasionally, which they value. The prison hustle is an incentive for some.
Education:
Teaching a course is a good way to give back to the prison and also endear yourself to prisoners and staff.
UNICOR:
UNICOR is a desirable job since you can make more money. Some prisons have “factories” that create or build items for the prison but also for the federal government. UNICOR makes clothes, electronics, office products and much more.
Town Driver:
As the name suggests, town drivers in lower-security prisons and camps are trusted to drive people to doctor’s appointments, bus stops, airports, etc., as needed.
Staff Dining:
The pay is decent, but the big perk is eating from a different batch of meals. In some facilities, staff dining workers prepare the meals for the officers, including the Captain, Lieutenants, Warden. When they are good at the job, the officers appreciate them and want to keep them happy-potential for extra food, bonus pay, and access to prison hustle.
Commissary Clerk:
While many inmates get jobs helping dispense commissary, there are usually one or two spots for the clerks, who get paid more and work more closely with the officers. Commissary clerks can get first dibs on hard to get items, a big deal.
Laundry clerks:
Access to good clothes, bedrolls, tailoring, and other perks working in laundry makes this position desirable for many people. The pay is better than many other jobs, and the head clerk gets paid the highest.
Too many prisoners pay someone to do their job. I strongly encourage Ms. Holmes to do her job--even if that means scrubbing showers and toilets until she gets something more favorable.
Best,
Justin
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[@tracyterwilliger5629]

Can’t wait for the verdict! Hope we will hear before new year.

[@theresachung703]

I really respect your life lessons. I find huge value in how you are teaching others to take responsibility!

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

You’re kind. Really appreciate your comments. Thank you!

[@davidsoto4394]

Excellent video. I respect you sir because you are humble. If I were to ever be incarcerated in America I would focus on continuing my education.

[@davidsoto4394]

This is your best video.

[@barbthomas8783]

I really enjoyed hearing the details of how Holmes life in prison will be like. I was fortunate to spend only a few weeks in prison, of which 2 were in solitary confinement, and then with the general population. For a privileged person, like myself , not to be able to go outside and have air, and to watch the verbal and physical abuse by the guards of down-beaten inmates, was really horrible. I then experienced being with the general population, and was subjected to punishment, (24 hrs in your cell), for bringing food into my cell. Also shared a cell with a female sex offender, so did not sleep much, and was always cold and hungry. I wake up everyday so relieved that I am here, in a lovely living space with so much freedom....still no drivers license, nor car, but free to breathe the air and be outside.

[@JohnSmith-eo5sp]

So do you empathize with what Elisabeth may go thru IF she gets hard time?

[@barbthomas8783]

@@JohnSmith-eo5sp Hi John, I have been following this case and am deeply sickened by rich people thinking they can do whatever they want, regardless of the fallout to patients, employees, and lastly investors. Fraud over all those years is truly disgusting....like Bernie Madoff. So no, I have very little empathy for Holmes. I hope she is found guilty and her first job is cleaning toilets for 8 hours a day.

[@JohnSmith-eo5sp]

@@barbthomas8783 Thank you for your prompt response. After what Justin described in harrowing detail of what Holmes will go thru in prison, I almost feel bad for her! I had a few weeks in a maximum security wing of county jail here in LA. The Twin Towers as they call it. I hope for Elizabeth Holmes to start showing contrition asap! It would help her case and her cause to no end. I want her to be humbled, not to be abused

[@amandamcconathy]

what does that mean… “you shared a cell with a female sex offender so you didn’t get much sleep” were ya’ll fucking all day or something?

[@johnc2438]

@@amandamcconathy My guess is that the "something" was that she felt extra afraid to sleep in the same cell with her, fearing to be sexually abused herself.

[@tom6294]

I did pots and pans on KP in the Army. There was a never ending pile of greasy pots, pans etc. It wasn’t fun but it taught me that the food doesn’t magically appear

[@popquizzz]

Found your channel by accident but subscribed so I wouldn't miss out on this practical advice that can be applied to all means of life. I have never been in prison, spent a long weekend in jail one time due to me being ignorant and stupid and being charged with drunk and disorderly. Nothing is free in life and life has a way of finding a perfect balance. That balance may or may not always include me in the equation and the equation may never work out in my favor, but I know the only way to survive is to move the chess pieces on the field of play, so things land in my favor if possible. Power is elusive and is often defeated in terrible ways, but success through pragmatic knowledge and application will often lead to long-term positive results. Your advice in these videos follows these principles and is welcome, and I thank you for your continued contribution.

[@nicholamc2629]

Love your humility and your vids! I hope you have a lovely Christmas and New Year. Love from Irish in London ❤️

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you very much for your kind message. And I appreciate you contributing to our channel. Happy holidays to you and your family!!

[@peruvianauthorities1739]

Holmes may have gotten into Stanford but too bad she wasn’t smart to incorporate morals and values into her life! Her business plan and fund raising included lies and deceit. She intentionally lowered her voice in order to be taken seriously. Maybe her baritone voice will be enough to protect her from the mean old hardened criminals looking for a physical fight. What do the likes of Clinton, Schultz, and big money investors think of her now?! Btw, you're coming across as her resume writer - as well as her motivational role model. "Dignity in tact?" "Hidden benefits to this prison experience?" Holmes should be ashamed of herself - and take a good look at who she is and what she has done - and just simply wake the heck up and turn her life around! She needs to go from living a life of lies and deceit to an asset to society!

[@MrShobar]

Henry Kissinger was also involved. So was Gen. Mattis.

[@raindogs451]

Sir, very genuine and likable. Its clear you’re a fundamentally decent guy who screwed up, owned it, and paid the toll. Kudos for remaking yourself and being a credit to the community.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you so much for your nice words. It took some time to own it, but I am sure glad I did. Happy New Years!

[@raindogs451]

@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial you too!

[@MG-xy2sd]

Another great video sir. Like you, I started I the kitchen, but quickly moved into education. I also helped people with GED prep, and business plans. This was as helpful to me as it was to them, because it helped fill up my day.

[@marivipalomino6975]

I really appreciate that you're so open about your past experienced and that jail time made you develop your humanity. Great example that some people do deserve a second chance.

[@smilemor-phony5964]

Everyone deserves a second chance. Not some.

[@Chefsandrajm]

Glad I was recommended to you interesting content thx u

[@melaniethomas8401]

I appreciate that you own your thoughts and actions of the past and how those decisions affected other people.

[@antarjones7888]

What a great attitude! Do you feel that your prison experience and your hard work there has purged any character flaw that may have brought you to prison? Or do you have to still work on it?

[@paulinebradleycarroll7745]

Extraordinary commentary. Thank you. Happy Holidays!

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you!

[@myu2b]

Great series Justin, I enjoy every video. I could be wrong but you may have the camera set to Auto white balance as the picture is changing from cool to warm and back.

[@Kawiboy]

Doin last minute everything but catching up now 🤪👍.. Merry Christmas 🎄 🎅 Justin 👊.. Appreciate ya providing us fantastic content all year 👊😉.. Regards, Old G 🎅

[@APizzaDriver]

I have a female childhood neighbor in state prison. She facilitated a murder for hire and got LWOP. I actually went and visited her some years ago when I thought she had to be innocent. (She isn’t, I now believe). Prison is much more difficult than I ever could imagine. She can have NOTHING unless it’s a book via Amazon. She is not well liked so no one will do anything for her. To see someone in her then-30s with every advantage now facing 50 years of Groundhog Day…Elizabeth should keep her head down and airs well hidden.

[@smilemor-phony5964]

You're one cold, judgemental Pizza Driver. You're day's coming...

[@PungiFungi]

@@smilemor-phony5964 even a pizza driver does more honest and essential work than Liz Holmes have ever done.

[@smilemor-phony5964]

@@PungiFungi - true. It's just too bad what EH was allowed to get away with and for so long. Her guilty verdict a complete injustice.

[@smilemor-phony5964]

@@PungiFungi - it's Pizza Drivers character assassination against someone when he has no idea what was going on inside the head of the women in prison. Pure judgement, speculation. Nothing more than a narcissistic, ego driven comment on his part. I found it disgusting.

[@hellothere4724]

As a retired fbop SOE…I would like to give a shout out to all the awesome orderlies and clerks I worked with in my 26 years. Some of the best workers and most creative people I have encountered…lots of talent languishing in federal prison.

[@ChairYogaForTheAgeless]

The place I worked at had a prisoner hire program for prisoners who were about to get out and I found them the hardest workers I had ever been around and I made sure they knew that.

[@sweetcandy1005]

Thanks very much for this video. Really fresh perspective about this case. People usually talk about the verdict and sentences, but what exactly will be happening is usually unclear. Thanks for clearing the doubts about the next steps EH may possibly be facing if found guilty.

[@custer2449]

Logical. ty Justin.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

You’re welcome. Thank you.

[@youlandergreene5018]

I really like this channel

[@seattlejayde]

Happy Holidays my friend

[@gerry2345]

I like this vid. Good insight..

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you!

[@rgtinkess]

Firstly, Merry Christmas. All the very best to you. I am wonder often about what I think of as the potential for "revenge assignments " by the state for high profile inmates. You note that incoming inmates are assigned jobs...is this a a random assignment or is there some sort of set bit of reasoning here. Do those in charge match a notorious or high profile inmate to either an intentionally nasty low paying job or otherwise to make a point about that individual. I am half thinking aloud...forgive the rambling...you always raise such interesting points to ponder! Again, Merry Christmas

[@laurenkennedy-smith6543]

Wishing you all the best this holiday season.

[@bettyboop-xg6jo]

You know what, I get lots of value out of your vids, on a philosophical level. But I do think it is maybe time to stop beating yourself up. You did the time and now it's done. Happy holidays and thanks again for the time you give to us.

[@katrinastrub1255]

Can you please put information about these 2 men's camps if you can? Duluth and Morgantown? Those are the 2 we are asking the judge to recommend for a family member to be sent. Thanks!!

[@orangejulia2705]

Is there a link to that book you mentioned?

[@marsie3265]

Thanks for sharing your story with us. I can see the humility and personal awakening you’ve experienced. You tell me…. Would you do your prison time again just to have the inner freedom your introspection has manifested in you ?

[@ChairYogaForTheAgeless]

Your post is one of the most intelligent insightful questions I have read in a long time Also probably the most difficult to answer. I once asked a similar question to a prisoner who got out, but I asked him if he gained some things from the experience., not nearly as deep as yours. Thanks !

[@beachbum1523]

Gee! Maybe while Liz is away, they can train her to become a prison phlebotomist. 😁

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

I have no idea what that is?!?

[@missmelodius]

@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial the phlebotomist is the person who draws blood for tests like A1C or cancer. Ironic.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

@@missmelodius I have accomplished my goal of learning something new everyday!

[@crime_cat3973]

I find it hard to believe Elizabeth Holmes going to prison. I think she'll somehow pull her dirty strings and get away.

[@mgee7837]

Can you discuss the different types of prisons Elizabeth may go to depending how long her sentence is?

[@beachbum1523]

According to televangelist Jim Bakker, (federal) prison administrators have a propensity for assigning toilet scrubbing duties to celebrity prisoners. That was =/- 30 years ago, so things may have changed. Bakker said that his work assignment usually took an hour or two each day.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

It has not changed…

[@Paul-ou1rx]

The rules and supervision are so lax that the guards don't know if someone else shows up to do a job assigned to someone else?

[@GRUBB-MUDD]

Where r u getting your b-roll?

[@nickush7512]

Good on you Dude.

[@AAbreu004]

I worked the kichen mainline for 3 month in Estill,SC Federal Prison.

[@missmelodius]

Elizabeth Holmes should focus on finishing her college degree.

[@leomik5193]

LoL, should get the worst job possible.

[@dawnprueter9327]

How many years is an average stay in federal prison?

[@777jones]

inspiring to think of how Holmes can reform as she rips down her former, criminal personality, having been rejected by society. It’s time to throw away that old personality, Elizabeth. Time to become a grown up.

[@DS40764]

People put their work onto you in the normal population, this must be greatly exaggerated in prison sometimes. It will be tough for her, unless she assumes a position like teaching (which would be her best bet helping others get their HS diploma.) That also might be rewarding for her. Maybe something like sewing too, where she uses her mind some.

[@harrisonskelton6934]

It's not embarrassing to clean dishes. I bought a house that didn't have a dishwasher so I clean my dishes by hand same when I was a kid when the dishwasher broke cleaned the dishes by hand for a while. It definitely builds character.

[@beckiireland4720]

What am I missing? Did you change the name of your channel?

[@tiffsaver]

During her term in federal prison (which is hopefully for many decades), she should put her talents to best use, stealing the other inmates' money to create her new startup company when she is released.

[@derekcho2312]

I volunteered at St Anthonys as a Buffet Line Server. Physically couldn't handle a full shift, extremely hard work. It was the mashed potato detail that buried me. That is my wish for EH.... or the toilet duty.

[@JohnSmith-eo5sp]

So you want Elisabeth to suffer do you?

[@derekcho2312]

"In the context of" doing time, hell yes I want her prison time to equal the thousands of EH immoral acts. Her acts include a contribution to the suicide from a guy she worked closely with for a decade, with zero condolences sent to the family. I saw that once in my career, Lawyer facing disbarment and prison for something his client did. I am glad Michael Cohen survived, evil *hits need to be in jail (DT)

[@shannonjarvis2915]

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[@grandparachojordanov6492]

Hello, I have been ordered by the judge to tell 200 people what I did to go to Federal prison. Can you help me? Thanks!

[@SammyNeedsAnAlibi]

I applaud not only your informative vids, but also your humility about the whole prison experience. Most folks I know get out and whenever anybody ask them about it, they say "I didn't do it- a lawyer f-d me" or some other lame excuse rather to own-it like you do. I also admire your brutal honesty, but caution you- I wouldn't tell my wife that I loved doing pots and pans let alone the whole world on youtube! 😁 Until next time, Happy Holidays to you and yours.

[@lisanorris6518]

I have a friend that is in state prison for the rest of his life for double murder. So I am interested in learning about life n prison. I have enjoyed every video I have listened to. Thank you for your service to people that are going to Federal prison.

[@MsRotorwings]

Federal prison is very different from State Prison.

[@MrCarguy427]

What are fed camps like nowadays with Covid?

[@janfilips3244]

So what do you expect the verdict to be?

[@pete6705]

If she were to be found guilty, and then she appeals, does she stay out of prison until the appeal case is over? Or does she have to report to prison and manage her appeal case from behind bars? I imagine the appeal process could take a very long time

[@ShakespeareCafe]

She can train guide dogs at Bryan despite losing her husky Balto to a mountain lion

[@thisisanaussiegal3590]

I fear for this case... she may just get away with it :/ I hope she'll be found guilty of at least one or two of the indictments... but jeeesh.... It's a hard one to call.

[@johnpetrig8797]

Town driver average time before they screw up and end up in the SHU about 6 months.

[@mervynmccracken]

Given that Holmes is considered a sociopath/psychopath type??? How do you think she will respond to prison life......

[@JohnSmith-eo5sp]

Considered, and not diagnosed! Elisabeth Holmes is a human being. Considering her priveledged background I'd guess she won't hold up well doing hard time.

[@hellothere4724]

Holmes will probably be s ged tutor or law library clerk

[@destroyingtheworksofthedev9349]

Was she offered a plea deal?

[@annmarie6870]

I really want to work in a prison.

[@nicholasrose482]

I did 22 months, worked in the kitchen was just glad to get out of my cell.

[@SopwithTheCamel]

Its a big IF. a few months at most.

[@Chefsandrajm]

Yes kitchen work is hard!

[@sinebar]

I wonder if they have one of those Edison blood analyzers in the infirmary? She'd be a shoe in for that job.🤣

[@bertrandoriot6285]

The best gift you can give to a person is a mirror. It seems like you have spent sometime on the front of it. I command you for your transparency, humility and humbleness. Refreshing to say the least. Now about Elisabeth I m not worry. She will survive. You don’t grow a twisted empire and give up cleaning a toilet bowl. Her true problem is not the jail. Raising , educating your own kid is the worse sentence she will get and I m sorry for the kid.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Thank you very much for your kind words and happy holidays to you and your family. It took years to look within or look into the mirror, but once I did my life began to change. I wish I had done it sooner.

[@pumalogo204]

out of 11 charges..she only got convicted on only just 4??? that's insane!!!

[@ThePositivewave]

Can a inmate buy the amount of stamps or email minute as much as they want?.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

You are only allowed to buy three books of stamps a week. The prison sets limits because they know prisoners use the stamps as currency in the underground economy. To email, it cost five cents a minute. Prisoners have a lot of access during the day to the email machine. Please note, not all prisoners have access to email.

[@ThePositivewave]

@@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial thank you, I am thinking of corresponding with an inmate. I wonder if it's a good idea or a waste of time.

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

@@ThePositivewave if the prisoner is proving worthy of your support do it!!

[@ChairYogaForTheAgeless]

So what if , while in prison she discovers a cure for cancer ? If she can get the guards and the Warden to invest , will she get some time off of her sentence. ?

[@SKYRIDGENIGERIANDWARFS]

She has no skills - she is a fraudster

[@ChairYogaForTheAgeless]

@@SKYRIDGENIGERIANDWARFS Isn't being a fraudster a skill. Not everyone can do that.

[@marivipalomino6975]

I see her inventing something to allegedly benefit her inmates and rising funds among them to carry out the project.

[@ChairYogaForTheAgeless]

Great that is what I said

[@IdeologieUK]

Other than Silicon Valley, federal prison probably won’t accept her qualification as a college dropout, so it will likely be a menial job. She likely won’t be the local Andy Dufresne 😄

[@IdeologieUK]

@@1windyoldbird no, I think the baby daddy is going to raise the kid. Wow, what a strategic pregnancy - I wonder if she got pregnant to get jury sympathy, or to endure she had a child in the event of a long incarceration.

[@zigmonger6646]

Make note that she (or anybody) best slow their roll when they first arrive and see how the politics are and maybe educate themselves on the notion of 'stepping on toes' because good jobs are usually coveted by inmates serving longer sentences or idiots who are bullies

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Well said.

[@Elizabeth.C.Holmes]

It's super fun having the name of a criminal (alleged).

[@WhiteCollarAdviceOfficial]

Now that is super interesting. That would be a great interview!

[@roberth3094]

If They can send Martha Stewart to prison then they should have a cell for her.

[@gmcenroe]

She will be looking for a job doing voice overs with her deep voice .

[@louiselanthier5135]

I hope Elizabeth goes to prison and learns lots of new stuff!

[@ewtwetrwerwteet]

She can create the nanotainer and Edison 2.0, it can analyze piss and shit instead.

[@JPJ740]

... bucket & mop in the latrines ....

[@healthright3657]

She’s guilty on 4 counts. What do you think time wise for her? 🤔

[@jcmoye1]

Why are people working in prison😅 I would do shit if if I was in prison

[@kentharris7427]

IMO If she is sentenced she will just rent a jet and fly to Monaco. By her actions she is playing a game of scapegoating and will not take any responsibility for her actions. You took responsibility for your actions and you are a better person for it.

[@bettyboop-xg6jo]

Well she may fly somewhere, but it will not be Monaco. Monaco requires a clean record and a specific certificate. Controlled by the French. So don't say bull$#.

[@kentharris7427]

@@bettyboop-xg6jo I was using that as an example. I don't break the law so not up on local laws of certain countries.

[@jonbarnard7186]

I wonder if a psychopath is capable of stoicism?

[@michaeldiesel3688]

Click bait

[@roberth3094]

You see how her defense has her looking? Little to no makeup, unkempt hair. The exact opposite of her high on the hog days. You can see right through that.

[@stevesteve7175]

She can teach how to cheat.

[@roypatterson7866]

She has be convicted!!!!

[@andreagriffin8437]

She has hired people and provided jobs.

[@mikedennington8856]

Thought she was pregnant so will not get too much of a job.

[@SKYRIDGENIGERIANDWARFS]

She has. Had a baby already

[@mga2899]

C'mon Justin. Not nice to repeatedly cash in on another's misfortune. You treat your convicted clients with great respect. Fair enough, but have the same consideration for those that are still innocent.

[@Hopewell51]

Dude stop sucking up to the system. Teach people to fight the system. To fight the guards, make staff lives horrible. Teach people to find cops on the street and harass them and degrade them once you are out to show that you will never forgive or forget.

[@JohnSmith-eo5sp]

You'd make an excellent gangster