Elizabeth Rata On How Ideology Has Influenced Teaching Standards

[@djangor4969]

Elizabeth you are a very knowledgeable person with good common sense. Thanks for hanging in there for the sake of our children's education despite all of the woke ideology and mindset of the political left that has hamstrung the education system in New Zealand for at least a decade. I appreciate your input. Please don't abandon ship now.

[@MichaelLaw-t1c]

Michael thankyou for having Elizabeth Rata on the show.What a breath of fresh air. Keep up the good work. Ditch the ideological propaganda be it left,right,race theory. The educational curriculum must be provable and truthful based upon facts, geographical records. Lets get back to teaching out children how to annalise and think.

[@davidburns6956]

Education in New Zealand has been subsumed by ideology. By critical race theory, DEI., decolonization and gender and personal identity. This is regressive and corrosive for young minds, implying both guilt and shame. Parents are terrified of the zealots in education and are trending to the right. We may point to the U.S. elections where an old white man (racist, misogynist, felon), won overwhelmingly against a young, black, female, left candidate. Drop the education teacher training colleges and apprentice teachers directly to schools and allow a true diversity of critical opinion, including conservatives, Christians and those not aligned to leftist radicalism.

[@matthewdonoghue321]

Very well said... except... Trump is neither racist, nor misogynist, and as for the felon one... he may have been convicted but nobody can name the crime he committed. Lets start with the first one... what has he said or done that is racist?

[@groovejets]

A friend of mine took her daughter to a school on the North Shore to preview it as her future intermediate school. The mother thought the school seemed ok. The daughter however came out the school and told her mother it seemed like the school would receive her better if she was gay or transgender. She was uncomfortable to go to the school as she did not identify with the forced and seeminlgy extreme identity politics the school pushed at the open day. It is sad that we are forcing this weird thinking on our kids. It’s a parent ideology and agenda we are forcing - the average child does not want it to cover their entire existence. Obviously we all accept gay people - but we don’t have to focus on it in every aspect of school life. Funny enough the kids are already open and accepting of homosexual and other minority identities the schools push so hard. The forcing is not really required.

[@henrybarker1159]

Well said. It is quite noticeable how stupid and indoctrinated the young generation has become.

[@PaulHarris-w6z]

Yea, why can’t these new teachers think for themselves, are they that stupid…..god help the next generation

[@johnhewson8478]

Yes so true, all you have to do is look at the green party for confirmation of that fact.

[@groblerful]

We need to teach people how to think, not what to think.

[@rebeccamarcelo9461]

Sounds like you are part of the problem. Kids need to be taught the basics of english, math, science first. What use is thinking if they have no knowledge?

[@groblerful]

well obviously they need the basics before they can start thinking.@@rebeccamarcelo9461

[@groblerful]

Of course we need to teach the teach the basics first.

[@johnburnett3942]

I'm so lucky to have finished schooling in the 1960s.

[@Ps119]

A rarity these days; a professor who is in touch with reality and knows what she is talking about. Good on her and may she help get the education system educating again.

[@seanodwyer4322]

her mom was a sister nurse,.

[@56redgreen]

She is past retirement age and in a senior position, few in NZ let alone Academica would expect to have a career after knocking the liberal group think.

[@seanodwyer4322]

@@56redgreen Notice she loks like micheal Jackson , because her dad is part negro. He was a Big man who ahh knew in hawkes bay

[@questor55]

I was in highschool until the late 80's. It took me most of my lifetime to look back at the English reading curriculum to realize how every work was put forward to further social change before anything else. Death of a Salesman, Catcher in the Rye, To Kill a Mockingbird, Sylvia Plath. American social criticism. Never any focus on the heroic narrative. I look back on this stuff with contempt.

[@djangor4969]

IE, brainwashing and indoctrination!!!

[@StGammon77]

Elizabeth is a living bank of truth

[@philipferguson8570]

Elizabeth Rata is very good. I say that as an old leftie.

[@donna6806]

yes please Elizabeth

[@Phil-oj5nr]

Paying top salary to teachers who get results. But the Unions won’t agree. So we are left with a number of teachers who shouldn’t be in front of a class. When I went to a secondary modern school 1957 to 1960 it was heads down and work hard. Looking back, despite the ravages of war, I think in those days in UK gave me a very solid grounding for the world ahead. I can still remember hundreds of times in class when not only did I learn something new, I knew how to apply it once I left. It has held me in good stead all these many years, and my thirst for knowledge has never wavered.

[@davidburns6956]

Paying teachers according to being 'top' as you put it, is dependent on what is used to indicate success. Present high school education is about achieving a standard. In the humanities (English, history, philosophy etc.) the emphasis is on process rather than content. Thus the simplest route with the simplest material is used to achieve a pass. This gives the school good ratings and makes it look successful. But the content may exclude anything of any real complexity or critical, individual thought. Both Shakespeare and film are texts in this regard and one is certainly easier to teach and receive a pass than the other. So the simpler route is more successful given the system. In effect, you are rewarding teachers who teach mediocrity successfully. While those who extend and educate with more complex material risk being regarded as failures.

[@davidburns6956]

We were also beaten...

[@hariseldon3786]

Don't teach them ideology as it uses up time at school - they can work that out for themselves ONCE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE AN EDUCATION.

[@Hawthorn-nz]

Get that Maori content out of the curriculum! All cultural activities and teachings are the responsibility of the parents.

[@ideaWorld403]

100% agree! My kids school- an affluent public school- are spending a lot of time and money (resources that should be put towards core content and teaching) integrating Maori and Maori cultural practices into all areas of rhe curriculum. It's nuts. NZ public schools should be culturally egoistic. I have no problem with my kids learning some Maori language in the context of a one hour Maori language class, but the constant push for integrating it theo7gh all areas of the curriculum is not what I signed up for.

[@bobherbert4365]

Classroom discipline and healthy functioning families. This is what they need.

[@ideaWorld403]

The new govt has to quickly get on to amending the MOE requirements to public schools, one of which is giving effect to the Treaty. Beyond that MOE also mandates to schools to integrate Maori and Maori cultural practices into all areas of curriculum. These requirements provide cover to ineffective and ideological school leadership who want to ram Maori language and cultural practices into areas of kids learning where it has no business being. Teach the kids Maori language in the context of a single Maori language class, remove any cultural practice that is at odds with going to a public school, and lets get back to giving our kids a robust school experience where teachers are focused on the important stuff and not the spcial engineering going on currently.

[@sueedwards9334]

I'm afraid Elizabeth is dreaming if she thinks teachers will be happy to adopt a 'direct teaching' approach after decades of indoctrination that inquiry learning and student-centred learning are the only way to teach. Many of them will also be seriously, and rightly, worried that they do not have the knowledge to actually teach children!! It will be a huge task to turn the ship around, but I hope they can do it!

[@paulwoodruffe1474]

Teacher unions are the problem.

[@shiftleft]

and the MOE.

[@peterrobb4675]

2 weeks ago my 10 year old son had his learning paused so that the teacher could explain to the students what the hikoi was about and that David Seymour was a racist.

[@valeriehughes1008]

The teacher should be dismissed... teachers are suppose to educate not indulge in social engineering and push their personal political views. they are suppose to be non bias.

[@Dis-xxx]

Disgusting

[@djangor4969]

Like someone else said before, we need the right sort of people in front of a classroom of kids, that is, knowledgeable people that teach the curriculum and dont bring their political barrows to dump at school.

[@northislandguy]

That’s a rubbish teacher Teachers should always be apolotical

[@MrHPlays]

File a formal complaint with the board, then the teaching council. Teachers are absolutely are not allowed to do that.

[@groovejets]

This is a critically important video. Every teacher I speak to is miserable with the woke approach that is collapsing around them. Many are sad they have to raise their kids here.

[@hoppynaki]

Great idea. How about paying these teachers appropriately.

[@shanecollie5177]

What would you consider appropriate?

[@gymwithrhythm]

Great idea. Forget the 175 billion debt; demand cash out of thin air or international banks. How's your export profile? Are you helping?

[@kaimirosteve]

Perhaps start by weeding out woke ideologues from teaching ranks

[@evacraig1415]

As a high school teacher myself, a new teacher at that on the lowest income rank, eachers actually get paid a lot more than a huge amount of other skilled jobs - I started at 62K a year! More than I've earned before, and the pay goes up each year for a few years - to be fair I think teaching is a very tough job, but the pay is definitely enough to live well enough on. However, the struggle is that there are not true punishments for students who don't want to do any work or want to misbehave ignoring school rules, and young people are struggling with motivation because their phones make them think only now and next , not future purpose, and their families don't support them in thinking bigger and aiming high either. They're not grateful for education, they would rather be at home gaming, especially boys, there are only a few students in class who are actually pushing hard to learn, who work well in traditional school system and who have goals for their lives, max 3 students per class from my limited experience so far.

[@shanecollie5177]

No reply i notice, my wife is a primary school teacher at the top of the pay scale, with one management unit, her salary is $103,000 P.A which is about to increase. She believes she is well paid, and enjoys 12 weeks holiday per year.Why do you think this is not an appropriate remuneration?

[@Ao456kl]

I see Michaela School run by Katherine Birbalsingh has just posted the highest results in all of the UK for the 3rd year running

[@johankaarekarlsen1383]

It would also be helpful if some of our immigrants had a basic understanding of New Zealand and a better understanding of our spoken English language and cut back on immigrants from Asian countries like India, China, etc.

[@ala-hc4rx]

@@johankaarekarlsen1383 talk to some of them because I do.they are all escaping either bad financial situations or cultural problems.they all come to nz for a better life and are horrified at the woke education system ,high crime and the weakening of our democratic system.most of them are totally surprised at the generous social welfare system but rather than go on the dole they do jobs that most kiwis don't take up.

[@mervynpeka]

I was a tutor to my children in Sydney. They both ended up being doctors. Why? They happened to like a comedy called scrubs, a sit com in a general hospital....that program took over from law and order as their most watched. You never know what influences a student.

[@dave9547]

Hope they didn't push the vax/quackcine like nearly all other doctors.

[@RalphRichards-o7e]

We need to pay our teachers more and do better training them . The ciriculum is only as good as the teachers delivering it

[@Ps119]

problem with this idea is that most teachers are worse than useless so paying them more makes no sense. Need real teachers not the current batch of leftards hell bent on training our children to fail.

[@djangor4969]

Teachers are like car drivers, the more with it and skillful the driver, the safer the passengers and other vehicles.

[@annikafunnell8982]

Inquiry learning only works with a very low child to teacher ratio.

[@toycollector10]

When I was learning that way the class was around 25 pupils. We were disciplined and that's how it worked. The Marxists have removed all semblance of discipline and what you have now is every third child with some sort of acting out syndrome or ADHD or similar. Virtually unknown to me 65 years ago.

[@DownUnderWarboss]

We need to compete with the Eurasian powers and this is their teaching method.

[@dadcooks1347]

Teaching has become how to make kids think certain things, rather than how to think for themselves.

[@johankaarekarlsen1383]

Stop messing around with our children's education and get back to the basics,arithmetic, literatsy, geography . Get rid of teachers who persist in pushing their own political narratives.

[@WiremuRanginui]

Classic

[@geofflewis8599]

..'Wars are won by teachers'..

[@hoppynaki]

Wars are never won.

[@groblerful]

So true.

[@eileencoulter6263]

Mh grand son was singing a maori song to me ,i said thats great now sing the song in English he said i dont know,the children are being taught to sing a song they have no idea what they are singing about

[@richardbruce8111]

Totally correct! Every student needs much more singing, In the "old days most schools did ( at least half were hymns ,better than nothing!) A good set of rousing songs started the day with a good attitude "viv amour" "oklahoma On the Ball ...Many songs open history lessons , even science (there are some fun ones. Singing helps brain development b& articulation for very young .. THIS STUFF IS WELL STUDIED WHY OH WHY IS IT NOT IN PLACE!!

[@Sharpy7562]

Thank goodness got daughter decent education put her in kip McGrath 1 hr week science maths and kept rye on teachers. Now corporate salary pay these high cost of living

[@toycollector10]

She's on to it.

[@AndrewPaulger]

She right

[@richardeasther2569]

Our navy ship that was sunk by human error wasn't insured?

[@Neo_Red_Pill]

A few months ago I had my eight-year-old granddaughter expressed to me that she felt ashamed of being white 😳

[@ala-hc4rx]

I went through the same thing with a granddaughter.i never spoke about it but just gave her a hell of alot of love.she grew out of it.

[@sueedwards9334]

I hope you told her that you were very proud that you were descendants of white people in Europe who had developed most of the things we use and benefit from today, and that without them we would all be living in mud huts and hunting animals for food.

[@jacquelinedollard5791]

Very sad whats going on in schools tgey are openly demonising an entire generation of innocent children based on skin colour. It's really twisted and sick and needs to be pushed back on.

[@chrisfort5775]

That’s so wrong… 😑 😢 what are they doing to our young minds these days. It’s evil and can be blamed on a certain previous socialist leader 😡🤯

[@Sharpy7562]

Most aware and working around the system or just producing distinct classes low wage cheap slaves or lefty academia

[@mervynpeka]

Ms Rata is more like Maria Von Trapp than Pollyanna.....

[@seanodwyer4322]

ahh new her parents in napier

[@Sharpy7562]

Now crappy business directing algorithms to them

[@DianeMay-q3g]

Yaaaay

[@Kai63Whakatu]

Kia ora Elizabeth, if Education is culturally loaded and has become heavily politicized over the last 30 years, and we must go back to a knowledge-based education (inquiry learning is actually dead in NZ schools) then why were you the most 'ideological' teacher that ever taught me? I don't regret what you offered- 'Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee' was life changing, I could have done without your Joan Baez records, but I think Hone Tuwhare and Albert Wendt were in there AND you were the first teacher (ever) that greeted us with a 'Kia ora'. (pretty hip for the late 90's). I get it that people change BUT don't be an agent for the bigots that want to belittle others to fight their own cultural war. Your battle is pedagogy- their battle is people. After all, you were the person who read Sam Hunt's "'Beware the Man" poem to a class of young Polynesian men. The same young men who have gone on to build strong foundations for their communities and acknowledge the people who supported them to get there. You and I both know that naming the world is important- and the battle from the right is to keep the black hat on their own head. So- thank you for being the hip liberal trendy teacher that you were- you certainly socially transformed me and my mates- and I have NO regrets. P.S. Joan Baez still sux.

[@arirahall6918]

‘Don’t be an agent for those who belittle others’? Bit late for you then?

[@Kai63Whakatu]

@@arirahall6918 Kia ora, hell no, don't worry about me. I am happy to point out bigotry and racism when I see it. I am a product of having to fight back. I am just sad to see someone who was once at the forefront of so called 'wokeism' (pro wimmin, pro-Maori, pro- minorities) used as a pawn by inveterate keke whero kiwi/iwi Brash types. As I said clearly- I thank her for her liberalism and ideologically driven teaching at a poor school the 1970's. I am a benefactor of her wokeism and have two post graduate degrees to show for it.

[@RobClifton-vi4ef]

Google Carol Dweck on education an growth mindset an fixed mindset an how to teach .

[@metanoian965]

Influencer and 'educator', Dame Catherine Healy, can teach yous a thing or two every which way, back or front.

[@TheJimbonz73]

Parden the pun,a sex worker can teach us a thing or two..back or front?

[@itsjustweard2328]

Is this woman take talking in circles ?

[@berniefynn6623]

Calculators not the kids brains doing sums.Then say they have improved.