r/Hmmm | FRESH FRUITS

[@animeguru6296]

"i've had a fever and still feel a bit down so don't be surprised if i'm different than usual" *proseeds to speak like a waterfall*

[@cheyennearnett8534]

Waterfalls speak?! Cooool!

[@robertclark9152]

@@cheyennearnett8534 so thats where my dad went

[@Tonya...]

In my whole life I have never seen and heard anyone use this term

[@SillyWilly-jj1zx]

10:59 everybody gangsta till the man behind the slaughter leads five kids into tha bac

[@altunedin2777]

Petition to have Jack play the Emkay intro music on his sax

[@andrewwojcik8098]

He already does

[@michaelvaughn9999]

Im so sorry but i had to

[@kitesandthings5849]

@@michaelvaughn9999 no no didn't

[@Sillylittlefishman]

agreed

[@iatedishwashingdetergent]

​@@michaelvaughn9999 what is wrong with you

[@ratkingwastaken]

Fun fact: The rabbit at 10:59 is actually a character from FNAF. He was in the side missions for the game FNAF VR, and his name is GlitchTrap. I don’t know where that image came from, but my best guess is that it’s photoshopped

[@calypso8963]

I hope to goodness it’s photoshopped or I may never sleep soundly again

[@thatoneguydjdoodles]

That glitchtrap isn't real. If you look at the bow long enough, it has uneven shading than the rest of the photo; it's too focused. And I've seen it before: it's an artist who makes digital copies of the fursuits and animatronics. It's ok dudes

[@ellie-the-seagull]

Easter bunny costumes are very very creepy. Ever see a homemade one?

[@generallyannoyed8407]

Why did they do this....

[@generallyannoyed8407]

At least we know he's a furry.

[@rumekfuria6037]

11:29 you are forgetting the second part of the saying "Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back" And considering this is catfood he got himself into... Do what you must, for he has already won

[@Min-tea]

I think r/hmmmm is slowly turning in to cursed images.

[@notifynothing838]

i think we have the same logo

[@want-diversecontent3887]

@@notifynothing838 You have different letters

[@gotsomham]

Always has been

[@RoninOwin1738]

“I hate to be the BEAR-er of bad news” *PERSONA 4 FLASHBACKS*

[@herrforehead]

Give me your wisdom Conway from which sports

[@JellyApocalypse]

Glad I’m not the only one having flashbacks. Makes me feel a lot better.

[@meowkittymeowmeow2786]

*DANGANRONPA FLASHBACKS*

[@happytachanka4927]

Puns for days

[@byakko2121]

Are you finding the teddie puns unbearable?

[@DamonFyrian]

"Next is making cocaine powder out of actual Coca-Cola." Does someone wanna tell Jack, or should I?

[@n_d_cisive]

Tell meminseted

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

@@n_d_cisive there used to be actual cocaine in Coca Cola. Hence the name...

[@micro11.]

*prepares glock* yes of course you should!

[@Sarah_Catt]

Mandy, 𝙏𝙝𝙖𝙩𝙨-.....𝙏𝙝𝙖𝙩𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙟𝙤𝙠𝙚.....

[@Spaced_essence]

*PREPARES RPG* you sure buddy

[@TheMightyMime]

"People dont want to have crow feet" Speak for yourself and give me 2 pairs of them

[@shgds]

I cant give you crow's feet but I have something similar

[@jesuschristbutafab9923]

fr and add some crow wings while your at it, maybe a feather tail if we're feeling adventurous

[@jsports3738]

6:53 That elevator is in downtown San Diego. I’ve been in the exact same elevator once and it is *PAIN*

[@kidsurprise]

“Mexican beer virus,” or as my father says the, “Budweiser Virus.”

[@tazergraphics]

Or the Coor Light virus

[@McBehrer]

Backstreet Boys Reunion Tour

[@bubbliibiotch931]

McBehrer ?

[@thewellkownp.i.g.9019]

@Kiss Kitty Wu Flu

[@UltimateChampion164]

@@McBehrer good to see a fellow Grumps fan

[@Fishcrab]

1:38 in fake Russian accent "I can explain the world to you all that I need is chair"

[@GK-ym1nq]

Trust me. I'm an engineer!

[@aturtlenearyou]

I have built many building, well some of them have failed

[@funkyytanims5976]

Karlsomething48 a engineer from tf2?

[@aturtlenearyou]

glitch error and Stuff search up “Im an engineer” Heres the link actually kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKGbmamvn7-KftU

[@Gemdromeda]

10:58 The new fnaf game looks nice, the graphics are so realistic

[@chenn2749]

They really upped up the graphics, they even got kids in it too!

[@matameporfaolivares2370]

Im running out of comment ideas and you are right

[@engineergaming4706]

Security breach looking good

[@lisa101561]

I know lile who looked at that rabbit suit and said "yeah this is child friendly"

[@micro11.]

and they added vr!and you dont even NEED the vr!and you will not live!

[@BIGSHOT__]

10:58 Oh God Here We Go Again Glitchtrap Escaped Into The Real World

[@crazy4aday]

shhhhhh......

[@zubiie]

well shit.

[@potatoman5846]

all ways has been

[@Magento_Magnea]

aw shite

[@lazony_4540]

It scared me when I saw the eyes in the zoom

[@lurkkilukki7877]

5:27 who else tried this but realised you have only 5 fingers

[@fragileintentions3487]

I had to go back twice to make sure they actually had six fingers

[@shgds]

You've found me

[@brandyhoward9462]

Yes

[@simpli_A]

Me...

[@Rexofthe501st]

I think my brain just made the Windows error noise when I did it then looked back at the picture and became even more like "Huh?" I'm not awake yet.

[@waterbottle2167]

Jack: *gets sick* Also Jack: I’m fine, this is fine

[@neptuneWX]

HMMMMM Arthur got fat, we gonna we him on 600 LB life.

[@Local_acquaintance]

r/ihadastroke

[@ejdavis5204]

r/ihadastroke

[@kayagorzan]

r/adastroke

[@kathleenpeterson3692]

He got THICC

[@kathleenpeterson3692]

r/ihadastroke

[@endriusza]

5:40 imagine being chasedby him in the middle of the night. After 20 minutes of runing you finaly find a place to hide. You looking straight into the darkness and you see the last thing that you see in your live THE BIG GLOWING EYES OF *NƏMO* THE KILLER OF INNOCENT

[@cheyennearnett8534]

Why u do this to me?

[@goldenrosepetals5026]

This is terrifying because I just got back to my house and its night

[@acekirby678]

6:45 Ok but that was actually pretty good voice acting.

[@yeatfan5886]

“I guess you wonder where I’ve been” But the Big Brain Walter is back 😁😁

[@astrojeb]

Carter Tidwell yes he is

[@fionnandrews6090]

But you might be his cousin hmmmm

[@ladsinc527]

It’s not him

[@bellacadance3129]

I hate how well I can hear this

[@morganjack18]

I like fire trucks and moster trucks

[@notherelol]

Inside joke: Fake foods made of foam or plastic * C R O N C H *

[@funnyplaylistperson3026]

Natalie Geer I’m not sure you know what an inside joke is

[@notherelol]

Oh its an inside joke. One mention and we all know whats coming to the group chat. _PURE CHAOS_

[@overiorae4510]

That’s.. not an inside joke, most people understand that

[@diegosalinas9278]

@@overiorae4510 yea... you are right

[@reddittellss9881]

Haha I said this joke outside so it is no longer a inside joke hahahaha 😃!!!!!!

[@matthewcraig7794]

4:20 Guy 1: Are you religious? Guy 2: Ya I guess Guy 1: I’d like to introduce you to my religion Guy 2: What’s your religion Guy 1: //sends this picture// Guy 2: *I’M INTERESTED*

[@Ann_plom]

420, nice 👌

[@Gingerika1968]

10:58 Glitchtrap, is that you?

[@ThomasFarquhar2]

10:58 we did it Bois, glitchtrap has finally been spotted

[@ace_jaye]

11:26 Oh no Oh no Cave Johnson perfected the self combusting lemon that will burn your house down! The world is now in danger

[@S0lidus_Tweek]

ah yes, a person of culture

[@keynobi9258]

This is what I was looking for. Thanks :)

[@lisa101561]

Oh my goodness yess

[@agenthellothere]

OH NO EVERYBODY RUN

[@firestone181]

*COMBUSTIBLE LEMON*

[@ethanizer1096]

10:58 the man behind the slaughter

[@hayhay1044]

I am so confused, yet intrigued at the same time... *I LOVE IT*

[@Machielovic]

you just summed up emkay ;-)

[@dawnredwood9433]

That’s the point

[@Xeroxia]

“Hey it’s that video with the Tesla driver” Jack: WHAT YOU SAY TO ME

[@chaoticsamio]

traffic cone Becky

[@Not-Sci]

@@chaoticsamio CONES

[@allotheidiot6862]

10:58 glitchtrap did some drugs

[@JayisPayisTheFirst]

Dam your very right

[@D3xagon]

10:58 we have found a seceret image of william afton in the 1980's

[@matameporfaolivares2370]

Well time to duild a time machine

[@mothman1972]

@@matameporfaolivares2370 We already have a time-travelling ball pit, we can use that! Lol

[@theawsomecheese9714]

And they added opera dining in the background

[@Jamesect2229]

It literally is glitch trap you can tell because of the vest

[@D3xagon]

I was just about to say something about a time travelling ball pit, I was to late

[@lukaswheale2673]

“It’s a ciggie wig” one of the best phrases I’ve seen on this video and this video only

[@hayhay1044]

Day 1 of asking Jack to say: Hello everyone, I’m Jack. Today’s video is brought to you by Australia, where the only thing worse than the weather is the wildlife! (w h e e z e)

[@Jermstorm]

I'm ready to see this

[@JotaroKujo-ow6iq]

He actually did it. . . kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5ObY4uYZqhrpdU

[@Curtilius]

... ya got me...

[@oblivionthekhajiit1155]

@Aden Gasim I memorized that

[@transvegan7682]

Jotaro Kujo lol I thought this was a rickroll!

[@legitscoper3259]

12:00 Actually, in Germany they'd made a world record pulling a train, with model trains

[@timothymonk1356]

14:32 I've actually specifically asked for this a couple of times. You then remove the crusts, butter it, and cover with sprinkles, roll it up, and cut it into thin slices, and you've got fairy-bread-scrolls.

[@ghouligan3045]

15:10 not gonna lie the singing was majestic until it went up and I quickly realised....ah- this gone be gud

[@PeterJamesVillegas]

In the Kitchen Mom: Why is there a stack of pancakes in the Kitchen? Me: Hmmm (200+ Hours in Helltaker)

[@thesoy-sorcerer9469]

Wut? Plz explain

[@Gyro-nb6tp]

@@thesoy-sorcerer9469 Try playing "Helltaker" its a fun game

[@garfieldlasagne5485]

64 pancakes is really much don't you think?

[@dexter_oxm6019]

Cerberus is best girls in my opinion

[@regera.8270]

*_Angry Doomslayer Noises_*

[@Peannlui]

4:19 - there's rubber gloves on the bottles, to catch all the carbon dioxide the yeast is farting out. *salutes*

[@bones_and_bones6911]

10:58 has anyone noticed that the bunny looks exactly like the yellow glitchy bunny of five nights at Freddy VR or is it jus me-

[@foxworthystudios5256]

You're not the only one!

[@bigstupidsoph]

nope, i noticed that too

[@DuskstarShine]

yea! looks almost the exact same as Glitch Trap

[@thequietoneforever9952]

Duskstar Shine even the vest and bow tie is the same as glitch trap

[@charlieemily5397]

y is there a live glitchtrap

[@schottkydiode7507]

11:00 Somehow that sound harmonic to me *WHY DOES IT SOUND HARMONIC?* Anyway, lmao this is the best video I've seen today lol

[@cheyennearnett8534]

I DON'T KNOW BUT I WANT IT TO BE MY RINGTONE!

[@schottkydiode7507]

@@cheyennearnett8534 who doesn't? Lol

[@ItsYaBoi129]

Because it is? Are you dummy?

[@hotelscootis6354]

5:41 I live about an hour away from that. It’s an attraction at a place called “ hot Sam’s”. Did I mention that the entire place is full of stuff like that? Also it’s in Minnesota. I’m from Minnesota. Whenever I drive past it time seems to slow down and Nemo the car seems to say: “ stop the car Oliver. Get inside me Oliver. Look at me Oliver. Stop ignoring me Oliver. I can see your thoughts Oliver. I know where you live Oliver. I know your blood type Oliver. I can smell your fear Oliver. Come closer Oliver. FEAR: END. You can’t run Oliver. I know your deepest darkest desires, I can make them all come true if you just drive me.” It’s fun.

[@bruhmode6836]

Ok

[@hotelscootis6354]

No

[@newtrog.367]

"HEY! WHAT A WONDERFUL KIND OF DAY" "MY HEART STOPPED YESTERDAY"

[@16legsX]

10:58 GLICTHTRAP WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF- How old is that photo.... FREDDY FAZBEARS PIZZA COULD BE REAAL

[@stove_]

it's an edit someone made on reddit

[@thelambsauce4616]

IK ITS GLITCHTRAO

[@FixyFlow]

*IT’S THE MAN BEHIND THE SLAUGHTER!*

[@isabellegiddins8428]

I Saw it and was like ...

[@trash1016]

@@stove_ it doesn't change the fact that it's nightmare fuel

[@sophiawilson1494]

"Yeah, I like that one. That one's violent."

[@buttercupkat]

0:58 Little do you know, they were hosting a birthday party for the cat.

[@pea1416]

I want someone to give a crab a picture of their cousin holding a knife and let them hold it

[@jasonabbeyaiden]

10:59 hey looks like glitch trap made it out

[@wolfofthegalaxy7983]

me: *stares at the bunny that came on at 10:59 * also me: hummm that is glitchtrap.

[@pyromare4879]

That’s what the original joke was But now it’s in r/hmm

[@notshariii]

That's what I was thinking as well

[@sshishorts4937]

Wait when was glitch trap real I need to go to freddy Fazbears right now

[@im_alexander6440]

Yesss, My fandom is back-

[@galacticdragonlife]

In deed it is friend

[@jaydenyap2529]

10:58 That kid on the right already knows what's gonna happen next. You better be satisfied, Glitchtrap.

[@GhostKrow_]

Anyone else think Jack's singing skills are over the roof? i mean, DAMN! he sings like an angel!!

[@Funtime_Kacey]

2 things- 10:57 1. Is that... Glitchtrap...? 2. Ooooooo-AAAAaaaaHh XD

[@MrSnail-gs3wg]

Fellow weeb?

[@Nerd2025.]

Omg hello!!!!!

[@matameporfaolivares2370]

Yep it is

[@matameporfaolivares2370]

And ima go to find the other believers of fnaf deing real

[@mothman1972]

@@MrSnail-gs3wg Yes

[@ZpLxCity]

8:51 he's actually an argentinian pro wrestler from a promotion/show called Titanes En El Ring (which translates to titans on the ring) his ring name is Yolanka and his gimmick was that he was an alien if i rembember correctly,i almost forgot to mention this dude got his own branded yogurt

[@baptisteramiro1918]

11:06 , that looks like GlitchTrap from FNAF VR in real life

[@zero-uy9cn]

Bc that is,but look at thoes eyes...THEY ARE STARING RIGHT INTO OUR SOULS!

[@mothman1972]

It is :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@mothman1972]

@@zero-uy9cn Ikr LOL

[@codarenken9692]

fnaf isnt just a game anymore

[@baptisteramiro1918]

@@codarenken9692 , You right

[@ravenklinger7617]

12:15 the horse is an Akhal-Teke, the metallic sheen is a natural occurrence in the breed, nothing was added to it's coat.

[@chosen_undeadd544]

6:47 that "get me down" made me giggle for unexplainable reasons

[@nejcboh5701]

5:27 is everybody Just gonna glance over the fact that he has 6 fingers

[@purplellama4174]

Fun Fact : Most early people on KZbin comment before they even watch the video

[@PoP-ri7sr]

that also explains the amount of views and likes

[@tsumiki7752]

Ironic...

[@kathleenpeterson3692]

I guess that's what you did

[@purplellama4174]

@@kathleenpeterson3692 lol yea

[@hipbro3484]

Like you!

[@TheRadioactiveMaster]

i like the background on the intro, its much easier on the eyes

[@flow_gnag]

Agreed

[@drantigon]

Indeed, I think it's only when Jack narrates

[@infernowa]

Lol

[@Rexofthe501st]

4:34 When Jack said the cow is copying his exact posture, I said *"Mood",* then I stopped and immediately felt disappointed in myself because my brain told me I had just unintentionally made a dad joke.

[@aidangreene2610]

I saw someone do something similar to the couch dogs. They had 2 paddleboards, a miniature dock attacked, and just floated around. Even had 2 dogs with them.

[@globalsimplified3913]

Congratulation to everyone who said “First” and “Second”

[@Jermstorm]

"First" "SECOND"

[@inot8652]

"dnoceS" "tsriF"

[@lisahenry20]

Third!

[@kayagorzan]

Seventy-third

[@Aayush-o7p]

Thanks Man

[@whentheisthewhen5001]

1:03 that shouldn't have been on r/hmm, it should've been on mildly infuriating..

[@god9831]

Nothing suspicious here, just a reverse card saying hi.

[@gnarly.bulblax]

no u

[@mothman1972]

Hi

[@redcum3833]

No me

[@morelikemorum870]

Uno reverse card

[@tacobandit97]

Everything suspicious here, just a reverse card saying bye.

[@oishi_sammich4542]

Mad props to Jack for his voice acting performance

[@alexsmith6281]

12:07 feels like the part of a Cube Escape/Rusty Lake game where you have to inexplicably feed a bug to an aquatic animal, most likely a shrimp or fish

[@MarchieHare]

10:58 he looks like glitchtrap-

[@springyb0i693]

It is. It most certainly is.

[@MrSnail-gs3wg]

Ah fellow weeb

[@oliviam450]

Weeb ツ Hello :D

[@CozyUndead]

it Is

[@matameporfaolivares2370]

Im on a mission to solve this mistery

[@sparrow5813]

"Hi, my name is Jack" _Stops video_ _Turns down the volume suspiciously_ _Checks connection with headphones_ _Press play again_

[@Suo_kongque]

I remember that...

[@catastrophicmid-lifecrisis451]

*Never* *again*......

[@lovelornxd]

"Mexican beer virus" LMFAOOKABSA

[@Jermstorm]

Well now the bulbonic plague is in China so CHINA IS TRYING TO PRISON THE OTHER CONTINENT'S

[@anawesomepet]

G4, A new swine flu is actually spreading.

[@Jermstorm]

HAH the world is falling apart

[@Jermstorm]

We are all going to DIE

[@lovelornxd]

I-

[@rxsOwO]

7:57 She is actually a Japanese music artist known as “Kyary Pamyu Pamyu” this was for one of her albums. She made the song ponponpon.

[@teamobi3327]

I was just about to say this. I'm sure this was for a promo of some sort.

[@rxsOwO]

Tea Mobi yeah it was for her album “kpp best”

[@solaridraconi6225]

9:58 Love the random Kamen Rider Agito amongst them.

[@directlystar]

Not creative in terms of comments but i still wanna do it so here Take this half baked potatoed sentence

[@stonks6669]

*half baked potatoed*

[@nurallifeakinanti5660]

*Half baked potated*

[@datonecaleb860]

*half baked potate*

[@fbifib4441]

half baked potat

[@thepersonnooneknows]

half baked pota

[@MostSaneREfan]

*4:51* I guess you could say its an *Electric* Guitar

[@lincolnnolte3631]

*sees thumbnail* Me: I thought this was R/hmm, not R/cursed Images.

[@chuckiethesouthpaw]

10:07 "what are you doing, step-bro? 😏" lmfao 😙👌

[@oshy3385]

9:28 Fun Fact, there's a name for this type of pose. it's called a Sploot, and basically all cats and dogs do it

[@QuintonMurdock]

12:52 as the owner of a Honda Civic that has a busted AC compressor I definitely understand this. Older cars, especially ones shaped like that catch the air and have a reasonably strong wind current right in the area where the entrance to the pipe. It wouldn’t work great and it would suck if you are stuck behind a vehicle that doesn’t have the cleanest of emissions. But it would definitely work to keep the ride somewhat reasonably comfortable

[@hollotro6411]

Day 1 of asking jack to say: "Hi, im jack and you're watching disney channel"

[@moveitmoveit8342]

Good luck my guy.

[@blade5445]

I wish you all the best. Good luck.

[@KiKiWren]

10:58 (It’s been so long intensifies) Okay. Glitchtrap is officially real. Now let me die

[@thefaulnt3562]

15:45: so that’s what cats stare at nothing for, they are actually Pokémon watching

[@curseds0ldier]

13:46 when you try to cheat but the teacher is watching you

[@astrinosgr3200]

Grandma: would you like some bread? Me:yes a liltle bit though The bread my grandma gives: 0:00

[@xianjacobs6257]

My grandma is better : 4:29

[@astrinosgr3200]

You won that round xian Jacobs you won that round.

[@jackh.7895]

When you’re so early that the likes are higher than the views Me:quick think of something funny

[@justsomeperson7306]

Next time do “hi I’m chad jack I totally have a 6 pack”

[@zackthetriplezhackster5969]

10:58 glitchtrap be lookin too happy taking that picture.

[@jaredcastro579]

Damien: "The next step is to make Coke Powder out of actual Coca-Cola." Me: "You mean deconstructing an original Coke from the past?"

[@brage2333]

Hello emkay do you respond to the comments?

[@definitelynotagenocider5204]

This reply is made before Emkay replies (I hope)

[@ryebisquit]

perhaps

[@rowletguy9139]

Doubt it.

[@juliancuellarm.2498]

Cute doggo

[@barissaglam9546]

@@rowletguy9139 no

[@jabruta8779]

I’m gonna say something Get ready.... *Something.*

[@Syhyronica]

oh my god... you are the real jokester arent ya?

[@mellohere6305]

10:34 Misfortune's breakfast! Like if you know what i'm talking about bc idk if everyone'll get it =w=

[@kkimbberly6309]

i get it

[@lisa101561]

Nice little misfortune reference

[@mellohere6305]

@@ActualityOfThought so little misfortune is a game that most people know bc several big KZbinrs played it, it's like a Fran bow 2

[@reimakesgames]

honestly at 6:45, i thought it was a real video. thanks robin and the editor

[@walterwhitelover74]

Real good edit on the glitchtrap mad respect to whoever made it.

[@deltaflamestorm7400]

10:00 everyone should be required to wear those masks

[@doctorpobrezahd3625]

@Chris Clifford I have this weird fantasy of going into a furry convention with a plague doctor mask a flamethrower and a glock, just imagine the rest.

[@pokerplayer4197]

Doctor Pobreza HD yes.

[@jmcdonald8902]

10:58 So, you know how chucky cheese is turning into fnaf irl, right? I know present to you: ĢŁĪŢĆH ÞŔÂP

[@matameporfaolivares2370]

Ima duild my own fnaf 1 replica

[@mk1rie909]

im building a fnaf 1 endo with lego technic and arduino i already got the head

[@S0lidus_Tweek]

11:26 Cave Johnson would like to know your location

[@daphnemorf6171]

Jack singing makes my day every timeeeeee

[@abbie6381]

I think this was actually one of my fav Emkay videos and not for the content, nono, just because Jack was being kinda insane lmao

[@storr7535]

Day 1 of asking jack to say "Hey I'm back its jack and welcome to another sub reddit made by someone who was on crack"

[@personita2.733]

Hey , weren't you in 10:58

[@mothman1972]

Surprised this wasn't a comment about the Glitchtrap picture lol

[@roastingpotatoes6022]

Let’s just pretend I said something funny

[@anawesomepet]

I liked that joke!

[@i_dont_truly_exist690]

Lmao

[@themikefiddledoodle]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@StrangePranish]

Ha ha ha ha ha

[@bruhmoment176]

@@anawesomepet yes very funny joke it made me kill my whole family... John... HELP

[@OfStarrySkiesandFireflies]

10:58 WTH THAT IS GLITCHTRAP. HOW. THE FLIPPIN. HECK. SOMEONE CALL MATPAT TO DEAL WITH HIM, PLEASE.

[@matameporfaolivares2370]

Hey im ... y dont know anymore

[@feifea]

0:32 The person the next day: 🖐🏼🎨🖐🏼

[@mrpoochy5572]

I haven't seen emkay in months and I come back to this guy How dare you stand where he stood

[@itsdeltamothertruckers8501]

My dad had the Mexican beer virus but is better now and funny thing he didn't have and medicine or treatment from doctors