Engine vs Electric Motor

[@mikeselectricstuff]

I'd be interested in hearing about the process of approval needed to get converted cars on the road, and any insurance implications.

[@eLandyAdventures]

...and example insurance providers would be great!

[@crosisofborg5524]

Approval?

[@jase_llan]

I guess it all depends if he's cutting the chassis and/or monocoque - if so then the cars will require an IVA but otherwise a letter to the DVLA might suffice. I say a letter because the log book only allows you to change engine number and capacity, rather than changing to an electric car!

[@joeabad5908]

Exactly my problem once I succeed in converting my planned Suzuki mini pick up convertion (sometine 2023). Our local Land Transportation Office do not have a process to register converted cars, sick.. But, Im not stopping my project. Just doing it, damm the torpedoes..

[@Todesnuss]

I don't have a car or even a license but I was into RC cars when brushless motors and LiPo batteries quickly made combustion performance obsolete. It's just so funny to me to see full sized cars struggle with the same challenges of suddenly having access to way too much power rather than chasing every little incremental increase.

[@ianh9696]

I know that IF I ever win the lottery I want this guy to convert an SD1 no matter what the cost.

[@oldschool1993]

Here in the states we need to get a smog check every year to renew the license. The test stations plug into the OBD port and check for all those emissions results, so even though the electric would be 100% clean, it would not pass. Cars that are over 25 years old are exempt from smog testing, so it looks like conversions of older cars is the only option until the bureaucrats catch up.

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

I really want to thank you for calling an engine an engine and for calling a motor a motor! I get so tired of all of these younger and older guys thinking that these words are interchangeable, they are not!

[@brianterrill9587]

There's a guy in the desert east of Los Angeles who put a starter motor from an A-6 Intruder in his Karman Ghia.

[@phillipmitchell5879]

Re: Shared Taillights - Ferrari 250 GTE & Fiat 1200 Spyder (Cabriolet), c. 1958-1965.

[@maguaNZ]

Brilliant. Great to see the motor and engine side by side for perspective.

[@michaelbedard7859]

I'm new here to your channel and I'm shocked how into your video I am getting. Your explanation to non technical person is perfectly understandable. Thank you.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Thanks and welcome

[@rolandschoenke1840]

Hi, firstly I'm in canada but we don't have someone with your openest here, love your channel. I ( with a friend ) import Kei trucks and would love to see a radical ev conversion on one. My personal unit is a '96 Honda Acty.

[@lesklower7281]

In your previous video on the Fiat 500 l was just wondering what sort of electric motor you put l was much releived you put a 50hp electric motor in it and this video you showed the various electric motors you use and that the original gearbox is used in some electric conversion you do and that you match the hp to the gearbox in the car

[@seancain7305]

Great re-boot to your channel ECC, bang on target. Thanks for you time to make the films, look forward to more.

[@rootieboy]

Puts things into perspective. The simplicity just makes sense on a mass scale for automakers

[@rootieboy]

@@alanmay7929 For daily driving it meets just about everybody's needs. At the moment it is a bit cost prohibitive for most as most people cannot buy a $35,000-$40,000 car. Most people are buying used cars between $10,000 and $20,000 because all they can afford is a $200-$300 a month payment. The more used electric cars on the market the better things will get.

[@rootieboy]

@@alanmay7929 batteries are actually pretty simple to replace. Plug and play if they are stock and you replace the entire pack, sell off the old cells and let someone else pick through the usable cells. They are finding that even after ten years battery packs are keeping an 80% charge.

[@rootieboy]

@@alanmay7929 And yet here is someone who has made a business out of cannibalizing parts and installing them into classic cars. Others are doing the same. The fact that you can hotrod with EV parts shows that the user can use these parts. Sure, you won't be using autopilot, but the point is to get to a base level of understanding the battery/electric technology. You can refuse it or accept it. Gas cars are going the way of the dodo very soon.

[@rootieboy]

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[@rootieboy]

@@alanmay7929 to show you what you said could not be done can in fact be done

[@cso027]

It'd be crazy silly if you put an electric engine in my 1971 Beetle. My long wish is having my Beetle converted to electric. It is the perfect thing to do, most iconic car without the massive emmision.

[@daves4026]

A net position on weight against range would be great to see and then highlight where technological advancements are improving the stats

[@SuperDajon]

please do a lotus esprit series 1, 2 or 3.

[@S11m_V]

Good video about motors, but how much weight we need allow to drive more than 400 km by one charg?.

[@oldbuddyhouse]

Crouching behind the giant member (motor) and quite handsy gave me 90-95% of my laughs today. Don’t stop making these wonderful videos! Just giggle a little with me.

[@homood_h]

So I have a 2002 land cruiser and I am sure that my Land Cruiser is the only Land Cruiser like this in the Uk because I brought it all the way from Qatar and I am now using it every day in the UK so do you work on this car and my car is not like the UK amazon it’s pretty simple and this car is very famous in the Middle East 😅

[@ElectricClassicCars]

We only convert old classic cars. The exception is Land Rover Defenders. A 2002 Toyota is a little too modern for us. Sorry. 👍

[@homood_h]

@@ElectricClassicCars it’s okay and thank you again for the great content maybe in the future I will do it myself 😅

[@mikejf4377]

You need to show a complete display of all the items you need to make a electric car work at some time. Keep up the great work.

[@marcbee1234]

I agree that would be very helpful.

[@gino2465]

I have question, cars that are produced are type approved before production so safety standards for that vehicle are tested and approved. When you take on a vehicle to convert you are altering that vehicle from its standard approval. How does this affect insurance and say type approve if you are altering its original design. As many vehicle designs are put together scientifically so that every component is part of its strength and possibly used to avoid say engines ending up on your lap. I often wonder about production car alterations.

[@airchie2]

I'd also love to see something outlandish like a Unimog with a camping module on the back with huge battery that can also run the cooker etc in the camper. Something you can go off-grid in for weeks at a time. :) Or just take it green-laning and be able to make yourself a cuppa when you stop.

[@airchie2]

@@alanmay7929 Certainly wouldn't be cheap, but bloody cool. :D

[@ElectricClassicCars]

We're building an electric VW Synchro 4x4 at the moment. It'll be built as an overlander, designed to be lived in for weeks at a time. Can't wait to test drive it in the summer. A Unimog would be a beast, very cool idea. 😁👍

[@daviddenley3512]

I think there would have to too many batteries in the Unimog to make it affective which is why I suggested the Pinzgauer. It almost mirrors the 90 and 110 Landrovers in size.

[@sonic10able]

Great show, I would really like to know how you adapt the drive shafts to the Tesla drive unit and the cars hubs, do you cut the Tesla shaft and the car shaft, weld together and balance?

[@brianmacadam4793]

I'm attempting to put a Subaru AWD ( I'm in the snow belt ) with a Nissan Leaf motor/inverter/charger into a 1965 Ford Econoline Van. Surprisingly the van less the original mechanical bits will weigh LESS than the planned EV ( as a first analysis ) .

[@ElectricClassicCars]

That's often the case. 👍

[@WardenClyff]

The title of the video is correct but Richard was getting the Term Motor and Engine mixed up when referring to the big old honking engine

[@Andrew-J316]

My Favorite episode so far! Thank you!

[@brunovanaken5893]

A Caterham with the Plaid rear dual motos set up and just one single battery unit…to save weight :)

[@paulpobsanderson6219]

Brilliantly put, great video.

[@jimcabezola3051]

Looking forward to the tech videos!

[@JohnRushworth]

Most enjoyable Richard. How about a tech talk on a motorcycle conversion?

[@bleizbreizh6264]

Excellent start! Can't wait for the batteries episode. My Defender 130 camper pretty close to maximum weight with its infernal combustion engine and have assumed a penalty for batteries...

[@TKomoski]

I watched the Vintage Voltage S02E01 and it was nice to see guys back again. Look forward to watching *Cheers*

[@giulianomarco]

I binge-watched all ten episodes of S01 (which is free on Discovery/Quest) on my tablet! 👍

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Thanks, it's nice to be back. ❤️😁👍

[@Noukz37]

This is slowly shaping up to be my favourite car channel on YT !!

[@marcbee1234]

This is without a doubt the best electric car conversion channel I've found.

[@daviddenley3512]

I'm into Military vehicles and my favourite 3 are Landrover 90, Unimogs and Pinzgaurs. The 4x4 Pinzgauer is the same size as the 90 despite it being able to carry 8 people in the rear. This uses an air cooled engine in the centre of the cab and it has occurred to me that this vehicle might be an ideal candidate for an Electric Conversion. No Moggy, I can't afford one hell, I can't even get into one anymore but it could be a darn good vehicle to convert!

[@ElectricClassicCars]

We've built loads of Tesla powered Defenders. They're great. But a Pinzgauer is something I've always had in the back of my mind that I'd love to convert and turn into an off road camper. 😁👍

[@daviddenley3512]

Do it...just Do it Moggy...it would be brilliant! 4x4 are good fun with superior Turing circle but the 6x6 would give you enough room I think. The 6x6 is the same size as the LWB Defender yet despite it's size it is very square inside giving it loads of room that I think you'd need.

[@garycat]

Great video, I've always thought a Citroen SM would be an ideal conversion car as the engines are so unreliable but the body looks like it is from an electric future.

[@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665]

Ive seen some DS conversions ... But yes the big Citroens deserve E power.. As might something like a late Marcos Mantula or Matra simca Bageera

[@mikehotwheelz]

Or the CX. I’d be interested to see how you’d integrate the electric power with the hydro-pneumatic suspension.

[@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665]

@@mikehotwheelz You have to go for seperate E pump units or in the case of an SM a seperate motor replacing the jack shaft that drives all the auxiliaries at the front of the engine bay anyway.

[@mikehotwheelz]

@@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 I remember seeing a Dutch (I think) DS conversion where the compressor kept kicking in and made a hell of a racket. Kind of spoiled the whole effect of a smooth, silent EV

[@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665]

@@mikehotwheelz That depends on the compressor ..if its OEM then thats an issue... Interestingly RR used the Citroen spheres system on some of their models from the same period. I cannot see RR using a rattly compressor 😂

[@alandowney4458]

Very informative. Love this series. Keep those videos coming. I would love to convert my 710M Pinzgauer. I commented before about such a conversion. Thanks again and sorry about rambling on. Cheers from the states.

[@cristianfederico2411]

Hey Mate, Love the channel! Your content is awesome, you deserve a lot more subs!!!!

[@MyCarFilm]

I have a p1800 Volvo that looks like it should have 300hp.....happy for you to have a go.

[@turbokeene]

Fantastic video Richard! Very informative. The size and hp comparison really sums it all up. The future really is electric. Cheers, Matt Keene.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Thanks Matt, good to hear from you mate. 😁👍

[@JordanTait95]

Absolutely loved this so informative and can’t wait for more!! I would love to see your beetle up on a ramp to see the full package but yeah love it!!

[@shakejones]

great video+explanation+presentation! well done mate! thanks for sharing 🙏🏻

[@ayebrow]

Brilliantly done Richard, thanks. I only just followed through to your channel from “Fully Charged”, and haven’t caught up with everything yet, but as an engineer who has stripped and rebuilt engines, and worked for many years in automotive manufacturing, I would be really interested to see a bit more detail about how you go about coupling modern EV tech into old drive trains without blowing the latter up - you mentioned a wee bit in the FC Tesla-powered Defender video, which was just a tease 😀 Keep up the fantastic work!

[@jeffreyrwilliams9345]

your logic is flawless. Well done!! My favorite car is 68 Ferrari Modulo, perfect as an electric

[@kennethdong8490]

I have a 1934 Austin Ruby which is a very tiny car. Love to see what I can stuff into it.

[@ginggur17]

Brilliant, it sure puts a lot in perspective. 👍🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@znoop72]

I got an elctric car myself. And the efficiency is awesome! But the prolbem lies in the energy pr kg. In even the most modern battery packs. Whats the future like do you think?

[@donkelleher8560]

YOUR VIDEOS ARE SIMPLY FANTASTIC. THE FUTURE IS HERE ! THANK YOU.

[@davidpepe3436]

Great idea for a series! Enjoyed the video and the TV show in the USA. Love to see a late 70's early or 80's Mercedes SL convertible. A lot of space upfront for the batteries and a Tesla motor in the back.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Yep, we've done a few Mercedes SLs, check out the photos on our other social media feeds. 👍

[@meloun2000]

@Electric Classic Cars: How about a Caterham Seven?

[@fernandopino8191]

Hi Richard, would love to hear more about transmission and gear reduction units. When to keep the original gears or swap over to other units and how to match with motors? Pros and cons etc. Loving the Tech talk/videos. Cheers from the other side of the world... Australia.

[@domtdoodar99]

I’d love to see some content in the electricity consumption of various cars you convert, maybe that could be included in the test drive videos

[@USUG0]

I would be really interested in knowing how you manage to keep fast DC charging in your conversions, as it seems most conversions out there settle for just AC charging for some reason.

[@dikkylahari]

I would like to know more detail and precise on changing the engine to electric motor and what are the other components are must necessary to full conversion.

[@greginnocent438]

Fantastic content, loved it!

[@ohger1]

Waiting for the day when drop in pre-engineered plug and play conversion packages will be available. I have a 66 Mustang I'd love to convert.

[@Vintage_Volts]

Thanx Richard, always great to see you go over the tech stuff, really fun! I just finished building my 1955 beetle, its amazing so nice to drive with the Hypernine unit, thanks for your support and input as always. TZ

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Hi Tom. Great to hear the Beetle is now live. Hyper 9 motors are ideal for the Beetle. 😁👍

[@MichaelBaker-s2m]

Great video Richard . A plus you forgot to mention for the electric motor Regenerative Braking! Cheers

[@AndyScarbados]

Brilliant video Moggy! very enlightening. tells me stuff i did not know about engine vs motor! i currently drive CRV Hybrid AWD, i love the Honda CRVs, but they don't make an electric one yet, and this was the most efficient one i could get. i still have range anxiety if i'm honest, which is why i haven't switched yet. my next car maybe full electric though thanks to good folks like you and Pedro giving us the facts. Thanks again, please keep doing these videos, they are great. right, i'm going to watch your petrol vs battery one now...

[@Y888MTB]

Lotus 7 kit car - with an electric RDU and batteries up front

[@philtucker1224]

Beautifully explained and very impressed with the massive difference in efficiency between the two types. I also feel it would be good to compare typical weights of an old ICE and an EM with it’s essential battery pack…- great series thank you!

[@airchie2]

Volvo 850 estate sleeper please!! :)

[@cristianfederico2411]

Of course, we want technical content!

[@pritambissonauth2181]

Me too

[@moulehole7283]

Great video ⚡️👍🏼

[@craiggoodsell2261]

Great video and info. How about a 1931 Ford Tudor sedan?

[@maurimasondo]

Great balanced video, technical enough but not boring. Looking forward for more like this! 👍

[@sorenweisshartmann]

Really cool video. Would it be possible to make a video on the battery pack ? :)

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Good idea, we'll cover batteries in the next video but the battery containment system in a future video. 👍

[@dereksmith9876]

Excellent technical talk. Keep it coming.

[@ChefRojo]

PUH-LEEEEAAASE put a beastly motor in a Lada. We need this. Great video. Really looking forward to more content like this.

[@davidburke1794]

I have a TR4 that I'm planning on converting. My concern is price. Where can I source the motors?

[@simonburleigh5551]

For a big motor in a small car madness what about putting the big Tesla motor in a Honda Beat if you can find space for the batteries. or try a Hillman Imp

[@USUG0]

one conversion I would like to make having both budget and equipment is a BMW GS (2006 onward) with an i3 (33-42kWh) drivetrain. With battery split in two. About 10-15kWh permanent in front for daily rides The rest in two removable cases on the back sides to attach for longer journeys

[@rossgebert9422]

This is the type of presentation I enjoy; thank-you.

[@kylereese4822]

Metro 6R4 or RS200 mounted sideways to keep them 4x4 (motor behind passenger Inverter behind driver) batteries above... or just go nuts and duel motor them both...

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Dual motor 6r4 😧 now there's a thought. 😁👌

[@bernardcharlesworth9860]

Love the video but would of liked more info on frequency amplitude of motor input and how neutral and park works.thanks

[@kevinsollis1436]

Great video, really like to see the technical content of how the conversion works. Also I have a 1500 Triumph Spitfire and would love to hear how you would go about converting one of these, if you have not already done so. Keep the content coming!

[@mrbigears7077]

a Citroen DS would be cool, but how do you power the suspension?

[@allterrainrandy2587]

A DS P100D would be amazing!

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Simple, we used an electric pump of a more modern Citroen. 👍

[@itchywitchy]

Very interesting video, I learnt a lot about the different types of motors. I have seen quite a few conversions using Nissan Leaf motors and batteries have you ever used Nissan kit in any of your conversions?

[@urbanstrencan]

Great video can't wait for new ones, you should build EV Yugo or Lada Niva 🙏😉😉

[@Clm1403]

Great video! Keep the tech content coming!

[@mikejf4377]

Has anyone asked about electric conversions for a Old Mack Truck with a refer on the back. Not sure if there over there. I was curious what electric motor you would use.VW Golf or Jetta MK3 or MK5.

[@franks-kitchen]

Great talk and thanks for the detail. Could you do one about how you overcome stuff like speedo, fuel/battery gadgets and all of those unused wiring harness’s. Thank you.

[@mavenmavenpest1750]

Thanks - can you do a program on range? Not worried about speed but want to know how far you can go.

[@ElectricClassicCars]

Longest range vehicle we've built so far had 300 mile range with the lowest being a 50 mile range city car. But average range is around 150 miles. 😁👍

[@nikkymurat29]

Great content!!!! As a barely sub 50 year old, I grew up daydreaming of one day driving and owning a multitude of 80s classics, I say classics because i seem to remember considering them classics from the day of their release. I soon came to realise however, that reliability, real world use, running costs and not to mention insurance made these dreams somewhat unobtainable, that was until a few years ago when I discovered your work, and all of a sudden i found myself once again daydreaming of those beloved 80s classics, only this time around they were somehow better, improved, matured versions of themselves. So to be handed the opportunity to Electrify the car of my dreams, one might even say the car of my Daydreams, seemed like a good idea, that was until the bitter sweet realisation that my daydream would be recreated for some undeserving individual who probably does not know what it is to have wasted the best part of 40 years daydreaming about a truly reliable 80s classic! I am however wearing my big boy pants today so in the name of fair play i will provide enlightenment and make clear to all that the one true path lies behind the wheel of the 1988 Lancia Delta Integrale, closely followed by the 1984- Audi Quattro Turbo. That said I appreciate just how rare these cars are to find these days so might I also suggest a few alternative dreamboats such as the Peugeot 205Gti or the Golf Gti MK1 reams of Fords oh hang on a minute, i got it, old skool SAAB 900. OK i will stop it now, the simple truth is that I might be a little indecisive, but I think this era might have something to offer. GOOD LUCK love the work!

[@Ian.Does.Fitness]

Wow! Imagine the Audi Quattro Turbo converted to electric! 💨

[@Ratty_Rex]

Love the BMW..... I've got a 1986 535 that I'm thinking about getting converted. That small Tesla unit looks to kick out similar power..... Oh, and a 1996 316 too..... and a hairdryer motor will be similar power to that!!! Can't believe it's taken me this long to find your youtube channel as I watch the TV show and have had an interest in conversions since the early 90s!!!

[@rp007k9]

I'd be intrested what does into from concept to end result for a diesel van converted to electric by you guys including costs please?

[@Skippy-Jason-Rock]

Awesome series! I'd be interested in seeming some of the programming and setup that goes into getting the motor to do what you want when you the accelerator.

[@johnhall8707]

Great video and information 😊. Car to convert Pilgrim Sumo ( AC Cobra replica).

[@Lilithe]

16:00 I have always wanted to defile a 1970 Chevelle SS with electric power. They're giant boats but I think with the right configuration you could make something really cool.

[@battybri]

Really great content, beautifully explained.

[@robblincoln2152]

Awesome. Can you comment sometime on a compact pickup conversion? Perhaps a fiat Doblo flatbed how would you approach that beast

[@jordanjohnson7848]

I’m so want to see the 944

[@niceracleous9999]

Great vid. Look forward to the next 👍

[@TheSlabReport]

Wonderful. More 944 content. Will kits be available for the 944?

[@ElectricClassicCars]

The 944 isn't an easy conversion so I can't see us doing a kit in the short term. 👍

[@pritambissonauth2181]

35% you are being too generous, may be 30%, also efficiency is not constant all over the power band, speaking of the engine of course. Keep the technical information flowing.

[@daves4026]

Would love to understand how you go about updating suspension to cope with the additional weight and distribution of the EVs

[@marcbee1234]

Yes info much needed on that.

[@The4valanche]

Engines are heavy, should come out to the same or slightly higher weight. Not more than carrying an additional passenger. No need to adjust suspension at that point.

[@justinschultz4325]

New subscriber!! Love the channel. I'd love to see a converted hot hatch like a VW GTI or Civic.

[@Wil_Wheat_Thin]

Awesome breakdown of the wild improvement in technology.

[@tonymansson7203]

Are there any SMALL batteries around? Getting 400V from used let's say Tesla model S batteries in a 60's British sports car is just not doable. They can't handle that kind of weight. So how do you solve that?

[@ElectricClassicCars]

We've just built a 400v Tesla powered classic Mini that weighs the same as a classic 90s Mini. The full build is on an upcoming episode of Vintage Voltage on Quest TV. 👍

[@tonymansson7203]

@@ElectricClassicCars Can't see that show in Sweden, but perhaps you can cover the build details on KZbin too at some point. I'd love that.

[@jamespark3944]

Great video, someone already said a mini would be a great conversion or would it? How about some costs to give us mugs an idea?

[@davidsherley2652]

Interesting & engaging video, even for a petrol head like me. I’d like to see the high torque motor in an air cooled 911, such as a 964 (my car).