Emirates Plane Crash at Dubai (Emirates Flight 521) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN

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@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown 2 жыл бұрын
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@kevin6293
@kevin6293 2 жыл бұрын
Do Saudiia 163 please.
@mozvidz
@mozvidz 2 жыл бұрын
*_This one I actually remember in the News where they showed people coming out with bags, and walking in a chill manner, some laughing about how they made it out with their luggage._*
@strikermodeling4201
@strikermodeling4201 2 жыл бұрын
The firefighter who was killed was 27-year-old Jasim Issa Mohammed Hassan, and he was credited with saving dozens of lives. A true hero.
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer 2 жыл бұрын
💔
@flong9033
@flong9033 2 жыл бұрын
RIP
@abouzeidh
@abouzeidh 2 жыл бұрын
May he rest in peace. A true hero.
@TransistorBased
@TransistorBased 2 жыл бұрын
Just being around fire pits and bonfires, it's insane how hot a traditional wood fire can get. I can't even imagine how crazy it must be to try and fight a jet fuel fire. Anybody doing that is definitely a hero
@skunkrat01
@skunkrat01 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing his name, it's important we remember people like him
@JIMJAMSC
@JIMJAMSC 2 жыл бұрын
Another unknown aviation rule when evacuating. If a person is blocking you from exiting a plane that is on fire, it is perfectly acceptable to drop kick and or punch that person.
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer 2 жыл бұрын
You should definitely use force to get compliance at that point.
@henryptung
@henryptung 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it'd be a bit in-your-face as a rule, but maybe triggering an evacuation should also auto-lock all the luggage compartments.
@Sashazur
@Sashazur 2 жыл бұрын
@@henryptungThat’s a clever idea, but I’m guessing there would still be a delay while clueless people wasted time unsuccessfully trying to open them.
@potato1907
@potato1907 2 жыл бұрын
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO
@Volodimar
@Volodimar 2 жыл бұрын
That person would fall and block the passage tho
@sally_buckley
@sally_buckley 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being so incredibly selfish as a passenger to start unloading your luggage while the plane is LITERALLY ON FIRE.
@Trispefear
@Trispefear 2 жыл бұрын
Some people are in their own little world
@chiara7808
@chiara7808 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda understand when people freeze in case of emergency (I've heard it might happen), but staying behind, slowing the evacuation process down? WTF
@benjbk
@benjbk 2 жыл бұрын
Or making videos of other people doing it.
@patrickmollohan3082
@patrickmollohan3082 2 жыл бұрын
@@chiara7808 Grab them.by the back of the neck and forcibly direct then to the escape area!!
@martinc.720
@martinc.720 2 жыл бұрын
As opposed to "figuratively" on fire?
@GeoffreyGodshall
@GeoffreyGodshall 2 жыл бұрын
As a pilot, I cannot fathom not having your hand physically on the throttles. Especially when they knew it would be a challenging landing. Very strange, this one.
@30769s
@30769s 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I'm a student pilot and I will never think about taking off or landing without my hand or my CFIs hand on the throttle. They probably put too much trust into the plane. (Little Boeing vs Airbus joke here) they probably was flying it like an Airbus not a Boeing so they actually had to fly the plane not give a computer commands
@mizzyroro
@mizzyroro 2 жыл бұрын
As a 27 year flight simulator pilot I concur. Additionally I cannot fathom neither pilot particularly the F.O. not noticing that the spoilers deployed, keeping an eye on the airspeed and not noticing the throttles. Both pilots can't have their heads down. We rely too much on automation. Why press the TOGA button in a critical situation like this when you need power immediately? I would have shoved those levers forward. There should be a rule that on go around you firewall the throttles. No need to be thinking of saving engines when saving lives is the risk. Shocking.
@LighthouseCape
@LighthouseCape 2 жыл бұрын
It's purely a miracle that the evac took *7 MINUTES* and somehow, everybody onboard made it out even though the plane exploded shortly after that. Those idiots who tries to take their whole suitcase with them while in emergency has to be prosecuted for an attempted murder or something of other passengers...
@joelsterling1445
@joelsterling1445 2 жыл бұрын
I can see 90 seconds or 2 minutes but SEVEN MINUTES? WTF
@philidor9657
@philidor9657 9 ай бұрын
That’s not attempted murder but if something happened it could be some sort of negligent manslaughter, or some sort of negligence at least…as long as there was a safety brief that included evacuation rules. But yeah, seven minutes is fucking insane. That is genuinely such a long time like count out seven minutes then imagine being in a burning plane. Do people have no sense of self preservation? What is in your briefcase that is worth sticking around a PLANE ON FIRE for more than absolutely necessary?
@bbb11110
@bbb11110 7 ай бұрын
@@joelsterling1445 well...indians are chaotic, the worst people to respect any rules
@iqbalhossain303
@iqbalhossain303 4 ай бұрын
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@iqbalhossain303 4 ай бұрын
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@stockportcountyfaninlondon9535
@stockportcountyfaninlondon9535 2 жыл бұрын
What a legend Jasim Issa Mohammed Hassan is. Gave his life to those passengers. RIP
@stavroulamilona1653
@stavroulamilona1653 2 жыл бұрын
The overhead compartments should automatically lock during emergency landing, so that passengers wont be able to retrieve their belongings if the plane crashes.
@Dat-Mudkip
@Dat-Mudkip 2 жыл бұрын
Then they'll just spend more time trying to break the locks on the compartments. Stupidity knows no bounds!
@lbowsk
@lbowsk 2 жыл бұрын
At 10:45 - There is a mistake in the video's explanation. And this mistake is what caused the crash. It wasn't wind-shear, it wasn't the high temps, none of it. When the captain pushed the G/A switch he failed to manually increase thrust. Retired now and I forget why, but the AutoThrottle(s) on a B777 is temporarily disabled for a short period of time (aircraft below 35 feet as I recall) during the flare in a B777 on every landing. Every B777 pilot at my airline knows this. And every B777 pilot at my old airline was/is tested and checked on this. I suspect that most B777 pilots around the globe know this. They certainly do NOW after this accident. This guy, however, did not. It sounds to me as though he was used to the magic flying the jet, not the pilot. It certainly wouldn't be the first time that this happened. So, the accident must fall squarely on his shoulders. "Going around....TOGA....Flaps 20/CHECK THRUST...Positive Rate...Gear Up....Check Missed Approach Altitude". It's one slow continuous call with short pauses to allow and ensure that the NonFlyingPilot backs up every task. Think of it as a verbal DO-THIS-LIST and follow up checklist. "Check Thrust" emphasizes the power MUST be properly set for the Go-Around maneuver and in the case of the 777, acknowledges that the Auto Throttles MAY NOT add thrust at that moment). It also synchronizes the pilots at that moment. It's busy, and its compressed but it's not impossible and it is practiced and evaluated on every check ride. It's not difficult if the crew is well trained, proficient, prepared, and experienced. And that's what you pay for when you buy that expensive ticket. Not the blue bird, light wind easy legs. For when the crew needs to deal effectively while the feces is impinging the fan blades. It was his job to add thrust after he selected Go-Around. It's in the book. It was likely on his check ride. It was on mine. Other than that, pretty accurate video. His decision to go around, though late in my view - was reasonable. But his performance during the actual maneuver was unsat. Either he hand flew the maneuver or the auto-pilot flew it. When hit the GA button on the throttle the Flight Director commands NOSE UP and WINGS LEVEL. The plane pitched up without a corresponding increase in thrust. So, it settled back to the runway. His FO should have backed him up on the throttles and ensured that he pushed them up as well. That's the way it works at Brand X, and since its in the Boeing manual I suspect that's the way it works at every airline that flies the 777. I can see why they both lost their jobs. A guy died and a perfectly good 777 burnt up on the runway. That's some pretty lousy, yet effective advertising! After all, if they're firing the "Emirati" they've got to let the Aussie go as well, right? Hey, if you're bored....look up the stunt they pulled on Dec 28, 2021. Flight 231. There's a video on that one too. That will open your eyes WIDE. And the hellishly bad crosswind landing vid of one of their A380s as well. "Fly Emirates" ??? Not me ;)
@wolfgangwust5883
@wolfgangwust5883 2 жыл бұрын
Thank for your professional inside contribution to the story.
@rogerkearns8094
@rogerkearns8094 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, thank you for filling in the details. (Video maker seemed to be in a bit of a hurry to get away this time!)
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the extra information. I appreciate your time to comment :)
@lunayoshi
@lunayoshi 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Steve for the explanation and to Disaster Breakdown for being cool about it. It's nice seeing civility on KZbin. :)
@lbowsk
@lbowsk 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogerkearns8094 Hey, I don't know how to make videos, so I give this guy a lot of credit. Most of it is explained very well. When landing one of these things a LOT of stuff happens over a very short time span. And that's on a normal bluebird day. And during lousy visibility approaches, even more stuff happens. It's very difficult to explain to laymen without taking 30 mins. The float is what got him. That plane is capable of landing in an incredibly short distance. But it's GOT to be on the runway for this to happen. It has 12 HUGE wheel brakes and with Auto-Brakes is got amazing stopping capability even before you open the reversers. But if it's floating above the runway it's eating up real estate at a prodigious pace and barely decelerating. According to the vid, he spent 11 seconds in the flare? That's FOREVER at 125-135 knots and could easily eat up half of the runway. He should have gone around sooner, that can surely be debated. But, without adding trust when he hit TOGA all he did was change the Flight Director to display a pitch up to TOGA and wings level (or NAV). Not much else. Then he pitched the planes now up...how the hell he didn't feel that he had NO thrust astonishes me. That plane has huge engines and GOES RIGHT NOW when you add G/A thrust. The low-slung engines create a significant nose-up pitch when you add a lot of thrust. You hear it, you feel it. I cannot understand how they missed that part. I commented because oftentimes these reenactments miss an essential detail and then John Q Public goes off in the comments spewing uninformed BS. Then the next guy jumps in and pretty soon everyone thinks they're Dan Gryder or Johnny NTSB. They're usually wrong. Flying a 172 does not qualify you to fly an airliner, particularly one with a complicated FMS. Could you hold it straight and level? Sure. But there's often a lot going on that your average Private Pilot does not understand or appreciate. I am not trying to belittle, just to explain. Bored in a hotel while on an overnight someplace boring. Peace out.
@mollz6796
@mollz6796 2 жыл бұрын
Those passengers taking their belonging 🤬🤬 I feel sorry for the family of the fire fighter that passed away. Imagine such a serious crash and everyone surviving and the fire fighter is the one who loses his life...very sad. Another excellent video 👏 Enjoy your well deserved week off 💕
@sjdrifter72
@sjdrifter72 2 жыл бұрын
This video feels bittersweet. I'm really going to miss hearing the names of several Patreon supporters during the thank you's most notably WherearemyCheetos, which is my favourite.
@stevenmacdonald9619
@stevenmacdonald9619 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos for not only having to name the city Thiruvananthapuram, but for absolutely nailing it 👍 It is so sad that life was lost, even when luck had been on people's sides until then.
@arandomthing2489
@arandomthing2489 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I didn’t know that Emirates even had a hull loss of a plane. This is going to be a great video, thanks for all your hard work ❤️
@kommandantgalileo
@kommandantgalileo 2 жыл бұрын
it's hull loss
@arandomthing2489
@arandomthing2489 2 жыл бұрын
@@kommandantgalileo thanks lol
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@arandomthing2489
@arandomthing2489 2 жыл бұрын
@@DisasterBreakdown no problem :)
@kommandantgalileo
@kommandantgalileo 2 жыл бұрын
@@arandomthing2489 lol
@joecrammond6221
@joecrammond6221 2 жыл бұрын
if i was told to evacuate somewhere, I wouldn't hesitate to leave my belongings, try and help family or friends who need help yes but not my belongings
@PyroBun_2844
@PyroBun_2844 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting that in Emirates 36 years they only lost 1 plane. Great video as always!
@chrisjoe3629
@chrisjoe3629 2 жыл бұрын
Cathay lost 0 in 76 yrs..even had a miracle landing without engines like Sully in 2010
@LeolaGlamour
@LeolaGlamour 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjoe3629 wow I didn’t know that about Cathay will put them on my safe list.
@jamesadcock5235
@jamesadcock5235 4 ай бұрын
Qantas 103 years no crashes
@kommandantgalileo
@kommandantgalileo 2 жыл бұрын
may that firefighter rest in peace
@madhaaaav
@madhaaaav 2 жыл бұрын
my mother was on this plane - we were in india and she was supposed to leave a week before this flight, but i wanted her to stay so we could spend some more time together which could've been the worst decision of my life everyday i think about the firefighter..
@SOLDOZER
@SOLDOZER 2 жыл бұрын
You mom was probably one of those who clogged the aisle trying to get her bags...
@madhaaaav
@madhaaaav 2 жыл бұрын
@@SOLDOZER no man she was the one telling me about the people who were 😂
@MrBsbotto
@MrBsbotto 2 жыл бұрын
@@SOLDOZER Hey, that's a pretty classy comment there, Donkey! Ever thought of going into bereavement counseling as a profession?
@apollodash5912
@apollodash5912 2 жыл бұрын
Why Im a huge advocate of hand flying. I encourage my students to hand fly as much as possible and teach them to disconnect the A/T when they turn off the AP. Automation reliance and complacency is such a huge problem in the industry. Why heavies are crashing on clear sunny days. Thankfully in the US the feds have actually backpedaled and are finally encouraging hand flying again.
@dobj_ericb
@dobj_ericb 2 жыл бұрын
Unrelated matter, but congrats to you about the video you posted on your personal channel! Hopefully this community continues to fully support you because I definitely do. I’ll leave the details out so people can head over to your channel and figure out for themselves :)
@DisasterBreakdown
@DisasterBreakdown 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TXNole10
@TXNole10 2 жыл бұрын
What’s his personal channel, please?
@dobj_ericb
@dobj_ericb 2 жыл бұрын
@@TXNole10 I’d say the name but that would give it away! Id go to Disaster Breakdowns page and look at the featured channel :)
@azuill1126
@azuill1126 9 ай бұрын
No matter where you are, at school, work, any form of public transport, a plane etc. You are are told in EVERY fire drill to LEAVE your belongings. That firefighter who died may have been further away from the explosion when it happened had all the passengers already been evacuated. During an emergency like that, it isnt just your own life youre putting at risk, its everyone else's
@skylineXpert
@skylineXpert 2 жыл бұрын
If it cannot fit in your pocket then forget it. Passport, phone and wallet is most important. Because your laptop is insured and most have a copy online of the files.
@TransistorBased
@TransistorBased 2 жыл бұрын
Southwest is another one where fatalities are sort of weird. The first incident where anyone was killed was when they overran a runway and ended up crushing a few cars even though everyone on the plane was fine. Then the second was with the uncontained engine failure when a passenger was killed by the opening in the fuselage. One could argue the third incident almost doesn't count since there was a plane that hit someone running around on the airfield and the pilots just barely saw him and didn't have any time to react. So they've never had a physical accident that resulted in the death of a passenger, it's just been a few unfortunate incidents.
@gamma_dablam
@gamma_dablam 2 жыл бұрын
Uncontained engine failure counts imo
@GavinSmith1993
@GavinSmith1993 2 жыл бұрын
I still come here just for the wheresmycheetos bit. Thanks for reading.
@hasanabdulrahim73
@hasanabdulrahim73 2 жыл бұрын
As an Indian myself, I can see why the passengers would go for retrieving their bags instead of evacuating. Safety is never considered a priority in our lives as a whole.
@Dat-Mudkip
@Dat-Mudkip 2 жыл бұрын
They way they ride trains says a lot on its own!
@RenatoLaporte
@RenatoLaporte 2 жыл бұрын
Has nothing to do with nationality, we’ve seen similar events in other countries. Sadly stupid people is a global pandemic.
@skunkrat01
@skunkrat01 2 жыл бұрын
Reading that just made me feel very sad. I'm not sure what growing up like that would feel like. Thank you for explaining that though, it does help me understand. That would never have occurred to me, so yeah, good job. Please don't take offence to this, but given your name and nationality I hope you are staying safe. I hope you understand what I mean here, I may be way off base with my assumptions, and I'm really sorry if I am, but I hope you are safe and happy.
@KoffinKat
@KoffinKat Жыл бұрын
@@RenatoLaporte That's not entirely true. There really are countries where a human life isn't percieved as valuable (India is definitely one of those countries, and I want to say this is the general mentality in predominantly muslim countries, but I might be mistaken on this one). They just have different priorities than we (westerners) have, like the original commenter said.
@marcviej.5635
@marcviej.5635 5 ай бұрын
​@@RenatoLaporteit has everything to do with indians
@Simon_de_Cornouailles
@Simon_de_Cornouailles 2 жыл бұрын
The captain was a 34-year-old UAE national and wasn't named but Emirates released the name of the Australian first officer?
@aroopghosh1381
@aroopghosh1381 2 жыл бұрын
Both lost their jobs sadly
@lbowsk
@lbowsk 2 жыл бұрын
@@aroopghosh1381 Sadly? The Captain caused the crash! Hardly a guy I'd want driving my airplane.
@jorldan5440
@jorldan5440 2 жыл бұрын
@@aroopghosh1381 they both work for different airlines now
@Robocopnik
@Robocopnik 2 жыл бұрын
@@aroopghosh1381 "sadly"
@cheapgaming3252
@cheapgaming3252 2 жыл бұрын
@@lbowsk Can i know the source where they got fired?
@Alin4005
@Alin4005 Жыл бұрын
A criticism on just Arab pilots. As someone who has observed a lot of Arab folks, that they always have an air of superiroity or know how which means they are not good when it comes to taking feedback. It's just a cultural thing
@robertmcghintheorca49
@robertmcghintheorca49 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, at one point, Emirates Airlines operated every single variant of the Boeing B777, the -200, the -200/ER, the -200/F, the -200/LR, the -300 and of course, the -300/ER. Emirates are the only airline to have operated every single B777 variant concurrently.
@dantheman8749
@dantheman8749 2 жыл бұрын
I will never understand the passengers getting their luggage while they are pretty much trapping themselves in a burning metal tube where they are standing literally just above a tank of highly explosive fuel. You don’t even take really anything if much value on your hand luggage. Maybe a laptop, some toiletries and a few bits you got in the duty free shop. Is it really worth risking yours and other peoples lives to save such unimportant things?
@jacobdrummond3013
@jacobdrummond3013 2 жыл бұрын
I know we're not supposed to generalise these days, but if we're really being honest, it all boils down to Indian culture. Hindus for example believe that death is preordained, so why rush? Doesn't help the poor firefighter of course, but nvm - they know best.
@nyxqueenofshadows
@nyxqueenofshadows 2 жыл бұрын
great video as always! loved the breakdown (heh) of the crucial seconds at the end of the flight, it was really easy to follow. enjoy your week off!
@afreightdogslife
@afreightdogslife 2 жыл бұрын
Typical Emirate behavior: protect the useless Emirate captain and make public the other pilot's name. These guys were blowing bubbles instead of flying the aircraft, plain, and simple.
@vanquishable7844
@vanquishable7844 2 жыл бұрын
He was likely assassinated for the embarrassment caused to the country and the economic loss they would have suffered. If they released the name it would concern people.
@aroopghosh1381
@aroopghosh1381 2 жыл бұрын
The captain is now flying for another middle east airline. The first officer is with an Australian company.
@nsoanne7104
@nsoanne7104 2 жыл бұрын
That's one negative aspect about them they always protect themselves even if they are wrong it's all about them any other person kaliwaleh
@GirlyEnglishGamer
@GirlyEnglishGamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@aroopghosh1381 how do you know?
@zayedalshamsi7321
@zayedalshamsi7321 2 жыл бұрын
@@vanquishable7844 do you think we live in North Korea?
@uzaiyaro
@uzaiyaro 2 жыл бұрын
For those interested, here’s a video of a go around for wind shear and subsequent escape manoeuvre, which includes firewalling the engines, which is rare because you don’t often use max power. You can also hear hail hitting the plane during the go around. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJ7XoKSpm6isjtE
@CoastalAutoReactionCAR
@CoastalAutoReactionCAR 2 жыл бұрын
Ok bud this is some next level content! Keep it Up! WELL DONE!!
@nicolar2125
@nicolar2125 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see your take on the new Netflix Boeing documentary. I had it in my head that it was your channel that taught us about MCAS and whatnot. Thank you
@Annimaxdh
@Annimaxdh 8 ай бұрын
Great video man! I like how didactic you are with your descriptions and explanations, that makes your videos understandable from kids to elderly people.
@moosifer3321
@moosifer3321 2 жыл бұрын
Really good presentation of an unusual accident - if you fly PLEASE listen to the safety briefing, and, DON`T worry about those `precious` belongings in the overhead - these 300 were COLLECTIVELY responsible for the DEATH of a man that didn`t deserve his fate. Everybody aboard survived, how many I phones, Laptops and Tablets caused that preventable loss of life? Shame on you!
@vanquishable7844
@vanquishable7844 2 жыл бұрын
HOW DARE YOU ASSUME!!! SHAME ON YOU
@LucyKosaki
@LucyKosaki 2 жыл бұрын
Why were they responsible? Did the firefighter die while evacuating passengers? To me it sounded like he died while fighting the flames after evacuation was already done.
@irisernst5240
@irisernst5240 Жыл бұрын
I was in the plane that was supposed to land right after this one. I saw the plane from the air as we circled around because we were unable to land. Was a scary thing to see.
@exotafy6232
@exotafy6232 2 жыл бұрын
I’m Emirati but i didn’t know that the captain was also because no one mentioned that, thank you so much for making an amazing videos ♥️
@omaralmarri2151
@omaralmarri2151 2 жыл бұрын
هذا خراط ، حقود علي الامارات ، صدقت كلامه . شفت بدايه الفيديو كيف تهجم علي طيران الامارات وعلي الكبتن ، نعم صار خطاء لكن هذا هول في الموضوع وكان طيران الامارات دوم عنده حوادث ، هذا شكله طيار طاردينه من الخدمه في طيران الامارات بسبب خطا وحقد علي الشركه والامارات بشكل عام
@zayedalshamsi7321
@zayedalshamsi7321 2 жыл бұрын
@@omaralmarri2151 كلامه صدق ههههههههه اتذكرها السالفة
@sharoncassell5273
@sharoncassell5273 11 ай бұрын
My Dad was a firefighter but didn't discuss the job much. Thank you for this intricate video.
@LDons22
@LDons22 2 жыл бұрын
The pilots has been flee for 15 years, yet only logged under 7500 flight hours. That means
@hotel_arcadia
@hotel_arcadia Жыл бұрын
It's possible they might've taken an extended break
@alexanderwoods3951
@alexanderwoods3951 2 жыл бұрын
One Emirates A340 almost crashed on takeoff from Australia in 2009
@ImperialDiecast
@ImperialDiecast 2 жыл бұрын
another emirates struggled to get airborne when taking off from dubai
@Volodimar
@Volodimar 2 жыл бұрын
Near-collision at 14.01.22 between 2 Emirates flights.
@ibluap
@ibluap 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Chloe. Improving every video on!
@magic_claw
@magic_claw 2 жыл бұрын
I realize they always say to leave your belongings behind, but I have heard horror stories of folks being stuck in some places without identifying documents, passports etc. and having a hell of a time. A good compromise would be to instruct all passengers to carry documents on their person at all times as part of the safety instruction.
@takers786
@takers786 2 жыл бұрын
Typical Emiratis, named the foreigner but didn’t name their own
@isabel152
@isabel152 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I love all your videos
@sadiqjohnny77
@sadiqjohnny77 20 күн бұрын
As a former airline captain, and an instructor and check pilot on B 707/720s, DC 10, and B747, and was also a Chief Pilot on DC 10 and B747. All the pilots that I trained were told to always do a go around MANUALLY. Push the throttles forward, raise the nose 10 degrees initially, and call for go-around flaps. The aircraft will DEFINITELY GO!. Fiddling with automatics so close to the ground is foolish and dangerous.
@somedudethatripsplanetinha4221
@somedudethatripsplanetinha4221 2 жыл бұрын
The way you just casually pronounced Thiruvananthapuram-
@thetwitchfurry5548
@thetwitchfurry5548 2 жыл бұрын
I was on an Emirates 777-300er flight that took off from Dubai just before this crash, I remember watching it on the news during the flight
@patriciamariemitchel
@patriciamariemitchel 2 жыл бұрын
Seven minutes is too long for an evacuation, but the fault falls to the Captain for attempting a go-around with no thrust. I might not want to leave my laptop behind to get burned up in a plane on fire because you don't know how to land. 🤬
@rrknl5187
@rrknl5187 2 жыл бұрын
So you'd be ok with a dozen other passengers behind you being burned to death because you just can't leave your precious laptop behind? Really?
@patriciamariemitchel
@patriciamariemitchel 2 жыл бұрын
@@rrknl5187, no. You can go around me, I don't take up that much room. Nobody got burned up. Sheesh.
@dalydegagne1839
@dalydegagne1839 2 жыл бұрын
@@patriciamariemitchel Your answer is unbelievable - and not in a good way. I hope you were just being sarcastic. Otherwise....
@patriciamariemitchel
@patriciamariemitchel 2 жыл бұрын
@@dalydegagne1839, how so? Why should the passengers, the paying passengers, be shamed for something the pilot did wrong? It took them 7 minutes. They all got out with their stuff, the stuff they paid to have transported with them in their paid for seats. Now you're going to shame them like little children who don't know how to walk across a street? I don't think so. If you want to fly us around you have to show more respect than that. 😵‍💫
@TheAviationGuyID
@TheAviationGuyID 2 жыл бұрын
@@patriciamariemitchel ok which is more important? peoples lives or stupid luggage
@benjaminramsey9016
@benjaminramsey9016 2 жыл бұрын
props to you for pronouncing Thiruvananthapuram!
@ChelleC33
@ChelleC33 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you… I never quite understood what happened here from reading AVHerald, but I can visualise it, now.
@sharoncassell5273
@sharoncassell5273 11 ай бұрын
Such a basic mistake but seems to happen more than you think in go around. I think since it's such a sudden transition from landing mode. Startle effect. Pilots forget steps like changing configuration of flaps & throttle on going around. When we flew Cessnas touch n' Goes & go around seemed so simple but for some reason in jets it seems to be more complicated and error some. Tailwinds help to ruin your perfectly planned landing execution. Keep up the good work alert pilots.
@pyrettablaze9994
@pyrettablaze9994 Жыл бұрын
I flew on Emirates a few times, both times from Dubai to Europe, both trips horrendous. The plane was old and tired and you felt it.
@charcharbinks1414
@charcharbinks1414 2 жыл бұрын
I will miss videos ending with, where are my cheetos.
@BloodSteyn
@BloodSteyn 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, having flown Emirates for almost 3 years into Saudi, I can say that I have seen the behaviour of Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi passengers first hand. The plane would touch down, and while taxiing, they would already get up and start grabbing their bags and start crowding the isles. On numerous occasions when the brakes were applied they would "Domino" and fall down. So I can understand that they would attempt to grab their stuff instead of getting TF off the plane in an emergency. For some of those guys, those are likely their only worldly possessions and they will be working like slaves, for slave wages in the Arab countries. I can understand their reluctance to evacuate without their stuff, as that is all they have.
@dalydegagne1839
@dalydegagne1839 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, prosperous white (and other) pax in North America are frequently guilty of delaying emergency exit times while they get their carry-on bags from the overhead bins. This self-centred bad behaviour is all too common.
@basicmaths3443
@basicmaths3443 2 жыл бұрын
I am an Indian and you are absolutely correct. They dont even care about the seat belt. Just after touchdown everyone stands like the movie is over and they dont want to get stuck in queue or traffic. Also, they travel with more than one bag. How these airlines allow them that I cannot understand. I hardly find place to keep my one laptop bag. Please tell your airline to not allow more than one bag per passenger.
@BloodSteyn
@BloodSteyn 2 жыл бұрын
​@@basicmaths3443 I was in Dubai Airport once where the flight was delayed. Every single time the lady touched the microphone to instruct everyone that the plane will be boarded by Zones, as on the ticket, every single Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi would jump up and run for the gate. The plane wasn't even there yet. Must have been a language barrier issue. Eventually she called the cops on them and they were all arrested and taken away. It was crazy.
@HJW3
@HJW3 Жыл бұрын
Grabbing bags during an evacuation post-crash is idiocy. What is in the bags that's worth your life?
@marcviej.5635
@marcviej.5635 5 ай бұрын
curry
@Velocity8842
@Velocity8842 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy this dude called it the triple 7 instead of the seven seven seven or this video would be hell
@MsMaxine306
@MsMaxine306 Жыл бұрын
Wait a minute, the captain was only 34yrs old and been with the airline for 15yrs?!!
@LouiseAus10
@LouiseAus10 4 ай бұрын
Entitled Emirati goes straight from flight school to flying these beasts, then fast tracked to captain.
@KristenDETW
@KristenDETW 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video!
@treyn8070
@treyn8070 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! That is amazing that everyone on board lived. RIP to the fire fighter that gave his own life to save so many. It was the captains fault but it was an honest mistake so I'm not going to sit here and dog on him all day. We learned from it and that made it an even safer way of efficient travel.🛫 ✈ 🛬 🛫 ✈ 🛬
@resolutzen714
@resolutzen714 2 жыл бұрын
They should have a system that locks all overhead compartments during an emergency. To prevent people from trying to retrieve their belongings.
@DanWhe
@DanWhe 2 жыл бұрын
That would add weight and additional programming and complexity, an unnecessary cost for something that is statistically never required.
@Marcus-cc72
@Marcus-cc72 2 жыл бұрын
People would still stop and try to get it open. It’s an awareness problem not a mechanical one sadly.
@photobobo
@photobobo Жыл бұрын
So, piloting an aircraft is not like riding a camel?
@mauricedavis2160
@mauricedavis2160 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always Mate!!!🙏👍✈️😷
@TribusMontibus
@TribusMontibus 2 жыл бұрын
At 8:40 you are talking about a 12-knot increase in airspeed, while showing a decreasing airspeed. That's a bit confusing.
@omaralmarri2151
@omaralmarri2151 2 жыл бұрын
He is lying that’s way
@annnee6818
@annnee6818 2 жыл бұрын
If your plane is on fire and someone starts fiddling with the overhead bin to get their luggage... PUNCH their lights out
@pete129ify
@pete129ify 2 жыл бұрын
i am curious as to why it isn't procedure to deploy the speed brakes during a "float" as this would reduce lift on the wings and increase drag presumably forcing the aircraft to touch down?
@Harpocrates
@Harpocrates 2 жыл бұрын
I think the plane would come down too fast, and the risk of a crash landing would be too high.
@randomrexy2135
@randomrexy2135 2 жыл бұрын
could be that it can suddely the drop of attitude can damage the under carrage
@pete129ify
@pete129ify 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomrexy2135 ahh i see.. i was thinking of deploying the speed brakes only in the course of events of this accident, however for general aviation where "floats" are not uncommon, a procedure of deploying the speed brakes would be far riskier than selecting a go around manoeuvre. thank you
@JuanCarlosCoreaBarrios
@JuanCarlosCoreaBarrios 2 жыл бұрын
There is a switch in the landing gear that prevents the speed brakes from deploying unless there is weight on the wheels, meaning airplane on the ground.
@JohnDoeWasntTaken
@JohnDoeWasntTaken 2 жыл бұрын
The speedbrakes usually don't deploy until the wheels touch down, you can still deploy them manually in the air but float is not a problem that is solved with drag (unless you are going way too fast, in which case you should go around). In such a situation you solve the problem by easing backwards pressure (or applying forward pressure) off the yoke to get the nose down and get rid of altitude, hard landings are actually safe landings in the aviation world since they get the wheels on the ground ASAP. So fear of a hard landing just makes float worse since the safest solution to the problem is by getting the wheels on the ground as fast as possible within reason.
@steve3291
@steve3291 2 жыл бұрын
BA2276 at Las Vegas was the same. You can see photographs of the passengers walking away with their bags whilst the aircraft was burning 🤦‍♂ I am a Manchester lad and I remember British Airtours 28M - I'm getting off the plane and that's it! Stuff my toiletries.
@LycanWitch
@LycanWitch 7 ай бұрын
there really needs to be locks on the carryon luggage storage.. it's annoying enough when midflight a passenger gets up to retrieve their carryon to dig crap out of it, often annoying or bumping the passengers around them... and then especially these emergency situations when you hear about people retrieving luggage.. if it's just the norm and passengers know the luggage compartments are locked during a flight and are still locked during an emergency, would be so much better for other passengers.. less annoyance and less instances of morons blocking the emergency escape of passengers. Also prob to the chagrin of flight attendants.. when the plane lands, the seatbelt light is still on, as the plane is still taxiing to the terminal, those moronic passengers who get up and begin opening the overhead bins to grab their bags.. so a flight attendant controlled locking system would be great to prevent all these negative scenarios..
@9LimaAlpha7
@9LimaAlpha7 7 ай бұрын
absolutely spot on madam fox, ur recommendations should be enforced straight away
@flyer116
@flyer116 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your week off :D Thanks for the great video!
@Your_Local_Nerd
@Your_Local_Nerd 7 күн бұрын
what do you use to animate these videos?
@dodoubleg2356
@dodoubleg2356 2 жыл бұрын
So the ground temp was 155 degrees Fahrenheit (for us American's). WOW 🥺😳?!? I knew it was hot in the desert but DAMN!!!
@antonyhilton
@antonyhilton 4 ай бұрын
Many on that plane were expat workers working in Dubai, for them passport is worth more than life cause their visas are on their passport, if they lose their passport they could also lose their visa and have to return home jobless. A jobless pravasi is treated by their family as a useless person. So most of them sadly rather lose their life rather than lose their documents and jobs, hence they started taking out they bags containing their documents and work laptops. I worked in Dubai and I know how integral our passport is.
@WingingItCrypto
@WingingItCrypto 2 жыл бұрын
There's no way you released this video and I happen to be flying to Dubai with Emirates next week 😅
@mustafa-pv9tl
@mustafa-pv9tl 2 жыл бұрын
Emirates is mostly safe. U alive?
@kcsnew
@kcsnew 2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained about this crash
@atgordon1948
@atgordon1948 2 жыл бұрын
Good intro ... findings? causes? recommendations? You stopped too soon.
@tdestroyer1882
@tdestroyer1882 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely video!
@sleepy4325
@sleepy4325 2 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to the Patreon name "Ground Beef Warning System"
@gulumamu2472
@gulumamu2472 2 жыл бұрын
hi disaster breakdown !question is flying an aircraft is it easy peasy job or very dificult task?secondly can u inquire about a gulfair flight which was bound for karachi to abudhabi but crashed in jebel ali mena area in september 1983 a first class passenger never borded on this why there is no name of him if photos were not available back then?
@mookie2637
@mookie2637 Жыл бұрын
Emirates have had a number of very serious incidents in recent years, which clearly have something to do with their parrot-fashion pilot training regime. To characterise them as "one of the best airlines in the world" feels a little off to me.
@apexgt4
@apexgt4 2 жыл бұрын
2:16 how many takes did that take to record 😆
@gamma_dablam
@gamma_dablam 2 жыл бұрын
It's still incorrect. Sincerely, An Indian person who themselves struggles to pronounce it
@dh510
@dh510 2 жыл бұрын
But why didn't the TOGA-switch set the thrust of the engines to full power?
@MrSchwabentier
@MrSchwabentier 2 жыл бұрын
Because the aircraft had already touched down, and the TO/GA automatic gets deactivated then. Thats how it is designed. But the pilots apparently didn't know or forgot about that.
@HopeYukizmizu
@HopeYukizmizu 2 жыл бұрын
I can assure you, if a plane im in crash lands and things are on fire, if some moron is trying to get a bag and blocking me, they would be on the floor and im stepping over them and their bag
@hayleyxyz
@hayleyxyz 2 жыл бұрын
So why didn't TOGA increase thrust? Is it because the wheels had touched the ground? I always thought TOGA can be initiated anytime before reversers are deployed
@MrSchwabentier
@MrSchwabentier 2 жыл бұрын
Thats what the pilots thought too. But thats not how it works. If the landing gear untilts for a certain amount of time (wheels on the ground) TO/GA is no longer operable. SO this was either pilots mistake or poor training by Emirates
@mariancounsellor
@mariancounsellor 2 жыл бұрын
There wasn’t enough power and everything that needed to operate at certain times couldn’t. It would be like a BMX bike going down a hill at full speed and then the rider trying to brake and reverse.. impossible! They left it too late.
@TheDudeheimer
@TheDudeheimer 2 жыл бұрын
2:15 pretty sure that took 218 takes :D
@amberrodriguez851
@amberrodriguez851 2 жыл бұрын
I was scared of landing before this… but now? 😂 I don’t think I’m ever going to fly again! Thanks for the upload! I love these videos! They’re so intriguing!
@marty9085
@marty9085 2 жыл бұрын
plane crashes are rare now, you’ll be fine
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry! You're MUCH more likely to die driving somewhere! And...you're welcome! 😁👍
@jodysin7
@jodysin7 2 жыл бұрын
Keep your most important documents on your person and not in your carry on.
@lorenzmaywald506
@lorenzmaywald506 2 жыл бұрын
why didn't the auto throttle give more power to the engines in the TOGA-mode though?
@refutonefandus
@refutonefandus 2 жыл бұрын
The aircraft had pitched up too far. That caused the autothrottle to disengage to prevent a stall. Too fast of a climb at too low of a speed = stall and drop.
@MrSchwabentier
@MrSchwabentier 2 жыл бұрын
@@refutonefandus sorry, but thats incorrect. The aircraft never pitched up more than 10degrees during the attempted go around, so well within limits. Problem simply was that the TOGA mode becomes inoperable once the aircraft touched down. So in this case the pilots would have to apply thrust manually.
@Monkofthecaribbean
@Monkofthecaribbean 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrSchwabentier ^correct
@foxtrot_delta3042
@foxtrot_delta3042 2 жыл бұрын
Emirates almost had a high fatality accident a few months back. Screw up by the aircrew and crazy that it was allowed to continue flying all the way to the US after potential damage to tires and flaps.
@LeolaGlamour
@LeolaGlamour 2 жыл бұрын
Um 😐 so you’re saying 1 incidents out of the 100s of flights they do a day equals should never fly to the us?! Are you crazy?
@DanWhe
@DanWhe 2 жыл бұрын
Redacted UAE name, I suspect a member of one of the royal families, and the redaction is to protect that family.
@fra93ilgrande
@fra93ilgrande 4 ай бұрын
Passengers in this flight be like: “another happy landing” 😂 👌
@VickersV
@VickersV 2 жыл бұрын
Rip to the firefighter, god bless. Ground affect, like what do you do, they were brilliant that no one die, problem got a weather bomb and a tail wind as well, s**t. Thank you for the point of discussion, brilliant.
@utareangara5529
@utareangara5529 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone i know talked up about it so much. When i flew i was quite disappointed. TBH Singapore is a MUCH better airline than Emirates. I only took the flight because i was traveling to Paris with mum to meet up with my sister. Never to i want to fly into Dubai again, the airport hotel was so far away -_-
@gglovato
@gglovato 2 жыл бұрын
¿And what happened afterward?, feels like the video ended incomplete, what did the investigation found?
@llCoupDEtatll
@llCoupDEtatll 2 жыл бұрын
Dude really thought it was smart to do a go around from 7 feet above the runway.
@scottcol23
@scottcol23 2 жыл бұрын
Happens all the time actually. Ive had go arounds after a hop and then float. happens a lot in cross wind landings too.
@TribusMontibus
@TribusMontibus 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the go around was the good decision. Personally I am baffled how he could have missed the fact that engine power was not increasing. I have flown over 18000 hours in aircraft ranging from fabric covered bi-planes to fast jets. I cannot imagine a go around without the corresponding 'feel' of power increase. The inertia of just raising the pitch, with idle thrust, is not a substitute.
@TribusMontibus
@TribusMontibus 2 жыл бұрын
btw, a successful go around can be made regardless of height above the runway and may very well involve runway touchdown, during the go around maneuver.
@danielabackstrom
@danielabackstrom 2 жыл бұрын
You can do a go around at any time until you have deployed thrust reversers
@davesmith5656
@davesmith5656 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see how you get an increase in air speed when the wind shifts from a tail wind to a head wind.
@JuanCarlosCoreaBarrios
@JuanCarlosCoreaBarrios 2 жыл бұрын
The aircraft instruments measure airspeed as the speed relative to the surrounding air, so if you have a head wind you add that speed to the airplane's own. Flying against a headwind subtracts from your groundspeed, which is usually not important in the takeoff and landing phase.
@iamdotcomm
@iamdotcomm 2 жыл бұрын
So was the pilot/FO at fault? Emirates? Boeing?
@MrSchwabentier
@MrSchwabentier 2 жыл бұрын
Pilots fault. Partly Emirates, pointed at poor training.
@PelenTan
@PelenTan 2 жыл бұрын
WTF???? You didn't tell us what caused it. It sounds pretty straight forward in the pilots didn't notice the engines not spooling up. But what else contributed?
@landychen9968
@landychen9968 2 жыл бұрын
Great job 😍
@blinard1
@blinard1 2 жыл бұрын
Did they reuse the fuselage?
@danielabackstrom
@danielabackstrom 2 жыл бұрын
Since it burned, no
@blinard1
@blinard1 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielabackstromif you google sarcasm it will explain everything
@tusieramiaparasiempre9246
@tusieramiaparasiempre9246 2 жыл бұрын
I'm about to travel.oh man my paranoia struck lol
@ItsMadRiv
@ItsMadRiv 2 жыл бұрын
It will make the flight more interesting
@marcg210
@marcg210 2 жыл бұрын
in 2006 I took a flight through Seoul from LA on Korean Air. That week I watched a video on the Korean Air plane that the Soviets show down...😬 Of course there was no Soviet Union at the time but watching the map skirt around China was rough. 😅
@Burzilman
@Burzilman 2 жыл бұрын
So what were the investigation findings? Whether the plane or the pilots or a combination of both?
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