Engines of SEPTA: Pioneer III (Silverliner I)

[@kabob129]

0:00 box of cereal hits ground

[@PositionLight]

BTW I wrote most of that Wikipedia page you were reading there ;-) I actually really appreciate it with the audio-visual backing and such.

[@PositionLight]

Metroliners did not use Budd Pioneer III trucks due to the size of the traction motors. They had to use outboard bearing equalized trucks similar to a GSI 70.

[@gophils234]

Thank you for the video and information. For 54 years I have lived in Lawndale. Back in the mid to late seventies we had an eye doctor that worked out of Center City needless to say and my parents and I Road many of these trains to Reading Terminal. It was the only Doctor Who actually look forward to going to see because I actually got to ride on a train. Ironically enough as I got older I decided I wanted to become a welder and I got trained right down the street from the Budd Hunting Park plant Randolph Skill Center at Henry and Roberts Avenue. The Budd Company became much more than just a local manufacturer but went on to revolutionize the railroad industry!

[@warrensmall670]

Thank goodness Mattel re-made their thomas wood range

[@edwardschaeffer3981]

Nice video but I couldn't hear the commentary because the background music was too loud.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

The background traffic noise in the commentary probably made that worse too. I'll try to balance it out better in the future. thanks!

[@jmream2618]

Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions I noticed u used the Donald & Douglas theme from Thomas The Tank engine & Friend

[@wharris302]

The music was very quiet what are you on about? overreaction

[@withamarshview1436]

@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren I've seen a few of your other videos, including about the good one about the Maryland accident, so I'm familiar with your production quality and that you do these videos because you love trains. What I have to say isn't complaing, rather it is advice on what is necessary to your audience. Redo this video. Because it is the first a series, some may be so turned off that they might not see your later work where your skills have improved slightly. Before uploading, always check the sound levels. Overbearing music makes a video unwatchable. Also, a small investment in a quality microphone designed for voice recording will also ensure that what you say is heard by those of us who are interested in what you want to say.

[@ee-yc3dy]

@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren how come you played the Donald and Douglas theme if this is not in Scotland

[@MRCLXWN03]

RIP to the pioneer 3 train cars You will be missed for your service

[@K8thebest_Gaming]

3:18 am I buggin or is that Donald and Douglas's theme

[@josephheston9238]

The traction motors (WH-1454A) were pulled from the cars and were used as spares for the Almond Joys.

[@nyshortline]

Two things: First, you mentioned the Almond Joy cars having the same motors and right angle drive as the Pioneer III's. Correct, except the Almond Joys were built 2 years AFTER the Pioneer III's, not before. Also not many people know this but the Brazillian RDC's with the Silverliner bodies were already under construction to replace the Bullets and Straffords on the P&W Norristown High-Speed Line as third rail electric MU's when the order was was cancelled and the 19 bodies became RDC's for Brazil instead. It was a blessing in disguise as it effectively doubled the lives of the Bullets and Straffords.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

So they attempted before to replace the smooth bullets and they failed. Never knew that. I'd rather have those instead than the piece of junk N5s we have now. Sure they got good horns and accelerate fast but they are a mechanical mess and don't forget one lost its brakes and caused the speeds to drop. Hence why it's the "Slow speed line now"

[@MetroGaming75]

At the beginning in the intro it's like a gun shot sound

[@Frances_Network_Production]

Tru

[@thomasdempsey2433]

Thanks for the video.

[@Vxllain]

At 3:00 there is a Pennsylvania Railroad Metroliner in the background!

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Yep that was the Metroliner preserved at Strasburg where that photo was taken. Those Silverliners are sadly no longer there. Metroliner still is though

[@Wes8761]

Gotta say, Your doing amazing. I want to railfan norristown with u sometime. Yesterday I went to see njt abb-alp-44 fleet at lackawanna cutoff. I live in hamilton which is right next to trenton

[@colbyjames7205]

It kinda sucks how non of these now survive I think someone needs to request a recreation of a replica silverliner pioneer iii class again

[@malachimuhammad-dy2ow]

After a fire damaged the R7 Chestnut Hill East station at Nicetown, the station was closed in November 1988.

[@mandyplodek639]

All aboard Pennsylvania All aboard SEPTA

[@wdd6864]

Are you going to do the Market Frankford Line?

[@nyctolupus450]

YO! you forgot about the blueliners! the MP54's!

[@3bydacreekside]

Is that sim copter theme music?

[@RedArrow73]

Thunderbolt 1000's sound BAD ASS! Usta be a big thing here in North Texas.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

I can agree. We use to have 165 Thunderbolts here in Limerick (Mostly 1000s where I live but there were a handful of 1000Ts but I've only heard the 1000s) I partly lost my hearing temporarily when I went up close to one during their tests. Now all we have are T-128s. Peach bottom in Southern PA had 1000s and a 2001-130 (the 2001 was an add on for better sound coverage) too but they are also gone except for the 2001.

[@HighIronProductions]

At 1:22, that's not actually a Silverliner, that's a Budd RDC-1 from Brazil.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

I am aware of that but unfortunately finding Pioneer III photos was pretty difficult especially the demo coach itself so I was very limited

[@RRansomSmith]

So you use one that has nothing to do with topic.... Mmmkay

[@traindev1]

@@RRansomSmith did you not read what he said

[@John-cj7et]

Excellent presentation unfortunately the background music is too loud and makes the narration difficult to hear. Great collection of pictures, the subject matter is fascinating. Appreciate your work on this.

[@andrewcoates3050]

ok so i really liked the windows song that you used but i cant seem to find it so i was wondering which remix was it because the song was really cool

[@steveg5122]

Strasburg got just the empty shells, there was nothing of historic value left inside them...A Silverliner II would be more valuable than a Pioneer III at that point.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

I was aware of that and I'm sure I said it was probably because of that but it was probably muffled by the way too loud music. Makes sense even if they were the last remaining Pioneer IIIs in existence but there is an RDC-1 in Brazil seen occasionally in this video which carries on the Pioneer III story abroad.

[@steveg5122]

Unlike the Arrow I's they never got that second lease on life out in California.

[@jackhewitt7902]

So the pioneer 3 was the father of the modern electric rial way in the us ?

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Sort of. It's what inspired the current Silverliner family today

[@edwardcole4623]

wait but wouldn't the more seats make it heavier?

[@joeythecat7482]

Thomas wood reference

[@ClubFanByNobleUra]

Isn’t it supposed to be a sliver liner 2 not three because they were built by the St. Louis company

[@MrNJT]

Was the photo taken at 6:35 taken at South Amboy NJ?

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

No that looks like Overbrook PA to me

[@MrNJT]

Oh ok. great video!

[@malachimuhammad-dy2ow]

4:49 Pioneer III 246 running express on the R5 Parkesburg Line.

[@the_earlybirf1170]

Who else watching this in 2021 for nostalgia?

[@RRansomSmith]

They're not engines, they're electric multiple unit cars. Engines make their own power and carry the fuel with them. EMUs get power from outside sources.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Well I can't call it EMUs of SEPTA or motors of SEPTA as I'm covering more than that. Including the toasters and the maintenance diesels too eventually.

[@Wes8761]

True but hes just showing the units septa has used. Dont be so critical. Im a huge electrical nerd and yes the technical term is motor since it uses electricity but geez dont go after Thunderbolt. He modeled this off another youtubers series with a similar name. Its perfectly fine. Everyone seems to like this

[@malachimuhammad76]

10:50 Pioneer 3/Silverliner 1 car 248 running a limited service to Doylestown.

[@stevennicholas9337]

can you make like the san bernardino train wreck story?

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

I will most likely do that eventually.

[@malachimuhammad76]

5:58 Same Car running express to Center City pulling out of University City Station.

[@stevennicholas9337]

omg dude you have 666 subs :o

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

I noticed that

[@malachimuhammad76]

4:51 Pioneer 3 car 246 running express to Parkesburg.

[@novus201]

Music?

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

They're all listed in the credits

[@novus201]

thanks also awesome intro

[@RedArrow73]

Music drowning out comments; should shut off after opening tiles.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Yeah I noticed shortly after uploading. The other episodes luckily don't have the issue

[@joshbrony2204]

Am I the only one who heard Donald and Douglas's theme?

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

No

[@3bydacreekside]

I just commented outside of this thread...but is the one music set on this video from sim copter?

[@liammcgrath3114]

The PRR Museum locos were scrapped due to PCB oil.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

They were also empty shells i think too.

[@jrs1rules]

I think the videos should be remade.

[@TruenoD12]

I mean Amtrak guy

[@TPB-OPA]

I am doing engines of Marc on May 3rd btw

[@simonbooth6116]

0:22 silverliner 5

[@TruenoD12]

I know Amtrak gay and thunderbolt you're the best one you really make it the top 10 best KZbinrs off of comodo gaming and at least Jesse Gillette thunderbolt you are in the third after Jessie Gillette was in the first with Komodo

[@dislikemyvids9222]

0:00 Mic fells off bc jvgjtuj2 gets scammed

[@Cheeseatingjunglista]

These are NOT engines, they are Multiple units, with more than one power car - the first multiple units of this kind were in use in Europe in the 1910s, Since I found your channel I finally realised that the USA is very primitive in railway terms

[@garydent4588]

OMG that music is obnoxious and totally drowned out your voice. Love your videos but the music has to go.

[@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren]

Trust me remasters fixing that issue are in the works. These early episodes make me cringe

[@RedArrow73]

UNLISTENABLE! DISLIKE!!