‘EMBARRASSING!’ Was hosting the Copa América in the USA a failure? | ESPN FC

[@alexandermurillo2840]

I was there …. The organization was a disaster from the start … you could see it even getting there …. No guide lines no filter perimeters … they thought it was a Tuesday night scrimmage game ….

[@ferrantepallas]

Didn't they realize how HUGE this game would be????? It's beyond belief.

[@BerserkerSloth]

Yeah I got there, the funny thing is, with how awful things were ran, it in a way, unified both fans 🤣 We were all like, What the heck is going on? Where’s the entrance? What are they doing??? So we were all frustrated with the organization as opposed to each other lol

[@wagerking110]

@Italia-svtnah man, I had homies that ran music events and worked the hard rock and said they have no idea how logistics work. It is definitely the venue, also a bunch of crazy people with low standards but the venue should be prepared for those people. It’s on both

[@darealcheezer9454]

Let’s talk about the ref technology too. No Goal Line tech or Auto Offsides?!?! It’s 2024…

[@justified004]

How about the officiating in general. Refs lost control at times and games became overrun with fouls and yellow cards. VAR wasn't used enough and no goal line tech is inexcusable.

[@Revelian1982]

I didn't know this. That's unbelievable.

[@acerock013]

Herc Gomez is the only soccer head on ESPN worth listening to. No one wants to replay what Bielsa said because he said it in Spanish but what he said was born out in the final. Jesse Marsch was right. This was not a professionally run tournament and Hardrock is at fault as is Conmebol.

[@philanderphillips2309]

Bielsa scorched the earth with the truth.

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

Jesse Marsch is a gem!

[@piedrablanca1942]

ITS FOOTBALL you silly as F gringo

[@francis5944]

I've noticed that too. he most of the time is correct on his comments.

[@hayderisded6644]

You should try listen to it though there’s some transcripts and also live reporter translation, great entertainment

[@serg7706]

Also, I love how they leave out the fact the Colombian federations president got arrested with his son in Miami at the game.

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

Seriously?! I'm going to look that up, thanks.

[@DisasterArtist1997]

why

[@CrociatoAzzurro]

​@@DisasterArtist1997 They got into a physical altercation with stadium security.

[@neoneherefrom5836]

Uh it was mentioned

[@jonathanc.8424]

I went to Argentina vs Peru in Miami and after what I saw, I knew the final game was going to be a mess. For the game I went to, there was Zero police presence in the street managing traffic. Instead, it seemed like a cheap contractor was hired to manage traffic and they were clueless. They would leave traffic lights red for 10-20 minutes straight, and when it came time to leave, we were stuck in the parking lot for 3 hours not being able to move an inch. Even churches hire police officers to manage traffic outside. Hard Rock allowed conmebol to cut corners and pocket all the money. It is the fault of the greediness of conmebol and the fault of everyone like hard rock who were happy to take their cut and pass the blame to someone else.

[@jorgepichardo4909]

And the city mayor too.

[@wagerking110]

Yea man, my boy was hired by those people for some music events years ago and he said those people are amateurs.

[@REdds-ws4ll]

What is embarrassing are people in their thousands trying break into a stadium when they do not have ticket.

[@thevikinghol]

This happens in football. USA has to know how to deal with these problems.

[@joeboxerrr]

wait till u hear about lollapalooza

[@jswats92]

Colombians on the majority were at fault of this

[@willie549]

What was also embarrassing was the lack of organisation, security and Police. Amateurs...

[@AuroraBoost]

A certain club did this and they blamed everyone but themselves. I'm not gonna say which club because they are sensitive.

[@colinwithrow1083]

Conmebol shifting the blame like always.

[@DominicanKnight]

@@colinwithrow1083 they r. They r right. It usa fault. They not ready for world cup. USA NEEDS THE WORLD CUP TO BE MOVE INTO BETTER LOCATION LIKE SAUDI ARABIA, JAPAN, GERMANY OR ENGLAND. SPAIN. BULGARIA CAN do better job than the americans

[@MyMrman7]

They had the power to shut it down and postponed it. Why didn’t they do that and want to blame someone else. So someone else have the power to shut this down without Conmebol’s consent or authority?!

[@MyMrman7]

@@DominicanKnightno its not just USA, Conmebol they should of shut it down. If people don’t know how to act they should of postponed it. Conmebol and Fifa are 2 different organizations. But you right Conmebol don’t need and shouldn’t be in the United States

[@therealking6202]

​@@DominicanKnightNo it's not genius. All preparations were handled by CONMEBOL. The US is the premier country for events, whether World Cup, Olympics, etc. I honestly can't believe you even mentioned Saudi Arabia....lol ... What a joke!!!!?

[@blackberrythorns]

@@therealking6202 the world is laughing.

[@ChiefOfProtocol_ZW]

Ticket prices for the sporting events in the 🇺🇸 is getting out of hand

[@ElJuaritozz]

Exactly not even the premier league. Everything in this country is a money grab 25 min halftime?!

[@drag0..]

Yes the resell market is crazy if you buy them in time they’re reasonable or at least a lot less

[@soyentak5076]

minor league sports is pretty cheap, if you love a sport, support the smaller teams. Honesty Minor league soccer and hockey in this country has a great atmosphere to bring a family to

[@nikocuttzz141]

It’s ridiculous

[@wifi961]

I mean it still sold lol, so not really.

[@yaarghmaargh]

American sporting events are fundamentally different from football in other countries. I just dont think the US understands that.

[@KKawackk]

For americans sports are just an spectacle. Otside US, in general, sports are a confrontation. Us aaginst you. Not my team against your team. US against YOU. And if we ad National teams, well... is my country against your country. So those feeling are very strsong and very defferents to going to a spectacle.

[@DominicanKnight]

@@KKawackk i hate usa media. They keep comparing it to the superbowl. Its not even close. Fandom 100x better bigger

[@HappyCentaur-jm9lm]

@@DominicanKnight What else are they gonna compare it to?

[@therealking6202]

​@@DominicanKnightNot in THIS country though. It's the only sporting event IN THIS COUNTRY that can compare in magnitude.

[@APriestMain]

None of this happens in the usa during the huge football games every weekend. This is 100% a conmebol issue .

[@Razormiller]

Having a 25minute half time instead of a 15min one just so they could superbowl it up & have Shakira sing = failure.... All the other stuff makes it even worse. You just know theye gonna try that 25min nonsense for the World Cup as well.

[@MeBagm]

Longer half is good . Its tournament event not club season

[@mfakhrisyamsudin2214]

@@MeBagm no, longer half means longer breaks. but it also means no adrenaline rush, no tensions, and the players body will relax too much. and that could be fatal to a game results

[@shaggy1234shaggy]

Is anything really harmed by having 10 mins extra in half time? I guess not. If you say rules are rules then no match would be possible in America as these are not even football stadium dimensions, they are 4 to 5 mtr less wide and length.. Rules should not be made as a scapegoat. It will be good for football if it grows in USA..

[@mfakhrisyamsudin2214]

@@shaggy1234shaggy no. Rules are Made to be followed. There is a reason FIFA had a standar length-wide of a field. So the Players don't have to always adapt to every dimension of a pitch. If America don't follow those rules, then its better to not have world cup there in the first place rather than risking anything happend to the Players. I mean, you guys critize Qatar a lot but they're doing a great job at hosting a world cup and should be Made an example. (IM not talking abt what they do BEFORE the event. IM talking about what they do AT the event)

[@blackberrythorns]

@@shaggy1234shaggy the usa can't adapt to the rules of the game as played in the rest of the world? why does it always need to be exceptional?

[@ValentinSal]

It was the Columbian fans for the most part. They haven’t been to a final in many years, and they also had the chaos in the semis vs Uruguay too. With the addition of having Karol G, Maluma, and Shakira. I felt that they really wanted to push a Columbian win, but Argentina had the experience.

[@Cris18Martinez]

its Colombia

[@almad4355]

Absolutely

[@fishingislife9554]

Argentinian fans were also acting like hooligans, there were people in Argentina shirts jumping over walls and trespassing,

[@Lphinz99]

How was there not even 1 employee at the gate. They looked like they've never hosted an event at this stadium. Embarrassing & upset at how the fans managed the stadium.

[@csrac23]

Never let COMEBOL or another region take point in hosting these tournaments in the USA. They are always going to cut corners to make more money since they can't make this $$$ in their regions.

[@TrainerAQ]

I agree. South Americans don't know how to manage money

[@VantaBlackhole]

Couldn’t be more ignorant

[@csrac23]

@VantaBlackhole factually 2016 copa america generated the most money ever for any copa america. CONMEBOL had 0 input on the production and set up of the tournament. Saw the $$$ and decided to take full control for this year in order to keep the majority of the profit. They ran the tournament cheaply. From paying the least amount for pitches and training grounds, paying less for security, not providing journalists with food at stadiums (they had to pay for their own food), no fan zones, and the giant plastic check at the end of the final 😂 How was I being ignorant? Were your feelings hurt, and you decided to resort to generalization in order to cope for reading something that made you feel some way? Can you not hear opposing views and facts without formulating a counter argument?

[@MegasCaesar]

​@@csrac23not ones born out of complete ignorance and bigotry. Thise arguments are as useful as dogshit. U should've said they dont make as much money in South America instead of saying they cant make any money. That the difference between a good faith opinion and disrespectful ignorant Western supremacy BS.

[@edgarcota3097]

@@VantaBlackholeit’s a fact bro. South America uses USA and Mexico to get to the American dollar

[@piscesman54]

Complete and utter failure, in every aspect possible. 25 minute half time is a ridiculous decision just to allow more time for sponsor advertising. $$$ rules.

[@brandonkeiper7188]

The 1 hour 20 min delay was because of the fans.

[@devinhapanovich8428]

And lack of security

[@piscesman54]

@@brandonkeiper7188 If you have proper security, with several perimeters around the stadium, you won't have that problem. This is the way it's done all over South America. And the US, supposedly the champions of security can't handle even the most basic operation? Seriously? This was simply utter incompetence.

[@hajime6908]

Hope this won’t happen at the WC

[@lachargersx10x83]

@@piscesman54 hahah It was organized by the south americans genius. CONMEBOL was in charge of everything and refused CONCACAF and stadium help

[@dimitrijensk2845]

Most of the problems here were because of Conmebol, not US soccer.

[@Lbb789]

😂😂😂😂

[@wifi961]

They don't care they're leftists.

[@dimitrijensk2845]

@@wifi961 ?

[@erwincorreia884]

US soccer is responsible because they want it to host the tournament, it's both sides

[@dimitrijensk2845]

@@erwincorreia884 US soccer is not even involved dude, wdym? It is a Conmebol event. They planned and organized everything.

[@marcusnfishy]

What about this Columbian and Conmebol soccer president that was arrested for attacking event staff while children tried to pull them back.

[@elche1976]

If it had been Argentina vs one of the following: Uruguay, Brazil, USA ... there wouldn't have been the fan chaos. It was Colombians that created the chaos. On to the tourney... conmebol f"d this over.

[@Remychat9]

@@elche1976US failed miserably! Has zero prevention measures knowing that Colombians are in all prisons in the Americas! But even without it, fields were awful the grass with huge gaps horrible that can injure players ! Qatar , Russia world cups great as well as EURO. US should relinquish being hosts of World Cup! Can’t even protect the president! Great negligence!

[@bogasixtyeight5153]

@@elche1976Brazilian and Argentina fans caused chaos for the copa America final in 2021. River and boca final had to be played in a different country cause their fans were causing chaos. Ur trippin

[@elche1976]

@bogasixtyeight5153 ummm.... recheck your facts. Because you're obviously misinformed and repeating stuff you don't know. 21, a small small small amount of hands were allowed to attend due to covid. No issue. So nice try. Last year in qualifiers... there were incidents. Already confirmed to be Brazilian fans instigating Anne then Brazilian police beating fans. That's where the players went to protect their families.l and the game was delayed. Look it up, again, not Argentina who was the culprit. Also, the Copa Libertadores final in Brazil... Boca fans were attacked by Brazilian fans on beaches and on the way to the game. Yes, boca and river fans hate each other. Rivals do. But those examples you have.... 100% inaccurate. Be better at trying to be right. That way you don't use feelings instead of facts. Who is trippin now, child?

[@felipegoles7619]

@@elche1976 wow, I guess you have never watched football matches involving Brazil's and Argentina's national teams or clubs.

[@griseltrigo7123]

What these 3 gentlemen fail to acknowledge is that Marcelo Bielsa was exactly right in his declarations after the Uruguay v Colombia game. Conmebol, and anyone associated with the organization of this Copa America, were a complete and utter failure. Security for the fans outside and inside the Stadiums was a failure. The majority of the fields were unacceptable; several of them did not comply with the dimensions of the fields games are played throughout the world. The fields provided to the different teams for training and practice were awful for several of the teams. The weather conditions under which some games were played in stadiums without roofs and AC were inappropriate. FIFA, Conmebol, Concacaf, they are all a bunch of crooks caring only in making money and pursuing their powerful interests. Everything, EVERYTHING, Bielsa said was absolutely true. And yet, just wait, I am sure the corresponding authorities will sanction Bielsa, his players and the AUF, for the occurrences after their game and subsequent declarations. No one has yet apologized to the Uruguayan players for allowing their families to be in danger; no one entity has yet assumed responsibility for the lack of security provided to this group of family members. As Bielsa said, these are all a bunch of liars. Wonder why none of these gentlemen addressed Bielsa’s accusations, and the warnings Uruguayan players made as to the dangers for future matches in terms of the security of the fans; could it be that, like Bielsa also said, a good percentage of the Press is bought and paid for or are afraid to say something the authorities may dislike. This country is evidently not prepared to host a World Cup in 2 years. It would start with the acknowledgement of the authorities involved of their clear failures.

[@Lbb789]

💯

[@almad4355]

Excellent comment

[@qwert1168]

I had never seen anything like this in the US. The US has hosted Super Bowls, World Cups, Olympics. What caught the stadium off guard? I heard people arrived 3 hours early and still had issues entering. I feel bad for everyone that was hurt, the organizers owe the fans some kind of an apology. A couple of years ago I went to a F1 event in Indianapolis, a disaster. Weeks later I received an apology letter plus the option to free tickets if I wanted to go back the following year. The greed!!!! We all know tickets were at $1500 and up, how is that acceptable? Anyway, people need to be apologized too.

[@brandonaguilera5713]

The problem was Conmebol. I heard fifa has different safety protocols and regulations

[@Cesar-pq2ck]

They should have canceled the game and reschedule.

[@lewest7317]

The whole notion of going to a stadium to try to steal a seat and somebody else's money is beyond my comprehension. It is not about passion for soccer, or that this is the USA, not LATAM, Europe, blah, blah, blah. Not only that, many fans destroyed facilities, pushed children, got people hurt, got beaten by the cops. Is that "passion" for the sport too?

[@wifi961]

Bro, they're just leftists taking advantage of the moment to smack talk the US.

[@kungenftww]

and then they critique Qatar 😂😂😂😂

[@Support-your-local-team]

Their security has been embarrassing in the last week but them hosting the World Cup won't cost 6,500 people their lives.

[@kungenftww]

@@Support-your-local-team the money gathered will cost more ppl for sure... maybe 1 mil or maybe to fund geno

[@sharukhrahman5304]

​@@Support-your-local-team6500 according to who? 😅

[@Support-your-local-team]

@@sharukhrahman5304 "Data from India, Bangladesh, Nepal and Sri Lanka revealed there were 5,927 deaths of migrant workers in the period 2011-2020. Separately, data from Pakistan’s embassy in Qatar reported a further 824 deaths of Pakistani workers, between 2010 and 2020". What is your motivation for denying this?

[@Support-your-local-team]

@@kungenftww Not really, FIFA pockets most of the money from tournaments anyway. The USA is the biggest aggressor on the planet but them hosting a tournament won't kill thousands of people. People need to stop this whataboutery BS

[@juanpablosaenz9037]

These Colombian fans hexed their team with this abhorrent behavior.

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

Some of them are nice

[@capernight1132]

and Argentine fans too, don't exclude them

[@andybud1983]

The problem is the culture. Some cultures handle not having tickets better than others.

[@Leo82870]

The problem is your ignorance. Did you see those in Europe doing the same thing during the England games in the 2020 championship you xenophobe?

[@jberrocalucf]

Yea we have to include English and Italians , and champions league final teams too !

[@Support-your-local-team]

@PacmanBrunner England fans broke into Wembley for the Euro's final three years ago. Only Covid and the game not being full stopped it being a disaster

[@jberrocalucf]

@PacmanBrunner lol 😂 I’m sorry I didn’t provide a frame of reference. The Italians and English fans stormed Wimbledon stadium 2020 at European final match. Non ticket holders many injured I think many died as well . Look up the video then you can see all the Italian English jerseys you want lol

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

@PacmanBrunner maybe there were people from other countries wearing a Colombia jersey to make Colombia look bad. We will probably never find out because I doubt any of them are getting charged.

[@brianbunker2150]

Herc called those people deplorables😂😂 😂

[@jl8485]

Where's the lie tho..

[@mcUSA94]

Nice. 👍🏻

[@truthseeker8139]

Looked a lot like Jan 6th

[@eddz9999]

Weak security protocols from Conmebol/Hard rock stadium + ultra euphoric and proud fans from both sides = the 💩 show that unfolded before our eyes

[@benoitwaffle5439]

No. It was weak security for an event that featured Colombia. There are 1.6 million Colombian or Colombian-Americans in the US, 600K of whom reside in Florida. It was a unique situation where Colombia gets to the final for the third time in its history, against Argentina, Shakira is playing at halftime, and it was in their backyard. The event took place in the US to get the money of the diaspora from Mexicans, Colombians, Ecuadorians, Brazilians, Venezuelans, and Messi fans in the US. It is clear the organizers did not think the kind of security typical of NBA, NFL, Final Fours, etc was necessary. They thought they could milk them for their money, and not have to pay to make the event work. To be fair, it probably doesn't play out like this if Uruguay won the semi, because you don't have a lot of Argentines or Uruguayans in Florida. You get a more neutral crowd, no overflow to pressure the skimped on security, and the organizers pocket the profit without a problem.

[@undercoverss6106]

@@benoitwaffle5439a lot of argentinans in Miami but yea not nearly as much as Colombians,Venezuelans,Cubans etc

[@georgepuello6275]

First and foremost, before anyone judges me, I happen to be Colombian. The failure it's on the attendees part, mainly the "Yellow Shirts", but we have become such a "Walk on eggshells" culture here in the US, that maybe I, with my ethnicity and background, I'm one of the few that qualifies to tell it like it is and will not be judged (Doubtful) !. The "Yellow shirts" behaved like they behave back home, because well, it's the normalcy of a third world country, anyone who had visited can concur it meets the stereotype. And it wasn't a few of them, it was almost all the "Yellow shirts" and giveth, also a few, very few "White and Blue Shirts". I took my mother to the doctor this morning, and she told me it was all Argentinians dressed up as Colombians, she told me all about it, because in her Direct TV plan apparently she has access to Colombian TV and they were trying to sell that, ergo she was trying to sell that to me. A culture of no consequence that still worships Pablo Escobar, and see anything that anyone else feels it's wrong, like normal behavior, and they will try to justify it. I'm former Military, Current Law Enforcement, and when I hear "Non sense" arguments like this one, I get very aggravated fairly quickly. It was the longest 8 minutes of my existence, driving her to that appointment. They didn't win because Argentina played better, they behaved like what they are and we have to acknowledge that and try to correct it.; I'm thinking 4 generations from now, we will be able to attend and not destroy private property just because "We" didn't win a silly sport's tournament. ........And scene ! 🤘

[@luke31ish]

I didn't have a ticket either, so I chose to watch the game on TV. Who in the right mind goes to a game without a ticket, thinking that somehow they're going to get in? 🤔

[@mariojcollado1384]

Solid point

[@ElJuaritozz]

I would, I’m not a pu$$y

[@kevin18br]

No one in the right mind will do that, but the real problem is that 20% of the South American fanbase can't be in the right mind, like ever, trust me I know my people. I can't even blame the security for that, I bet they were not told how crazy some of our people can behave towards football/soccer.

[@kangill2411]

​@PacmanBrunner haha.

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

I rather go to a fan fest

[@marcomed71]

The security, the size of the fields, the conditions of the grass, the players warm up twice for the final, and on top, they had half an hour break ... This is what happens when money is more important than anything ...

[@DaddyFutbol]

7000 people went in free 7000 people left out who actually paid

[@giovannahiggins5903]

The DT of Bolivia Zago was the firts to talk about it his Bolivian team had 7 good players who were told to stay in Bolivia and 1 was send back they had a bad hotel poor food no field to practice the field was full of watter mosquitos holes the DT said they would not let the players get hurt. They had to drive around looking for a school where they had to pay to practice. The 3 players were bench against the US and all the teams Bolivia was use for a safe pass. The DT of Argentina complain about the sintetic grass over playwood all football players from every team should play in a better field specially when the dimentions are not as it should be 4 meters larger in every side.. Conmebol had a contract with Rock Stadium and told them what was need it The answer was that we knew what we were doing. My sons couldn't get to the game 2,000 dollars each ticket plus the fight from DC to Miami the hotel. They were there for 5 hours by the time they got to the stadium the stadium was already full of people. No one at the scanning are to explain where they need it to go. Ana Argentinian family paid 16,000 dollars for a falco for the family, others 10,000 4,000 no gurds no police officers until 1 hour later. No air conditioning in the area like Catar had since the US is supposed to be the 1sr world we expected to be like Catar and it was not at all. The police tokd people with tickets to go home and when they show their tickets the answer was not my problem. 108 years of Copa America never had such a bad situation. In Brasil Messi was able to step out until the cullpris were taking out. The game should have been cancelled but they were force to play. Fifa gate purchase the rifht for Copa America no one is South America agrees with that it is a South American copa. And it should go back to South Anerica. Fifa gate jail all the conmebol presidents to put 10 puppets in hatge who get pay 44,000 dollars a month plus 25,000 dollars a month and other loyalties they get. The US is making millions with South American football. Now the world cup will be boycot just like the US boycot Catar there is a huge reason for this boycot the complicity to the genocide of Palestinian people and fuiling war against Rusia. Juky 25l4 there is a huge protest in the US and it is broadcast world wide. People do not want the world cup in the US. This is bad for all of us.

[@sheffsteel7]

Ticketless fans has always been an issue but there's a simple solution. For decades now FIFA and the Euros have fanzones (large open spaces) all around the city inviting well over 50,000 ticketless fans the opportunity to watch the match on a huge screen in a great atmosphere. Also the England- Wembley comparison is a little unfair. The only reason why English fans tried to break into Wembley was because they know that due to covid restrictions there would be 20,000 empty seats inside the stadium. When a match is sold out Europeans will always prefer to attend a fanzone instead of trying to break into a full stadium. Beside security is massive at big football events.

[@MotoNomad350]

The absence of fan zones to act as a pressure relief is definitely a factor. I hope FIFA takes notes.

[@maiasita]

I’m glad you all talked about the price of the tickets, in my opinion the problems started there…

[@Dhoyos7]

Its as simple as a queueing system! They have them at F1 and Dolphins games. Why would you expect single point of entry for 70k+ would work? The failure has a simple solution…

[@hernanpavon565]

This was an embarrassment for every Football-Soccer lover that respects the game and culture of the game! There are so many people that should be held accountable for the actions happening in this final and the whole Copa America! The problem started with CONMEBOL trying to just make profit! profit! and not have the proper logistics to make this not only safe and great cup! The ticket prices were so SUPER HIGH from the beginning and CONMEBOL just let sport event ticket brokers buy all tickets and not have cap on ticket price so that fans can buy tickets! there were empty seat throughout many of the 1st round of games..... which was ridicules if one is trying to promote the Sport in the USA. So I was not surprised to see what happen in the final. I am sad and frustrated because as a Latino, parent, youth Coach, and promoter of Football-Soccer growth in the USA this is a step backwards in the growth, value and respect of the sport in the USA

[@paulaansai6069]

En Argentina en cualquier partido hay al menos dos o tres anillos de seguridad por los que los espectadores tienen que pasar antes de llegar a los molinetes

[@colinwithrow1083]

Esto no pasó nunca acá. Es culpa de Conmebol como en Brazil antes y varias otras veces.

[@Southernsnake]

No the fault is with the idiots who don’t follow rules quit making excuses for them to act this way

[@migmo89]

@@Southernsnakebut if you know people are idiots and are going to take advantage are you just supposed to let it happen? Thats silly, take precautions if you saw how it went in the semis

[@Hugo89422]

Si pero esto es el primer mundo, no están acostumbrados a que los ciudadanos se comporten como animales. En un Super-bowl el evento deportivo más importante de los Estados Unidos asisten la misma cantidad de personas o más y no sucede esta actitud tercermundista 🙄.

[@Southernsnake]

@@migmo89 or they could act like civilized adults. Stop trying to blame leadership for these people acting this way. They need to do better Colombians need to act like adults not children. Especially when they are in another country they represent their nation. Shame.

[@deviouslaw]

It is wild to blame anyone except the ones who chose to force their way in without a ticket.

[@elche1976]

Colombianos

[@nico_351]

3:30 if it was 7000 without ticket, 6900 were Colombian. Mainstream media needs to be more specific with this

[@hassamneetoo956]

The US should not hold the next world cup after this mayhem. FiFA should rethink and take a bold decision and cancel the venue.

[@Sebmpg]

I don’t think there was enough blame towards the fans. I completely agree. Deplorable!!

[@jorgeblast9756]

And one more thing, the fields were a disaster. All the teams complained about it

[@duran9664]

Stop covering up the organizers’ failure 😡

[@VantaBlackhole]

Just your local Troll

[@facundovaldez6990]

why? it was a complete disaster to not to be repeated! especially taking into consideration USA is hosting the effing World Cup on 2026! Shame on the organizers, they must be exposed!

[@claudiarebollo7398]

Even the fields where smaller than normal. Bielsa was right not just conmebol but concacaf and the USA organisation were a desaster.

[@smashonlamez]

Good on Herc for calling out the fans. No one is talking about how those ppl had to think about going there without tickets with intent to go in. Delinquent behavior. Embarrassing.

[@oscarleon4991]

Not having heavy security was the significant problem

[@DiddyUp]

I blame fans for acting like animals

[@ElJuaritozz]

Tournament was a money grab

[@Tincho326]

@PacmanBrunner Thank you for noting that it was mostly colombians.

[@Nandez17]

@PacmanBrunner interesting comment and interesting grammar. what will happen when your diabetes swollen bariatric legs can’t manage your landscaping? Will you say comments like this then?

[@willie549]

Well that's football. If you don't know that, then don't host something you can't handle...

[@elche1976]

*Colombian fans

[@justified004]

They forgot to mention the officiating as well. These officials lost control of numerous games, resulting in countless yellows. Conmebol had no business running a tournament in the US.

[@white95gsr]

It was a failure . Even putting the final aside. I went to 6 games . Bad field conditions, teams that obviously wouldn't fill a stadium playing in huge stadiums that looked empty. They need to use the smaller great futbol stadiums that the MLS has. The security issues in the Uruguay game. The security issues in other games. 4 of the games I went to had security issues at the gates or with fans harassing players on the field. A ton of which was never reported .At the very least in Europe they keep the gates and the majority of the area within a block radius of the stadiums ok so the world doesn't really see it .

[@Eyen]

i mean in this case i wouldn’t even say it’s the U.S’s fault the colombians were just crazy😂😂

[@BeHumbleAndLessArrogant]

Now the rest of us are getting dragged into this and are forced to defend ourselves from ignorance. Distinctions must be made.

[@droopdanke2323]

They were demonstrating how they got inside the U.S 😂

[@thejulioandres]

Wasn’t just Colombians. Your ignorance is embarrassing

[@kimi3421]

We knew beforehand the Colombians would be crazy. It was upon us to prepare properly. We didn't. People act crazy when in large crowds. There was no effective crowd control in place. As the country of January 6th we don't get to lecture others on crowd behaviour.

[@christianbula1728]

@@thejulioandres en mayoridad fueron colombianos

[@eamano8474]

The worst quality copa America as well. The smaller pitches made it too tight and scrappy and the bad pitches also

[@NicolaCiocchini]

Question to south american supporters: didn’t you find the idea of hosting an half time show offensive to soccer traditions? I mean, if you are an Argentinian or Colombian at the stadium do you really give xxxx about it?

[@mariojcollado1384]

Specially if no voice-all squealing ShaKaMela is "singing"

[@Mazrati]

No, not really

[@elche1976]

Argentina? No. Colombia, most definitely. They showed it too. Colombia was the primary reason for fan chaos.

[@brandonkeiper7188]

That’s why they’re ignorant

[@benoitwaffle5439]

You could literally hear the crowd singing along during the show, so I don't think they found it to be offensive.

[@JuanGArangoTV]

Why aren'y you talking about CONMEBOL censoring journalists and coaches?

[@OGCanadaCards]

Pretty sure it was just the Colombian fans in every problematic situation

[@bbyshady]

If they are charging thousands $ for a seat, then i totally understand the fans rushing the gate to get in. That is ridiculous for them to charge that much.

[@noire9601]

The U.S. should not host FOOTBALL tournaments. They do not understand or accept the importance/magnitude of the sport at the international level and are not well-equipped. This event was underestimated. This will happen again in 2026. Now I'm rethinking attending the world cup live.

[@drag0..]

No the U.S. should not let someone else run these tourneys

[@loganleroy8622]

This won't happen in 2026. The Copa didn't have the full attention of the US public. The American audience actually pays attention to the World Cup when it happens. Everyone will be aware it's happening and the full attention of security forces will be there.

[@LM2.S54]

2016 was fine so stop with your idiotic opinion

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

I doubt there will be problems at the World Cup in US or Canada. FIFA is running the show in conjunction with local authorities, not conmebol. Both countries have successfully hosted various Olympics and the women's World Cup not to mention the US had the men's World Cup in 1994.

[@hurricanealley2015]

Hey: watch The Final: Attack on Wembley! It was not amazing then! And the French messed it up too in the Liverpool v RM final…this actually is a trend that the Germans improved upon!

[@sbramp]

USA screwed up hosting of cricket World cup in June and now Copa America. F1 in Vegas was saved by a good race but weekend was a disaster. I really worry about the World cup and even Olympics in LA 28.

[@cypher3604]

The USSF or CONCACAF had nothing to do with Copa America considering it’s CONMEBOL who hosts it…

[@molaminchanter4264]

Americans don't understand this game that's why they ain't getting anywhere ,the ticket prices ..the formats ,the ego man is too much

[@bighawkfan1]

I attended the friendly international between Mexico and Australia back in September 2023 at AT&T Stadium in Dallas and not once did anyone check my tickets which I found strange. The official attendance was around 55,000 and I swear there was a lot more. I heard a lot of fans went in without tickets.

[@TheHesseJames]

I can tell you that whenever a European country host a WC or the Euros, the whole country feels responsible for it being successful. There would never be blame shifting to FIFA or UEFA because other than extorting money from everybody and managing the games they wouldn’t be in charge of anything.

[@rodgermurphy5721]

90% of the country had no idea it was even taking place

[@benoitwaffle5439]

Google "Euro 2020 final UEFA England Blame" and rethink what you just wrote.

[@claudio32920]

There is the blame game, with many places to point the finger. Meanwhile Miami-Dade got hundreds of millions in economic benefit. Could they not step up, even if they had to foot the bill? It’s called public safety. Were there sufficient fan zones, parks with huge screens, and such like in Europe? Can we host the World Cup? Well, the US is a wild place with a lot of guns and corporate greed is more important than quality of life. That’s your answer. Nope. Expect chaos and I pray not, tragedy.

[@Cheeeeeeeeks123]

They just don't understand what soccer is. That's why they weren't ready

[@adisonsichampanakhone1070]

Yes but it’s because of who’s in charge of copa. Ref’s were terrible also.

[@shudigg]

The real criminals were the staff and organizers. Not opening the gates on time, no lines for fans to go in for entry is what caused the chaos, it was over 100degrees and people were passing out due to the heat, they would not allow fans to get into the stadium which caused the chaos. Fans had enough of waiting and took action. Yes there were a few knuckleheads but overall it was the staff and organizers fault for the chaos. Also, charging $13 for water in 100degree weather was absolutely criminal.

[@JorgePerez-jg5cm]

What an embarrassing failure for the USA the pitch was terrible the security was a joke and if this is what we can expect from the USA World Cup let’s just play in Canada.

[@cypher3604]

Ok Mr. Perez, it was your people causing the issues anyway.

[@lilrock1822]

When it comes to what happened before the final, I blame the greed/ticket prices. I said weeks before, when seeing the prices, either you'll see a lot of empty seats or the people will rebel. The people rebelled. A $1400 minimum is a lot for the average American. IMAGINE what a $1400 minimum (not including flight and hotel) is for a Colombian (look yourself what the average salary is over there). Homie calling the fans deplorable isn't right

[@Southernsnake]

Don’t let these people escape blame. Your excuse is flimsy at best. The way they acted was shameful.

[@lilrock1822]

@@Southernsnake never said they weren't wrong. Don't assume

[@Ben2bwild]

​@@Southernsnake I hope you kept this same energy for the January 6 guys

[@shudigg]

Dont forget about the extra fees on top of the ticket prices… charging an EXTRA 1000 was criminal

[@bayrondelcid8728]

People like you need a life get off the internet go outside and talk to real people ​@@Ben2bwild

[@colonelhstinkmeaner8547]

That happened in Colombia except they sold doubles of tickets. People that paid good money for the tickets got their seats stolen the security didn't do anything about it.

[@SC_XOLOs]

Don’t invite Colombia , bothe disaster involve them

[@Delboy0]

Basically the Americans thought organising a real football event was like organising their crappy Super Bowl and learned a lesson that real football is another level in terms of passion than their unauthentic overly commercial sports. They are not customers, they are passionate followers in real football.

[@cypher3604]

If you were smart, which you aren’t, you’d know that CONMEBOL were the ones hosting it, not CONCACAF or the USSF, hence the name. Also, it’s not the fault of the organization that Colombians are unable to behave themselves like normal people of a functioning society, which explains why the country is in the state it is.

[@HammersWalls]

Tournament was an embarrassing joke.

[@freetheworld2671]

The tournament was great, the organization was not.

[@Pharoh_95]

The copa america was trash. That final was so boring I fell asleep

[@eamano8474]

​@freetheworld2671 it was the worst copa America yet and 2 things made it that way. Small pitches which made the games scrappy and tight and poor pitch quality

[@abody499]

and there are many reasons why this is true. even the broadcast production was terrible.

[@sebastianmidar5159]

​@@eamano8474also bad referring, weak security, and no goal line technology

[@turnupthesun81]

This isn’t just a CONMEBOL issue. These people who host events want to cut corners and skimp on security. I went to the club America preseason game in the US and they only had six police officers on the field and obviously fans rushed the field.

[@docsspellingcontest592]

Obviously. I mean, why not break the law when there's no one there to stop me. I don't have any self control or self respect. Please, stop me.

[@miamiwax5504]

The 2 key words here "In Miami"

[@bigpoppa3999]

Same happened in Wembley stadium when England plaued against italy in the final.

[@Codessca]

There are deplorables everywhere, the organizers fail to secure the venue

[@mullen25]

shouldn't have had the final at the awful stadium. this is the management of that place. ridiculous.

[@londresparis_1]

Alexis Nunes is just beautiful.

[@philanderphillips2309]

She is, but FAKE HAIR.

[@Mrequiszeta14]

25 halftime is absolutely ridiculous. I hope never seen again something like that

[@presidentcovfefe]

I think part of the problem are the foreigners who seem to have a particular affinity for illegal entry.

[@Speedyvampir2]

Well the organizer should have anticipated such.

[@presidentcovfefe]

@@Speedyvampir2 yeah I agree

[@reubenblanco3021]

Who the pilgrims ?😉

[@griseltrigo7123]

Your comments speak louder than anything I could respond. I certainly know whom you’ll be voting for in November.

[@Daniel-nt5gh]

In Europe we have special international police units specialized in football safety that are connected trough all the countries to prevent what has happened in the past. Football stadiums were not safe for a children not so many years ago in Europe because the fans, specially far right fans, whom loved to use football as a platform to spread a hate speech. In South America is still a madness to go to a very high animosity football game with a child. USA might not know this in advance, but FIFA did, and they should have made it clear. USA need to learn from Europe's police units ASAP. The problem is not knowing in advance what was coming, not the culture, football brings a lot of good things and also some degenerates an opportunity to show off.

[@rva1945]

Not to mention the state of the grass at some fields, horrible!

[@Flashkoch]

You can see how delusional these "experts" are: No, the Worldcup 1994 was not good, it was MAYBE a financial success, but that Worldcup sucked for the fans, the sport and was disapointing. It's not about money, it's about football and passion. US americans should stay away from that beautiful sport, they will never get "it".

[@almad4355]

Organizers are more concerned about making money than about the providing an appropriate space for the actual game and about ensuring the safety of the players and fans.

[@droopdanke2323]

They needed border patrol at the game 😂

[@TheChamrod04]

Man the border alone has no border patrol but we need em at Hard Rock? Lol CONMEBOL cheaped out, didn't want to pay for legit security and enough staff and here we are

[@lift4zyzz584]

From what I heard, some were arrested and are in the process of deportation 😂 although being here illegally, imagine losing the opportunity to stay here for a game

[@1972dsrai]

You’re going to have fans from across the globe in 2026. Get ready. Nothing you see in your domestic sports will prepare you for the fanatical support and passion people have for football. Lets just hope your team as hosts can get past the group stages this time. The global exposure and revenue generated is on a completely different level to the womens game which is somehow more dominant in the US.

[@VantaBlackhole]

Then the Stadiums will never be at full capacity

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

@@1972dsrai "Nothing you see in your domestic sports will prepare you for the fanatical support and passion people have for football." I don't think "nothing." Although not on the level, college football (particularly in the SEC) has echoes of what football culture has (though yes not the same level).

[@stirfryjedi]

If any of the major parties here openly admits to their own mistakes, lawsuits will be filed quickly.

[@mustafam8945]

Talk all you want about Qatar, but they did an excellent job in logistic side of organizing a sporting event. (WC22, Club world cup...)

[@andrewswan5149]

All that and you forgot to mention the fixed qualification that ensured Argentina in a 'Miamessi' final. When the winner of A1xB2 plays B1xA2 winners and then Brasil and Columbia potentially face each other twice in less than a week, Joke! A real tournament will always mean only to first round teams can meet in the final when 16/32 teams are involved. FIX! $$$ first everyone in the States is embarrassed now!

[@dynodin81]

Miami is always an issue! In Charlotte it was full of Colombians and they had no problems - This was as big as a Super Bowl and they prepared for it like it was some Friendly match.

[@jamespallo4400]

So we’re not blaming the people who jumped the fence, broke the escalators? Climbed in the vents? Ok

[@tonysoares1017]

The US hosted the WorldCup in 1994, where there any incidents like this?

[@lorenzozampighi3646]

No

[@MyLeg.]

Yes

[@Hugo89422]

They were a lot less illegal inmigrantes back then 🙈🙄.

[@Speedyvampir2]

America 30years ago was better than it is today 😅

[@ElJuaritozz]

@@Hugo89422boy do I have news for you 😂the whole country is illegal if you want to be honest, starting with yt folk

[@seusenhortobi5237]

Tamanho dos campos reduzidos por si só já é um FRACASSO. Uma competição com grandes estrelas do futebol sul-americano, jogando um futebol "retrancado" é apenas ridículo! Tenho certeza que muitas seleções poderiam ter entregue mais com um campo mais descente para o esporte...

[@christorres9736]

What a embarrassment. Doesn’t matter who’s hosting the tournament it’s on American soil

[@StylistecS]

It does matter. If Conmebol didn't want USSF or concacaf help, how is it on them and not on Conmebol?

[@Southernsnake]

The fault is with the idiots acting like children.

[@Cevichelicious]

Becauae they can just say no lol and just not invokve themselves in general ​@StylistecS

[@paulberry2884]

@@Cevichelicious they can't say no. The owners of Hard Rock Stadium are in a lawsuit with the US Soccer Federation and FIFA over the hosting of foreign matches. FIFA have already conceded.

[@piedrablanca1942]

Copa América is ALWAYS on american soil

[@laentidaddesconocida]

Did you notice? In both major incidents in Copa America USA 2024, the Colombian fans were involved.

[@ahmedram4489]

WHY did they added halftime show whts goin on this is football not nfl us is soo embaressing🤣

[@jmtz3149]

The euros had a show before the game, idk why placement matters, it’s not like the players are gonna complain about a longer break

[@Alan-yt8vq]

​​@@jmtz3149 UEFA and FIFA takes these games more seriously. It's not entertainment show like Superbowl. Euros always have opening and closing ceremony. They don't have half-time shows that takes more than 15mins . And they do not delay any matches. If a game starts at 7:00pm the kick off is 7:00pm. Not 5mins after, not 15 or whatever.

[@JVMC_ZR1]

You know what?? I'm just going to blame the Colombian fans and nothing else.

[@frankdatank19]

tell the fans to not act like dummies and everything will be fine 🤷

[@brandonkeiper7188]

Facts!

[@Jrg1820fb]

They need to stop looking back at the 1994 and 1999 World Cups it’s a different world and the crowds going to these games have much less respect. Look at the videos it’s pretty clear

[@ThunderStick23]

Regarding the empty seats, the ticket prices were too high. Unless your country was playing, there was no reason for you to pay $200+ for nosebleeds

[@phays10]

Demand?

[@Franciselshorty]

Even the European clubs that play friendly here, they want 200 for nosebleeds

[@claryInTn]

So how and why those persons without tickets get the idea that they would be allowed to enter the stadium in the 1st place?

[@tr_vmi4844]

I have zero worries about WC26.

[@Speedyvampir2]

🤡

[@mocotrocos]

Is anybody aware of what happened in London at the Eurocup final three years ago?

[@HappyCentaur-jm9lm]

CONMEBOL and CONCACAF trying to save money - as always - by cutting cost on important tournament aspects.

[@drag0..]

CONCACAF didn’t make any money since they didn’t hold the tourney

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

@@drag0..they pay to Conmebol to participate

[@tlcp53b49]

Was not Miami fault because Copa took the money over the security