Fans Toys ETHEREAON: EmGo's Transformers Reviews N' Stuff

[@SuperEmin]

Ethereaon: We don't get paid enough for this job! Bumblebee: You get paid? Iron Hide: But Pri... Wait what?!

[@matthewelliott7294]

Prowl (about to flip another table): Say what?!

[@catjazzhappycat7273]

I would like to see Fans Toys do a Broadside big enough for all 5 of these to fit on in their jet modes at the same time. For display purposes.

[@FC_mania]

Not everyone has an 8 figure salary dude

[@questinable]

It would be titan scale though

[@SamIAm-242]

It’s called the USS Flagg. You’ll need a bigger display room though 😊

[@jm8080ful]

General rule is to follow the bot size, so a Broadside Masterpiece will be no bigger than Jetfire

[@magnusprime27]

Just buy an old gijoe uss Flagg lol

[@matthewpasternak8128]

Six years, EmGo.

[@swingbass05]

At least Optimus did ask him to fly to the store for pizza bagels so i see "giving uppies" as an absolute win here!

[@breadhenge]

"Aerialbots, show 'em what you've got!"

[@Jason-ji8ql]

While parts-forming was always a thing, there is a certain novelty to the all-in-one combiners we've seen the last few years. That being said, I do think there's a realistic limitation to being able to all-in-one every single scramble city combiner. Aerialbots and Stuntacons are the big ones. Sure, Menasor has the trailer gimmick, but even then, thats parts-forming. I think the reason people tend to not fret so much is that the trailer is still 'technically' part of Motormaster. I will say though, out of many parts-formers out there, this one was pretty impressive.

[@gmdexcillion3521]

all-in-one is only really possible if third party moves away from G1 accuracy i think despite engineering having moved forwards we had LESS partsforming back in the day (ragnaros, gravity builder, etc) because those combiners were stylized and therefore had room to mess with the proportions and the parts placement and what have you the reason these skeleton systems have gotten so necessary is because the G1 scramble city designs are unworkable otherwise they're not accurate at all to their toys something like mmc's assaultus, which is a set of show accurate combaticons that turn into a toy accurate bruticus (more resembling ruination) is probably the way to go but as long as collectors want a 1:1 match partsforming NEEDS to happen

[@shawndashno6022]

I forget, maybe Fanstoys, but there is a Motor Master out there that is, "all in one." The trailer folds up onto his back, and it looks pretty good. It compacts down really great. I just can't remember the name, road king maybe? In any case, it looks amazing!

[@medafan53]

With, at least, Legacy Menasor, Motormaster is still an integral part of the combined mode, while the trailer forms the abdomen and legs, Motormaster provides the head, and the connection point for the shoulders, unlike Superion here, where Silverbolt just fills a gap in the back of a torso that could probably hold togeather without him. That being said, the frame of Legacy Menasor means that the other 4 stunticons are just filling gaps to make him look more complete, but the combined form still works as a supermode for Motormaster, while this Superion does see the Airealbots become the actual limbs.

[@SamIAm-242]

I do like the term “traditional”, thank you. I’m a G1 toy person so I was going to skip these guys but seeing reviews online started to make me come around, including your reviews of how nice the limb bots were. I was skeptical at first with the $400 torso (plus a bonus arm!) but when I saw the toy mode I got all flutter and decided to skip groceries for like six months and get the available ones and preorder the reissues of the rest. Maybe they’ll fix Air Raid up a bit - that does look like a pain. Thanks for the great reviews, now I’m off to make Mac and cheese.

[@stealthfighter2923]

Being able to make it G1 toy or cartoon is pretty freaking cool

[@dmonsef]

The ending was hilarious! LOL

[@raymcg06]

appreciate the rant on combining toys...you hit the nail right on the head. "why are people making rules for a property that doesn't have rules and get mad that they don't follow the rules that they made?" 🙄...classic line

[@fernandoflores3161]

Because it's kind of lame engineering wise, nothing amazing or innovative to see

[@MisterMeanerOU812]

@@fernandoflores3161you have to make a choice though. You can go the route of MMC and try an all in one, then you run into scale issues which imo is worse than partsforming. Parts forming allows for accuracy, scale, and playability. As far as being “inventive” is concerned, they covered that with their ability to do what they do while looking how they look.

[@gabrielchee8470]

NGL, the way silverbolt plugs into the torso feels bery star saber like

[@mattf9096]

I can agree that it looks great and I wouldn't be mad at all having this on a shelf. But, I'm also one of those people who feel like they should've had Silverbolt be the chest. Given the size of this bot and potential stability issues I'm not saying that he should've been the entire torso, but I would've felt a little better if he slid in the front and was exposed. The "leader" is sort of reduced to just being the backpack, and that's weird IMO.

[@fernandoflores3161]

As it is, Silverbolt is not needed AT ALL to form Superion

[@Legisbruh]

People complaining about the main torso being its own entity is rather redundant, they did it to make it more accurate without having the base bot being like a thousand steps to transform, if you are that offended by it then there are plenty of options out there, although I will never get tired of people complaining about partsforming combiners since the original devastator could be considered a construction set,

[@demonking86420]

>plenty of options Not if you're scouting for a Menasor you ain't

[@Legisbruh]

@@demonking86420completely forgot about him, the only options there probably are is the g1 toy or combiner wars.

[@demonking86420]

@@Legisbruh honorable mentions: Rising Force and Fansproject were so close...

[@PavanK-x5h]

Finally, we got ourselves a combine mode!

[@zachbundy7026]

There actually is a presidence for this kind of combination: if you're as old as I am (geezer) you may recall the old Go-bot exo-suit combiner where you stuck 4 go-bots into "exo-suits" and attached them to a separate battle ship/torso.

[@BlizzAz]

Personally I quite like this one. He might parts-form, but it looks like he probably holds together better and is a lot more stable. Out of my price range right now though.

[@ronaldannas1935]

I am old. I had the original Areobots when they were released. I thought it was an awesome toy set. This version has a ton more of articulation than the original.

[@Dokken1975]

Excellent rant! That should be a heading in our Fans Toys group for those who can’t stop complaining. Thanks for the video man!!!

[@bustedsim]

After your last Silverbolt turned out so well, it got me thinking that the only bot in a combined mode set that can afford QC issues is the left arm. Every other bot has too much responsibility to be a fail point.

[@MrAzleerico]

Wow! Would love to have this on display in my cabinet. Vary cartoon accurate! Soooo awesome!

[@paulsantos914]

Who came here for the Zeta Toys vs Fans Toys comparison

[@williamrogers4917]

I like the Scramble City style where the bots can be swapped around mix and match with other combiners.

[@jimibadders2662]

ah yes silver cube

[@thescottishaccent]

I really want to see a video where you just show us all where and how you store/display all these guys. These are not small toys! This dude's like a toddler :D

[@jm8080ful]

Their Devastator is going to be glorious! See you in another ten years.

[@RickBerman-iv2il]

Damn right - who cares how they combine, provided it’s stable and straightforward!

[@Culando]

The thing people have to realize (which took me a while admittedly) is that, well. The G1 toys had a LOT of parts-forming. And the G1 cartoon cheated with mass shifting and mass reforming a LOT. So there's only so much designers can do to make these characters, especially combiners, physically possible and look accurate. And some have done amazing jobs! But it's not always feasable with every character. Once I finally got that lodged in my own head I could enjoy the Legacy Menasor for what it is and I love it. Looks great on display and I still transform it from time to time. (Motormaster alone is a fantastic toy. I like to put him and my G1 copy side by side) Though part of me does still love the more 'traditional' combining of, I think it was an IDW based set of Menasor you reviewed a while back. I'd love to get my hands on that, but I don't think it's available anymore even if I could afford it right now.

[@AlphonsoFrett-xz6pi]

It took me too long to understand the opening joke

[@hyperionred613]

You know what. Absolutely valid. Never thought about combining that way. Thanks Emgo

[@alex_the_stampede]

This looks great! Makes me glad I ordered the Constructicons from Fans Toys!

[@charlessutton6160]

I'm with you on the no rules since day one.

[@SamIAm-242]

Never forget those Action f*#!ing Masters!

[@griffinkimball2454]

Definitely same here. And I say this as somebody who doesn't love this way of doing combiners. That being said, I'm not upset about it. It's being done for a reason and I save some money

This bad boy is gigantic. Amazing.

[@tadhgdonnelly3513]

Love this! Your reviews are always delightful

[@eramferguson1701]

In my opinion, the combiner wars version of the aerial bots is the traditional way.

[@eramferguson1701]

This is a good representation of Superion, but this is another non-traditional way to make a combiner

[@dialNforNinja]

"this part... this part is not fun." Primary function of a toy failed, there. Not that I have enough space in my house for a combiner this big, let alone in my budget!

[@robertsanborn7766]

Could've just turned him into an Optimus Speed ball special 😂

[@shawndashno6022]

I love your never ending quest to end "Toxic Fandom," Emgo! You are the goat!! Changing minds, one at a time!! 👍

[@serina3872]

This is the only combiner I'm fine with the fake torso because it actually does something useful in the other modes (granted I would have liked the flight stand to work in robot modes)

[@philsswweightlossdiary2944]

I must admit I do love a traditional combiner, but the bigger ones often have stability issues. If this one can solve that with a little bit of 'extra' support, I don't mind it. I don't think i'd ever pick this up just because of the price. If I did, I'd be bummed at Silverbolt's transformation but if it means the joints last longer then happy days, I'll get over it.

[@Yeetus-yc1vy]

I genuinely thought the metal looking vinyl was actually a metal table top thing, this deceived me for years

[@emgo316]

It is a metal table top, with a layer vinyl over it.

[@EL-uj1pl]

Honestly the way you've had to explain your thought processes when it comes to reviewing figures is sad. It really sucks that some people can't understand that somebody would like a thing on its own merits or not hold it to an arbitrary standard that no toy has actually lived up to. I always appreciate your input Emgo, even when I don't always see eye to eye with ya. Wish ya well!

[@Orphus]

Torso-bot folded into a backpack is kinda a necessity if you want that g1 look. Now I'm stuck waiting for the 1st three reissues.

[@demonking86420]

inb4 MMC throws a brick at that window (see their Brute and Defensor)

[@Orphus]

@@demonking86420 The Bruticus is pretty good, but haven't developed the method to magically turn the mostly blue Onslaught into the mostly grey Bruticus

[@SamIAm-242]

Same

[@gmdexcillion3521]

@@demonking86420 mmc takes a LOT of liberties in order to make their combiners all-in-one not to say they're bad they're GREAT combiners and they look awesome but that's the result of the designers being smart and knowing what to compromise on and what to keep in (bruticus is TOY accurate, not show accurate, it looks far more like RID 2001 ruination than G1 bruticus) something 1:1 with the G1 cartoon is probably still gonna need to work off the skeleton system just so the individual bots don't need to be burdened with the prospect of having to adhere to the unworkable cartoon designs

[@demonking86420]

@@gmdexcillion3521 you see, caring too much about show accuracy is how the Sword of Damocles falls on the TF fandom

[@TerryTurner]

...and Voltron is complete! Jk!🤣👍

[@XxNuuruhuinexX]

The theme was playing in my head too.

[@TerryTurner]

@@XxNuuruhuinexX 🤣

[@dmonsef]

Just to clarify Emgo, the TFSafari link is for Slingshot + Superion's Body Parts only and not the whole team. TFSafari has Fireflight, but Airraid/Silverbolt/Skydive are sold out.

[@emgo316]

I know

[@DrBepis-ky6eu]

11:00 couldn’t agree more. There are no rules. If you don’t like it, more for the rest of us lol. Thank you for always being the voice of reason in the tf community Emgo. You’re #1 in my eyes

[@marvinpasumbal9077]

I will always watch your emgo. For me you are the best transformers reviewer. You have my heart.❤

[@PacoGrande76]

I used to be really against extreme parts forming for combiners but what really turned me around was a combination (see what I did there?) of MPG Raiden really disappointing me and Magic Square combiners making me very happy around the same time. I have now concluded that if you love toon accuracy like I do you need a combiner with a lot of fake parts. It’s just the realty of the toon cheating so much.

[@evanmansell5411]

damn that's a good looking superion

[@Maximilian7992]

The faux torso and thighs are a compromise for show accuracy and that’s something I’m not bothered by. Some compromises have to be made, especially for six changers like Sixshot who basically you have to use your imagination for some of the modes.

[@braumkimball9548]

I'm not a fan of gap filler combiners generally, but this is still cool

[@bigmountain340]

I am now open minded to "traditional" combiners, difference made.

[@Desciple860]

I got the zeta mini superion but i gotta say this looks pretty good 👍

[@WaterMouse.]

Amazing Superion piece and great toy review, as always Emgo, thanks...😊👍 I still await a Superion piece that's just the bots merging to a single titan...🤭

[@Mr.Funk92]

It’s a great looking combine mode and it’s solid without falling apart. If the price was not so crazy I’d have one 😂

[@Daniel-dr8dd]

He looks awesome. I still feel annoyed with the extra parts. But is just because of space reasoning more than anything. Edit: Ok, the hand won me over.

[@BobbyMendoza-vz9wo]

I'm a big fan of transformers I have 2 Megatron's

[@jakejager]

I mean, look at what Has to did with Menasor and he turned out awesome...that said, the upper arm is too short, only complaint I'd have with this one. Looks great otherwise. As far as the lights in the head, they made their mistake by painting the visor then using colored LEDs. Would work marginally better with white LEDs

[@LuciphurDjohn]

Wow i like it and i love the way is combine

[@magnusprime27]

Zeta did the same thing with there silverbolt and it works fine.

[@marvinpasumbal9077]

You are the best emgo. Keep up the good work

[@BobbyMendoza-vz9wo]

Happy birthday to you emgo my friendc

[@emgo316]

It’s not my birthday

[@gunslin33able]

Awesome review

[@jsms158]

This look so cool!

[@thelastsaiyan9036]

Who cares?! He's huge, toon accurate. Looks and plays like a masterpiece figure. I want one for myself

[@py5277]

Great video as always. Very very nice superion but far too expensive to own.

[@RumbleTheKidd]

I wonder if the future generations version will use a similar technique in the torso. This thing looks amazing but probably expensive af...

[@williambowne3572]

I like. The way you put it together, it New and that's the way It is. meant to be put together. I have the original one. It works Not as good as that 1.

[@fredd4320]

Emgo you’re the goat!

[@XxNuuruhuinexX]

Could you ever do an updated side by side between this guy and Zeta? Im bouncing back and forth on which one to go after.

[@lizgriffin23]

OH MYYY GODDDS EMMMMGOOOOO

[@MrRaziel25]

i freaking love it :)

[@co92715]

Some tolerance issue on the 2nd feet/leg part.

[@martinefrensoquigomez7835]

If he was 100% cartoon accurate I can tell you he would look much worse than this

[@nicholasthomas.7553]

Yoooo

[@bryanevans8816]

4:29 Air Raid being the problem child? In other news the sky is indeed blue.

[@rjz4329]

I think you got a dud blue LED. Mine is plenty bright. I do have the same problem with the left leg, though.

[@scottmackie8900]

Sweet

[@solarixstar]

I have LONG SINCE stopped worrying about the faux chest stuff. Plus you showed me the exact future that trying to chase “tradition” gets us. (Isn’t that right DreamStarToys?) I just want my big fellas to stay in one piece. If the extra parts help with that then have at it 3rd party.

[@JJK420]

all these 3rd party transformers combiners remind more of the Gobot Power Suits and the combiner The Courageous Power Warrior, unfortunately I'm showing my age with this comment

[@gabrielchee8470]

Silverbolts gives stars saber vibes and admittedly id feel the combiner kibble is something they'd simmon from subspace and combine with in stock transformation footage style

[@Herocreech]

Hi Emgo where did you get your transformers ring? I've been trying to get one.

[@emgo316]

Got it from Etsy

[@dnadnadna-dn7nb]

a lot finds the combination parts being separate is annoying while i'm here looking at the wings on the combine mode stands out too much

[@jasperhunt3050]

What about xtransbot menasor

[@RobTay475]

When r u gonna do studio series primus? Wanna see it

[@paulharmon8947]

Looks good but I don't like the combining. It would be best if each aerial bot transformed into the part of Superion's body they go to. Just saying. Not going to say "traditional".

[@bradysimpson]

This guy is so sexy. Ethereon looks great, too.

[@dwmexico]

👀

[@thestigsdutchcousin]

I really like how FT made the combining work. Not simple tabbing or sliding and be done with it, but actually make the pieces lock in place and secure. I will say that this is the first time I've seen it done this way. If FT does this for every combiner they will make, they will be the most solid, stable and poseable of all. You can get some fun poses out of this beast, which I like. Bring on Menasor! And FT, please do Computron and Abominus! Also EmGo, if you fold the wings on the leg bots, you can keep the little wings on Air Raid/Iceman from getting undone, mostly. Just a tip :)

[@DJSubwoofers]

Okay I'm disappointed the combined mode does like amazing yes but there's so much combiner kibble imma have to pass on this and pray to the robot gods that the hasbro superion coming next year won't be this kibble heavy

[@BIGLARRY100]

I just dont like when tf figs don't incorporate all parts in all modes. I don't mind non-transforming bots, shell formers, or parts formers. What I don't like is when I want to flip something to alt mode is having to get parts out of storage or have a pile of parts laying around. Its not about making sense so u can't convert me. Ur the best reviewer tho!

[@BIGLARRY100]

I think it stems from having skywarp as a kid & losing the landing gear & a fist. Meanwhile I had prime & his fists never bugged me or got lost. Never minded tossing his stuff in the cab or trailer.

[@EL-uj1pl]

That's kind of inevitable with combiners.. even the jankiest ones have some layer of parts forming that doesn't go anywhere

[@BobbyMendoza-vz9wo]

Hi emgo my name is Bobby Mendoza jr I like transformers 😅😅

[@emgo316]

Hi Bobby 👋🏼

[@bastard2134]

Awesome combiner! This is the only way to do it if you want your bot to be accurate and functional! I’ll never understand the hate for parts forming!? Great review Emgo!

[@EdyKelDev]

I think it looks cool. Who care if it doesn't conform to certain views over a franchise that is made up of multiple lines of toys (Diaclone Micro Change, ect) because Takara/Hasbro were trying to sell them to an American public that was hungry for them

[@demonking86420]

Emgo, that is what you call a *cheatbiner*

[@ComboBreakerMLP]

While it looks cool… having pretty much 70% of the combiner be separate pieces really kills it for me. Gonna pass on this set.

[@dravyn_grimes_official]

Agreed, I'll personally stick with my Zeta Toys

[@fulcrumagent]

I agree. Not that i buy a lot of 3rd party stuff anyway. But i hate when the torso bot just folds into a box and get put in the back

[@RiderBlizzard01]

Looks amazing i love the way this guy looks and personally i rather have this the the mess that is thr Zets toys while Zeta toys is cool their just way too much problems for me to justify that price tag they have Personally i feel like more combiners need to do this cause while yeah it is cool they can have all the bots turn into the individual parts of the combine mode infeel like they suffer cause their trying to fit so much into a figure the final combine mode doesnt hold up or suffers cause of the all built in combine mode Personally love this and might need to go down the rabbit hole for this but hey to each their own

[@demonking86420]

MMC Ocular Max: *AHEM*

[@RiderBlizzard01]

​@@demonking86420 While cool they are not my cup of tea personally I enjoy Unique Toys or Zetas Bruticus Again while the whole built in combiner is cool and I'm not denying it personally feel like some not all them have a tendency to not look the best in one mode or the other But again hey folks like what they like can't hate them for liking what they prefer :)

[@demonking86420]

@@RiderBlizzard01 I understand the point you make but it is annoying when the market is incentivized to make cheatbiners, heck the only recent Stunitcon set I can get that actually combines is frigging combiner wars, and the mold used for momo and optimus has a really annoying hip problem(and dont get me started on the only 3P option for me being Boldforms Lonewolf)

[@RiderBlizzard01]

​@@demonking86420yeah I seen that one and my goodness is not a pretty thing But I get your point but at the same time it maybe as you quote a "cheatbiner" but I'm sure some would rather have something stable and solid then a wet noodle,cause combiner wars good in concept but much of it had a lot to be desired and some combiners definitely needed a few more fine tooling before being made personally the only combiner set I'm not the biggest fan of is the cang toys predaking while it does look amazing I just can't get over everything being it's own individual robot and it's the one thing that does kind of kill it for me but that's just me But overall hey folks like what they like if you like this awesome if not then hey that's great too I like this one and yes it does chest but so did many of the original gf transformers toys like Devastator but again to each their own ^^

[@SamIAm-242]

My first non Hasbro/Takara combiner was MMC’s Bruticus. I love how clever they are and their Defensor is coming along nicely. But this is going to be my second 3rd party combiner, and I love how it looks so far. (I’ve only got Slingshot and Fireflight, and I did add them to the torso. My wife said “He’s cool looking but his legs are a little short.” 🤣)

[@gingervikingjesus2351]

@21:20 *"HE'S FUUGE!!!"* 🤣🥃