End the iPhone Upgrade Cycle!

[@WilliamCooper2005]

I'm still using an Iphone 4s, I had a 6s but about a year ago the battery went terrible and I was going to get a new phone, but i realised that i could live without a great phone. I only really use a phone as a phone and use a few apps, and i realised that i could do everything i need on my old 4s and my computer. I have found that it's actually quite good as it stops me from being addicted to my phone as it is really slow. I also drive a 22 year old truck so i am completely on board with your anti upgrade message!!

[@techno_eclipse]

That’s awesome!! Man a 4s that’s a relic in phone terms! I also love the idea of downgrading phone to stop using it. I did that with an iPhone se with a cracked screen not too long ago, and now I have a really strong handle on how much I use my phone!

[@WilliamCooper2005]

@@techno_eclipse Yes, I know I will have to upgrade eventually as more and more apps won't work; but for now I can think of better ways to spend (or save/invest) my money!

[@WilliamCooper2005]

ABC Abc yeah, that’s a tricky one as the screen will probably cost as much as your phone is worth! I think the question is: 1) was your SE doing everything you needed it to? 2) how much longer will it do everything you need it to? 3) can you afford to upgrade without too much of a financial hit? I would suggest as the SE is 4 years old, it has not much more support left, so i would consider upgrading. However, i would say get something a generation or two behind, and buy it not on credit but in full. Perhaps even a new SE, or a cheap android. As with that you should get 5 or so years support.

[@rrrglynn]

You won’t be able to use the 4S much longer. All the carriers are shutting off 3G.

[@astrobro7322]

what’s wrong with u ppl

[@grafxdesigner93]

I never got caught up in the cycle. I signed up for a contract to purchase a phone ONCE. It was with Sprint cause I got a Motorola Razr at the time. After that one time, I never signed another contract again. I used that Motorola Razr til I could no longer use it. After that, I bought my first iPhone 5S refurbished and went straight to prepaid. Just upgraded from a 6S to XS two months ago and only paid $575 for a brand new XS. Installed my sim card and kept it moving. I am not planning buying another smartphone in about 6 to 8 years if that long. Smartphones have gotten way over the top with the pricing and all. I'm good. Oh great message in the video.

[@techno_eclipse]

That is awesome!! 575 for a phone that one year old that was $1000 last year.... I love it congrats! I love trying to push my phone as long as I can, hoping to get another 2 years out of this one, maybe more depending on battery!

[@grafxdesigner93]

@@techno_eclipse My thoughts exactly. The only issue I am concerned about is the battery. Since it is still brand new, battery is awesome. So I am good with taking care of my stuffs. Definitely, I will get a lot of use out this XS for sure. Oh I got my XS from eBay. It was right at the beginning of the pandemic. Just so happened to find a XS at that price. I contacted the seller on eBay and asked why the "low price" if the phones refurbished and posted on eBay as "new"? The seller responded and said the pandemic have hurt a lot of businesses and people can't work. So he lowered the price so he can move the inventory. What won me over is when ended the email with this: JUST IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING IF THESE PHONES ARE NEW? YES THEY ARE. BRAND SPANKING NEW! I purchased the next day and got it delivered within two days via FedEx. I was blown away. I am glad that I got it when I did.

[@CS-pg4go]

@@grafxdesigner93 get a battery case! I love using the apple battery case it's so convenient

[@grafxdesigner93]

@@CS-pg4go I did thought about purchasing one.Now that you had mentioned it, I am going to look into getting one ASAP.

[@CS-pg4go]

@@grafxdesigner93 If you dont wanna pay for brand new, Amazon is selling renewed for 80 bucks and Best buy refurbished for 89 bucks!

[@davidhepworth3956]

I never buy anything on a lease. I've had my iPhone 8 Plus for nearly 3 years like you and it's still working fine. In September, I'll probably sell it and buy whatever the newest cheapest iPhone is probably the cheapest iPhone 12, pay for it in full and keep it another 3 years. That's the same with anything I buy and that's how I've been brought up. Don't spend money what you don't have.

[@techno_eclipse]

Totally agree!! I can’t stand consumer debt, so meaningless

[@Jane_Moss]

This is such an important message. I am at the end of my car lease and am going to buy it out in cash and stop this cycle. In addition I actually love older phones. I love to see how long I can use it before it’s unusable. Plus phones have gotten so crazy with features wayyyyy beyond what we need.

[@techno_eclipse]

I totally agree! I made a leasing mistake as well but I’m going to buy it out, fits well within my budget and is a really nice and reliable car!! I love ending the cycle!

[@patrickcarino1897]

thanks for your videos,I’ve finally convinced my self that i’m still good with my iphone8..probably gonna spend that extra cash on something else,rather than having a new phone that will do the same old task that my current phone does..thanks men,new sub here..

[@hussinagily]

Nice tutorial brother, keep going

[@datalaforge]

I’m on the original SE and just pulled up youtube to research my next phone. Funny how I ran into this vid first.

[@danielsotheraccount2622]

1:33 - The battery on an iPhone is one of the cheapest parts to replace, so that does contribute to why some people dont replace their phones for a long time.

[@PolarBlairTech]

I would love it if more creators made videos like this. I’m trying to pay down debt, but I’m also the type of person that upgrades their phone often. I’m trying to figure out if it’s a good idea even if I could pay for a new phone outright. My frugal side and my fun side are fighting.

[@DIYKIA]

I think we are programmed to upgrade every 2 years. Even now with phone payment plans, most carriers as well as apple spread those payments over a 2 year timeframe. My wife's and my phone are about $100 from being paid off and the feeling upgrade fever is very real. Her phone completely died earlier this week and instead buying a new phone we are getting fixed because we still have about 2.5 months of AppleCare left. It takes discipline to pull yourself out of consumerism and keeping things until they don't work anymore. Especially when everyone around us is buying new phones, vehicles etc. Thanks for another video and keep up the great work!

[@techno_eclipse]

Exactly!!! We are programmed to constantly be upgrading, when we all know that most of the time (barring a phone breaking) we are just doing it becuase we want something new and shiny!! Congrats on beating the upgrade cycle

[@fredproducts3187]

I'm still using an Iphone 4s, I had a 6s but about a year ago the battery went terrible and I was going to get a new phone, but i realised that i could live without a great phone. I only really use a phone as a phone and use a few apps, and i realised that i could do everything i need on my old 4s and my computer. I have found that it's actually quite good as it stops me from being addicted to my phone as it is really slow. I also drive a 22 year old truck so i am completely on board with your anti upgrade message!!

[@harry6083]

I just got the iPhone 11 a week ago. Going to use it until it breaks and unusable where the battery cannot be replaced and the operating is not upgradable. Paid full $700 for this 128 Gig puppy. Hopefully it lasts me for years.

[@acos7a953]

Your videos are something else! Keep it up

[@techno_eclipse]

Thank you!

[@NorthlanderMN]

I've got an S9. The rest of my family has Apple. Im always the first to find what ever in a pinch. My S9 still rocks.

[@RobertoAngelFloresAngulo]

I agree. I used an iPhone 4 for 7 years, then gave it to my son. And he is still using it. Only once i had to replace its battery. Sometimes i wish i could get it back.

[@freetris9556]

I had an iPhone 3GS for way too long. Had to upgrade to 12 for 4g and 5G. It was free with monthly installments which is cheaper than buying it outright. I will keep my phone after that which I am ok with.

[@alykat_23]

iPhones now are getting too expensive for most people to warrant an upgrade every year. As long as the phone is holding a charge , still getting updates, and not broken most people don’t see the point in upgrading

[@anthonystebbins6289]

I pretty much have broken my cycle. Now I do the cheap pixel phones when mine feel older. I don't want to pay anymore than 500 for it. Thankfully the pixels go on sale pretty often.

[@notmadhur]

Money saved is money earned 🤘🏻

[@melo1223]

Hello! I learned a lot from your videos. My husband and I have not been very good with money but we’re trying to get better. Well, I am, he hasn’t really started to see things this way but that’s my question. How do you and your spouse get into agreement about spending and not spending? We’re always kind of opposite in this. He likes to get all the upgrades, I don’t mind keeping my old stuff and I gotta be honest, because he gets new stuff I get tempted and usually give in 😅

[@techno_eclipse]

What I did was asked my wife, will you read one book for me and keep an open mind about it? Since she loves me and trusts me she said yes, that book was Dave Ramsey’s total money makeover. I think the idea of not upgrading sucks, but if you can figure out the reason you are doing it, the end goal, it makes it far easier to do. A relationship either makes it way easier or way harder haha, so I would suggest an audio book, because reading to me can sometimes feel intimidating, but anybody can listen to a book, which is what my wife and I did! Hopefully this helps! Remember it’s about doing what’s right for you tomorrow and not what feels good in the moment!

[@melo1223]

I will check that out! I will start by showing my spouse this video but I think it’s better for us to watch it together even though I already saw it. Let’s see how it goes, thank you!

[@techno_eclipse]

Rooting for you! My wife and I always talk about our dreams and goals and then we talk about how we can get there, it’s not an easy path but it’s worth going through!

[@RyanBeneby]

Thank you for this reminder

[@PopRox]

People gotta just think that you’re broke af and then you won’t buy anything else once everything is paid off 😭😭 *tapping head gif*

[@techno_eclipse]

Haha so true, if you live like you’re broke, one day you’ll be so wealthy that you can actually help people who need it as well!

[@TheKingAmeer]

I'm thinking of joining the upgrade program this September when the iPhone 15 comes out I'm going to get the entry level iPhone since I don't see a difference with the pro and I only use one card for everything so I have around $300 to redeem so I'm going to use it toward the apple program since its somewhat cheaper for me since I use one card for everything. It's basically like leasing a car once the term is up you return it. But I'll make sure to put the iPhone to use they might get it back with 80% battery health 😂

[@d1fferen7]

I was using my original iPhone SE, which I purchased back in 2018. Its display shattered and it's unusable. I got a Pocophone F3 and I might keep it for a good few years (4-5) to see how long it can last me. I don't like changing phones (or stuff in general) every so often. If I like something, I keep it and use it for as long as I can. I've always wondered why would someone who, let's say, owns an iPhone 13 Pro would go for the iPhone 14 Pro? It makes no sense. In this year's event, they even compared the iPhone 14 Pro / Pro Max (A16 Bionic) to the iPhone 11 (A13 Bionic) because there isn't much of a difference in the processing power between the iPhone 13 Pro / Pro Max and 14 Pro / Pro Max [and they had to show some differences, that's why they chose an even older model]. Yikes.

[@jasonattal4465]

I bought cash my iPhone 11 Pro because my old iPhone 6 Plus died. Every 2 years, I replace the battery :) that’s all. For my car, I used Location avec Option d’Achat, that means I pay 200€ monthly for 3 years, then I have enough money to buy the rest of the car cash :)

[@techno_eclipse]

That’s awesome!! Owning a car that quickly is great! I made a little mistake in leasing a car, but I’ll be purchasing it with cash in the next few months! Then proceeding to ride that to 200k miles or more!!

[@juliewalters245]

I have to agree with this! I have an iPhone 12 mini and all I had to do was get a new battery and it works perfectly fine for my needs! No need to upgrade anymore! I’m happy with it now and that’s all that matters and it works well for me! I’m on a budget and I got mine for a really great price deal! So it’s basically the same iPhone as others but it’s ok for me! I used to buy phones constantly but now I’m not doing that anymore because it gets expensive and there’s no reason why I have to upgrade anymore because it’s works why bother spending money on something I don’t need right now?! So I totally agree and I’m still learning about my budget so far so good!😊 👌

[@techno_eclipse]

I have a 12 mini and absolutely love it! Still has many years of use left on it

[@callmeNeno]

Nice haircut duded; Nice to hear you talking Tech baby!!

[@thenessh2807]

What if i wanna buy new stuff after finishing all payment n keep the old thing too😅

[@NeutralEyes2367]

In November this year I will have my j7 pro for 3 years now I'm not upgrading until it breaks

[@techno_eclipse]

That’s awesome!!

[@datalaforge]

Yoooo, that haircut is fresh!

[@techno_eclipse]

Haha it’s the shortest it’s been in 6 years 😂😂😂

[@bhavdeeprehal8827]

You make some really strong points. One thing, if you do know to save money with tax write offs (providing you can and are able to do so) that can sometimes save you money as well despite leasing; could be cheaper than owning. I think a good rule of thumb is if you are leasing something (phone, computer, car) you should always be able to purchase it outright...in other words, be able to afford it. If not, then your video is 100% “on the money”, pun intended. Cheers!

[@verticalhd4517]

good job scott i understand your reason why upgrade your phone and pay 1000$ or more. if you buy a phone thats 1-3 years old and the price could be like a half the price of the new phone or even lower

[@NikoPlays_MC]

When I upgrade I downgrade as I get older phones when I decide to get one

[@PrashantSaikia]

This is a top message, in my opinion, specially for younger people. Almost all my stuff over the last 5-6 years (2-3 laptops, 4-5 phones, 5-6 cameras, 3-4 guitars and various other stuff like table, chairs, bed frame, etc) have been used, or second hand. People have a stigma, a taboo, against using used goods. I guess some (most?) of it comes from the fact that there are a lot of shady people out there who want to rip you off. But all it takes is a bit of research on your end to figure out which products are rip-offs and which ones are not. Out of all my second hand purchases so far, I think I got only one iPhone which was kind of a rip-off, in that the display went bad within 3 months of buying it. But that too was most likely incidental, and was definitely not something the seller was aware of, as I used the phone with no problems for 3 months. But besides that fear of getting ripped off due to lack of experience in dealing with used goods, I feel like the bigger reason for the stigma against used goods is vanity. "I don't use second hand stuff, lol" - that attitude. And I don't understand why. Because clearly, the smart thing to do is to use used goods, as you're saving a ton of money and getting 80-90% of the functionality, if not more, of the latest and greatest stuff that's released. And then you can sell it for not much less than you bought it for, when you want to replace it with a newer, better product. It's about the cost of ownership (= buying price - selling price) of stuff, and obviously as soon as you buy something brand new, and walk out of the store, it's value is reduced by 30-40%. But I guess common sense is not so common. Oh well...

[@techno_eclipse]

I subscribe by the saying of “you make or lose money when you buy, not when you sell” I do that with everything, car, iphone, laptop, etc. people are so concerned with used that they cripple themselves financially in order to buy new. But guess what? After one use that new product is used hahaha. So you brought a new phone to use it new 1 time and now it’s perpetually used lol

[@yewtubemike]

Smartphones typically don't last longer than 2-3 years, you will not receive security updates that is very dangerous especially if you do banking on your phone. The only exception is iPhone which get updates for 5+ years.

[@samirmoghe1553]

I recommend that people with iphone 10 above need not upgrade to iphone 12 or iphone 12 pro max even if it has better high grade camera, as most people need camera only for selfies or family/friend photos, unless the iphone upgrade is a significant upgrade from below iphone 10 models. Since 5G network is being introduced for the 1st time it consumes more battery, if you can wait until next year September, the Iphone 13 and iphone 13 pro max would come with higher battery life and higher refresh rate of 120 hertz and that too if you really need the upgrade ,otherwise current models are also fine.

[@xwallinx]

id love a Tesla but it seems even a "cheap" one is like 50 thousand and not the 30k as advertised. and on top of that paying for software updates that are thousands$$!!$$ #omg / we just purchased our first home in march and it feels really good I never thought id be able to do that considering I filed ch 7 bankruptcy in 2017

[@JT81437]

I need to end that upgrading a new phone every two years.

[@JWOY-h5h]

The iPhone upgrade program is to always be paying into Apple every month that’s why they are worth what they are!

[@techno_eclipse]

Yeah, it’s a lease, alway paying, you never own anything, you just constantly pay forever.....

[@CS-pg4go]

I'm currently 22 and made a mistake of buying a car through car payments at 19 years old. My mom has the mindset of "just pay through payments monthly" and I eventually got the same mindset until I realized my mistake. My mom is an immigrant and doesn't really know how the American credit works. She just knows that a lot of Americans don't own their things because it's leased so she thinks it's normal to buy things leased. It's the American way she would say. I thankfully broke away from that thinking. You learn from your mistakes, sometimes expensive ones. Your channel has def helped me a lot. Been watching you for awhile now. Since then my credit score has reach 750 and I'm very excited about that!

[@techno_eclipse]

Congrats!! One day you’ll use so little debt that your credit score might hit zero!!! Because you never need debt to purchase anything!

[@CS-pg4go]

@@techno_eclipse haha thats the end goal! for now i still have student loans to pay and a car payment :) thank you for these videos.

[@tatersalad2067]

We never really own anything. Let’s say you buy a house and land and pay cash. Come into a rough part and can’t pay property taxes......

[@lukevirtualgameruk3523]

Not true phones don't last years. Save yourself the monthly money then just buy a phone you can afford. Also Nothing wrong with upgrading every year if your happy with it. . The apple lease seems like a huge con. Apple much be laughing at everyone, Here in the uk the lease for the apple 13 is around 44 a month which ends up to around 500. Then you give back the phone and take a new loan on the next lool the phone only cost 779 which is a much better deal as you get to keep it.

[@InsaneFire10YT]

I upgrade every 3-4 years to the previous generation And i pay in full and unlocked😇

[@iforgot4518]

Thank you for helping!

[@thangiowa9886]

Hi Scott. I just want to tell you that I watched almost all your videos. I really like them. Have a great day Take care. Thanks

[@bjoernschumacher5852]

sounds like "you will own nothing and you will be happy".....

[@vishizzy]

YEAH YOU DONT KEEP THE PHONE. THEY GET. A $1500 PHONE FOR $400

[@Tasha352]

I am surprised how come this guy dont have 100k followers.Like literally whatever he is talking right now do make sense .Probably 10 to 15% talk about real stuff and one of them is him . Man heads off to you .Doing incredible please keep uploading more content like these much needed .

[@LimitGTX]

Damn took me so long find this channel was searching topics i knew you covered in the past like buying used apple laptop and scrolling through tons results but no luck. I couldn't remember the name and nothing in my subscription list looked correct then outta no where i remembered it "Techno Eclipse" luckily typing that into youtube search still brought up this channel. Browsing the list of videos lots i saw your older stuff is gone which would explain why youtube didn't have search results for it. Seeing your new content is damn impressive with this new set and lighting, looks nothing like what i remember. Also was surprised when I saw you upgraded your arms lol. Clearly you put time in at the gym. The sunday night streams were also fun with you and your (then girlfriend) wife but i guess that isn't a thing anymore. Anyway i know my comment is very off topic so i'll stop there but great video and looking forward to see more =]

[@INDIGE_STUDIO]

You have been trained not I..lol silly consumers 😂

[@renatasr4570]

👍

[@naveenm1592]

Thanks from INDIAN CITIZEN,, Thank you "SCOTT",FOR MINIMALISTIC KNOWLEDGE...and GOOD BYE...

[@martingrant9005]

Well unfortunately in the uk we have 3 year contracts .

[@shamsarif8010]

Corona haircut

[@techno_eclipse]

Lol it’s too short for me, but ehh hair grows back 😂😂

[@strangedotmachine9281]

Work that debt snowball! 😀

[@techno_eclipse]

Absolutely!! How are you doing with that?! Hopefully still well!

[@strangedotmachine9281]

Scott Schroeder I’m hoping step two will be done by the end of the year. It’s going to be a push, but I think I can do it.

[@techno_eclipse]

Congrats! Mind if I ask how much you are about to pay off? My wife and I are half way through 59k, looking at March of 2021 to have it all paid off!!!

[@aerialogy6144]

Every iphone i bought stays for 4 years when a major update comes out they stop working with the same issue always (NO SERVICE) Folks, there is no way to get away from it especially with iphones! Be a good be, own an android

[@slickrick4129]

Theres a lot of misinformation in this video with this anti upgrading agenda. There’s nothing wrong with wanting the latest tech, especially if you can afford it. The upgrade program is just a way for you to get the newest phone without buying it at full price. If you like phone you have while on the program, then you can keep it and pay it off. The phone is yours to keep. Just bc you’re on the upgrade program, you’re not obligated to upgrade to newest phone. If you really think about it, the phone is 540$ bc you need a minimum of 12 months (45$/month) before upgrading. Which is a good if you plan on upgrading every year bc you want the new phone. That’s better than dropping 1000 on a new phone annually. I bought my 12 pro outright

[@tayjones8552]

Slick Rick, he's trying to get people out of the mindset of upgrading all the time when their current phone works just fine. The goal is to put your money elsewhere. If you keep renting, you'll never be able to save money. All phones work basically the same, so you're really not getting an upgrade.

[@fredproducts3187]

I'm still using an Iphone 4s, I had a 6s but about a year ago the battery went terrible and I was going to get a new phone, but i realised that i could live without a great phone. I only really use a phone as a phone and use a few apps, and i realised that i could do everything i need on my old 4s and my computer. I have found that it's actually quite good as it stops me from being addicted to my phone as it is really slow. I also drive a 22 year old truck so i am completely on board with your anti upgrade message!!