【ENG SUB】Her English skills. 【Shirogane Noeru】

[@zel1459]

Noel: I don't know english that well.. First letter: *"DEAR GODDESS"*

[@hakuharuno6790]

Yes

[@kimoiactual682]

I fuckin read this right as she pulled it up. I'm *L I V I D*

[@sstkitm]

Danchou(団長) became Danchou(断腸) meaning heartbreak, grief, sorrow that's why chat was enjoying it so much lol

[@thanglongnguyenvu3815]

Well....technically, the only one for her is Flare so maybe the different kanji but same reading was deliberate.

[@off-beatdrummer]

@@thanglongnguyenvu3815 just bad translation engine.

[@official_FoxGaming]

@@thanglongnguyenvu3815 bad translation engine and this comment is right

[@trashman8080]

Poor dude probably typed everything in english then use gg translate on that paragraph.

[@praisewilhelm5203]

And "断腸" comes from Chinese idiom "肝肠寸断“， which means feeling sad to extreme as if liver and intestines been cut in to inches.

[@vm_duc]

A man named Dogen once told me: "you're only good at Japanese when people stop telling you 'your japanese is good', and ask 'how long have you been in Japan?' ".

[@ルリ-ruri]

can confirm this

[@austin1648]

yesyes

[@NihongoWakannai]

J o u z u

[@vm_duc]

n i h o n g o j o u z u

[@GervasiusMC]

man just got 日本語上手'd

[@MiguelitoJimz]

Noel: My English is not good. Me: This time is not your fault, Noel...

[@kannatheweeb8836]

Wow.

[@Katsunai]

Lol, I also wanted to say his grammer sucked balls but it seemed a little to aggressive. Nice comment. Lol

[@sharkle9]

@@Katsunai same but my guess is English is their second language. I see quite a few comments mention they're spanish or other but interact in english.

[@Katsunai]

@@sharkle9 2nd language is the worst excuse I've always heard. English is my 3rd language that I've learnt and it's not because of that, it's cuz of the lack of trying and willingness to understand.

[@MasterOfInfinity]

@@Katsunai Not everyone has the time to dedicate themselves to learning a new language. For many people, it would be useless anyway. Some hate languages altogether. Do you have a thorough understanding of the differential geometry of Banach manifolds? Most likely no. Does that mean you were lazy in Math class? Nope. Just because you can do something doesn't mean others should too.

[@blacksiopao]

Ago is Yagoo's core.

[@raviolieothedisgustingsupe4504]

good joke, well executed, would revisit

[@vingerebise8714]

You're name lmao

[@anonymousstout4759]

Ago = ago = ahegao = yahoo = (Yago) it's spiral baby

[@theonecallednick]

I was just thinking about this hahaha xD

[@kyousey]

This comment shall age well

[@Jaime_Protein_Cannister]

To be fair , she has this strange quality to her voice that makes every word she speaks in English sound surprisingly clear. If she learned the language properly , she might even sound native. Tho it's to be expected , her Japanese sounds pretty crisp to me as well, as opposed to say... Ars Almal Nijisanji (slurry)

[@Chaoxfan]

Listen to miko or hima, I can't understand what they are saying half the time lol

[@estval1055]

Ngl, I would struggle reading that English section as well. "I saw your KZbin video -that- of playing -the- Mario Maker. Because your voice is so cute, I fell in love when I -saw- heard it... I hope -that I would- to listen and watch your ASMR video again -in- this year." I think I would be able to interpret and understand it better if I could read the Japanese part lol

[@kannatheweeb8836]

English is weird.

[@nayunayu4265]

Probably his/her second language and Japanese the 3rd

[@thanglongnguyenvu3815]

The japanese part was also wack. She said it was good but there were a few part that sounded like Google translate was put into use there.

[@Freakattaker]

Wait... I'm actually so used to reading broken English on the internet that I didn't even realize it was significantly off until I went into the comment section LMAO. I guess it also helps that I mostly understood what was going on in the Japanese part once she read it out loud

[@dankuso111]

Here we go again with the Correcting Grammars SMH Does it really matter tho LOL U still understood what he said SMH Not Everyone Perfect And know English very well. Y Not just enjoy the Fan Letter its not that serious JESUS

[@enjufi]

Nihongo jouzu... **Screams in Dogen**

[@BallsMadeOfCheese]

It's scary how he ingrained it into our brains. I grimaced when she said it.

[@enjufi]

@@BallsMadeOfCheese No joke! She didn't even get to finish the sentence before my brain sounded red alert.

[@mscakemo]

@@BallsMadeOfCheese May I know who?

[@BallsMadeOfCheese]

@@mscakemo Dogen. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h57JmqOsYq1nldE It's a running joke in his channel.

[@TheKeksadler]

God, its unreal how that very starkly stood out to me.

[@adri4689]

Ago is your CEO

[@PsionicDude]

I like how she wasn't even able to read "youtube". XD

[@Tremulousnut]

She doesn’t know how to break down the word to pronounce it. It’s a common issue with Japanese speakers trying to say an English word. The reverse is also true, when English speakers try to read romaji.

[@Chryen50]

0:57 Fck he got "NIHONGO JOUZU(dayo)"ededed feelsbadman 😔😔

[@DarkBlazeker]

Hmmmm, Is not Noel one of the girls who said that she's gonna take some lessons to learn English? If so, its heartwarming. I think Korone already started hers tho. And yup, i need more lessons too, hahahahaha.

[@Tremulousnut]

I don’t think she have the time by the looks of it. If I remember correctly, she have a part time job in case revenue isn’t enough for expenses, so she had a few misses in the past - Oversleeping, collapsing, etc.

[@Tremulousnut]

@@Chuito12PR She fell asleep on the floor right after a stream. Another time she outright missed a scheduled stream, viewers were panicking and contacted other 3rd gens to check up on her, she popped in last moment to apologise. When I am talking about part time job, I don't mean her other channel, but some other job outside of what she's doing. The joke is that she's a home tutor and doing the "ara~ ara~" routine. Then she also have to fit in voice training lessons because she wants to improve, especially her singing (which frankly, isn't good and she admits it). Financially she's probably doing ok (bar the gap where she was demonetised), but her life is a mess. She's got a really messy room (as cluttered as her C-Drive), denied it for a while, until she finally admitted and viewers made her do a "room cleaning stream". These Vtubers don't live healthy lifestyles, having a vampire schedule would be a blessing compared to what Korone is doing, or the super sedentary lifestyle of Marine.

[@Tremulousnut]

@@Chuito12PR Some have vampire schedules, for example there's "Convenient woman Watame", who replies at 3AM according to Coco, or Haato where she sleeps in the day and wakes up in the evening, but with Korone doubt it. Korone had her share of incidents, as missing sleep regularly hits you hard eventually. She've shared a pie chart of her time allocation once and it's not healthy. Regarding Noel... Missed stream incident: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bauZmaBufc16fK8 Room cleaning saga: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4aTdp5tfJd9etU Middle-ish: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4aTdp5tfJd9etU End(?): kzbin.info/www/bejne/rX-2pqp_d92kr6s

[@monoman567]

@@Chuito12PR Not going to share any details here but It seems Noel always had a rough life and that seems to be the motivation that keeps her working so hard.

[@ChiriConCarne]

I think it was Korone, She wants to interact with her fans outside Japan. She cares so much, such a pure doggo. No wonder she got loved by many in a short amount of time.

[@blastburnz]

I appreciate that she's trying to read our messages. Seems our words can reach these vtubers sometimes!

[@bp7551]

She's so cute! Haven't heard english this bad since Rushia was telling me to go home haha

[@kusaboketranslations2163]

I don't want to discourage people from writing messages like this to the Vtubers they like. Even though both the Japanese and the English are pretty weird, Noel still understood that the guy was saying that he likes her. With that said, you can't tell from this video but the Japanese is very broken in the Japanese message, it seems like it was translated from the English one by google translate or something like that. Noel struggled to make sense of it, and then gave him the "nihongo jouzu"(Your Japanese is good). This should tell viewers that whenever a Japanese person tells you that your Japanese is good, you should be worried. As for the video, please, for the love of god, don't use subtitles that fade in and out like that. It's really hard to read. There are some things missing from the translation as well like: 2:09 海外古参ニキじゃないですか。"It's a long time viewer dude from overseas." Would be how I translate this. The Japanese text says 恋に落ちる "to fall in love", so she looks at the English to find the words "fall in love", but she can't find it because it's in past tense but she's still looking for "fall". There are a bunch of things like this that are just really hard to tell when the subtitles are so rough. I don't want to discourage you from making translations either, but I hope you can make subtitles that are more accurate and easier to read in the future.

[@smk7500]

Kusaboke Translations // I thought I vaguely recognized your channel pic, I remember I’ve watched many of your videos. Thanks for all your subbing work, I’ve really enjoyed your videos. Good luck on whatever you’re doing since you’re not focusing on videos now. Also, do you have any suggestions on learning Japanese/how you learned Japanese? My methods aren’t great so I was wondering if you self studied and if you focused on anything first like vocab, kanji, grammar, or listening to natives.

[@kusaboketranslations2163]

@@smk7500 I have been self studying for years(on and off). Back when I started, my main motivation was to watch anime so I prioritized grammar, but it really depends on the person. It helps to know your short term and long term goals with Japanese. Short term, you might be interested in watching vtubers live, and that might give you a good idea of what you're lacking, what to focus on next etc. But it's also really useful to know how deep you are willing to go/how committed you are. I will lead you to some resources but it might be an information overload if you aren't interested in going that deep. github.com/EngJpDiscordExchange/Awesome-Japanese I would recommend starting here. I haven't used all of those resources so I can't really recommend all of them, but it's a good compilation of popular resources. There are also links to Discord servers and a subreddit so if you already use those you can more easily make learning Japanese a part of your life. I personally DON'T recommend things like "Hacking the Kanji"(learning 2000~ Kanji before learning anything else about Japanese), but some people say it worked very well for them. Every other resource in that link (that I used) was pretty good.

[@CapybaraEnjoyer123]

Some people don't know Japanese and still want to let them know they appreciate the VTubers. I can speak and read Japanese and sometimes send my marshmellows or super chats but I think people should be free to try their best even with google translate to express their thoughts. I think it's kinda dumb to gatekeep sending comments or mashmellows like this to them and feel condescending when telling people to stop doing so. I know the vtubers aren't going to literally say the writre's JP is bad and will find the way around just like Noel did in this case but I think that these youtubers may find it cute or nice to also have people outside of Japan rooting for them. Maybe I misunderstood your comment and took it in a rude manner but you just come off condescending in this case and I don't think you should be gate keeping this kind of things.

[@kusaboketranslations2163]

@@CapybaraEnjoyer123 Maybe it wasn't clear in my message but my complaints are aimed at the video, not the marshmallow sender. The marshmallow does have bad grammar, but that's okay. I was bothered by the subtitles that make the situation unclear. "The marshmallow has bad grammar" isn't my problem. My problem is "The subtitles don't clearly convey that the marshmallow has bad grammar, among other things." If the subtitles were clear, I wouldn't have to explain why I'm writing a comment saying "It's okay to write messages to VTubers even if your Japanese isn't great". I would have just said, "It's okay to write messages to VTubers even if your Japanese isn't great".

[@CapybaraEnjoyer123]

@@kusaboketranslations2163 damm my reading comprehension is on the floor rn lol. Thanks for clarifying but it really felit like it was aimed at the person who wrote the marshmellow. I fully understand it now.

[@im_vovv1]

2:50, my favorite part

[@animefanrk2k]

I think it's really neat seeing fans worldwide~~~

[@XenoKnightAlpha]

This video needs an outro or just blank video at the end so the video sticker (?) ribbon (?) links don't cover up the content

[@aruthorcarly]

The way they struggles on reading english is very cute Probably same cute as when we struggle reading japanese letters ahaha

[@vexed2558]

When did we, men ever become cute struggling at something? I do feel the same way if they speak enlish tho

[@whoami1449]

@@vexed2558 i wholeheartedly agree By the way, your reply got duplicated

[@MichaelKing015]

read japanese? LOL we just look at those moonrunes man we dont read them

[@EmyGrachy]

manchara kanchara nanchara

[@anhh1723]

Shouldn't a Paladin should know Engrish to exchange conversations Lol Doesn't matter ,she's cute and has an elf as a husband is already a win in life

[@Tremulousnut]

They only need to learn how to speak orc or goblin...

[@willcollings5681]

Is it just me or is her face moving just slightly before her hair? It's freaking me out lol

[@SephConUno]

Hearing her Ara-Ara voice with kanata is what got me Hooked willingly

[@lov3439]

I can’t handle the cuteness when she tries to speak English

[@official_FoxGaming]

When she say I love you to that person Me: ah.... Why life so cruel.... My heart: jealousy~~~~~~~

[@praisewilhelm5203]

And "断腸" comes from Chinese idiom "肝肠寸断“， which means feeling sad and heartache to extreme as if liver and intestines been cut into inches. 肝=liver 肠=intestines 寸=inch 断=cut off

[@oompalumpus699]

This is pretty much the reason why I prefer to leave messages in English. Since I don't know Japanese, I can't really trust a translation engine.

[@Tremulousnut]

Google translate is usually ok if you you do simple sentences, or word things in a specific way.

[@mimmac3877]

That dude just said to her: i fall in love when i hear u voice everytime i see ur videos.

[@brazu9864]

0:54 Oof

[@Mushabeans]

Should've brought Marine to help her

[@ekkymahesa8708]

jouzo moment

[@hollowficate]

Hearing nihongo jouzu is not a compliment to me.

[@agodasi6325]

団長のが断腸になってるの草

[@anaysz993]

wow she asked for coco and haato but not for choco okay i see how it is

[@paulvontarsus729]

Boing Boing brain

[@Thunderdude135]

She has come to also attract the overseas people

[@silentintrovert]

やべじゃんwww

[@Mana-qp4uw]

thank you for the video, but can you not put thee other video links at the end ? because they block the view and i can't read the subs

[@trashman8080]

Dont blame him, blame yt

[@Mana-qp4uw]

@@trashman8080 no, the owner of the video is the one who put those ending card on, youtube only gave him the tool to do that

[@Nambark]

It's funny, they can only speak japanese, eventhough they learn english almost a decade at school..

[@aninggga]

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[@Whutever42]

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[@MrGrandis852]

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[@faithfulfollower980]

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[@lordzenghax8670]

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[@N1CH0_N1N3]

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[@arcxcc]

Noeru? Noel.

[@Tremulousnut]

ノエル=No-E-Ru Some fans prefer to keep it as Noeru because it sounds cuter.

[@jinhong7116]

cringe bomb dropped real hard when the first one literally mentioned dear goddess

[@mobu6810]

。 JinHong ok jealous

[@snausages43]

Interesting how she couldn’t read “KZbin”

[@kennkei1397]

Yu chup

[@RecordToDeathToBoredom]

The end cards get in the way of the subs. How do you get rid of them?

[@heavenseatemperor3628]

Not bad

[@setoman1]

ASMR what? Where? I see no ASMR on Noel's channel.

[@ltrain4479]

He might be referring to her "other" channel.

[@setoman1]

Gordon Is that the channel that comes up when I search "Shirogane Noel ASMR" on KZbin?

[@ltrain4479]

@@setoman1 I'm not sure. Just search Canan ASMR, you'll notice the "assets" and voice.

[@jm329]

The end cards block the subs

[@thetrollguy4512]

Can someone link her ASMR vid

[@TheRazor-1302]

I`d like to know her asmr`s aswell cant find them on her channel

[@TheRazor-1302]

1:45 she talks about her debut and says that she was doing asmr at that time so I dont know if she is still doing it

[@dipu5352]

kzbin.info/door/X8fFzD1Kdi8uCSmbOce08w There is some rumor saying that this channel is also being run by Noel's voice actor so idk if the fan is calling out on this.

[@Tremulousnut]

@@dipu5352 Canaan is basically her. Besides the voice being a dead giveaway, she made a few mistakes in the past that gave herself away. I think Troll Guy was referring to her Noel character's ASMR videos, some of which are gone. KZbin don't really like that stuff and supposedly it got her demonetised for being too sexual.

[@mino1470]

Bebut

[@sleepingwalking9519]

断肠 WWW