EN | Bosch User experience for automated driving

[@quadraturencoder]

To all those who find it uncool and see automatic driving take the fun out of having a car: look around you in a traffic jam, in busy traffic, on your way to work or to a sales meeting. How many drivers around you are having fun? But I heard the same arguments about manual shift versus automatic, vinyls vs. CDs, CDs vs. mp3. In five years, automatic mode will be the main mode of operation in new cars, and drivers will rarely disable autopilot to "have fun", simply because the automatic mode is so convenient. Thanks, Bosch, for this great preview.

[@impossibru5721]

Matthias Melcher I will never change to automatic

[@ArseneGray]

Matthias Melcher One needs to note that a car would never do unneccesary manouvers, speed above the speed limitation, and generally wouldnt do anything what causes most of the car accidents. Maybe in the future, the automated cars of different brands would even communicate with each other over a new, safe, short-range protocoll and coordinate their intended maneuvers to secure more safety.

[@Hirotoro4692]

Impossibru Yes, you would change to automatic and you damn well know it. Driving is fun when you're not stuck in congestion. Crawling along a motorway (highway) at 5 mph average is NOT fun driving, and it's the ultimate time to put the car into automatic and browse the net, chat or watch videos. Driving around a twisty canyon is FUN and hardly anybody would use automatic. Motorways are boring. Fun. Boring. Different situations for different purposes. Or... or are you saying you find crawling along in a traffic jam is so much fun compared to watching videos online?

[@tsport100]

The most obvious question now is: How much are Tesla and Bosch working together on vehicle automation?

[@boschmobility]

tsport100 The vehicle shown in the movie was used to demonstrate the Bosch vision of the user experience and future HMI design in automated vehicles.

[@thierryvt]

Bosch Mobility Solutions it was still obviously a tesla though. (or an obvious derivative at least)

[@bernardsuen1915]

I still enjoy driving and I think this is a more practical vision then Google's vision. Planes has been using automation for years and why haven't they eliminate the pilot, it is because if anything goes wrong they can take control immediately. E.g. computer failures, engine failures, etc. Balancing between manual and automated driving is the way that we should be going toward because there are still a lot of people that enjoy driving. I will be surprise if an automated car doesn't have a manual override. Good job Bosch

[@ArseneGray]

Bosch got serious good ideas and do mix themselves in automative industry with professional skill. I am excited to see what will the future bring with it.

[@nikolabob]

That's Tesla model S...

[@ChrisRussell91]

fantastic how the arrows orientation is slightly skewed...

[@KraylusGames]

This is incredible!

[@aveekmishra5048]

I don't know if this has been posted here before but this is the future for Tesla owners ...

[@milliondollarteslatrip5291]

This is great!!! Would love to help show this off on my trip.

[@asyncasync]

What's the drivers name again? I keep forgetting.

[@Tempestium]

This is really exciting stuff here.

[@Silverobots]

you have to start somewhere I guess, but wouldn't it be better if it gave the option of voice notifications?

[@EverythingAE]

Fantastic idea. One issue: what happens if you fall asleep, the car is unable to wake you up, and you are unable to regain manual control?

[@MrDeaz]

Gabriel Chavez As it said in the video, the car will find a safe spot to park at the side of the road

[@Sharekable]

Gabriel Chavez Did you not watch the video? If he doesn't take control after the automatic period ends the car will pull to the side of the road and stop.

[@ChrisHarrington]

Gabriel Chavez The video says that the car would pull over to the side of the road and stop.

[@Syberz]

Gabriel Chavez The video answered that question: the car finds a safe shoulder, pulls over and stops.

[@themodfather9382]

It will pull over. It can't crash. If it sees something in front of you, it will stop.

[@stap0510]

What if you're not a young professional, like Philip?

[@Moshaz1]

So, when will it be available?

[@dmitrysmirnov6213]

why there is a battery icon on the big screen at the top left?

[@ps3Lover0]

I don't like the manual mode change if something were to ever happen I would like instant control for example "Don't touch the steering wheel until you want to engage manual mode."

[@andrewdiamond2697]

Having just driven 525 miles back from Orlando, FL with my wife and daughter last week, all I can say is "Where do I sign up for this?"

[@chefawkes]

You shouldn't have to press buttons to go manual. It should happen as soon as you engage the wheel or pedals. In case you need to make a quick move.

[@d3c0mpr3ss]

So how is the security on this system? Easily breached?

[@VoztokTV]

I know they said that the car would pull over to the side of the road once the gps road turns red, but what I'm wondering is how are these companies making it where the driver less cars know when a red light turns green?

[@pmlitman]

Assuming a large population of automated cars, what would happen with opposing "personal settings?" For instance, if I chose a near-gap, sporty, accelerated overtake as a personal preference, and another user chose a conservative, slow, long overtake, will that cause delays or even potential hazardous conditions?

[@boschmobility]

Paul Litman Automated vehicles will be able to “talk to each other” via vehicle-to-vehicle communication and will be able to avoid conflicting situations.

[@tetsugal]

Mmm... I don't think partial automation will have a significant impact on the market share. The tech only becomes affordable for everyday people if we share the cost of it and this is only possible with fully automated cars, the car takes you to your destination and then it goes to pick up another customer/passenger, so we squeeze every minute of its lifespan. Besides, I think the tech progress will move so fast there simply won't be time for these marginal niches.

[@sketchbookgames]

I see it will change colors when it wants me to drive, can it also be set to "alarm clock" mode to wake me up? How soon will this be available? Then how soon until it can handle all roads? I think I've seen a video from Google indicating they automate driving through crowded city streets with j-walkers... safely!

[@ChrisPBacon21]

I ain't no genius but that don't look like an airport at the end.

[@miguelmaer24]

Very good

[@durden91tyler]

What if theres construction, what if an ambulance needs to get by, what if there are no painted lines on the road?

[@iansummerfield]

Great, but in a situation whereby an accident can't be avoided, maybe something falls off a bridge you're about to pass under, how will it make the right decision? Would it know to swerve through a hedgerow rather than hit a solid block of concrete? What if the concrete fallen was a better option than the 300 foot drop the other side of a hedgerow? Sure the driver could take manual control BUT they're busy watching video or reading email! I get the point of it, but I think roads have to become more like railway lines first, and all the other cars around you also automated with each car communicating its' intentions.

[@boschmobility]

Ian Summerfield The “decision making” of an automated vehicle is a very important task - as is for the driver. In case something falls down a bridge unexpectedly, the driver also needs to decide which reaction might be the best. With the help of the vehicle’s surround sensors, the automated car permanently senses its direct environment. Based on this and additional information, the vehicle calculates its trajectory. By knowing physical limits and by taking potential risks into consideration, the automated car will in future be able to calculate the optimal possible driving path.

[@PerfectlyFunctioningAI]

I can already see it, James, Hammond, and Jeremy trying to break/confuse/destroy this car in protest of self driving cars. I cant wait to see that episode of top ge- oh wait....

[@stropinel1234]

Why doese that car navigation have a Baterry indicator on the top left corner ?

[@boschmobility]

Stropinel Calin It’s the indicator for the charge level of the vehicles battery. It’s an electric vehicle.

[@stropinel1234]

Bosch Mobility Solutions ... Good argument, looked like a mobile phone inteeface, that's why i asked. Hope to see this on the road sometime. I would love to buy it.

[@surendersurendar8138]

It's possible in INDIA

[@MobiusCoin]

Red is a bad indicator colour. At least that bright glowing one, it incites panic and a sense that something is wrong.

[@Zoza15]

In a few years they will introduce self moving chairs that can turn to change the layout inside the car and shape a bed like comfortable seat for you to relax while the car drives for you.. Yeah, this isn't so far fetched now is it..

[@gajillion]

Great. One more place I have to be "productive."

[@none-ec8ku]

TomTom maps used for this?

[@boschmobility]

Dokus79 No TomTom maps have been used for this movie.

[@donberg01]

Problem is: most mechanics (gear heads) aren't good electronic techs! That's what it will take to troubleshoot these new "fangled" cars, and guess what, who will spend the training money to up grade the old timers to this new technology?Also what shops will have all the latest, greatest, & most expensive diagnostic equipment to repair these vehicles?

[@fmanh]

My view is that automated driving should be binary. Either the car is in auto in which case I can turn my attention to my lap top do some work and not care about traffic. Or it is manual. There is really no in between as I see it. To turn over control to the driver when thing goes to he'll is really a cop out. To regain situation awareness and figure out what to do once you left with control when thing start to wrong is not the way to do it.

[@boschmobility]

fmanh There is an “in between” called assisted driving. This is what today’s driver assistance systems do, e.g. help not leaving the marked lane unintentionally or help to prevent rear-end collisions by performing automatic emergency braking in case the driver does not react in time.

[@Ryukachoo]

it seems like the entire system is designed around distrust of the automation system. google's fleet of 9 modified prius' have been driving around san fransisco for the past five years now, i think they're at 600,000 miles of autonomous driving combined, and there have been two accidents both were minor fender benders and in both cases, a person was driving i dont think its really sunk in for people; autonomous cars got REALLY good REALLY fast

[@napalmhardcore]

While I realise this will appeal to many, it isn't my cup of tea. I don't even like driving a car with automatic gears as I enjoy the experience of driving. I might reconsider once it can get me home when I've had a few to drink lol. (Yes I see the problem with that, before I get bombarded with comments)

[@SEVENZEROTWO]

Expect to see this on vehicles with a MSRP in excess of $100,000

[@chiller252]

Hmm, some great Ides. Only, if only this car exists...

[@Tyngdlyftning1]

chiller252 It does exist.

[@chiller252]

Exactly

[@ReidVV]

Do we really want this?

[@merlin3921]

I've seen this technology evolve over the years and I think it has some validity. I'm not sure if people realize that this would constitute distracted driving if the driver takes his hands off the steering wheel and or starts reading his emails. Therefore, I'm not sure how this is going to be implemented efficiently. In Canada, the RCMP are now allowed to just take down your license plate and send you a distracted driver infraction without pulling you over. Think of the mayhem that this system will cause with people fighting tickets.

[@KrisTube2022]

Neil M The law will need to change to accommodate this.

[@FrostbitexP]

Neil M Pretty sure its obvious that if someone is driving without their hands on the wheel and the car is in full control...Theyre driving an self driving car...I really doubt people getting a ticket will be a problem.

[@onaoopee]

THE FUTURE IS NOW

[@Izumi-sp6fp]

lol! id like to see what that screen looks like after you've been eating a burger and fries... better make it voice responsive as soon as possible.

[@robux4839]

That a tesla but the screen different

[@snawzonake]

This is terrifying

[@Texagfan12]

Alright, now tell me how much it costs.

[@boschmobility]

Texagfan12 We believe that the additional charge for a car with automated driving function will be around 3,000 EUR. A study conducted by J.D. Power dealt with that topic and provided some interesting findings: bit.ly/Xsmy7S

[@ClockinLoot]

Bosch Mobility Solutions awsome

[@Sl1z3r]

All this thanks to NVidia for its own superprocessor ;)

[@timurn.6475]

funny cars will become a kind of washmachine housewifes will be pleased

[@博兰托]

That vehicle is Tesla model s

[@JohnDoe_1237]

fail, while he is accepting the lane change, the front car is REALLY close to his car... really bad system :D

[@zlozlozlo]

How does this not get them sued? Maybe Tesla doesn't know that this exists? I think I'm gonna write them an email.

[@boschmobility]

zlozlozlo This Bosch movie on user experience for automated driving was presented to the public during the Consumer Electronics Show 2015 in Las Vegas.

[@AnimefreakHQ]

zlozlozlo I only see the similarities in the display locations and that wasn't first designed by Tesla.

[@zlozlozlo]

AnimefreakHQ That may be so, but they are actually using a Tesla Model S, and badly masking the fact that they're doing so.

[@RobotZombii]

zlozlozlo You've actually got it backwards there. Bosch could only potentially be sued for this if they HADN'T removed the logos, because leaving them visible would be trademark infringement. From a legal perspective, if the trademarked logos were visible, then their presence in formal marketing materials would imply that Tesla officially approved/supported this project and these marketing materials, which would of course only be okay if that were the case. (For that matter, they *could* have gotten an official go-ahead for all we know!) As it is, the car itself is probably owned by Bosch, in which case they can drive it around and film it as much as they like, regardless of Tesla's official opinion on the matter-- the only legal restriction is on official marketing materials, and even that only applies to actual trademarks like the Tesla logo.

[@bW9taeH4]

zlozlozlo I don't see why people assume that Tesla doesn't know. Bosch and Tesla certainly work together. Tesla uses Bosch parts. Bosch has specific engineers whose entire jobs are working on Tesla-specific components. I don't think Bosch would put together something like this without going through appropriate channels. I also don't see why anybody thinks that Tesla should object. Bosch isn't selling this car. They are designing components for automation. They've already designed the brake booster in the current Model S so it can do just what this video showed: brake when necessary to control speed, or come to a full stop when traffic does. If people are looking to get a car with this sort of automation, and people see a Model S, that doesn't hurt Tesla. It helps them. The car has to be debadged because they don't want to give the impression that the Model S does these things.

[@PRASANTHVP]

wow

[@sickre]

You would get super carsick doing most of that. Also, why even bother owning a car? Just call it up from a pool a vehicles, then you don't need to worry (as much) about parking or all the other hassles of car ownership.

[@MadMaxx63]

I'll never see this trickle down to a car, the middle class can afford, in my lifetime. If you could afford one of these...then you can probably afford a driver to haul you around.

[@AhmadAboulFarag]

I find that this is absolutely impractical...I wouldn't hand my life to an automated car ever to look at my phone...what if someone suddenly crosses the road ..will the car avoid or will it stop causing a chain reaction of car accidents...will the car respond to pot holes, animals, low flying birds...falling trees...yes it happened to me once...plus...driving was the only time I can tell my manager...I am driving...:D I cannot text and drive...let me be for a few minutes :D

[@hares295]

I'd rather keep that system for driving and nothing else. I don't see the part with using your apps or browsing your mail as safe, not at all....

[@asdf30111]

Szucs Stefan A computer is far far far faster then you if any thing it is much safer.

[@hares295]

its not me or that computer. Its that not every user is aware of risk that involve opening suspicious email or downloading unsecure apps. Just look at how nowadays we got anti virus software even for smartphones. You connect that vehicle to the internet, i recon that someone is going to crash it because of a virus. How about that ?

[@nlpnt]

Forget about automated driving for new cars, they're all too "sporty". Just build a system that can be retrofitted to a 1960s-1980s big American car with bench seats and a floaty suspension.

[@DanFrederiksen]

There will be none of this interaction. The car will just drive and that's that.

[@RuFiOPx]

make a flying car already

[@nymetswinws]

How will this car respond to someone flying up on your rear or multiple cars merging into you or multiple cars in multiple lanes breaking hard? Why can't people just drive their fucking cars and not do something else?

[@Lquad71]

Does this car happen to know what to do when I get a tire that blows out? What about that massive pothole in the freeway that I know about and avoid everyday so I don't have square rims? Can it see the asshole that ran the red light that is about to T-bone me? Because I may be able to see it and slam on the brakes or pin it to avoid that. These seem like basic questions that I'm sure they have asked themselves, but until I know how they will handle some inevitable situations that will occur, I would like to keep my life in my own hands.

[@boschmobility]

Logan Datin The vehicle will determine a loss of tire pressure before you will notice it. These kind of systems are already available today and are mandatory in some countries. Pot holes or other obstacles like speed bumpers can be detected by using stereo video camera technology. The greatest challenge in the development of automated functions is still inner-city traffic, where an extremely wide range of road users must be considered from all directions. Vehicle-to-vehicle communication could help to avoid crashes at crossings or intersections.

[@Lquad71]

Thanks for the reply. I'm actually very impressed with the technology and how far it has come. I guess I'm one of the ignorant ones that just doesn't understand how it all works, which makes me not trust it. Ensuring safety and a good track record in a variety of conditions over time will help people like me gain it's trust. Either way, I still enjoy driving just to drive, I hope that I'm still able to do that in 10+ years.

[@gjg5789]

Terrible idea. Think about it, how often does your computer/phone crash or have an error? One error in this instance could mean bodily harm or death.

[@e57alex88]

Tesla

[@Panthers1521]

Interesting how they are saying its ok to look away and watch videos. Seems like a huge liability if something happens

[@MrHapsika]

This is actually a Tesla model S, and the Tesla writing can be read on the back of the car in this video. But, the fact is that most people will not let their cars drive itself. Mankind won't trust machines when life is at stake.

[@CooperCarr]

If you don't want to drive your car it just means you have a boring car.

[@Petr75661]

Cooper Carr or a boring traffic jam.

[@procrastinator7408]

Cooper Carr Or it's a boring drive. I don't want to drive any car, driving does nothing for me it's just a way to get from A to B. If I can get rid of driving completely I'm all for it.

[@furiousbicuspid1053]

lame and creepy. Just drive the car man...

[@shubham2732]

so Driving Experience kill by automation(He has a very good car why not he drive).

[@Texagfan12]

dilip gojya you don't have to use it if you don't want