ENGINE CAUGHT FIRE ON TAKEOFF | Delta A330 Emergency at Las Vegas!

[@VASAviation]

That was a fantastic job by everyone! Your engine fails, you abort the takeoff before the grass. Another guy calls fire, you perform memory items and corresponding emergency checklists to fight the fire. All considered, you call for trucks, keep passengers safe onboard and coordinate a tug with company to move out of the way as soon as possible. Kudos guys.

[@jneill]

A week or so ago I was listening to ATC Newark Ground control when a pilot declared he was seeing smoke from a plane. everyone goes on alert and proceeds as needed. it was a hydraulic fluid leak with the fluid leaking onto hot brakes.

[@jhmcd2]

Its been 10 years since I've been in the cockpit, and I still remember those action items for a engine fire on the ground: Come to a complete stop, pull both handles on both engines, call the trucks, order an evacuation.

[@FurryWrecker911]

The classic "I think I'm fine" and your buddies assuring you "no, you are most definitely not fine my man. Sit down and drink some water"

[@junqueboi387]

I like how ATC & the other pilots were complimentary & supportive to the Delta flight crew. That was nice to hear.

[@16MedicRN]

Yeah, considering they're having people thrown off an airplane for wearing a veteran suic@de prevention shirt. I'm happy to see that Delta can handle an actual emergency.

[@Tony_glorified_bus_driver]

@@16MedicRN .. All it takes is 1 f/a to get "offended" by a pax t-shirt showing veteran suicide. My thoughts, as a captain, would be to kick f/a off the flight for suggesting that a pax's t shirt mentioning veteran suicide is unacceptable.

[@16MedicRN]

@@Tony_glorified_bus_driver the male f/a also made her change her shirt in front of him, bra-less (she wasn't a big lady). Thank you for being a reasonable person, but I'll never fly Delta again. They won't miss me and vice versa.

[@johnnemeth6913]

​@@Tony_glorified_bus_driverYou're legally required to have a certain number of flight attendants. If you throw one off, you might not be allowed to take off until a replacement arrives which might take some time. It sucks, but it's better to inconvenience one passenger and deal with the flight attendant afterwards.

[@NickelPlate_Triple7]

An A330 named “Delta 777”. Totally not confusing at all

[@Marcus_Pilot]

I thought the same

[@avrohomz4582]

I had the exact same thought

[@playard]

Well, it's a flight from LAS for sure 🎰

[@VegasHeavyAircraft]

I love capturing it for that reason, always generates a ton of engagement!

[@GWNorth-db8vn]

At least it wasn't on taxiway D.

[@oldRighty1]

Delta Tug 2's moment to shine. Kennedy Steve would be proud.

[@avrohomz4582]

Lol. I was thinking about how I saw him say that tugs are basically his lowest priority, I wonder if it would be a little different in such a case?

[@VegasHeavyAircraft]

Nice work indeed, I got a video of them towing it off the runway. Slowest thing I've ever seen. 😂

[@bigjoel3599]

Uuuuhgg the crawling Tug 2

[@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co]

lmao

[@kevinkauffman492]

pretty super today.

[@saint-cetacean]

"Delta 777 give fuel remaining" "Uhhh, pretty much all of it"

[@EstorilEm]

I thought that too, then in a plot twist this A330 actually only had 4hr fuel on it LOL

[@saint-cetacean]

​@@EstorilEmYeah, wait, that is quite strange, it's generally 4 hours flight time from Las Vegas to Atlanta and you always want extra in case of delay or emergency.... Strange!

[@QuovatisPS]

@@saint-cetacean I assume when they give fuel remaining it's at a low altitude where it's much less efficient to fly and using more fuel.

[@jimj5224]

@@saint-cetacean Since the Delta is currently "flying" at KLAS altitude of 2181.2 ft the fuel burn would be attrocious. Once up to 35K feet they will have plenty of fuel on board.

[@MeMe-gm9di]

"Look at the flightplan idk"

[@PetrolHeadBrasil]

The good side of aviation: no other plane complained, because they saw how serious the situation was! When one goes off course, the entire aviation community feels it, whether in an incident or accident. The ending was heart warming!

[@yungrichnbroke5199]

Aviation is pretty much all good sides except for operating costs lol

[@dl8513]

It’s flight 777 because it operates from Vegas. 777 being the lucky slots numbers.

[@VegasHeavyAircraft]

Yes, that's the reason.

[@joshilini2]

@@VegasHeavyAircraft It should be DL777 going INTO Vegas, the city of the Gold!

[@VegasHeavyAircraft]

@@joshilini2 It is. Delta uses the same flight number for the arrival and depature.

[@Asptuber]

@@VegasHeavyAircraft Thank you. Isn't that really weird? I mean how do you distinguish between arriving and departing?

[@russg1982]

This could be used as a great example of CRM, as even crews not on the flight deck with you are working towards a safe ending. Great teamwork

[@leonkernan]

As the tug came to the rescue, Kennedy Steve felt a shiver.

[@blancolirio]

Un-annunciated Engine Fire on the Ground! This is a BIG deal,!.... stby for an update. Thanks Victor!

[@my-yt-inputs2580]

Contained engine failure?

[@jhmcd2]

I remember giving a call like that to a fellow aircraft once. It was a bit scary for a minute, but we kept them from taking off. Felt proud of myself after that...until I realized I forgot to go to the bathroom and my plane didn't have one. That was a fun two hours.

[@jackielinde7568]

Was it a code brown situation?

[@jhmcd2]

@@jackielinde7568 No I made it, but I couldn't get that door opened fast enough.

[@paulstejskal]

You’re a hero.

[@chiantiar]

Hearing the other pilots reassuring the #777 crew job well done was really cool.

[@amylynncreaney2245]

Crew Resource Management across multiple aircraft, excellent work!

[@Zerbey]

I mean if you're gonna have an engine let go and catch fire, on the runway is the absolute best place for it to happen. Well handled by everyone.

[@VegasHeavyAircraft]

Caught this on the radio when it happened, was scary to hear. Was very windy on this day. Went over to the spot and captured a video of them towing off the runway. Glad to see everyone was safe. Nice work by everyone on handling this incident.

[@TexasServiceDogTeam]

Will you post it?

[@paulstejskal]

+1.

[@Nuhaantje]

5:05 an extra compliment for not letting you be convinced by someone else without some guarantees. If he would run over that light het company would be held responsible beside risking damaging the aircraft more then it already was because of the emergency. This is aviation at its best.

[@VASAviation]

Absolutely

[@bobschuon5908]

Smartest move ever - Having a bad day, let's not make it worse. Excellent judgement by the crew.

[@untitled6981]

The team spirit in the aviation industry never ceases to amaze me. The comms at the end are amazing

[@charlesgee3003]

Well handled by everyone

[@pf6797]

I would fly with that captain any time.

[@jayschafer1760]

Agreed. Quickly and firmly took control. Refused the temptation to try to maneuver out on his own, as there was a lot of risk in that move and it could have made the situation worse.

[@applec2400]

I would not.

[@kwep6439]

@@applec2400 why

[@just_some_commenter]

I would fly with him any time, except I would rather not fly with him on that one time when he had an engine fire.

[@applec2400]

Engine failure and off the runway and you decline trucks? Seconds are crucial. Worst case you send them back but it’s alarming you’d decline ARFF in a situation like this.

[@chriscooper5626]

I'm sure there was a better way to phrase this than "We're still good to land 26 left right". Fortunately the subtitles on here are "26L, right?" but 2x harder if just listening to a radio (and doing other things)

[@richarddaugherty8583]

"We're still good to land 26 left, correct?" would have been far better for sure!

[@Laogeodritt]

It's ironically hardest to catch these things when you're stressed, if you're used to using "right?" in your day-to-day language. Depending on how short they were on final, that might've been a somewhat stressful confirmation to ask during a critical phase of flight. "Confirm cleared to land runway 26L?" would probably be better, with "confirm" being standard ICAO phraseology. (I don't know what FAA standard phraseology would be, if different.)

[@lyaneris]

​@@Laogeodritt"good to land" would have been appropriate, since this was talking to a ground vehicle/ airport ops

[@pererau]

As an advice nurse who takes patient calls on the phone all day, I totally get this. I constantly catch myself asking questions like, "your pain is in your left arm, right?"

[@flowingafterglow629]

One time when I landed in IND we blew a tire on landing. We had to wait on the runway for a tow. If you don't know, IND had a notoriously long taxi back then. The runway basically started at the terminal and you landed going away, so you'd have to taxi all the way back from the end of the runway. It took forever even in taxi mode. I don't remember how long it took the tow to get there.

[@jamiesuejeffery]

I guess what happens in Vegas really does stay in Vegas.

[@BabyMakR]

What's the saying? Better to be on the ground wishing you're in the air than in the air wishing you're on the ground. If the engine had to blow, right at the start of a take-off roll is the place for it to happen, instead of at V1. I was wondering why they didn't get a marshaller out there since he said he'd be comfortable making the turn with that, but then realised the engine they'd want to use to help make the sharp turn is the one that was damaged.

[@johnnemeth6913]

That's why they have rudders and steerable front gear. For taxiing, the engine would be barely above idle, so I wouldn't expect it to be that much of a problem. Although, I also wonder why the airport didn't just get a marshaller out there. Once the plane was straightened out, they probably could have taxied on their own.

[@Juttutin]

Pilot's are giving fuel remaining in both hours and mass fairly often now, but somehow I don't think flying time remaining mattered too much in this case!

[@paulstejskal]

Yeah ATC and ARFF needs to figure out a standard for this. Just do pounds.

[@ds78613]

@@paulstejskal but both matter, especially in emergencies. It's up to the crew not ATC to compute consumption and in emergencies, altitude, being down an engine, and myriad other factors affect consumption. ATC needs to know both for planes that are still flying because of fire fighting and how long the plane can stay in the air. I'm sure in this case it was "muscle memory" to give both.

[@paulstejskal]

@ don’t hear what I’m not saying. I’m not saying either way makes a difference, but some controllers ask for weight of fuel and some ask for hours left.

[@DeltaEntropy]

Time and weight serve different purposes though. Time lets ATC know what the aircrew can accept in terms of waits/holds, go around attempts, diversions, etc. Weight lets ARFF know what they’re looking at in terms of potential fire or spill, so they can stage their resources appropriately.

[@paulstejskal]

@@DeltaEntropy Agreed. Which is why they should just figure out what is needed, or just request both when ATC asks the emergency pilot(s) for fuel in pounds or hours.

[@danc3488]

Wow. Good job by everyone, that could've been a lot worse. Wonder why they refused the trucks the first time they were asked. Maybe because they "had no indications up here" of a fire, which in itself is concerning.

[@jyggalag169]

That was likely exactly why, as far as they knew it was a contained engine failure, it STILL may have been a contained engine failure even with the circumstances but for obvious reasons they did not take that chance.

[@MeMe-gm9di]

You don't need firetrucks if all you have is an engine failure on takeoff. Just makes stuff harder for everyone involved. However, they had a fire, so yeah, trucks needed.

[@lyaneris]

​@@jyggalag169It likely was contained, if there was no debris, since it's just about stuff departing the engine.

[@Xaunoki]

Professionally done.

[@simon199418]

Delta 777 heavy, obviously it's an a330.

[@jayschafer1760]

Yes, gets confusing between the model and and flight number. 777 is a very popular flight number to use for flights to/from Vegas, for obvious reasons.

[@VegasHeavyAircraft]

It was an A350 for a long time. Delta 777 Heavy is my favorite callsign to capture.

[@blockbertus]

@@jayschafer1760 Wasnt a lucky number for them after all. ;-)

[@djsmith2871]

Dell-tah tug TWO...

[@TheGospelQuartetParadise]

Professionalism all around.

[@480pilot]

Way to work together gang!!

[@Repairman87]

30 minutes for tow? Where is it coming from Reno?

[@carbonking53]

Tug driver was on break and playing the slots in the concourse

[@Bright_Broccoli]

I think so. 😊

[@vincent412l7]

30 minutes from Reno to LAS? Maybe if you're flying.

[@terrybarnett273]

Doubt they do much towing at LAS for DL. And definitely not the day shift. Takes a bit to get organized, then it’s a hell of a long way out there in a slow tug. 30 minutes is actually pretty quick all things considered.

[@tomarmadiyer2698]

*breathing heavy* Who needed the row? *Dropping paddle*

[@JimMacintosh]

Very well handled by everyone here

[@LJ-gn2un]

Road trip! Delta calling overtime for a 330 engine change. CHA- CHING says line maintenance techs! 🤑 😎

[@mattc.310]

Well done by all involved.

[@jackielinde7568]

Victor, I don't know if this is something you want to make a video about or have another channel handle the topic (Maybe Juan at Blancolirio?). But with all the questions about "Why it took so long to get a tug out," it might be a good idea to have a video about "What happens when an aircraft is disabled on the runway/taxiway of an airport, and why it takes so long for the #$%#$%#%#$ tug to get there."

[@Arcadiez]

Good job crew, no need to evacuate if the engine is deemed secure, higher risk of ppl getting hurt or worse.

[@dwDragon88]

Great job by everyone it looks like. I thought it was funny that the pilot gave fuel remaining in hours while sitting there very immobilized on the runway nearly on the grass, but good on him for having the standard info ready to go. Also, I feel for all of the planes lined up there watching this happening thinking, man this just turned into a long day...

[@saint-cetacean]

Probably the easiest calc of his life - just remember the takeoff load he punched in 20 minutes prior!

[@ApollonDriver]

Delta pilot you have swerved out and stopped on the runway, you WILL get the trucks man.

[@ea7654]

That delta pilot 🧑‍✈️ sounds dead before he took off 😂

[@NBT2469]

Zombie pilot 😂😂😂

[@CMDRFandragon]

#2 Engine: Hey, hey pilots!! Hey Pilots! Wanna see something funny? Pilots: What? #2 Engine: *Engine Failure* Entire Airport: OH COME ON!!!!

[@realulli]

"Engine farts out bits and pieces of engine"... ;-)

[@bardo0007]

Imagine if this happened a few seconds later, I am sure they would have handled it well anyway, sounds like experienced pilots

[@johnnixon2504]

Red Dog 40 has been busy over the last month.

[@zgaviation6481]

Second Delta A330 engine fire in 2 weeks. Had one in Boston on the 22nd as well

[@VASAviation]

Flight number?

[@zgaviation6481]

@@VASAviation DL112 BOS-FCO, October 22nd, around 2256Z. I was working YX5716 and we got stuck on the ramp during the ground stop.

[@heatherscompletelackofchil6127]

I was hearing engine fire and then the dude said 272 souls on board and 65 THOUSAND pounds of fuel and I literally went 'fuuuuuck'

[@Rhaman68]

There are no good fires on aircraft. Any sign of fire requires emergency declaration and fire trucks requested!!! Glad it turned out well. Ret Captain

[@itjustlookslikethis]

If this was a Boeing aircraft, it would be front page news for a week.

[@aviationmayhem]

Fairplay the tugs going to pull them off, going above and beyond🤣

[@retiredatc8720]

Flying an A330 on the flight DAL777 seems a mismatch.

[@soccerguy2433]

🎰🎰🎰 looks like they didn't get a good roll

[@thatinventionsus]

The only question from a newbie is why it took 30 minutes to dispatch a tug? Why can't there be other quicker options (borrow from another company, for example)?

[@sarikagoode1505]

There may be liability reasons they can’t just grab some other airline’s personnel to tug them.

[@dustinandrews3223]

Look at that congestion.... and before the fire.

[@JDrapic]

Yeah, Vegas is one of the busiest airports in the world by flight volume (I think 5th in 2023). Lower passenger numbers, but lots of smaller or private flights. Then you've got common blustery days that might slow things up, high temperatures and altitude that come with performance penalties, plus sharing air space with North Las Vegas (general aviation), Henderson Executive, the air force base, Janet going to and from the test sites, and helicopter tours that go to Lake Mead and Grand Canyon -- and that's just the routine stuff. Especially if this was at the start or end of a weekend, things stack up quickly.

[@msmeredith]

Wow, I wonder how many people got a front row seat for that?! Ya know, besides the Delta passengers LOL

[@bardo0007]

Some of them were probably thinking I need to get out of here

[@batshevanivylerner8582]

Yes, there was a nice long conga line, lots of people with a front row seat. I wonder how the delta passengers felt. Veering to the side like that must have been a 'tad' disconcerting!!!

[@curtiswilson233]

The right-side passengers in the waiting aircraft got to watch their flights get delayed by 40 minutes in real time

[@willkretz1571]

I fly Spirit, just send it.

[@Mark-Dibble]

Neat!

[@AudieHolland]

Imagine being a passenger on a plane landing, first thing you spot on the ground is a plane on fire.

[@jhsevs]

3:30 left right? Roger that, Roger. My friend Charlie is at charlie.

[@ramon3221]

they can only last 4 hours on the ground with 65000 pounds of fuel?!? o_O That APU must have some hefty fuel burn...

[@franciscoruiz7389]

Let's go Harry Reid Int'l! We always doing everything professional here. Team concept!

[@bd5289]

Wait...an Airbus 330 is operating flight 777? I can't differentiate them already, now they are throwing shade!

[@othername1000]

Sounded so disappointed to be getting the trucks

[@anttirytkonen11]

Interesting that that Delta 555 didn't say "triple five". 🤔

[@Kwpolska]

Does every company have their own tugs? That sounds like something that should be provided by the airport.

[@jakint0sh]

Well, who’d pay for the tugs and tug operators if they weren’t airline owned and operated? Somebody’s got to foot the bill and I don’t think the airport really wants to deal with figuring out who.

[@Kwpolska]

@@jakint0sh The airline is already paying through the nose for usage of the airport, those fees should cover the use of a tug in an emergency. It’s in the airport’s best interest to get the plane off the runway ASAP.

[@lyaneris]

​@@KwpolskaIt depends. Sometimes tugs in these scenarios get organized by the airport, other times by the airport. Also, tugs slow and the airport's big

[@xwafflesx]

"delta tug 2?"

[@StyxRiverGynoid]

I see what you did there :)

[@timblack33]

Does delta typically fly widebodies on this route?

[@slyhatjones]

@2:05 caption should be "I think two six right is gonna be shut down" not "I think it's a great idea to shut down"

[@beyondinsanitybr]

Great situation where the electric front wheel and cameras would have solved the situation a lot quicker! Don't know why these are not adopted by the whole industry as of now!

[@MichaelVanHeemst]

Funny how Delta Flight 777 is an A330

[@playard]

Fire in Las Vegas again? Is LAS cursed or something... at least 3 incidents recently on this channel 😮

[@anthonymiller7992]

" team concept" Any questions?

[@georgewchilds]

Team sport.

[@amessman]

Anyone know what went wrong? Contained engine failure?

[@justing42]

it was a compressor stall

[@otis4928]

How do we contact you with incidents of interest which I cannot post on social media myself. I'd love to hear the radio communication of a unlatched TR ripping off an #2 eng on takeoff roll out of DFW on 10/27.

[@VASAviation]

Email

[@SovaKlr]

Legitimate question, why does it take 30 minutes to get a tug over there to get the plane moved?

[@blackmusik109]

There's a lot going on behind the scenes. First Delta ops has to find a crew and equipment to tow the aircraft(it's a large airport with lots of staff so shouldn't take too long). Next they have to coordinate with airport ops for an escort onto live taxiways and runways since not everyone has the endorsement/training to operate on live taxiways and runways and plan a route. Once that's set up, it takes additional time since tugs generally don't move very fast. I personally was never able to get one above 10 mph. I forgot to mention that they also have see what gates are available. Widebodies can't fit into every gate and sometimes there are shortages of gates.

[@jss27560]

@@blackmusik109 tugs have a lot of torque and not a lot of horsepower.

[@jackielinde7568]

@@blackmusik109 Now I want to see a drag race between tugs. Shouldn't be hard to arrange, sicne they're at some place that already has a long, flat strip of concrete. :P

[@blackmusik109]

@@jackielinde7568 I may have done one against a baggage tug while driving a belt loader 🤫

[@jackielinde7568]

@@blackmusik109 how did it turn out?

[@triviszla1536]

I can hear the collective groaning of all those passengers.

[@noeldown1952]

Is that Jordan Peterson flying the Delta A330?

[@ZX-mg5xs]

That caotain sounds wasted 🥴 ehhh negative ehhh yeahhhh!

[@oliverjumelle]

Did they all have to shut down engines?

[@johnnemeth6913]

Why burn fuel when you're not moving for an hour or more. Do that, you could find yourself heading back to the refueling station as you no longer have the legally required minimum.

[@justing42]

@@johnnemeth6913there is no “refueling station”

[@justing42]

yes they shut the engines down. Has nothing to do with burning fuel….it is in case you need to evacuate the aircraft. In an emergency, you are done using fuel and therefore couldn’t care less about burning it. You also shut them down prior to towing.

[@jackielinde7568]

Yes, so they can save fuel. Planes only carry enough fuel to make the flight under suboptimal conditions, plus a margin for diversions and emergencies. They rarely carry max fuel because more fuel means more weight and more fuel spent moving that weight. Idling on the taxiway for 30 minutes cuts into that allotment.

[@jakint0sh]

@@justing42 Pretty sure he was referring to the backlog of planes waiting to depart on 26R

[@BluefearHere]

Is the whole "company tugs" thing a US concept? I'm sure in other airports around the world the tugs are part of the airport fleet, so tower just says "get a tug to 26R" or whatever? I might be wrong here.

[@justing42]

you are

[@SirIdot]

I worked at a European airport many years ago. Every airline or handling company had their own equipment, although one company sometimes "stole" our equipment which caused a big conflict. The gates were shared among all airlines though.

[@lyaneris]

I know of a situation where a Lufthansa flight took off from Berlin without luggage, because they paid less than any other airline 😂

[@avrohomz4582]

Anybody else get the feeling that as soon as that ATC finished transmitting "negative trucks" he then called them out? Also, when the pilot said they had no indication, that sounds like another failure on the plane?

[@elkhunter8664]

The controller indicated he had already rolled trucks by the time Delta asked for them.

[@avrohomz4582]

@@elkhunter8664 yeah, that's pretty much what I'm commenting about

[@justing42]

no

[@typhoon2827]

Getting pulled-off in front of all those other people... 🤭

[@andyl5134]

DAMMIT BOEING! Again!?!?!?

[@nathanrussell2977]

Airbus ☕️

[@kaimeier8528]

Wonder if ca turned into the wind on purpose for the fire or it yawed right and that’s how it stopped

[@positivelyacademical1519]

They initially reported it as engine failure (and later confirmed they didn’t know it was on fire). So my money is on asymmetric thrust (left engine full power, right engine off, aircraft pivots right).

[@CanyonBlue737Capt]

The wind was 200/29G36. They were turned away from the wind.

[@AthosRac]

Why negative on trucks? cmon

[@jakint0sh]

Engine failure does not necessarily mean fire, and getting the trucks involved when not really needed is kind of a hassle for everybody, and they didn’t have any fire inductions in the cockpit so they had no idea. But as soon as they were told they had an engine fire by the other pilots, they called for trucks, which is *definitely* the right move.

[@TheMadSqu]

I have no idea about how airports work. So my question is how can it take 30 min to organise this tug? Are there only so few available?

[@watashiandroid8314]

This seemed like a quick response for the tug compared to other videos posted here! It always baffles me how these sorts of ground support vehicles can take so long.

[@rustymustard7798]

If they're tugging other aircraft it'll take time to finish, unhook, reset or change any equipment or towbars needed, maybe refuel the tug, drive a mile down a taxiway at at like 10mph, maybe stopping to get clearances or for other taxi traffic. There's at least a half a dozen things to do that will take at least 5 minutes each. There's not an 'extra' tug just sitting there waiting for this to happen. Or they'd still have to get someone to the 'extra' tug, start it up, warm it up, kick the tires and do all the same checklist stuff before they can even start rolling. Tugs cost money, take up space, and are on a working schedule, their time is probably planned and blocked out so none of them sit around wasting resources.

[@DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC]

Might depend on the top speed of the tug, and how far the end of the runway is from where the tug parks? Just a thought.

[@southseasflying]

From another response on this - They also need to coordinate to have an airport ops escort, or at some airports a air-ground radio to speak with ground control/tower. Additionally at some airports the driver would need a special qualification for towing a plane (tow is generally for longer movements, a bit different than a pushback from the gate) - which due to training they may not have on hand. Usually tow qualified drivers are with maintenance rather than at the terminal side.

[@justing42]

@@rustymustard7798it will take time period…they don’t move fast enough- the drivers or the tug

[@ooinvsaoo]

Why can’t airports just send the tug. I feel like company coordinating adds time to this mess

[@watashiandroid8314]

This seemed like a quick response for the tug comparing to other videos posted here! It always baffles me how these sorts of ground support vehicles can take so long.

[@DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC]

@@watashiandroid8314 Might depend on the top speed of the tug, and how far the end of the runway is from where the tug parks? Just a thought.

[@Pbairsoftman]

Airports don’t own tugs, and each company has different procedures

[@southseasflying]

@@watashiandroid8314 They also need to coordinate to have an airport ops escort, or at some airports a air-ground radio to speak with ground control/tower. Additionally at some airports the driver would need a special qualification for towing a plane (tow is generally for longer movements, a bit different than a pushback from the gate) - which due to training they may not have on hand. Usually tow qualified drivers are with maintenance rather than at the terminal side.

[@watashiandroid8314]

@southseasflying I never considered the possibility of different qualifications of tug drivers. Makes sense though. It would cost more money to train everyone how to drive around on taxiways when most would only stay in the gate area.

[@jedknutson8373]

What in the world is going on at LAS??

[@GoofysHatBand]

Some bad luck on the way out of Vegas. I'm not a fan of those A330s.

[@EstorilEm]

The Ops guys are funny sometimes, they’re around aircraft every day yet in many situations, they seem to know absolutely nothing about them. 🙈 Asking a (heavy, fueled) wide body to make a hard LEFT turn with the #2 engine out is kinda ridiculous, they’d need a tow regardless. They might as well perform a runway inspection / FOD sweep ASAP while they’re out there and waiting for the tug, then they can clear that runway as soon as Delta vacates.

[@justing42]

they can do it…who knows nothing about aircraft again?

[@ATFDFF]

Huh? They absolutely can…single engine taxiing (including turns to both the engine and non-engine side) occurs on departure all the time.

[@naveedquadeer3752]

Delta is trolling Boeing by using a widebody A330 on flight 777, a domestic flight to their main hub. The A330 is a reasonable substitute for the 777 especially on domestic routes. A few years ago Delta used to fly the 777, but they retired all of them for economic reasons.

[@mrpielover615]

Nah, it's cause it's to las vegas. 777 are lucky slot numbers

[@naveedquadeer3752]

@@mrpielover615 I live in Vegas and completely forget about the strip. I spend more time avoiding it than actually visiting it. Vegas is like anywhere else outside of the resort corridor.

[@bardo0007]

@@naveedquadeer3752 Well maybe not like anywhere else, you live in a rocky desert

[@justing42]

you have no idea how airlines work

[@Szergej33]

It's so strange to see the aircraft has to organise a tug from their own comppany in cases like this. They have all the ARFF and tons of other vehicles, surely they could have a tug as well? Or if not, Ops should be able to call a tug from Delta and usher them where they are needed.

[@justing42]

Airlines (maintenance ) don’t deal with airport ops unless we are taxiing a plane or towing one. They don’t call us and say “we need ya to _____” and if they did we would tell them to pound sand.