End Times and The Rapture - Dr Chip Bennett

[@drchipbennett]

To hear the message referenced in this teaching entitled "The Great Moving Away" please go here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKjcpn-bd9aNjJI

[@amarjitkaur9769]

I am happy to hear your explanation on end time and rapture. This does help me in what i always felt was how the Lord would like us understand. Thank you and God bless.

[@try2t.v887]

We will be given a celestial body, a glorious body, one incorruptible

[@amolgaikwad8940]

Greetings pastor from India This is pastor amol nonprofit and fulltime minister of the gospel living by faith and doing God's work in India I am very blessed to hear your words it gives me strength and encouragement. Thank you so much ❤️ Love and prayers ❤ 🙏

[@cristinaluna-vanvalkenburg2510]

Thanks, Dr. Bennett, for your succinct teaching on these passages. I pray it reaches people and pulls them out of false teachings.

[@kendrickmccomb4268]

I love your respect for the text. This was such a great break down of these passages. Thank you so much for it!

[@nathankneser70]

Solid teaching. Thank you!

[@judykurtz1]

Wonderful, love your teachings on Gods Word.

[@mikepool8691]

Thank you PC.... always excellent teaching!

[@drchipbennett]

You're welcome Mike!

[@mikepool8691]

Truly, as you always say, “The best is yet to come”! Thank you again, 💕Kathy and Mike

[@HolySpiritCome1]

Chip rocks.

[@drchipbennett]

Thanks Dave!

[@lisaclark621]

Thank you for taking the time to clarify some common misconceptions about the Second Coming of Christ. I feel blessed by this message!

[@drchipbennett]

Thanks for sharing! You are very welcome!

[@aaronjtodd6893]

@@drchipbennett why the title "Great moving away", What does that mean?

[@drchipbennett8326]

@@aaronjtodd6893 The first part of this sermon series explains it

[@thefamily75479]

Thank you for breaking this down in a way I can get it .

[@OMalleyKevin]

always refreshing to hear and see scripture being interpreted by scripture.. thank you, Pastor Chip

[@drchipbennett]

Thanks Kevin!

[@aprilshearer756]

I am doing a group Bible study on Revelation using Pastor David Jones from Bethel I found this so different and am confused. You make very good points but I'm confused because through prayer for discernment I haven't felt the current trend of the End Times is wrong. This video has given me a moment to pause and go into prayer

[@philbennett3995]

Though he says that this is not a "salvific" issue and the rapture doesn't threaten core NT claims, and you can "believe what you want", the behavior of amillenialists in practice is that they can't have real fellowship until you believe like they do even in these matters. He sounds gracious, but amils are very partial or what can be termed "theological partiality." "You can believe anything you want to but unless you believe the way I believe, even on these smaller issues, I do question your interpretation on other matters" is what comes through. They can be very judgmental and they may not be as right as they think they are. He presents the common arguments of the non-rapture position, at some places better than others. He's smooth at times, almost with the slick presentation of a car salesman when presenting one side of the issue while glossing over the deep arguments for the other position. Premillennial scholars are better students of all of the whole counsel of God's word, and don't cherry pick certain texts and insert generalities. There are some very layered reasons for the premillennial position that is sourced in a literal and grammatical interpretation of the text and premillennialism is not just "pop theology" as he says. To quote scholar Dwight Pentecost "literal interpretation allows for allegory" but words must mean what they say literally before one pivots into spiritualizing and the context usually indicates such. The underlying question in this debate is "how literal do want to be" in the whole counsel of Scripture? A literal 1000 millennial reign is mentioned several times in Revelation 20, and is the only interpretation that fits all of the unfilled OT testament prophesies given to the Jews, without spiritualizing the text and saying the church is Israel. The amillenial position holds that believers of the NT completely pick up where believers in the OT leave off. There is some translation of believers of the OT to believership in the NT (Galatians) , but it is Not a pure translation. Amillennialists also believe we are in the kingdom now. Yet this hell hole on earth, which will get worse, is completely defiled and rebellious to its Creator. God's church may be his kingdom on earth in pockets, but this world is not in subjection to its Creator at the moment. Amills don't distinguish too well between national and spiritual Israel. There is still a future left for Israel and Paul never left that position still calling himself an Israelite throughout his whole ministry. Here is another word that ruffles the feathers of amills. Paul said in Eph. 3 that the church was a mystery hidden for ages past where Jew and Gentile will be in fellowship together in a new "administration" for a period of time, in what is often translated a "dispensation." Yes the term used in the text that amillennialists despise is "dispensation." But it's not a scary or unbiblical concept- it simply means God administers kingdom values in a progression of ways and times- and the one were in now is the church age. We are all dispensationalists in that we are not under the law as a purported means of salvation, a distinct change ushered in by Christ. It may be debated how many dispensations there are, but there are at least three. With an Israelite future in mind because God's "gifts and call are irrevocable" (Rom 11:29), Paul is arguing from history in the Old Testament that Israel’s rejection wasn’t complete or total; God always had a remnant. And consistent with this intermediate age called the church age and age of grace, Paul in Romans 11 says in this period that Israel has experienced "a hardening." But He's not done with them or rejected Israel forever. As far as the 1 Thes. 4:13-18 passage, Chip seems to speak out of both sides of his mouth. For example, he emphasizes in v.16 that the "trumpet" and "loud command" are literal and public events. Yet all of a sudden he allegorizes v. 17 with an unwarranted expansion of the context, where "clouds" here now don't mean "clouds" because Paul had Daniel 7 in mind, and that the word "meet" often refers to the escort of a dignitary "into a city", not away from it. So v.16 is a plain sense primie facie reading of the text, but v.17 is not. The plain sense of v. 17 is Christ doesn't come all the way to the earth but only to the clouds, and we go to meet him upward-- there is no indication we stay here on earth from the text. The plain sense is that we are "snatched" away to be prevented from experiencing the "coming wrath" (2 Thes.) As John McArthur explains, if Christ came to the earth here and also at the 2nd coming, it would be an unnecessary trip. Also, the both Paul and Jesus used the term "thief in the night" to describe Jesus return, a completely unknown time when people were unexpecting it. Yet if Christ comes at the end of the tribulation (if indeed amils even hold to that) with all of the signs written about by Paul (after the antichrist) and the signs given by Jesus, as well as the judgments given in Revelation, how could his return be so unexpected? The only way his return could be completely unexpected like a thief in the night, and at any moment (doctrine of immanency) is with a rapture. Immanency is not a doctrine overly promulgated by amils and other strict reformed denominations. Some have called this "escapist" theology and we should experience the tribulation as amils believe. But isn't what salvation is to begin with? It's an escape from wrath from hell, and the hell on earth. Furthermore, the concept of a rapture is not unbiblical- there are several raptures of people taken in the OT directly to heaven. So the concept is very biblical and not reading into the text a foreign biblical notion. What people also don't understand is that amillennialism and Israel as the church is a Catholic holdover; this is Catholic theology which in the last 1000 years has been infused with humanism and pagan ideas. Amillennialism preceded this corruption with some church fathers holding to ammil, but the church fathers who developed the idea did so in a highly allegorized time of interpretation. In many respects, the doctrine of eschatology was the last and final product of the Reformation where the examination of the text with sound principles of hermeneutics was open more broadly to great minds, and unconcealed from the masses. It is true that Martin Luther, John Calvin and others roughly held to the amill of the Catholic church, but that's because the theology to be reformed was so extensive they didn't take as much time to examine this topic. And Martin Luther's antisemitism was just wrong when he despised the Jews as forever cursed for putting Christ to death. But I wonder how such a great mind could miss this was not Paul's attitude concerning his fellow Jews and would have died in his countrymen's place if he could (Rom. 9:3), and that God has not "rejected his people" (Rom 11:1) but still has a future for them exclusively to literally fulfill many unfulfilled OT prophecies. It's interesting that it's this amil camp today that doesn't see Israel as a nation again as a piece of the fulfillment puzzle today and don't seem to see theological benefit for supporting Israel- again a Catholic holdover. I could go on present so many more texts for the premill position, but there are so many great resources online about this.

[@inchristalone25]

Yes the correct understanding is this: “That day will not come until the rapture (Jewish catching away of believers in Messiah) comes first, and then the man of sin will be revealed…and now you know what is restraining him that he may be revealed at the right time…and he who restrains him will continue to do so until he is taken out of the way, then the man of sin will be revealed.” (II Thess. 2: 3-7) The word translated as 'falling away' in most bibles is ‘apostasia’ which at it's root meant a departure. The original use of the word described the act of a ship leaving port and ‘falling away’ out of site over the horizon as it departed.

[@logos37]

Love his teachings where is He in Los Angeles? I wish he was here

[@SpotterVideo]

What does an understanding of the New Covenant do to the Pretrib Rapture doctrine? Since the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20, how is the New Covenant Church age going to end seven years before the Second Coming of Christ? Why would anyone think God is going back to the Old Covenant system now made “obsolete” by the New Covenant in Hebrews 8:13? We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart, and the pretrib removal of the Church falls with it. The Capitol "C" Church, as we use the word today, is not found in the entire Book of Revelation. Individual church bodies in ancient Asia Minor are found. In Revelation 12:11 we find those under the blood of the Lamb. A person cannot be under the blood of the Lamb and not be a part of the New Covenant Church of Jesus Christ. Verse 12 of this passage proves at least part of the tribulation period is the wrath of Satan upon the people of God. Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. "It may come as a surprise to most pre-Trib prophecy students that the post-Trib position (in its primitive form) is the oldest point of view." (The quotation above is from the book "Will You Escape The Tribulation? RAPTURE [Under Attack]", by Tim LaHaye, copyright 1998, Page 197.) Tim LaHaye was co-author of the “Left Behind” books and movies which have convinced millions of modern Christians that the Church age ends seven years before the Second Coming of Christ. Recently, Pastor Matt Furse of Mountain View Baptist Church in Custer, S.D. has written a book titled “Which One Is Right?’, which reveals the recent history of the pretrib rapture doctrine, and the fact it does not agree with what is written in the King James Bible. The gathering of the Church is described at the end of 1 Thess. Chapter 4, and the timing of the event is found in chapter 5. The word “But” in the first verse of chapter 5 connects the two chapters, and the words “we” and “sleep” in verse 10 of chapter 5 prove the two chapters are connected. The Greek words for “wrath” and “tribulation” are not the same word, as proven by the verse below. Rev 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. Watch the KZbin video “Pretribulation Paradox” by former pretrib believer skydiver626.

[@paullittle9187]

The fact that there isn't as you say "full consensus" regarding eschatology troubles me.

[@luminoxx5150]

I’m confused. We will be here with Christ on earth in the tribulation period? There needs to be some clarification here.

[@kristenbuchanan7017]

What happens during the tribulation? It is not for the church, so what does the text really say? And what does it mean when Jesus comes back with His army to have the final battle with Satan? Tried to find the continuation of your teachings. So many questions and don’t know where to go to find the answers. Archived? Enjoyed this seminar. Thank you

[@m071185s]

Thanks for covering this. I’m still trying to process “caught up” and “meet.” It sounds like as we’re caught up or snatched, dead and living alike, into a new and eternal life, we are still only going to “meet” Jesus as a delegation during (in the middle of) his coming back to Earth... so we are with Jesus as we come back to “the city.” It feels like there is still a transition happening that we are a witness to. It sounds like we are coming back with Jesus as he brings the Heavens back to Earth. Am I understanding that properly? Does that escorting back to Earth have a name?

[@IndianaJoe0321]

The Parousia -- Jesus' Second Coming. Biblically, He only comes to Earth twice, not three times.

[@jabrianeross2423]

I think this is cool thank you for this . But how come everything is literal tho? Like is the moon turns to blood .. why and how come that isn’t literal ? Idk i enjoy your teaching and i think the beauty of the gospel is that we can ask questions to genuinely understand . So thanks i follow your TikTok i was on season 2 of a HBO max show called F boy island and we were talking about a lot of this stuff and i was teaching them

[@drchipbennett]

I started a whole study on Revelation that goes through each aspect in detail. I would encourage you to watch it. There is a playlist for it on my channel.

[@xrookie650]

Sir, generally speaking I really appreciate your high view of scripture and your instruction on reading and processing scripture through a first century Jewish world view. However, I am detecting a condescending attitude toward pre-tribulational believers when you refer to the rapture as a “secret” event. Being a sudden event is not the same as being a secret event. To ask the question as you do around minute 37 if 1 Thessalonians 4 mentions clothing being strewn about is ridiculous. Of course it doesn’t say that simply because it obviously doesn’t say that. I heard your disclaimer at the beginning of this video that we shouldn’t divide over this issue. I appreciate that and agree but your choice of wording is really painting the pre-trib view as new, simple minded, and basically ludicrous. There are absolutely excellent scholars on both sides of this issue, of which you are certainly one. I’m just asking you to chose your words about this issue a little more carefully. You say we shouldn’t divide over this but then you use inaccurate terms and caricatures to describe the pre-trib view.

[@emac543]

Dr. Bennett, I'm wondering if you have heard about the trumpet noises in the sky and what your thoughts are. My husband and I heard these sounds in the sky about 5 years ago and it was the most otherworldly, apocalyptic sound I have ever heard. We heard the sounds twice in one year, lasting for approximately ten minutes each time, if I recall it right. The sound is like a loud shofar blast across the entire sky. If it didn't come from above, I would have thought the earth was cracking, it was that loud. I put it out of my head, but with all that's going on in the world, I'm wondering if it could be one of the trumpet blasts referred to in Revelation. As far as I know, scientists have never been able to find the source. There is an Inside Edition piece covering it, I'll add that video. The news video seems to conflate several noises, a hum, a meteor and a trumpet. The noise I'm referring to only sounded like trumpet blasts, there was no humming. We heard this twice, in the same year, for about 10 minutes each time. The sound we heard is very much like the sounds 3 seconds into this Inside Edition video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKbPZYaPgZmEn7M I know it all sounds crazy, but with everything that is going on, I'm starting to rethink the sounds we heard.

[@lukewright01]

To make sure I got this correct; Christian’s who have died here on earth are asleep? In heaven with the lord but there bodies are asleep?

[@kendrickmccomb4268]

Is there a place I can get my hands on the rest of this teaching series?

[@aaronjtodd6893]

why the title "Great moving away"? What does that mean

[@kevinate9349]

So you told us how a lot of other peoples beliefs are wrong but you never actually talked about what we should expect before the return of Jesus.

[@ClarifyingChrist]

Is that a smart board or a touchscreen tv?

[@drchipbennett]

Hi Chris! It's a digital whiteboard. Link in description 😁

[@ClarifyingChrist]

@@drchipbennett It is awesome, I will check out the link. I bought a blackboard a while ago...looks great but is absolutely terrible when trying to film. It picks up every reflection possible!

[@darthjedi99]

Heaven and earth were separated by a firmament. Its not poetic language. Clouds mean clouds, how is that not understood? 1 Cor 15:52