Enlisted is an infuriating mess.

[@DWTerminator]

I made a follow-up video covering the August 14, 2024 economy update as well as some of the stuff people have been bringing up in the comments on this video. You can find that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6KvYXmHbb6ZfLM

[@Hypersend]

I didnt realize how out of date this video is for only being only a month ago ignore most my comments. Shouldve made my own video with how much I was talking to myself looking at this, great video btw!

[@Hypersend]

Actually just ignore all of em honestly, I just wanted to write my thoughts down

[@Dewski34]

The games pretty fun… when it’s not 5 marshals on the opposing team curb stomping you, having someone cycle planes with rockets, or get into a match with a cheater. Yeah, 75% of the time you’re not really having a good time, but that 25% you are having a decent game feels amazing.

[@ShodaiTakumi]

They literally make $45 squads instead of redesigning AI to seek cover and not run in front of you when you're in combat

[@wlnecro8283]

Ai does seek cover

[@ShodaiTakumi]

@@smallebige they don't seek cover, they just go where you tell them, so a lot of times they'll just be on the opposite side of where you tell them to hide. I understand that they have features, but don't sit here and pretend that the AI isn't complete shit 🤷

[@ShodaiTakumi]

@@smallebige It's not a lie, they don't take cover. They stand where you tell them to. They go to a point and basically run in circles, not actually use the cover. Telling them to do every little thing is pointless because it takes time to tell them to do little things, and then once you go 50M away you have to do it all over again. The fact that the best thing you can do with AI is to just hide them somewhere is sad.

[@thenoobsoftheplebstheplebn7834]

The ai is garbage my own squad has exposed my position so many times it’s crazy

[@A2Moonclaw]

For those watching this video, I would like to let y'all know that Enlisted just dropped a MAJOR economy update making the grind twice as fast, and all equipment half the prices!

[@DWTerminator]

And yet the game's progression is still a complete slog that prevents players from having access to important core gameplay mechanics until they've spent several hours grinding through the tech tree. People keep acting like the economy update was a "silver bullet" that magically fixes the criticisms I put forth when it was really just Darkflow/Gaijin applying a bandage to a tumor and acting like that was enough to fix it.

[@A2Moonclaw]

@@DWTerminator It is not a slog. Im tier 3 and unlocked my next weapon in 3 matches (browning auto 5). Way better than before, it's doable and everything is actually affordable now. The economy update has made great changes to the game that makes grinding way easier and more enjoyable. If you are expecting players to get a weapon in 1 match then that kind of defeats the purpose of a grind and having to unlock gear in the first place.

[@DWTerminator]

What part of "important core gameplay mechanics are locked behind a grind wall, which should never happen in any game" is so hard for you Enlisted fans to understand?

[@A2Moonclaw]

@@DWTerminator Im with you on that. An engineer squad should be in the starting line up.

[@wlnecro8283]

Literally a f2p game but spit ur shit man

[@juleksz.5785]

Say what you want, but game being objective only is very good, and gun play and tank gemaplay are apbsolutely amazing. I haven't heard such good gun sounds since WW3 beta tests, and tanks actually feel like 10 ton warmachines and are fun to play.

[@DWTerminator]

The gunplay and tanks are merely serviceable at best. Other games do both considerably better.

[@YounesBoussouar-su7qk]

@@DWTerminator nah you just want the tanks to be like WT arcade mode

[@dragonproductions236]

@@DWTerminator WT Arcade player spotted.

[@DWTerminator]

Realistic, actually.

[@appllwithmemes]

Enlisted is fire, don't know what to tell you.

[@YounesBoussouar-su7qk]

He's not even hiding it, he want it to be some stupid arcade game (especially the tanks) The paywall is an issue but the F2P game play is more than fine. As somebody who played Enlisted for some time the only 2 things that made me leave the game is the depressing bots and the always crying selfish playerbase

[@kieranstanding]

I have played enlisted for about a year now. I would honestly say even though there are many issues with enlisted, it is definitely worth playing and is very enjoyable

[@DWTerminator]

That just sounds like the sunk cost fallacy at play.

[@camala.]

The game has flaw but for some it is still fun

[@aegis408]

@@camala.if they fix the economy then I’ll get back on

[@camala.]

@@aegis408 did you see the economy new economy change?

[@joaogomes9405]

@@smallebige he's not, no. He's incredibly combative

[@meedows8062]

As someone who has played off and on for years, I do miss the campaign selection. The new design just doesnt do it.

[@stekarknugen9258]

I recently returned because I got a hankering to run around spraying stuff with an MP40 again and I wondered where the campaign selector had gone. I liked the desert maps but now you just get random shit

[@firefker]

@@stekarknugen9258 Haven't seen on Tunisia map since I started playing again the other day, they were the best maps, now we just have to enjoy random shit.

[@jasonrusso9808]

I agree, I miss the US Army Divisions of that format.

[@onisfury8264]

When I first tried this game I did not like the campaign feature in the beginning and pretty much has dropped it day one after I downloaded it. When I came back years later when the merge happened I gave the game another chance and I much prefer this version despite all its problems because I can select whatever faction I want and I've been pretty much been enjoying this game and I much enjoyed it over call of duty. Yes the bots are a problem but I rather have stupid enemy bots than intelligent enemy bots that kill you in stupid ways like the ones on call of duty ghosts.

[@mistertwister2828]

i played enlisted a few years ago and the grind was very low key compared to what it is now... (after maybe 10h of grinding i had a t-34-85 among other things like tier 3 bombers for axis) now ive played prob 30-40h and ive basically only unlocked 3 low tier tanks and a handful of low tier guns

[@DWTerminator]

Somehow I'm not surprised that the grind used to be less severe.

[@Kildaer]

@@DWTerminator The game originally was not a F2P game, I preordered when it was first pitched due to good will towards Warthunder and it became a F2P later so the progression at a certain point was not a F2P hamster wheel that it is today. I assume that the grind will follow Warthunder where they lower the increments of grind per content as the game matures, but it will still be a hamster wheel from hell. What my 30 dollars got me was a premium MP41 assault squad and 15x 25 round magazine'd trench Mausers and the Soviets getting 15x nutty 32 damage Mosins The most frustrating part I am having is that you need to perform well with new squads to make them stronger so when you need them to be strong they are the weakest. Silver has simply not been an issue when you aggressively manage gear and troops but I can see it being an issue in high tier. This is most pronounced with squads without a lot of weapon grind as squads in tiers have the same XP cap so squads with less weapon upgrade options getting up to strength much slower. I find the squad level grind awful until you get the engineer unlocked. Oddly enough despite the low player base Japan has some of the nuttiest kit and due to the sparse tree have less chaff grind to get to it: the objectively best AT rifle, the PTRS fires faster, but does less damage and has less magazine capacity and is 1 tier higher then the type 97 AT, the Type 38 rifle having a 72 RPM bolt and some of the best in slot early machine guns. This isn't even factoring the fact that most of their gear has bayonets and they have access to swords means that they are the fastest infantry faction in a game that rewards mobility. Personally for me it is the FNAB-43 tier 2, no recoil, 40 round magazine, and I like the low rate of fire as the magazine stamina means you can keep windows cleared or more importantly tag all the AI/mad players that will run around the corner after you tag a player.

[@DesertWolfpup]

I don't know, man. I just about completed Germany in about 3-4 days. I think this new grind is much easier than the old one

[@DWTerminator]

In 24 hours of play time I was barely in tier 2, and that was only because I deliberately went for the MG squad. There is no conceivable way you "just about completed" Germany in 3-4 days. Even if you have premium it'd still take much longer than that.

[@Megafragger_]

Dark flow basically decided to turn the game into war thunder, a progression system which is notorious for being hated.

[@lukekalisz1817]

7:00 Anti tank cannons built by engineers can be pushed around if you have an available squad member. The cannons have between 2-3 operators, and when you interact wjth the cannon, your squadmates will try to fill the extra spots. When the cannon has the max number of operators, use the same method as switching seats in a vehicle. This will put you in a position where you can slowly push the cannon around.

[@YounesBoussouar-su7qk]

He's clearly not (far from) experienced what do you expect from him

[@TovarishTony]

I used to play from April 2021 until December 2023 where the merge happened. One of the main selling points was being able to choose what campaigns to play but it was removed because of the merge. I have invested so much on pre-merge with squad slots per campaign, Stalingrad full access pass and even a premium squad only to turn into War Thunder Infantry Forces where along with the merge of campaigns, a battle rating system thats more designed for vehicle combat like War Thunder turned the game into something unrecognizable from the game I used to love which was the old Enlisted where it wasn't perfect like the grind but way better than the current state. Their refusal to listen to alternatives instead of this narrative of "merge will fix all problems of the game" which was a thing before and after the merge like they could've simplified the campaign system to an early and late war + Eastern and Western front type. Had commented on Steam review where one of the problems he pointed out is how the PPSh never sees Moscow anymore because of locking campaigns behind BR despite historical use there alongside the PPD-40(an early war gun but never see early war map on this) besides King Tigers in Stalingrad. This merge update split the community between those who like the merge and those who don't to the point that the latter uninstalled the game right after the merge update.

[@Kildaer]

Honestly I don't find the lack of AAA to be an issue in the game simply due to the fact that barring players that excel at dive bombing and even then, the secret is that they simply do not have the output to tilt the game and are 90% of the time a wasted slot somebody fills in if they want to get a lot of potential score points to farm XP, silver, or research, and honestly they give out a lot more points to those that shoot them down. The reason for this is that it take longer for them to bomb, rearm, and then bomb then it takes a squad to respawn and be combat effective, so the only effect they tend to have is to get lucky and clear out a lot of dude at a critical moment to create a dire/swingy objective fight every squad with a radio operator can do AND capture/defend objectives. And if one of them gets annoying just build the AAA gun or have an anti tank rifle because oddly enough one hit with an AT rifle obliterates the plane's damage model for some dumb reason.

[@rocksteadyska6933]

A decent stuka guy/corsair pilot can make playing armour a nightmare but I get your point

[@jkjkrandom]

Even a high fire rate infantry gun like the Mg 15 can kill planes fairly effectively if they fly right at you

[@shellshockedgerman3947]

@@jkjkrandom Because the MG15 is a machine gun intended for planes.

[@ZealothPL]

As an avid air spammer in Enlisted I honestly don't get why people whine about idiots crashing their planes into the ground on purpose. I literally NEVER see them do anything of value. You know can loiter over the battlefield skullfkin the enemies over a longer period of time dropping bombs or rockets one at a time, having the time to spot and aim for actual blobs of enemies...

[@jcrebel18]

I'm not even through the whole video, but this already sounds so convoluted that I don't even want to try it.

[@jameslancaster5179]

enlisted is a good game, but he dose have good points about the game and add on top of every thing that he said, some the players also act like bots.

[@marcethington3942]

Dog don't play. It's dog shit, it's like War thunder of the stupid shit grind. You have to go through and the tech trees and all that. It's just terrible. I Miss the days when we played campaign. Because they made it easier to get what you wanted and have a goal for the player It was a grind. However, it was a fun grind. And the perk system sucks ass The Ingame currency is one of the worse. I can argue It is worse than war thunder Ingame currency. Because at least you get a good value. Then the one you get enlisted.

[@jakubgadzala7474]

@@marcethington3942 I see skills issue and wrong tech tree choices

[@marcethington3942]

@@jakubgadzala7474 Dude, I've been playing this game Before the fucking tech tree. fucking campaign change into the tech tree. Now all my shit is all convoluted and fuck. So how could you explain skill issue?

[@Dregomz02]

@@marcethington3942 You sure loved unlocking mp40 5 times?

[@thetrav2100]

level things up, so you can level things so you can unlock the ability to unlock more tiers of things up, like, its alot, they need to just simplify the system entirely, have one exp currency for everything

[@ProdAlarick]

Exp is not the problem,silver is becouse if you are a new player you most likely spend that 50k for things you don't need and when you get to BR2-3 you have to upgrade your main squads rifle by rifle and by the time you do that you unlocked 2-3 other squads...not even talking about vechicles.

[@thetrav2100]

@@ProdAlarick yeh its rediculous, some people like that sort of thing tho, grinding for something good but when u have no idea whats good or what to grind for then its rlly rough when u spend a week grinding something only for it to be bad lol

[@ZealothPL]

Lemme tell you a secret: game is exactly as fun at BR2 as it is at BR5... You earn just as much in BR2 as you do in BR5 The grind is all in your head

[@tar244you8]

@@ProdAlarick i told my friend to download enlisted and i said you get 25k instantly as a new player plus the new economy makes it really good i said spend 5k at most then save the rest until u get to mid br 2 that's where the sweats are because they don't want to play BR 5 instead and yeah i can see why anyways my point is by the the time you get to br 2 you will have around about 50-60k saved then spend about 30k on treating your squads with mines grenades dual weapons or upgrades to vehicles by the time you do that in mid br 2 by the time you get to br 3 you would of already made up the 30k lost

[@tar244you8]

@@ZealothPL exactly most experienced players play br 2 so that they can feat up on the noobs which is understandable because after playing a lot of br 5 it gets to you especially after several losses

[@RichardPhillips1066]

You reminded me of back in the day quitting servers when I realized there was bots on my team , back then it was considered unusual

[@DWTerminator]

I guess it didn't have the squad system back then?

[@RichardPhillips1066]

@@DWTerminator no with private serversvyou didn't really need , squads to feel connected ...the whole server was a community...

[@McKae00]

He means the literal bots in your squad that follow you around. Not your actual teammates

[@RichardPhillips1066]

@@McKae00 well ok but I've never liked bots , kills my immersion, opinion defer

[@adeotorlucagbo4753]

Some of them are frustrated players bro lol When the battle is already being messed up most of the player are rage and quiting the battle due to loose in battle or miss match ranks Ex: when your teammate is low rank the you facing a Marshall, One Star General, 4 Star General or worst is Pure team Marshall ranks

[@Ghost_Of_SAS]

You are the kind of guy who would care about this detail so I'm going to say it: it's "càrcano" with the accent on the first A. I know a bunch of reputable people who talk about guns on KZbin pronounce it "carcàno", but I can assure you that in Italian the accent is on the first A.

[@DWTerminator]

Thanks for the correction. As for why everyone puts the accent on the second a, it's never written with accent marks and there's not a lot of general interest in Italian WWI/WWII small arms (hell in the US collectors market, they're some of the cheapest milsurps you'll find... the only Italian milsurps that are expensive are the BM59s and that's mostly just because they're "weird M14s").

[@Ghost_Of_SAS]

@@DWTerminator Oh yeah it's totally fair: the only way one would even hear it is by going out of his way to specifically look for italian language gun videos, so i don't fault anyone for misplacing the accent.

[@thejonathan130]

​@@Ghost_Of_SAS so... Is it pronounced "kAhr-kAh-no" or "kAhr-kay-no"? I'm confused

[@rocksteadyska6933]

@@thejonathan130 Kahr-Kah-no

[@PinkMawile]

I hate the obsession with progression in multiplayer games anymore.

[@DWTerminator]

Progression systems were neat back around the time of CoD4 when they were something new and different. They pretty quickly started spiraling out of control, though.

[@Dregomz02]

They are now like a second job even with premium acc and squads

[@KA-vs7nl]

games with fomo weapons are a no go for me. locking game content is a huge red flag

[@mitchellmcguire1121]

Speak for yourself. Old MP got boring too fast with no actual goals for playing. New MP takes too long people say with tons of stuff and high requirements. So just play until you don’t want to anymore the game is free This game may have stupid P2W features and microtransactions but at least I don’t have to see Nikki running around a warzone or some anime character drop shotting with a heavy ass HMG This is the closet we’ve came to CoD W@W level fun in a WW2 MP game. Battlefield has dropped the ball since 4 and CoD since original MW3 I’ll grind for two years just to get an MG-42 if it means I don’t have to deal with any of the other things any time and any life I live P.S. people forget that before unlocks and classes people used to just camp weapon drop spots and it was lame (looking at you DOOM, Quake, and UT)

[@vladislavivanov2334]

@@DWTerminator tbf, It's Gaijin, Those played War Thunder for more than a dozen of hours that the grind started getting ridicolous Just when fan's favprite vehicles started to appear

[@stechnicalmike3058]

I want to love Enlisted so much, it has sooo many weapons and so much attention to details like unique regiments and divisions, unique soldiers that existed in real life like Audy Murphy and so much more like Italian and Japanese stuff that we rarely see in games. The problem is, the game feels cheap and clunky, animations are off, most guns feel the same and the bots are catastrophic. The devs need to fix the AI and they must introduce Lone Fighter as the standard mode and make 100 player servers. This way people can play Squad to upgrade their soldiers faster or enjoy more casual gameplay and then hop on Lone Fighter to experience more realistic and brutal gameplay. (Yes I know you can play lone fighters, but no effort is put into it by the devs, they need to introduce it as a main mode to attract more players and add content around it.)

[@AnIdiot49]

I used to love this game but then that dam overhaul update came out and the balance was utterly ruined. My bold action Moscow squad that had a single tier 4 smg was suddenly jammed into Berlin and I hate playing in urban environments and I can’t go back to Moscow because that would mean abandoning all the gear I had played for days to get.

[@sorvex9]

Game is run by toddlers

[@p_jgeon6527]

Well the update actually balanced the game 🤷

[@1F.A]

Maybe grijd for just br 2 stuff instead of being a dumbass

[@halo129830]

As soon as the overhaul update came out I quit playing I have some serious amounts of event squads and vehicles I even have those weird flak vehicles. I knew and everyone knew that gajin would force a teir system eventually and we all milked enlisted for what it was worth till then

[@halo129830]

@@smallebige I’ve checked even though I still have all the top teir gear/squads/ equipment. The game has went from fun to play everyday to just horrifically unbalanced.

[@mattomondo216]

Just want to point out that the AT gunner's anti-tank rifle is extremely effective against aircraft. Pilots often get careless and approach in a predictable straight line. The AT rifle will take them out in a single shot, and the high round velocity makes it pretty easy to hit them.

[@xrxmonster9363]

idk man, a lot of these complaints seem like skill issues

[@DWTerminator]

Little to nothing I'm criticizing here has anything to do with player skill.

[@Mitchell_Gant]

Can't say I'm surprised after playing WT, the gameplay I saw of this looked interesting but Gaijin's history and what I heard about the (in)balance between the factions kept me from trying it out. And now...yeah, I think I'll be fine without this, just hearing the words "grinding silver" is enough to make my blood run cold after WT, and the rabbit hole goes so much deeper than that here. Gaijin is truly at top tier in wasting potential.

[@Dregomz02]

Soviet bias is even more real in this game than in WT. They shipped PPSh-41 box with laser accuracy and not fixed it for years. With tanks it's as bad. Most premiums are also crap on the German side while Soviets and Americans have some most op stuff hidden behind paywall (JP also too with paratroopers that have shields that block bullets wtf)

[@fabiusm7763]

I've played Enlisted and agree with almost all of your criticisms. A few additions. -You mentioned earlier that the Soviets have more of a player base due to better gear, and Japan doesn't have a player base at all(true, but almost entirely for low BRs). This doesn't highlight the issue entirely. The problem is that you get a 50% XP bonus for winning. So very often there is a "bandwagon" effect where one faction gets an event or new interesting gear, everyone, especially the experienced players plays that faction for the new gear, and there is no rebalancing of the player base because players are incentivized to keep on playing the faction that is winning 70-80% of the time. The game will typically flip-flop between the Axis having more of a player base to the Allies and the Soviets having more of a player base. -You mentioned that SMGs and MGs have arbitrary inaccuracy. Similar to planes being clunky, this is somewhat of a good thing considering Assaulter squads and MG squads are quite literally better than a myriad of other squads (Mortars, Radios, Snipers). The squad balancing is really off in this game. -I can think of at least a few more premium squads that come to mind that are straight-up better than what you can get normally. This includes all APC squads (which are literally superior to regular APC squads due to having better APCs, and more specialists in the squad), premium Soviet Paratroopers, and the premium MG13 squad with the 75 round drum mag, which has a very under BRed weapon (the MG13 w/ 75 round drum mag).

[@DWTerminator]

I did mention that the player base shifted after some changes were made, but if it's constantly shifting back and forth then that's even more obnoxious than just a major shift all at once. It just guarantees matchmaking is going to be a mess and the experience is going to be wildly uneven. I get what you're saying about the cone of fire on the SMGs, but it ends up making the SMGs with higher rates of fire considerably better than those with lower ones and severely affects the balancing. Sounds like a lot more of the premium squads are getting dangerously close to making the game pay to win than I originally thought.

[@c144gaming]

I just repicked up enlisted recently and so far have been enjoying it. It is full of flaws and really really premotes spending money to do better. Literally everything you can spend money to do better at. But also il2 ground attack runs go brrrrr.

[@jorgemelgarejo769]

Idk bro I’ve been playing this for a week now, and the only problem i have ai, and progression. All the weapons and vehicles feel great, and I’d say it’s right up there with hell let loose or insurgency sandstorm.

[@aegis408]

It would be a great game if they fixed the god awful progression and figured out how to fix their silver economy

[@ZealothPL]

Just did Cost are down massively, 80% less for basic gear most needed for fresh players, 60% lower for high tier stuff Plus you get flat bonuses for doing well, for f2p players that can easily add up to like +20 to +50% income

[@samz8691]

Enlisted is a shame since the concept is good but the execution is completely botched. A kinda similar game to this is Easy Red 2 and while it's a VERY Low budget indie, I honestly prefer it as it still has the "playing with an AI squad that you can switch between controlling" system which is honestly a mechanic I'm sad is mostly gone nowadays. (Not even Tom Clancy games have it anymore, closest thing is Fire Emblem Warriors Three Hopes of all things.) It has less content than Enlisted but it doesn't have an absurd grind.

[@Garcia1995]

I can see why companies decided to get rid of the switch AI squad mechanic, when you think about it, it acts like a try a 2nd time and functions more like a healthbar, and the switching can result in confussion.

[@samz8691]

@@Garcia1995 At least for me, it adds to the strategy of micromanagement and I love it in the older R6 games.

[@McKae00]

@@samz8691 Newer gamers are too stupid to micromanage things. Its why the RTS genre is basically dead outside of small dedicated playerbases.

[@Dregomz02]

Guns and tanks feel even worse in that game than in enlisted, HE shells have zero splash damage it's pathetic, maps have zero detail put into them. But at least they have French army and Egypt.

[@Garcia1995]

@@McKae00 It's not so much that the average player is "stupid" as you claim but rather that design has been left in the largely in the dust due to the way the industry was headed, games got so popular it's very hard for a game like the OG rainbow six to have the same success as it did back then, the monoculture has been shattered, and times are different, neither worse nor good, and definetily not needed to name call players for that.

[@jkjkrandom]

They just announced the next update will half xp and silver costs on average. I also believe you are underselling the amount of xp that can be gained from a match I regularly get 4-6 thousand xp per match before the Victory and/or battle hero bonuses 1.5x each respectively On a good match I can get 10k+ xp total after all bonuses without premium

[@jkjkrandom]

Also I played this game f2p for 3 years and it took me about 2 months of serious grinding to max one side of one campaign so if someone did the same thing now they could probably max out US or USSR in 3-4 months f2p

[@berserker1930]

The funny thing is enlisted used to be balance back in the days back then you would pick a faction and have a certain map You could only play. certain weapons only allowed on that particular map. now you can use any weapon that you want on that campaign. as long as you got the tear for it.

[@hadenmontgomery5888]

The anti tank gun you can move around you just change your seat aka hit 2 on your keyboard.

[@DWTerminator]

Good to know, but generally moving them is unnecessary.

[@legiox3719]

I have over 47D in game and 3000+ games played. Yes the silver economy needs to be fixed for new players. I don’t have that problem because I have everything unlocked and all squads max out to the fullest, so it’s difficult to see where new players are coming from. BUT yes veterans that have been around a long time have been pushing DF to make it better. And according to them they are working on fix. IMO planes are not clunky. The only one I hate flying is the 190, because it feels like you have an elephant on your tail. But all others are fun to fly. It takes some getting use to, but once it clicks it’s fun. I could go into much more detail to address the concerns, but being on a phone right now would be clunky to write a long response. For me? The game just feels good. I have been playing FPSs for a long time (20+ years) the gunplay feels like cod 1 type of play and I find enjoyment in that. Only two games have kept my attention for more than 3 years and it’s enlisted and company of heroes 2. Maybe come back when silver economy is addressed, but I would try and stick with it and I feel you will have a great time playing. I had a game a month ago on invasion mode and we were defending. Enemy team had 500 tickets left. We held that last point until the end. Our team didn’t talk much, but we mowed down waves after waves of player controlled squads for what felt like forever. We disarmed the bomb 3-4 times and it was a nail bitter and fun as hell. No game comes close to that kind of experience

[@420-cannacat]

💯

[@DWTerminator]

"according to them they are working on fix. " - From what I've seen, that statement really doesn't mean much. I mean players have been complaining about the business model, the terrible squad AI, and the balancing for years and Darkflow either never seems to fix it or if they do, it takes a *very* long time for them to do it. Like I said in the video, you can get used to the plane controls after a while, so that's probably why you don't think the plane controls are clunky. Saying CoH2 is one of the only two games to keep your attention for 3 years is... not really the ringing endorsement you probably think it is. That game was a disaster on launch and even after years of patching and extra content it's still not as good as the original.

[@callmesturgeon3214]

@@DWTerminator " From what I've seen, that statement really doesn't mean much. I mean players have been complaining about the business model, the terrible squad AI, and the balancing for years and Darkflow either never seems to fix it or if they do, it takes a very long time for them to do it." idk what you've been seeing, but they have been Throughout the game's lifespan, DF has been slowly improving AI, not to mention the countless other topics that needed addressed in the past. The way that DF quickly releases small bundles of patches and changes at a time can make these things easy to look over, but if you were to compare items, specifically AI, between a year ago and today, you'd see immense improvement. DF, in general, is a FAIR and RESPONSIBLE game developer. no, they're not perfect, AT ALL, the game is pricey, but they actually give a shit about the quality of experience they produce.

[@jkjkrandom]

​@@DWTerminatormy only advice for the planes is to just ignore all the controls that aren't on the 3 main mouse buttons and mouse movements, sure you will always lose a dogfight to an experienced player but you can fly the plane using only the mouse, and plenty of people do

[@MajorMcDonalds]

Wow, a 1 hour video, we can see this was thought out and detailed, and clearly since you've listed some really specific with some points in it, I can see you've actually experienced the game itself and bothered to learn it for a decently long period, unlike many other creators that play just 1 game alone and then review the whole game through it. So, after listening to it all, there are a number of valid points you raise, though there are also many things in your video I would disagree with. The theme you mention for most of the video is the progression system - which is something that is literally about to change and get a big overhaul (to the tech tree and Silver economy), which you could have seen and briefly mentioned in the video if you had read some of the recent news releases. The developer team is not huge, so these things take time, especially because the game is a F2P game and the improvements to progression had to be thought through carefully, to you know, not kill the game tomorrow. This news is coming quite soon. Further changes should be made to make things easier to understand as well. The developers are actively listening to players much more in recent months than ever before, and this was not really covered in the video either. There has been a number of improvements players were waiting for for a long time, finally completed. Yes, there are many more to come, and many of which are linked to negative points you mention in the video, but these developers listen way more to players than other games you mentioned in this video, with HLL going through some pushback as we speak with their own customization DLC packs, and Squad 44 only really showing signs of life in the last few weeks with new developers. What I think you also miss out is that Enlisted is fundamentally a very different game than those two, with very different gameplay and features, it's almost disingenuous for people to compare the three. Other points you mention about gameplay, matchmaking and balance are fundamentally wrong, and some of your analysis is off about it too. Sure, the game is definitely not perfect, and there are a large number of specific things you mention in the video that I agree need changing. If I was to list them all then this comment would be very long, I will give you that. That being said, I do think this review is a unfair on the game itself. You advocate for how bad the progression-monetization system this, then talk about how bad customization-monetization is too - you are saying all ways of monetizing the game are bad. By your thinking, the game would die tomorrow. Though, I'm not saying the current system is perfect by any means, don't get me wrong. Tl;dr - you mention many valid points I think everyone would agree with regarding progression, AI, and monetization and you also mention things that are common misconceptions about the game and aren't true, primarily with gameplay itself. Regardless of what I think though you've clearly put a lot of thought into this video and it was an interesting listen, definitely useful feedback for developers to see what players think, whether correct or incorrect, for the future. I think it would be very interesting to see you re-do your video after the progression and economy overhaul comes, though your other points not mentioning this likely wouldn't change yet until those are also addressed (and there's a great chance of that soon as well).

[@DWTerminator]

I don't care what Darkflow says they're doing. I care about what they're actually doing. Their community has been telling them for months and in some cases even years what is wrong with the game and what needs to change in order for it to succeed, and yet at nearly every conceivable opportunity Darkflow has either ignored or outright rejected this feedback while continually saying they're working on it. They have consistently shown a pattern of making shortsighted, increasingly greedy decisions and until they *prove* otherwise, I have to assume everything they say is utterly meaningless. This isn't War Thunder where there's not really any competition in the market and the devs can get away with whatever bullshit grind and monetization they want. Nobody wants to grind 100-ish hours through stuff they don't want just to unlock a damn StG-44. Nobody in their right mind will buy cosmetics that have to be repurchased over and over again on a per soldier, per set of maps basis, nor will they buy single squads or vehicles that are priced the same as entire games. This isn't something that can just be brushed off as "oh it's a F2P game they have to make money somehow" since even most other F2P games aren't anywhere near as greedy and don't have anywhere near the extreme levels of grind that Enlisted does, nor do they lock basic gameplay mechanics behind a grind or even pay wall. Darkflow and Gaijin are operating the game as if it's War Thunder and they have a captive audience with no real alternatives when there are plenty of FPSs out there to choose from, even if the player wants something close to what Enlisted has to offer... so we're well past the point of "careful consideration" on rethinking the monetization scheme. They need sweeping, drastic changes and a complete rework of their entire development philosophy if they want this game to not only survive, but thrive. As it stands, the only people willing to put up with it long-term are the ones who've been sticking with the game for years and are fully absorbed in their sunk costs. I'll still keep an eye on the game and if they do overhaul the systems as you say they're supposedly doing, then I might make a follow up, but I'm sure you'll understand my skepticism in the matter.

[@jakubgadzala7474]

@@DWTerminator Name other WW2 FPS from the pool of "plenty", please. Name a free one.

[@DWTerminator]

There are quite literally so many WWII FPSs out there that if I were to name them all, we'd be here all day. Since you want *specifically* *a* free one... Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. It's not only completely free, but you don't have to grind your ass off to unlock anything, it has quite a few mods available, and it still has a rather active community. I'm sure you'll shriek about how that "doesn't count" because it's "old" though. But if you want a multiplayer tactical WWII FPS, your main current options are Hell Let Loose and Squad '44, both of which go on sale pretty often for *far* less than you'd pay for even a single squad in Enlisted and don't make you grind for hours upon hours just to unlock basic gameplay features. They do have a pretty high learning curve though. There's also Easy Red 2, which is ridiculously cheap and, from everything I've seen, plays a lot like Enlisted without the obnoxious grind or excessive monetization.

[@jakubgadzala7474]

@@DWTerminator So 4 rival games is plenty? First game is dino age like me. Before UT became UE. Great! I'm sure I will try it again 21 years later. So 3 games actually. One is very expensive and very good, but losing the steam on steam. Second is a dead game under ICU with no global reach and I say it will die no matter what the devs do. So, lastly, you are telling me to play some potato game for free. Nice channel and hit piece discourse overall. Not sure what you are trying to achieve by over verbose responses. Oh, Enlisted is free for the world. Easy red 2 is cheap for banana kids like you. Steam charts dead. Nice. Thanks for your contribution channel DWself-terminator.

[@TovarishTony]

@@DWTerminator I would take his words with a grain of salt considering his position as a Gaijin employee as they are the ones paying for his paycheck so he follows what his superiors told him. Another youtuber already said this simple message "Enlisted is not War Thunder" over trying to use WT style monetization and other systems on Enlisted like the battle rating system from WT. There's been issues in the game either ignored for a long time or ignoring those who criticize the merge and he's one of the youtubers defending the merge to the point that he became an employee of Gaijin.

[@shadowcrawler3618]

This game is a gaijin product. expect these premium squad prices to go up to about 70 bucks like their title Warthunder. they will add more content for far more research and silver then give a premium squad for more money to offset this. they also dont increase your silver and research income with the increase in BR so you have an even worse time grinding the higher you go. its a gotcha game through and through

[@juniorvalentine8837]

They greatly improved the silver issue and the grind is much much better. I've actually stopped leveling up weapons, soldiers, vehicles, etc so that I can remain lvl2 and have a decent chance at winning a few matches.

[@MIG31foxhound74]

Ive been using br1 squads and weapons at br5 and having fun idk how i didnt realise till i watched this

[@ItsCrap97]

Realize what?

[@MIG31foxhound74]

@@ItsCrap97 realize that ive been using br 1 stuff in br4 and 5

[@jkjkrandom]

Yeah if you are at all good at the game using the free equipment is not a problem and most equipment can be used effectively above it's br

[@BlakeMoss-hm2ob]

This is objectively false..... The game wouldn't let you que into tier 5 with your tier one loadouts unless you touched a tier 4, vehicle? In that case you'd still have to do most of the tech tree up until tier 3. Why lie?

[@NoMoreCrumbs]

The easy answer is do not play any game that is live service or has a battlepass. Fortnite completely ruined multiplayer games and I absolutely loathe the fact that we cannot escape its influence

[@DWTerminator]

Hell, even singleplayer games suffer from live service B.S. these days. It just makes you want to go back to the 360/PS3 generation and earlier.

[@marksheen4873]

Ever since they moved away from campaigns I stopped playing. I hate the tier system and also bullshit I grinded so freaking hard for so long

[@saintjames1995]

I was happy to see them go away from campaigns because it was annoying to have to level up every team on every campaign but the way they combined them is just so bad

[@ConcernedPmGhost]

@@saintjames1995 or unlocking the Kar98 or MP40 for the 4th time in a row

[@saintjames1995]

@@ConcernedPmGhost God that shit was annoying if they wanted to keep the campaigns they should have had a universal xp bar for both factions in the campaign so when you're playing one, the other is leveling up as well

[@Dregomz02]

@@ConcernedPmGhost actually it was 5 times in a row

[@marksheen4873]

@@Dregomz02 still worth it grinding in the individual campaign, every map you play is in that campaign vs with that campaigns type of weapons against an enemy with that type of weapons. I get why they did it and I see yalls point, I just don’t like it.

[@chazsnubs6157]

Eh worst problem is grind and greed but games fun honestly.

[@ProdAlarick]

@@smallebige I quited about a year ago, glad to hear that silver grind was the reason I quit becouse I was just doing my daily quests for a week so I can upgrade my squad equp. and a few guns.

[@StalwartTirith]

I hate how the battles are artificially large with small player numbers but a bunch of bots that mostly just stand around grouped together as backup bodies for when the player dies. And then when the player dies they switch to the next soldier so quickly that they know exactly where the enemy who killed them is. The whole system is just a mess

[@RussianBlackLeague]

I've been playing the game for a while now and I HATE the bots they are so annoyingly terrible and they're basically all the kills your gonna get, in my opinion they should get rid of the ai squads and make bigger maps and adding more ppl to matches

[@DWTerminator]

Funny thing about that is they used to put fake player bots in the game, presumably to fill out matches in an attempt to hide how low the player counts actually were. I don't know if they still do that but if they have trouble filling matches with real players through a combination of total player numbers being low and the spread of players across the various BRs, then your suggestion would actually make the game considerably worse.

[@RatKingTerry]

on average 1 in 4 or 5 kills should be a player

[@DesertWolfpup]

They have a game mode for that, just no one plays it

[@ZealothPL]

Yeah, because that mode immediately devolved into "where's waldo" with everyone lying prone in a bush with a sniper rifle lol. You can go play Squad for that instead

[@beegdonkey5750]

Honestly, I love the concept of the ai squads just because I look at it with strategy. I try to take out all the ai in a squad before the actual human player just because that means he won’t have anybody left to quickly take control over. I hope they never change that aspect of it.

[@enovos3138]

The physics of infantry feels like ice skating. Also, being forced to use squads sucks

[@martinmollers8579]

Well. I have played Enlisted for around 100+ hours. Yes there is alot of things that should be worked on. AI is terrible. But... I still enjoy the game. I like the ideas that have been implomented in the Game. So 'Hanz get ze Panzerfaust'

[@chuck11duck64]

I miss the old Enlisted where I actually had a choice in the maps I play on

[@sneakyfishiix8014]

It could be launch Enlisted where it was literally a WW2 gatcha with loot boxes and instead of silver you had 3 currencies bronzes orders silver orders and gold orders and no tech tree it was a linear procession system. I'd say it far better the way it is.

[@karakterelanc9936]

Not as infuriating as watching you killing Xana, let me tell you that.

[@vassiliblucher2763]

I like how all the merge did was take away the ability to play a campaign you wanted to play

[@happyfeet7759]

I have started the game recently, and not to shill for gajiin, but i absolutely loved it. For me, as history fan, currently fascinated with eastern front, the concept of somewhat historically accurate combined arms game is just a thing I was looking for, and I'm having a blast with it. The grind is real, but for me, becomes really painfull only when you want to progress multiple factions at once. Gotta admit when I've reached full br 3 loadout on USSR, starting americans from scratch wasn't pleasant, but after adopting philosophy of not caring all that much about progress and just playing the game, considering the fact even first guns in game allow a good player to be deadly, made my enjoyment skyrocket. When it comes to ai being dumb as bricks i feel that a little bit of adjustement, like adding hit the ground command, making them seek cover and maybe increasing leash range a bit would be sufficient. Them being not that dangerous on their own imo is a blessing in disguise, since proper management and constantly switching soldiers to use their tools and different positions is extremely rewarding skill because of it. Monestisation is a thing that I gotta agree, is actually significanly broken. While i wouldn't call Enlisted pay to win, certain paid features, like squad slots are essentiall for enjoying it to the fullest. When it comes to premium squads, they aren't inherently stroneger than normal ones, just usually interesting for one reason or another, which i think is fine, but their prices, certaily are not. This is unplesant, but at least imo not close to ruining the expirience by a long shot. There are also few thing I can't wrap my head around, like who in the right mind would make hull mgs in tanks cosmetic only in the tank game, but those are relatively minor, all things considered. To sum up, as someone that has never played any of gajiin games, and has no loyalty for the studio whatsoever, so is juding Enlisted solely off of experience with it, despite its faults, I enjoy it very much. Mostly for relative fidelity to history (relative to battlefield V and alike) which is very big for my immersion, quite a bit of tactical thinking involved in good gameplay, and sheer fun from playing the game. I hope gaijin's greed will not kill Enlisted, which for me would be a great shame.

[@Dregomz02]

Grind was the easiest with Stalingrad full access pack. It gave you x4 XP for that campaign (x8 with premium) and also gave you a lot of slots which got refunded in gold and now I have 8 slots for every nation except jp since who cares about them. We also retained amazing pz3n with heat rounds, pz4g with new skin and added heat, two premiums and also we had massive -90% discount on weapon upgrades, super cheap pistols. And Assault engineers that we had to fight with devs to retain (slots too). Thompson/breda for soviets, and mp717(r) for axis. All for $30. Damn I wish this game would go back to being so pro consumer. Sadly they removed that x4 XP since screw you I guess we have merge now.

[@happyfeet7759]

@@Dregomz02 damn, that's insane considering how absurd is today's value for money. I only allowed myself for 2 slots for the Soviets, and wanted to buy myself for birthday soviet black sea marines or a Churchill tank but changed my mind after realising what the prices are. Maybe better times will return if Devs realise that targeting only a handful of whales is less profitable than making micro transactions affordable for players with more normal budgets.

[@jackofspaidz_]

quick note about communication: the only voice chat in game is only for your own squadmates, console players can't even see the team text chat except for the pre-configured quick chat options like "need rally point", and no one uses the team text chat on PC anyway. Very rarely do teammates mark targets despite marks allowing AI bots to pay attention to that direction and get kills (or a better chance at kills!) It's never mentioned anywhere ingame. -There is a flakpanzer in the game, but it was an event vehicle only, like so many other things that should have gone in the tech tree -The devs recently proposed an excess xp to silver conversion, but it was 1 silver per 100xp, so not great

[@uria3679]

As long as there are indie and double A developers who say things like “if you don’t buy our game, companies like EA will force us to sell out”, we will never be able to bring them down

[@Din.014]

You make some fair points in this video, but others are either misinformation (You don't buy the ability to buy weapons after researching) or just generally coming from the wrong place. ie. the asymmetrical gameplay, while it can be frustrating I think this is mainly a learning curve the player needs to get adjusted to. I have been playing exclusively Japan, so have had to deal with this quite a lot especially when it comes to the tanks. After reading your comments and honestly just by the way you speak throughout the video it is very clear that you just don't enjoy this game, which is fine, but I don't know why you are being so defensive in the comments about this? People have different view points and there's no need to attack them for that.

[@jack-2983]

I spent 3 months just to create playable deck of 4 squads with smgs, lmgs and self loading rifles... Never try this, it was hell...

[@StalwartTirith]

Part of me feels like this would have been better strictly as single player so they could focus on the AI and add even more advanced stuff without having to overly worry about player balance and that sort of thing.

[@TheKilroyman]

I'm glad you brought up the picture of the cat, because I saw it and thought it was ridiculous. XD basically trying to tug on our heart strings.

[@warhammerist4597]

If only Enlisted was a "just purchase once" type of game it would have been good.

[@samz8691]

Thats why I prefer Easy Red 2. Granted the post-launch content is DLC and its very low budget but there's no grinding.

[@kzh2313]

How is gaijin supposed to milk the player base then?!! /s

[@KA-vs7nl]

​@@kzh2313 well they lost a new whale like me by locking out game content forever. there are weapons I will never be able to buy or earn, I'm not playing

[@ZeSgtSchultz]

I was so excited about this coming to console, i had played some of the weirdo pubg type game before it. But the grind for this makes warthunder feel alot more achievable.

[@aegis408]

Purchasing the ability to purchase a gun is probably the stupidest game concept I have ever heard, and it goes further because you have to purchase the gun for each squad, that shit doesn’t carry over🙄 That’s what made me quit the game because it felt like all the progress I was making was pointless

[@ImThatGuyGoddi]

I make the bots stay in a random room, they just get in your way

[@mitchellmcguire1121]

It can be a bit convoluted honestly but it’s still the funnest MP game I’m playing at the moment. Compared to all the royale games and what CoD and Battlefield have turned into. This game is a nice little oasis of an older style shooter in a desert of clones We used to have Heroes & Generals but it’s gone now and so here a lot of us are playing enlisted. It has that 2007-2012 online shooter feel. I’ve never had a negative experience interacting or being social with the community. For all its faults I gotta stick with this game over the others lol

[@legiox3719]

Enlisted just posted their update for the game economy and they did a very good job. I highly suggest you take a 2nd look

[@rahjah6958]

i dont play anymore but the arty squad with a machine gunner and anti tankman was so op it was kinda unbelievable, absolutely plastering the land with shells, swich to tank if dead and keep going lol. so many op line of sights

[@maviardiv1749]

The best way to build soldiers regadless of class is the increased medkit usage (as that applies also applies to picking yourself up when downed), increased amount healed by medkits, and vertical recoil reduction. Im normally on the top of multiple tier 2-5 scoreboards just rocking maxed out tier 1 soldiers.

[@jkjkrandom]

I will say I entirely disagree with your perk choices but that is on of the things I like about this game, there are many perk builds that work well to compliment different play styles

[@Tilpur]

23:48 the first vehicle you get is a mobile AA but im pretty sure its the only AA vehicle IN THE GAME which sucks for higher BRs cause planes will just shrug off all damage from your tier one piece of garbadge "AA"

[@DWTerminator]

Not sure what you mean there since the first vehicle you get is a light tank.

[@Tilpur]

@@DWTerminator they changed it im pretty sure

[@DWTerminator]

I didn't see any AA vehicles available in the game at all. They don't seem to have outright removed any content so you might be confusing War Thunder with Enlisted.

[@Maverick-gg2do]

@DWTerminator The Americans and the Japanese get AA vehicles as their starter vehicles (m13 gmc and Ta-Se) The Germans and Soviets have AA vehicles, but they're event squads with limited access (Flakpanzer and Gaz MM(72k)) Its stupid that they placed these behind a barrier, but enlisted seems pretty fine with doing this (like how free paratroopers are confined to event squads and premium squads) The Germans and Soviets really need tech tree SPAA

[@Tilpur]

@@DWTerminator i used it on the americans click the first tank and itll show the mgmc thingy

[@barccy]

Just buying Easy Red 2 or Red Orchestra (with its Darkest Hour and Mare Nostrum mods) are worth the minimal investment if you have a little money.

[@DWTerminator]

Worth clarifying that Darkest Hour and Mare Nostrum are both mods of Red Orchestra 1.

[@decariusb71]

No game is perfect. I enjoy this game quite a bit more than Call of Duty. It’s fun. You play to have fun. You can buy all the premium squads you want, but I can still make life miserable for those premiums squads with a simple bolt action rifle. I love it.

[@duckfliper696]

One thing I hate about playing axis is that my ping is bad, they don't have any Asian server, and the ussr just spray their smg, I don't even see them until I'm dead, very unfair.

[@vanja2565]

11:51 this game has player base fluctuations, at certain times certain factions will be overpopulated while others will be underpopulated. For example, through the entirety of the last year, Berlin USSR faction barely had any players, and you'd win 2 out of 200 games on average.

[@kzh2313]

The silver gain and the economy in this game is so dog shit that it makes war thunder economy actually look good. I'm not playing this game again until they fix that otherwise I'm sticking to battlefield and hell let loose

[@Kiwi9552]

Honestly: Imo the gameplay is really fun. The complaints about vehicles you have I am not sharing and that you have to crew the tank in first person is actually a benefit in my opinion. If you want a more 3rd person like view you can let your commander look out the top of the tank, but he can be shot then. This can be very much a worthwhile trade off. But in general that means while you're very powerful as a tank you need to be worried around your surroundings a lot. The squad ai could get more improvements, they are indeed quite useless most of the time, but they did get some tiny ones lately, that made them a tiny bit less terrible. The guns feel fun to me and due to the squad system you can get a lot of kills which feels good. The negatives I mostly agree with however. The monetization is absolutely horrible and it's extremely annoying when they lock mechanics behind a paywall, like paratroopers or spawn trucks with cannons. The grind is also pretty aweful on some battleratings. I think BR 1 and 2 are mostly fine. For BR 3 and 4 things cost way to much silver imo tho. I nearly researched everything in the german tech tree, yet I still haven't finished equipping every soldier in my 4 squads I run with BR3 weaponry after testing all the BR3 eqiupment by getting it once and fully upgrading it. For BR5 I think this speed would be ok, as it would be the end of what you can get and after that there's nothing more, but for BR 3 and 4 I find it way, way to grindy. One correction I do have to make however is that you do get 1 weapon when spending silver to unlock something in the tree after researching it. For squads one soldier has that weapon and otherwise you just get one of those weapons.

[@brickproduction1815]

Wow I just finished Quantum Break review and now, a new upload!

[@jasonrusso9808]

"Naval combat" like taking off from the carrier? There certainly is not warship against opposition.

[@DWTerminator]

You sound confused. When I mentioned naval combat, it was in a section where I was talking about War Thunder and why people put up with the crap that War Thunder pulls. Enlisted doesn't have naval combat.

[@CasualGamingXD]

I mean it's Gaijin we are talking abt in war thunder 1 GJN, 1, IT'S 1 ENTIRE DOLLAR AND THERE ARE TANKS THAT COST THOUSANDS OF THIS GOD FORSAKEN GJN!!! I have a free to play experience and it's painful but i can't seem to stop playing Gaijin games. I already sold my soul to the snail!

[@KatzProductionsYT]

22:33 bro literally the whole screen is covered 😂

[@jasonlin9805]

Honestly, only issues i can see rn is P2P and balancing, if i equip one br3 weapon, every other match is br5

[@TheKilroyman]

I'm going to be upfront with you DWT, I've been playing since the start of the Beta, so I've accumulated a lot of the free event stuff, so I've bypassed a LOT of the grind already, and anything else I want now is merely bonus content for me. I've made it to top tier in all but Japan. In fact I have so many different free squads and such that the issue I have at the moment is simply choosing who to take into battle. I did end up taking a hiatus some years back due to technical issues, but I jumped back in after those were resolved, and while I did miss out on a bit of free stuff, I've still managed to rack up a decent arsenal, including the event Soviet Paratroopers. The event Paratroopers ( which you can't get anymore) are honestly better than the premium ones, because the premium ones are mostly if not all Tier 5, and you cannot change their primary weapons, meaning they are locked to tier 5. The event Paratroopers come with regular tier 5 guns that are fully upgraded, but you can change them to lower tier weapons if you want to play at lower tiers, and this goes for the equipment crate that drop with you.

[@DWTerminator]

So what you're saying their business model is somehow even worse than what I described in the video. "You can only get this thing during this limited time event. If you missed the event, we offer a similar but worse thing for an exorbitant price."

[@TheKilroyman]

@@DWTerminator yes unfortunately. If you miss certain things in an event, you miss out. It's very unlikely that any of the event stuff will be given out again with maybe a few exceptions.

[@Ezi_pz]

a small detail, because they "changed" the matchmaking tier 3 can be down tier or uptier, the same with tier 4, where more players from tier 3 can play than from tier 4 or 5, if the players' weapons can affect a game but they are not a decisive factor, that is the tanks and partly the planes, because a tier 3 tank is almost indestructible for someone inferior and the same for tier 4/5 tanks, since some time i got a down tier games like axis and a tiger 2 make a lot of difference

[@ninochaosdrache3189]

God, I was baffled with how much monetization there is and you just kept going and going

[@AS-qe5zj]

The only problem here is the ai, i suggest making it more adaptive to their surroundings, and make use of what's the nearest cover, and they should also shoot who is the nearest to them and who they can see with lesser damage than the gun damage of the actual player. I think this will make the gameplay more accurate and enjoyable (since you always lose your whole squad by a single player in mg because your ai soldiers just run in the open)

[@pimplexi4271]

I enjoyed the game the first couple hours. Deleted it enjoyed it for a couple hours a year later. Haven't redownloaded it since.

[@jordinicardone3142]

The Axis is to built. To many people play only as axis so out of 10 games 8 of them are against a stacked team. Last game I played dude had a tank shooting through walls. I have to play as German to have fun

[@joaogomes9405]

Small correction, you're not purchasing the ability to purchase the thing you want, you're purchasing your first copy of the thing you want. If you were purchasing the ability to purchase the thing, you'd spend 500 silver to unlock the ability to purchase and another 500 to buy it once. Same with vehicles, you'd spend let's say 2.5k silver to be able to spend another 2.5k to buy the vehicle, for a 5k total cost. Which isn't how it works, you just spend 2.5k and get the vehicle and that's it. You spend 500 and you get a copy of the gun you want. If the equipment unlocks a squad, then only one soldier in the squad gets the copy of the equipment you've bought. Your misconception seems to be due to how some squads come pre-equipped with the gun that you researched to unlock them, like the axis engineers all come with the carcano. Except you actually unlock 2 carcanos and only the actual engineer unit of the squad gets the m41 variant, while the other riflemen get the weaker m41 (d). Not the same weapon

[@DWTerminator]

I outright show and describe how it works in the video, even showing how it doesn't let you just purchase the new items without paying the unlock fee first. Also corrected myself on the "you get 1 of the item when you buy the ability to buy it" bit in text on screen so I'm guessing you didn't notice that.

[@Din.014]

@@DWTerminator So you don't 'buy the ability to buy' you just purchase one of the weapon... Not sure why you're getting so defensive about this. If you don't like having to buy each weapon individually then that's fair enough, but what you're saying is just misinformation

[@DWTerminator]

You cannot simply buy the weapon after completing the research. The game will not let you buy the weapons for your squad through the shop or equipment interface until you have first "purchased the research," as the game puts it. Thus, you have to buy the ability to buy the weapon. I'm quite tired of repeating myself on this just because you and other Enlisted fans refuse to pay attention.

[@joaogomes9405]

@@DWTerminator first of all, you're way too defensive, chill. I'm not an enlisted fan, I have simply played enlisted enough to understand how the research system works. Second of all, don't accuse others of not paying attention when you're incapable of a) reading my comment properly, and b) understanding how the system works. Maybe you'd be less tired of repeating yourself if you weren't wrong.

[@dooperdaa7676]

Dunno if you mention it later, but at the part about how you have to purchase cosmetics per-map. It actuallu used to be worse. Each map used to have its own progression tree, weapons, soldiers and squads. If you played Normandy a lot and spent all your silver on weapons (which used to only be available through loot boxes) and decided to go to Berlin, you would have to start over from the literal beginning. And it wasn't like progression was fast either. And yeah you used to get weapon cards. They'd be split up between rifles, smgs, explosives etc. You would have to use those to roll on a lootbox to get a weapon. Just unlocked the Garand? Too bad, you got a Springfield. Want an AT weapon for your AT squad? You just got dynamite.

[@nekokoishi]

Pretty new to the game and been playing it a lot recently. Game itself is quite fun but I totally agree that this game has SO MANY issues.

[@Theultra4sshole]

"You still play game? Game good. You bad. Buy premium content." --Gaijin

[@KA-vs7nl]

there are weapons I will never be able to get. I'm not touching this game with a 10 foot pole, the industry needs to go back to keeping all game content available to new players

[@nelsonsham2368]

Dropping the game is the best decision I did... the thing is, if you play the game like a second job, play other game... Enlisted shitty MOFO and the Grind is horrible, if that doesn't kills your fun, the balance is ass too

[@Hypersend]

The way most people use squads is as extra respawns. It would be nice if they worked differently to where they actually try to do specific stuff depending on their class. Like if I place a machine gunner on a wall or window they should mount it or if a medic is near a wounded ally they heal them or me. If they are at gunners they will target marked tanks. I would rather engineers stay the same tho, I dont want them placing barbed wire in a door way I wanna use lol.

[@dirk2058]

i just discovered this game on steam and i am enjoying it... and the at that engineers can build, you can be moved it around...but dont expect to win any prizes, its slow.... but all in all, its a fun game

[@tino897]

@@dirk2058 same here. I knew about the game as a “ general “ opponent to hell let loose from a long time but just got to play it for a week now. I like it it reminds me of Heroes and Generals. Sadly it does also remind me of HG in terms of grind too.

[@dirk2058]

@@tino897 HAHHAHA yea same, heroes and generals, playing germany now again.....,and the grind yea but iim stil having fun....especially with the lv 2 tanks..., they did the tank combat so well

[@whiskeyfalcons]

Good video but a few statements I would like to make. As someone who just started playing and has about 40 hours in the game, you are making this sound a lot worse than it is... I have not spent a dime on the game and have almost fully cleared through BR2 research for US(yes I know you can do the other 3 nations but why bother if I just want to play US?). The progression is slow but its not near as bad as youre making it out to be. The biggest complaints I have with the game is the AI accuracy when enemies are in front of them, cheaters, and the bots that are in almost every game you play (bots are added when teammates leave but they are just as bad as your squad AI so they are more of detriment than help). You can add 5-9 soldiers per squad but in reality you get no benefit for doing so, as Ive found having 3-4 per squad is actually better (you start with 3). The game is unique with the squad system but it needs a ton of work and maybe Gaijin needs to step in and add some of the Warthunder abilities to the game to help it out.

[@DWTerminator]

"40 hours"..."have almost fully cleared through BR2 research for US" - So you're playing one of the game's "favored" factions *and* you're in sunk cost territory. Just remember: the grind only gets worse the further you get into the progression and once you get into BR3 you're getting thrown into matches with BR4/5 players that have considerably better gear than you.

[@whiskeyfalcons]

@@DWTerminator I understand how Gajin games work. Had almost 900 hours in Warthunder as F2P before buying some Premium account for top tier. Spent 20$ and then never did again. In Warthunder i only play BR 1-3 even though Ive maxed almost every tree...

[@DWTerminator]

So really you just got used to their utter BS in War Thunder. If that's your frame of reference then Enlisted being more of the same kind of BS isn't going to push you away. For anyone who *hasn't* become numb to War Thunder's grind and excessive monetization, Enlisted's grind and monetization is downright insane.

[@whiskeyfalcons]

@@DWTerminator I dont think you understand how the War Thunder community works. That game is run by the players... Anytime Gaijin did anything the players didnt like, the players essentially review bombed it to the ground and even did boycotts for weeks. To me it seems the newer generation of gamers seem to just want beat a game in 10 hours and call it a day. When I play either of these games, I dont play wanting to get to the end of the research tree so I can "get all the research". I play the game for the game mechanics. And like I said in my first comment the only negatives about the mechanics here is the AI being bad and the cheaters. Other than that I have around 70% win rates on both US and Germany in this game and have been having a blast. At the end of the day its a video game and not life. Either spend the money to get through the game quicker or just enjoy the free simple shooter thats been scratching the battlefield itch for me. PS. Delta Force Hawk Ops will be the replacement game for this game when it comes out and you should look into that one

[@Ripper935]

@@whiskeyfalcons DF Hawk Ops will share the same fate as World War 3 ...

[@hdr_gamer7727]

The point with enlisted is they are trying to make the game as realistic as possible while trying to balance it up. This is why japan can't have nice things, in warthunder they have some american tanks to make the game balanced because japan don't have a lot of good late ww2 tanks. My suggestion is to make every country unique. Yeah the soviet has a good smg, but let's make the german have a good lmg, while the american have a strong semi automatic rifle and mobile lmg (the bar). Just like the ww2 tank in warthunder, the german have good firepower while the soviets are the armour, and the americans have a stabilizer and 50 cal machinegun ontop. They do need to rework the ai tho

[@Robert53area]

I played this game for all of a week, i found it insanely easy to get kills because the AI is so bad. But then you carry so little ammo you have to rely on team work to get anything but like all gaijin games nobody does team work. Id rather just play hell let loose. Far better game.

[@Dregomz02]

I never run out of ammo since i have ammo bags and engineers.

[@ZealothPL]

Stop camling so much

[@Mike-ll7ip]

It's not a bad game, the maps are too small for all what is going on during a battle. Custom games are good if you don't like playing the main game. Maybe bring back the choice of playing the campaign of your liking I would like to see that happen. Btw I am a veteran of this game 😎

[@Hypersend]

So glad they changed the economy and research, so much easier as a f2p now

[@Hypersend]

43:16 just no man, the battlepass gives you free appearance order changes unless your talking about getting specific cosmetics that are meant for a premium squad you can easily get cosmetics for free.

[@nf1370]

Bot for sure throw grenades and use special equipment

[@dxhunter9170]

"War thunder is doing fairly well" War thunder is in fact doing fantastically well lmao (as a game), the playerbase is booming

[@DWTerminator]

Not really surprising, given how many KZbinrs have War Thunder promos in their videos. They wouldn't have the money to throw around to do that if the game weren't financially successful. Unfortunately that's entirely due to really exploitative business practices, though.

[@sneakyfishiix8014]

My grind isn't that bad but i'm an above average player so I make 1k-3k per match my win percentage is 71% total and 61% of that is U.S/Britain.

[@analien4813]

I stopped playing since the merge, which I maintain was an utter mistake.

[@DWTerminator]

From what I've seen, they didn't really have much of a choice on the merge due to not really having the player base to sustain the separate campaigns.

[@analien4813]

@@DWTerminator No more than other games existing divides the playerbase.

[@TovarishTony]

Same to me with the way they ignored those who loved the old campaigns with the lack of alternatives felt like a betrayal especially when invested on that.

[@analien4813]

@@smallebige Separation of individual campaign identities? Removal of Italian and British forces? Basically unable to visit the old maps again if you used certain weapons? It wasn't perfect, by no means, but better than what we have now.

[@analien4813]

@@smallebige If you are an old player you can get the old British and Italian Squads if you didn't delete them, if you are new however...

[@PuffAdder8565]

the game has been patched and the silver grind isn't so bad

[@DWTerminator]

See the pinned comment.

[@bbqfire6199]

nah its still shit

[@GatorMilk]

I actually thoroughly enjoyed the game like 3 years ago. Used to play the Battle Royale soinoff for like 5 years

[@conor1940]

I would be more inclined to play this game if everyone was a player and there was no dumb ai bullet sponges