End of an Era: Toledo's Signal Bridges & Southern 8099

[@user-lh6gv5of1r]

It's great to see photos of my hometown Toledo Ohio.

[@mattstough3614]

I'll miss those old NYC signals. I still remember sitting on my grandpa's neighboors porch watching CR fly through Oakdale Ave. I remember when Vickers still had crossings and NYC signals and seing some ex-PC cars. Those were the days.

[@damienangelo1229]

Pro tip: watch movies at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching loads of movies these days.

[@talonkellen3043]

@Damien Angelo yea, I've been using flixzone} for since december myself =)

[@martineric6894]

@Damien Angelo definitely, been using flixzone} for since november myself :D

[@ronniewatkins]

Loved seeing the old SR colors going down the line!!!

[@asd36f]

The twilight footage is stunning.

[@CentralPennRailProductions]

Nice video, great documentation of the last days of those signal bridges. Not sure what happened to the comment I left 4 months ago, but I will come back, again and again to watch this, as I already have. Good work Drayton!

[@RailfanMax]

Wow, it must've taken lots of time to make this and all of your other videos. They are truly, one of a kind. Nice catches!

[@StarTard8]

Love this video! Fanning in Northwestern Ohio is GREAT! 70 MPH clears almost 24/7, great scenery, strait track as far as the eye can see, it's WONDERFUL!

[@codysauder1591]

Glad you caught some in Archbold Ohio, my hometown

[@CyberLord5G]

Seen Southern 8099 yesterday in Lackawanna NY. Snapped a pic and video.

[@bekleidungu.ausrustung7068]

Great video!! Expertly done!

[@jacksonslaterelevatorraila6444]

perfect and awesome all the way around Happy Rail Fanning

[@lawrencekeesler7369]

Your style and high quality of photography are among the best! With signal bridges disappearing along with other wayside signaling, I'm begging rail photographers to stay a few seconds longer on a scene that contains a green signal just about to turn red as the train enters the circuit. So many, many times the scene shifts just before the signal changes. Just a few more seconds, please, before changing the zoom, angle or panning wiping out the change. Or am I the only one interested in this soon-to-be absent feature?

[@BessemerLakeErie902]

+Lawrence Keesler Why would it be absent?

[@b3j8]

This line has always been one of my favorites! Sure wish I could go back in time to the mid-1940's and watch the action when steam was in every-day svc!

[@seniorbiscut]

A 5 star video and keep up the great work on your pages

[@DelayInBlockProductions]

Thank you!

[@RochelleXing]

Very nicely done!

[@NS8010]

Great Video! I was down the line in Oak Harbor Ohio when you were in Archbold. seen the exact 24Z with horn show and 20E with the BNSF's! Thanks For sharing this, earned a sub from me!

[@jimlasterni7310]

very much I enjoy your videos I love the New York Central and had been over that line on the Lake Shore Limited I had the privilege in the 50s and 60s to see the New York Central as it came into St Louis from Hillsboro Illinois if you were ever around there maybe get a video of that line keep up the good job

[@Michiganrailfan]

Last Friday I was in Toledo at Holland Sylvania and Reynolds road. They put in the some brand new signals

[@Michiganrailfan]

Very cool video I seen 8099 in Maumee Ohio!

[@MrFedemucci]

Excelent video, nice images!!! It so interesting! Congrats and best regards from Buenos Aires, Argentina.

[@MrCsx8888]

I loved this video

[@gunnyusmc8412]

Really enjoy your videos sir

[@johngowler3436]

a very nice video indeed!

[@CentralPennRailProductions]

"With new technical innovations...a computerized future...Norfolk Southern has made a cost effective move...old unreliable equipment will no longer be an issue for NS, adding to the railroad's great reputation for efficiency" Well, I hear that auto-router isn't working out so good for them, nice waste of 67 million dollars. More computers, more problems...

[@NS3210]

Glad to see someone that finally agrees with me.

[@GordonTurnerpark]

I hate Skynet. I have never sat so long in my life. They couldn't even get Amtrash through.

[@GordonTurnerpark]

***** While I do agree with you concerning your comment that some people will fight change, auto router has caused a large problem. At the height of the mess they were stopping Amtrak in Toledo and busing them to Chicago because nothing could get through. It has gotten better, but months later and auto router is still messing up the railroad. Dispatchers openly complain about it over the radio. I have had more signals drop than at any other time since they implemented that program. Some threats about moving business off our rail have been made. Added to that is that their big investment in Bellevue turned out to be a mess. There is one train symbol they keep running back and forth. It is a train they can't hump and instead just send east and west. It gets to its destination and they drop the marker, run the power around to the other end and send it back. At one point I was on a west bound and an east bound with the same symbol passed us. I got to my destination and they called me for the same train going home again. They are re-routing many trains they can't hump in Bellevue and instead flat switching them else where.

[@thetrainguy1]

+GordonTurnerpark I have heard from multiple people that the auto router is forcing business to jump to CSX. UPS and FedEx are great examples, they need their trains to be on time but the Auto Router may put the UPS train in a siding and run a coal drag around it. It doesn't make sense, but knowing NS they won't change until something drastic has to happen.

[@GordonTurnerpark]

thetrainguy1 That is true that business has threatened to pull the plug. It has gotten a little better. I had a 6 1/2 trip on a UPS train yesterday in the long pool. We are still having the problems with signals dropping, but it wasn't as bad as it was last fall. I still have almost 10 hours limbo time this month because of outlawing.

[@FastFlyingVirginian]

Well done sir!

[@DelayInBlockProductions]

Thanks, Dave! :)

[@NVRAMboi]

They're real and they're spectacular.

[@mittenrails]

31:40 is Southern btw. WHy does it have a K under the number?

[@algorithm1193]

It would be great to see some of these donated to a railroad museum or something. If only those signals could talk, they have bared witness to some of this nation's greatest passenger trains...

[@Amtrakfan2115]

notice the Ex Amtrak Boxcar at 24:07

[@mrvontrips]

Why wouldn't they replace the signals themselves and keep the signal bridges?

[@SynchroScore]

Well, at Vickers, the old signals were obscured by a newly-built bridge, so they had to be relocated.

[@SynchroScore]

15:50 Interesting. you have grade crossing signals, but no grade crossing.

[@Joeybagofdonuts76]

Speaking of the Toledo to Columbus, as a rail fan how intrested do you think other fans would be to see CSX 4389 heading a southbound on 5/15/2021? (Formerly the 8888, on the 20 year anniversary of the "crazy 8s incident"

[@redbrobster]

There is a semaphore signal just outside of downtown Kalamazoo, MI.

[@scottm6227]

i bet at every crossing along that 80 mile stretch has lighted signal crossings because the speed of the trains

[@michael7423]

I hope NS takes care taking down the signals and donates them to a worthy museum, to me they are a historic treasure and should be treated as such!

[@DelayInBlockProductions]

These signals are looooong gone. Scrapped about five years ago.

[@michael7423]

Delay In Block Productions / I feel so stupid, I didn’t realize this was uploaded in 2014. I’ll blame it on to many sleepless nights due to covid19, I’ve been binging on my favorite KZbin channels while on lockdown for three weeks now! God bless you and your work!!!

[@BNSF798]

Just a little advice: If you didn't already know, that line is NS's Dearborn District.

[@DelayInBlockProductions]

I am very aware. However, the Dearborn Division is also in Michigan as well. Hence, this is the Chicago Line or "Water Level Route" and in Michigan, its known as the Michigan Line.

[@GordonTurnerpark]

Delay In Block Productions Funny that he corrected you. As you stated it is the Dearborn "Division", not Dearborn "District".

[@GordonTurnerpark]

That diamond isn't located at Vickers. Vickers is farther west.

[@MrMikeydown]

I was wondering if you have been back to the toledo area since this was shot?? I used to live just down the road from the vickers block and worked for penn central and then conrail for a while.

[@slaflamme88]

Any clue as to why the train 17M at 7:05 had six locomotives? I am a novice on the subject of trains, so I apologize if this is a silly question. But I have often wondered why some trains have one locomotive, some have two, three or four, and often some have one locomotive at the rear of the train. Any thoughts? I really enjoy your videos!

[@sodakrailroadproductions8561]

steve laflamme It all depends on the weight behind the engines. It is simple: the more cars and weight behind the engine(s), the more power required at the front of the train. Also, locomotives usually have four axles (8 wheels), or six axles (12 wheels). Six axle locomotives have more points of contact and more wheels, so they can pull more, even if they have less horsepower than a similar four axle locomotive. For example, A train that would need 6 four axle locomotives with 3000 horsepower would only need three six axle units with the same amount of horsepower. Hope this helps!

[@thetrainguy1]

+Milwaukee Road E75 And sometimes they are just in tow. Going for the ride to be inspected when they get Enola.

[@nathanwiniarski8590]

And sometimes it's for braking power.

[@jordanwilkison8827]

Dalay in Block productions you got any dvds?

[@railfancannon9321]

Is this train in a museum the ups engines and great video to of that heritage unit

[@JOINTBAW]

can u do an documentry on todays deisal locomotives and the horse power

[@mikeday62]

Nicely produced with very informative narration. Makes it difficult to leave my usual stupid comments.

[@NHCX]

man NS 8099 and lots of fallen flag rollingstock wow

[@waltonwayaugusta]

GREAT

[@ahgfl007]

Don't be surprised if NS isn't bought out by CN or CP because they have an active bid for the railroad.

[@mattstough3614]

+ahgfl007 If any railroad is going to be bought by either of those railroads it's CSX, CP already is trying to merge with CSX.

[@rileyhogan8248]

1:03 Southern coveredhopper

[@vicreece8681]

Rookie watcher question; why would two different companies, NS and BNSF, run two different engines together on the same train? Ive always wondered that question and always meant to ask it on a video that had it on there

[@BessemerLakeErie902]

+Vic Reece A lot of it is run through power from one railroad to another. Also, Railroads can borrow engines from one another.

[@vicreece8681]

Another question then; what is run through power?

[@BessemerLakeErie902]

+Vic Reece Here is an example. A BNSF crude oil train is bound for New York City. The train then goes to Chicago to get handed over to NS. Instead of wasting time on switching the locomotives, they just leave the BNSF locomotives on the train but have NS crews. These same engines will then take the empty back haul of the train back West. They then are back on their home rails. I hope this helped and if you have any more questions, please tell them to me.

[@vicreece8681]

Thank you for the help on this

[@BessemerLakeErie902]

+Vic Reece You're welcome'

[@alexdiaz4875]

A huge power move on manifest train from the fifth train

[@RailPreserver2K]

hey i'm building a tiny peace of railroad track from bits and peaces of earlier railroads that are abandoned but still have the old method of building railroads (and i mean the jointed rail and not the welded rail ) i'll be doing a video once its complete

[@ricoisrael880]

GOOD VIDEO AMIGO,??

[@DieselElevators]

I hate the new signals. The NYC bridges here are being replaced soon, trying to get a lot of video. These ones are searchlights on the bridges.

[@b5sg1]

as of 8-8-14 two of the four signal bridges are now gone

[@GenXRailMedia]

Pure CR audio at 28:42

[@psknut]

One thing, CSX's line between Laurel Hill NC and Wilmington is the longest tangent of straight track in the USA. I enjoy your videos. Keep up the excellent work!

[@DelayInBlockProductions]

www.remarkableohio.org/HistoricalMarker.aspx?historicalMarkerId=840&fileId=109433

[@psknut]

Delay In Block Productions www.railserve.com/stats_records/highest_steepest_railroads.html. This lists the line in NC as the longest straight track in the USA. It also lists a 297 mile stretch in Australia as the longest in the world. I think the Water Level Route is the longest straight double track section. I know for sure the CSX line in NC is single track and always has been.

[@DelayInBlockProductions]

Shane Miller Very interesting. I learned something! :)

[@TheGonzo1960]

Well Dun-I think it's nice win you narrate

[@thegamingrhino5864]

22:37 In 2084, there going to be replacing signals and be like, "This is the old Darth Vader type signals, rail fans will be sad they are gone, but change in always certain

[@christiancasas9871]

CA and I am not a problem

[@moosedyer5189]

Yrc Roadway Yellow trailers I drive them into NS 63rd Street Chicago

[@TH-jt8eb]

This looks like a professional documentary. The constant bell/whistle noise in most segments ruined it for me.

[@niktesla8691]

I don't get the graffiti on the cars. It's not art. It's vandalism.

[@trainboylittle250]

No not really everybody think it’s cool to put graffiti on trains so people can see it

[@ACs_Trains]

@@trainboylittle250 Well not me that's for sure.

[@SynchroScore]

Some of it is neat. I once saw Beavis and Butthead rolling by.

[@waltonwayaugusta]

80 MILES SOUNDS LIKE THE FLAT LINES OF NEBRASKA

[@technobladev3334]

hi

[@martihill3611]

Why is it called a manifest?

[@7kslair153]

It picks up cars enroute to the final destination, so it's manifesting itself as it goes along.

[@skinnymule2]

On 14Q that SD40-2 wasn't a hi hood .

[@DelayInBlockProductions]

I know, that's why I said it was a FORMER Southern Railway High Hood.

[@cvanthull]

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[@GordonTurnerpark]

You didn't mention how parts of the Interstate Commerce and Hepburn Acts hurt railroads in the 1960's and 70's. The feds froze freight prices and required railroads to jump through bureaucratic hoops to adjust prices based on market forces. They required railroads to run passenger service even though it cost them money. It sounds like you put all the blame on corruption and leave the government completely out of it, but they were also to blame. What about the taxes levied on railroads for infrastructure they owned and maintained while other forms of transportation used public infrastructure for free? That was one of the big reasons so many tracks were pulled up during that time. Government meddling is one big reason the railroads went belly up. I find it troubling that through legislation and then failure to act, the government caused the bankruptcy of private corporations and then seized those corporations and reformed then under Conrail.

[@DelayInBlockProductions]

Yes, there was a lot of other issues going on at the time that created the chaos known as merger frenzy. However, there is only so much I can cover in such a short video.

[@GordonTurnerpark]

Delay In Block Productions A good point. I was polarized about the topic after having a discussion with a coworker the day before.

[@Danvers97]

Delay In Block Productions who was the girl at 28:18?

[@DelayInBlockProductions]

My former lady friend.

[@Danvers97]

Delay In Block Productions oh... shes kind of pretty .

[@thegamingrhino5864]

moar histoary

[@Sofaoffiziell]

srysl: a woman whatching trains passing by?! Wow...