In the gym with England Rugby

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@djeidam
@djeidam 8 жыл бұрын
I had an oportunity to train in this huge powerbase for one year. Miss those times in Loughborough! :)
@miertjie94
@miertjie94 11 жыл бұрын
i would love to see more workout videos!
@user-vk9kx5nh3j
@user-vk9kx5nh3j 10 жыл бұрын
3:10 tuilagi benching 100kg like its a warmup, which it probably is...
@kongmanqueally7003
@kongmanqueally7003 5 жыл бұрын
Tuilagi should be benching 250kg. I doubt he has an issue with a 100
@David-ud9ju
@David-ud9ju 3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty much a close grip bench too given how narrow his grip is.
@kieranaustin4004
@kieranaustin4004 10 жыл бұрын
Funny how half the comments here are addressing squat depth - people seeming to think they know more than qualified pro's. Search papers by Pinto et al (2012) and Eugene-McMahon (2013) - both found no significant different in muscle hypertrophy or performance between a full and partial ROM. (Granted, pinto addressed elbow flexors but findings can still be applied). Not always wise to follow the words of youtube bodybuilders when it comes to fitness.
@tomfaranda
@tomfaranda 11 жыл бұрын
Don't be a hater. First guy was parallel and the second guy's one squat wasn't a full squat - but very heavy weight for his size.
@rehanbbbl
@rehanbbbl 11 жыл бұрын
they don't necessarily have to go butt to ankles to get the full benefit but they need to go well below what they were squatting to in the video.
@dominicmacinnes6451
@dominicmacinnes6451 11 жыл бұрын
Power squatting only requires parallel knees for full RM. Its how you properly do that variation.
@rehanbbbl
@rehanbbbl 11 жыл бұрын
there are multiple people above explaining exactly why. Full ROM squats are superior to partial ROM for strength and mobility as well as being safer. If you cannot squat deep then there is no reason for you to be adding load to the squat.
@stephenkamau8848
@stephenkamau8848 4 жыл бұрын
There is a reason y I love this game
@rehanbbbl
@rehanbbbl 11 жыл бұрын
the goal of training is have better on field performance. I play rugby and I know what carries over well and what doesn't I also regularly train with other rugby players and can compare. A research article by H. Hartmann found deep squats to be significantly better to improve explosiveness. Squatting shallow like in the video serves no purpose other than maybe spinal load (which could be achieved much better with different exercises). A squat remains a squat across the board.
@SuperShelley08
@SuperShelley08 11 жыл бұрын
I was going to do an antonym joke between English Rugby/gym but realised that doesn't really work. Congrats on your win over our AB's. Let's get a rivalry going.
@Crazylalalalala
@Crazylalalalala 11 жыл бұрын
great that is what i have been doing anyhow. just need to do more sprint training. thank you
@Tenereus
@Tenereus 11 жыл бұрын
1:13 - Tom Youngs doing pull ups with 50kg between his legs... how the hell does that even work? I can do maybe 5 pull ups with no weight at all...
@TheWebdex
@TheWebdex 10 жыл бұрын
I agree wtf are those squats? Particularly the forwards, I'm not even talking about the weight...Range of Motion ffs
@TheSideburno
@TheSideburno 9 жыл бұрын
Duke Box they might be working on their sticking points
@MrMultifunc
@MrMultifunc 9 жыл бұрын
The reason they don't squat that deep is because that is about you much you normally squat in a match, it build the power to jump higher eg
@CachoTelch
@CachoTelch 9 жыл бұрын
Alex Davenport They are not working even the half of the muscle fibers that a jump needs... SQUAT DEEP OR GO HOME!
@MrMultifunc
@MrMultifunc 9 жыл бұрын
Cacho Telch squatting deep, full length and contraction, time under tension.. all are good for hypertrophy. He doesn't want to bulk up anymore, he just wants the fast push to help explosive power and speed. It is a very sport specific squat. I'm not saying this is the only squat a rugby player should do, but it is good to include it in your program.
@CachoTelch
@CachoTelch 9 жыл бұрын
You don't know shit dude, no one talk about TUT or bulk up, squating deep will make you stronger, that's a fact, period. The reps, the sets and the volumen/intensity will make you bulk up or build strength...if you need explosive power and speed it's all in the rep cadence and the intensity... and you can't build strength and speed at the same time, they are two different things. What this shitty dude is doing it's only making him stronger, but slower...and with that form it's a waste of time, he'll never get the results of a full ass to grass deep squat...I'm stronger than him just for squating the 80% of that weight with an ass to grass squat...and I'm 70% of his size SCIENCE BRAH :v
@nose3434
@nose3434 10 жыл бұрын
I just realized that the gym in my town of Loughborough. £363 for the year membership. Just finishing one contract from another gym then i'm going to go into the Loughborough University Gym.
@rehanbbbl
@rehanbbbl 11 жыл бұрын
either you have bad eyesight or don't know what you're talking about, powerlifters squat to well below 90˚ of flexion (and don't tell me otherwise i have been to many meets in different federations ). Between the two athletes weightlifters are significantly more athletic between the two which has the most carryover to on - field performance. Moving the muscle through a big ROM activates the highest amount of motor units and increases explosiveness far more than half squats-which lead to injuries
@ThePipiopi
@ThePipiopi 11 жыл бұрын
I would suggest it's a functional squat, so depth isn't really relevant in this case. For example, when props set for a scrum they do not go through a full range of motion, therefore training with deep squats isn't really going to benefit the player on the field.
@Tenereus
@Tenereus 11 жыл бұрын
The bar weighs 20 and there are 4 20kg plates on the bar. (4x20)+20=100.
@samwilmott2372
@samwilmott2372 11 жыл бұрын
I assume it's to reduce injury risk.
@rednech23
@rednech23 12 жыл бұрын
thats because it is his warm up...beast!!
@lukasmikek
@lukasmikek 11 жыл бұрын
WOW!!!i wishh to see more people like you training at my gym mate:)i do as to grass squats and been told that am doing wrong:Dpeople are sa uneducated;/well done!!!
@tomhead8938
@tomhead8938 11 жыл бұрын
that maybe what they are ment to do though, e.g quarter or half squat
@RobTyler93
@RobTyler93 11 жыл бұрын
I disagree with you Kane, I've performed full parallel/ass to grass/deep squats for 4years now, my knees are fine. Over development of the quads puts pressure on the knees if the hamstrings and glutes do not develop with the quads. Injury in bodybuilding comes from people not leaving their pride at the door. Doing a full squat with a weight too heavy causes your knees to buckle in = knee injury. Technique is more important
@Crazylalalalala
@Crazylalalalala 11 жыл бұрын
Hi does anyone know of some fitness resources for a beginner rugby player. just joined a team and it anarchy out there. surely doesn't help much when I am not fit for it. I would appreciate any sources to help me get fit for rugby. I figure I need to run more, strength is pretty good from American Football but need more conditioning. Just not sure what will be better for rugby. long distance or short interval sprint type routines. Also anything that will help with injury prevention.
@christiansimmons630
@christiansimmons630 10 жыл бұрын
who is the guy squatting at 0:52?
@JWTutorial
@JWTutorial 10 жыл бұрын
Loughborough gym, love it, there this morning for an hour watt bike
@SoCalRugger
@SoCalRugger 11 жыл бұрын
not performing full range of motion for any movement is a way to increase injury.
@eugenepoon
@eugenepoon 11 жыл бұрын
Is this in twickers, pennyhill park or where?
@apemaverick07
@apemaverick07 11 жыл бұрын
So they aren't trying to build up their muscles/body?
@will27h
@will27h 11 жыл бұрын
Tom Youngs, he's doing weighted pull ups with and extra 60kgs on...crazy!
@edwhitehouse4155
@edwhitehouse4155 8 жыл бұрын
That looks unbelievably hard!
@G00n3r4Life
@G00n3r4Life 11 жыл бұрын
When in the scrum is it important to be strong in a deep squat?
@jeffjefferson3364
@jeffjefferson3364 5 жыл бұрын
If you're a prop you need strong legs. Being as strong as you can be across a full range of motion will prevent injury, don't train too heavy is key make small increases every now and again. Deadlift is nearly more important and some weighted abdominal twists too with your feet raised. You need a strong core so you don't buckle and flexible strength too.
@marnixvanstrydonck3416
@marnixvanstrydonck3416 11 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have an idea on what song is used here?
@alexmoore5230
@alexmoore5230 11 жыл бұрын
in one of the england vids he said he did 190kg!!
@GeorgeProwse
@GeorgeProwse 10 жыл бұрын
As a fitness instructor, I'd love to get an insight into their fitness/strength training schedules
@markwebster8715
@markwebster8715 10 жыл бұрын
I just watched a similar video of the all blacks. So, where's the cardio? I don't see any cycles in the place, or anyone doing jump rope etc.
@GeorgeProwse
@GeorgeProwse 10 жыл бұрын
Mark Webster That's obviously the weights room. It looks specifically designed. There will be a whole other room for cardio.
@markwebster8715
@markwebster8715 10 жыл бұрын
Sure, I guess so, but the trainer in the video spends a good deal of time talking about weights. Like, I'm always surprised at the size of the English team compared to the All Blacks. Such massive upper bodys and arms, even in the backs.
@GeorgeProwse
@GeorgeProwse 10 жыл бұрын
Mark Webster That's weird, I'd say that about the AB. The England pack is the best in the world but our backs seem to run out of ideas too quickly. But hey, we were playing against a team that is possibly the best side ever and has 3 times more caps than us. In a few years I see England being a real force. When you take that fact that even our captain only has 20 caps you start to see the potential of this team.
@runtimus5743
@runtimus5743 10 жыл бұрын
Mark Webster I would of thought the cardio is mixed with the actual on the pitch training, and the gym work is souly gym work.
@slipknot5905
@slipknot5905 11 жыл бұрын
is that Loughborough Uni??
@SneakyTurtle296
@SneakyTurtle296 11 жыл бұрын
Probably is, I've heard he benches 195 kg's.
@IsleyNumber1
@IsleyNumber1 12 жыл бұрын
Gee, I don't know. Why would an athlete want to be strong through a full range of motion. Seems like a stupid thing to me. Let's just be strong in a partial range of motion, great idea. I would definitely hire you in an S&C capacity with the knowledge you've displayed today. Welcome to Injuriestown RFC.
@arnoldandrew6948
@arnoldandrew6948 9 жыл бұрын
cool training
@ginger2203
@ginger2203 11 жыл бұрын
You know what, I`m gonna be on the under 10s. And I`m gonna keep working to that. I am lazy, but I`m gonna rely try.
@lawsonnakamura8386
@lawsonnakamura8386 10 жыл бұрын
@Kieran Austin, no one is suggesting they won't grow strength doing quarter and half squats. If you perform a movement with increasing resistance no matter how you do it, it will strengthen you. The difference is, if you do it with bad form you will cause injury, especially long term injuries. Not squatting to depths will ruin your knees, cause severe patella, quadriceps tendinitis and/or tendinosis. They will ruin their lower back, ruin their hip flexors, they'll end up neglecting certain muscles by not targeting them through not performing the exercise with good form then overcompensating. All this bad form and high squatting is fine now, it won't be in 10-20 years from now and it certainly won't be if the end up trying to max with poor form and tear something or slip a disk. There's a reason why pretty much every weightlifter will tell you to squat to depth. It's not to sound like an arrogant ass, it's because weightlifters have realised through decades of weightlifting what is the best and safest way to perform these exercises so why argue against something that has been tried and tested?
@vakito5326
@vakito5326 11 жыл бұрын
which song?
@WowGAM3RZ
@WowGAM3RZ 11 жыл бұрын
Ye, he's is a 6 foot four prop, self explanitory mate ;)
@sapphire9989
@sapphire9989 9 жыл бұрын
it's just a squat these people are professional if you were a proper gym trainer then you wouldnt be complaining
@iJames802
@iJames802 11 жыл бұрын
Nah its Powerbase at loughborugh Uni
@ky93le
@ky93le 11 жыл бұрын
He has an elastic chest to bounce the weight up
@Whydisputedude
@Whydisputedude 11 жыл бұрын
The bar is normally 20. Do the math.
@TheMegaFudgy
@TheMegaFudgy 10 жыл бұрын
3:12 tuilagi??
@janoycresovas5order66compa9
@janoycresovas5order66compa9 9 жыл бұрын
+Sami Cheqrouni Yeah it is! 😆
@NickKingThe1st
@NickKingThe1st 11 жыл бұрын
andrew sheridans is over 220kg
@dmaavaisd
@dmaavaisd 11 жыл бұрын
That guy punching at 00:13 looks so funny
@dubbygrime
@dubbygrime 11 жыл бұрын
thats not true, bodybuilders suffer with tendonitis ( or how ever its spelt ) because of lifting that way. thats why you will rarely see them using full range, they always stop just short.
@jeffjefferson3364
@jeffjefferson3364 5 жыл бұрын
No it's cause it keeps the muscle under constant tension, or that's the idea, without locking out the muscle is under constant stress from the lift.
@GlutesBrah69
@GlutesBrah69 11 жыл бұрын
yeh im sure he weighs the same in off season as he does in season.. not like training every day and playing an 80min game of rugby once a week would make him lose weight in season.. and he actually weighs 115kg in season so im being generous by saying he weighs 120, he would probably weigh a bit more
@RAttMIce1896
@RAttMIce1896 11 жыл бұрын
1:15. who is that?
@handsomesquidward5160
@handsomesquidward5160 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Youngs
@rehanbbbl
@rehanbbbl 11 жыл бұрын
that's a big misconception, the gym is for strength not skill of sport specific conditioning crap. To get strong you need to squat right.
@mcchuff
@mcchuff 11 жыл бұрын
+ 20kg bar = 100kg.
@sophiefresson1938
@sophiefresson1938 11 жыл бұрын
its actually 80 not 100...
@IsleyNumber1
@IsleyNumber1 12 жыл бұрын
God no, I do a real degree. I don't care how rugby players squat but it sure rustles my jimmies when people claim to squat x kgs when that x was done with 30 degrees of flexion. So my comment, would not be impressed/10 still stands whether it's useful or not.
@MegaGinge7
@MegaGinge7 11 жыл бұрын
tuilagi only weighs 110 kg
@Ishuzu
@Ishuzu 12 жыл бұрын
3:08 Tuilagi banging out 100kg as though it's just his warm-up...
@zammerock121
@zammerock121 11 жыл бұрын
Tuilagi literally warming up with 100kg on the bench
@rehanbbbl
@rehanbbbl 11 жыл бұрын
don't argue ? because you rely on broscience to make your arguments?
@zanderblair
@zanderblair 11 жыл бұрын
Nice knee bends at 2:25
@tomfaranda
@tomfaranda 11 жыл бұрын
Parallel is fine.
@thelifeofpieman
@thelifeofpieman 11 жыл бұрын
I a lot of half squatting going on. Son I am disappoint
@dyefrey
@dyefrey 11 жыл бұрын
Hey there, have you tried "Musclegends" (search on Google)? On their website you can watch a good free video demonstrating how you can develop visible muscles easily. It made it possible for Brandon to break through his muscle development plateau and then pack on cut lean muscle with no fat very quickly. It may help you out too...
@Beansieee
@Beansieee 11 жыл бұрын
Professional athletes among no doubt highly skilled/experienced sports scientists and trainers, think they know what they're doing. Not trying to look good.
@Veneratio10
@Veneratio10 12 жыл бұрын
dude 200kg is pretty fucking impressive....
@whattheholf91
@whattheholf91 12 жыл бұрын
No, but you clearly no nothing about strength training. The quad always works in tandem with the hamstring in order to balance the forces on either side of the knee. Half squats are only good for the ego.
@RAttMIce1896
@RAttMIce1896 11 жыл бұрын
2:06 cute little danny...
@duncanmateer8522
@duncanmateer8522 9 жыл бұрын
GET 90!!!!!
@The021589cjr
@The021589cjr 11 жыл бұрын
Bodybuilders suffer those injuries because they do endless repetitions of the exact same movements for years. It has nothing to do with range of motion.
@user-vk9kx5nh3j
@user-vk9kx5nh3j 11 жыл бұрын
bar is 20
@user-vk9kx5nh3j
@user-vk9kx5nh3j 11 жыл бұрын
effectively is a warm up ahah, he benches 90kg 38 times
@dominicmacinnes6451
@dominicmacinnes6451 11 жыл бұрын
What?
@BobSmith-dt6xs
@BobSmith-dt6xs 7 жыл бұрын
So like every other sport, they have no idea how to train in the gym. I saw one guy doing some hang power cleans that looked okay and then the bench pressing, step ups and glute bridges would be okay for some accessory movements (I bet they weren't accessories though) and the boxing would be okay for conditioning, but they should really be doing conditioning on a track or on the field. The rest was absolute crap though. Terrible, border line dangerous ego squats; a load of grip work (why on Earth would they need grip work?); poor form weighted chin ups seem popular as well (it is a great ego lift); pilates; and what was the balancing the dumbbell on your palm about? At this level, they should have developed enough muscle. They then need to just focus on powerlifting and olympic lifting.
@TheSideburno
@TheSideburno 9 жыл бұрын
For those bitching about the squats, they may be working on their sticking points or learning to handle that amount of weight before they can fully squat it.
@bengough6955
@bengough6955 9 жыл бұрын
+TheSideburno lol also..... even if it's not olympic levels of perfection ... That guy is still a pro rugby player and is clearly doing something that works XD
@jeffjefferson3364
@jeffjefferson3364 5 жыл бұрын
Learn to squat before you handle any weight is another option. Also, box squats
@TheABLEMAN10
@TheABLEMAN10 11 жыл бұрын
Rugby is way better than football! Who's with me?
@user-vk9kx5nh3j
@user-vk9kx5nh3j 11 жыл бұрын
3:12 manu tuilagi benching 100kg like its a fucking warmup
@MrHazzaBombazza
@MrHazzaBombazza 11 жыл бұрын
80
@andrewgrain4520
@andrewgrain4520 10 жыл бұрын
Lets hire some guy who has studied a sports science degree to improve an rugby players performance but has never done a squat in their life. There is NO need to quarter squat. The limiting factor in the squat is back strength, so why put on more wight than one can handle and not work legs.
@Clluthu
@Clluthu 9 жыл бұрын
I think theres a few factors involved. one, people believe their flexibilty isn't enough which I think is bullshit. This is due to not using correct form and technique. two, they wouldn't look like their squatting a lot, because people want to be able to look like they're squatting cars...This also leads to people doing quarter squats, because they don't believe they will be able to get up from such a low position.
@MrMultifunc
@MrMultifunc 9 жыл бұрын
Let's hire some of the best sports scientists and nutritionalists to create a customised programme for each athlete. Let's say it's bullshit because I've seen a KZbin video of someone saying ass to grass are the only way!
@cheetos1768
@cheetos1768 8 жыл бұрын
To much weights not enough speed work ,and a lack of basic ball skills
@IsleyNumber1
@IsleyNumber1 12 жыл бұрын
1st thing I see, a non parallel squat with a little over 200kg. 1/10 am not impressed
@RichBauer
@RichBauer 11 жыл бұрын
You know what I find world class athletes do in their spare time? Comment on youtube videos calling other world class athletes weak. Oh no, wait. They don't. That's what irritating self-proclaimed know it alls do.
@rehanbbbl
@rehanbbbl 11 жыл бұрын
mmmm what?
@rehanbbbl
@rehanbbbl 11 жыл бұрын
hahah sure there big guy. Let's just use logic on an even more basic level where you clearly need to start. For getting strong let's look at how the strongest people on the planet train.... i.e. powerlifters (westside barbell etc) or weightlifters (olympics) how many of them do half squats? and yes those coaches are doing squats wrong.
@homiemchomester4532
@homiemchomester4532 10 жыл бұрын
nice half squats
@EddyMaiden11
@EddyMaiden11 11 жыл бұрын
What kind of squats were they? Fuck sake you're professional athletes
@ky93le
@ky93le 11 жыл бұрын
No.
@ky93le
@ky93le 11 жыл бұрын
Why cause he is hang cleaning 60kg? ha
@Y0SS4RI4N
@Y0SS4RI4N 11 жыл бұрын
no, 100
@wraith2209
@wraith2209 11 жыл бұрын
EASY
@billyblue439
@billyblue439 11 жыл бұрын
rugby players cant squat, some at my gym and they dont even go paralell neverer mind below paralell!
@rehanbbbl
@rehanbbbl 11 жыл бұрын
ok?....
@smiffy1708
@smiffy1708 10 жыл бұрын
terrible squats terrible cleans, disappointing...
@curc649
@curc649 10 жыл бұрын
They do strength sets in the power rack to work on certain parts of their squat for rugby. Not everybody is a pussy that works out just to look better
@harliquinrugb6853
@harliquinrugb6853 10 жыл бұрын
curc649 There is no plus side to half repping your squats. Stop calling people out on stuff you have no clue about.
@dannygrout92
@dannygrout92 10 жыл бұрын
Harliquin Rug b rugby is incredibly taxing on the knees, deep squats only exacerbate those kinds of problems. It is recommended to squat to parallel for most sports. Beyond 90 degrees you increase pressure over the knee cap and risk ligament damage, it's called training smart. Then you'll have better longevity, and if you are a professional sports person why risk losing your source of income just to squat super heavy and super deep.
@kieranw30
@kieranw30 10 жыл бұрын
form police now days thinking their god haha pathetic, there workouts are ADJUSTED to let them take beatings on the field not put more unnecessary stress on their joints
@TheWebdex
@TheWebdex 10 жыл бұрын
Agree with the squats, Range of motion is far more important than the weights, Didn't see any props could be mistaken but surely they would be doing ass to grass squatting as scrummaging is all about range of motion
@GlutesBrah69
@GlutesBrah69 11 жыл бұрын
it should be his fucking warmup haha he weighs 120kg
@user-vk9kx5nh3j
@user-vk9kx5nh3j 11 жыл бұрын
He was benching 190kg at age 18 ahaha
@badongdi
@badongdi 11 жыл бұрын
so what? they are the ones playing international rugby at the highest level... not you...
@user-vk9kx5nh3j
@user-vk9kx5nh3j 11 жыл бұрын
Bar weighs 20... >clearly doesnt lift
@DKYUNG1082
@DKYUNG1082 11 жыл бұрын
sounds like this guys has NO idea about strrength programing...
@jorgeregatuso6793
@jorgeregatuso6793 8 жыл бұрын
aguante los pumas.....
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