Ember Moon On How NXT Changed After Triple H Left

Former WWE Superstar Ember Moon (Athena) joins Chris Van Vliet to discuss when she believed things truly changed in both WWE and NXT when Triple H departed. Ember Moon is a 15-year veteran of professional wrestling who worked at WWE from 2015 to 2021.
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[@Tranceplant82]

Again, I think it's unacceptable that main roster staff is not aware of what's going on in NXT. I thought WWE were professionals...

[@aaryanairy756]

I believe its more like they that don't WANT to be aware of what's going on in NXT.

[@shai310]

Yeah and also saying shit like that to Ember is not cool at all because she isn't a new talent, she was a well established talent who won the NXT women's title so you shouldn't disrespect her like that. That what pisses me off is that some of the writers WWE seem completely clueless as to what's been going on on other brands and mainly focus on the main roster. But I doubt anyone of them would say this shit to Gunther.

[@HCIbn]

@@shai310 exactly!

[@Ahmed-og2jm]

Especially when WWE pretty much rely on NXT for year's what a joke

[@truelyourzloveyourself]

It's SUPER unacceptable. They are all under the same umbrella ,so everybody should know what's going on at ALL brands. It's NO way they shouldn't know what to do with NXT talent. Especially the ones who were plain STARS. it pisses me off

[@crazyfun5150]

WWE is crazy for letting Ember Moon go. She’s freaking gorgeous, can wrestle, can talk and was amazing at commentary too. Just proves how out of touch Vince is. I’m still dumbfounded at that they let ones like Ember or Kross go. Then they wonder why they can’t find the next breakout star.

[@Raytheman581]

I was with you until you said she could talk...naw she can't, not when it comes to acting. Not that she can't be better, but she sucks at talking.

[@billywashere6965]

I don't think WWE wants a breakout star.

[@crazyfun5150]

@@billywashere6965 clearly not because they’ve released so many talented people. Ember, Kross, Keith Lee, Samoa Joe and Braun Strowman are all great examples of people that worked hard to improve then got released. These days no one gets a fair opportunity.

[@billywashere6965]

@@crazyfun5150 And even before that, Zack Ryder and CM Punk were on the verge of mainstream crossover appeal, and they cut their runs off at the knees.

[@crazyfun5150]

@@billywashere6965 yeah you could go on and on listing talented people the WWE has released or caused to quit or not resign. You can’t make the next big star if you only push older stars.

[@Samurai_Stoner]

NXT didn't need to be changed in my opinion HHH was giving the best shows in WWE

[@jorgecarrilloestrada]

Maybe nxt needed a little change, but not that kind of changes where nxt became a show as bad as raw or SD

[@lotokiba851]

They got there asses kicked byeverywhere. week. Best TV in wwe I don't think so 🤔.

[@Samurai_Stoner]

@@lotokiba851 learn to spell properly, then talk

[@lotokiba851]

@@Samurai_Stoner fuck ember moon she is talentless she should go be a waitress or something else get her off my TV screen

[@superkid12345]

Of all the things in pro wrestling, the only things that fans and wrestlers universally agree about is that HHH was amazing with NXT.

[@darylhall2198]

i loved the helmet!

[@derekhawkcherokeefire]

Way sexier than jade. They should replace with EM. 🤘🔥🔥

[@wnrr2696]

Why replace lol why not have both

[@cornelioust2165]

That's not true at all

[@jayburnham3994]

relax

[@mrlaidback83]

@@wnrr2696 lol my thoughts exactly. Both are sexy as hell imho.

[@jj204]

Another person who blames everyone but herself.

[@yujirohanma5199]

Vince: "Hey, Killer Kross. I see you're really popular down in NXT. Let's move you to RAW n make you a Gimp."

[@jorgecarrilloestrada]

And we will fire you

[@johnytwotimes4072]

NXT was a 30 minute show once a week (an hour at most) and these writers couldn't take the time to watch it so it would not only benefit the performers but also them and the company that they work for?! That seems absurd to me!

[@Emperor_x8]

When you think about it gets even worse you don't have the 10 minutes to probably have a conversation or look up online to understand what this person is when you're working with them?

[@burntvirtue]

Huh? It was always an hour a week show.

[@Ahmed-og2jm]

Yeah an hour

[@MJ-sm2yu]

The writers are too busy writing compelling storylines for Raw & Smackdown.. NOT 😂

[@thecane]

this what happens when u get tv writers and such that are not wrestling fans as writers.

[@remmy1219]

That is unacceptable. It should be at least some of the writers’ responsibility to know the talent’s persona well before being called up. Tragic how frequently creative teams ruin the talent! Not just WWE!

[@matthill5426]

It should be somebody's responsibility to verbally smack some sense into Stephanie, fire ALL the "writers" (those were her idea), and go back to unscripted promos and a booker to make the matches and set the overall direction they're going in. Cornette and Brian Last watch WWE RAW, Smackdown, NXT, and AEW, plus do two podcasts per week, plus Cornette runs a mail-order business, plus Last runs how many other podcasts? And they're not even employed in pro wrestling anymore. Fuck these lazy, hack, bum writers.

[@remmy1219]

@@matthill5426 Stephanie has got to be regretting it. What car riders that can’t find something for someone who is this talented? And many others? Same thing goes for AEW. AEW Dark=Main Event/Catering

[@terrenceharris-hughes4436]

Agreed

[@josephgonzalez7819]

@@remmy1219 who has Vince regret letting go of in recent years besides drew and Cody ?

[@remmy1219]

@@josephgonzalez7819 two different conversations altogether. I never said Vince had any regrets. I am talking about writers not having enough background knowledge to serve the talent properly.

[@LonelyIslandKid09]

Imagine that your job is watching wrestling and you STILL don’t do it.

[@mielissa100ify]

You would think fans and people that love wrestling would be all through the business but no it’s people who are all about money. Sadly that’s always been wrestling.

[@FightOstinFight]

She said exactly what I have known for years. And once H was removed NXT has become pure garbage

[@starbreaker269]

Giving triple h way too much credit

[@FightOstinFight]

@@starbreaker269 lol. Sure. It was incredibly clear the product was better under his guidance. And now that Vince is in control it’s painfully clear. And I guess coming from the actual wrestlers mouths isn’t proof enough for your feeble mind

[@josephgonzalez7819]

@@FightOstinFight it lost a shit load of money and it didn’t develop prospects like it was supposed to. In reality 1.0 was a failure

[@Triple-Four]

@@josephgonzalez7819 You're so full of shit that it spewed into your comment. 90% of the current roster are 1.0 guys and girls. Seth Rollins was the first ever NXT champion and he's been a main eventer ever since 2011. NXT 1.0 made tons of stars and a lot of those stars are in AEW, Impact, and NJPW now because their names carry value. Get off the drugs.

[@FightOstinFight]

@@josephgonzalez7819 what prospects are you referring to? Finn Balor? Alister Black? Ember Moon? Asuka? Kari Sane? Adam Cole? Karrion Kross? Samoa Joe? Keith Lee? Authors of Pain? Sanity? Ascension? Tyler Breeze? All enormous talent that were super over on NXT. All get called up to main roster (cough run and micromanaged by Vince) and get buried almost INSTANTLY and then tossed aside. All of that is developing talent. If 1.0 is a failure 2.0 is worse. It has NO stars other than Breaker and Tomasso. After that the well is bland and dry. Nice troll attempt tho.

[@deathtrap2672]

Ember is one of the best female workers in wrestling today , but those hacks in the writers’ meetings didn’t know what to do with her because they’re clueless.

[@sergiocornejo2164]

No charisma

[@JamrockChris88]

@@sergiocornejo2164: Is that what the main “E” told you? Lmao

[@JacksonLane02]

NXT 2.0 is ok but it's not as great as the Black and Gold NXT. I feel like Black and Gold NXT was great because Triple H has history of playing a character and being involved in storylines along with competing in Wrestling matches with said character while Vince barely has any Wrestling experience as a full time competitor. Triple H brought what he learned about booking during his Wrestling experience and put it in NXT while Vince flushes what makes wrestlers great down the drain most of the time.

[@deathtrap2672]

NXT 2.0 is totally unwatchable . I really do miss Black & Gold NXT .

[@Muhammad_mujataba]

@@deathtrap2672 me too. Triple h should be chairman after vince.

[@deathtrap2672]

@@Muhammad_mujataba Rumors suggest that Nick Khan will take charge of things once Vince passes away.

[@cliffordjackson3]

@@deathtrap2672 OH GOD.

[@djchillout91]

Thank god theres aew who gives a placd for those wrestlers.... even if they need to find a way to book guys like andrade, malakai or pac better. Still better than being burried im the Main roster.. Just Look what they do to guys like balor, nakamura or drew gulak

[@oliver.s2165]

My god, this just further solidifies that HHH had nxt in such a good & promising place. (imo 2017-2019 were the best years) but when VKM, BP & Co. Wanted to take over? that's when it all fell apart. just imagine how amazing WWE will be again once VKM either steps down from power, or steps off the planet. 🤷‍♂️ We could even possibly get WWE openly collaborating with other promotions!

[@sergiocornejo2164]

Did you not see the ratings 😂😂😂

[@oliver.s2165]

@Honest youtubr clearly you're just a simple casual who loves the 24/7 title skits & hates Pro Wrestling, But hey if that's what you think, that's your opinion.

[@uriel4274]

@Honest youtubr right they’re just mad it’s not like roh anymore

[@josephgonzalez7819]

Nxt 1.0 failed to develop prospects like it was supposed to do. Bringing in older indy talent went against that

[@oliver.s2165]

@@josephgonzalez7819 Pete dunne, andrade, aliester black, KILLER Kross, Neville(PAC) Tomasso Ciampa, Johnny Gargano and OFCOURSE - ADAM COLE-BAYBAY! just to name a few, would beg to differ....

[@NickPR87]

Let's be real, the amount of people they've actually been able to call up and use correctly is embarrassingly low compared to the ones they've had no idea how to book. I'd understand if the character they had in NXT doesn't click with people after they've given them a chance, but they just give up on gimmicks so easily and put them in even worse gimmicks than what they failed as.

[@NoNonsense77]

Sure. That is why 90% of the main roster was in NXT dumb butt.

[@kj2valid619]

Finn Balor went from the amazing Prince Devitt who is highly praised in NJPW and then he goes to WWE and he’s just there…another wrestler on the roster

[@JR-he6fn]

That’s ridiculous that those writers don’t know who is on NXT. Sure, they aren’t on that brand but isn’t it their job to know what’s going on with their product

[@thestanman1486]

The fact that WWE writers don't even watch NXT or atleast know the people and storylines going on there makes so much sense. It explains literally everything.

[@7ngel]

Writers aren’t wrestling fans they’ve never watched wrestling besides what little they have to for their job

[@thestanman1486]

@@7ngel yeah but you'd think they'd atleast know what is happening in nxt. How is there not any form of communication between nxt writers and main roaster writers?

[@7ngel]

@@thestanman1486 bc that’s how the company is ran. That’s why WWE has been terrible for the past 14 years

[@RampageRich]

They are a bunch of failed Hollywood and TV writers that only took the job for a paycheck. If literally another production would hire them they wouldn't be there

[@100Stratusfiedx]

@@7ngel funny you bring this up. I kind of recall someone I’m the business mentioning that they don’t want huge fans or “marks” working for them.

[@JackgarPrime]

How do you not even know someone is not just in a tag team, but is one of the tag team champions before you call them up individually? At least ask what's going on with someone, can you do that much? This whole situations is absurd. She was right to leave.

[@rogerramon3151]

I always thought ember is hot

[@heartbreakkid2]

Factz

[@Crosby4ever]

Hope Ember ends up in either Impact or AEW she is so talented and those promotions treat their wrestlers with more respect and let them be themselves and don't tell what to say That is way Jeff Hardy said the best thing he did is leave WWE cause WWE now is pretty much garbage expect for a few wrestlers and he seems way happier and found his love for wrestling back again

[@thomasmcrae5153]

Ember Moon deserve much more respect then what they gave her.

[@kennethj1190]

I love her work and Damn She's So Beautiful 😍

[@eLite-Tiss91]

Me and Ember feel the same way about hunter WWE would be SOOOOOO MUCH BETTER UNDER HIS WATCH

[@OscillatorCollective]

I love her honestly… I think she will be a pioneer in exposing the BS of wwe…

[@Drawcaces]

I think also they don't have enough wrestlers willing to put "new guys"over. Gladiator part 🤣🤣

[@andrewjacksonbr]

Vince chose his WWE writing staff over teen/young adult fans, talent, and logic. And the fact that most lifelong wrestling fans CANNOT watch 10 minutes of WWE currently tells you how little he cares. 🖕wWE

[@willa5701]

Man, it's terrible now...one time I decided to watch a finn balor match a month or two ago and the match was 9 mins, but the whole segment took 30 mins. Lots of recaps, commercials, ring entrances, etc...just awful presentation and waste of my time. Finn Balor was prob in the ring for 20 mins before the match finally ever got started. smh

[@death8012]

New wrestling fans want this in a night 100 flips, 100 superkicks, 100 high spots, a ladder spot, a table spot, NO selling finishing moves, No selling weapon shots, 30 false finishes. Which is why AEW has got a lane these new fans like that kind of No physcology extra choreographed looking wrestling.

[@andrewjacksonbr]

@@death8012 Not true, AEW has no new fans just people that love leg slaps. Most wrestling fans are like former UFC champion Daniel Cormier. Gen Zers don’t watch wrestling, Millennials have moved on, and Gen-Xers hates modern wrestling. That’s the real problem wrestling is losing fans and creating no new fans.

[@uriel4274]

@@andrewjacksonbr exactly

[@DukeDarkshadow]

It's completely absurd that the people who are RESPONSIBLE for your entire TV career aren't required to know who you are prior to getting called up. It makes perfect sense now why no one from NXT ever made it big on the main roster. If these writers don't know a thing about your character, your abilities, or your connection with the crowd, how the hell are they gonna properly give you anything to do on TV?

[@AceLopez1]

There also needs to be a sense of realism on WWE TV. Let the talent be themselves, no forced robotic promos and don’t remove their first name-that’s what kills careers.

[@PaddySwan]

It blows my mind how they expect commentators to be on top of everything going on across all the shows, but not the goddamn writers of the product?

[@JimReuterskiold]

So, Ember is saying the writers, etc. don't DO THEIR JOBS by doing their homework and finding out who the performers are and what they were doing on NXT. This heavy burden would involve ACTUALLY WATCHING THE DAMN SHOW ON TV, and they can't be bothered. Clearly it's the wrestlers' fault; they should just know how to make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Now I am depressed.

[@markie5287]

I understand not everyone is involved in NXT but the "writers" or whoever is involved it should be part of tbr job responsibility that you are keeping up with NXT or see who's ready to come up. I don't understand the disconnect its bull shit

[@killergrooves2438]

NXT was 1 hour a week before Ember got called up to the main roster. They couldn’t spare an hour a week to watch NXT? It should be part of the staff’s job. It just goes to show how little the writing staff cares about wrestling or the lack of pride in their jobs. At least do some research. The best writers in Hollywood have always done research. Got hired to make an X-Men movie in 2000? You did your research. This is why the writers WWE hired couldn’t hack it in Hollywood. My uncle had a 40-year career in Hollywood including writer, director, and producer. Everyone worth their salt did research as the first step of any project.

[@rabbijoe316]

Besides her look, her overall ability, and her appeal to the younger demos, please give me a list of finishers cooler than the Eclipse. Not many things could possibly be cooler than a diving corkscrew stunner. If i employ a wrestler who can do that, i'd be an idiot to not give her decent creative & plenty of opportunities to show the rest of her arsenal.

[@BrayzenBull]

"So... Over" When she turned up.

[@ZealKingdom]

She is unbearably cute. Add all the talent, and she is just perfect!

[@iamtrestone]

She’d be a good fit for AEW as far as known faces to the division

[@billywashere6965]

I feel like AEW needs to get into a groove first before bringing in anymore people.

[@iamtrestone]

@@billywashere6965 the women division needs more known faces. The male division is swarmed you’re right about that but the women’s division needs more

[@benespinosa6725]

NXT 2.0 shouldn't have Happened and I don't watch NXT Anymore because it's boring it's basically Monday Night Raw and Friday night smackdown on Tuesday Nights and people in the IWC aren't covering it anymore and I don't Blame them one bit.

[@mgtwrestling123]

How do u know it's boring if u don't watch it

[@Itz_brandon]

It's really not that bad they still have sort of the same quality matches from the black and gold era.

[@cornelioust2165]

@@mgtwrestling123 because in order to form an educated opinion on something you need to know the subject.. you won't know if you like or dislike something by NOT knowing anything about it that's absurd

[@deathtrap2672]

@@mgtwrestling123 I watched it & it’s the absolute shits. I dunno whether you watched BLACK & GOLD NXT , but it was a fantastic wrestling show which I used to tune in for every single week .

[@mgtwrestling123]

@@deathtrap2672 nxt2.0 is not any better or worse than nxt black and gold it still generates the same numbers I think you focus too much on the colours

[@arturoalmazan5262]

she had the potential In nxt but once she was drafted to the main roster she was ruined. they have released Dakota kai already and I'm afraid most of nxt women's talent will be key go soon too . has anyone heard of Xia li ? nope. she was doomed from the beginning. I hope ember moon goes to another promotion like Impact not that aew crap

[@Zulu-Lemon]

NXT doesn’t even look like the same product anymore

[@Vesperitis]

If the crowd is not going to pop for a wrestler, you know whose fault that is? THE PROMOTION. "Oh, nobody will watch this goofy movie. nobody knows who this raccoon and tree are!" Everybody was saying that Guardians of the Galaxy was a stupid idea, but Disney and Marvel promoted the crap out of that show with segments and trailers, later there was word of mouth, and people went to watch it! And now it's one of the MCU's biggest cash cows, Baby Groot is a massive merch seller, and Dave Batista is a bigger name than when he was in WWE! WWE doesn't know how to PROMOTE its own best wrestlers! And when wrestlers fail to get over because of idiotic repackages or weak booking, they blame the wrestlers!

[@brokenluis1851]

Exactly

[@alston336]

This interview was a total indictment of current WWE. I really don’t think I’m a fan of this company any longer. Shows are bland, they treat talent like shit. Done.

[@arturoalmazan5262]

go ahead and watch your aew crap simp. no one cares

[@paulearl8203]

I'm hearing " I'm jealous of Mandy"

[@mickeymojito]

Well I guess that explains Butch.

[@goldenbrowngod]

it looks like the WWE should find away to help the writers to better transition the wrestlers coming from NXT. Do things like have to watch some of the wrestlers matches, get a cliff notes breaking down their character and/or them just talking to the wrestler

[@johnnyace2287]

They treat women even worse 😕

[@ShortyRock801]

They might know who you are so we’re going to completely forget about who you were

[@GreenAdam313]

The RAW writers don’t watch NXT? That’s pathetic! You could argue that they don’t need to watch Impact and AEW. But how do you NOT know the headliners on NXT Takeover?

[@Spoeism]

WWE eexcuse of not knowing who their NXT talent is.....how is that at all respectable from a professional and business standpoint?? Speaking as a writer what do WWE writers do all week?? Cause WWE depth of writing is shallow. So if they're not researching, brainstorming, pitching ideas and staying up to date on both NXT and pop culture, what do they do?? WWE is beyond amateurish and dysfunctional. Vince is a peacocking dilettante.

[@thertheory2909]

I think this is a major loss for WWE and Win for AEW. Embers old gimmick slightly tuned and heel could easily get over and ever put her in one of the top spots with Charlotte, Becky and Bianca. Rowsy aint over!

[@Juiczey]

So nxt developmental is just another show. Its not developmental if you have to reinvent yourself when coming to raw or smackdown.

[@blablablaa14]

Sorry the writers don't know who you are as a character? Isn't their job to watch you in NXT so they see it? Isn't every writer watching the WWE product? That's like a MLB scout not watching the minor leagues

[@Mysticblue1212]

I really don't like the writers for wwe. Honestly I think they should fire all the writers instead of the wrestlers if they're looking to save money. Then they can hire hungry good writers right out of college. My question is how can you be expecting to be successful as a writer if you don't bother to get off your ass and learn about the characters you're writing for? Just kind of seems like a question a writer should be asking.

[@Melonhead313]

With the name changes and everything else WWE does when transitioning from NXT, obviously the main roster is a cancer. Why build stars who have a following only to basically erase it when they get moved up? Or even worse release them. WWE is clearly a broken mess. Adrienne looking fine here also!

[@roshandmatabick6676]

NXT lost the wednesdays night wars because of creative freedom. One promotion trusts its wrestlers. The other does not.

[@innocentmusonda9480]

Makes me wonder if those writers on Raw and Smackdown are even wrestling fans. 🤔

[@Rated_RMN]

This right here one of the reasons m brother and I no longer take in rubbish WWE programming.

[@Soulofaman]

That’s garbage and it’s telling why so many talent and the wwe brand it’s self is trash

[@anthonyperrett8617]

wwe are ruining too many great wrestlers i would of liked ember in edges group

[@Njbear7453]

If she stayed healthy she could’ve been special!

[@KJon25]

Here last comment in this clip made all the sense in the world.

[@doubles7533]

She's so gorgeous :)

[@Eric-ew8jt]

Ember 🌙 is 🔥🔥🔥💯

[@aa_da_man]

They Did Karrion Kross Wrong 2

[@kelseykjarsgaard5774]

Wow wwe that seperate from nxt

[@uriel4274]

It’s not a Indy fed anymore

[@AndreaRebek]

the fact that the staff didn't know the nxt talents is just stupid. nxt was the roster for talent to grow how can you not watch it and know your future... man if you are a writer you should watch a little bit form all over

[@innocentmusonda9480]

That is so messed up...

[@PAPAJOHANNESPATRIOT]

One of my frustrations with WWE is the lack of preparation done before a wrestler is physically promoted to the main roster. Too often a talent is so successful on NXT, but often Vince/Creative doesn't know what to do with him/her, another talent is fired. Sometimes it will be reported that Vince "doesn't get that person." Huh?? He's the one responsible for the promoting, isn't he?? Why would a employer promote an employee without a reason. Okay, I get it. Different writing staff needs to get to know the newly promoted. Why aren't the writers busy getting to know them before they make the jump? The NXT wrestlers have a rapport with their writers. Sometimes things work out but other times Vince/Creative don't have the foggiest idea what to do with them. To say that Vince/Creative is not as creative as the NXT writers might be rude. Why couldn't NXT writers communicate with Vince/Creative to make the best transition possible? I don't know how much advance notice is given so the 2 writing staffs could do things. An NXT storyline is left dangling. By the 2 staffs communicating they might be able to utilize at least some of what has been prepared. Simply switching opponents likely would not work, but something could be accomplished. Vince/Creative should have story ideas ready to use that would provide 4-8 weeks of matches for the newly promoted wrestlers. I cringe when I see a story about WWE wrestlers being "released" when plain-speaking, they've been fired. And some that have been "released" had made WWE plenty of dough. There's an old phrase about killing the goose that laid the golden eggs. And those "no compete" clauses stink. What about wrestlers who are non-American citizens here on work visas? If they can't find new employment quickly enough before their visas expire, they have to go back home.

[@kellybraille]

I feel like this could so easily be solved by like... one .doc file of your characters history. "Here's my character, here are my past rivalries, here are the belts I held, etc." The real truth is that they don't CARE about the people coming in, and their history and characters. Which is just... bad business. Learn how to utilize your staff, good grief. Unprofessional.

[@Mr.HootieHooRDK]

I feel like if you're a writer for the WWE you should know who the wrestlers are and that includes NXT.

[@HarleyLocal605]

I feel that if someone is a writer at WWE they should be writing the movies and whatnot that the company produces with their wrestlers, as writers have no place in wrestling. Bookers and road agents, it's all that's necessary.

[@lcb-]

At the end the day the WWE is a business and the reality is Ember is not a draw or a money maker. It is the talents role to get themselves over if not then you will have a limited career push. She was talking about dressing like Mandy Rose, but she wears the same amount of clothing as Mandy Rose. A lot of these WWE wrestlers are hypocrites they complain about dressing 'sexy' or being 'sexualised' but six months later they are on OnlyFans making money based on how they look.

[@matthill5426]

So... these jerkoff writers can't watch their own company's developmental program to know who you are? Sounds like some childish, bullshit office politics to me.

[@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134]

NXT is Triple H’s baby so yes if he’s not controlling it then it’s gonna go down under more time period point blank 🤷🏾‍♂️✅.

[@raidertheconqueror3818]

never seen bunch of wealthy people moaning about thier job as much as ex WWE Wrestlers

[@hooraayy]

Don’t the writers at least have meeting or files about NXT? WWE is acting like a disorganized start up company

[@GameTime-yj6qv]

If it was just some nxt stars that didn't pan out in the wwe, you could blame the talent. But when the vast majority of nxt stars that were over on nxt fizzle out in the wwe, then it's a problem with creative. That's why so few superstars have been made in the last 15 years.

[@kamalaswallows2024]

yuummmy😛🥰

[@RS-cd9cf]

She couldn’t make it in the big leagues so now blame everyone else but yourself

[@jorgecarrilloestrada]

Isn't wwe the big leagues like everyone is says?

[@m.y1152]

The streets won't forget how good NXT was.

[@blade8989]

Fhfhfh

[@javonbrandon]

Did tripple h leave because the heart problem

[@thundercloud280_]

Lmao what wrestling fan in 2018 is gonna go to the Raw after Wrestlemania, but not know top NXT wrestlers. Raw after Wrestlemania is always filled with hardcore wrestling fans, and hardcore fans loved NXT during that time period

[@gottigotti6079]

By hardcore you mean Smarks

[@DannyCosmos]

Triple H needs to take over all of wwe

[@Mr.HootieHooRDK]

I don't know if maybe it should be required that if you work for the WWE you should watch their program.

[@jorgecarrilloestrada]

Didn't they hired a writter that never watch wrestling and called the wwe champion ashley?

[@Nauseousrap]

What kind of shit is that tho, like how do the writers not watch nxt

[@jorgecarrilloestrada]

Cuz vince was never cared of nxt b&g

[@spidalive7986]

W

[@randomrickreviewsrrr4662]

WWE Dropped the ball with Ember Moon .

[@jorgecarrilloestrada]

And many other wrestlers :/

[@lotokiba851]

Ember shouldn't be a wrestler she sucked and they booed her out the Building every night especially against Asuka in their feud and Asuka was the heel.

[@randomrickreviewsrrr4662]

@@lotokiba851 eh Once I saw Ember Wrestle I was a fan great in ring skills and feud with Asuka is what got me watching WWE again. Not so much anymore. WWE Main show writers are living in the past. They just dropped her feud with Mandy, then also had a NO build match against at the time BABYFACE BAYLEY which made no sense. Every booking you can SEE them drop the ball.

[@lotokiba851]

@@randomrickreviewsrrr4662 dude ember sucked let it go she barely got reactions he moves were horried and wasn't it her match with Charlotte flair the reason they got the leg slap banned in the first place .

[@randomrickreviewsrrr4662]

@@lotokiba851 Her moves are solid probably one of the best in ring wrestlers in the women's div. Eclipse, Springboard cross body, forward handspring elbow. through rope dive. etc..

[@matthill5426]

Gee, imagine if it were like the territories, where the wrestler would get trained and decide, "I'm going to do a cowboy thing, or an All-American football thing, that'll be my thing!" Then he sent in audition and demo tapes to different promoters (WWE, AEW, AAA, New Japan...) and the promoter decides, "Yeah, I can use that thing! I'll take you for six months, a year, two years!"

[@maddognogood8346]

I love Ember Moon, but at the height of the black & gold they turned Asuka heel and Ember still got booed out of the building during their fued. I just think she never connected.

[@theyliveinthematrixofthefa4437]

I'll tell ya how, because it stank , that's how

[@lotokiba851]

Guys ember moon sucked and couldn't wrestle why do people like her? Her character is confusing her promos sucked she was terrible. Where are these fans from for her?

[@jonathanshungu40]

No she doesn’t and you don’t know her talent and her accomplishments

[@lotokiba851]

@@jonathanshungu40 name a promo or match that is rememberable she ever had? Or even good ones I'll wait.

[@jonathanshungu40]

@@lotokiba851 - Winning the NXT Women’s Championship in a Fatal Four Way Match - Her vs Asuka was one of most memorable storylines

[@godphoenix66x]

The creative process will always be a mess and incoherent as long as Vince McMahon is alive and breathing. And that's unfortunate

[@smallville316619]

Boo hoo.

[@Ahmed-og2jm]

Aye a WWE bitch boy good job

[@spicykso]

Let me guess, 35-40 years old? Balding? Overweight?

[@godemperorletoatreidesii1318]

@@spicykso You shouldn't talk to her fanbase like that.

[@sergiocornejo2164]

Nxt 2.0 is way better

[@yadonegoofed1427]

How?

[@sergiocornejo2164]

@@yadonegoofed1427 Bringing in new characters and future stars instead of people just using their indie name it doesn't sound like much but it makes a hell of a difference when you realize how much charisma really matters in wrestling not just in ring skills

[@daniellawal7665]

@@sergiocornejo2164 you ain’t watching the same product

[@yadonegoofed1427]

What's wrong with wrestlers using their names from the independent scene?

[@sergiocornejo2164]

@@daniellawal7665 Were you watching the same show? Did you not see how people like Adam Cole or Keith Lee were doing absolutely nothing for the ratings? Losing to aew over and over again that's why vince stepped in got rid of everybody and started new

[@generalgrievous5483]

So? Tf ? Dudes wear undies and flex their muscles too appearing hot and presentable isn't a bad thing... And great job throwing Mandy under the bus, was no need to drop names like that

[@JackgarPrime]

You didn't understand her issue at all. The problem is that they were trying to make all the women the same. Not that there was anything wrong with Mandy, but the fact that they wanted everyone to look like that when they all already had their own looks and gimmicks they worked and that sort of look didn't fit who they were, that's the problem.

[@jorgecarrilloestrada]

Right after she said that mandy is a great person