ENOUGH With The Remakes

[@allthingsclassicrock]

I love how these remakes are called “live-action” when they’re like 95 percent CGI. So basically, “let’s remake an animated classic with a worse animated film.”

[@WhatsMikeUpTo]

Truth

[@ominous-omnipresent-they]

The inclusion of CGI doesn't imply that it's not live-action.

[@rhysbennett1767]

@@ominous-omnipresent-they it doesn't but when the characters, setting, backgrounds and effects are all cgi that's just a 3d animated movie

[@AmericanZergling]

@@ominous-omnipresent-they I have met so many people who call the Lion King remake 'live action.' there is nothing live action in that film.

[@tjustice7123]

It’s a shame because they could have done some really nice stuff with a ‘less is more’ mindset. For example, I think it would have been a lot more in keeping with the spirit of the genie in Alladin if they made him the only animated character - something like they did with ‘Who Framed Rodger Rabbit’

[@au77iemark]

The Princess and the frog was primarily hand drawn, showed the value of hard work and the black character wasn’t artificially wedged in at all. Disney needs to remember how to make movies like that.

[@houseofsacrifice]

I agree, it was a movie with genuine soul in it- I wish when Disney cared about their product instead of "Ehhh fuck it, throw in a black person and call it a day, who gives a shit we'll get money-"

[@Mii..]

They've never made a princess tiana live action...........But I agree to some extent. I don't know about some people but I really don't think the problem is that she's black.

[@eurodoc6343]

The music was pretty awesome too. They used jazz (not to mention gospel and zydeco) more effectively than a Pixar film that was supposedly about jazz.

[@HDGaminTutorials]

Well the first Disney princess black people get is turned into a frog for the majority of the movie you dont even remember shes black through most of it.

[@sharonsparkles7176]

Princess and the Frog has one of the best messages imo. I miss when conflict was based on classism rather than racism or sexism. Classism is more of a problem nowadays than any other social problem, but I guess big media wants to point fingers elsewhere since they’re some of the ones that cause it.

[@Jack10016]

I loved the part where Ariel said ‘Go away now’. Truly inspiring.

[@suzeni5535]

😂😂😂

[@MisteRRYouTuby]

I love the part where Ariel downed a bottle of Jack Daniel’s with aviators on. UNDER THE SEA, NO LESS!!! A masterpiece of the modern era!

[@voltaire9176]

@whaaa t go.to.hell

[@lukepoe1140]

That movie wouldn't be getting anywhere near as much hate had they just casted a white redhead to play Ariel. There are hundreds of Danish women or even Irish women that would have been perfect for the role.

[@catelynh1020]

I think the actual quote was, "leave now, and never come back". I remember because her voice was so iconic when she said "hobitses" after.

[@Lotsielots]

Us 90s kids were so lucky to experience the Walt Disney renaissance. It was amazing and magical and can never be bettered. We have experienced the best.

[@josephatkinson1132]

Very true

[@sergiogonzalesYT]

True words!

[@jeffk464]

absolutely

[@jeffk464]

Frosk was so clueless you almost have to like her. I love that she absolutely torpedoed her own wokeness. She's like my anti-hero, the poster child for go woke go broke.

[@erainmartinez8175]

I'm sick of remakes

[@raahensinha1418]

Disney trying to find a soul is like Rey trying to find a personality

[@scottslotterbeck3796]

LOL

[@blackfox1320]

Or Raya finding a personality

[@TheScarletSlayer]

You ever heard the cut song "biggering"? If not go listen to it and tell me it doesn't fit the industry to a T.

[@NormanReaddis]

Mcu started the same. They tried their best to adopt the comics shot for shot, now we got a twerking she hulk. Fan baiting is a hell of a drug.

[@TheScarletSlayer]

@@NormanReaddis you know what else is a hell of a drug.....meth.....I'm just assuming people do it in Hollywood alot if they actually look at this and gave it the green light.

[@Arasaka]

"Amazon using Tolkein's legacy as a billion dollar canvas to fingerpaint on." Brutal and accurate.

[@nelisezpasce]

Kid named Paint

[@mak3m3u9]

This makes me want to cry

[@CorePathway]

I would have said they bought it to hate-fuck it, but maybe that’s a tad harsh.

[@Vario69]

@@nelisezpasce Kid named finger *BREAKING BAD EARRAPE THEME*

[@seriatim2205]

The problem with remakes nowadays is that they're remaking GOOD movies instead of remaking something mediocre and making it an amazing product. Why would I watch a remake of an amazing movie if I can just watch the original?

[@goshkakoshka2902]

That's the point: soon, you won't be able to watch the originals. Kids today probably don't even know the originals existed. To them Mulan will always be about a mary-sue who fights an evil-not-so-evil witch for the sake of "honour"; Belle will always be Elon Musk in a skirt; and Arielle will always be black.

[@professorbaxtercarelessdre1075]

i just don't think they want to make the effort, as the drinker said its all about a quick buck. i also don't like alot of kids now don't want to watch older, less polished stuff, for example my nephew won't watch the original beauty and the beast but will watch Moana over and over again

[@mollywalker5790]

Exactly! I'd much rather see something like Atlantis or Black Cauldron remade changing the things that originally weren't all that great.

[@goshkakoshka2902]

@@professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 to be fair, Moana is actually pretty cool. The B&B remake was crap, and I don't care what anyone says.

[@NoraTheCreator117]

@@goshkakoshka2902 well, piracy is still a thing, so the originals will still be accessible for those who know how download stuff illegally

[@nikkimouseclubhouse]

Another thing that pissed me off about the Mulan 2019 remake (along with so many other things) was the fact that the writers omitted Mulan's cutting of her own hair in preparation for going in the army. THAT is literally the most PIVOTAL action in the whole animated film. It showed sacrifice, courage, and bravery to face the unknown and the terrors of war in place of her father. Seriously, why get rid of that?? Its so important.

[@rachelurquhart6686]

I think as much as these movies preach about female empowerment ultimately all they care about is the $$$ and they weren't willing to sacrifice the quick buck they can make by having a "sexy looking" female lead

[@thorin1045]

but if you are stunning, brave and courageous just because you exist, than actions cannot do that same thing. sacrifice is only done by others, not the me me and me group.

[@nikkimouseclubhouse]

@@thorin1045 that must have been the mentality behind the movie for sure... 😒 Makes the animated one elite!

[@quinnt3711]

They removed the hair cutting part because during the time period that Mulan would've been alive men and women had long hair, so there was no need to cut it. That said, the impact of her parents finding her gone and being worried shouldn't have been changed to be so lackluster but it was :/

[@rachelurquhart6686]

@@quinnt3711 doesn't change the fact that they wanted a conventionally attractive female lead to bring in the money

[@SoniasWay]

Pop culture wise, growing up in the 90s was indeed a gift

[@HAYAOLEONE]

No.

[@Vario69]

Musically too. Today's hits are either sterile, or obnoxious

[@aldunlop4622]

The 80s were pretty fucking awesome too. Nobody had any money, but people weren’t fake, music was unique and original, comedies didn’t inspire a bunch of triggered feminists, and movies had original ideas and great actors. Sigh…

[@mariokobida106]

and yet at that time, being impatient to become adult felt right... now one can not reverse...

[@shlooky]

Growing up in the 70'S, 80'S and 90'S were awesome too!

[@duddyfacial3827]

I’m 22 years old, and I never thought I’d turn into a grumpy old man hating most modern films, but here I am. Edit: If I have to hear one more 17 year old or younger comment some stupid shit like, “I’m X years old and I feel the same way.” I’m gonna lose my mind.

[@davidcoombsbestmegadethalb9780]

SAME HERE BUT IM 37 GRWEW UP IN THE 90S THERE WAS MORE CHOICE IN FILMS ORIGINAL IDEAS TOO NOW ITS ENDLESS REMAKES SUPER HERO MOVIES SAME OLD CRAP SEEN MILLION TIMES BEFORE BOND FILMS TOO I USED TO LOVE JAMES BOND. FAST AND FURIOUS 100

[@HunGerMovies]

@@davidcoombsbestmegadethalb9780 okay, but don't make us 30ish people look that boomer by shouting in your comment pls

[@davidcoombsbestmegadethalb9780]

@@HunGerMovies 0K

[@thehungarianaryan340]

ill second that 👌🏻

[@justaneditygangstar]

Lmao same and I’m 21 I’ve been an old man at like age 15 lmao

[@ecojosh1]

Twenty years ago, people made fun of Disney for making direct-to-video sequels like "Return of Jafar" and "The Little Mermaid 2". If we only knew how bad things would get.

[@Tabascofanatikerin]

To be honest, they were bad, too and still are. Won't stop Disney, though, to remake them, too, once they actually run out of all their "big" movies to remake.

[@definitelynotapervert5602]

The thing is, there were still a number of good ones here and there, and they still felt a lot more creatively inspired and had a lot more heart than whatever the hell is going on with these remakes.

[@Veilfire]

Those sequels were masterpieces compared to the crap we're getting now.

[@Tabascofanatikerin]

@@Veilfire That's true. Even though I said there are really bad sequels, some were solid to kinda good which had some more effort put in. Those were, in my mind, Lion King 2, Cinderella 3 and Rescuers Down Under. The differences between sequels in quality and effort sometimes really sting out.

[@scottski02]

To think I now long for the days when Hunchback 2 was the worst movie Disney ever made

[@allif445]

This is literally putting into my words EXACTLY how I feel about disney, today. Poor Walt would roll over if he saw the massive downfall his empire is goin through.

[@sergiowinter5383]

The way of all empires: great ruler dies, terrible heir destroy it

[@elagabalusrex390]

Empires crumble - there are no exceptions.

[@Moonwatcher2]

@@elagabalusrex390 just like the Mongolia empire and the Roman empire once an unstoppable force loses that powerful leader it all goes downhill.

[@elagabalusrex390]

@@Moonwatcher2 Oversimplified, but true essentially.

[@furretthefuzzynoodle3896]

@@Moonwatcher2ok for Rome name that “one powerful ruler”

[@jimluebke3869]

"Would it kill these studios to release a traditionally-animated film for once?" Depends if they fired that team.

[@keegantripp1245]

Hence why Manga and Anime have taken over the market. Not only is Japan not beholden to the grasp of woke political bs, but the fact is that after WW2 they became as capitalistic as hell. Finding ways to make the most profit without damaging their brands or names, which is a big thing for Japanese people as a whole. Just being associated with a box office flop in Japan could mean the banishment of that film creator or writer from professional work and destroy their careers unless they themselves had worked hard to the point that such a thing would not harm them aside from a simple statement about how it was the worst thing they as a professional writer or creator worked on. So as the 21st century rolled around now a days you don't see American made 2D animated films or shows that are made in different styles. And any that are made are normally made with what some have thought as templates from other works simply because they're easy to make. Whereas with Japan they've largely expanded both their audiences and talents in animation, with each anime while 2D generated, still has a largely distinct look for each anime with only using something like Pixar 3D animation in a very sparing way that has yet to really hit the fluid motion like normal 2D animation. From what I've seen such animation only is used for say monsters or certain characters during specific moments or items. Overall, this still just boils down as to how Western animation has taken a massive dive into going woke, and many people not wanting such things going to other sources for entertainment, and if that means watching Anime and reading Manga over Comics and whatever is considered American animation, then I'd say that ratio is 8 to 2 in favor of Japan.

[@legiongamer-works-podcaster]

90s "Would it kill these studios to release a traditionally-animated film for once?" Disney hold my….. drink

[@RavenclawFtW3295]

They haven't released a 2D film for 13 years, now. So, I have serious doubts.

[@tiahnarodriguez3809]

@@RavenclawFtW3295 Apparently, Disney plans to go back to releasing 2D films, but I don’t know how true this rumor is because their upcoming films for the next 3 years are mostly live action. They’re even making a live-action “Snow White” and “Lilo and Stitch” movie, as well as, expanding on movies they already have like the”Lion King” and “Peter Pan”, so we’ll be waiting a while for 2D to come back if it ever does.

[@jo-d2123]

I know, they talk about inclusion and engage in nonsensical race swapping left and right but you don’t see them going to Africa and exploring the rich history and folklore that they could use to make an animated movie. They have plenty of source material to use but they are just satisfied taking the easy way out and lash out when someone points it out

[@michaelterpea6283]

I am so happy to hear someone say out loud that they miss cell animation. There truely was something special about it. Bring it back!

[@jcdesantis69]

I could not agree more. why does EVERYTHING have to be CGI. it is seriously overused

[@majorpwner241]

@@jcdesantis69 It's cheap and people have been grabbing that garbage up for years now. Why bother with something more expensive and time/labor intensive?

[@Pyrolonn]

Treasure Planet killed 2d cell animation. I don't think it is coming back.

[@ugdayiskfay3718]

Absolutely... I have never liked CGI...

[@SquirtleHK]

And I'm an artist who'd be great at making cell animation! It's not a lost art, let's make cell animated movies again!🎨🖌

[@SprSynJn]

"...Amazon are trying to launch their very own Game of Thrones using Tolkien's legacy as a billion dollar canvas to finger paint on and it all just feels so hollow and meaningless..." The ability to so eloquently put into words what many are thinking is a gift you have Drinker. Well said.

[@Fifth313ment]

This man has a way with words! He should apply to be a Biden speech writer, Biden might actually start to look good, lol

[@Sejikan]

The Irish tend to be like that

[@animeangel1983]

@@Sejikan He's an irritable Scotsman but I assume you were being sarcastic.

[@emixmim]

Aye, well said! He has a gift, no doubt.

[@BubbaFranks-TheSwordDragon]

They already did, and past that first episode it is a good series. How did you afford to buy that white horse of yours? Have you even stood next to a male Percheron? They are an animal that the likes of you should not be anywhere near. They are extremely dangerous creatures. Sit back down silly child and stop being a toxic troll. Build a little birdhouse in your soul instead.

[@TheDaniela3112]

I think it was quite cruel of Disney to cast a black actress as Ariel because anyone could predict the backlash that would ensue and Halle is young and just starting out her career that controversy could be harmful for her. Strange, things happen when you mess with people’s sense of nostalgia and familiarity

[@sarahhumphreys3980]

Agree. I grew up in the 90's and Ariel will always be a white redhead.

[@fishingthelist4017]

How much of that controversy was self generated to generate some cheap publicity?

[@xminusone1]

@Fishing The List it's a shield against criticism. Anyone who will criticise the movie will be labeled as racist.

[@mudkipfan2420]

It’s called woke and double standard, insert as much lgbtq race feminism reference as much as possible Imagine if they cast white female as lead in pocahontas or aladdin live action, or ariel turns out to be lgbt and fall in love with princess instead

[@michaelholly4866]

Good point! They should remake The Princess and the Frog with her instead. If they remade that movie with a white Tiana, I would be mad!

[@JoeyArmstrong2800]

"Selling you back your childhood at an inflated price" - well said Mr. Drinker.

[@Goldschlager]

Marinated in today's perverse ideology.

[@CorePathway]

Drinker oughta try his had at writing

[@emertonfrost3292]

Grown men talking as if it's really affecting them is funny and cringe.

[@TheOneManWhoBeatYou]

@@CorePathway I hope your being sarcastic...

[@CorePathway]

@@TheOneManWhoBeatYou No, he’s really talented. He should give it a go. . . And yes, I know he’s a writer 🤣🤷🏼‍♂️

[@AlyssaBotelho]

“I’m not talking about the melanin levels in her skin…Disney baited the fans with that one, because they knew they could use the result and backlash to silence any actual criticism.” *Rings of Power has entered the chat*

[@ruslanmamedaliyev3912]

Did anyone really like black elves and dwarves?

[@redactedgamersgd1788]

​@@ruslanmamedaliyev3912 i rather have it if the settings is around factory or titanics 3rd class areas than for the sake of it without good context

[@evanellis9178]

@@ruslanmamedaliyev3912 only people who aren’t offended by a black person being in a tv show

[@ruslanmamedaliyev3912]

@@evanellis9178 i liked seeing will smith om a detective role in the movie i robot Because ot was like that from the beginning and it was fitting for the setting of movie But i dont like seeing black elves in lotr because it changes the original canon of the universe and just for the sake of sjw bullshit

[@socks2441]

@@ruslanmamedaliyev3912 yeah, irobot was a great movie. a bit too realistic for my liking though, nobody had petrol cars, all cars were self driving, will smith was the only one that kept a classic petrol motorcycyle. i do not want to live in an era like that. im a petrol head.

[@silvernova354]

The 80's were a great time to grow up, and the 90's were pretty good too. What we have now, is an industry completely bereft of imagination and new ideas.

[@chasehedges6775]

Soooo true. The age fun has ended

[@kosmosfan01]

It's unfortunate. As was pointed out, these remakes look so lifeless with their color palettes compared to the originals where people put their blood, sweat, and tears into a single frame.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@kosmosfan01 💯💯💯. The originals were works of art. The remakes are a business project

[@kosmosfan01]

@@chasehedges6775 Yup. I remembered that I owned so many of those original VHS tapes with that thick plastic packaging.

[@thegunslinger1363]

Depends on where you're from. Where I live, the 80s and early to mid 90s wasn't a good time to be around.

[@Shannon_Moore]

My daughter's little friend, whom happens to be black-and I'm only mentioning that because it's relevant, saw The Little Mermaid remake and said "why did they change Ariel and her pretty hair?" .. they noticed the hair, not the skin.. and no female empowerment or race discussion just "what happened to Ariel, why did they change her?" Exactly.. the groups they're trying to Pander to don't even like it

[@metalbutterflygaming1544]

that's a very smart little girl that your daughter is friends with, she knows what's up and can see the big problems with these crap arse remakes that us old schoolers can clearly see immediately.

[@BunnyGxre]

And there are also little girls who felt really represented by Ariel. There’s plenty of videos on the internet of that too… idk why people want to argue about the fact Ariel is black or that her hair is loced up 😭 she is literally living underwater, it’s not going to flow

[@anasofia4692]

@@BunnyGxreI mean, the same could happen with original black characters.

[@ich8966]

Thats one girl though. I can understand that black kids feel left out when they only see white people in disney movies but remaking an old movie, changing the characters skin color and then calling yourself a hero for it is just cheap. If disney really cared about black people not feeling represented they would have made a new movie with a new story and with beautiful animation. Make something new and make people love it instead of just remaking an old movie. It's just so embarrassing.

[@nooneeey]

It is stupid to change her colors, all of them. If they wanted a black mermaid they easily could have just made a new one. This is like the Velma show

[@ZagrosŞêxbizin]

I would go further: stop Hollywood for 15 years.

[@strategery101]

Anyone who watches ANY hollywood movies is beyond hope at this point

[@danialyousaf6456]

*nuke Hollywood for 15 years.

[@brandon5615]

@@danialyousaf6456 It's the only to be sure.

[@danialyousaf6456]

@Nero never gonna happen. Hollywood is corrupt and needs purging. Burn the execs at the stake and blacklist all shit writers and directors.

[@killgazmotron]

@Nero keep the actors, replace EVERYONE else with non western staff and hire translators. That goes for the writers too, foreign then translated. Get the experience but with none of the western poison. There are film makers all over the world to choose from.

[@CrashMan156]

A major problem a lot of these remakes/ sequels have is the writers believe the women in the those stories were “done dirty” and that they must fix that (Trinity,Nala,Leia,Faye)

[@rovospire]

I absolutely hate how these new wave femenists, all act like women were in cages the last 60 years. Women were liberated in 60s, and been countless, countless, countless amazing women who have been own person since. Like days of I Love Lucy, despite being prototypical household wife from old era, shes way more strong, interesting and lovable as anything these girl bosses of today. I mean every subject, there were women at forefront of it, even video games and horror movies, places that people felt women were being treated as "pieces of meat", yet been the top place for the strong woman archetypes. Women who ran companies like Oddworld and Sierra, had immature and pervy stuff, cause in reality women like the same things as men. Even the old pervy movies like Slumber Party Massacre, literally directed and written by women. Reminds me of the femensists who hate Quiet from Metal Gear. Her body was sculpted from her voice actress. She was hyper sexualized, and these screaming women wanted her gone, yet if they did that, they just took work away from a strong successful woman, who launched her career into space with that character.

[@AMG-ko3gt]

@@rovospire You're damn right, dude! I hate how feminists today keep whining about oppression, being "ObJeCtIfIeD," lack of representation, gender roles, etc. Women in the west and even women in my home country (the Philippines) pretty much have more freedom and representation in the workplace and films than they've ever had 70-120 years ago.

[@blablup1214]

I don't get it. So many woman in those old movies are the main charackter. And as I saw them as a child I didn't think they are weak or sexualized. More often than not the man charackters of today are totally useless. At least they could put in some logic. I mean come on. Under the sea is less light. Your skin color changes because of light. how the hell should a mermaid living deep down under the sea get black skin color... What is next ? A black Snowwhite ? I am totally okay with changing te skin color of the charackters, but at least they should check if this makes sense in the stoy of this movie.

[@somerandom7215]

@@blablup1214 "characters" just so you know.

[@creativitysubs9935]

If they don't like the original, they aren't QUALIFIED to make a remake.

[@Buford_T_Justice1]

Thank you for this love letter to traditional animation Drinker. Those of us that were there making these films by hand appreciate it.

[@elusivemayfly7534]

Thank you! Cell animation is magic. You can feel the human touch that gives it life.

[@purplewolfranger22]

@u know me reported

[@kinghemirstir9390]

i agree with drinkers statement too

[@geraltofrivia586]

Every fan of traditional animation should turn to cartoon saloon for quality content

[@hawks4305]

Being a kid in the 80s and becoming a teen in the 90s was pretty awesome tbh

[@keyairakinslow9598]

I'm sure it was. Lucky.

[@pain-killeryates5448]

It was! I do miss those days and wish I could go back

[@HansDampf-bt8jy]

Yeah, there's a reason why there are so many movies or shows talking place in the 80s. Life wasn't perfect but it sure was better than today.

[@clydebrown9982]

Being a kid in the 70s and becoming a teen in the 80s was extraordinary awesome! Happy for you that you got the great years just 10 years later.

[@stitch77100]

Yeah, humanity kinda peaked until the early 2000s, then I think it went (not so slowly) downhill. You can see it in the quality of the movies: the masses started to consume mass produced movies instead of intelligent and well created art pieces. First small clue that something changed, and not for the best.

[@huntercool2232]

Everyone: “So are you ever gonna do any hand drawn films again?” Disney: “No.” 🙂

[@austinreed7343]

At least some of the CGI ones are good and original. But how long will that last?

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

most of the talent went to china

[@thelthrythquezada8397]

Don't it take longer to animate vs live action? Hmmm Well I mean there's Pixar, so I believe its not as time consuming as animation once was.

[@EmperorPiplup]

Literally they annouced a hand-drawn princess movie "Wish" that comes out November 22, 2023

[@son1214]

The bobs burgers movie was hand drawn by Disney :)

[@lucad9667]

It's gotten to the point where I look at films like "The Black Cauldron", "Brother Bear" and "Home on the Range" and think to myself: "We still had it pretty good back then..."

[@wendydanielle3476]

Brother Bear slaps tho

[@lucad9667]

@@wendydanielle3476 Isn't it still pretty low on the popularity scale? It wasn't such a great hit when it released, and I don't think it has as much of a cult following as Treasure Planet or Atlantis...

[@fix0the0spade]

@@lucad9667 Brother Bear suffered from coming out in 2003, right at the height of Pixar's powers between Finding Nemo and The Incredibles. At the time CG animation was still the new thing and all other methods looked obsolete. Looking back, those Pixar movies stood on their writing first and visuals second, they could have been made in 2D and they'd still have been Incredibles (heh).

[@gromm93]

All of which were final rehashes of the same movies that Disney had already done a dozen times before you were born. It's what they do.

[@lucad9667]

@@gromm93 Eeeeeh, I don't really see it like that, at least not to such an extend as today. Black Cauldron for example, while noticeably flawed, had a much darker and scarier tone than films before. For example, the scene with the army of the dead really stood out, and it is still the cencored version. There are elements from other Disney classics, yes, but it did try somehing new. Brother Bear not only had absolutely stunning visuals, it's also the only Disney movie featuring North American native culture. Plus, the realization that the protagonist killed, and I mean KILLED, the mother of a pretty young child is really heavy stuff if you think about it. Normally, as with Bambies mom, the killer is just a faceless evil, they drastically changed that here.

[@viisaus5747]

I think the dark colour palette in a live action movie is less about realism and more about how making everything dark hides the bad cgi and lowers the costs.

[@nelisezpasce]

Theory 1: It's primarily a tech demo meant to test higher color-depth capabilities on newer cameras/displays Theory 2: It's designed for top-of-the-line 8K UHD HDR Dolby Vision screens, the rich are that out-of-touch!

[@mikespike2099]

The thing that turned me off with the new Mermaid is her “blackish” singing … shrilling galore … no thanks 👋

[@paulolsen2197]

@Be Straight Finally, an attention seeking bot.

[@johngeiger3770]

Could be. VFX/CGI is a very painstaking process and if someone's lazy with an absurd deadline knocking, it's bound to be a mess.

[@bigduke2140]

@Be Straight DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK - IT IS FOR AN AIR FRYER

[@Natej3ds]

What I actually liked about the original little mermaid and Mulan was that any message that could be found inside of them was perfectly natural and made everyone enjoy the movies rather than dividing their audience and losing them in general

[@reubensandwich9249]

I can still remember sitting in a movie theatre as a kid when The Lion King opening started. None of the talent today could string together that music and sunrise.

[@nelisezpasce]

Real art dies because the craft doesn't get passed down to the next generation of animators Never trust someone that wants to erase traces of the past, hiding the truth, that's all wrong

[@SchmokinJoe]

@@nelisezpasce Truth

[@ricktr6861]

Not when the current crop are all diversity hires

[@tippyc2]

That was probably one of the best movie openings ever.

[@ugdayiskfay3718]

Lion King (the original) was an excellent movie with an outstanding soundtrack... This was the best of the genre and era....

[@amsgame7148]

I told my wife we should watch the new Mulan (I was trolling her. She didn't know about how abysmal it was and is a HUGE fan of the animated one). Anyway, we got to the roof part in the beginning and she turned to me and said, "This is awful. Can we watch something else?" LOL

[@mattwuk]

She's a keeper.

[@MrFreakazoid24]

This was also my Fiance in the first 15 minutes of Rings of Power with Guyladriel jumping off a sword and flying through the air to kill a troll. She looked at me and said can we watch Breaking Bad again 😂😂😂

[@jhinabloomingflower807]

@@MrFreakazoid24 Game of Thrones* you meant

[@vormina9808]

I just realized I haven't seen any of the live action remakes and I'm so thankful for that.

[@aesiddoway]

I remember seeing a special at the end of my “Sleeping Beauty” VHS that was a behind the scenes about how the backgrounds in the show were all painted by hand. It was so beautiful and enchanting to me as a little girl and it’a what inspired me to learn to paint for myself. New Disney could never inspire me like that.

[@sophietemple2728]

Made in 1959, still one of the most stunningly animated films of all time in my opinion! And ageless, because it will never age the way computer/3D animation will

[@EvilDoresh]

@@sophietemple2728 I think they prefer products that _do_ age nowadays, since you can just remake them again for more product to consume.

[@boejudden9011]

You act like that same version of Snow White doesn't exist anymore. Americans are psychotic

[@theninjamaster67]

@@boejudden9011 That's not even close to what she said she said it's one of the most beautiful animated films she'd ever seen and it inspired her to become an artist which is something the new Disney could ever do. Looks like people from whatever cesspool you crawled out of have reading comprehension problems and a bad case of being an asshole.

[@1Guason3]

@@boejudden9011 this just in, the internet doesn't take place in America.

[@cassielandara]

I’m honestly rooting so hard for Dreamworks right now- with the new Puss and Boots movie and the upcoming Kung Fu Panda 4, I think they might actually save us.

[@s.g2344]

100 % agree after watching Puss in Boots it made me realise how mediocre Disney has become 😓😓

[@serimus]

The “10 years ago” threw me off for a moment. Well done. 😂

[@Mr_laugh_out_loud]

@@serimus same😂

[@GemGames3]

Aslan from Narnia was a realistic lion and he had more character expressions than the soulless 2019 Lion King remake.

[@Vario69]

I kept reading the first phrase over and over and was like, what the f, there was an Asian in Narnia? What are we talking about? Then i remembered the lions dumb name

[@animeangel1983]

And to think that was Disney too. Walden Media is another subsidery of theirs

[@hannahmiller163]

AGREED.

[@RightTurnClyde]

Please stop wrecking everything with identity politics kzbin.info/www/bejne/omWweqWFhaiqj9k

[@SIMBA-tq2ch]

Yep

[@jamlym4974]

"An insatiable, franchise gobbling monster relentlessly consuming good ideas and beloved characters to churn out an endless conveyor belt of bland mediocre sludge." That... was... beautiful.

[@Meg4n]

Very Poetic

[@mannysilver211]

Like that one episode of sponge bob where Mr.Krabs made the sorry mistake of selling the krusty krab only to regret it the moment he steps back into what was his own restuarant.In a way.

[@blacklivesorblackvotes2985]

@@mannysilver211 or when Mr. Krabs let Pearl remake the Krusty Krab to be more appealing to young kids, thus destroying the Krusty Krab’s identity. Some things just shouldn’t be modernized.

[@jaredt5127]

But enough about the Kalergi Plan

[@reubensandwich9249]

Hoping they go through another circle of life.

[@Feanor1988bis]

The old hand drawn animations were superior in every way I can think of. Better looking, more expressive, more unique and always tailored to the story they were meant to show.

[@thelivingshado5]

They both have their place, Encanto was well done. But Disney really should make the movies half and half.

[@nightfalls5462]

they'll have a forever special fond place in my memories, my mother still has a box full of VHS tapes on the attic of these old gems, nostalgia is something special right?

[@hibernopithecus7500]

@@thelivingshado5 I wouldn’t even say half & half. Classically animate, and just finish with cgi. Think Matt Groening; Futurama & The Simpsons Movie.

[@dinogt8477]

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[@dragons_red]

This. Disney went crap long before woke became a thing.

[@expwner1]

every new project that disney puts out has something that they know they’ll be able to fall back on (race, gender, sexuality) if the movie is received poorly. Starwars is the best example of how they hired weirdly diverse main cast and then called us racist for not liking their movies

[@PandaGin]

The irony here being that the more "diverse" they try to make their movies, the less "human" or "relatable" they become. With far less expressionism than before.

[@memberofchat2825]

i dont understand this diversity bullshit, do people of color really struggle to relate to a character that isnt from their own race? isnt that even more racist?

[@tiamystic]

When you try to appeal to everyone, you end up appealing no one.

[@clay9909]

Literally. Just make new movies? Why do you have to change the og ones into a completely different thing. Heard someone say snow white was gonna be hispanic, it is ridiculous.

[@nikkiXx19]

omg they casted Haile because she has the voice!! literally, someone saw her sing live and they wanted her to audition for the part. Notice how these Disney movies are MUSICALS?! they need people who can actually sing and not fake it. Chloe grace motez, who was originally supposed to play her, didn't have the natural singing voice. its not just about looks to get a role

[@clay9909]

@@nikkiXx19 yeah well if you look nothing like the character you shouldn’t be casted either..

[@Shadowrunner523]

The old Mulan told people that you could work hard and overcome adversity and achieve. The new one says that you must be chosen, naturally gifted and predestined to achieve.

[@DoodleThis]

Exactly!!! And yet I’m called sexist for not liking the new one even after I try to explain why I hate it compared to the original. I saw it in theaters when it first came out, Mulan was a FANTASTIC film (the original) and even being a boy it didn’t matter to me that it started a woman, her journey was inspiring to me and I followed her throughout the whole movie. The new one…… I had no words

[@andrewhamilton2371]

so...Harry Potter

[@NinjaFlibble]

just think of what kind of message *that* sends to little girls these days.

[@KPT437]

I saw the little mermaid a year ago with my daughter and was surprised by how brave Ariel was. She saved prince Eric the first time she meets him and he saves her back at the end. She’s very strong willed and independent. The story doesn’t need a “modern” retelling because it’s more feminist (in a good way) than any thing modern Disney writers will come up with. Disney exces don’t care that they’re ruining their own legacy. The more quick and easy money the company makes the bigger their bonuses (which is all corporate people care about)

[@Widdekuu91]

The original Grimm fairyrale was a very feministic warning over what happens when you give up your body, your soul, your mind, your voice and your life for a man that doesn't love you back. And if parents overly shield their daughters away from the world, that every seemingly friendly man is worth dying for in their eyes.

[@Russ0107]

The Disney films from the 90s are only slightly less unctuous than the current ones. I have always stayed away from Disney and if I had a daughter she wouldn't be exposed to that Disney brainwashing.

[@rodericblack4657]

"(in a good way)" Yeah, there is no "good" feminism. Feminism is, in practice, just the push to get more and more privileges for women, often at the expense of men. Women are not equal to men, and trying to pretend that they are and to encourage them to be more masculine is a bad thing.

[@who4440]

How do you know Disney is about to messed up the movie from watching a trailer where you barely see something of the movie? The only thing you can see is a black mermaid who is supposed to be Ariel. We literally got great remakes like Cinderella and the beauty and beast.

[@sushioishii8950]

Walt Disney had a dream....Execs will burn it to the ground to get rich.

[@markpetersen1738]

My main issue with making Ariel black isn't really about the fact that she is black, I understand diversity is important in this day and age, so I'll be more than happy if they make an original movie and story with a leading black character. No my issue with black Ariel is that The Little Mermaid is based on the story of H.C. Andersen, an important author in Danish culture and history, he's like one of the only authors from Denmark that has any real recognition on the international scene, so him and his stories are very important to us Danes, so when Disney decides to make HIS character black it feels (to me anyway) like they are trying to blackwash Danish culture and history for the sake of "diversity" and quite frankly that pisses me off. Imagine if Disney took a traditional folklore from somewhere in Africa and made it an all white cast to "make it diverse" that would not go down well. Why not just make those folklores from Africa into movies? Make the western world aware of those stories like with Mulan. Nobody gives a shit about Denmark on the international scene anyway, so it's fine that something that is important to our culture gets shat on.

[@stitch77100]

Exactly. I'm from France and I love old fairytales from Andersen, Grimm, Perreault, the 1001 nights... They are interesting and teaching stories and moments, and the fact that they tried to change characters that were white, while not daring to touch the other "races" (I really dislike that word, but I don't have an other one in mind) tells you everything you need to know about Disney's mindset while doing those films...

[@Feja2503]

@@stitch77100 Yeah if its diversity we would get a white or black mulan (or side characters), a chinese, black or whatever alladin (or side characters). Or LBGT... But no those are ''cultural,'' and correct while a crapton of diversity is to be found in anything European or American. IMO i dont need it either way, like blade wich they basically wanted to kick blade out off and make it about females. No blade is a badass black character, not about female empowerement. Nor would i need a male Ariel.

[@mitacestalia7532]

YES! Africa actually has their own myth of mermaid called Mami Wata and I'm upset that out of all possibility, they choose a Danish story! Make a new story based on the mythology!

[@Ash-io2wr]

I bet Ursula isn't actually bad ,and she surely would have some backstory , showing her good. Because if they show a woman as a bad person it won't fit ..... THE MESSAGE !

[@DRKLRD-kv4cm]

It's horrible to realise that what are you saying Is right no matter how stupid It sounds (the fact that had they made Ursula a bad Person people would get OfFeNdEd)😔😔😔😔😔

[@chadghostall5648]

Yeah don’t you hate it when a movie has a sympathetic villain 😩😩

[@SammySamSams]

i hate villains that have simple backstories and personalities and dont have a good side to them😔😔😔😔😔

[@derpoblizist9076]

I mean, it would improve on the depth of her character,

[@stickedice1979]

I bet she doesn't even fall in love with the dude like in the original animation. A WOMEN can't want a man so the man will probably fall in love with the little mermaid.

[@MirandaSinistra]

The biggest insult to me with Nulan, much like most feminine characters today, is them making her so masculine. Disney seems to hate everything feminine in their female characters. What message is that sending to young girls?

[@Barbarossa97]

There is neither masculinity nor feminity in the west. You are all Grey Sludge. The tribe lording over you like cattle

[@laurahuston2187]

Toxic femininity.

[@Kostas_Dikefalaios]

They want more feminine boys and more masculine girls if you havent noticed.

[@EgoEroTergum]

That gender is just a construct designed to keep them down by malicious and misogynist predecessors, rather than an evolving reaction to the realities of genetics, economics, and society; and that they should therefore dump everything feminine like a slave dumping chains. And paradoxically, it encourages little boys to try to become women, since they are held up as a nebulous and all-encompassing moral good only achievable through self-rejection.

[@RuiLuz]

They are telling young girls to man up.

[@hannepicklesimer8133]

I'm only 23 and I'm honestly crushed by the fact that I don't know if we'll have the same kind of movies that I grew up with. Everything was so thoughtful, creative, and amazingly executed back then. Even in the 2010s with DreamWorks making things like How to Train your Dragon and Megamind are classics to me vs today's garbage. Each Pixar movies each had their own style. There's a clear style difference between The Incredibles, Ratatouille, Monsters Inc, etc. Ever since Coco came out, all the characters look like they came from the same model. Not only that but EVERYTHING is 3D now. I miss the mixed mediums between hand drawn, claymation, and 3D. We weren't over saturated with the same empty animation today. More and more I find myself using the DVD and VHS player than using netflix. I'm hanging on to all hard copies of movies, shows, and games. People might look at me crazy for not watching any of the new star wars, LOTR, or marvel garbage, but it's honestly not worth my time. I genuinely haven't had any motivation to go see a theater movie since 2017 which is tragic imo. As an artist myself, I'm just crushed to see everything get swept up into political correctness and even as a woman myself, see all these garbage women characters that are so full of themselves. Heck as a kid, the first character I related to was Hogarth from the Iron giant. I'm so sick of this mindless garbage that people eat up. I'm so glad I'm not the only one that feels like this, I just wish there was something that we could do about it besides not consuming the content.

[@k-mashup1144]

Well grow up and get over it.

[@kendallrivers1119]

@@k-mashup1144 you're the one that needs to grow up and stop coming onto these types of vids and try to control folks. If you like the crap they make now then go watch it instead of being a pathetic troll.

[@bikotheanimator6169]

Intriguing. I am a dark skin male myself who grew up with Little Mermaid, Disney shows, Dragon Ball, Power Rangers, Toonami, and other legendary shows during the 1990s and around early 2000. I think the Little Mermaid film released the year I was born. I worked at Pixar as an intern in Summer 2019 in the beautiful San Francisco Bay Area, and I am currently an animator at a game company. I don't like how, whoever inside of Disney, decided to make Ariel a dark skinned person. It makes no sense. I am also someone who is only attracted to caucasian or latina women, and I probably like redheads the most because of Kate Winslet as Rose Titanic and recently Isla Fisher haha. I also remain single and avoid relationships. I have my good time on the weekends with a woman and continue working throughout the week. All of that aside, I am disappointed with the decision. It makes no sense to make Ariel a dark skin person. It also makes no sense that Rey kissed the man who was trying to capture and murder her in every episode, and the dark skin man who was by her side and rescuing her received nothing but random women thrown at him. They could not stand to see a dark skin man with a caucasian woman. Companies should stop changing the characteristics of legendary established characters and be more creative with original ideas. They could have made a part 2 live action film after this one where the beautiful redhead caucasian mermaid Ariel meets with a dark skinned mermaid in different part of the sea, and they join forces in the film to triumph over a threat or obstacle. Anything is better than rewriting history or changing the original design. It will only make everyone dislike darker skinned people more. I also think that is the secret agenda when these top people make decisions like this. It's quite simple. Change the color of a famous character and make everyone hate the new color because of that major change.

[@emolies_.]

I’m so glad I read the whole thing, now I agree with you.

[@ared4391]

Everything everywhere all at once was the last movie I saw in theaters. Was an incredible film, I’d highly recommend it. So much better then all this blockbuster garbage

[@amarjitbassan2998]

A day after watching this video, I saw an article about a live-action remake of Muana. Showed my six-year-old daughter. Her response was '"Why?". Simple, yet brutal.

[@xxTC-96xx]

another remake that's so bold and so empowering that everyone will forget about it like all of the others. Disney really is saving the world by fabricating outrage and controversy instead of making an original story with real diversity :/

[@randomfools808]

This film will be forgotten about by the end of summer next year.

[@GetWokeGoBrokeNews]

Exactly!! Get Woke, Go Broke (funny song): kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpekiWyIhLqnp68

[@jk802]

When we saw the trailer for Little Mermaid wife said they were making another live action movie like they did with Aladdin. We had forgotten all about the live action Beauty and the Beast, Mulan, and Lion King.

[@therealnotanerd]

If I remember correctly most of Disney stories are not original, most of them are adapted old stories and sometime even folklore. Even Lion King is an adaptation of King Lear. Of course I am sure there are some original ideas, but Disney started by borrowing other people's stories. So...

[@NewNormalWorldOrder]

It’s ON PURPOSE! It is purposeful demoralization and degradation; everything we’ve once loved or enjoyed is being destroyed. From art to pro sports to video games and everything in between. Not only that but in this case, it’s just more anti-white garbage, which in turn adds to the divide and conquer as well. And it’s all 100% on purpose. How many times can this happen before the excuse of “it’s just pandering to people” or “it’s just SJW propaganda” The profits do not matter. They’ll destroy billion dollar franchises like Star Wars if it means they’ll piss people off or divide them or demoralize them or what have you. The AGENDAS OF THE SYSTEM come before “making money,” let alone putting out a good product.

[@moniquegarcia4957]

Drinker you’re absolutely right. I thought about the fragility of these classics when I get pregnant. So, my husband and I first gift to our daughter was a a very expensive collection of the Disney classics. Of course we had to dig in the flea market to buy a DVD player but after your final speech on this video, I feel that I bought to my daughter a treasure that no one can take us away. Of course, I refuse to pay a cent for Disney plus.

[@owenogletree6374]

"I refuse to pay a cent for Disney plus" You damn well should! Nobody should be wasting their time on this crap. If more and more people stop giving these bastards what they want, then maybe a change can be made and Disney will come back to its roots.

[@Zac_Frost]

Weird. The market where I live still has DVD players out the ass lol. I have one, and a back up. I get your sentiment, though. I love physical media. All my books, manga, games, DVDs, etc are physically. Except for a few download-only games I have. But with those games, once you download them, as long as you don't delete them, they're yours.

[@brandyreads]

You can also watch DVD movies on a PS4. It plays Blu-ray Discs as well as regular DVDs

[@Zac_Frost]

@@brandyreads Exactly. And DVDs are cheaper. At the Wal Mart in my area, DVDs are, at most, $10. Unless you get a season or whole series of something. Then it costs more. Though, if you do that, then you own it for life. You don't have to pay the streaming cost or be connected to the internet to watch it whenever you want.

[@BikingVikingHH]

Good job mom, get your child addicted to media slop right off the bat. Much better than being an involved parent LOL

[@danielconde13]

I also had the spectacular privilege of being a kid in the 90's. The release of a new Disney movie was a magical event back then, and you were never bored throughout the entire thing, always looking for that one moment or sheer fucking marvelous display of art every movie got here and there. I'm still able to pick an old DVD and watch The Hunchback of Notre Dame and be in awe when Frolo sings while the choir chants the very _Act of Contrition_ in Latin. Or still cannot stop the goosebumps while Simba returns to his homeland and steps up the rock to be recognized as king under those few notes of "Remember" from no other than Hans Zimmer himself. Or just loose myself over the ceiling animation when Bella and the Beast dance; amuse myself with the Muses and Hades in Hercules; feel completely immerse in the adventure of discovering Atlantis... It was magical, it was - and still is - unforgettable. Disney today is absolutely unrecognizable in comparison to what it was in the 90's.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

Hi daniel! Early 90's child here. Used to be a baby in the year Smells Like Teen Spirit hit the charts and remember Beauty And The Beast, Aladdin and The Lion King. Missed out on Hercules and Tarzan but saw Mulan

[@Feanor1988bis]

Oh yes, it was always special going to the theatre to watch a new movie, they had heart, they were alive, they stayed with me...

[@henrykujawa4427]

MY favorite Disney film from the 90s... was their live-action remake of the 1960s Jay Ward cartoon "GEORGE OF THE JUNGLE". Which, crazy enough, is much closer to the first 2 ERB "TARZAN" books in its story than it is to "GEORGE"! Ursula was just ADORABLE, and reminded me of a girl I knew in art school who, tragically, married the wrong guy.

[@bishbosh4815]

I at least had some great Disney and Pixar movies in the 2000s

[@conradmilligan]

I often thought that being a 90's kid was a lucky thing. at first i thought it was just nostalgia and rose tinted glasses, but it genienly was a more upbeat time.

[@KitsuneFyora]

8:33 the whole minute starting here is exactly my issue with not just the little mermaid, but pretty much every live action remake Disney has created so far

[@pamelahermano9298]

I went from loving Disney to hating how lazy and creatively bankrupt they are.

[@coyote000]

Whos to blame? Bob Iger?

[@chasehedges6775]

Same here. Disney has become a shadow of its former glory

[@Fatbodypyle]

Its not just Disney its the new generation of people now. The boomers didn't do a good job raising their children and it reflects in every aspect of this American culture. Sad.

[@CRAgamer]

Walt is rolling in his grave rn.

[@jaredt5127]

Step 3: actively bankrupting Disney. Im doing my part!

[@constantlyenthused336]

Pop culture wise, growing up in the 80s and 90s was indeed a gift.

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

Not a gift. It was a treasure trove. Born in 91 and I know it was and that is the reason why I'm speaking against woke Disney's BS!

[@Krysnha]

@@JustTooDamnHonest Yes, a trasure, and it will live in the hearts of a lot of people, these bs, will die eventualy

[@ricenbeenz...]

It was AWESOME

[@Ithurtssobad]

We are cursed to see it all go to shit. Maybe things will have a proper restart in the next 50 years or so. I'm personally hoping for nuclear devastation or a giant space rock to flatten our precious planet.

[@jeffreyskoritowski4114]

@Zyzz Low grade bait m8

[@bcdside]

I’ve talked to people born in the 90s who wanted to grow up to be old school cell animators because of the Disney Renaissance animated movies. Their disappointment with how animated movies have not only devolved in quality but also made cell animators practically unemployable is immense.

[@ironpulcinella3586]

I went to college for that Was greeted with computer programs.... Dropped out 💔

[@hubertcumberdale2651]

And what do you do exactly when you are essentially BORN to be a talented animator? Its not just something anybody can choose to study and eventually become good at it. People tend to have natural talents for such things which evolve quickly.

[@scottbecker4367]

@@hubertcumberdale2651 look for indie projects. Cuphead is an indie video game that's all hand animated.

[@ih82r8]

If you ask me Sleeping Beauty was the height of Disney animation.

[@hemmydall]

To be fair, all the Disney movies shown in the vid experimented with and helped pioneer 3D animation. The key difference is it was used to magnify the cell animation. You see the techniques still at use today by movies like Klaus and Series like Arcane (though in that case, 2D animation to enhance their 3D).

[@jollyrancher8727]

Thank god I have all the original VHS tapes in mint condition. I noticed all the tweaks Disney has done to their older movies, especially Pocahontas and Fantasia.

[@Tackitt]

@Tempting Tech I'd like to know as well

[@Not-ElBarto]

I'm not sure about Pocahontas, but the edit in Fantasia was a black centaur/donkey that was a servant for the other centaurs. I think it got edited in '69 so now she's gone. For the 2 people above me

[@serimus]

I have Peter Pan / Fox and the Hound on DVD from my childhood. Not really sure about everything else.

[@justforever96]

You all make it sound like they pulled all the original films from the market and tried to replace them when the live action ones, and there is no way to go notice that they race swapped the main characters unless you saved an old VHS copy from the memory hole. You can still get the original aminated film, they didn't replace it, they just came out with another, new film to sell more movies.

[@andrewceglio7549]

My wife and I have this discussion all the time. When a series or movie that we love gets removed from a streaming service, I remind her that we own it on BLU-RAY or DVD and she complains about having to change the disc and how inconvenient that is. And I can't help but poke fun at her laziness by sarcasically telling her how hard her life is. You are spot on Drinker, as always.

[@JABoyle3875]

What pisses me off about a lot of the streaming is the alt audio options. Blu rays have French audio, but the same flick on say Disney plus doesn’t. Important in my house because my wife is French and our son is in 1st grade in a French immersion school. Ratatouille doesn’t have French audio!

[@andrewceglio7549]

@@JABoyle3875, seriously? That's insane! Of all things, Ratatouille!

[@brentsealy9623]

Get a Firestick and you can have it all for free.

[@pyropulseIXXI]

It isn't even hard to change a disk. I have to ask.... why did you settle? If I was with someone like that, I would constantly be looking down at them for being so f*ckign stupid and bran dead, someone easily socially programmed. There are so many girls out there; you can literally fall legitimately in love with at least 1 million girls in this world. That is how many people there are on this Earth.

[@cattysplat]

@@pyropulseIXXI Nobody is immune to wanting things easier and more convenient. Would you say the same about yourself every time you buy something from Amazon? For most of us our expectations have changed and many people cannot afford to buy physical media or buy at retail for everything.

[@karole.]

Just seen the original Little Mermaid last week again: for me Ursula is one of the best animated villain, her movement is so mesmerizing, powerful and scary.

[@laurenaspreyart]

I totally agree, I was creeped out and yet fascinating by her when I first saw the film aged 3

[@bighatastrea]

Who are these movies for? Seriously, for adults crying when they see a hint of nostalgia, kids, young adults to get them into the Disney stuff? The animated movies are timeless classics and still look super good in 2022... what is the point of this? Also, as a kid I always thought Arielle was incredibly attractive and a beautiful princess (just from the way how she was drawn and presented), here she looks reaaally ugly tbh, but maybe it's just me getting older lmao

[@hammeredllama]

Designed after a drag queen and voiced by Pat Carroll. The design was great and Pat Carroll did an amazing job voicing her but now she’s going to be voiced by Melissa McCarthy and who knows what CGI abomination there going to use for Ursula

[@jettyd69]

Those poor unfortunate soulllllsssss

[@legendaryra3590]

They are already retroactively editing and censoring old media so be careful using streaming services and buying digital copies of "original" movies/tv. It's best to have a physical copy and use caution with anything that's been manufactured in the last 5 years

[@xcharlesbronsonx]

That scene where Ursula gets cornered at the docks and indignantly says, "Diplomatic Immunity". While Ariel iconically replies, "It's just been revoked" and impales Ursula in the dome with a vibranium powered, laser speargun... It was so brave, stunning, and totally KO'D the patriarchy in Mordor.

[@mikehunt7419]

Mannn I'm getting too old for this shit!!

[@xcharlesbronsonx]

@@mikehunt7419 "Too old for this shit!"-- The slogan of the late 80s and the 90s movies Technically this line was used way before lethal weapon (in a ww2 John Wayne movie and star wars, the original one, uttered by obiwan). I think lethal weapon was the first to use it so iconically, thus making it so memorable

[@Timmo885]

@@xcharlesbronsonx And then Ariel says "It's Ariel'in time"

[@GLOWman812]

Where have I seen that done better before? Oh yeah, Lethal Weapon II.

[@revolution2762]

Can someone explain this to me pls. What’s the deal with everyone saying “I liked the part when-“ and then saying some random shit

[@christopherherr7561]

I never thought about it that way. Disney hired Halle Bailey knowing fully well the reception she'd get. It's so easy for them to lump the genuine criticism with the racist and bigoted takes, and basically let her take all the heat because she is the face of the movie. She's a good singer and is pretty. She'd do well as a lead in a new IP, but god forbid Disney ever do anything like that. Just do performative virtue signalling, wring the nostalgia bait dry, rinse and repeat. God, Disney and MCU is unbearable...

[@clintonmeyer8884]

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[@wolftamer5463]

This is part of why I liked Zootopia so much. It was a whole freaking world that they built up with its own rules, different areas, amazing colors, and wonderful characters. Even the music was welt jazzy and lively.

[@justaguyonyoutube4592]

Don’t lie, you like it for Judy lmao Edit: Although ngl, I to like it for Judy. Like Judy is kinda bad tho.

[@ISetYourFaceOnFire]

That movie is disney's modern masterpiece....

[@jaredoroc6253]

who said disney wont remake it

[@charlespeter9914]

Sing 1&2 were also good.

[@jas5519]

@@ISetYourFaceOnFire don't go throwing around masterpiece to any movie because clearly zootopia is not as great as you think

[@antense7en474]

Man oh man, am I eternally grateful that I grew up in the 90’s. It really was a cultural Renaissance in terms of television, film, and animation. If you take even so much as a cursory glance back into that decade, and compare it to where we are now, it’s immediately obvious that filmmakers today are, by and large, creatively bankrupt.

[@albertwesker6153]

I’m jealous, I’m growing up in these shitty times

[@ashokadhshd3438]

90’s was literally also Disney’s renaissance era. Where Disney movies were arguably the best they’ve ever been

[@noahgutierrez5840]

Boo hoo movies are better than ever ur just a whiny bitch go watch more shit

[@seth5143]

Television is oceans better now, dude.

[@HeavyMetal-jy4vj]

I think some of the TV shows of today are better but with the 90s it was fun because everything was so different and full of imagination. I might rather watch Better Call Saul than Ally McBeal but Aeon Flux is so much cooler than anything we have or Ren and Stimpy.

[@sgtpepr6260]

The problem is , is that there is no such thing as a modern audience, there's just an audience

[@KitsuneFyora]

Well, one could say there is a _modern_ audience because whenever there's a huge generation of new people, this new generation has new ideals, different humor/interests, etc. Meaning that movies have to change to meet the interests of this new generation, or modern audience. However, I am in no way saying that the people themselves are different. New generations still like good storytelling and creative content. There's a fine line, and Disney is just throwing stuff out, regardless of audience interests.

[@JesiAsh]

And there are only two genders 😘

[@sergiowinter5383]

But there is a modern M E S S A G E

[@michaeldefeo3030]

Yeah. Showing up for their highly marketed expectation of....magic? I always find seeing the same crwp in a different version for the 6th time magical. How 'bout you?

[@sgtpepr6260]

@@michaeldefeo3030 well said 👍

[@Iron_Editzz8]

9:47 "Like these stories were generated in a lab somewhere, in order to generate the highest return possible in investment." After She-Hulk's finale, I think this might actually be the case.

[@caronstout354]

That's partially why the WGA is on strike right now..they have seen their future in the entertainment industry and it's AI!

[@huhhuhhuh4069]

When I was growing up, my dream was to become an artist and work for Disney. Never have I been so happy to be a complete and utter failure in life.

[@JoelMatee]

I wouldn’t call it a failure in todays world

[@_twolemons_]

Same. I loved the traditional cell animations. They brought so much joy to me and when I realized I could do that as a job it made me so happy. I still want to do animation, just sadly not for Disney anymore. I just don’t like them anymore and it feels like most of their passion is gone

[@EMMmaximino]

SAME bro!! except i was a looneytune head, but still watched merry melodies; i wanted to be a animator so bad, then i met skateboarders, and started smoking weed. but i still do illustrations has a hobbie tho

[@austinreed7343]

You could still end up working on movies like… Strange World.

[@_Jay_Maker_]

You know what I love about _The Little Mermaid?_ If you watch it with the eye of a creator, it's obvious that the artists who designed and animated Ariel absolutely adore her. She's full of energy and life. Even the stupid decisions she makes are still endearing and representative of her flawed character. There's real talent behind that film, and that energy translates to a palpable viewer experience. Current Disney isn't even on the same stellar map with their live-action work. It has zero life and is therefore deader than Dumbo's Mom, and the audience knows it.

[@bordzbordz6083]

@Be Straight shut it bot

[@graemevaughey7432]

I hope that you meant to write "Bambi's Mum" there, unless there's something I don't know. LOL. Dumbo's mum was _imprisoned_ for flying into a rage and attacking the visitors while defending her son, but I don't recall her ever actually dying.

[@scoobysnak07]

U mean Bambi's mom?

[@facelessguy23]

Facts

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

Deader than Bambi’s mom too.

[@Beard_Hood]

Honestly, the lie of "see yourself" irritates me. I related to all the female princess save for snow white lol. Mulan, sacrificing herself for her father than doing what everyone said she couldn't but in her own way. Little Mermaid, don't sell your soul to the devil. There are moral lesson that can be taken from all of them! And the actions the characters made made them relatable, not their sex.

[@typhonviserys8288]

When my buds and I (all white) were playing basketball, we all pretended to be our favorite players. Terry Porter Clyde Drexler Kevin Duckworth Jerome Kersey Cliff Robinson (Can you tell we're from Portland? Lol) All 6 to 7 foot Gods among men. All black. Seems kinds weird that my friends and I could do it no problem, but it appears to be just too difficult for some people nowadays... Naw! It's every bit as easy as it has ever been. XD

[@ANonymous-mo6xp]

That's the part I'm sure they're going to change. Ariel won't be allowed to make that mistake, it will have to be her being wronged. Maybe they'll say it's Prince Eric's fault.

[@tacticalmattfoley]

I think it speaks volumes about how shallow we've become as a society. We've lost the meaning of the original fable.

[@Beard_Hood]

@@typhonviserys8288 I'd agree, it's very easy to not care about the skin color of your heros. Hell my favorite movie stars growing up were Will Smith, Denzel Washington, Danie Haybert (from the shoe The Unit), Laurence Fishburn, ect. I didn't care that they were black. It wasn't till 2019 that someone told me Hollywood was racist and didn't cast dark skined black people. I looked at all of my favorite movies and had to disagree. Character will aways beat skin color. If you are a peice of shit you are a peice of shit black, white, middle eastern, Asian, whatever. And if you are a decent person it's the same. There is nothing more irrelevant than skin color.

[@dankmemes8254]

@@ANonymous-mo6xp no I already see it prince Eric strikes the deal to make Ariel walk on land only for Ariel scold him with something in the like of "my body my choice" and defeat the big bad without breaking a sweat

[@mattnoel2447]

"There's an entire world of rich cultural traditions, legends and folklore from every conceivable country, race and creed just waiting for you to try out." e.g. anything from Studio Ghibli perfectly exemplified this point.

[@MrLordmikel]

My biggest confusion about the Little Mermaid. I couldn't figure out why more people weren't complaining about Halle Berry being cast as the Little Mermaid, I mean, she is in her 40's, no one is going to think she is a teenager. Finally I looked it up and realized it was Halle Bailey.

[@halofreak1990]

A lot of people overlooked that one. I wonder if Disney did that intentionally, so they can shut down some criticism even without the race card.

[@jjcoola998]

The Chinese audience is going to be so confused when they hear “Harre barrey” in the marketing

[@lostcause7594]

Yeah i had to look it up and check cause i thought the same thing... little mermaid not post wall mermaid LOL

[@SlashXIV]

@@IsabEla-tf5lt Can you not read or did you just skip half the comment lmao

[@IsabEla-tf5lt]

@@SlashXIV "i mean she is in her 40s"

[@MetaGiga]

I was born in the late 90s and grew up in the early 2000s. Thankfully, “the message” I grew up with was to treat everyone with respect no matter what color their skin is or what gender they are and to always be willing to be friends with people who are different. Even during the 2000s, I had Disney movies on VHS and would always watch them at my grandma’s house when I went up there for a visit. I remember my favorite one being Beauty and the Beast with Aladdin being a close second (though my new favorites are Emperor’s New Groove and OG Mulan now). I would always sing along to the beginning song! But now my love for Disney has shriveled up and died. I can go back to those older movies, but it only makes me feel sad because that era is just gone now. There’s no hand drawn animation. There’s no heart. There’s only computers. I’d argue that Pixar managed to put heart and soul into its movies even though they did CGI, but that magic also petered out under the influence of modern Disney. Originally, it was rare to see them flop and even then those flops weren’t too bad. Now, they were beaten by the *Minions.* This is a bad timeline for the entirety of entertainment as a whole.

[@homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971]

Ayyy, Aladdin and Emp's new groove are two of my favorite Disney movies. The art style of emp's was so vibrant and creative and how they implemented all these cool little mesoamerican themes and details into everything. You don't see that level of minute detail and dedication these days when it comes to art design.

[@lc4n333]

Early 00's is renaissance for 3D anim

[@TheQuota2001]

You people keep bashing this " The message" idea... Tell me, what exactly is "the message" in your minds? Seriously think about what you are hating on. What is your point in hating this " message" cause clearly you people do not have an honest answer.

[@Vile_Entity_3545]

When I was in school up to 1986 we did not have any respect this person or that colour because we were not brainwashed. We just did respect everyone. You had to be told because your schools were being infiltrated. Unlucky to even think you lived in a time where you think it was different. No I lived in the time that was cool to be a kid. You lived in a turd basket of an age.

[@mw9435]

@@TheQuota2001 What do you mean, you people!?

[@saxophoneevolution]

Your bit about how old animated pictures being more 'human and charming' was spot on mate.

[@SaiidiSaiidi]

I am Jamaican. Will let you know if I decide if it is racist or not

[@hexasquid]

@@SaiidiSaiidi ?

[@avej99]

@@SaiidiSaiidi nigga what?💀💀

[@ytminigamecommandcenter7945]

I agree to soem extent, but people who say that know nothing about CGI. It is just as labor intensive, if not more labor intensive, than 2D animation

[@ConstantijnII]

The freedom to express things in animated movies/series is probably exactly why anime is doing so incredibly well outside of Japan lately as well.

[@Femmeaesthetic]

I’m from 2000s, I grew up watching certain 90s movies however I can tell kids or people from 90s are really lucky, must’ve been a magical experience not only with movies but music and songs.

[@NineSun001]

yes it was.

[@stevemuzak8526]

It was great. They didn't blackwash anything.

[@starchmonkey]

Born in 1990 yeuuuuh

[@mrod8578]

The 2000s was still a fairly good and simple time to grow up in the United States comparatively speaking than today (pre-2008 banking and housing crisis). Homeland security and the NSA was also new and it wasn't quite as powerful as it is today where the US government spies, tracks and uses it's own citizens meta data, wire taps, and cracks down on the freedom of its citizens using its own governmental bodies. Also while the internet still existed, it wasn't quite as powerful as today where it often takes up a person's entire life. Smart phones were also practically non-existent throughout most of the 2000s with very limited use of social media (which has now become an extremely powerful force today and embedded itself into the fabric of our society), and people still generally had to engage the old fashioned way through meeting in person and communicating face to face. The 2000s was that transitional period between the 90s and what you see today. In many ways they got the best of the 90s while getting access to much of the technology of the 2010s and early 2020s without it overpowering their daily lives. We also had comparatively more freedom. That being said the 1990s was dope lol!🤣

[@192lalo]

You do not even know I’m from 85z when I watch the predator, terminator. It shocked me. It was groundbreaking for me. I still watch those movies eveart once in a while. Disney classics. I love the 80s more than the 90s by far. Running man, total recall. And many more. It was a great time for a kid to be alive.

[@everdash]

It astounds me how The Critical Drinker hits a fucking grand slam every single time. The hit/miss ratio is off the charts, and no one else is even close.

[@ptronic]

well he shared two dumb opinions here, that they look like ass because they're live action as if cinema hadn't produced jaw dropping vistas before and that changing iconic character's race is ok

[@tordb]

He's a millennial who Disney doesn't appeal to anymore, boomer

[@Memnon45]

@im calling saul islam loves gayness

[@SapperRJMorgan]

Wholeheartedly agree. 👍🏻👏🏼👏🏻👏🏿👏🏾👏

[@nelisezpasce]

Lavon Affair

[@GeorgeOrwell-yz6zx]

You nailed it when you said today's movies are like reheated leftovers.

[@christiana_mandalynn]

Yes… just plop the leftovers on your plate and reheat it in the microwave….

[@mnomadvfx]

If they were merely reheated it wouldn't be nearly so bad. It's when they start making changes that it gets so much worse. The animals in Dumbo literally ARE the plot, and yet they are all but excised from the live action remake in favor of an anti animal cruelty diatribe and another unnecessary plot point about girls in STEM professions. FFS Disney just give me the talking mouse, isn't that your wheelhouse??!!

[@inspecthergadget4503]

At least reheated food don't imply that I'm a racist Republican, white Trump supporter if I dare to criticize it.

[@GeorgeOrwell-yz6zx]

@@mnomadvfx great points!!

[@kenabi]

reheated, but they spoiled a decade ago.

[@persefani2854]

I am this old. I saw the original Disney "The Jungle Book" at the theater when I was a child . It was amazing 😍

[@StarwayBunny]

Can't forgive what they did to my main man Kaa in the live action remake.

[@gasterthemaster6490]

​@@StarwayBunny I was thinking throughout all the scene: "this is pretty cool. But it isn't The Jungle Book. It's another movie."

[@StarwayBunny]

@@gasterthemaster6490 Exactly.

[@llovebleach6530]

They had the "Bear necessities"! Love that movie!

[@davidshillaker7578]

I was born in 2003. I might not be a 90's kid, but I am still close enough to feel this disconnect between the generations. Nothing beats the originals. A remake has to be absolutely amazing to be considered "better". Studios just need to stop remaking everything. It's not terribly hard to come up with new ideas.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

Hey david, you grew up in the 2000s eh? You manage to find a decent chunk of good content to watch? Remember the 2000s marked the Disney 2000s downfall where the first half o d the decade films barely grossed any decent money and almost quit the 2D film department once Home On The Range bombed in 2004 until Peincess And The Frog in 2009 got them to return to that to close off the decade. The 2000s also saw 9/11 that caused quite a bit of sadness for a long time, George Bush became US president, DreamWorks animation released two of their worst films ever in Shark Tale and Shrek The 3rd, Cartoon Network had their panned liveaction block phase and youtube got created

[@devious9113]

@@Thomasmemoryscentral Just because he was born in 2003 doesn't mean he can't see stuff from the 90s. I have tons of VHS Cassettes from back then and 2 working VHS Players, and I fully intended to let my Niece who was born in 2020 watch the classics when she grows up. So just because someone wasn't born in the 90s, it absolutely doesn't mean they won't ever get to watch the originals and see the difference between the old and new. Maybe they'll prefer the new ones or maybe they'll prefer the old ones like we do, but only time will tell.

[@sadpikachu409]

​@@Thomasmemoryscentral You are old and possibly senile and probably didn't have the best childhood POV: ​ @Thomasmemoryscentral

[@thelibyanplzcomeback]

I was born that year too. I can say that society and media has DRASTICALLY changed since 2010.

[@maairasif6047]

The only good live action remake was probably jungle book

[@mrthuggerson7919]

The fact that they haven't done the princess and the frog and pocahontas but will tokenize Ariel, ruin mulan and lion king should tell you everything

[@greatestindanationwide8332]

The original animated movie wasn’t successful so they literally wouldn’t remake it

[@mrthuggerson7919]

@@greatestindanationwide8332 yea but my point is if they want diversity so much they would've did it all they care about is money. And I know they are a company but still.

[@Imlaor25]

Pocahontas: a love story between a native American girl and a white colonizer- ooh, they can’t do that in current year.

[@westonmeyer3110]

@@Imlaor25 They will just remake it into the natives enslaving the whites and John Smith being Pocahontas’ sex slave.

[@tragedyplustime8271]

@@Imlaor25 Wait... Are you implying that colonizers were humans too and some where against what they had to do for their kingdom? I don't believe you.

[@AuroraDragoness]

Your words on traditional animation warmed my heart as I'm a traditional animator, and I want people to see it's magic, still.

[@TheRayfield77]

Just in case you never saw this, I think you'd enjoy it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g521eauiodN4pKM Disclaimer, I have no idea how it was animated. It could of been by computer. But it's still awesome.

[@TheRayfield77]

@Be Straight What does that have to do with animation?

[@graemevaughey7432]

It is magic. It's a series of still images on pieces of paper, which, when photographed in sequence suddenly become a three-dimensional object or character, capable of living, breathing, emoting and interacting with other objects or characters on similar pieces of paper. No other animated form is quite like it. It is baffling to me that 3D CGI has supplanted it in the West, when the latter has far more in common with (and should logically have replaced) stop motion animation. Both of those are effectively forms of puppetry, relying on solid models containing skeletal frameworks. Yet, stop motion continues to... well, exist (it doesn't exactly 'thrive', but Aardman and Laika still continue to put out films on occasion, and there's both Guillermo Del Toro's Pinocchio, and the new film from Henry Selick coming soon ). Meanwhile, traditional animation with its inimitable free-form fluidity hasn't had any real presence in the West for close to twenty years (outside of independently funded films such as _Klaus_ or the work of _Cartoon Saloon_ ).

[@mrcliff3709]

I too wish for traditional animation to make a comeback

[@stevehoffmaster3361]

Sooo , Tinkerbell is black now and Ariel is black now...Hey Disney I dare you to remake Tarzan.

[@pault.1685]

The last message about streaming really hit me: altering past publications because they don't fit the current narrative and then pretending it's always been this way, is exactly what happens in George Orwell's 1984. Soon the original is forgotten.

[@kilgortrout3432]

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” -Orwell

[@edyc1989]

They even come to tell you that history is wrong, what ACTUALLY happened in the past is "wrong" cause it doesn't fit their agenda.

[@TheOddityFair]

I never though ‘1984’ would become so frighteningly possible & realistic. Is it bad that I suddenly have a strong urge to take all of my physical copies of these classics & put them in a war bunker for preservation? Or that I suddenly want to sequester myself in the woods & raise my future children far away from all of this modern garbage?

[@Dimondboy-bf8qn]

This is a certified 1984 moment

[@creativebodyflying]

@@TheOddityFair it's already a reality in quite a few countries

[@sinephase]

I love the flowing Disney hand drawn animation. All those people who dedicated their lives to excelling in animation skills fell by the wayside for no good reason.

[@Takeru9292]

The hand drawn traditional animation department at Disney were mostly fired/laid off in the mid-2000s as 3D animation (mainly thanks to Pixar) was becoming more popular.

[@eccomi21]

@@Takeru9292 this. 2D animation was seen as boring and oldschool, they just did not sell anymore

[@JonathanGaeta]

@@Takeru9292 not only Pixar was becoming popular, same thing happened to Dreamworks where they had their own traditionally animated films, but after Shrek they went full 3D

[@hachelyd_i3232]

They have to bring hand drawn animation seeing as anime has become mainstream and is now killing America’s entertainment

[@JonathanGaeta]

@@eccomi21 it explains why 2D movies that are released these days have underperformed after Disney dropped 2D and all animation studios went 3D including Disney

[@View619]

The fact that Disney even thought the Renaissance Era movies needed remakes (regardless of the final result) says more than anything else. Those movies can stand the test of time as is, in any market.

[@Adamkalb1]

Never before has anyone showcased the problem with spoiled millennial filmmakers as well as this video has done. People who grew up in the 1990s watching filmmakers who were not afraid of taking the right risks to be very creative and entertaining for all, now think they do not have to take any more risks and dwell on the past way too much for the wrong reasons, encouraging every major studio to run on nostalgia fumes for the entirety of the next generation of filmmakers, and tweak a past that was already diverse to appeal to more modern diverse audiences for the wrong reasons. 😢 September 22, 2022, 11:09am

[@Adamkalb1]

Taking risks on original films used to make money, so what changed? Why _else_ did that all stop and being unoriginal makes more money now? September 22, 2022, 11:12am

[@fenrir-art4742]

They have not stayed timeless at all. They are scams. Even Disney Hercules for copying and hurting Cats Don't Dance and Anastasia 1997.

[@danielshults5243]

I'm certain they didn't think they NEEDED remakes, but rather they figured remakes were a low effort way to cash in on nostalgia.

[@danielshults5243]

​@@Adamkalb1 "spoiled millennial filmmakers" eh? I work in a creative field and I know a lot of creatives. I'm an older millennial, and I'm in my mid 30s. I guarantee my peers are not the ones sitting in the board room going "let's remake Aladdin!" That is absolutely the decision of some suit who's never picked up a sketchbook in his life- and odds are good he's older than the millennials. No creative person gets into their field to soullessly parrot other people's work. A cover-band may pay the bills, but everyone wants to make it on the strength of their original content.

[@CantFightFate75]

I remember as a kid growing up in the 80’s and Disney would re-release their older movies like “The Jungle Book”. I went and saw it in the theater as a kid and it was awesome! I can’t stand how everything is now, it’s literally pc gone too far!

[@NymeriaLupin]

For the *realistic* lighting in the live action Little Mermaid, I'd write it up as creative laziness. You could achieve a magical setting by altering it with bioluminescent plants or animals in the cave. Or, considering this movie has mermaids and a sea witch and spells in it, I dunno, magic? Add lamps that glow in the dark from enchanted pearls or crystals.

[@davidcox3076]

Disney has eleventy billion dollars and countless Chinese slave laborers at their beck and call. But here, from a poster in a KZbin commentary, is a spectacular set design idea. Upon reading your description, I could see it in my mind. Pure laziness on their part, indeed.

[@NelBrandybuck]

I've decided that if I want to scratch a nostalgia itch, instead of watching the remakes with my kids, I can just watch the originals with my kids. Disney is a gremlin and we let it eat after midnight.

[@josephbrown9685]

That’s what I’ve been saying. I cannot understand why people pay to watch these subpar remakes when the far superior originals are available.

[@thewalkingcrow8946]

You said that wrong. Gremlins are what you get AFTER you feed the Mogwai after midnight. They don't start out as Gremlins.

[@harryhughdiner4231]

As long as Disney doesn't decide those older ones aren't politically correct anymore, you're fine.

[@majorpwner241]

Well duh. It's not like a cheap soulless cash grab remake is going to top an original and creative idea. Why wouldn't you just watch the classics? They're classics for a reason.

[@sergiogonzalesYT]

True words! I prefer old (90s) classic animations.

[@lance134679]

I think The Princess and the Frog is one of the most beautiful of hand-drawn animated movies, though I'm sure they did a lot of stuff digitally, as well. It was also the last of the Disney hand-drawn movies because it was fast becoming a lost art.

[@DavidGarcia-qf7gc]

And that film showed how to put "Diversity" by the story and not by force

[@Zac_Frost]

Yeah. That's why I stick to anime. They do a bit of 3D mixed in with the 2D lately, but it's still very primarily done by hand. They use 3D and bits of CGI to enhance, not replace.

[@Zac_Frost]

@Marav Reviews Eh, not as much as you'd think, really. A prime example is Megalobox. Sure, it was made using digital means just a few years ago, but the studio "retrofitted" it, if you will, to make it look like it was made in the 90's. And the new Dragon Ball movie being CG will likely not be a trend for the series, as that movie made quite a bit less than the last few at the box office, while costing more. Pokemon is still hand drawn before being colored digitally, Spy x Family uses a mix. The focal characters being done in 2D, with "extras" or background characters being done 3D. Berserk being redone in 3D was a DISASTER, and lost the studio a fortune. My Hero Academia is still done almost exclusively in 2D. Same with One Piece. The new season of Bleach will feature extremely little 3D effects. 2D animation is also a lot "easier" in comparison, as in anime, it runs on "twos" or at 12 frames per second when there isn't any crazy Sakuga animation. Sure, the artists have to redraw the characters every frame, but if you get people that are good and quick enough, that's not an issue.

[@emmanuelrobert208]

@@DavidGarcia-qf7gc By having the black character in there for less than a quarter of the film. Yep diversity.

[@heatherphillips5983]

It was also, literally, the last hand drawn animated Disney movie. I know that might not be exactly true, but it's the last one worth a shit.

[@BangMaster96]

If and when I have my own children, I'm showing them all the cartoons, movies, shows, and animations from back in the day. Ain't no way modern kids even know what it was like to grow up during the 90's and 2000's. Two of the best decades in Human History.

[@bbbyTmZz]

There’s no drive for talented writing for new stories these days, it’s all about getting their grimey hands on more easy nostalgia-bucks. You hit the nail on the head with this one!

[@DRKLRD-kv4cm]

Considering how most people nowdays have become crybabies, that Doesn't Surprise me that much. But It surely annoy me to no end🫣

[@trolleriffic]

That would cost money and would involve studio execs taking a risk on something new and interesting instead of just endlessly rehashing the same safe material in the assumption that audiences will be guaranteed by the name and reputation of much better predecessors

[@Johnny-rx4hs]

Then when it does come around it flies under the radar for a lot of people like The Expanse.

[@InfernoPhilM]

There’s enough sheep in the world to gobble up whatever the mouse sh*ts out

[@axetheviking6482]

In Hollywood, that is! There is quite a bit of good, heart-touching stories if you know where to look! I can easily recommend things like Primal and Cyberpunk: Edgerunners! Fuck Hollywood though(for the most part, anyway).

[@Horsemeat]

I noticed the trend of remakes as we know it now began in the mid 00's. I was doing film studies at the time I thought even then that Hollywood's creative flair began to die.

[@yulee3266]

I read a comment saying the 90s had remakes of 60s movies

[@kevindavid7149]

The cape movie madness and these awful remakes has got to stop

[@niggardlylad2008]

@@yulee3266 yeah and most of them sucked, do you remember that "avengers"(not mcu lol) movie starring Ralph Fiennes and uma thurman? Ofc you don't..

[@yulee3266]

@@niggardlylad2008 I have heard of a movie called to but never knew who was in it

[@nighttrain1236]

@@yulee3266 Yes, Cape Fear (1991) was a remake. There have been other good ones such as Invasion of the Body Snatchers 1978. I feel all these excellent remakes had some creative value, however, rather than just parasitizing off a well known IP.

[@jdsiv3]

This is deeply insightful and genuinely depressing. Without memory, without history our very identity loses any grounding.

[@viktorvaughn7341]

Yeah that is what gets me too, like all this advanced technology and creativity we have in this day and age and these people just remake a fucking movie, like doesn't anyone in Hollywood actually want to be a writer? and produce a script they wrote on their own?

[@Adamkalb1]

@@viktorvaughn7341 I think they are spoiled by how successful and creative the previous generation was, and are too lazy to know how to produce anything other than nostalgia for a now-classic film.

[@MegaClaymore123]

1984

[@kevinbuja8105]

Having collected animated cels, the animators WERE/ARE true artists. They paint from behind or backwards; in the reverse of traditional painting. Details first, then to bigger, and bigger bits.

[@thephoenix8892]

I’m glad you called out Pixar as well, a lot of people don’t usually criticize them that much bc their movies are usually pretty good but their animation has looked about the same with each movie recently and it’s getting really annoying

[@spunchflopbadpants]

well in terms pixar is definitely the better one

[@unidentifiedguy8253]

TBF, if there storylines and characters were still fire, most would overlook this gripe.

[@thebighurt2495]

I feel like Pixar is caught in an awkward spot, visually-speaking. They have a *distinct style* now. If they change it, long term fans will go They Changed It, Now It Sucks. If they don't, people on KZbin will criticize them for not changing it. There are already people doing better (more realistic CGI), so if they try to improve their quality, they'll have to compete with those people now. Cue the people complaining that "Pixar is trying to be all the *other* companies now." I don't think there *is* anywhere for Pixar to go, visually-speaking. They unintentionally painted themselves into a corner and now, since Uncle Disney owns them, there's no chance for them to change it.

[@AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser]

And... John Lasiter said... "PIxar will never make sequels."

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

@@AReallyLongAndUnremakableUser Toy Story and The Incredibles can be the exception though for Incredibles 2, it felt lackluster. Tiy Story 4 and Cars 2 can be ignored

[@ethandickie]

A horror movie little mermaid would’ve been hilarious

[@phantomspaceman]

The Little Mermaid of Innsmouth. Ursula is Mother Hydra in this version.

[@Watermelon74]

I want Snow White to get a horror movie live action version. Especially with the forest scene.

[@phantomspaceman]

@@Watermelon74 A few of those exist because it was an older Grimm story. There's literally one called Snow White a Tale of Terror. The Huntsman movies are the most recent.

[@theninjamaster67]

To be fair the original story of the little mermaid was already kind of a horror story since she turns into sea foam at the end which means she basically died.

[@Watermelon74]

@@phantomspaceman that's so cool I just looked it up

[@csl750]

35yr old here... Mulan was freaking awesome... She starts out humble and then earns the respect of her peers the way live should be... and the Eddie Murphy character, just brilliant...

[@wheeliebin18]

Oh thank God you meant the animated one XD

[@anthonyanderson3448]

It was perfect and had very little fantasy in it compared to the remake. I hated the remake because was promised something more with the actual story then to find out got bait and switched.

[@emancoy]

And then the remake happened and it was terrible

[@jduttskywalker]

It also has one of my favorite Disney songs that I am happy to admit I listen to while I work out.

[@JayCRossi]

Have u watched the original movie?

[@sodiumcyanidee]

I grew up near Burbank and my mother's hospital that she worked at was right next to walt Disney studios. I'll never forget being a teen in the 2010's and seeing rows on employees lined up on strike. The company was on a mass firing spree of original animators in lieu of hiring 3D artists with the rise of Pixar. I didn't realize how serious it was until now :/

[@joshbanks6367]

As a kid of the late 80's/early 90's (I'm 38 now), and the father of 3 young boys, we just watch the original movies. We went to the pictures to watch the Jungle Book remake and the kids have never asked for it ever again, we've watched the original about 20 times though.

[@animezilla4486]

I think the jungle book remake was a good movie it was way better than the original especially when it came to the ending. The ending for the original was just completely stupid after the whole movie of Mowgli being against going to the man village he decides to go to a man's voice because of some girl he has a crush on talk about a lazy way to motivate your character

[@myishenhaines1706]

I also am over remakes. 35 here.

[@GarfieldAtLasganaParty]

I’m 14 and I can say to u, I’m just like y’all the originals are better at this point.

[@andrewwood7303]

I still remember the songs from 50 years ago! Oh……I’m the king of the swingers, the jungle VIP…..hilarious, class!!!

[@nordicnostalgia8106]

@@animezilla4486 Perhaps but he's young and have never seen a girl. We are born with instincts. If anything it shows the power of love

[@AndrewBlack343]

What's even more depressing is that DVDs have a shelf life. They start to delaminate after a decade or two. Even if you have physical media it will not last forever. The same thing is happening with books. People 'buy' the e-book edition but it can be edited on the fly by the company that you paid to 'borrow' it from. You didn't really buy it.

[@chrisortiz7487]

That's why you got to upgrade your physical media to Blu Ray discs. They will outlast you if you take care of them and store them properly. If you want books, buy the physical hard-cover editions if possible. There are books out there, TODAY, that were printed in the 1800s and are still in good condition.

[@devingunnels3251]

Oh damn, I didn't know DVDs degraded that fast. Means my collection is in danger

[@mnomadvfx]

This is why I buy the discs and books but backup everything up to HDD/SSD when possible. I used to have about 500 blurays - without recompression that's about £1800 in SSD's and worth every penny after they take up less space than 2 bluray cases, weigh roughly the same and provide me instant access to all of that material. With ebooks I buy them and then find a source to download it DRM free so that I can view it in whatever reader I want (Amazon Kindle is far from ideal for my eyesight problems). (also Kickstarter's for books often provide the delivered reward as a DRM free ebook in multiple format - well worth the investment) Either way I've paid for it and I don't feel the least bit guilty doing any of that whatever Hollywood wants to say about backing up films that you have already purchased.

[@mnomadvfx]

@@chrisortiz7487 "There are books out there, TODAY, that were printed in the 1800s and are still in good condition." Books printed that long ago did not use the crappy wood pulp paper processes that they use today for mass market supply in the millions. Further back they made pages out of vellum (cured animal hide) which would literally last centuries if properly cared for. There's no reason to be afraid of ebooks so long as you are prepared to seek out less reputable sources for backups of the popular stuff. For Kickstarter books they usually provide a downloadable ebook files in multiple versions like EPUB, MOBI and PDF as I already got 1 of this year and am expecting 4 more next year (Brandon Sanderson fan 4 life 😁).

[@mnomadvfx]

@@devingunnels3251 Get yourself a PC with a DVD drive and a nais fat hard disk to back them all up to. Bonus is increased access that takes up dramatically less space.

[@thedad7313]

The original Tom & Jerry, Bugs Bunny et all from the 30’s and 40’s had a level of animation, love, feeling, music story, voice acting ( RIP Mel Blanc) and genuine magic, that has never been replicated.

[@dinogt8477]

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[@darwincity]

There is a Disney short called "The Cookie Carnival" that seems to be an obligatory right of passage for any KZbin-using animation geek, and even though it was made in 1935, the fluidity of the animation and the sheer heart put in it makes it endearing and timeless. Plus, it has the OG voice of Goofy as the helpful friend and some fun examples of Irish stereotypes from the time!

[@Gr1mm4]

I still enjoy the Tom and Jerry where they froze the kitchen and ended up ice skating in it, as well as the Jekyll and Hyde episode when Tom's poison ends up making Jerry really strong, classic stuff.

[@faffywaffle4243]

@@darwincity I love the Disney shorts! My favorite one is the Old Mill, it's so beautiful yet frightening. There's just something so wonderful about the animation in 20th century that reminds me of what humans without the internet could achieve and how relatable thier stories are unlike today where everything is become accessible but at the cost of quality.

[@darwincity]

@@faffywaffle4243 Oh, now this one hits very close to home. My older brother, even in his thirties, is not capable of watching it to the end. It is probably the most intense sequence ever put into animation, not sure many things top that.

[@erniehudson1]

The main problem with the little Mermaid's remake isn't the darkness, but her darkness, it means Disney tempered again in our childhood memories and killed again another redhead on the altar of diversity in order to virtue signal to the world. I want my pale ginger redhead Ariel I first saw when I was 9 years old!

[@snatched2348]

The og Ariel is still there

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

If they are following that formula, they're going to do the same with the girl from Brave when that one gets made

[@justforever96]

Well they didn't delete and burn the original film and all existing copies, so you can still have your original. Just saying.

[@JohnGalt916]

I personally want Matt Walsh's little mermaid movie. With her skin being translucent and you can see her skull through her face. Like a singing angler fish.

[@niggardlylad2008]

A singing jellyfish? Really?

[@mjones4083]

& not a hair weave in sight !

[@neon_blue4464]

​@@niggardlylad2008 it'd be way more interesting than the movie we're going to get

[@f4rt989]

Would offend less ppl than making her black lmao

[@sintanan469]

@@niggardlylad2008 Why not? A tabletop campaign I'm involved with has eel/jellyfish naga people that start off translucent in their hatchling form, and as they mature they slowly scale over and lose their transparency. They're also a people of strong emotions, focusing on crafts and arts that invoke those emotions in others. So, sure. A singing jellyfish is more than possible. Just takes a Hollywood that isn't creatively bankrupt.

[@nigelbryant7980]

Interesting connection you made. From Pinocchio to Lion King, the facial expressions are a pure art form. Those days are gone now.

[@supermaneternal]

Play Cuphead and beat it.Your welcome

[@Memnon45]

@Chad 007 islam loves gay people

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

We are definitely in the Dark Age of Disney So glad I grew up in the 90s.

[@rwberger6]

Disney is back to where is was 50 years ago when it was going through a similar slump.

[@g00nther]

Yeah, but you missed out on the 80s 😎😄

[@tool2158]

Correction: Dark Age of Entertainment.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

@@g00nther Which was another Dark Age for Disney lol

[@tool2158]

@@g00nther I grew up in the 90's with stuff from both the 80's and 90's. It was a wonderful mixture of great entertainment and music.

[@kingstonboone2481]

They have no limits. Won't be surprised if they make their own Exorcist and somehow make it 'for kids'

[@tiamystic]

PG13 I’m sure so yeah

[@kingstonboone2481]

Oh it's gonna be bad