American Army Veteran Reacts "Alan Turing - The Scientist Who Saved The Allies"

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[@jimmydodds7897]

There's a statue of Turin in Manchester. Not stood on any plinth but sat on a park bench in a quiet corner of a park near the village, in the city. Every anniversary it gets swathed in flowers.

[@nickscott8541]

Fantastic statue, I never even dare to sit next to it because I'm not worthy

[@viviennerose6858]

As a southerner I take my hat off to Manchester for recognising and respecting true greatness. Thank You doesn't even begin to cover the gratitude I feel.

[@TenCapQuesada]

The movie "U 571" about the capture of an enigma machine caused such a furore in Britain that Tony Blair and Bill Clinton got involved - it said that the Americans captured it when in fact it was the British. Even the writer later said that it was a distortion of the facts.

[@ianmuir3640]

It’s always the Americans coming to the rescue

[@rde4017]

@@ianmuir3640 Usually 2 years too late...

[@eamonnsaunders7066]

Just like in the film Saving private Ryan at the start with the landing craft been seen to be driven by US sailors when in fact it was Royal Navy Sailors that actually did it! It was a deliberate omission by the Director for the purpose of an American domestic audience!

[@marywood8794]

I'm a dreaded American. It's not surprising that we're trying to rewrite your history. We do it all the time with ours. Now here they don't even bother. They just ban books that tell the truth. We shouldn't be stealing British achievements, particularly as it pertains to WW2, where Britain was key to stopping the spread of fascism. The key reasons that we got into the war so late were the population's fear after WW1 of another world war and rampant anti semitism. So cowards and bigots, who often are one on the same.

[@adriangoodrich4306]

Not a distortion - a pack of outright lies! Total lies! HMS Bulldog captured the Enigma machine from U110 in May 1941- which, last time I checked, was over half a year before the US even entered the war. This was a truly disgraceful film, since it convinced many Americans of what was a total lie. It even caused a diplomatic incident between the UK and the US. Unfortunately, it was far from alone in ascribing to the US actions that were actually British.

[@strangelyjamesly4078]

Perhaps the greatest stain on Britain's reputation, IMO, is the treatment of Alan Turing. He should have been one of the most celebrated war time heroes in British history, but no. Abandoned, thrown to the wolves and left to die by his own hand. A sin that will never, nor should it ever be forgotten.

[@davidperry7128]

Oh come on, there are so many, the Empire was a systematic rape and pillage of other countries, inventing the 'concentration camp', starving millions of Bengalis during WW2, the opium wars, vast sums of money made from slavery and there are more...

[@nick7076]

Imagine what he could have accomplished had he lived into the 1970s. Bletchley was a hive of specialists, Turing was important but Tommy Flowers was also key. He had the technical knowledge to build the machine that Turing needed. Secrecy was so tight, that after the war people married and lived their whole lives not knowing they had worked in adjacent huts at Bletchley. They kept their secrets even in the marriage bed.

[@grrfy]

Wasn'y just Bletchley though either, a few other places running concurrently and also checking Bletchleys work,however very little gets written about those ase more working class folks worked there,not from the right schools or background

[@skillaxxx]

They did Tommy Flowers wrong too; his work not only not being recognized, but plainly stolen and it made IBM and the thieves billions whilst Tommy got jack ... aka only misery.

[@iriscollins7583]

​@@grrfyApparently one of the Aunts of Catherine, Princess of Wales, worked at Bletchley .😊

[@bevausterfield431]

It was Bill Tutte who cracked the Lorenz cypher. At the ripe old age of 22. Turing had the idea to automate the decryption to make sure the codes were cracked quickly enough to be useful, but it started with Tutte cracking the code.

[@peterjackson4763]

The Swedes also cracked it.

[@abarratt8869]

It's impossible to understate the impact Turing had. All of modern computing - literally all of it - hinges on his proof that one Turing machine could emulate another. That is what gives us CPUs, compilers, source code, web pages rendering, streaming video, the lot. This proof meant that, if you designed a "Turing complete" CPU, or a "Turing complete" programming language, then any problem could be tackled by any CPU or any programming language. He effectively pre-emptively proved that CPUs and software was able to do anything, given time and memory. And now look. Given that, ultimately, all that AI is is software running on CPUs or GPUs, he's underpinned that too. Turing Completeness wasn't essential for his war work; he had some very significant other ideas related to that. So, not only did he help win the war in less time, he then set up the entire computing industry that exists today.

[@shelley1319]

Do you mean "overstate"?

[@ZenzeroCAM]

And it’s all lead to this… me writing out this comment on a KZbin video whilst I take a massive shit. Beautiful.

[@davidperry7128]

Turing and the rest of the team.

[@vikingraider1961]

A side note about how effective the decoding was - on the run up to D-Day, the French resistance were give instructions to cut every telephone line that they could - partly, obviously, to disrupt the German communications but mostly to force the Germans to use encrypted radio transmissions - which Bletchley Park could read!

[@henriettafinch6057]

Bletchley was like the x men school. Some who worked there never revealed it to their family and friends and those who did waited years. Some, especially the men, we’re shunned as cowards for not fighting in the war as they couldn’t reveal the incredibly important roll they were playing.

[@davidmcintyre998]

There are so many ways a modern war is fought and sadly many can never ever get the credit they deserve, i can remember when the Ultra secret came out some years after the landmark World at War was produced and can say never had any inkling that it had happened they really did keep their mouths closed.

[@angelaauger169]

I really believe if Turing could see how we live now - how his ideas have been put into production - he would be thrilled. But what gets me, is how much further these ideas could have progressed if he had lived😢

[@waynekerrgoodstyle]

You may like to know that Alan's Great Nephew runs the charity called The Turing Trust I used to do Volunteer work for the trust. The trust takes donated old Laptops & PC's and refurbishes them and sends them to sub saharan african school children.

[@willrichardson1809]

My father worked with him when he moved down to Manchester and he never told any of us until the Imitation Game movie came out.

[@judywelch1044]

I appreciate the content you choose AND you dont talk over the video. Great job.

[@Paul-hl8yg]

Turin was ahead of most of the rest of Humanity & they proved that quite clearly with how they treated him.. Backwards minds murdering a genius. It makes you ponder, how alike at that time we were to the enemy we were fighting, in the ideas of the era about anyone different. 🇬🇧🇺🇸

[@mrfrye18]

Alan turing... what a guy! The imitation game is my favourite movie!

[@philiprowney]

I am waiting for the Churchill quote 'give them what they want!'

[@ericjackson9496]

Alan turing and gorden welch. Who set up intelligence in the CIA. Basically came up with the idea of the cloud. Two very brilliant minds

[@pauldear6660]

There is a 2014 film starring Benediction Cumberbatch playing the part of Alan Turing called, "The Imitation Game". It's well worth a watch. It was also found that Cumberbatch and Turing are distantly related. They are 17th cousins.

[@colonyofrats4193]

He’s related to Richard the third not Alan Turing

[@brianpoole4369]

alan turing, was born and raised in MANCHESTER......just to tie in...your favourite manchester band oasis...with noel, and liam gallagher...and their love for manchester city, football club....did you know, the main arterial road, leading into the stadium...is now called THE ALAN TURING WAY!!....all mancunians...alan, noel, and liam...but light years apart from each other..lol

[@abergreg]

Archimedes, Galileo, Da Vinci, Tesla, Einstein, Turing. Incomparable intellects. Its superhuman to conceive this, never mind building it too. America declared in 1944 that they had the worlds first functioning computer, we had to tell them that we'd had two since 1942.

[@markdavids2511]

This man was a genius & his treatment by the British government upsets me to this day. RIP Mr Turing.

[@timsimpson9367]

It was Tommy Flowers, who built the computer. He worked for the Post Office. Turing worked out the code. This was the breakthrough. We gave all the transmissions to the Russians for the battle of Kursk. and everything else. From there the Germans were lost. Information wins wars.

[@csiredbourn]

I recommend anyone who can visits Bletchley Park, it’s a phenomenal working museum and the enigma is unbelievable

[@arwelp]

At least in 2021 they got round to putting Turing on the back of the Bank of England £50 note - the highest denomination.

[@jamesalderson3685]

Thanks guys that was a good video

[@petermizon4344]

WHAT THE BRITISH GOV DID TO HIM IS UNDESCRIBIBLE, I AM ASHAMED TO BE ENGLISH, HE STOPPED A LOT WORSE THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED

[@ColmPadraig]

Then leave. A lot worse? What like? A homogenous Britain?

[@petermizon4344]

@@ColmPadraig TAKE YOU ARE A NAZI THEN,

[@rde4017]

Never be ashamed to be English, we have learnt the lessons from the mistakes made in the past. I'm sure our beloved Alan Turing would agree with me. x

[@tagKnife]

You should watch the Movie crated from Turings biography. Its a great reenactment of his thoughts, actions, difficuties and life.

[@Georgeolddrones]

Hi guys, watch your videos but don’t comment much but this one is brilliant. Thanks again from one of you old pensions in England 👍😂🍺🍺

[@Dexterschnauzer]

i work in bletchley, where he designed the device,

[@bernarddegrasse8753]

What would this world be like now if Alan Turing had lived to lead a normal life.Would the computer etc as we know it now be decades more advanced than it is now. The mind boggles.

[@ct5625]

It's such an incredible waste of human potential. He was so unfathomably intelligent, conceiving ideas decades before their time, and who knows what he could have done had he lived and been respected and listened to. We are probably more than a century behind because of this loss. Not only were his own ideas decades ahead of their time, their development would have led to a hastening of technological progress from peers and industry. Who knows where we might be had he lived.

[@janolaful]

I wish alan would of gone to prison he would of still been here iv never been so ashamed of being British thank you alan turing god bless 🙌

[@josefschiltz2192]

The way Alan Turing was treated was disgraceful. A man so instrumental in foiling the Nazis, yet the peace that he won was not afforded to his own peace and safety by an unjust bias, even hatred, towards his sexuality.

[@peterhopkins7505]

We are so much better today

[@philiprowney]

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[@grokitall]

people are getting a lot of stuff about u571 wrong. it was a real raid, and did capture what was stated in the film, but it was 2 years after the british captured the first one, and the film is hated because it claimed that the british would never have cracked the codes without it, whereas in fact the raid had no significance to anyone other than the americans.

[@kimbirch1202]

The Buddha actually discovered the relationship between thought and matter, 2,600 years ago.

[@philiprowney]

43:00 - that's so funny, that will work with ANY language older than English. [ because 'modern' English was the newest language in 1940 ] In short, English is so complicated any cypher in the 'English script' [ not Arabic etc ] is easier for an English speaker to decode.

[@BillySugger1965]

A fascinating story, rather simplified in this video, as it must to be of a reasonable length. A key missing element is the international contributions, particularly the Polish who actually invented the machine to crack the original Enigma (look up “Bomba” on Wikipedia) seven years before the war, and the US who replicated Turing’s machines and provided huge decryption resources to Bletchley Park. But the genius of Tommy Flowers, who built the first fully electronic computer, was kept hidden for national security reasons because the USSR and also many UK allies were using encryption based on Enigma, and the UK continued to spy on them until the 1980s.

[@darrenmorgan870]

I love how they still can't be nice because it wasn't an American crew that captured the u boat and saying they were lucky, there wasn't any luck involved it was all the code breakers ingenuity with Mr Turing at the head of the team, and if you find out about his life you will understand that when it comes to having luck in your life I can guarantee he wasn't one of them, come to think of it he did have quite a lot of luck the only problem was it was all bad luck,

[@stevegray1308]

A lot of encryption now is based on one simple mathematical fact - there is no formula to find the square root of a number, brute force is the only way. Get a big enough number and it is effectively impossible.

[@johngardiner6800]

What that didn't show was how a navel officer tried very hard to have his efforts cancelled.

[@charleshunter7626]

I can understand the big people in government worried about secrets getting out, but the way they went about was all wrong, great man ,his sexuality was his own, I wonder how many big wigs were closet guys anyway enjoy your documentary watching and how your demeanour changes,watching your reaction to the greatest raid of all time, for the 4th time, keep them coming.

[@rachelphillips9438]

I feel ashamed as a Brit that this brilliant man was treated so badly.

[@ajkulac9895]

As you should

[@waynekerrgoodstyle]

You may like to know that Alan's Great Nephew runs the charity called The Turing Trust I used to do Volunteer work for the trust. The trust takes donated old Laptops & PC's and refurbishes them and sends them to sub saharan african school children.

[@GrafindeKlevemark]

If you want more info on Alan Turning, read the book "Enigma", very interesting. Apparently Turning committed suicide -you may understand why.....

[@philiprowney]

paused @ 5 mins: You guys are going to get your hair blown back, trust! [ lol ]

[@johnneylin831]

turing was up there with dibnah

[@McKamikazeHighlander]

That U-Boat that the British captured was the same boat shown in the film U-571 - except the film has an entirely American crew take the boat. The US had not even entered the war yet. Typical

[@stewartmackay]

I'm a huge admirer of Turing and I love history & History Hit, but this documentary seems a bit weird to me. I don't know if it's the narrator, or the script, or just my brain.

[@DavidHeywood_Legend]

As a Brit it makes me feel ashamed that this country treated such a brilliant man who was owed so much gratitude in the way they did

[@ColmPadraig]

How did winning the war benefit the British people exactly? Did the men in the trenches want their grandchildren to be minorities in their own land? Did they fight for gay pride parades? The normalisation of Pedophilia? Well if that's the case, then the good guys lost the war

[@psychosoma5049]

It’s a shame thinking hasn’t moved on nearly as much as it should, people like us still get treated like scum….

[@nigethesassenach3614]

I totally agree with your comment. The man was a true hero.

[@kelvinmeneely3116]

Don't freak out, AT...is.. and always will be a legend... I'm straight,and do not care about his gender/sexuality...or any other aspect, apart from his intelligence....I would hug him tightly and thank him for his input into math's...etc..! Thanks Alan!

[@davidperry7128]

Shameful that this country treated ANYONE in the way he was treated, hero or not.

[@pauldurkee4764]

Much praise is of course given to Alan Turing for being the brilliant original thinker he was, but its fitting that Tommy Flowers gets a mention,a post office engineer possessed with genius to build Colossuss, the first progemmable electronic computer. May I also give a mention to two very brave Royal Navy men from HMS Petard, who boarded a sinking u boat to recover the enigma and its codebooks, and paid the price with their lives.

[@qtube1980]

mr flowers didn't hide the sausage, therefore not suitable for Holywood.

[@chrislewis4830]

Thank you so much you have mensioned the forgotten 2 navy men that contrary to popular belief were indeed English NOT American. As the films would make people belive otherwise. We ( the English )Was the First to capture the Enigma machine and the code books. Sorry i just hate the fact that these 2 men died to save the lifes of so many only to be replaced by fictional Americans steeling there glory and sacrifice. So my apologies for upsetting anyone or bursting bubbles of false pride

[@beadsy-dl5up]

The movie made about Alan Turing is called The Imitation Game starring Benedict Cumberbatch and is well worth watching

[@32446]

Great film

[@intothemindshaft]

100

[@LowGrav1ty]

I was literally going to suggest this! 😂 my personal favourite film ever 😌 I hope they watch it on the channel 🙏 🤞

[@skillaxxx]

I hate to be that guy, but the book it is based on (Alan Turing, The Enigma) is even better.

[@LowGrav1ty]

@@skillaxxx yeah... it may well be...but a reaction to a book wouldn't exactly be KZbin worthy would it? 😂 😂

[@stevegee7593]

Every body who talks about Colossus always mention that it was smashed up and buried in the park. What they don't mention was take there were six made one as said was smash 2 went to GC H.Q, the others disappeared over night along with 3 US lorries. Tommy Flowers wanted to build an Electronic Telephone Exchange but was refused funding because it was impossible. Unfortunately he could not say that he had already built one.

[@corringhamdepot4434]

I still remember watching the BBC TV film "Breaking the Code" 1996 starring Derek Jacobi. Based on a play It was heart breaking to watch how Turin was pursued and destroyed by an obsessive police officer. Particularly how the chemical "treatment" destroyed his mental ability to function as a mathematician.

[@hilarymiseroy]

That was a heavily fictionalised version of the truth.

[@chancerystone4086]

@@hilarymiseroy In what way? if you are going to refute it, be specific.

[@hilarymiseroy]

@@chancerystone4086Turing put himself into what was, at that time, a seriously compromised position. The young man he was involved with had a lengthy criminal record and was almost certainly a rent boy who set his victims up for blackmail or robbery. There have been unproven rumours that the police/MI5 believed Turing was a regular 'cottager' which would explain why MI5 did nothing to help him although the historian Max Hastings believes that they would have warned him about his behaviour but he ignored the warning. This was a time when Russia was infamous for using sexual blackmail to obtain information and created a paranoid atmosphere within the spook community.

[@billyhndrsn4542]

To know that your home country, which was saved from the Nazi war machine, because of your mathematical genius could not love the person they choose was the most mentally damaging to his psyche, then forced chemical warfare upon his male body because of their twisted notions of what is true and correct for Alan, pushed him to a breaking point. This is the ultimate shameful of a hero.

[@rde4017]

Alan Turing was a very British kind of superhero and is an LGBTQ+ legend. Re the Apple logo - Steve Jobs told Stephen Fry that the story is not true and said, "...but by God I wish it was."

[@Bearfacecat]

He's recognised on the back of the fifty pound note.

[@gabbymcclymont3563]

What happend to him is criminal, so sad, fora amazing man.

[@souljar9808]

Totally agree with you

[@Be-Es---___]

The proof that female hormones make you dumb 😅

[@daisymaisy4877]

Yes you're completely right he was a hero and instead of being cherished he was driven mad simply because he was gay, he deserved so much more.

[@thatsthat2612]

@@daisymaisy4877 agreed, that man was treated horribly, he's one of the reasons we arent speaking German, he should be honoured

[@blackcountryme]

It was of its time. It wasn't just the UK that treated people like that.

[@Steve-ys1ig]

Sadly the attitudes at the time were different. No other country would have treated him any better as the beliefs of the time were pretty universal. It is why both sides in the cold war were able to blackmail and threaten people because homosexuality or other indiscretions that would just not be a thing in modern times were considered weaknesses to be exploited.

[@karstenstormiversen4837]

Well you have the current situation in the US and some other extreemist countries in the world today! So it seems to me that the situation has not changed all that much in very middle age religious countries!

[@janetbrockbank323]

What an amazing man and how he suffered is appalling! 😳

[@janetbrockbank323]

Alan Turing should have been knighted and just because he was gay! Terrible behaviour, he should’ve been honoured for all his talent and legacy xx 💕

[@waynekerrgoodstyle]

You may like to know that Alan's Great Nephew runs the charity called The Turing Trust. I used to do Volunteer work for the trust. The trust takes donated old Laptops & PC's and refurbishes them and sends them to sub saharan african school children.

[@thedisabledwelshman9266]

i totally agree with you, but thats how it was dealt with in those days.

[@postman2758]

@@thedisabledwelshman9266I agree, that the treatment of anyone caught in a gay ‘encounter, relationship cruising’ chemical castration was barbaric, and the U.K. government haven’t done enough to compensate families who had loved ones forced into this by the law of the land. Alan Turing should have been posthumously given a knighthood or maybe a public holiday given on Alan’s birthday for his services to this country, and the Allied countries.

[@iriscollins7583]

​@@thedisabledwelshman9266Unfortunately.

[@dr.zacking2097]

Thanks for that guys, same home town as him....clever as fuck, did so much and treated like a scum sucker.....disgrace....he's a proper hero.....everyone who uses any type of computer or smart phone as a fall out from his work owes him.....which is everyone who sees this at least....thanks again, really pleased you picked this up 👏👍

[@suckered1316]

He is not unsung , he is one of the most known names now. The unsung ones are the ones that went down in a hail of bullets on d day beaches, the ones whose names are totally unknown by most people. Sure he was treated badly at the time due to the situation with his sexuality which was not right clearly but a sign of the times. Turing is known by everyone, certainly not forgotten.

[@TheMeerkat2323]

To say that Alan Turing was one of the greatest Brit's who ever lived is a MASSIVE understatement, it was his brain that came up with the forerunners of all modern computers and computing, his team that cracked what was thought to be an uncrackable code(Enigma), and he was the darling of the British government during WWII but as soon as the war ended, the government turned their back on him in the worst way possible. It was only after the war ended that they suddenly remembered that he was gay, and at the time, being gay was illegal, and they treated him like shit and with such utter contempt, the fact that they chemically castrated him after being such a hero just a few short years earlier just showed their contempt of him. The way he was treated by the government is one of the biggest stains in British history, right up there with the slave trade as far as I'm concerned. He helped end the war much earlier than it would have ended without him, computers wouldn't be what they are today without him, meaning the whole world would have been completely different if it wasn't for him and his unimaginably brilliant brain. When it came to cracking Enigma, he was helped in a huge way with the help of a very stupid German person, in order for them to keep Enigma "uncrackable" they had to wind the machine on one click per day to the next setting, this German forgot to click it over, and so Turing and his team had 2 days worth of codes with the same setting instead of different ones, and that led to them discovering Enigma's secret quicker, but with how brilliant Alan and his team were, they were sure to break it sooner or later anyway

[@adriangoodrich4306]

I think you downplay the subsequent vital role of Tommy Flowers, who designed and built the world's first programmable electronic computer ("Colossus"). That made an equally-massive difference to the code-breaking. Around a dozen were built. As usual, because of obsessive British secrecy and the total crazy inability of the British Civil Service to recognise a huge commercial opportunity even if it hit them in the face, all but two of the machines were destroyed immediately after the war. And it was left to Westinghouse and ENIAC to claim and receive all the credit for one of the most significant inventions of the 20the century.

[@TheMeerkat2323]

@@adriangoodrich4306 I did say Turing and his team, a team which included Tommy Flowers. Every single person who worked at Bletchley Park were very special people in their own right, they all did an amazing job, and I daresay that after the war ended, everyone who worked there right down to the tea lady, cooks and washer uppers were proud to have been linked to that place

[@adriangoodrich4306]

@@TheMeerkat2323Fair enough - I guess I just get a bit touchy when I think Turing gets all the credit (not that he himself, one of my personal heroes, did not deserve massive credit, obviously!) and especially how Flowers was often airbrushed out. But, more to the point, it just seems to me that Turing, Flowers, the Poles, everyone involved were treated dreadfully by the establishment and by the history that they wrote. Turing of course worst of all. And how, as with so much else technological during the war, all the spoils and most of the credit unfairly passed to the US. What to me was most amazing was how all those thousands who deserved every accolade our country could bestow upon them never spoke about what they had done or achieved. And what was most upsetting, was how they were never allowed to be recognised for the millions of lives they saved.

[@TheMeerkat2323]

@@adriangoodrich4306 it is absolutely shocking how they were all treated, Turing, Flowers, every single one of them, I cannot comprehend the types of brain these people had, they certainly weren't normal brains like the rest of us have

[@adriangoodrich4306]

@@TheMeerkat2323 Quite a few were on the spectrum. And they did more than so many others to save our country, and western civilisation. We owe so much to these heroes, who were never recognised in their lifetimes.

[@michaelnolan6951]

It's fitting (and quietly hilarious) that a statue of Turing sitting on a park bench looks out over Manchester's Gay Village.Specifically, Ground Zero of the village, Canal Street, (often with. street signs edited to Anal Treet)

[@soozb15]

😊

[@LoneRanger100]

And we still have Americans, very recently, asking us if we ‘have computers in England’, as one asked a relative on a flight to Heathrow. Yeah, we only invented them, and the internet. You’re welcome. Have you got electric kettles yet?

[@davidmcintyre998]

I have often wondered how many of those who persecuted him maybe even murdered him he had saved their lives.

[@gritnix]

I got to visit the museum at Bletchly a few months ago. It really was moving. As is said below, imagine what humanity might have had if we hadn't persecuted the man and driven him to taking his own life.

[@gar6446]

Post-war, all that happened at Bletchley was kept secret. All the staff had signed the official secrets act and generally it was all kept secret until the '70's. Alan Turing, a known homosexual ( still illegal ) must have been considered a security threat due to possible blackmail, and in certain circles his premature death would have been considered a tidy end to a possibly embarrassing situation in the future. Given his background Special Branch could easily have nipped his prosecution in the bud had they wanted to.

[@Mike-rw2nh]

23:48 I can’t help but reflect that the people who worked at Bletchley would have been incarcerated in death camps by the Nazis. Thank you for this upload.

[@nellieknifton]

The history of Alan Turing is so wonderful and so sad at he same time. His brilliance, and those who worked with him, shorten the war and yet the government repaid him in such a way due to the bigoted view of the time. Whilst same sex relationships were honoured by various culture groups such as Romans, Greeks and Native Americans, the church made it illegal. Each to their own, it would be a very boring world if we were all the same, and no one should be persecuted for their sexual orientation.

[@johnruddick686]

When I was young my headmaster worked at Bletchley park on the enigma code. She was a section chief. Definitely one of the most intelligent people I have ever met she spoke multiple European languages and was a magnificent mathematician. Educated at Cambridge she was amazing and greatly loved by everyone her funeral was massive hundreds of people attended including many of her Bletchley park alumni. Her dog walked up and down the school driveway for three days before realising she wasn't coming home and a few days later, I truly believe, died of a broken heart. 💔 🐕

[@johnruddock6278]

Well said 😊thanks

[@johnruddick686]

@@johnruddock6278 hey nice name btw....

[@chrisharris5497]

The way the British Government treated was both equally disgraceful and heartbreaking. I know times have changed since those days but how anyone during those days could have hold their hands up and say his treatment was just and humane astounds me. The Imitation Game was one of the most tragic films I have ever watched. The fact he received a royal pardon posthumously in 2013 means nothing in my book, yes it must men something to his family but the ideal thing would have been to treat a man who saved so many lives by ending the war early with the respect he deserved.

[@gyver8448]

On that last part, it's worth noting that no one involved with his conviction knew about his service during the war. It wouldn't make it right even if he hadn't been a war hero, but just worth pointing out.

[@jonathangoll2918]

One good thing came out of Turing's death. There was some dismay among some top people - including I believe Winston Churchill - and the result was the Wolfenden Report of 1957, which recommended legalisation of homosexuality. Ten years later (1967?) homosexual acts between those over 21 in private were permitted. Bletchley Park ( now in Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire) is well worth a visit. All the huts have been preserved, although it is a separate charity that runs it, and this makes it a bit expensive to go in. There is a working model of Colossus. Many computer giants ( e.g. Bill Gates) have contributed to its preservation.

[@alieffauzanrizky7202]

Props to him to made the first theoretical computer, that ended up making a lot of our digital device exist

[@lindylou7853]

One lady in the hospital rehab ward kept on asking every member of staff and patients if they knew Bletchley. Most hadn’t heard of it at all. One day, someone asked her to tell him all about Bletchley as he’d never heard of it. “Oh, no! I don’t know anything. I mustn’t talk about it.” Obviously, she’d worked at Bletchley at some point. … She was fond of doing crosswords. … Later that week, she struck up a conversation with the young, male orderly. Rather, she said, “You’re rather nice, aren’t you? Have you got a spare 20 minutes? We can be quite private in here if you draw the curtains. Then we can have some fun. But I’ll finish my cup of tea and custard creams first. Hope to see you later, lovely.” She then winked at me and told me she’d been married five times and missed most of her husbands. I was somewhat taken aback. She was 93. … at 46.31 the girl typing on the video looks remarkably like her!!!

[@davidcrisp5805]

What this film doesn't say is that the entire logical structure of Tunny was worked out from a *single* message that was accidentally transmitted twice on 31 August 1941. Turing himself wasn't directly involved with this - it was John Tiltman and Bill Tutte - but it probably qualifies as the single greatest feat of cryptanalysis ever.

[@bloozee]

It amuses me when voice-overs say things about how long a computer would take to decode a single message.... but we know the more messages the easier it gets.

[@gtaylor331]

I know it makes no sense and shouldn't matter, when I hear someone say 'Math.....' it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end. I am with Jimmy Carr on that.....................

[@philiprowney]

🤣

[@danielferguson3784]

One train of thought is that the powers that be might have suspected Turing of socialist sympathies, because of his unorthodox lifestyle. Perhaps he would go & work for the Russians, or pass his expertise to them, & so reduce the wests advantage over them. There was a group of Cambridge scholars that did work for the Soviets at that time, among them were Burgess & McClane, & others unknown, some of which were homosexual, so maybe they thought he was, or might become, part of that group. Security & secrecy was all, for 'national security', of the US as well as the UK. Messing him up with hormone treatment might not have been enough, maybeTuring had to be 'ended'?

[@ned_1963]

A uniquely brilliant mind that helped the war effort so much, together with his team of men & women using a unique, pioneering computer & gallons of tea! How he was treated was inhuman & cut short inventions we can only dream of! I'm English & there are no words I could use to express my horror of what we did as a society then. His proud portait adorned our £50 notes recently. Please look it up. 🙏

[@marywood8794]

I've watched lots of the documentary history from this source that they're watching. All have been great! Glad to see them reacting to one.

[@theblackwidowchronicles]

The Imitation Game is well worth watching. The way this genius was treated after he effectively won the Battle of The Atlantic on his own is sickening. Fine, it was overturned posthumously years later but that changes nothing.

[@carolinestirland3126]

Excellent documentary gents

[@Aloh-od3ef]

The enigma machine was originally used in the banking industry to keep communications between banks secure 😉

[@marywood8794]

Anyone else think that Turing was on the autism spectrum? I've never heard that he was, but I have two sons that are and they just think differently than the rest of us.

[@davidmcintyre998]

I have an Autistic Grandson and at four years old he is better with numbers than i am in my sixties.

[@shellieeyre8758]

Turing as the inventor of the computer - Ada Lovelace says hello.

[@Gomorragh]

Between Turing and the other people who did the misinformation mission in the mediterranean, that basically ended the war in europe through not only decrypting everything, but also being better at the misinformation game than anyone else, unfortunately, because of shortsightedness the future electronics industry that could have been based in the uk was shot down by those who didnt take Turin seriously and had no proof of what he could do.

[@dawncarver5277]

Have u seen the imitation game movie with benedict cumberbatch?

[@mosthaunted2]

There's a video of Steve Jobs denying the Apple logo is based on Alan Turing, but he says he wishes it was.

[@pjmoseley243]

Alan Turin was treated as a criminal by the police and others of the time. He was a genius as a boy when he developed his IA theories. you can learn about him from his records at boarding school in Dorset England.

[@martinbynion1589]

"da-NITZ"..."summarine" "admiRALity???? Where did this narrator come from? She seems to be English-speaking but her pronunciation is bizarrecomputer ! On second thoughts, is "she" a very clever but mindless computer-generated voice?

[@sh4969]

Before Alan Turing worked on the first computer code breaker he was in American doing the maths for Project Rainbow the USS Eldridge.

[@grrfy]

hahaha

[@charlesmarshall8046]

Your thumbnail is mistaken. There’s nothing “unsung” about Turing, he’s the father of modern computing.

[@alexking6058]

03:34 I don't know if a guy, who was able to imagine and mathematically describe the relativity of space and time hundred years ago, was somebody who needed to be jealous of anybody else's intelligence :D It's a concept so foreign to our human experience that the level of genius and out there thinking required to make such leap at that time period is still absolutely mind blowing today. That is also far from the only thing he figured out or contributed to, so I'm pretty sure Einstein is right up there among the DaVinci and Turing types.

[@john-hl5tq]

That Turing (or anybody) was offered hormone "treatment" as an alternative to prison is shameful. Nowadays it is foisted on children who believe they have been born into the "wrong" body, and some claim that it is transphobic to object.

[@alana8863]

Did he save my father's life? Or did he save my mother's? I don't know, but if he did then I owe him my life. So many of us do. As a Brit I'm ashamed that he was treated in such a way.

[@geoff1201]

A big shout for Tommy Flowers, an incredible engineer for his time, and yet almost no-one knows of him.

[@DruncanUK]

The suggestion that the Apple logo was a reference to Turing is an urban legend. It was debunked by Apple themselves. (If I remember right. it actually referred to Sir Isaac Newton - but I'm not 100% on that)

[@grahamboffey457]

The Polish secret service gave the UK a version of Enigma that gave the UK a massive insight into its workings. This seems to be forgotten.

[@martinbobfrank]

I attended a work meeting about LBTABCDEF+ stuff and mentioned Alan Turing but nobody, including the guy delivering it, knew who he was. So sad!

[@damienyoung751]

A meeting about what?

[@iankinver1170]

although some people have always disliked the unconventional, one has to bear in mind that until the introduction of the transistor some years later, none of his ideas could have been fulfilled. the people he was dealing with knew only valves, therefore could not see how his machines could be built. i like your stuff by the way. you're prepared to watch the longer stuff and actually learn something.

[@zee2012]

What went on at Bletchley park was only declassified from 1975 onwards

[@SRPM-yk9xw]

Great to see you find out more about Alan Turing. It's a shame the pacing of the documentary itself was so slow, though.

[@mnomadvfx]

The problem is that Turing was just one of many unsung heroes of the code breaking efforts at Bletchley Park. People love to pile on the Turing train because of what happenned after - but many others go on nameless in the shadow of his myth.

[@stefannils2032]

You're right there were others as well but he was the main man and a genius who was eventually brought down by sad little men and their hatred and bigotry my dad a big Afrikaans guy and soldier said never give power to the weak., because they have a score to settle for all their past abuses and will abuse power that's why I.pray the weak shall never inherit the earth