Boat Electrical: How to Wire a Bilge Pump

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Clark's Adventure

Clark's Adventure

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@herberthahn6964
@herberthahn6964 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! When 'simple' is explained simply; 'complicated' becomes easier to understand.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Herbert. Well said. I appreciate it.
@aaronstarling9837
@aaronstarling9837 Жыл бұрын
For someone who’s trying to get prepared before buying a boat in a few years, these videos are perfect. Thank you so much!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Glad these are helping. We have another like this coming next weekend.
@svdellajean253
@svdellajean253 2 жыл бұрын
For single handed sailors a momentary switch isn’t very helpful. Instead to control and protect my two bilge pumps, I use a Blue Sea 1522. It has a restricted off circuit breaker with manual override switch and two LED’s for each pump. One LED indicates power available at the float switch, the second LED indicates the pump is running by float switch activation or from the manual override switch. Great video, thanks for taking the time to put it together.
@chr15996
@chr15996 2 жыл бұрын
Guys keep them coming. I don't know what I don't know 😁
@kb1esx
@kb1esx Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Needed a refresher before diving into my bilge.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Your welcome. Hope the project comes out well.
@russking63
@russking63 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I teach a lot of classes on very complicated topics (HVAC design, airflow, thermodynamics, building science, energy efficiency, energy codes, etc.) Not only did I learn about the topic at hand but what a total noob feels like when they are trying to learn something new and clearly the instructor is years and years ahead of them. You did a great job and I will be altering my training approach accordingly.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
That's so nice of you to say. Thanks
@danielcallinan5629
@danielcallinan5629 2 жыл бұрын
Loving this series. Sometimes it's hard to see what's being connected where, but your explanations are really great. Thank you!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Daniel
@karlbass7895
@karlbass7895 2 жыл бұрын
Clear & concise. Thanks!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Karl
@brandom7900
@brandom7900 5 ай бұрын
Finally a thorough explanation!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 5 ай бұрын
You are welcome
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 5 ай бұрын
You should look at my other videos. Especially the capable cruiser or electric master class playlists
@francleo2002
@francleo2002 2 жыл бұрын
Another Master Class! Thanks! I can now see how and why the switchboard (behind them, at least) are SO packed with all kinds of wires and such additional (and necessary) elements. You give the appropriate name to each part, with the facts of use, to back each part up. Usually, when watching other channels do some electrical work, or refits, or upgrades, etc, they fail to explain these steps. It generally just goes along the lines of "we connected the wires to the panel" and the perceived "wire mayhem" that ensues is maddening! Thanks again, professor!! 😅
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome
@patience8112
@patience8112 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you reply to everyone ! Great video, well spoken.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@FORGVN
@FORGVN 4 ай бұрын
Wow! Excellent video, not assuming people know all things. Very thorough! You are an excellent teacher, especially for visual learners. This is the first video of yours I saw and I subscribed not even halfway through the "lab" : ) I look forward to watching both your current and future videos. Keep up the good work.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. I think you might especially like the electrical master class playlist. And sharing links with friends would help me out
@livingsimplytosimplylive6817
@livingsimplytosimplylive6817 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation love your series
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@strallen
@strallen Жыл бұрын
Fantastically clear, concise and instructive. Thank you!!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it. You might like our other videos as well and please consider sharing links with friends
@strallen
@strallen Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your quick reply! I am watching all of your previous videos each one of which is amazingly informative and well presented. We lost about £4k of equipment from a storm and a lightning side hit in our marina in Spain last year. Am now reviewing all of our lightning protection wiring and rewatching your lightning awareness video. Thanks for this. Happy continued cruising.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that
@scarol99
@scarol99 2 жыл бұрын
You're going through a nicely thought out sequence of lessons. I'm looking forward to those to come. Good work, and thanks very much!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome Steve. Thanks for watching.
@zlvirag
@zlvirag 6 ай бұрын
Good explanation, particularly like the led add on....,thanks
@lukedenbleyker5091
@lukedenbleyker5091 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Clark. I understood how this circuit worked but didn't think about a light. Now I can stop worrying and always checking to make sure it's working. Thanks for the peace of mind. And the physics that you throw in is always interesting.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that Luke
@MichaelSanio
@MichaelSanio 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Clark, you are a Master Instructor
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael
@craigcastellana5967
@craigcastellana5967 2 жыл бұрын
That was awesome Clark. Thank you everyone has a little bilge pump so this was very helpful. I appreciate the pictorial so we could see the hot and ground connections through the entire circuit. Well done,
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Craig
@danmcdonald9877
@danmcdonald9877 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Clark. I can't help but think about how much time you spent setting this up for us. Very much appreciated. Great presentation!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I just kinda decide what to say and wing it. I simply can't read a script, I get all tongue tied. Thank you Dan
@RaulMartinez-ln8zq
@RaulMartinez-ln8zq 2 жыл бұрын
Again, great video and great lab.
@mikecloutier6669
@mikecloutier6669 2 жыл бұрын
Caught back up! Another phenomenal explanation keeping things clear and concise. My poor overworked brain thanks you! This series couldn't come at a more perfect time as I'm designing and getting ready to install a complete solar system on my boat within the next two months. I'm actually understanding everything you are teaching so far, Thank you!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
I hope I stay ahead of your needs. I'm actually installing a solar charging system in an RV this week myself. Glad it's helping
@dennishively5994
@dennishively5994 2 жыл бұрын
IT’s always fun to watch & learn, thank you
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome Dennis
@borfishing7690
@borfishing7690 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. For whatever reason my boat didn’t have a direct wire to the negative battery post. I now have a working bilge👍🏼
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 4 ай бұрын
Glad it helped. You might want to watch a few other of my videos
@johnrobson9606
@johnrobson9606 2 жыл бұрын
Great practical stuff. Thank you
@johnroux4919
@johnroux4919 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying this series! I have a very basic understanding and can get by with small repairs and installs but you have broadened my horizons! I appreciate that you're breaking it down to it's simplest form as well. Thanks for taking the time and effort to make these videos.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome, John. Two new ones in this series coming out next.
@michaelwillan8464
@michaelwillan8464 Жыл бұрын
Draw a Y. Place V in top of Y. Place R in bottom left. Place I in bottom right. Then draw a V as an extension to upper right arm of Y. Place a P (power) within the drawn V. This gives P over VxI. Much easier to draw than describe. Try it I think you'll like it. PS: excellent tutorials.
@kissi7474
@kissi7474 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for posting, just about to install a new pump 🙏⛵️
@jasonTubeification
@jasonTubeification 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and its great! I see a ton of videos that are going to help me tremendously once spring arrives and I can get to repairs on my new fixer upper.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that Jason
@floridasailor3732
@floridasailor3732 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly explained. Well done.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Michael-gf1jn
@Michael-gf1jn Жыл бұрын
Great Video. I am learning so much! Thank you
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Glad you are enjoying the channel. Please consider sharing links with friends
@mattipollari8905
@mattipollari8905 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation- very well explained !
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Matti
@svgitana2499
@svgitana2499 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Perfectly explained, simple and great visuals!! Even I understood it! 😂👍🏻
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TimothyCollins-px4zl
@TimothyCollins-px4zl 2 ай бұрын
Practical is good. Inspires to know more theory
@MikeHastings115
@MikeHastings115 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Clark, very interesting and useful. 🙂
@cnc75adventures49
@cnc75adventures49 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome great work threw really like the led I don’t have that thanks👍👍
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@barbarianlife
@barbarianlife 2 жыл бұрын
Now I want to play D&D! Great advice.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Strange you should say that. We are at GenCon now. Are you here?
@barbarianlife
@barbarianlife 2 жыл бұрын
@@Clarks-Adventure Haha. Sorry. I know it was vague. It was the paper you used. Instantly went to old school D&D in my head. Have fun at GenCon!!!
@captaindave8683
@captaindave8683 Жыл бұрын
Nice and clearly explained. Thank you.
@johnmeldrum4717
@johnmeldrum4717 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the clarification. Super.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped you
@floridasalon2817
@floridasalon2817 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I enjoyed your video.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome
@johnbolongo9978
@johnbolongo9978 Жыл бұрын
Great class.....love it. Maybe add GPH.....head pressure.....check valve...hose diameter and flow rates with bends and length......enjoy the heck out of channel.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Important stuff but this was more of an electrical lesson. Thanks
@alanmcn17
@alanmcn17 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@dougtiffany7439
@dougtiffany7439 Жыл бұрын
Welcome back,always enjoy your channel.In regard to Bilge pump install i am not fond of the controls, as i feel the wire size at the control,i.e. from battery to control and control to float switch is too small, especially with a long run, so i use a solenoid, that way there is no voltage drop.
@mrtomedean
@mrtomedean 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Clark! This was very interesting! Off to retire my bilge pumps - because after watching this, they aren’t right!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome Thomas
@bikebasket9594
@bikebasket9594 2 жыл бұрын
It’s late where I am Clark but since I’ve had a couple of boats sink I thought I’d better watch this! Lol
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it's an important little device.
@svcalaine2728
@svcalaine2728 2 жыл бұрын
Clarke, love your technical series! Can't wait until you get to multi-source charging systems, trouble shooting and wire tracing. But I understand, foundations before towers.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
And we have to talk about meters first at the very least.
@larryboyd2806
@larryboyd2806 2 жыл бұрын
CLARK... GREAT INFO AND GREAT PRESENTATION... I have a more advanced bilge wiring issue to run past you.... specifically: I am in the process of replacing my Rule Automatic pump model ( 27SA) . It has three wires... a Black ground wire......a Brown automatic wire.( which is always live with 12 volts) and a Brown and White manual wire which only has voltage when the manual test switch is thrown. . The Brown automatic wire sends a short pulse every 2.5 min down to the pump to sense for water. If water is detected it stays on until the water level is reduced...... So before installing it I used a multi meter to test that I have voltage at the brown wire .For some reason the automatic function does not work even though I have voltage.... I tested the pump on a 12 volt car battery charger and it works fine... so the pump is ok. So im wondering what is stopping the auto function from working..... my only guess so far is maybe the wire is not providing enough amperage due to corrosion.... Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ps... I also did a work around where I ran a hot wire from another part of the boat to the pump and it worked fine... so the pump is good but I cant figure out why the existing hot wire could have voltage but will not activate the atutomatic part of the pump... hope u can help Please drop me a line at captainlar7@gmail.com ..... thanks Larry Boyd... I can give you my phone number if you drop me an e mail...
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry. I don't use that type of pump and I can't answer individual questions here. More of an upper level Patreon thing. I think you should contact the pump manufacturer.
@johnnydfred
@johnnydfred 2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid Clark!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you John
@mvintrigue-trawlerdiy1101
@mvintrigue-trawlerdiy1101 2 жыл бұрын
Great job Clark! It still amazes me how many boats barely even have ONE working bilge pump and many times its rigged up simply to a manual switch...that works sometimes..lol.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Can't have that!
@adamhoulahan3572
@adamhoulahan3572 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, great stuff
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Your welcome Adam
@franktartan6808
@franktartan6808 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job Clark. Say hi to Emily.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frank, Just did.
@syposeidon8006
@syposeidon8006 2 жыл бұрын
cool video, would love to see more of that!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
They will be here as I make them BOAT ELECTRICAL: kzbin.info/aero/PLsT7_jPsZM5ogT6or244F49-Gy7pYFV7V
@syposeidon8006
@syposeidon8006 2 жыл бұрын
Probably it helps, but i recently found out, that our quite deep bilge sump always emptied the bilge pump tube, making the pump fall dry and producing enormous currents. Now we try to fit a valve to inhibit emptying that tube. Your opinion?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Well a one way valve would do it but I'm concerned the bilge pump wouldn't restart unless you allowed it to drain slowly. If you use a valve don't use one with a spring, too much back pressure. There are bronze ones that have to be mounted in a certain orientation that should work well.
@rickkwitkoski1976
@rickkwitkoski1976 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. VERY good video.
@marklapierre5629
@marklapierre5629 Жыл бұрын
That would be a single POLE single throw switch. Excellent explanation of a simple DC circuit.
@sailingeden9866
@sailingeden9866 Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@srevach2
@srevach2 10 ай бұрын
Very engaging!
@thetraveller3577
@thetraveller3577 2 жыл бұрын
Clarke....great video and I thank you. Can you explain how I turn off house power when leaving yacht but keep bilge auto mode on. Thanks !
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Just wire their circuit breaker right to the battery side of your shit off switch so they don't go off
@neilquigley1030
@neilquigley1030 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video - thank you! What do you think about the strategy of having the float switch also wired directly to the battery (via a fuse) so it'll work if the panel switch is accidentally left off, or there's a defect in the switch? Mine's wired like you described (without the handy momentary option), but I've heard the other theory mentioned.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
I feel you need a switch to turn it off. For example if you leak some diesel and the costies are around. Last thing you want is a telltale sheen as your boat pumps. But yes I go right to battery so the only way to turn it off is the one switch. ie Temptress can be dark but still have pumps.
@doylepatterson3459
@doylepatterson3459 6 ай бұрын
Thank you
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 6 ай бұрын
You're welcome
@therokenman2594
@therokenman2594 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really helpful for a rookie! To that end, if possible could you mention the wire sizes in future videos. It would make it easier to know what the needs/differences are in each circuit.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
The first two videos in this series talk about that. It comes down to ohms law or using tables. It's all about resistance.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
BOAT ELECTRICAL: kzbin.info/aero/PLsT7_jPsZM5ogT6or244F49-Gy7pYFV7V
@scottcates
@scottcates 2 ай бұрын
Super helpful.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
@andrasferencz1102
@andrasferencz1102 2 жыл бұрын
Clark, no need to worry about the fuse or the wire on the LED circuit. An LED draws typically between 10-20 mA, that wire will be perfectly fine! :)
@brianhowes6448
@brianhowes6448 Жыл бұрын
very helpful
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian. Hope you like the rest of the series
@henriaube2278
@henriaube2278 2 жыл бұрын
Excel video, as usual. You might emphasize that in any circuit running a motor, that machine can get physically jammed by debris or an adjacent part failing. Pay special attention to fusing on motor circuits!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Glad you mentioned it
@SVFresh2Salty
@SVFresh2Salty 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@VinceFoster
@VinceFoster 4 ай бұрын
What gauge wiring do you recommend???? Excellent Video! Thank you so much!!!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 4 ай бұрын
I have a video on that
@raymthemaker8215
@raymthemaker8215 2 жыл бұрын
Since you've dropped that bomb of electron flow direction on their heads, go for broke and hit 'em with Hole Theory!😁 Great video on a simple but highly necessary item.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
As I said to pontoon Rob: Or holes flow from pos to negative (used in semiconductors). But the only true theory is it's all magic smoke. This can be proven because the circuit doesn't work anymore after the smoke leaks out.
@johnnylightning1491
@johnnylightning1491 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you were going to explain that electrons actually flow from negative to positive, and you did. I like the trick with lighting the LED from the other end. Keep the good stuff coming.
@MrBigsah
@MrBigsah Жыл бұрын
I love this set up. I've been looking all over for the circuit switch. Can you share the link. I only found momentary off momentary
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Look through the recent comments. I searched for someone and found one in minutes. They are out there. On-off-(on)
@TerrydeAlaska
@TerrydeAlaska 2 жыл бұрын
I like what you did, and it's also nice to start out with a simple circuit with 12 volt lights, series / parallel and talk about voltage drop and current. You may be planning on that in the future as they can get complicated real fast with resistors and math as I'm sure you know. I also think it's a great idea to start out with simple schematic drawing of the circuit, which would help to familiarize viewers with the symbols they will see in real life. I'm trying to say its good to see actual components, but seeing the circuit in a schematic or wiring diagram makes following the components in a circuit that much easier... It give us a road map so we don't get lost, just like driving a car through a city or sailing a boat with charts. Cheers....
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Good ideas Terry
@CaseyMcGovern-iy1uz
@CaseyMcGovern-iy1uz Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you! Finding your videos very helpful. Question: Where you’ve placed the circuit breaker in this video, could an inline fuse holder be used safely there instead? Any advantage/disadvantages to either? Thanks again!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Sure. Both are over current protection. Circuit breaker is also a handy switch.
@chuck571
@chuck571 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for these wonderful videos!! Quick question, at 12:27 while showing the diagram, it looks like you spliced the red wire from the switch into the red wire connecting the float switch to the pump? In reality, that wire would connect directly to the pump correct?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 3 ай бұрын
It just doesn't matter. The electrons dont care if they have to travel a bit further. And in this case the wire in question is connected to the ends of the lead wire of the pump and the lead wire of the switch. Both of each will be under water.
@chuck571
@chuck571 3 ай бұрын
@@Clarks-Adventure TY
@Nerd3927
@Nerd3927 2 жыл бұрын
Doing good Work to make marinas a safer place for all :-) I see so many fuses at the appliance side with an unprotected wire running all the length of the boat.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Yes many just don't understand why we use fuses. I blame the VHF radio companies who put an online in their short feed wire.
@braithmiller
@braithmiller 2 жыл бұрын
Good example and the most serviced circuit on a boat. Breaker panel manufacturers don't protect their led microwires, the led is considered current limiting and in housing. I would just keep the same size wire as protected circuit till at indicator led in a safe box. Can also install a breaker open and power on in addition to the closed circuit.
@deo3655
@deo3655 2 жыл бұрын
Clark, back when you did the episode on your Lund Dinghy, you mentioned that you had built your aluminum dinghies at one time. Do you have any plans or photos of how you were building them. Thank you for your time and your videos
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Actually I build of plywood and fiberglass and I would recommend it. I used a stich and tape method. Emily built her dinghy with a similar method (stich and glue). I'll send a link to her build videos. No I designed my own but started from plans I bought. We have no plans to publish my plans.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Emily Builds a Sailboat: kzbin.info/aero/PLsT7_jPsZM5qrTdxolBxRZAsUfuacyiE1 Different kind of boat but similar construction. The bigger skiff actually has fewer parts.
@AndyStepan
@AndyStepan 2 ай бұрын
Hi - great video - the circuit breaker, can you link me to something like that? Can't seem to find on amazon.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 ай бұрын
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@JohnH242
@JohnH242 Жыл бұрын
Great video series I know the bare basics about electricity so this series has ben extremely helpful. I have what may be a dumb question but how do I go about tracing the wiring back to the electrical panel? For example if I wanted to replace the wiring to my bilge pump.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Pulling wire in a boat sucks. It's a lot of wiggling and pulling to see what moves. There are usually 100 wire ties you need to remove and replace. Having a helper helps a lot. When you find what you are looking for use an old wire to pull the new wires I find sewing the wires together to be much better than taping them.
@JohnH242
@JohnH242 Жыл бұрын
@@Clarks-Adventure My bilge pump wiring "disappears" under the sole how would I determine where it "reappears" in the electrical panel
@JohnH242
@JohnH242 Жыл бұрын
Would I just disconnect it from the breaker and pull it from there?
@JohnH242
@JohnH242 Жыл бұрын
if so How would I find the negative side?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
It's always different. The easiest would be to trace it electrically. Disconnect both ends of the candidate wire. Attach another wire to one end and at the other end of both wires use your meter or a battery and light to see if both ends are truly the same wire. If so great. If not try another of the same color Or if possible just use your meter to verify there is battery power then switch it off or remove the panel end. If it goes dark it's your wire
@lautrupthomas
@lautrupthomas 2 жыл бұрын
My bilge is not very big. Is there any bilgepumps on the market with an internal floatswitch. If yes - do you recommend a pump like that?
@braithmiller
@braithmiller 2 жыл бұрын
A few some copies, two main well known brands Atwood and others. If your bilge gets gummy they have a high tendency to stick on or off. More expensive and very reliable are hall sensor types, some have been fail on purchase one I am using atm. There are floatless automatics that use timed run load sensing are fine unless you have boat without solar or dock power as they will kill a battery just on checks.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
I've been having good luck with these. I've use one in the dinghy for three years now. Cheap! www.ebay.com/itm/403652370974?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=1dx98jwuteu&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=3Zp5jgUhScS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@JenkinsBoatWorks
@JenkinsBoatWorks Жыл бұрын
good stuff! thanks
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Your welcome
@jerzeedivr
@jerzeedivr Жыл бұрын
Check out Water Witch float switch. No moving parts. Im done with that style float switch.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
I've used similar switches before. Didn't work for long.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
How long have you used this for?
@erichenriksen3482
@erichenriksen3482 Жыл бұрын
So...if the electrons flow 'backwards', why don't we put the fuse by the negative terminal?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
The fuse works anyplace in the circuit. It's better near the beginning of the positive wire because there tends to be a lot of ground paths available in a boat. Virtually any metal that is connected to the water. Everything could be reversed and work the same but by convention we ground to negative.
@TimothyCarswell
@TimothyCarswell 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen others put a timer delay relay in the bilge circuit so if the float switch bounces up when a wave comes or water in the bilge splashes the float switch it doesn't turn on the pump for a few seconds. The circuit has to be active for 10 seconds before the relay kicks in and actives the pump. This can also be used to delay the "off" of the circuit to get the bilge more water free than a float switch could make it.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Sure in engineering it would be called forced histerises (sp?). Useful for small fast boats but eventually the simple approach works.
@williamrocci4148
@williamrocci4148 11 ай бұрын
If the float is activated and you hit the momentary switch will it backfeed and blow the circuit or fuze?😊
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 11 ай бұрын
Nope. Those two circuits just share the current. Good question though
@JohnnoTime
@JohnnoTime Жыл бұрын
Hi Clark, This is a great series and much appreciated! I have a question about the position of the fuse. It is positioned on the positive side of the circuit however you said that current runs from the negative side of the battery through the circuit to the positive side of the battery. If this is the current flow then why is the fuse not on the negative side to protect the flow?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
It's more likely that a wire that gets loose will find something attached to the negative terminal to touch than the positive terminal. For example the engine block. A circuit is safe if it's broken anywhere. No current flows. Forget the water pipe analogy you are likely using. When broken, wires don't spray electrons all over.
@johnwaters5216
@johnwaters5216 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a great series you have going. You wouldn't happen to have any interest in designing a complete electrical system?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
I actually do that a lot for people. We have a tier on Patreon called "Dream Believers". The perk of that level is phone contact (tends to follow into email and video conference) with us... Loads of people have used that as consulting and designing electrical systems. I like to do it and I always seem to find ways to make a better system for less money then planned. Makes the contribution worth it
@Spoony01
@Spoony01 2 жыл бұрын
Great Clark :-)
@stephenmurby7823
@stephenmurby7823 Жыл бұрын
Would wiring the LED in series between the pump and the battery achieve the same thing, as in it would be powered when and only when the pump is operating?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
No. The current would have to pass through both so only the current that the led could pass would be available to the pump. That wouldn't be enough to pump water.
@scottkrebs586
@scottkrebs586 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, call me silly safety guy but I'm still wiring the indicator light with heavy enough wire to match the rest of the circuit & breaker or I'm putting a fuse in it (where it's easily accessible near the panel / switch / light). Besides, good excuse to toss up another comment for you. Safe travels in Indy and have a blast you two!
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
And you are correct to do so. Both cases
@scottkrebs586
@scottkrebs586 2 жыл бұрын
@@Clarks-Adventure Saving the dodgy stuff for lake boat racing where a few ounces here and there adds up to pounds which adds up to 0.10ths. Can always swim to shore in my vest, can't say that offshore and when my home is at stake. :)
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Yep "either burn or drown"
@johndixon5097
@johndixon5097 2 жыл бұрын
Clark another great video, very educational. I had a situation the other day on a boat where the pump started working in reverse. No wires were changed and to my knowledge nothing (maintenance) was done to the boat. I discovered it by accident. The pump was running due to the float switch being triggered, but no water was being pumped out of the bilge. I thought the impeller was broken so I opened the cover flipped the switch and saw that the impeller was turning in the wrong direction. I flipped the pump wired and it worked correctly then. What could have made the reversal?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
No idea. Really that can't happen. Do you have evil spirits aboard?
@DaveMadeOne
@DaveMadeOne 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Clark, I needed to draw my own schematic to see how the LED was wired, and how it works. Do you have wiring schematics for Temptress?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Only in my head. But I will have an episode talking about a full yachts wiring schematic. I do things a bit differently.
@sergepilon21
@sergepilon21 Жыл бұрын
Wow, great videos ! We are just new to 12v and I can't seem to make seem to sense of the logic of protecting a wire with a fuse very near to the energy source... when in fact the energy is running through the circuit from the opposite direction (the black) so the fuse is at the end of the run of wire. You showed us how fast the wire burned in the last video. Are you telling us that if you had put a fuse into that circuit (the one that you burned the wire), that the fuse would have really burned out before that wire burned (even though it was down river)?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Yep. As far as up/down river goes, forget it. Change to this. If a wire breaks free is it more likely to find a positive thing to make mischief with or a negative thing? If you didn't think, negative thing, consider your ENGINE room and think again.
@Erndog67
@Erndog67 2 жыл бұрын
If like you said the electricity travels from negative to positive, why do you put the fuse by the positive terminal? Wouldn't that just protect the short wire from fuse to positive terminal? I apologise if I misunderstood something. Thanks for putting these videos out.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Read through the recent comments. I've answered it here.
@tuckerdukes
@tuckerdukes Жыл бұрын
If electrons actually flow from the negative terminal to the positive terminal , does that mean the safest place for the circuit breaker is beside the negative terminal and not the positive? Your videos are awesome and you are an excellent teacher.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Nope put it on the positive side. There are a lot more negatively charged big things around like your engine. If a stray positively charged wire touches something like your engine the fuse will protect you
@tuckerdukes
@tuckerdukes Жыл бұрын
@@Clarks-Adventure Wow, thank you for your quick reply. I’m on to the next video in the playlist :)
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Lots of good stuff in our backlog of videos. Enjoy.
@jongroover3606
@jongroover3606 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great content.. I really like your ac concept. QUESTION: I'm wiring a 12 volt horn that is 6 amps. I have 5 amp fuses and 7.5 amp fuses. What would you recommend? I leaning towards the 5 amp... Thanks, Jon
@braithmiller
@braithmiller 2 жыл бұрын
More important was the wire size? 14 gauge minimum boat wire is recommended so if that up to 15 amp protection would be safe. Why choose a fuse below the rated draw?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Braith is right. The 5 amp fuse will blow soon after you hit the switch the first time. I'd go at least 10amps minimum on the fuse and enough wire to safely handle it. A horn is safety gear it needs to work even if it's failing and drawing too much power. It's something you keep fed so it can work when you need it.
@annah3645
@annah3645 Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on similar bilge pumps, but that are automatic with an internal float switch? Seems like they would take up less space and less likely to have a stray wire hold the float switch down.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Like this one? kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4HClYR5obScmZY Love it.
@JPurontong
@JPurontong Жыл бұрын
Built in float switch, do you recommend? Thanks
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
I love these pumps. I have one on the dinghy for obvious reasons. The main bilge pump in Temptress press is now one as well.
@michaelthelastwarrior
@michaelthelastwarrior 2 жыл бұрын
Would this system work in a non-self bailing whiterwater raft. The system would need to be portable; meaning, install and remove as needed.
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Sure. It's just a pump and battery after all. Just a question of can the pump you choose keep up with the water you take on and will your battery last. I have one in our open 12 foot dinghy with a tiny solar panel.
@michaelthelastwarrior
@michaelthelastwarrior 2 жыл бұрын
@@Clarks-Adventure - gotcha! Thanks for reply!!✌🏽
@huntington46750
@huntington46750 Жыл бұрын
So. Is this wired direct to the battery or is it fed off the master disconnect for the entire boat?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure Жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter as it has its own circuit protection. I think bilge pumps are direct. They kinda trump any other electrical use.
@huntington46750
@huntington46750 Жыл бұрын
@@Clarks-Adventure I like the idea of having everything off when I’m away. Except for the bilge pump of course.
@dankdf6116
@dankdf6116 10 ай бұрын
Can I use adaptor for that intead of battery? And how much amp do i need it to work, seems like 12v 2amps isn't working,do i need Higher amps?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 10 ай бұрын
Look at your bilge pump. It should state it's amp draw on its case But 2 amps should start the pump in air. It would draw a lot more when pumping water, like 5 at least.
@sendeth
@sendeth 2 жыл бұрын
wouldn't you want this wired straight to the battery for when it is sitting in the water unattended (like at a marina)?
@Clarks-Adventure
@Clarks-Adventure 2 жыл бұрын
Better to sink then to burn. Besides you likely have back up pumps
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