Patagonia Black Hole 25L Backpack - New Features for Fall 2023

[@veritasca24]

I just bought one for traveling to Asia next month, and I am pleased with how roomy it is. Thanks for the review. Very helpful. I hope the luggage sleeve will work well when the bag is fully loaded! The bag height is 2.8 inches longer than what Japan Airlines allows for a personal item backpack, but the other two dimensions are within range, so I hope I will be allowed as a personal item.

[@christianlalisan1530]

So were you able to fit it in with no issues?

[@bixby451]

Thank you for this review, I got this bag at a discount for 96 dollars and I absolutely love it. Great weekender and personal item backpack!

[@PaulBeiser]

Awesome. Love the changes they have made, I really like my 2 Black Hole packs now. Very clever and smart with that loop on back panel to be able to slide it over a luggage handle - great addition. Especially thanks for showing us how it looks/carries, esp with all of that weight - pretty awesome!

[@denniszenanywhere]

What is your Macbook case? I like it.

[@adamwork02]

Excellent video, very descriptive 🤌

[@Engearment]

Thank you!

[@therigloftmatthewotto4775]

I think you're overlooking one super positive about the shiny TPU coating is it is much easier to clean then a math surface and when you use a Patagonia backpack you're probably going to use it hiking so mud tree sap those kinds of things aren't going to be as easy to clean off of that matte finish. I carry a 32 L orange shiny Black Hole backpack and have for many years I've made some modifications to mine to make it a little more organizer friendly so it's not just a big empty sack I don't think the addition of one pocket on the face of the bag really makes that much difference for organization you could do more inside a better organization. Think I'll stick to my old school shiny backpack I don't think that the matte finish is going to be the way to go

[@Engearment]

Great insight. You can probably score sone good deals on the shiny version. For what it’s worth, we have used the heck out of this pack and not found it any harder to keep clean. It still has the DWR coating, which I feel like is also a descent stain repellent. Just my observation.

[@FunkyBuddha418]

Thanks for this video review. How would you say the measurements/dimensions compare to the older version. Would this fit more comfortably under a plane seat?

[@Hellraiseros]

Nice video, thank you.

[@Engearment]

Glad you liked it!

[@kevin0815]

Love the review! Still an August 1st release date? Hopefully it’s the same for Canada!

[@benjaminbach]

apparently Toronto has them in store already

[@kevin0815]

@@benjaminbach That's awesome! Gotta check out the nearby stores here then. Thanks!

[@ryanlopez4918]

would you be able to make a video of this backpack vs the Refugio 26L??

[@zrfreeman97]

Very interesting update… looking forward to seeing it in person. I’m a little thrown off by the placement of the main grab handle, sitting right above the zipper line. Looks to sag a little extra when picking up because of the placement. Has that caused you any problems at all?

[@Engearment]

Hello! Good eyes on that. I have not had any problems with the handle placement. Though I do notice some sag when the bag is not full. But that happens to a lot of backpacks that I have used. Hope you get eyes on it in person and see if it is a good match for you!

[@Hewx2]

Have any of your black hole bags faced the delamination / flaking issue ? Hopefully this new finish fixes that.

[@tdhd]

Great review. I bought the 25L version today, the new material is really nice and looks sturdy. The backpack saw a price jump of 30 eur which was a bummer, but it didn’t stop me from buying it because I was honestly sold right away when I got my hands on the pack.

[@Hewx2]

Does the new one have a hydration pass through ?

[@jaroslavbela677]

@@Hewx2 I might be blind but it seems like there isn’t one. Or I just haven’t found it

[@tdhd]

@@Hewx2 no it doesn’t

[@nemoalius]

Awesome preview! Would love to see any other upcoming products from the Fall '23 lineup, too!

[@Engearment]

Thank you! Stay tuned, we hate 3 more Fall 23 items coming up here soon 😎🙌

[@stergemoster1785]

I really like the pocket distribution of this. Hope I didn't miss it, but what's the height of the backpack? (And do you know whether it'll come out in other colours as well?)

[@Engearment]

I think there will be more color as well

[@Hanswurst69694]

Great video. Which colours will come in?

[@Engearment]

Black, Lue, periwinkle, green (in this video)red and tan

[@sminj85]

Hey One more question. So the new material will be the same or similar to the black hole MLC back pack? Black hole MLC pack has the matte fabric as well. What is your thought?

[@stfuerik]

cant wait for this

[@Engearment]

Heck yes!

[@ItsFinic]

Hey Sean, thanks so much for the video, you inform me of everything I need to know! I’m hoping to grab one for the start of university; Do you know when in fall it would be released?

[@Engearment]

Fun handle! Looks like August 1st release.

[@ItsFinic]

@@Engearment Thank you for both things :)

[@smafaglar]

Do you know if the larger version will be updated?

[@Engearment]

Oh ya! I believe the entire black hole lineup is getting updated. I will double check my notes to be sure.

[@sveaemayr7191]

Thank you

[@Engearment]

You're welcome

[@Goated04]

Great Video! Will this be available online tomorrow or only in stores?

[@Engearment]

should be in stores as well. If not, here is direct link - snp.link/68c8f8d6

[@sminj85]

How did you get this pack so early? I contacted patagonia and they confirmed it will be released in Aug 1st. Btw have you seen the black one as well? Do you like the new matte fabric more than the current shiny one? I want to see how the matte black will look compared to the shiny black fabric. So the main difference between two is the fabric and the handle on the backside right?

[@Engearment]

We have a very good relationship with Patagonia and test gear out for them ahead of release. Really stoked to work with them! I have lots of Black Hole bags and packs and love them. I am quite used to the shiny fabric. But the Matte is even better. Yes, the main difference is the new material and handle.

[@sminj85]

@@Engearment thanks for your reply! One more question. Is the current shiny fabric is also pretty durable and water resistant

[@Ponkelina]

oooh love the colour and the matt appearance. I always wondered what those tiny loops in a line are for. I wonder what else people use them for or even better what Patagonia expect people to use them for

[@OrestisSeferoglou]

Great review as always! Do you feel that the new matte material is more prone to get dirt on it compared to the current shinny one?

[@Engearment]

Thank you! Great question. After using it daily for over a month, I did not notice any additional dirt acquisition. The PU surface seems to be very similar in durability and scuff resistance of the shinny material. I gave the pack to a friend who runs a landscaping business. So it’s going to be in some literally dirty daily situations. Keep you posted on that!

[@OrestisSeferoglou]

​@@Engearment Great! Thanks! Also do you know if the new updated versions will be available in Europe as well?

[@OrestisSeferoglou]

@@Engearment Also it would be interesting to share a photo or a short video with the two versions (shinny and matte) next to each other in order to see the differences on how it looks!🙃

[@johnniekeymer]

Do you know when this will be released in Australia?

[@zzd]

I have been think about getting a black hole 25L recently until I saw this video! The new updates seem to check all the things that I’m a little skeptical with the current version. Do you happen to know when this will be available? Can’t wait to get it when it releases!

[@Engearment]

Absolutely! They really did a great job with this line up. Fall 2023. Perhaps October 1. I will double check with them and if it is sooner, I will let you know!

[@danhunn1244]

Same, hopefully before October!

[@Engearment]

@@danhunn1244 Confirmed that it will be August 1 release :)

[@Hewx2]

Does this new one have a hydration pass through like the old ones?

[@jaroslavbela677]

No

[@JeffreyAlvarez1]

Will this fit comfortably under the seat on an airplane?

[@jaroslavbela677]

Yes

[@dynamodav]

What approximate date do you think they’ll be releasing this range?

[@Engearment]

I believe October 23. Some items might be a little earlier.

[@anthonyrampino7734]

Do you know when the availability date is for this pack and what the price will be? Thanks!

[@Engearment]

October 1. Perhaps sooner. Take care!

[@anthonyrampino7734]

@@Engearment thanks!

[@Engearment]

@@anthonyrampino7734 hey! I just double checked and it will likely be August 1. Much better!

[@anthonyrampino7734]

Will the straps and the sternum strap work with a 50” chest?

[@Engearment]

Good question. I think that might be pushing it. Depending on the placement on the sternum strap. I don’t think the shoulder straps would be an issue though.

[@anthonyrampino7734]

@@Engearment ok, thanks I appreciate it.

[@anthonyrampino7734]

@@Engearment that’s what I get for lifting weights!😁

[@Engearment]

@@anthonyrampino7734 glad it’s from training. You are a beast!! 💪😎🙌

[@anthonyrampino7734]

@@Engearment 😅yep, a lot of time in the gym over the years!

[@ovictorkim]

I have this backpack and I think it is not as good as people say. First of all, considering the price I think it should have a lumbar support. Secondly, I miss some internal organization. In this sens I think the Refugio backpack is far superior. Additionally, I think it has a very poor padding. TNF backpacks offer a much better back support.

[@lronSausage]

You forgot to mentioned that the new one removed the dedicated tablet slot, leaving only the laptop, and also removed the hydration hole.

[@Engearment]

Thank you for mentioning those things. I have never used the hydration port so I would never have thought to include that in the review.

[@lronSausage]

@@Engearment it's unfortunate. The new matt finish is great but they removed features from the bag which feels like cost cutting. The hydration port and tablet slot doesn't add any bulk or get in the way even if you don't use it. I personally carry a laptop + tablet quite often.

[@Scanlonc3]

Is this the Shrub color?

[@neko_bb_420]

when is the release date??

[@Engearment]

August 1

[@olaf2046]

Is this a new colorway?

[@Engearment]

Yep! And new material. 😎🤘

[@dmac2573]

Hi - are the sternum straps removable?

[@jaroslavbela677]

Yes

[@Turtlemilk]

Can it fit a 16inch MacBook Pro ?

[@KyleDavisMusic]

Yes.

[@Kilooondio]

Siento que, al igual que la refugio 30l y la versión hole pack de 32l le falta un cinturón pelvico para evitar daños en la espalada.

[@Kilooondio]

Tengo la refugio 30l y cuando llevo tanto peso me hace daño a la pesada y, además, el rebote al caminar de la mochila me hace más daño.

[@PaulCrousePhoto]

This is a useful video. Can this be used as a personal item on an airplane? Thanks!

[@Engearment]

I would think so. I have used similar size packs for that.

[@PaulCrousePhoto]

@@Engearment Thanks! I appreciate your prompt reply. I'll check out more vids on your channel.

[@Joe.dirt7909]

Water bottle pockets looks small

[@Donyale6230]

I wish it had a hip belt.

[@Engearment]

That could be useful!

[@Rafcoins.]

I have been checking prices and it is very expensive. In my opinion not worth it.

[@tangho]

I don't like the fabric look of it D:

[@jirikrajnak9047]

can't stop buying their product. it's a sickness.

[@Engearment]

We are afflicted too 😆