Engines of Metro North Kawasaki M8

Engines of Metro-North Kawasaki M8
This is all about the Kawasaki M8, the replacement to the Budd m2 as well as the m4 and m6. I think that the m8 is a fitting replacement to the budd m2, and it is just as revolutionary as the m2 was back then. It is comfortable, safe, reliable and good looking. Maybe not that last one but I do truly believe that the M8 is perfect for metro north and con dot. It should also operate on shoreline east, as a replacement for their p40's and other equipment. That was the coaches and locomotives could be used for CT rail. Special thanks to
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[@VibrancySirJuke]

Oh, the horns on the M8s. They came equipped with Leslie RS2Ms

[@JerzeyBoy]

Market-Frankford Kawasaki: Who are you? MTA Kawasaki: You. But better.

[@williamkeffer8234]

As a philadelphian, fax

[@AmtrakEnthusiast]

Question for Q&A: How did you get into trains?

[@rydawg6504]

I’ve been waiting so long fir this vid. Great one i love it

[@nyrailfan202]

Glad I could l meet your expectations

[@birdmantherailfan]

5:17 I just noticed Norman the Metro-North. But the car showing on the front of the train is his brother Larry the metro north (M2 Unit 8744) paired with Norman the Metro North who is facing the other way (M2 Unit 8745). It’s good to see Norman and Larry in this video!

[@mirzaahmed6589]

Where did those names come from?

[@birdmantherailfan]

@@mirzaahmed6589 I was just 5 years old with a large imagination that time. New Canaan resident, lived by the station, came upon me to name the units haha.

[@SomeRamdomAhole]

Excellent video ! M8s are great successors to the M2s and the fleet before them

[@nyrailfan202]

Agreed

[@LSM_Lover]

Love this video!!!

[@nyrailfan202]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@ashleyjiscool]

m5

[@GLee-oe3op]

For the Q&A If you could lease equipment from any other commuter rail life for the metro north or LIRR what would it be?

[@AmtrakEnthusiast]

Glad I provided some footage! You made good use of it. In the future feel free to use any of my videos in this series.

[@nyrailfan202]

Thanks, I had enough of my own footage however then every single photo of an m8 would have been on the same day at the same place and I think it would seem kinda repetitive

[@AmtrakEnthusiast]

nyrailfan 202 yeah i get that

[@anasiacameronelijahedcpndc4324]

5:44 I saw that in the news when I was a little kid

[@governorrat8640]

same

[@MarkBustos2]

I love the Kawasaki M8. Especially that the M8 was designed by my fellow half compatriot 🇲🇽Cesar Vergara. No relation to 🇨🇴Sofia Vergara & her family or 🇲🇽Jorge Vergara & his family. Also design the GE Genesis & NJT Alstom PL 42.

[@jaewavey3762]

Cool

[@joezegers]

For context: The local trains make all stops up to Stamford, while the express trains run express up to Stamford before making all stops to New Haven.

[@ilovebusesandtrains7777]

I've been on the Kawasaki M8 before

[@jfp3earth357]

CT rail should use the M8 for Shore Line East Service from New York City at both Penn Station and Grand Central all the way to Kingston Rhode Island to meet up with the MBTA at Kingston to take people to Boston Massachusetts

[@mirzaahmed6589]

MBTA doesn't run to Kingston. It's not CT's job to provide commuter rail service in RI.

[@afleetcommand]

Informative as usual. Where are these manufactured? Yonkers or Lincoln Nebraska? A story all by itself..:)

[@nyrailfan202]

I think they were manufactured in Lincoln and Yonkers, I know that Kawasaki has a facility in Yonkers at least

[@SomeRamdomAhole]

Kobe , Japan and Lincoln, Nebraska

[@governorrat8640]

WE NEED THE M9's.

[@tuberoyful]

Train Sim World 2020 has them!

[@Noahstrains29]

You should put the P 32 iall the New Haven

[@Noahstrains29]

Yes

[@mirzaahmed6589]

What?

[@Lucius_Chiaraviglio]

Eventually I'd like to see all 4 of the choices in the poll done. Then do a series on Engines of the Long Island Railroad, and then Engines of New Jersey Transit.

[@nyrailfan202]

Eventually I will probably get around to all of them, the poll is more what I will do first, and I don’t know if I will do the two railroads.

[@Mnrr6131]

If you could own any line on metro north and any line on the LIRR. What lines would they be?(Q&A)

[@robertrogucki3537]

do the BL20GH next

[@SSBB_5m4sh]

This m8 train looks like the old Narita express from Japan too

[@galaxyrailfanning7860]

Awesome video! When are the extra 60 M8s planned to be finished?

[@nyrailfan202]

After the LIRR m9’s but with the virus who knows

[@galaxyrailfanning7860]

nyrailfan 202- Ok so do you know how long it will be before those M9s get finished then? How big is the order and will they be shipped by rail?

[@nyrailfan202]

2022 ish, they won’t really get shipped as they are built right off the Hudson line in Yonkers. Metro north will just send a diesel down and pull them to croton for testing.

[@galaxyrailfanning7860]

nyrailfan 202- Oh ok. I though they built some in Lincoln, NE including the M8s. If these ones are being built right there in NY then couldn’t they just do the M8s in NE?

[@WillF40PH_train_railroad]

For the Q&A: 1. What is your favorite train that the Long Island Rail Road used? 2: What is your favorite railfanning location?

[@EmperorMaglev]

You should do Engines of Long Island Railroad

[@nyrailfan202]

Someone else can take it

[@sanq3898]

How many times did you say However in this Vid , but seriously Thanks for the imfo

[@nyrailfan202]

Not enough times

[@sanq3898]

@@nyrailfan202 haha good vids I watched about 20 last night of the NY transit system then, I found yours Thanks again :)

[@Qboro66]

@@nyrailfan202 however it was an good and informative video. Thank you.

[@Goofy1trainofficial]

Q&A Questions (For The Next One) 1. Whats You're Favorite Model? 2. Did You Ride The SPV2000? Cause I Think Your Voice Is Old Edit: Imagine If The M8 Was Also Diesel Or Gas Turbine Or Both DEMU/GEMU/GDEMU

[@woodalexander]

The M-8 can't run into Penn until the PRR third rail is extended as their transformers can't handle the 25hz power. The M-8 is a nice car but I wish MN had kept the older cars in better shape and spread out the transition over a much longer period of time. They basically trashed the M-2s so we had to rush to buy all new M-8s as opposed to supplementing the existing fleet and retiring the oldest or worst condition cars slowly. Lastly, the M-8 is good at what it does, but it is a very bespoke solution to the New Haven Line but MN and CDOT seem hell bent on jamming a square peg into a round hole and running them to Old Saybrook and Penn as opposed to getting the appropriate equipment capable of low level platforms for SLE and 25hz power for Penn and eventually through running with NJT.

[@YaoboyProd2K15]

If you want to go on a trip report on the Metro North M8 EMU, do check out Simply Railway's latest video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmmqdaaMeNuHeZo

[@EpicThe112]

For M8 to enter NY Penn it's 750 volts DC top contact LIRR due to the overhead wires being 12.5 kv 25hz to which the M8 lacks a 25hz transformer for overhead wires

[@nyrailfan202]

Then how do they get over the hell gate line, isn’t that also 25hz

[@EpicThe112]

@@nyrailfan202 hell gate line is 60 hz on the queens end the Bowery Bay substation separates 12.5kv-25kv 60 hertz Queens,NY to Boston, MA from 25 Hertz Queens NY to Washington DC Union Station via Trenton Philadelphia 30th Street

[@nyrailfan202]

Thanks

[@russellrobinson6404]

Would the M8s third rail shoe interfere with LIRR's third rail?

[@nyrailfan202]

No, as the m8’s third rail shoes could operate on over and under running third rail

[@geraldgreen5371]

Will the M8 make it to being a bi -level coach, perhaps a M8b coach....

[@nyrailfan202]

If metro north was to ever purchase bilevel equipment they would purchase locomotive hauled coaches first. Then the new haven line fleet would probably be next if it was practical. However modifying the M8’s design to be bilevel would be so much work that it would be a whole new thing. Also bombardier is building bilevel emu’s for NJT now metro north probably wouldn’t buy from them after what happened with the m7’s but you never know. Even if they don’t buy them they will definitely look at how they operate on NJT. It would be possible to build a bilevel with m8 electrical equipment but it would for sure require a whole new car design so it probably would be called the m10 or something though that name doesn’t seam right.

[@mikea3169]

The M8s have a lot more reliability issues than you think.

[@mirzaahmed6589]

Top speed on Shore Line East is 90 mph.

[@jimbobcramden]

which state own the metro north railroad first?

[@nyrailfan202]

New York only, Connecticut does not own it, they just provide funding for services in Connecticut.

[@kevinwong6588]

@@nyrailfan202 ConnDOT owns the bulk of the M8 fleet and covers 65% of the costs (the remaining 35% is NY State).

[@elijrivera522]

Error: you were saying the M7A’s was came in 2004, the M7 came in 2002

[@AaronJrBrundidge]

the M7s on the LIRR was Fall 2002 the M7As on the Metro-North was Spring 2004

[@nysubwaydude5634]

What was the M8 concept before they were built.

[@nyrailfan202]

What do you mean more specifically

[@nysubwaydude5634]

@@nyrailfan202 I mean the artist concept rendered of the M8 like what we're the M8 going to look like

[@nyrailfan202]

It was something similar to what was built as the m8 was designed entirely by Kawasaki

[@nysubwaydude5634]

@@nyrailfan202 oh okay

[@jimbobcramden]

the city where the accident happened is where i live

[@LMB222]

1080 HP = 800kW - which is a lot for a single car.

[@planeflight1202]

now m9

[@nyrailfan202]

probably not, at least for a few years

[@planeflight1202]

@@nyrailfan202 oh ok

[@1575murray]

The M8 cars if ever operated into NYP would have to use the LIRR third rail as they are not compatible with 11kv 25hz catenary power systems.

[@nyrailfan202]

Yes that would be the plan if that part of east side Access happens

[@1575murray]

@@nyrailfan202 I don't think that Amtrak has any plans to change the existing power system to 60hz.

[@nyrailfan202]

No, unless the whole electric system burns to the ground, probably not

[@tuberoyful]

All of these are in TS2020 I have them I spent $500+ 🤣

[@LennoxAlexanderFrancisJr]

Will Amtrak ever make the Acela by Kawasaki to hit 200MPHs than the original Acela?

[@nyrailfan202]

Maybe they will it all depends on how much funding they get each year. By the way Kawasaki is not building the replacement for the Acela its avalia I think.

[@physetermacrocephalus9986]

Amtrak placed orders for new Avelia Liberty train sets to run on the Acela and replacing the 20 year old Acelas we have now. Those trains will be made by Alstom, not Kawasaki

[@alpzepta]

@@physetermacrocephalus9986 maybe the third Acela Express will be Shinkansen N700S from Hitachi

[@NoArrowz]

I’m older than the m8 lol

[@System6VideoProductions]

I’m older than the M7

[@nyrailfan202]

I’m older than the M9

[@fishfighter2]

However........

[@nyrailfan202]

Yew

[@fishfighter2]

@@nyrailfan202 I love your content!

[@jaewavey3762]

I got on a Avella Liberty

[@robwillie226]

Bombardier is pronounced Bombardi-A

[@nyrailfan202]

Good to know

[@hibud117]

Noo

[@hibud117]

Bombardier

[@Noahstrains29]

@@hibud117 Jhhgghhh

[@lylespriggs1838]

I think the trains are quite ugly Utilitarian in design boxy Old stock had better looking exterior design

[@nyrailfan202]

Definitely, I liked the m2’s better the m8’s are kinda ugly

[@lylespriggs1838]

@@nyrailfan202 M2 definitely better exterior design clean and more sleek.

[@ashleyjiscool]

m9

[@mattsmainline3020]

M8s are the worst

[@nyrailfan202]

Why, just because they replaced the m2’s

[@Noahstrains29]

Yeah The m8 are the best bro