Eminem - Kill Shot (MGK Diss) | DEHH Convo

Eminem responds to Machine Gun Kelly's diss track "Rap Devil." Was the track average? How should MGK respond? What's next? Is MGK's career over? We discuss that and more in this new convo.
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[@picassospajamas8078]

Everyone’s bashing the “man bun” line, but I saw it as a 1-to-1, with Eminem countering that “beard is weird” shit.

[@groovyq6743]

That's exactly what it is

[@sheercold26]

Thats exactly what it was

[@dysonspheretxi]

Yep. He was just mocking MGK and how stupid the weird beard line was. Like Myke said, this shit is not that hard to understand. Lol

[@skyedogg]

I have a man bun and I thought that line was funny af

[@letsgotomarsman]

The weird beard line goes back to a old Eminem song that he said whenever you grow a beard you should retire something dumb like that

[@TheMusicNerdz]

"Vibranium pen" 😂😂😂 I love mike man. He say it so real

[@CASSOBLVCK]

My man Kinge looking like a court appointed attorney. Get that money black man

[@luyindulamatondo4586]

Hahaha. He looks like a deacon at a black church 🤣🤣

[@SPFC2011]

CASSO BLVCK u still the comment legend?

[@TheKnightBlade4]

He looks like an old ass busted up Bun B

[@HertoftheCity]

Rafaelgasko black lord og

[@CASSOBLVCK]

Rafaelgasko nah I fell off

[@JJPHILLYLG]

You cant have a rational conversation with people online. Either you are dismissed as a Stan or as an Eminem hater.

[@SYMShutYoMouth]

That's because a lot of people online are exactly that.

[@rustedtooth3015]

@@SYMShutYoMouth You're part of the problem

[@superdupeninja8149]

JJPHILLYLG facts

[@SYMShutYoMouth]

@@rustedtooth3015 And how's that? Because both videos comment section on KZbin are filled with Stan's and Eminem haters. I'm calling it as is. I take issue with casuals pretending to be experts.

[@rustedtooth3015]

@@SYMShutYoMouth read your username

[@lukemervin95]

Lmao and MGK said he won't respond to Eminem... more like he just can't rap against Eminem anymore... out of ammo...

[@jtl9945]

Nahh bruhh.. MGK diss was better, this seems more about preference of rap styles less about actual rapping.

[@MsSniper78]

Lmaooo out of ammo thats so true

[@pheonixphlash]

no, not preference of rap styles, dip shit. it iS about actual rap. look at the lyrics on genius. it will explain every bar that went over your head.

[@KStreak]

@@jtl9945 You saying that gives you the L instead of Russ, which ultimately is another L for Russ.

[@amazin2point0]

Justin Lee you tripping if you think his diss was better. It might’ve been a better song but not a better distrack.

[@roknkawk]

Just listened to Binge and it's safe to say that Diddy did not put the hit out.

[@s.i.n.survivalinnegativity]

roknkawk U sir have the most underrated comment here. U won a free reply.

[@kevinhess7839]

This comment 🔥

[@serge6152]

i legit spat my water out lmao

[@Aces_Loaded9070]

That was a beautiful comment

[@K0NVICT]

Legend

[@L-vs7fp]

"Ain't nothing changed but the locks, muahh, give jade a kiss". Locks (beard, hair color) L.O.X. - (Jadakiss) Muahh ( Halie *Jade* Mathers) Jade a kiss (Mortal Kombat Jade fatality, Kiss of Death) BARS.

[@enigmanegus2845]

God-teir BARS!!!!

[@mooshe26]

Kiss of death is not jade fatality. It's Sonya blade

[@Dizzyj360]

The jade bar is jadakiss and give jade a kiss as in his daughter hailie jade becuase the beef stemmed from MGKs comments on hailie

[@RenaldyCalixte]

MGK fans aren't smart enough to understand this. Most younger hip hop fans have lines going over thier head like Olaf in Frozen.

[@aje2321]

No mortal kombat bar bro..jadakiss has an album and song called kiss of death ..that's the bar

[@westside1233211]

Can't BELIEVE how polarizing killshot has become. I swear, when i heard it for the first time my thoughts were "Ok, there is no way anyone can say Em didn't open up a can of whoopass" i thought for sure this was an easy win for Em. Shit is crazy

[@jennag3226]

Bc it's all about a hot beat and a catchy hook to a lot of people. And then you have the people that have just never liked em to begin with.

[@mikaelmilnikov]

Jay Green and the people who don’t like what Eminem represents: powerful man who made something out of nothing. He is too good and too successful. People are liking MGK for being mediocre because that makes him more relatable.

[@arthurbertram4398]

I thought it was an easy win too. Problem is, a lot of the kids these days are too impatient to let the significance of a lyric sink in or too lazy to even open their minds to it. They want something easy to understand. They want that instant gratification for nothing. Low hanging fruit that requires little or no effort to comprehend. Low risk/low reward. I mean, it's obvious when you look at 99% of these reaction videos. All you see is a little head bobbing in places where they should be losing their shit because of the jabs being thrown. They're too lazy and stupid to hear the meanings behind the words. Same reason most of them lost their shit during the now stupidly infamous Diddy/Pac line. They're too damn stupid to realize that Em was saying it never happened/will never happen. Instead, you get a reaction of "Why you do Diddy like that?"/"OMG! Did he just say that?!" It's exhausting, infuriating, and ridiculous that so many of these people can't even comprehend a straightforward line of lyric that's not even a play on words. And unfortunately, it says a lot about how dumb people have become in such a short amount of time. I don't know what's causing the mass retardation. But I hope we're able to turn it around.

[@Thinkableness]

@@mikaelmilnikov people love the under dog

[@wayne2746]

westside1233211 have you thought maybe the diss track wasn’t all of what you made it out to be? I won’t say MGK won but its a lot closer to a tie than it is an “easy win”. Eminem is more lyrical and should have destroyed him. When you break down what eminem had to say, he really said a bunch of nothing. Sure he rebuttals a lot but it didn’t blow me away.

[@user-gu1sl1mn2m]

The vibranium pen killed me 😂

[@ClassicLow101]

Lol Eminem had more energy for Mariah than he did for MGK

[@TheDarkAdventure]

Mariah had a better diss than MGK

[@SnookyDre]

Factsssss

[@loki3386]

@@TheDarkAdventure 😂😂 damn u right

[@Hamzethegoat]

Cause Eminem really slepted with Mariah more personal to him also Mariah dropped a hit Em basically say something else im dropping the sextape and she stayed quiet

[@HappyGuy343]

Mariah was more personal than MGK

[@MrMikey1992]

Joyner Lucas is now checking hopsin😂😂😂 Joyner is waiting to battle someone

[@s.i.n.survivalinnegativity]

Zach saylor Yea he already tried to bait Logic into a suicide mission.

[@higglyjuff]

I really don't understand that one. They have no reason to beef. They're just puffing their chests.

[@rustedtooth3015]

@@higglyjuff i just want to see people rapping against each other. Test their craft.

[@s.i.n.survivalinnegativity]

@@rustedtooth3015 I think he was waiting on an actual battle not a sneak diss. I feel u tho, name or no name, I still would've responded.

[@kareemsc9913]

I feel and hope that it’s fake beef. Just fuckiing around. I’m a fan of both and I’m sure they’ve been friends.

[@natebrockbank5663]

Dude with dreds, is speaking the truth 100%

[@carbon273]

Nate Brockbank he usually does.

[@jamesdjl4359]

That's a fact

[@raa6894]

He's my favorite 😂

[@3lancerofficialmaybe871]

The ghost of Afeni Shakur speaking facts!

[@johnsondailysports1341]

Myke always does

[@223shockwave]

Killshot was a significantly better song in my opinion

[@Alex-sr7xu]

I don't give a fuck what anybody says, it's better from an objective stand point.

[@Roonoon2]

DEHH say they won't be listening to it a week from now, but for me this is one of the few recent Eminem songs that actually has high replayability.

[@223shockwave]

Roonoon2 that’s what I was thinking

[@markob53]

Rap Devil was a better song but Killshot was a better diss imo.

[@oscarmarroquin4374]

It was better but thats not what an mc battle is about. Lyrically eminem schooled mgk. But i was impressed by mgk, but he shouldnt have come at em . Hr should know better.

[@bloodmoon4937]

BigQuint said it best.. “Eminem won, and he wasn’t even trying that hard”

[@bboystone86]

Killshot deserves all the praise. So does DEHH.

[@gotrac8121]

It just wasn't enough to win the battle.

[@AntivistDragz]

@@gotrac8121 that's a pretty stupid comment

[@jennag3226]

@@gotrac8121 it was more than enough dawg. Goddamn y'all have become so hip hop illiterate

[@gotrac8121]

@@AntivistDragz such a good retort, so much reason, very logic

[@gotrac8121]

@@jennag3226 sounds like ya'll just narrow minded; his song was more entertaining, enjoyable as a song, lyrics were solid and he had more varied and valid points. The only thing people have (and what they tout funnily enough ) is that em rhymed better.

[@reshaymcqueen7792]

Vibranium Pen had me rollin 😂😂😂😂😂

[@xavisonline]

Myke is on point with the 'retort' bit. Em went through MGK's song line by line and flipped it back on him (except for the blackballing accusation, which he denied in the interview), while rapping circles around him. Other than shoehorning in contrived references to MGK songs that most wouldn't have heard, what more could anyone possibly ask? EDIT: He did address the blackballing thing in-song. I missed that Swayze line.

[@jennag3226]

No. He also flipped that with "Say one call to interscope and you're swayze " In others words em is saying I didn't blackball you bc here you are. If I wanted to do that shit you'd already be ghost.

[@spaceship3196]

Jay Green and also said “let’s talk about something I don’t really do, go into someone’s daughters mouth stealing food” Mgk said em was taking food out his daughters mouth by black ballin him

[@intelligencecycle3523]

@@spaceship3196 when did MGK steal food or be called a mumble rapper become a popular trend? Just so wrong & convoluted.

[@jennag3226]

@@intelligencecycle3523 Wtf is so hard for you to understand? Yes. It means you disappear. It means you're gone. Eminem literally said if I wanted you to disappear you wouldn't be here right now. You wouldn't be all up on hot97 and power 106 etc doing interviews and getting airplay and dropping freestyles on LA Leakers that sneak diss me. You wouldn't be on features with tech9 when Eminem is techs favorite rapper and they're good friends and em gave tech9 a verse for free. You sure as shit wouldn't be on yelawolfs upcoming album when yelawolf is signed to SHADY RECORDS. Em said I could easily make one call to interscope and have you out of here like you were a ghost. Obviously he hasn't done that bc here mgk is.

[@intelligencecycle3523]

@@jennag3226 yelawolf, mgk, Eminem are on same label BTW interscope which revolves around shady records. Em did not say that verbatim quit putting words in his mouth. Reason for tech 9 feature wasn't cause of Eminem cause tech had desire to work wit mgk in the past.

[@WalshieYT1]

Hearing Myke support my views makes me feel like a musical intellectual.

[@223shockwave]

This notification increased my reaction time by 10 seconds

[@noviedeos]

Ahoora Assaf damn ur reaction time must a been slow af

[@223shockwave]

ratmasked lil bit

[@willt8848]

The knock most people are using against Killshot is that it's too rappity rap and it's just a bunch of words. Now where did I hear this critique before? Joe Budden. People have taken his narrative and ran with it.

[@martytu20]

And Joe doesn't do rappity rap? His baby Slaughterhouse was signed by Eminem because it was pure lyricism. He even lost money promoting their album.

[@willt8848]

@Nik 117 You do realize Joe said Em had great content when he was on Everyday Struggle? That invalidates his argument and shows him to be a little phony. Joe's word is not to be taken as gospel. Also let's keep it real, Slaughterhouse was never gonna sell a bunch of albums. I only heard of Slaughterhouse cause Joe got punched in the eye and alot of people I know don't like any of them individually. Slaughterhouse was popping on the internet but the streets and radio wasn't messing with it where I live. It is what it is.

[@bizarrenrugged3370]

@Nik 11721, Joe Budden is known for a podcast and talk shows. if you have better content, show and prove, don't be a crybaby about it. slaughterhouse was made for underground, they weren't gonna be that big anyway. what does he have to lose? go at Eminem. if your better than him, PROVE IT.

[@willt8848]

@Nik 117 First off, you mentioned Joe's argument and I'm saying his opinion on Em I take with a grain of salt. Far as Slaughterhouse, was that core following going help them go platinum? Or were they always gonna be a dope group that sold 200k if lucky in this day? The problem lies in people who thought it was a supergroup. A supergroup is Jay, Ja and X. They we're 4 good rappers with struggling careers at that point.

[@willt8848]

@Nik 117 I'm tired of hearing about Joe's catalog as if it's chalk filled with classics and hits. He has some ok songs but let's not make it more than it is.

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

People still watch Akademiks?!

[@chefbaxter2211]

obviously, they do....

[@AnimeProfilePicture]

Yeah he got his little crew of enablers still

[@upfulsoul826]

He's better than CharKelly, at least.

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

@@upfulsoul826 If you say so.

[@calgsus911]

I tune in to his shit for hip hop news. He opinions on music is the same as a thirteen year old.

[@Thisguyecm]

Mgk sounded super bitter about Eminem being rich and still has issues with depression. Like money doesn't make ur life happier. It's temporary happiness.

[@shakanilsuveges2768]

I took an L... i listened to mgk's binge yesterday to see what he is about. That was shit stains in a toilet. That shit should have been mumbled, instead i had to listen to trash asf bars. Im sorry dehh, i disappoint the community

[@s.i.n.survivalinnegativity]

Shakanil Suveges Hahahahaha. U & mad other ppl fam. I was lucky enough to check him in the early days & realize nothing was there.

[@somenamewhatever]

Aye at least you warned everybody who read this so good looking out

[@greenbackz]

did u at least download a pirated copy so u ain;t give him the extra plays? lol

[@shakanilsuveges2768]

@@greenbackz i am never going near that shit again

[@greenbackz]

@@shakanilsuveges2768 yah but if u listened on Spotify or streaming service you're giving mgk plays.. If I'm gonna check that trash out I'll download the mp3s so mgk doesn't make a fraction of pennies off my plays 😂😂

[@adelmoricardo7745]

Myke is so unpredictable I swear. Also, I’m blocked by him for some reason

[@steezyyeezy6936]

éb sôl sôl deep down inside I know he loves you. Dont let it bother you.

[@AnimeProfilePicture]

You probably said something that annoyed him once

[@adelmoricardo7745]

He was super mad that someone said KRS-1 looked like him and I tagged a friend with “😂😂look at this”. And he blocked me

[@steezyyeezy6936]

éb sôl sôl holy shit he does look like KRS-1 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rustedtooth3015]

@God of the Matrix if you believe in horoscopes you need to check yo self before you wreck yo self

[@MrMikey1992]

Mgk is not playing his cards right. If u guys check out his cringe EP it was complete trash

[@CynicalPoet92]

Nice haha

[@Hahnbros]

He actually released that EP?

[@CynicalPoet92]

@@Hahnbros it was a nice attempt. And I emphasize attempt. I tried going into it without the whole clout involved and being fan of Mgk I was disappointed.

[@jamesdjl4359]

One if the worst albums I've ever heard.

[@hadesBOLT]

Myke got in depth knowledge of what A diss is.

[@ImagineMyEmpire]

This is what I've gathered from this conversation. MGK made a good diss for MGK standards, Em made a good diss track with the lackluster subject matter provided.

[@jampanther8846]

Exactly!! That's all I kept telling Em Stan's and they wouldn't listen. All Em did was son him and talk about his money and fame over MGK. It wasn't a KILL SHOT though. I hope they keep going but MGK said he's done.

[@ImagineMyEmpire]

@@jampanther8846 That's not what I'm saying. Em still completely destroyed him in terms of a battle. The only reason Em's disses were so shallow is because it's impossible to do a deep dive on MGK because he's that mundane & irrelevant.

[@ImagineMyEmpire]

@@jampanther8846 MGK had 25 years of dirt he could dig up & yet he still went for the shallow bars talking about his old age and his "weird beard". Essentially Em was able to make as in depth of a diss about a nobody he possibly could have made, making something out of nothing. Em wins on that fact alone. Em was a huge target that MGK could have hit from all different angles, MGK is barely a target to hit at all.

[@jampanther8846]

@@ImagineMyEmpire Then since MGK is up and coming White rapper should Em have even responded?? Should of just baited Joe out of retirement and dropped a song on him.

[@Nobody-br1rq]

@@jampanther8846 up and coming? LMFAOOO

[@kevinordiales9918]

It seems like mainstream media is against Em for some reason. I don’t know what other people are hearing, but Killshot was fire. I haven’t heard Em flow like that in a long time, it’ll be nice if he continues to layoff the fast stuff.... Does Dj Academics Dj?

[@user-in7bu8jk8v]

mainstream media has ALWAYS been against eminem tbf

[@imperialshalom]

MGK did not create enough of a challenge for Em to bury him. The man literally had nothing to work with!

[@EFerrorfile]

I agree. Yes.

[@celifacejones]

EXACTLY.

[@SYMShutYoMouth]

Y'all see how MGK was acting hard on The Breakfast Club (because Diddy owns it). To Feefo's point Eminem dissed him harder. Great review!

[@amberbrown164]

ShutYoMouth Hows he supposed to act? This is hip hop.

[@SYMShutYoMouth]

@@amberbrown164 Not fake tough. Especially after his cornball ass has been seen looking like a bitch on MTV's catfish. Hip Hop isn't about putting up a front. Just because Modern rappers are clowns who lie to their fans doesn't make it right. MGK is a white boy from Cleveland. Get the fuck outta here with that "Isn't he supposed to act tough" shit.

[@edwin99901]

That interview was filled with lies and contradictions.

[@upfulsoul826]

MGK would beat Em's ass. That's not even a debate.

[@SYMShutYoMouth]

@Nik 117 Diddy owns Revolt TV. The Breakfast Club airs on Revolt. He has some ownership of the Breakfast Club. Do your research kiddo.

[@cincybest]

Most of the people who thought that killshot wasn't a great diss and had Em losing also thought Blackface Drake was going to murder Pusha T are just casual listeners of hip hop and not real fans . They are the same people behind most of the garbage being packaged as music on mainstream radio. They are lazy and ignorant and can't begin to appreciate the complexities of the diss or songs like Not Alike ,Fall or the Ringer.

[@Independent365]

REAL hiphop heads know Killshot was better if you actually look at the lyrics and take in the references throughout this beef. Kelly's had immature surface level disses imo.

[@aos1762]

That dude with the dreads is the audiences voice😂

[@BucketsBasketball]

I don’t understand how Killshot is wack in anyway, he literally flipped Rap Devil back on MGK with twice the skill and bars, Em won easily

[@temporarymusiclover]

Nope eminem had a better diss. I don't care what anybody says.

[@twinjuice17]

EM's diss was garbage.,, I grew up on EM, but his diss was wack MGK won hands down don't wanna hear ( no he just had the better song ) hit em up by tu pac was a good song no vazaline by ice cube is a good song so is ether by Nas. That kill shot was mud I can't listen to it multiple times then the lyrics made it even worse... JOE BUDDEN SAID,.. EM is a good rymer of words but says nothing... EM tried so hard to make sense of what he was saying and it showed in this diss track

[@0neup1]

That's just prove your bias

[@upfulsoul826]

Nope MGK had a better diss. I don't care what anybody says.

[@jadenvanhess2341]

twinjuice17 let me sum up Rap Devil “Your Beard is Weird” “You Old and rich” “Lol now you respond”. Em’s Diss reminded him he a son, mocked his corny lines and actually came with hard facts. Then MGK tripped on the gun and shot himself in the head by tryin to act like Fallout Boys’ fans were his and got a swarm of boos. MGK a clown. You can even tell in the new Breakfast Club interview the shit hurt him. That’s why he can’t respond.

[@twinjuice17]

@@jadenvanhess2341 you sounded stupid his bars are not just those the good ones was the recover/ Stop the thugger / living in luxery... Go listen before before you speak EM doged the whole black ball thing.. But talked about his money and accomplishments. MGK talked about shit that we knew nothing about until he brought,it up

[@junpi8562]

I think Eminem's big problem since Recovery has been chasing another hit like Stan or Love the Way You Lie. All those female features, the heavy Skylar Grey influence (and when not her, a Skylar substitute like Bebe), it was making him soft - the apologies, soul searching, etc. I think the Walk on Water hate hit him hard because he expected it to be loved - Em pouring his heart out, Skylar, Beyonce, how could it fail... I hope the success of Kamikaze is enough to shake him out of that comfort zone for good...

[@florida_mane6267]

I very much agree, But who are the people (other than his hardcore stans) really like that type of music? I'm genuinely curious.

[@DLloydisDFG]

Kamikaze is 7.5 outta 10, still no were near his best. Thank god we got Lupe Fiasco!

[@BurningZeal]

Lupe has made many shit albums too. His last one was good though

[@martytu20]

Burning Zeal Lupe at least had record label hell as an excuse for his shitty albums. LAZERS was a let down after Food and Liquor and The Cool.

[@DLloydisDFG]

@@BurningZeal Lupe Has 4 Classic albums, Eminem has 1.

[@itsyujen]

someone on twitter said “Why use a flamethrower to kill a roach?” And that’s the best way to describe why Beezy seemed uninterested in the track. Why would Em go that hard on someone so below his skill level?

[@eddlover2009]

Facts!

[@armandmendiola5054]

People wanted Eminem dissing MGK like he dissed Benzino on the Green Lantern mixtape

[@masterofthecraft1990]

Its cool to hate on em these days.... #Sad a GOAT getting so much disrespect

[@Alex-sr7xu]

Master Of The Craft This is the only genre where we shit on legends...its rediculous.😒

[@florida_mane6267]

@@Alex-sr7xu I see your point, but in the 80's all sorts of punk bands were dissing guys like The Beatles, and The Rolling Stones.

[@GoldieVoerman]

Alex is Exactly PAC was getting disrespect I’m waiting for people to disrespect Jay Z his time coming soon lls

[@jlkailua]

David Blair Em has always been a polarizing figure in hip hop. He’s white and a goat. A lot of racist whites use him to rub it in black people’s face and therefore black people as a whole will only tolerate him and not fully celebrate him. But anyone who’s a hip hop nerd will Stan out on Em, especially when he’s actually motivated to make good music. Thank you Royce and Budden, too.

[@michaelfletcher5753]

Master Of The Craft word fam what going on in this world

[@michaelrobinson9708]

The younger generation of people who are brainwashed by Drake and Migos will NEVER fully appreciate the complexity and depth in Eminems tracks let alone Killshot. Em won end of discussion. If you disagree...you clearly don’t appreciate rap on a deeper level. Smh 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@corneliusrawness]

EMINEM. WON. FUCKING. PERIOD. This proves lyricism is essentially dead.... it's a sad sad time

[@gamergeekboi9797]

Em murdered Nerf Gun Kelly.

[@darnellbonds9240]

MGK got washed hands down. Eminem did exactly what he was supposed to do he put in light work for a light weight and executed it perfectly! What's truly sad bout this is MGK had a moment of momentum and put out a garbage album! Like my man Paul Mooney said " what a waste of white skin" lol

[@Juanito77017]

Eminem was so strategic with it too. Like even the name of the songs. Is Killshot ... a movie where Colson (mgks real name) dies. Also anniversary of Patrick swayzee. Eminem went in IG life to play Pac-Man. Which mgk gots tattooed on under is neck. Eminem is the king at details in this beef.

[@ismaelmendoza2046]

“Have to give you a career to destroy it” was my fav line

[@Misty994]

Really wish you guys would pull out rap genius and discuss bars more when you have these track conversations.

[@supremeelite1833]

Kinge looking like he just came back from church lmfao

[@Leviathanrko]

He was praying for mgk

[@nickolassucharew840]

Even Ems tone of voice hit way harder than MGKs. I felt the aggression way more, and it felt like every punch line was a hard ass blow

[@BuyandSellwithBill]

I’m still listening to Kill Shot. He took everything MGK said in Rap Devil, dissected it and flipped it on him, including things from the video. There are some crazy bars on that track. I feel like they’re being glossed over because MGK wasn’t a worthy opponent.

[@OurFoundingLiars]

MGK didn’t ask questions

[@mrrager2046]

Our Founding Liars this is my 3rd time running into you in the last 24hrs I am starting to believe you’re secretly an FBI agent using conspiracy theory’s as a cover up for your true identity. I know you’re after my organs. Keep asking questions...

[@OurFoundingLiars]

Mr Rager - you’re the one that asked questions on a brockhampton song right? Wasn’t even mad, I was proud. Keep asking questions

[@mrrager2046]

Our Founding Liars ,yes it was eye.

[@randomthoughtreviews3101]

High school rhymes

[@myncraft1]

What do i do when they dab on me, i tried asking questions.

[@dellayassine]

'He needs a vibranium pen, to ever rap like Em' Bars🔥🔥🔥! This line was better than anything on "Rap Devil."

[@Svetz17]

Been waiting to hear y’all’s thoughts on this. Notification box got blessed 🙏🏼.

[@SolidSnake240]

Mgk had some decent jabs but the song overall isn't memorable. Em just sonned him

[@upfulsoul826]

He didn't son shit.

[@xUseTheForks]

@@upfulsoul826 your just a hater, just take the L's

[@jennag3226]

@@upfulsoul826 He absolutely did though. Made mgk look like he just jumped right out of the Stan track.

[@SolidSnake240]

@@upfulsoul826 That was a very intelligent and thoughtful response.

[@BlackHippy313]

Upful Soul I can tell your trolling now

[@jtothey1993]

Had a rough day all day. But this helps! Thanks for the upload and keep up the good work!

[@zayuh1896]

I clicked that notification so fast

[@milesleblanc164]

Same. Notification squad over here.

[@deandrek4057]

Killshot is important to hip hop history, the same way we do not go out of our way to play "The takeova" or "Ether" we won't be seeking to listen to "Killshot", but we will be happy to have witness the skill put forth on em's track in just how it was different than Kelly's which hardly qualifies as a diss track the same way as killshot didn't have a whole lot to say about Kelly. Nevertheless killshot is better than rap devil competitively speaking.

[@wspeed657]

I'm glad you guys are back to having discussions instead of the formal round table shit you were doing. Listening to conversation is better than talking points. Thank you!

[@bnoble976]

Love y’all discussion session just wish they were longer. 👍🏾💯

[@genosiaproduction7091]

And people still say that MGK killed Em in Instagram 🙄 I hate my generation

[@joshuasutton983]

Justin Rios And Eminem fans was saying he killed MGK before he even responded.

[@deonnelson9780]

@@joshuasutton983 true

[@genosiaproduction7091]

Joshua Sutton and he did kill MGK because they already know what Eminem is capable of due to his history of beefs.....

[@florida_mane6267]

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[@jennag3226]

@@joshuasutton983 Bc not alike was better...

[@osimacpr]

Yooo thanks so much for you all keeping it real, you guys get it, true hip hop heads know.

[@SpiderKnife1]

Been looking forward to you guys video on this. Thanks for sharing your bit!

[@hbizzle8037]

Beard vs Man bun

[@jamesonchandler971]

Myke is right. People are telling me that Rap Devil was better and I'm like , "Were you not fully conscious when you heard Eminem's track." I'm so tired of people blinded by the fact that MGK made a catchier song, and that they think that's the reason his was better in their opinion. Wrong. The winner is the artist who can outrap the other. The winner will: outrap the other, create double and triple entendres, hard hitting bars, etc. Eminem did just that. He won and it wasn't even close. Younger blinded fans open your ears. You are just too lazy to dissect the bars Eminem had, and that's why you don't like his if you are one who doesn't like his diss.

[@ElijahMC2000]

Agreed

[@viytalic9049]

Damn im subscribing to you guys, dude in dreads really understands the whole situation and everyone had good points. People dont understand why there was no knockout punch and they give it to MGK because its catchy and has a beat.

[@bushmanadami]

Hey guys, love the video, love you guys. One thing I will say about your convos nowadays is that sometimes you guys tend to discuss more about what other people are saying on social media than how you guys actually felt about the topic yourselves. I understand public reception is part of the convo too but I feel like it can take away from actually discussing the details of the topic and your own personal feelings towards it. It kind of takes away from the dynamic you guys have sometimes as well, but I still enjoyed the video. Big up.

[@PatriiickMusic]

Dashte, new DEHH, love the conversations

[@nathandem2860]

"You need a vibranium pen to rap like Em" BARS MYKE

[@senorsavage8702]

mmlp2 is a great album and it came out 2013

[@francohuaro5331]

Is so underrated

[@aaron5049]

TRASH

[@stephendavies7355]

It's a dud for me.

[@christophermoreno1615]

It’s in my top 4 for Em.

[@jaquaistaylor3794]

Evil twin is probably my favorite Eminem song

[@astrotrain3332]

you guys are hilarious and the talk was super interesting. subbed!

[@Scottni2]

Been waitin' foh dis!!

[@lowkeyloki8832]

Kon look like Akademiks and Khalid did the fusion dance

[@themvment4304]

I've been hearing people call me Khalid a lot lately.

[@TWIZZTHEWHIZKID]

Mike is absolutely correct about what he stated when he said this new generation doesn't understand the differnce between making a diss track & a song. It's not about whose song is better... it's about being the better emcee, being more witty, & displaying who's more technical skill wise.

[@Lakeshow_boss]

I’m here for a great review I’m driving home from work right now this gives me something to listen to let’s get it🤟🏾

[@skylevel01]

I've been waiting for this

[@Ben09P]

The Em diss track was a B-. MGK diss track was an average C. Joe Budden on his podcast saying, "I've talked to Diddy, he said he heard it..." made me laugh! Joe wants Em to drop that Hit Em Up diss track, therefore he can respond. No, Joe. It doesn't work that way. Em said it was just a tap.

[@corneliusrawness]

Joe has won me over and got me completely on his side only to punk out of a potential classic battle.

[@Ben09P]

Isn't that what Joe wanted and probably got?! Wanted more people on his side b4 he drops a joint. But because Em didn't drop a full diss track... Joe backed out. Weak move. Joe is trying to play chess with Em, but Em is one move ahead by tapping him on the shoulder.

[@nrgiseternal3109]

Killshot is eminem's most thorough destruction of a rapper in any beef hes been in. If you dont get that the bars went over ya head... facts

[@imanirfan6310]

This was lit btw🔥🔥🔥with you guys having like 3 generations-worth of point of view, this was my first time on this channel & i'm subscribing 👍👍😆

[@Daduu]

My first time clicking on this channel and whoever was speaking at the beginning spoke straight facts 💯 clicked the sub button hella fast

[@Svetz17]

I mean guys. I get what you’re saying. I still think it was a savage diss track for what it was. And in terms of the decade (understanding that there haven’t been many good disses this decade) It’s up there for sure.

[@MarksimusPrime]

It wasn't that Kill Shot was weak, it was just that Em did the bare minimum necessary to handle MGK. Em went for the effective route as opposed to some huge career-ending verbal assault. Additionally, I think he's using this MGK situation to bait Joe Budden into saying something about him on a record. I honestly feel like every time he raps he'll give Budden a jab until he jumps out the window.

[@AlexandreDuqueque]

Great convo! Nice inputs from everyone

[@JakeyTheMistakey]

Why do you guys not have more subscribers? This conversation was great!!!

[@blackpanther8283]

Eminem destroyed that fool

[@albertcazares9092]

Rip lil goof

[@robertkirby5955]

Once again, Myke gives the hip-hop community logic that can't be debated even if Hell ACTUALLY froze over.

[@robertkirby5955]

Name me 3 things that he said in this particular video that was wrong, back it up with evidence and I'll voluntarily take an L for saying he gives logic if you seriously think that he does not.

[@robertkirby5955]

Ok, to an extent I get what you're trying to say but you're thinking about this too deeply. The thing is, people actually DID misunderstand that line (Jay Electronica for example). They thought that Em was saying that Puff really WAS responsible for 2Pac's fatal event in Las Vegas back in 1996. And if you know Eminem's history of controversial lyrics that ruffle the general public's feathers, literally no one (especially in 2018) should be surprised or offended that Em said that. And Em has said the quote, "I'm just playing 'such-and-such', you know I love you" 3 times in his career prior to this "Killshot" joint: "Kill You", "White America" and "So Much Better".

[@robertkirby5955]

Again, while I understand where you're coming from, you're still thinking about it too deeply. He said that it does not HAVE to be a "good SONG". It CAN be a "good SONG" (which I personally thought that both were), but the MAIN purpose of a diss track is to verbally assault the person that the emcee is targeting. There's no certain rule that says that you should or should not make a diss track in SONG form (i.e. with a catchy hook, which is what DEHH, specifically Myke, pointed out in the video). Eminem is the type of emcee where his lyrics DO have to be deciphered, and to some extent, in my personal opinion, MGK is too. Boogie Down Productions...not neccessarily.

[@robertkirby5955]

I agree that complex rhyme schemes don't automatically equal a win in a rap beef. My main point (which was also Myke's point in the video) was that Eminem came straight from the battling circuit in hip-hop. So just like his B-Rabbit character in "8 Mile", his main technique to 1-up his opponents is to take what they say to him and throw it back in their face and make them look stupid. That's what Em did to MGK; there wasn't much for him to say in "Killshot" like Myke pointed out. All Eminem had to do was out-rap him (which was FAR from difficult) by retorting all the shit that MGK said (old, just yelling at the mic, complaining while being rich). MGK wasn't really saying anything different from what other people who have been critical of modern-day Eminem have been saying for the past decade. The "man-bun" line was retorting MGK's "beard is weird" line, and Eminem actually made sound a little bit clever (although I do agree that the flow when he said it was somewhat cringe-worthy). Eminem didn't win this just based off of his complexity and/or him just simply being lyrically better than MGK. It took 2-3 weeks for "Rap Devil" to hit 100 million views (and it only became popular because of whom the diss was targeted at). Eminem's "Killshot" took LESS than a week, not even a FULL one, to reach 100 million. What does MGK have going for him right now? What did he even have going for him prior to this beef? Like Em said in his diss, he had to give him a career to destroy it. "Wild Boy" and its remix were both huge 6-7 years ago, but MGK could never make another hit that was on par with that, let alone surpass it. And that's a shame because "Invincible" and "Bad Things" both had the potential to do that in my opinion. I even think that his song "Lately" from his new EP has that potential. But MGK is starting to make himself look worse since the "Killshot" joint dropped...from the concert (and the social media pictures from said concert), the Breakfast Club interview (specifically the part where he said that he's not going to even respond to Em's diss...despite the fact that MGK claimed to be superior in this beef, yet doesn't have the balls to even prove it). All of this both justifies and solidifies why Myke was correct in this video.

[@heroesofhers]

omg been waitin all week for this. THANKS BOYS

[@YungJ]

Best review.. love y’all content.

[@jamesdjl4359]

I used to listen to MGK. Back in 2010-2013 he had lace up and general admission. Two solid albums. So I'm no stan. But, the hypocrisy of MGK is calling eminems last couple albums whack when MGK's last couple albums have been whack(even by his own standards). Killshot was so much more lyrical and layered than rap devil. Then Binge dropped while mgk had all this attention and it's one of the worst albums I've ever heard. Just my two cents though.

[@james2155]

Clicked immediately

[@waynejohnston9429]

Great vid

[@toonse3683]

I'm subscribing like the real talk u guys have

[@arielhernandez53]

can’t wait for the DROGAS Wave review, y’all are gonna love it

[@ihavemydignity]

I'm sure you guys are hearing a lot of this on twitter but the Boos at the fall out boy concert were fake. Edited video. He still 100% tricked that audience with the middle finger thing.

[@Psyteth]

Either way, even in the other vid, the cheers were minimal for the crowd size seen and I still heard boos and hes pushing 30, as an opening act still lol. Still an L for me.

[@camronfontaine9183]

This young man is well spoken. I'd like to see him in future videos with you guys

[@basstheory9384]

"It's not how many fights you won, it's WHO you fought." -Loaded Lux (Against Calicoe)

[@crististone2433]

6:15! Exactly! There is NOTHING to say about MGK, there is nothing much to him. If Em had slaughtered him saying just how much of a nothing MGK is, then everyone would be whining that Em is the mean big guy. He just showed everyone by out-rapping him. In my opinion it would have been debasing for Em to even try to scrounge around for actual surprising dirt on MGK. What, we want Em to nose around to see if MGK cheated on high school tests or something?

[@A.Shawnee]

I just always find it funny when people say "That's good for MGK." When they never listened to any of MGK's music...

[@creativeperson5858]

because MGKs music is garbage

[@bulletman001]

If MGK was really good they woulda heard of his stuff already....

[@A.Shawnee]

Oh, I didn't know the time in which you heard of someone or their work, validated them or it being good or not. That's what music discovery is . I just don't buy hating on a smaller artist without at least giving them a shot first. I bet 90% of people saying MGK sucks have only heard him on this diss track.

[@bulletman001]

He's been out for nearly a decade and still hadn't blew? C'mon lol

[@gdavis2bn]

Yes we've heard his music but it isn't all that good. So Rap Devil was good for him.

[@SKEGEETV]

This was a great convo!!

[@darrenjeffes9457]

eminem with that word play lyrically put mgk to shame killshot lyrically destroyed rap devil. eminem showed how to bury someone's career.

[@vulc7500]

It's not so much that Eminem's track was weak, it was just a different approach because of who was attacking him. It was a strong diss track towards the person it was intended to go to. Of course it wouldn't be as good if it was attacking a better lyricist, but that's the thing, if it was attacking a better lyricist it would have been stronger towards that specific opponent. It's like openings in chess, some players you should play different type of openings against. Eminem did the best track he could vs MGK and it slaughtered him. Period. If you change the target, you have to give the benefit of changing the song, so it's just pointless to compare the diss to other rappers because it wasn't intended to be a diss anyone other than MGK.

[@alexanderrock1417]

Finally, a good conversation about this beef! Great video DEHH. Yes Eminem out rapped MGK! Yes the Diddy line ain’t a big deal! MGK is a clown, to me he lost this battle but he just keeps going with it claiming he won 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@siosinsin7305]

Bless y’all

[@anaa3395]

I'm from the UK been watching your videos for the last few months it's brought me back to US hip hop!I loved what you said about kids expecting pusha t kind of diss where you have to out secret children to win!it's just not needed to win a rap battle. You guys are awesome.