Engine Rebuild, Block Prep! Needs a sleeve?

Getting the block ready to go to the machine shop! Did a quick cylinder hone hoping the block would clean up and not need a sleeve! Unfortunately, it’s gonna need a sleeve!

[@CTemple82]

I really appreciate not only how informative your videos are but how you break it down so that pretty much anybody can understand what your talking about. Cause for someone like myself that has quite a bit of general common knowledge, but not a lot of hands on experience with this stuff, I can really learn a lot and get a good understanding of the difference between how I think something should work compared to how it actually does work and also different situations that explain why you shouldn’t do this or that. So thanks again sir, keep up the good work and look forward to the next one.👍

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Thanks

[@jeremyeubanks2387]

I've been around racing my whole life .. as a racer and as a on looker ... I've learned a lot from your channel .. things make since to me know that never did before . Thank you

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Cool, that is what I'm after

[@backyardbuilttrucks1]

My dad honed stuff but he would use gasoline , said it pulled all the crap as he put it out of cylinder walls. Always told me poor people have poor ways work with what you have .He never had a issue on anything . love watching your videos you actually show real world work.

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Thanks, that’s a good tip for gas. I can see his thought process on it. May try it next.

[@ChevyMustang1]

Glad the damage wasn't that bad it certainly could have been a lot worse. But engine failures are part of the game we have all been there unfortunately. Keep up the great videos

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Part of it for sure, we just have to keep pushing forward!

[@robertdouglas3456]

I like how you turned your block onto a true 4 bolt main on the front & rear of the main bearings! Great modification!..

[@johnnylopez7861]

Tj you always give great content, cant wait to see it come alive. Good Luck

[@stevesolo16]

Not sure if I would call that a Hone. It's more likely called a Crosshatching. I would consider welding up the divot and re-boring that cylinder wall. It doesn't look like you need to go so far as to sleeve it with a cheap sleeve. When you take shortcuts, bad things happen. If the skirt of the piston passes the "cleaned up" spots at the bottom of the bore, weld it and re-bore it so the bottom of the sleeve extends to where it is supposed to be. I can make your block look and function like new, without taking any shortcuts. After welding up the bore bottoms, it's pretty straight forward milling all the bore bottoms uniformly. I know Brodix has a block repair service. I'd see if DART has one as well. Aluminum race blocks use DARTON sleeves, Wet and Dry. The sleeves you look to be using are Melling's @ $20.-$30. a piece? DARTON sleeves are made from a high-end, very hard material with nickel and silicon and are expensive. They register together along the deck. If your machinist isn't familiar with them see about talking to a different machine shop. I can tell how much love you put into your race car. Sometimes, when they are injured, you need to take them to a specialist...just like, it's one of your children. Best of luck 2U

[@ldtenenoff]

good morning john great tech info once again u make it look so simple pimple congrates on ur sucess keepem coming plez

[@donrutter6765]

600-800 RPM hone, about 10 times per bore. Sleeves should be used when you step up power levels to nitrous etc. They are stronger than a cast iron cylinder.

[@stevekissel605]

We r just finishing a 400 block with a 327 crank to meet the 360 cubic inch rule on a pulling tractor for my nephew. I had to use spacer bearings.

[@whiplashmachine]

We did the 353's also. Was our go to for super late model builds.

[@6.liter-beater]

Even running the cobalt powertools I switched to those as well I've had my set a few years can't tell the difference from the milwaukee 👍 good video. I'm in the same boat with my sbc!

[@roushstagetwo]

Just watched this video , some good info here , had to subscribe

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Thanks

[@arnierobertson]

I've got a gm/dart raised cam block similar to the one you have . I have heard a lot of good things about it. I'm having to replace one cylinder due to damage. It will be 434 cubic inches once I'm done I'm also going to be using a Bryant crank.

[@arnierobertson]

Any advice you can give me is greatly appreciated.

[@mr.know_it_all]

Run it 🙌🏼 oil ring is just a scraper right? Plus the boost will blow any windage downwards 👌🏼

[@TurboJohnRacing]

I don’t know if that damage come from this time or not. It had been smoking and getting some old on that plug for the last few months. The last blowup we sleeved three holes but that one may have been hurt and we decided to run it. But you are correct once it got up in rpm in on loosely did not smoke, LOL. It also did not have a lot of excessive blow by in the catch can.

[@robjones6488]

Great vid.

[@antprice2012]

Nice work bro!

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Thanks

[@Stunna710]

I love ur mechanic style more is always less the man with most doesnt always come up top

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Yes, do more with as little as possible!

[@timruiter5460]

Like the tech stuff

[@1clnsdime1]

Been a few years since I have been in a old school small block. You can for sure see why the LS takes so much with the 6 bolt mains and how the caps tie into the bottom. For the old style blocks the Dart blocks are hard to beat. How many passes u look to get before tearing down and rolling in some bearings?

[@TurboJohnRacing]

If it is still running at the end of the season, I usually pull it. But the last few years, I have not been able to make it all season without some type of failure. lol

[@1clnsdime1]

@@TurboJohnRacing When all this youtube money starts rolling in you can go big time like ol Jon Doc LOL. Still awesome seeing racers like you that are balling on a budget. Making good power and running well used parts and keeping up with some of the guys spending a lot more money. That is what it's all about.

[@glennmanchester1568]

Ls is the shit for sure but. Lol this is fun too

[@thatonebrittany]

I have always heard those berry honers called "a dingleberry honer " lol

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Yes, lol

[@mikeeagle2653]

Lmao 😂

[@Raven-fu1zz]

I blame the roadkill series

[@devanerwin1570]

John, good video, what grit is the berry hone 320 or ?? Thx

[@TurboJohnRacing]

I don’t know, it’s not marked. It’s one Bryan has had for years that we have always used. Feels like 220-320 it’s rough, but not too rough.

[@devanerwin1570]

@@TurboJohnRacing Thx for the answer,

[@mr.know_it_all]

It’s just to de glaze the cylinder, it does not have enough pressure outwards to scratch a cylinder

[@jdubcbr600]

I bet it's 220 grit, the small amount he ran it roughed it up pretty good. I use a 320 grit and it takes a little more effort to get them looking that way.

[@suitsracing8190]

Will the Loctite between the bearing and the spacer not cause a clearance issue with the bearing?

[@TurboJohnRacing]

It is going to be a very light coat, then snapping the bearings together. I will check clearance, if we need to we can polish the crank a little extra.

[@suitsracing8190]

@@TurboJohnRacing i got ya hey brother it's nice to see somebody out here on a budget good content I'm on the budget as well trying to make it happen hopefully have the car together soon tracks look real good up that way might have to head up there from Georgia

[@foghornleghorn8536]

Sounds like you might need to move up to a better set of rods.

[@mr.know_it_all]

Foghorn how do we know the rod failed? He said the rod journal was scarred.

[@foghornleghorn8536]

@@mr.know_it_all It's mentioned in the first 30 seconds of the video.

[@puunersjabski6487]

Ypu should but a big block.chevy in the back half car.

[@davidmcnerney3048]

How do u like the Kobalt cordless stuff.My old dewalt stuff bit the dust and I like how cheap the Kobalt batts are.

[@TurboJohnRacing]

We have not had them long, but so far we love them! Very strong, and seems to have good battery life!

[@wilsonmartin621]

Dingleberry hone

[@mikeeagle2653]

Put those white toes away. Scary man. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TurboJohnRacing]

I love me some flips. OSHA approves! LOL

[@rolandtamaccio3285]

,,, I would not sleeve that .

[@skylinefever]

Wow, how many horror stories has this engine had? 9:56 given the number of people who do that, you'd think there would be an extra thick bearing for that purpose.

[@TurboJohnRacing]

That block is very though!

[@glennmanchester1568]

They do have a bearing for that purpose and I've been told they would run good a 377 rev like a small block but wind like a big. Block but due to the 400 blocks being not so plentiful everyone went the other way a 400 crank and a 350 block 30 over a 383 stroker the 377 is a stroker too just destroked a 400

[@mgreene011]

Wish I could hang out and learn from you turbo John.

[@Moparmaga-1]

Yeah no crap, I'm all the way in (leftyville) Seattle WA

[@mdelgado8386]

Hey John are those OSA approved steel toes shoes

[@TurboJohnRacing]

lol, I'll make sure we get some vids some time when I'm welding and grinding in the flops......lol

[@keefespencer1173]

What C.I.D is your engine a 383? Being that you have a 350 crank in a 400 block?

[@TurboJohnRacing]

364, 3.34 Bryant crank, 4.165 bore

[@glennmanchester1568]

A 383 is the other way a 400 crank in a 350 block 30 over he has destroked a 400 with zero change in bore it will run good watch you'll be impressed

[@anotherbluenova6358]

What are the big male AN fittings on the bell housing area for? Ive never seen this...

[@TurboJohnRacing]

The iron eagle block has no built in oil filter. I have to run a remote oil filter, the one out the bottom of the block is going to the remote filter, the fitting on top closest to intake is the return from the filter.

[@anotherbluenova6358]

@@TurboJohnRacing damn. My project is nickle and diming me to death with all these damn fittings and hoses.

[@TurboJohnRacing]

@@anotherbluenova6358 Yes, I hate it when I think I'm almost done and then the little small things kill the pockets.....lol

[@FDW_Veezy]

What's going on John.... I was wondering do u help with tuning and wiring I need a few pointers

[@TurboJohnRacing]

I can try to help, wiring is for sure not my strongest asset

[@FDW_Veezy]

@@TurboJohnRacing well I have it pretty much wired up but I dont know where the sensor reference and the ground for the sensors go. Is it ok to chassis ground or to the pinouts and how does the PID trim work

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Sensor grounds need to go back to the ecu. Search KZbin for Devin Vanderhoof, he has some great Holley vids!

[@FDW_Veezy]

@@TurboJohnRacing ok I appreciate it

[@wilsonmartin621]

Hey John quick question dot-dot-dot why do some people say running on alcohol and then other stay running on methanol when it's essentially the same thing correct??? I guess it is just preference

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Methanol and alcohol is the same! But there are different grades, a lot of bracket racers use the industrial methanol. I only run VP M1. But I did run out of M1 at the track several years ago, bought 5 gallons of the track industrial stuff and burnt the plug straps on 2 plugs the next pass. That solidified my only VP choice.

[@wilsonmartin621]

Okay perfect answer good looking out

[@glennmanchester1568]

It makes a 377 if the 400 block is 30 over

[@TurboJohnRacing]

This one is 364, the crank is an old nascar deal. 3.34 stroke

[@BRUCEPARTS1]

How many runs do you put on a set of rods

[@TurboJohnRacing]

Most people usually put 80-125 passes on aluminum rods, but I have seen people also make hundreds! Depends on how hard you are pushing them, and if you pull them out frequently to check. For me, I usually buy used ones that have low passes, then run it till it kicks one out, lol....that’s what it seems anyway!

[@anotherbluenova6358]

BME claims their AL rods will get the same life as a steel rod. Also claims 200k miles on a street engine.

[@mr.know_it_all]

Shawn Thornton BME is the best. 👍🏼

[@deondimicks8159]

How much h did u pay for the block

[@TurboJohnRacing]

I bought it used about 6 years ago, got a great deal but don’t remember exactly.

[@deondimicks8159]

@@TurboJohnRacing oh ok me and my dad wanna build a turbo gen 1 turbo small block Chevy... we just never built one before