2023 Haibike ALLMTN - Full Power... Peak Haibike?

I test ride the new 2023 Haibike ALLMTN CF SE in Verbier on some awesome trails at Verbier E-Bike Festival!
Priced at £7699, the Haibike ALLMTN CF SE has a Bosch Smart 85NM motor, 750Wh battery, Mixed / Mullet wheelset, SRAM AXS shifting and Rockshox Suspension, with 160mm travel front and rear.
ETHICS, DISCLAIMER and TRANSPARENCY: Verbier E-Bike Festival hired me to visit the recent festival event to film and feature content on my channel. HAIBIKE are one of the headline sponsors of the E-Bike Festival, so are indirectly are linked to the video here. Neither HAIBIKE, or the organisers of Verbier E-Bike Festival, have had any editorial or narrative control over the video.
This paid partnership with Verbier E-Bike Festival has allowed me time to film this bike (and others) and also film and edit over multiple days working with an independent film crew to help capture and produce video content.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Haibike Mini Test at Verbier. Haibike mentioned that originally the bike was specced with a piggyback shock but had to be changed to this one due to stock constraints from SRAM - Hope you enjoy the vid it, shout out to Jon (The Bike Pilot) for some banging shots here!

[@ericm8811]

Hey Rob Rides Emtb! Haibike have been doing ebikes longer than most and it seems they jammed some value into this one! Thanks for the epic cinematography! Ride ride ride!

[@EMTBPodcast]

Those transitions were stunning 🤩 Great work Rob. And banging shots John!

[@TheBikePilot]

Cheers Ben!

[@HarryASMR]

Rob your gimbal work and retiming edits are on point! 🙌🤯

[@p.k.7111]

Great riding skills and perfect montage!

[@easty-stage-4-fighter.]

great video and absolute peach of a trail

[@BZXT]

Beautifully made review Rob, well done. Really appreciate the work you put into these. What is the name of background music at 5:25?

[@OmnibusX]

Around 1500km on mine, and pleased with the bike and how it performs. But problems with the battery short circuiting, and is getting a new one.

[@MTB_ADVENTURE]

very nice review. thank you 👍

[@pawelodz8050]

Camera what you use is really amazing 😍 Beautiful shots

[@thomashawtin8706]

Hi Rob. I'm buying my first EMBT this weekend, hopefully. I have found your reviews so useful. Am i really losing anything getting the 2022 Allmtn 3 that I'm going to look at this weekend. Here's hoping on the off chance you see and decide to reply :)

[@MTBs]

For the first time I really would like to ride a Haibike. Doesn't look too weird anymore.

[@LimPu]

I am riding Haibike for quite some time now and they are great. Yes, the looks are "different", which is most likely the very goal they are after. They tend to be on the more expensive side these days, but the feel of those bikes is great to say the least. Riding Focus, Cube and Giant too. Haibike is where I feel the most comfortable. Might be a fanboy feelign by now, Cube is following extremely close these days and even Focus is following suit with the geometry. Still, Haibike does the trick.

[@shaneward4065]

Another great review Rob but still waiting for the voima review 🤔

[@denesk2794]

Those mountain top shots look super nice... kudos.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Thanks a ton!

[@oli_jens]

My word look at those TRAILS

[@dutydruid69]

Interesting that they've changed to an alloy rear end , although not surprised after the failings on the 2021 allmtn 6 and 7 ?

[@mcmanus1806]

Sounds exactly like my Cube 160

[@jamesweldon8118]

Are you going to review the full suspension hyper mid drive from Wal-Mart? $1500

[@Me-mu6tb]

Can you please review the cube stereo 160 hybrid again

[@xsurfy]

when ru going to review the Cheeb 2.0!?

[@tonynobrega9115]

See the Bosch motor badge has already fallen off 😂😂 why can’t they a simple badge stick!

[@ElGuapoDeSantoPoco]

Same here on my cannondale.

[@CordlezToaster]

Do you notice a difference with an aluminum rear triangle?

[@corwath1]

Haibikes in general, but this one in particular, fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

[@stuartcowley9713]

Hi Rob Did you encounter any problems with loose battery? Mine has come loose and smashing against carbon downtube and shutting down! Only covered 250mls 🤷‍♂️

[@goranquo4573]

I have since 2 months this Rolce Royce bike. Is it possible to pair the Garmin Edge with Bosch Smart system? Thanks

[@Greg-qk4ul]

Rob are u planning to do review of haibike nduro 7 ?

[@leeteemtb9587]

It ain't no Swinley forest like your local trails

[@revenant6910]

Can you please review affordable E-M.Bike that is available internationally. Most of the reviews are for EU, non of them is easy to get in the US

[@jerryx2000]

Fun fact: Verbier isn’t a place for ebikes. You take the ski lift and go up. Every track is super downhill

[@RobRidesEMTB]

We rode up a lot of the time on ebikes 👍👍 I thought it was perfect for ebikes. No need to take lifts!

[@markyboyclark]

Rob, what happened to the flyon motor? 🤔

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Pretty much a dead project now

[@mischwald2000]

Not my design, to be honest. Motors become smaller and smaller and what is Haibike doing?! Designing a chunky whatever this lookthrough cage is at the bottom. 😏 Also the color is not what I personally like. Brilliant video though with great pictures as always!! 🙌🏼

[@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985]

Maybe for protection?

[@ForbinColossus]

Thanks, Rob! Love to see new Haibikes! It does not have the Bosch Smart System which may be preferred), but for me the big negative is that hideous gap infront of the motor. I was a huge fan of Haibike, but they seemed absent in the last two years. Remember the huge splash the TQ-powered 'FLYON' Haibike made in 2019 at Eurobike? (Here was Rob's test kzbin.info/www/bejne/moTQnWeJnNJ_itU ).

[@Derestricted1]

The gap helps the cooling of the motor and avoids it overheating like on some other models.

[@ForbinColossus]

@@Derestricted1 I get your theory until you remember that other 'gapless' Bosch designs dont have a gap and dont overheat

[@FishForFun.]

I have $100 aud what is a good air fork I look and I have struggled I have a trek marlin 5 2022

[@anttiharing]

You can’t get any good fork for that, you need at least 250$

[@robertbransby]

Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder, I always wince at Hiabikes as to me they always seem to have hit every branch of the ugly tree

[@gvnthomas]

When do Haibike launch/release the 2023 ALLMTN? Really want one but no point buying the 2022 version if the 2023 version is dropping shortly.

[@Chr1s_race]

Google: haibike HYBE

[@ec.marquez]

priced at 7966 ? pesos .Rubes. EROS or U.S. Dollars ?

[@jordanmackay3568]

455 is just too long. I'm 6ft 2 and find 440 is the sweet spot. Can always remove a spacer below the stem to add forward balance if necessary

[@melissacharlottebrow]

Hey Rob, if you had 5K to spend on an EMTB which one would you go for? Also is it possible you can do a "Best EMTB for around 5K" video please?

[@pcarts232]

Or earth wild fs or Orbea Rise ! Absolute masterpiece of a bike ! I have the Wild FS 20 , was £4999 absolutely love it 👍👍

[@pcarts232]

Typo 😂 ** Orbea

[@chriswiles87]

Great looking bike but the Bosch display and controller are hideous. I don't understand why the display is not integrated into the frame with a minimalist OLED display with a small controller.

[@jed7939]

Because bosch knows its mostly old people that buy expensive e-bikes and they need the large controls and displays. /s

[@Echoes-]

Bosch do have slimmer controls now so i don't get why they don't use it on a new 2023 bike.

[@recipehacker9752]

Th e Heil bike ha always been hard on the eyes. Integrated battery has not helped the appearance either. The one I tested red Ike a couch. Least playful bike, clunky.

[@trevorshields7347]

I bought a Haibike all mtn7 just under 2 years ago. I love the bike but if you ever have to make a claim on warranty, I cant think of a worse company to deal with. The amount of things they say isn't covered by warranty is a complete joke. Almost to the point of being embarrassing.

[@bullcross3]

What things have they said they won't cover? Just ordered the nduro 7 and that's 1 thing that's putting me off the warranty claims

[@carlton683]

Very disappointed that you never had a full face helmet on considering you have had a nasty fall last year 😕

[@sixfootplus]

? Weird comment award

[@goranquo4573]

Nobody needs stupid helmets. Just free ride...

[@Chr1s_race]

Weight of the bike? Rear travel? Haibike say this not.

[@samituominen7977]

No pole voima review, sorry rob but i think you should make or quit.

[@tyderdurdan1848]

i had 2 haibikes....first was "cheap" for 2.300euro, second 3.500euro. you have to spend up to 5.000euro to get a good haibike.....at the moment i ride a canyon spectral on cf7 (5.000euro)....lots of difference......

[@goranl2588]

Haibike cf se is 1000 times better than your Canyon.

[@zbnz-big5640]

Luckily for Haibike, the Scott patron looks worse

[@Vedrinec394]

Where is Bafang reveiew, this is boring all same

[@th_js]

Boring, boring, we're all waiting for the Voima video!

[@kburn]

Awful warranty, terrible looks, a bike built for people who have not done enough research and think that the slightly lower price is a value statement. Avoid at all costs.

[@mikenimmick3920]

Boy oh boy...are they color blind at Haibike? Cause...that is one unattractive bike.