ENDURO TECHNIQUES FOR ROCK FACES Cross Training Enduro

Huge thanks to bluemountainmot... who look after McNutt! Off to the world famous McNutt area today to ride some rocks, rock faces and rock slabs on the Beta Crosstrainer. When it comes to epic trails, rocks, tree roots and rock faces it's hard to go past McNutt. The perfect place to work on our dirt riding technique in rocky terrain with the Beta Xtrainer. #ridingrocks #rockyterrain #Betaxtrainer
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If you ride in rocks and tree roots often then a set of ultra heavy duty tubes should be your minimum, or get into the TUbliss setup or mousses for places like McNutt at Blue Mountain.
Rock slabs can be very intimidating even with a Beta Crosstrainer. These slabs have an uneven approach, they are both off camber and there's a slippery wet patch in the middle. Get as much momentum as possible on the run up, so you can coast up the rock slabs or tree roots and avoid wheelspin, even if it's a Beta Xtrainer with grippy tyres!
Stand if possible in the default position and crouch low to avoid wheelies on rock faces. Sitting makes it very easy to flip the bike and this will happen at places like McNutt at Blue Mountain.
Use throttle and clutch control to pick where to get traction and when to back off and avoid wheelspin in loose rocks and on rock faces.
Won't make it? Learn how to dismount and lay the Beta Crosstrainer down instead of that last ditch attempt with too much throttle on rock slabs or around tree roots.
Wheelie on to steeper rock faces then absorb the impact with your legs.
A good challenge is give yourself minimal run up, then get as much momentum as possible in a short distance for rock faces.
Get others to spot for you to reduce the risks when riding in rocks. And remember to jump in fast spottters, it all happens fast!
You can use kickers to hit a rock face faster, or get up a near vertical one with more safety, a handy skill at places like McNutt at Blue Mountain.
ROCK FACES
Get momentum
Stand if possible
Throttle & clutch control
Wheelie on to steep slabs
Use kickers
Try short run ups
Use spotters
Use kickers
In rocky terrain, try to stand and keep your feet on the pegs for as long as possible. Then keep standing but paddle with one leg as needed. As it gets tougher, then sit and paddle with one or both legs. Stand again as soon as you can.
This epic terrain is all in McNutt, we'll talk more about this brilliant riding area near Vancouver in the next vid. And remember watch out if you grab a sasquatch by the crotch.
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[@diamondtguy]

Been a Mcnutt rider since the early 90's..Its just something you have to experience...Thanks to Chris and the guys who put this together....

[@multipleendurogasms8833]

I've rode a 450 4stroke for year's. in really technical trail's sometimes the weight and power really wears me out. So a couple weeks ago I purchased a Husqvarna the 150 2stroke. WOW! what a difference. I'm a tech machine on this little bike. I can ride hours longer. Friends looked at me like I was crazy when I bought it, but not anymore. They can't keep up

[@Marc-hp3ne]

I did not have a bike when starting to watch your your videos. Got my first bike in fifteen years. now to practice what you teach.

[@HeddleTown]

Great video guys nice work.. 😎😄👍🎥

[@freetaylor72]

Watched your video about air pressure and went and road on rocky trails, you was right about the trade off. Bike didn't get a puncture or flat but it did wanna roll and buck. From there I went to back roading and the rocky gravel was sketchy in the turns. I kept hearing your video in my head telling me how to have body position etc. It all worked out just fine, but the rocky trails really gave me arm pump, and though I was squeezing the bike with my knees it was hard for me to just let the bike naturally maneuver over the rocks cause it wanted to go whare it wanted. No crashes though, and I conqured a good size hill that had been in my head for weeks. Your videos and the info you give is on point and I thank you.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Always great to know the vids are useful! We do so much slow technical riding nowadays that we all have TUbliss fitted and only run about 2 or 3 PSI. Incredible traction, great in rocks, but the handling isn't great at speed. But then we almost never pick up speed on the easy sections, we are just resting until the next snotty bit of terrain lol.

[@freetaylor72]

@@crosstrainingenduro yea im still getting to know the bike, I'm a short rider but I got a 23 beta 200rr and standing on the pegs riding its like the handle bars are low and to close to my body. I tried the knees bent, elbows up ass low to rear of the seat, but its like my hands gripping the bars feels like I'm top heavy, you think moving the handle bar position to #1 would feel any different?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

We covered bar positioning in our bike setup vid, always worth experimenting.

[@wesleyoke8448]

You need more video like this in this area. This is a glimpse of all the riding around here on van island or in other parts of bc. And its knarly. When I see the training vids they dont really fully take into account that i have a steep pitch full of loose soccer ball rock.. with three crazy slabs... and that's just to access trail heads... but this video touches on the daily for me

[@chariflakchiri]

Great drone footage of those rocky sections. I watch it full screen 1080p and slow it to 0.5 speed. Great for watching closely body positioning etc.

[@chrisharris1641]

Yes , I like it . So I’ll keep watching your top channel . Thanks 😊

[@shadetreesurgeon]

What a gorgeous riding area!

[@jeremybraxton4644]

InstaBlaster.

[@Sum4Seb]

You're sure to sleep good at night after a day of riding in that kind of terrain! Great video as always, looking forward to the rest of the series :) *T4S*

[@crosstrainingenduro]

after four days in a row i was having trouble even walking :)

[@rideordivekerry4830]

those trails are dreamy

[@ronbutler6526]

Lots of fun, thanks for all the editing and for posting, really appreciate your videos, keep up the good work : )

[@crosstrainingenduro]

a pleasure ron, great for me too as i'll never forget these rides now!

[@jonnyg8888]

nice riding and looks a great place to ride

[@kieranhollins3726]

Love your videos. Your instructing methods brilliant!

[@crosstrainingenduro]

thanks kieran 😊

[@sargondirtrider2356]

That looks like my section of the planet,northern sierras.yes there is nothing like riding in the high mountains!

[@masterbeta343]

Theres also nothing like riding in the tropical valleys of hawaii

[@daviddriver6339]

Was just thinking this looked like Forest Hill or Chaulk Bluff here in Northern California.

[@sargondirtrider2356]

+David Driver yes,would love to ride Forrest hill. Haven't done that yet.

[@RoostMoto]

Those trails look amazing!!! Also great footage with the drone👍

[@crosstrainingenduro]

i'd love get one of those basic 'follow me' drones but can barely keep the bike going as it is :(

[@EnduroGripBosnien]

Nice video and terrain to

[@gamer2350]

Great work on this video helped out a lot I just gotta practice all this now to get better!👍👍

[@JonathanVee]

Great video! So well explained. Thank you.

[@reeve606]

hay man Epic video there I'm in love with the terrain thanks for the tips will be sure to head out to some rocks and put them into practice keep it up !! all ur clips are 👍👌

[@therbertme]

Really liking the drone footage.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

not sure if i'll ever be able to afford one but will borrow footage from others when i can!

[@Sn0w1981]

Wow, those trails! I can feel my clutch-finger starting to itch already! :D

[@Anthony_aus]

Between you and Megan Griffiths Enduro I'm getting really antsy that I can't go there! Looks like a blast and somewhere that'll really help me learn to navigate those rock minefields! I'm pretty horrible at them at the moment haha, ah well, practice practice practice I guess. :)

[@backwoodsriders1879]

Love the drone footage

[@Averageadventuresoz]

Sensational looking trails!

[@AlexAnder-wd4zh]

it is so weird watching the trails I ride most weekends

[@crxdan]

I feel lucky to be able to ride my plated ktm to these Mcnutt trails on the weekends ;)

[@EnduroRiderChannel]

Nice! Cant wait for the next one!

[@v4magic898]

Another great video, fantastic to see you getting some reward for your efforts. i could well be mistaken, it has happened once or twice in my life (apparently), but i don't recall you talking about the reverse traction technique, great for those rocky step ups. Keep up the great work. Love the drone footage through the trees...

[@crosstrainingenduro]

reverse traction technique? doesn't ring a bell and can't remember calling anything by that name....

[@v4magic898]

I'm sure you apply it, but perhaps haven't identified it as such. The principle is to preload the suspension on approach, apply a healthy dose of throttle to get the front end up, and then when the front wheel contacts the rock face, close the throttle completely, and let the bike tractor up the face. Timing is important, but it eliminates wheel spin on the rock. Just something I learnt in a trials course that works for me. It really is just an extension of weighting the bike before the rockface, applying throttle and deweighting and closing the throttle. This helps avoid looping out, and works well for tree roots as well.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

cool... i'll be slowly redoing a lot of the older vids so could be worthwhile stressing that more in the existing vid about short sharp climbs and rock faces.

[@thumper4506]

another great video by the way man, always good

[@chrisi2348]

tyreballs are also pretty nice

[@JoeL-mm2lc]

place looks amazing!

[@crosstrainingenduro]

good old mcnutt in bc canada, can't wait to get back there again, joe

[@ovuvuevuevueenyetuenwuevue8656]

I seen sasquatch /Bigfoot when riding down in the misty mountain nsw.

[@ovuvuevuevueenyetuenwuevue8656]

I haven't been back there since

[@larrypowers9911]

i love it best vid keep them coming

[@Roller71]

Great drone work, new aspect with great results. Gimble work in there as well? It looks like there is miles of this terrain with no other vehicles but bikes. I hope you can divulge more on these conditions and the reasons. Keep up the great work.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

just using 'superview' on the gopro to smooth the helmet footage, royce. canadians are very lucky to have all that land but also clubs willing to do the hard yards with trail creation and preservation.

[@kevinallen206]

Been away and busy for a while but I still really enjoy your vids! I wish you'd come to Idaho some time so we could run some single track in the back country.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

would love to get there one day kevin... traction erag are talking about heading over the border eventually but not sure which states we would be visiting yet. :)

[@kevinallen206]

There are so many places here in the states it would be a hard choice. Winter is quickly approaching here and I just got what will probably be some of my last rides for the season so watching the vids will have to hold me over.

[@JoeJoeMoto]

Wow, some real gnarly stuff huh!

[@crosstrainingenduro]

those were mostly the 'easy' tracks joe but yeah they are still hard work. :) also filmed some 'intermediate' tracks which i'll show in another vid soon, made me wonder what the advanced tracks were like!

[@dennisstjean4920]

molcolm also rode cash creek with al parret my friend also larry rossler then they rode baja

[@dominiquebernard2096]

dreaming trail

[@StuHNomadBiker]

Great video

[@moflyboyblanquito541]

Like your videos. I’m getting better.

[@ExodusFlesh]

Tons of rocky stuff in Eastern PA too- loose and fixed.

[@StevieRayMcB]

Great video Barry. I'm going to be switching from my crf250r to a yz250.

[@250gang8]

need to get a cr.. honda is where it's at

[@DrintoThought]

While true, YZ250s are damn near indestructible from what I hear. Good choice.

[@meks8086]

YZF51 it’s the Honda’s that are bulletproof. Yamaha’s are the ones you see in blow up vids

[@hardenduromontoncel1078]

I love this terrain !! It looks like my middle France :) I agree with everything you say in all videos exept when you say " grip the bike with the knees ". In my opinion, if you do it, you lose the interest of riding stand up ( using your body to keep balance and moving it for a lot of reasons ... ) and it's still hard for your arms, i think it's better to sit down, even if it's for a short time.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

gripping the bike in this vid is for rocky terrain of course... i agree there are many times you don't grip the bike so you can move backwards and forwards. :)

[@hardenduromontoncel1078]

Yes, happy to see i'm not the only one to struggle in these terrains ! If you have advices for the physical training, ( which exercises to do, how often a week ... ) it could be cool to do a vid about it :) It's one of the biggest problems in our enduro world !

[@crosstrainingenduro]

i just try to ride three times a week then run up some steep hills for cardiovascular exercise.... but i would like to research this more.

[@hardenduromontoncel1078]

CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS Ok, thanks for the advices :)

[@danieljamieson8515]

amazing area. good job 🤘

[@Shibby13499431]

I was just going to invite you guys to Canada to do some riding and technique learning together. Then I see you've been here! I think it would be good fun to ride together. As you can see, our riding is very different and differs greatly by area.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

it was great fun shibby! traction erag want to get me out again next year and they'll announce all the details in one of their issues next year....

[@Shibby13499431]

Good news! If you are heading further east to eastern BC or Alberta, let me know and I could point you to some good stuff and/or guide.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

i don't know yet but as per the previous comment all the details will appear in traction erag as they'll be deciding when and where etc. can't wait!

[@benjaminsamuel7297]

It's confirmed, I'm getting a Beta 390rr

[@cosmokenney]

Great vid. You should come to nor cal sometime.

[@franckbrunie4759]

On terrain with rocks / boulders, I often find myself having my legs away from the frame. That way the bike gets more nimble and compliant to the terrain, and the ride gets easier, and then I retighten my knee grip when I have to force the bike over an obstacle. Also I stopped being too experimental, because rocks like to damage bikes and bodies in an unexpected way.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

I agree Franck, rocks can mess with your bike big time! I always think my way through compared to the guys I ride with. Mind you they also have disc guards and big bashplate/exhaust protection etc.

[@gregorynoel3741]

Well done Barry!!!!!! :-)

[@crosstrainingenduro]

thanks gregory, editing all that down to under 10 mins was a tough job lol

[@EddyOtway]

Love the drone footage, maybe you should invest in one👍🏻

[@crosstrainingenduro]

would be nice but can barely afford to keep the bike going as it is lol

[@EddyOtway]

+CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS I hear you lol

[@billrowse2266]

+CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS I don't think any of us would mind if you monetised your videos.....

[@YaronKeMs]

nice video , its not like going to ride, its more like going to war :)

[@7thirtyseven]

Barry, let me know if you will make it to Calgary. I'll set you up with some excellent rides!

[@crosstrainingenduro]

not sure what traction erag have planned next year but i think they'll probably announce the schedule in an issue early next year. hope to get over that way.... :)

[@dansalmon2698]

@@crosstrainingenduro Alberta has some of the best offroad in the world easily! love your videos man

[@mikesloan3805]

7:58 just look at that drone footage.

[@infidelmat]

If you make it back to Calabogie, I'll make sure you see the, ahem, 'real' part of Quinns which resembles the section shown at 0:20. Apparently I've been misled into the "lesser" area this summer. But we did show another ozzy it the other week, so that's something I guess? Edit: just finished the video....yeah I don't know why you'd waste your time in ontario again lol...

[@crosstrainingenduro]

yeah the guys said afterwards we turned back before getting into the good stuff due to fuel range. :( i still enjoyed ontario but did enjoy the steep bits that BC offers of course.

[@Lstubz]

Go to Rockyridge trails in Denton Texas United States

[@daviddriver6339]

Mr. Morris... can you please do a video explaining the phenomenon, and how to avoid it, where people seem to bounce off their own bike and lose control. It seems like only the sitters do it? It seems like tons of their crashes are this 'almost slid right off my bike' effect they get going. What gives?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

sort of covered in a pile of vids, but especially the 'when to sit and stand' vid

[@daviddriver6339]

Alright, will review it again.

[@grantcustance994]

3 or 4 roots in a row your a machine

[@crosstrainingenduro]

Wombat style the whole way, Grant. Eats. Roots. And leaves.

[@terryrasor5495]

nooiiicccceee!!!!

[@0_0garrett0_0]

mcnutt is the best place for hard enduro. 100%

[@MrGotmudd]

Did I hear right that you are in vancouver? If so and you make it to vancouver island for some riding on the areas around here I would be in for a ride for sure.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

flew out three weeks ago but will be back next year, traction erag will release the dates and locations some time next year. :)

[@MrGotmudd]

+CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS Awesome. would love to go for a ride with you guys next time your out this way.

[@harrisonjacobsen173]

that looks so much like the pacific northwest

[@SHAUNOTPPRODUCER]

iv noticed that all these riders are wearing bags i know there used to carry water ect. but with a bag i feel a lot safer when doing enduro riding its like back/spine protection encase you do flip it

[@5thgeartapped986]

Damn you are right in my home town

[@crosstrainingenduro]

i was for one week... can't wait to get back to BC next year for a lot longer, fingers crossed!

[@dennisstjean4920]

molcom smith rode mcnutts with my friends

[@garthlundquist3623]

Bring a spare shift lever!

[@mikesloan3805]

8:37 here's some more!

[@Mutiny-5050]

Love your videos as always. What GoPro setting do you use if you don't mind me asking. I would like to start some desert riding how to vids and ho not vids lol. Would love to get the optimal setting for showing the terrain. I ride a lot of off camber and hilly terrain but the video never does it justice. I notice in your videos you do a great job of that. I fell it has a lot to do with the trees displaying a steep perspective but your other videos look great. If anything keep up the great work.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

gopro setting tips and heaps of other info in the video filming vid done ages ago chris. :)

[@Mutiny-5050]

I'm a tough guy. Just tell me like it is. " Use the fucking search bar you fat American" Will do.

[@bullyproof5707]

Question with the knee grip tekneek?... do you guys still get arm pump or is that a sign my positioning on the bike is wrong? Im new to dirt but have done plenty of road riding

[@crosstrainingenduro]

It can be a whole pile of things, see our arm pump video.

[@dennisstjean4920]

i tried 86 yz490 88yz 490 lowered suspension worked good brand new kdx 420 i bought brand new 77 ktm 400 worked good lectron carb bings and amals dont like bumpsthey flood out 370 bultaco new 250 alpina then 350 rmx 250 then 94 360 husky nice engine terrible forks i always drill tiny hole in fork caps works good on roots but oil hits you in face trials tires with sheet metal screws every second knob you can hit any root and not slip even grips rocks

[@thisisme7587]

Slippery wet patches in the middle always complicate things

[@backwoodsriders1879]

This is all East Tennessee. Stuff I ride every time I ride

[@husky9562]

nice

[@lancetrujillo3155]

Digging your vids. Are you on a Beta Xtrainer 300? If I remember right you are 6' or better and a good 200 lbs. How's that bike for your size?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

all good, i reported on the xtrainer in the past few vids. all i needed was high bend bars....

[@tm_rider_3005]

I'm Planning to go to mcnutt soon. Any game plans, recommendations, do's/don'ts and are their any good maps?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

the club that looks after the tracks would have all that info i reckon....

[@nuclearviper9119]

i l8ve 2 minutes away fro those trails

[@crosstrainingenduro]

i'm 17 hours away by jet :(

[@ThisTall]

Lived in BC for 30years and never heard of McNutt.

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

Looks like my house.

[@ka4172]

Momentum without wheelspin is the secret i think ,hovering was the solution!Ha ha!

[@orangeblooded4005]

What tire set up did they bless you with on that beta ?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

goldentyre GT216 front and rear, super gummy on the rear :)

[@tristenbrady6013]

I'm getting a 2002 KTM 250sx and planning on doing some Enduro riding is that a good bike to start on

[@crosstrainingenduro]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJeafaaVor92qZY

[@paulbryan1601]

Do you ship your bikes, rent, or what when you travel?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

just a loan bike from someone usually, paul

[@postmortemgaming630]

I'm curious, What's the most common displacement of your group

[@crosstrainingenduro]

just what you'll see in the regular vlogs in australia, 200 to 480.

[@benjaminsamuel7297]

+CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS you're the 480?

[@thumper4506]

do you know anyone who rides or have you rode the new yz250x? this is pretty similar terrain as to what I'm usually riding and I'm trying to figure out if the beta 300rr is worth the extra $3,000 vs the yz250x

[@crosstrainingenduro]

no, nobody in australia is buying for the reasons in the 'non-review' vid we made about the YZ250X

[@thumper4506]

wow, I clearly missed one of your videos. ok thanks for the reply!

[@robertoenriquegarcia2064]

What happens if the rocks are moist or wet??? Went riding today had to dicth a long ass hill due to the rocks being slippery as hell!

[@crosstrainingenduro]

the recent vid on how to do rocky hill climbs should have some good pointers, roberto :)

[@robertoenriquegarcia2064]

CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS Yeap saw the pointers thanks! Going out on Saturday and I'm going to own that uphill with rocks for sure using these tips. (Fingers X) lol.

[@justinf6758]

If you could review a ktm 200xcw that would be so amazing. Has anyone tried it for hard terrain

[@slowninja14]

I've ridden with a couple of guys now on a 200 xcw on seriously gnarly trails and they work phenomenal. Both did have a Rekluse.

[@justinf6758]

+slowninja14 ok thanks. I'm thinking I'll get tubliss and skid plate and such but I don't think I'll get a rekluse.

[@crosstrainingenduro]

already done

[@justinf6758]

+CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS oh shoot yeah I will look back I kind of remember that now.

[@AngusTProductions]

Does anyone ride ttr-250's on these terrain videos

[@williambeaston7082]

What do you think about a TE 125 husqvarna mate

[@crosstrainingenduro]

no idea, never ridden one or any 125 for that matter....

[@tm_rider_3005]

If you get a chance to ride one could you share your opinions?

[@crosstrainingenduro]

probably not, i can't see a 125 really fitting in with the sort of riding we are doing

[@thehulk22]

my backyard

[@crosstrainingenduro]

right eric, now you are just making me jealous :D

[@williambeaston7082]

Is the 125 good for technical things like the stuff u do

[@crosstrainingenduro]

if you watch the vids you'll see most of us are riding 300cc minimum

[@GeneralNOH]

With a heavier flywheel and great clutch control, you could do it, but youd be seriously lacking in the torque department

[@dennisstjean4920]

my name is dennis i built the first trails on mcnutts i worked up there in the 60s my dad logged up there contracted from mcnutts darrel mcnutt is still alive related to to my girl friend i tried to connect nigards 272 and make loop in 80s to much snow 6 feet in july the last time i rode there 1994 on 360 husky wr what i need 350 trials old moto cross suspension huge fly wheel reclose hydraluic clutch left hand hyd rear brake cool electric start now why doesnt any body build this bike new ktm every thing wrong i love your videos cool but people have wrong bikes you are teaching people incredable it took your self from another country news covered mx when i was young ive seen mx riders on mcnutts totaly destroy trail there use to be a horse club that blocked all trails on mcnutts i went to meetings in 70s and had it reversed that was me i hope you come back i would like to help youteach i know lots of things you forgot im 66 this year still fit 510 180

[@crosstrainingenduro]

you guys did some awesome work with those tracks dennis, very keen to get back again this year if traction erag can organise it. :)

[@TheExplosiveStunts]

i live 5 minutes away from here

[@practicaladvmoto]

Would you call it a... sas-crotch?

[@masterbeta343]

Its going to be so awkward when u get home bc your going to have to explain to big bore betty why youve been riding other bikes the 250 the xtrainer the flat track bike

[@dennisstjean4920]

you dont need a 10ooo dollar bike to ride mcnutts or vedder any enduro mellow power band big fly wheel 10 inches suspension low seat small carb you dont even need clutch trials tire on rear with studs every second knob really soft suspesion like my 81 pe 250 with trials fly wheel 85 rm forks with disc brake foot pegs mounted right at swing arm pivot

[@jnuxca]

it feel frustrating when you are tall and your knees can't even squeeze the seat hahahah

[@johncodner8835]

Not hitting those rock slabs nearly hard enough

[@eyalcr500]

damn it man.....! even the young lady there is better than me ... :(stop those vids,man,i'm as green as i could get from that Canada, go back to Australia!on second thought, Australia vids also turn me green :)

[@icky22mb]

good vid..but the cheater rocks on museum is a no-no...vedder would make for a good vid also...aint as hard as mcnutt thou

[@minnesotabymotorcycles4773]

I could out ride most of these riders on my klr 650! no joke I've been up things ....

[@crosstrainingenduro]

likewise, on my DR650. but i don't see the need to put down less experienced riders in the process.