Disney - An Empire In Collapse

[@braxxian]

Disney turned me from a 40 year Star Wars fan into someone who didn't care anymore about that galaxy far far away. Good job.

[@TheMaleRei]

The EU endures. Do not forget...

[@Underworlder5]

i stopped spending money on it ever since TFA, but i still keep tabs on the IP, just in case...

[@alexandernorman5337]

@@Underworlder5 Same here. TFA was a decent movie - not good, but decent. It was a *very poor* start for a trilogy though. (Never make your villain out to be a p****! because you rely on him to built the threat over a series.) And I saw with TLJ that things were just going downhill from there.

[@senseishu937]

@@TheMaleRei exactly. And dave filoni's work on the prequel era and after the original trilogy has been doing good. That mandalorian arc from season 7 of clone wars was pure art.

[@ShifuCareaga]

If you're a true fan, stick to the real canon in the extended Universe. Disneywars is shit.

[@chasehedges6775]

Seeing Disney, the company/creator of both our childhoods and adulthoods, destroy itself is both depressing and saddening but utterly satisfying at the same time.

[@BottleBoundRogue]

This comment nailed it.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@BottleBoundRogue 👍👍👍

[@_kidtripp7772]

OH yeah! Makes me sad too but I love a woke corporation losing the culture war!

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

Adult hood? They never did anything when I was an adult.

[@XParasiteOctoling]

Should’ve made actual compelling stories rather than only focusing on agendas

[@rexlumontad5644]

Disney used to touch our hearts. Now they touch us inappropriately.

[@ReformedSauron]

Whack the pedo Mouse.

[@theonpointheavy4401]

@slick Nah, but they certainly are now.

[@tiran789]

just like drinker and tatiana

[@gokux75]

And call you a bigot when you complain.

[@oysterman2517]

Sad but true

[@amoeliono]

"Disney built by geniuses, inherited by idiots" -The Critical Drinker Well said, mate. Sadly. Well said.

[@Barb5001]

The idiots are the MAGA GOP

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

I don't even agree with that. Walt Disney was a Nazi boot licker and he basically ripped off the Nazi ideology to build Disney.

[@norefunds2417]

"Despite all my joking around, I don't want them to fail." That's where we differ. Disney's manipulation of copyright law has been enough for me to want them to fail for years. The fact that we now live in a world where nearly every one of my favourite movie IPs has been absorbed by their amoeba like form is frightening.

[@Victimesty]

But if they go under, the IPs are going down with them. Trapped in development purgatory forever.

[@ronwilliams9691]

@@Victimesty Maybe that's no bad thing...? Maybe this will really force investment into new creations?

[@Edge50199]

@@Victimesty I wish they do so we can get new IPs on the scene.

[@womenhavehivemind9043]

@@Victimesty Then some other companies will buy them Becoz disney will really need money and they have to sell those in discounts

[@norefunds2417]

@@Victimesty they would more likely sell the IPs they have been gobbling up to keep their own in house productions funded. Either solution is better than a future where every single thing is owned by Disney.

[@EastwoodEscape]

"Puss in Boots: the Last Wish" was a movie Disney wished it made. That was incredible. Universal crushed it on the animated front in 2022.

[@theIrishlad]

Very ironic that the company That was Made out of spite Towards Disney Is now above it

[@jacob4920]

Universal/Dreamworks will forever live off of the milk of the "Shrek" franchise! That IP will singlehandedly keep that company afloat, because all of it is just PURE BRILLIANCE!!

[@VanquishedAgain]

Universal does Despicable Me too, right? They're killing Disney

[@benoitloubens7691]

@@VanquishedAgain Despicable Me was made by Illumination

[@JohnSmith-gi2oy]

@@benoitloubens7691 does universal have any part in that at all

[@artamussumatra6286]

nuDisney’s 3 step strategy : 1)buy the Golden Goose for stupid amounts of money. 2) then immediately slaughter it. 3) be genuinely clueless as to why you’re not getting any golden eggs.

[@TheCriticalDrinker55Atnisgram]

DM ME 🎁🎁👆👆...

[@c6q3a24]

2a) Piss in your customers' faces.

[@kangsate3459]

EA strategy huh

[@anonony9081]

The problem I see with this is that everyone seems to still talk about Star wars and their shitty IPs. People are still watching this garbage and channels like this are proof of it because it seems like everyone in the comments, despite hating the product it's still paying for it and watching it

[@williamwoolf8072]

no its more like they brought the golden goose but they never bothered to learn how to raise it, what food it likes, how to discipline it so the golden goose didnt have the right conditions to lay those eggs. they still have the goose but now it only lays a egg like once every few decades

[@peterinbohol]

As someone who has a 4 year old boy living in the Philippines I have purchased all the old Disney classics. Bambi. Dumbo. Peter Pan. Etc. because I want him to see the world the way Walt Disney wanted kids to see it. Is to bad Disney has lost its way for both the company and the audience.

[@domoetker3967]

corrupt... and did you marry white man? What is his name?

[@pablo1835rigel]

I'm 28 and still own some VHS tapes and DVDs from Disney's golden age.

[@GustavoGplay]

Lucas buying back Lucasfilm at a discount and throwing everything Disney did in the trash is the first true happy thought I've had this week.

[@TheAmateurEditor]

I don't think it's possible though. The $4bil he got from Disney for the rights was set up as art fund/charity, so he can't use any of it to buy the rights back, and I doubt he has enough personal capital to liquidate or mortgage in order to finance a buy back. He would need a consortium to make a bid and chances are, Disney, out of sheer spite, would refuse to sell to him and instead accept any bid form literally anyone else, or hold on until he dies.

[@GustavoGplay]

@@TheAmateurEditor don't you dare ruin my happy thoughts lol

[@TheAmateurEditor]

@@GustavoGplay Personally I'd like to think someone would buy Star Wars without any Lucas involvement and then just make him the head of the creative team so that younger creators can bring his vision to the screen and carry on his legacy when he's gone.

[@RandoGrunt]

@@TheAmateurEditor No, because we've seeing a number of people that try to turn Star Wars in their own image. Not just Kathlyeen Kennedy, but even during the EU years there were several book writers that tried doing what she was doing. Even Filoni, Lucas' apprentice, frequently fought with his master over the direction of the CGI Clone Wars show over what to do.

[@lukestrawwalker]

@@RandoGrunt Well at some point George Lucas won't be with us anymore, and it'd be better for him to train a protege (or Padawan if you like) that actually loves and understands the material and the wishes of his master, than someone like KK who hates it all and wants to morph it to represent her own sick twisted view of the world. Meh never happen anyway. Say what you like about Filoni, but his stuff is the only thing that's keeping SW alive right now anyway, and they're doing their damnedest to stymie him...

[@rannochanno3268]

“I’m old enough to remember when Disney were the gold standard in animation” I feel that. Oh how time flies.

[@fireironthesecond2909]

Kinda glad to see Dreamworks getting the reputation it earns tho

[@adam1984pl]

That was 90s,when we were in elementary school.

[@davidlafleche1142]

MGM always topped Disney. Max Fleischer was better, too.

[@patrickstarfish420]

The hype of the new puss in boots is real. Just watched it a couple of days ago and I wanna rewatch it with friends. Its that good

[@cashewnuttel9054]

I just thought of a plot for Spider-Man 4. Jonathan Crane, yes the villain from Batman, owns a streaming service company, and realized during the pandemic that his profits skyrocketed, so he plans to create a deadly virus of his own and replicate the same effects of the previous pandemic, to keep his profits high. Spider-Man realizes that he can't take Jonathan Crane alone and teams up with Batman to stop his evil plans.

[@micktheman6]

As a kid everything they made I loved. Now its like saying goodbye to an old friend who just isn’t the same person you knew anymore.

[@SuperFanboy101]

That statement hit hard with me in so many levels.

[@tylerstravelsandmore]

This is so bittersweet

[@raypurchase801]

Imagining discovering your beloved uncle is a creepy pervert, with child-porn on his computer and little girls imprisoned as sex slaves in his basement. And you never knew until now. That's Disney today.

[@28daysleitor]

I too am an adult now.

[@katie7748]

Sucks but at least we have the old stuff to share with our children. Mine prefer the old stuff, including stuff made from before I was even born, over any of this new crap.

[@xminusone1]

It was awesome to have our kids during the Disney renaissance and go to the cinéma to see the new Disney movies. All of them had distinguishable artstyle and à good story to tell. My daughters liked Mulan and hercule the most and I had to bought the vhs twice because the cassettes were played so often that they gave up. When a new Disney movie came out in cinema, It was a very significant even that we wouldn't miss and even as adults, we loved the experiences. If you would have told me that Disney will became what it is today, I wouldn't have believed you but here we are. Edit: English isn't my language.

[@KeldorDAntrell]

There are so many wonderful classics made under the auspices of Disney and those who followed his mould for success. Especially excellent was the music and songs, and the cinematography and sophistication of the animation became stupendous e.g. Beauty and the Beast, Frozen. Even its live action movies like 20000 Leagues Under the Sea with James Mason and Kirk Douglas were reliable entertainment. Think of the music and songs from The Little Mermaid, The Rescuers, Jungle Book, Aladdin, Mary Poppins, The Lion King, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, even Pete's Dragon (Candle on the Water)...it was nothing short of wonderful. I think its success has made it so big and lucrative that the people who run it have had to become too distant from the products such that they have lost sight of how what they do has been so successful. I watched a stock market analyist explaining Disney's current strategy into the next few years and it illustrated the sheer enormity of the company; it is so vast that it has to have entire teams to handle each international block, and the units each one pushes (in many different areas e.g. theme parks and merchandising). The revenue streams are so numerous and so widespread that it takes computers to track it all and interpret the trends so that the sales analyists can know what is best to do i.e. continue this line, cut that line, etc. It reduces the whole operation to numbers, and individual products such as the Star Wars IP, become literally just another one of many. When this happens, it's no wonder that those right at the top lose sight of what matters to the consumers. How can an executive care about Star Wars fans' complaints about their perception of a 'lack of quality' when all that executive sees are numbers that show that it's making money? Star Wars was too great *not* to still make a huge profit even in the hands of an idiot like Kathy Kennedy. She could - and did - kill the 'golden goose' yet the executives haven't even noticed because, overall, Disney's profit is still immense, its revenue streams so numerous that a hole as big as the Titanic could be leaking money and those at the top wouldn't see it for a long, long, time.

[@user-br3fk8dx8o]

@@KeldorDAntrell yeah honestly this video does not do a good job of explaining the profit side of things, Disney remains hugely hugely profitable - Disney may be stagnating from a consumer POV (I agree a lot of movies produced by Disney recently has been absolute trash and does not compare to the golden era of Disney films... not even close) But business remains strong for the company, look at their recent annual report, making more money than the year before

[@ohgin12345]

Yes the 80s and 90s were just magical

[@Colonel_RamRod]

It’s funny that even tho English isn’t your first language we have very similar experiences with Disney. I remember rewatching little mermaid with my sister endlessly. Looking forward to the new Disney movie coming out and leaving the theatre with a good message and a story worth remembering shame how far they’ve fallen.

[@nahuelleandroarroyo]

Some "old" Disney movies hold extremely well even on this day, last year I rewatched Treasure Planet. The plot, the setting and the animation are mindblowing.

[@EvilDoresh]

That's back when Disney still had a _soul_

[@marcuslarsen296]

Treasure Planet is definitely one of the best Disney have made. I'd also like to mention Atlantis. I love that film

[@Brejan]

I know I'm in the minority, but I think the 80s were DIsney's best decade, creatively speaking. Live action and animation, they just made such memorable, original stuff. THe absolute anithesis of the bland, safe, franchise based approach today.

[@isvaraov]

Atlantis: The Lost Empire , great movie too. I watched again yesterday.

[@mannyfox8089]

100% - great animated movie with excellent themes (even beyond what’s offered in the Treasure Island novel)

[@thomasmoriarty9006]

Can we just take a moment to appreciate the Drinkers signature "go away now" overlaid against Scar pitching Mufassa off the cliff? Well done

[@andrewscasualmtb]

I laughed way too hard at that. 🤣🤣🤣

[@philliptivis3082]

Can I get someone to make that video: the full scene with Drinkers "go away now" dubbed over Scar's "long live the king?"

[@AttemptedVoices]

You know the Drinker is a genius when he puts that in there.

[@JaguarPaw1]

absolutely loved the ending lol

[@DiegoTan66]

congrats, u have eyes

[@bumble-bee189]

Disney has recently done something that the ABBA group refused to do at the time Once a member and producer of the band ABBA Benny Andersson was asked in an interview , " You are a mega popular band , a very huge number of people listen to you - why don 't you raise important issues such as political and social in your texts ?" to which he directly replied , " As soon as we start singing about political and social topics , a huge part of our audience will stop listening to us - that 's why we sing only about good and love , and EVERYONE likes it "

[@adamgates1142]

What are the politics of The Lion King (90s)?

[@Bubben246]

@@adamgates1142 Fratricide for political gain is bad, mmkay?

[@Ou_phrontis]

Like what Michael Jordan said, “Republicans buy sneakers too.”

[@janbaer3241]

@@adamgates1142 Both Scar and Simba are evil. One is Hitler, the other is Charles Manson.

[@Yggdraseed]

You can make good, entertaining art that's "political" insofar as it tackles touchy real-life subjects. Entertainment factor aside, it's hard to make art that means something without taking some sort of stance on issues people care about. You've got to be able to see things from different perspectives and say something that people will care about for it to really stick with you. I've listened to ABBA's music, and it's fine - but when I listen to a song with a message that really means something to me, like All Along the Watchtower or The Times They Are A-Changin', that's one that I can never get tired of and will often wind up on my mind even when it doesn't come on the radio or cross my KZbin recommendations. The problem with making that kind of art is that you've got to be curious, open-minded, empathetic, and a little bit more subtle than a sledgehammer. It's not the politics that are bad with most of Disney's movies or shows, it's that they're made by incurious, insulated, selfish hacks who aren't that good at what they're doing and have very little interest in emotionally engaging with the subjects they're writing about. They want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to tackle a political message and have the smug satisfaction of thinking they wrote something mature and groundbreaking, but they don't want to expose themselves to the vulnerability and hard questions that comes with true art. So instead, they just make obnoxious wish-fulfillment fluff that doesn't satisfy the people who really care about the message and just irritates the people who don't care about the message. Or they make Velma. And you should never, ever make Velma. Remember: friends don't let friends make Velma. Pass it on.

[@samuraicupcake289]

The "go away now" was perfectly timed with the Scar kills Mufasa scene 👌

[@carlosnieves5093]

Disney's animated run from 1989- 1999 was absolute magic. Finishing strong with Tarzan. Interesting enough that run ran for 10 years, like the build up and crescendo of the MCU.

[@hulkfan97]

Yeah bit we also got Lilo and Stitch an underrated flick imo

[@jacob4920]

Now why couldn't STAR WARS have a run like that under Disney?!!? Why do MY IP's have to suffer??!?! 🤬

[@jamiecollins7915]

it basically lasted a whole generation, fitting that.

[@CourtTV.]

w0w

[@liricz813]

and pixar 1995-2010 too finished with toy story 3

[@jameskennethflynn]

Disney has ruined itself. The love that it had from so many people has turned to indifference at best and absolutely loathing at worst. They have spoiled the magic, and that truly is a sad thing that people really lament and can't forgive.

[@robvog8134]

Its just a reflection of the sad moral and intellectual state of America.

[@Dingo500]

"they have spoiled the magic". So true!

[@jangofett9083]

i feel bad for walt disney. this is definitely not what he dreamed for disney to become after his death

[@johnwolf2829]

@@jangofett9083 The creatures running Disney now would have HATED that man.... indeed, they appear to have everyone and every idea that came along before them. Murdering the past is what radical fanatics are compelled to do, be they ISIS, Communists or art critics.

[@BladeMasterIcarus]

@@jangofett9083 in some ways it possibly did become what walt disney wanted after his death for a time. its just every dream eventually has to come to an end

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Disney is the embodiment of "Congratulations, you've played yourself!"

[@crevomon6041]

@chad007. Are you a bot or something too? you keep commenting the same comment on everyone else's comment.

[@trolleriffic]

@@crevomon6041 They're all bots. Either that or controlled by people in the developing world who get paid so little for this shit that it's not even worth getting a bot to do it.

[@PerversePoster]

I read this quote the other day that I think sums up Disney perfectly - "When pushing an agenda takes priority over telling a story you have a problem."

[@YutubeBansALot]

@DmOnNicgrmTheCriticalDrinker11 Time to expose these alphabetically indoctrinated freaks…Kids eating rainbows candy and GMO cereals…and some wonder how the alphabetical cancer spreads!! Chemical in food in the sky and the water…and the Ideological grooming by Disney

[@michaelking1770]

Satisfying Larry Fink and boosting their ESG score is their only goal

[@chingma8064]

@@michaelking1770 So the esg won't let me be, let's cut them down on MTV!

[@steveclark5206]

Years ago we took our kids to Disney World, because that was what you did. Once my youngest was old enough to go on all the rides we asked if they wanted to go back. They said “no thanks, it wasn’t that fun the first time.” Instead they asked if we could go on a cruise (not a Disney one). For the price of one week at DW we were able to go on two 10-day cruises in both the eastern and western Caribbean. My wife and I grew up on Disney shows like the Mickey Mouse Club, etc. but our daughters and their friends have no such ties or loyalty to Disney, which doesn’t bode well for the brand especially with the trash they’ve been putting out lately.

[@debanydoombringer1385]

My kids are adults now and absolutely cherish their memories of Disney World trips. We did 3. They aren't interested in going back because everything that made it great is now extra costs instead of part of the experience. All the little perks were what made it worth the money. The magic is gone.

[@nobodyshome6792]

My granddaughters would rather go to Bush Gardens or Kings Dominion instead of Disney World.

[@Soldano999]

@@debanydoombringer1385 it's mostly parents who drag their kids to disney. Once kids discover anime it's over.

[@karami8844]

@@debanydoombringer1385 I agree, the magic is gone. I recently went to Disneyland and the experience was just...blah. Everything was super expensive and that just killed it for me.

[@Quaaludio]

@@Soldano999 The last thing most kids need is anime...there is some good anime, don't get me wrong, but a huge amount of it is exploitative and sends terrible messages to young people.

[@CornbreadOracle]

I’m old enough to remember when Disney was not only the gold standard in animation, they were essentially the only game in town. Not only that, The Wonderful World of Disney came on broadcast tv every Sunday night and it was appointment TV for most American families. My how the mighty have fallen.

[@Natta44]

Disney suffocated other animation studios back then. I loved some of the stuff from dreamworks. When pixar was just rising Disney bought them. Disney is a leech.

[@ct-1177]

@@Natta44 is it a sin to enjoy something from Disney according to you?

[@Yupstate845]

What are you high as if most American families sat down unison to watch a animated Disney show pass the crackpipe lad

[@evertonporter7887]

Here in the UK, we never watched any Disney cartoons as children. It was all Hanna-Barbera and WB, and Irvin Allen back then, along with a lot of Jerry Anderson shows like Thunderbirds and Captain Scarlet.

[@samipersun9995]

And while they practically were monopolist they didn’t say ‘f it, people’ll eat any shit we spew’, they actually produced the top quality content and took great pride in their creations. It took a lot of time and effort though and can’t be sustainable in their currently established business model of amount of content over its quality

[@connorchenery977]

Watching Disney slowly fall apart over the last few years has been more entertaining than anything on their streaming platform.

[@gokux75]

I normally don't care for Hollywood and celebrity news. However seeing Disney suffer does put a smile on my face.

[@Channel24377]

@@gokux75 why though?

[@macd7743]

Except Home Alone and Home Alone 2: Lost in New York, right? 😀

[@swimfan6292]

Star wars rebels wasn't bad...

[@billr3053]

Didn’t you mean “steaming platform”?

[@danilshirnin2406]

On the theme park front there is also something else to consider: Over the years disney has made the costs of their theme park packages more expensive while simultaneously cutting out what you paid for. For example in the past the shuttle service from a resort/hotel to disney would be part of your package but now has been cut out and you now have to pay for that like a fare fee, but your price for the entire package itself still has gone up for whatever reasons. So in essence you pay more money for less services. And in the current day and age when people don’t have money to swim in unless youre bezos that kind of price gouging makes more people decide to spend their money elsewhere

[@kittenluvzu]

There's now a fare fee, wow. Disney's gotta make up all that money they lost by turning on traditional family values.

[@bvanderford]

They pander to the rich. It’s how it is today

[@erindunn6689]

These days Disney as a company has become the living embodiment of the phrase “The bigger they are, the harder they fall.”

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Square cube law: The bigger an entity is, the slower it is and the more energy it takes to move.

[@Jubejabba]

Twice the pride, double the fall

[@noriega1310]

As well as ¨Go woke, go broke¨

[@shaunk6822]

Too big, too fail

[@charlestonjew7587]

I like "The bigger they are, the harder they fail."

[@e_r4hman183]

Looking at Disney now is like watching your close friend get slowly corrupted by drugs

[@georgegarcia3182]

Hard but true.

[@ImpKnt80]

More like a friend falling into a hate soaked anti white doomsday death cult that worships Evil, malign narcissistic parasites that it hopes will bring death to humanity and the world just so it can ruin over the ashes of all that is good in this world and live out its sick demented fantasies over the tattered remnants of its diseased “ideals” and make its hivemind feel better about marinating in its own degenerate filth.

[@natebellville3621]

Every time a person boycotts Disney, an angel gains its wings

[@Kylesb]

@Aquatic Ape I would think so…I know cherubim, seraphim, & nephilim are mentioned in the Old Testament. There’s also the angels that were stationed at the garden of Eden.

[@beestoe993]

I'm stealing that one! ;)

[@bighillraft]

@@aquaticape2273 yes so do Muslims

[@nay4658]

Lastr time i paid for a Disney product was for the force awakens in theater. My house is literally an angel airport.

[@gavincurtis]

Where are we supposed to put all these angels? So many…

[@swimant0]

The real issue is this. Disney has lost Walt’s vision for what Disney was supposed to be. They are suffering from a severe case of vision drift.

[@JaminTaylor]

Your 11+ minute video was far more entertaining than anything Disney has put out in many many years.

[@richardziolkowski7246]

Andor was really good but otherwise yeah

[@XZ-III]

@@richardziolkowski7246 andor was just alright at best

[@jamescarr1265]

@@richardziolkowski7246true

[@JohnSmith-gu6hf]

@@richardziolkowski7246 Yes. But how many traditional star wars icons where actually in the show?

[@LetralXIV]

I am the 666th person to like your comment. I own your account's soul now.

[@terpytimmm4044]

Jeremy Renner jumping in front of that snowplow to save his nephew would have been the best Disney movie in years

[@bobdouglass8010]

Walt bet everything he had, including his house, and worked his animators to exhaustion to get Snow White made. It was the most successful movie of all time upon release. Most people had never seen multi-plane animation and didn't even realize why it looked so good. The primary animators were all given offers by other studios but every one of them stayed at Disney working directly for Walt until death did them part. A man like Walt Disney comes along once every 100 years, so I don't expect Robert Iger to inspire that kind of loyalty, but how depressing would it be to work at Disney these days, and care about what you're working on, and hear that Iger is coming back again?

[@c3bhm]

Walt Disney had a serious problem with a certain group, and now that group owns/runs Disney. But no, let's not talk about any of that.

[@SirBlackReeds]

@@c3bhm He didn't. He had Jewish employees. Frankly, regurgitating Nick Fuentes's bile just makes you look silly. There's a global conspiracy unraveling, but it's not a Jewish one.

[@sew_gal7340]

@@c3bhm Most ppl dont care about that, just like coco chanel also was "that person" but the clothing brand is still the largest in the world. I personally dont care about walts beliefs , hes still a genius and every genius in history was controversial and devilish

[@metallica520771]

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Literally .

[@tommerker8063]

@@c3bhm yeah but most people disliked that certain group during his time. you realy can't judge historic people behaviour by modern standarts

[@robertroskovic3693]

When I was a teenager in the 80s there were so many good movies to see ,we were so spoilt. Now I just can't be bothered watching content with no creativity and no heart.Disney deserves to go through the process of a reset to bring us what we deserve ,good stories told with creativity.

[@mechajay3358]

Disney's Civil War has been the most entertaining thing the company has put out in a while.

[@cynthiajohnson9412]

Hard to believe they got so arrogant as to look the gift horse that was the state of Florida in the mouth over hype about legislation that was based on a lie. What did they think was gonna happen when the went to bat over a bill to protect sex chatting up children?

[@joaoklein1002]

Ego destroys everything.

[@MAGAMAN]

It's not a civil war, it's suicide.

[@ImTheKingOfHyrule]

And then on the sidelines you have all the burned out fans who want to see stuff actually be good again, and then across from them you have the fairy dusters who want Disney to double down on everything stupid they've done for the last 10 years.

[@judgedrekk2981]

@@ImTheKingOfHyrule good again? that assumes I'd ever waste my money on the mouse again....I WON'T! I hope Disney goes tits up! i hope they go tits up and that their assets get auctioned off.....

[@Vaampe]

While sad to see these legendary companies crumble, we have to remember they did it to themselves. We tried, but they kept hating on their largest demographic.

[@CleveIndians]

Spot on!!

[@lukestrawwalker]

Hating everybody while lecturing them on how bad they are and calling them names all to appease a tiny fractional minority of the employees and even smaller number of customers or fans isn't a recipe for success... Gee I wonder why they're in the boat they're in??? Hmmm....

[@TiredOfImbecileLibtards]

@@lukestrawwalker very true Disney did it to themselves. Now they deserve to suffer for their stupid way of thinking.

[@MCOlangotang]

They aren't just hating their "largest demographic" (which I assume you mean white conservatives; not the case anymore). They are pissing off virtually everyone who isn't an obsessed Twitter user. For those who care about the company at least. Trust me, the Disney hate is coming from all sides. The heart, soul, and creativity are gone.

[@daleviker5884]

@@MCOlangotang I took the "largest demographic" to mean people of all types who used to go to movies to be entertained. Not lectured at by minority groups pushing alphabet lifestyles and communism. The "largest demographic" is much more than just white conservatives.

[@tcabroncos18]

At first it was sad to watch them tear down everything that I liked as a kid, but in the end it’s liberating and hilarious to watch them crumble.

[@jdavidpeacock3369]

Amen! Political correctness is the mass destroyer.

[@Will-hy9nv]

Same gives me the warm and fuzzies watching bow before woke activists only to watch the walls crumble around them while they sit there confused on why.

[@sXe94core]

Y’all are mentally and emotionally stunted

[@jerrylouis8930]

The thirty year-old women finally have something to get into Star Wars about-ask them about the themes of generational trauma and processing grief and delusions.

[@Will-hy9nv]

@@sXe94core stunted because we like to see people get their comeuppance from forcing garbage down people's throats and then using slurs against anyone that does not praise the show as ground breaking? If so I am stunted as hell. Good day to ya!

[@DreckbobBratpfanne]

Genuine question... How can a not photorealistic 3D animated movie cost 200 million to make? They could hire 1000 of the best artists on the planet for like 200K a year for that and probably produce the most beautiful 2D animated piece of cinema of all time with every frame handdrawn.

[@bluepterosaur]

It’s complicated complex corporate nonsense that makes it all more expensive

[@DeaconPain]

Embezzlement, bloated salaries, resource mismanagement.

[@cherrylerry187]

Disney might have been the biggest childhood memory for many people, but it's good seeing them finally experience the consequences of their actions

[@chasehedges6775]

They’re getting what they deserve

[@Bingo_the_Pug]

The people in charge need to go. Recasting all of their classic princesses into black actresses just to please the Twitter mob is almost like a form of reverse-racism

[@FreedomAndPeaceOnly]

This is why people should know who the *'r°tards'* are in the culturewar and which side is the true, morally superior NORM.

[@rdhunkins]

The South Park representation of Disney as a malevolent representation of Mickey Mouse is spot on satire.

[@TruthTellert63]

@@Bingo_the_Pug Correct. It's racism, pure & simple. (It's also "cultural appropriation." When leftists started using that term a few years ago, they were stating WHAT THEY WERE GOING to do -- not what had been done. Textbook communist tactic.)

[@parthenonx2697]

No one credits Avatar to Disney. Everyone credits that to James Cameron. Another note worthy distinction.

[@vladprus4019]

Especially since it aws in production way before Disney had actual plans to buy 20th Century Fox and that just happened to be part of it. It was essentialy an accidental gain for Disney, not the one designed by them

[@gustaf3811]

It's nothing more than road bumps really, there is no indication that Disney is loosing much ground. There was a pandemic that has made the productions struggle to begin with. Secondly they had problems with hulu from the start, it just wasn't a good investment. That's far from it failling as a company and brand, it's still one of the largest and most sucessfull on the planet.

[@TheNerdsFromHell]

That's because they are fetish films for Furries

[@Jsa460]

Haha yeah. Cameron has a track record of making high grossing films on his own terms. No one for a second believes it was Disney rather than Cameron as the creative force behind this being a success.

[@Hjerte_Verke]

@@gustaf3811 Please keep posting this same paragraph everywhere you go Botgustaf, it is not annoying at all

[@hilarywade687]

So glad you posted the Cinderella dress transformation from the 1950 film. What a piece of animation that is. The magic star cascade was effectively drawn as a separate character from Cinderella, and the 24 or so individual cells were on display in the Wallace Collection last year. A truly staggering piece of work.

[@bob1986]

Fun fact, Walt Disney himself admittedly didn't care much for Cinderella when it was being worked on, because he just saw it as another take on Snow White which he already considered their best work and something that couldn't be topped. And even he was blown away when they showed him that bit of animation and said it was the most impressive work in animation he'd ever seen at the time.

[@clogs4956]

@@bob1986 and it still is one of the best.

[@kwazhims3lf]

i fcukin love cinderella

[@josepablolunasanchez1283]

Yeonmi Park is a real world Cinderella. Her transformation was spectacular. I feel happy when I see her thriving after what she went through.

[@kyleshockley1573]

Yeah, but who cares about any of that when you can toss everything from that past into the garbage in order to make profits in the here and now. And by that, I mean hypothetical and diminishing profits, which rely on and leech off of the inertia from a world that the current business model actively dismantled. The Lord Humongous corporate portfolio.

[@PetiHuber]

I miss 90s early 2000s of Disney. Hercules, Treasure planet, Lilo and Stitch. Man, I miss those kind of movies 😔

[@josem588]

2012 was the last year Disney released a good movie (it was wreck it Ralph)

[@helxis]

I'm really happy that my childhood occurred during Disney's best years. But it is so sad to see them fall apart as an adult.

[@salinium]

Like seeing a beloved grandparent slip into senility...

[@jahnkaplank8626]

and that is exactly why the next generation under my influence won't even KNOW disney; they'll never set foot in a disney park on my dime or on my watch. Those days are OVER.

[@mkultra2456]

Walt Disney was a pedophile.

[@chasehedges6775]

Disney: “WE CREATE LIFE…. And we destroy it.”

[@charleshetrick3152]

Ferngully was pretty bad though.

[@hybrid9mm]

“It’s dumb but it’s the world we live in unfortunately” this thought crosses my mind on a daily basis.

[@chasehedges6775]

Sooooo true

[@512TheWolf512]

That's a very bad mindset. It's defeatist. You must FIGHT AGAINST IT instead.

[@hybrid9mm]

@@512TheWolf512 it’s not my mind set it’s just a sad but true passing thought when observing the modern world we live in. I personally like to always move forwards in life and just live.

[@tylerdyrdan3005]

“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” Disney now.

[@chasehedges6775]

The most accurate truth

[@hemantks4353]

Said by a Warner Bros movie

[@keyscored3710]

was disney ever really heroic?

[@NormanReaddis]

Well Disney is gone so it was handled by people that don't know its own origins.

[@cc0767]

Disney, gold standard in animated storytelling. Miyazaki: And I took that personally!

[@alaba.altheus810]

Hayao Miyazaki? Studio Gibli?

[@ericleal157]

Miyazaki? The dark souls guy?

[@jedimasterdraco6950]

Of course Disney is only the Gold Standard. Everyone knows in the modern ranking that Platinum is higher than Gold. Joking aside, I do agree that Miyazaki's storytelling quality is a step above Disney even at their peak. But, Japanese animation was for a long time considered to be more niche in the Western world and Disney held the crown in large part because the general public didn't know about Miyazaki. Fortunately, a number of successful anime have exposed the genre to a wider audience so it's becoming more mainstream. All I can say is thank God that it's based in Japan and therefore hopefully immune to the distorting effect of certain groups here in the US.

[@JamesWebb-x7f]

I was about to ask him which Miyazaki

[@y2jjerichoy2js]

The problem is once you get as big and powerful and wealthy as Disney you reach a point where you believe you are invincible and have no reason to change or improve . But if Rome could fall apart , so can Disney .

[@fattiger6957]

Disney needs to be reminded that they almost went bankrupt in the 80s. What saved them was making good movies that audiences wanted to see. Unfortunately the concept of making good products and pleasing audiences is too much for modern Hollywood.

[@romibengali]

And the British empire.

[@unlimitedrabbit]

Foundations of Rome by Arcane Wonders is a fun little massive board game. Forsake movies from studios that hate you. Go tabletop. 🎲♟️

[@chasehedges6775]

@@fattiger6957 Just sad what’s happening to entertainment nowadays

[@chasehedges6775]

Disney definitely is getting its karma

[@adityaunnava4304]

Big corpos losing millions does put a smile on my face.

[@Not-important-123]

Yeah, but i dont want any genuine hard working employees to suffer because of it, regardless if the big corporation is good or bad

[@MrLookatmyhat]

The issue is that they don't actually care about the money. It's the same old tear everything down and do as much damage as possible before the roof falls down then scatter to ruin something else leftist clap trap.

[@bastadimasta]

Companies don't really care. Those who print money out of nothing will print more and give it directly to companies like Disney to further their agenda.

[@Juggs009]

Not gonna phase most of them tbh, since a lot of the big wigs holding the strings in these corpos are just working together and bailing each other out from any kind of moral consequence.

[@erickariuki6842]

They made a 22 percent profit jump

[@krism.6598]

Michael Eisner said in the early 90’s that people would go to a theater to watch an hour of blank film as long as it had the Disney logo at the start. Now in the 2020’s that hour of blank film is probably better than the last five movies Disney has made.

[@anathema2me4EVR]

(((Eisner)))

[@NucleaRaptor]

Eisner was probably the last good CEO Disney had.

[@khfan4life365]

At least Eisner was honest. He wanted to make good films because that meant money for the company. He understood people wanted to be entertained, not preached to.

[@redphantom6921]

I'm at least glad DreamWorks is still making great films. They seem to have learned from their competitors shortcomings and for the most part, have stayed the hell away from the poisoned waters of wokeness. Sure not every movie they produce is great, but when they're good they are golden.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

@@NucleaRaptor Idk, he was pretty controversial. It is true that he saved the company from bankruptcy with the Disney Renaissance, but he's also the one who made Disney focus more on brands than artistic values, two things that Walt Disney was always able to keep balanced. He kept creating more divisions within the company to expand each IP Disney had made during the 90's like direct-to-video sequels, Broadway musicals, theme park ventures, resorts, Disney Channel content etc. Iger isn't much different from Eisner tbh. The only difference is how he deals with competition. By buying it. Other than that, he essentially has the same policy as Eisner. Only instead of DTV sequels and Broadway musicals, he focuses on live-action remakes. Funny thing is, Walt Disney absolutely hated the idea of his works having sequels or remakes. Either way, both Eisner and Iger are guilty of turning Disney into a brand.

[@edward.abraham]

MSFT down 40k, AAPL down 35k, Draft Kings down 6k, DIS down 15K, AMZN down 8k, and my wife doesn’t know. I'm just hanging on to Jim Cramer's words about opportunities in volatile times so perhaps, I either wait for a recovery or pick profitable investments to substitute for my loss.

[@james.atkins88]

Same boat man, lost $270k in trading this pass year, regret a lot and have not told my wife.

[@hunter-bourke21]

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[@Kim.beneteau]

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[@hunter-bourke21]

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[@Kim.beneteau]

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[@joshg.6315]

Synching your classic “Go away now!” with Scar tossing Mufasa off of the cliff is S tier editing 😂

[@aahzmandiaz2767]

He could used The Sparta clip from 300, too.

[@Mikauo_Xblade]

@@aahzmandiaz2767 Considering this is Disney themed, the lion king was the best choice.

[@greencertifiedweb]

I had actually looked away just before that... Thanks for mentioning it. I rewatched and was rewarded justly!

[@aahzmandiaz2767]

@@Mikauo_Xblade I forgot to say "... for other videos in the future." I thought that would be clear, that it can and should not be changed in a existing video. But I expected too much. As usual. I apologize.

[@Youtuber24683]

Seeing all of that beautiful traditional animation at the beginning hit my heart like a rock. That combined with several childhood movie theaters closing almost makes me want to cry. Even Disney's earlier 3D works (Bolt, Zootopia, Tangled, etc.) had more heart than today's "modern features".

[@JohnSmith-gu6hf]

Would Tangled be made that way today today? Would Disney change the message and the way the female protagonist is portrayed? Cinderella? Snow White?

[@Youtuber24683]

@@JohnSmith-gu6hf IMO “Tangled” was handled extremely well. Rapunzel’s character tweaks aren’t overbearing and Mary Sue-ish, the story additions are blended in naturally, and in the end the male protagonist ultimately saves the girl. Also, in regards of “if it was made today”, I’m fairly certain the results would be lackluster. Disney’s creative juices and heart are running on empty.

[@henrythef1guy768]

You are a Bolt enjoyer? You actually care about that movie in spite of probably thinking Disney was killing Pixar? (The first guy I heard say that also essentially said that no one cares about Bolt)

[@Youtuber24683]

@@henrythef1guy768 I’m not a “super fan” of Bolt. I just think it’s a solid movie, as it had heart and - as a rarity - I didn’t know how it was exactly going to end. Sure, Bolt and the other pets being adopted was a given. But I couldn’t make a solid guess how up until the climax.

[@henrythef1guy768]

You think that Disney killed Pixar?

[@racheldeschaine]

The clip of Henry Cavill saying “fuck” will never get old. He delivers it so perfectly and it just encapsulates the feeling of being absolutely over it and not at all surprised

[@vesuvius1318]

It was at the very beginning of the Witcher series, and he already had enough of the sh1t the writers did to the source material :D

[@shaminoranger8588]

At 5:58

[@lino222]

@slick7310 thx

[@Swango42]

finishing the "go away now" with scar throwing mufasa made me chuckle a bit

[@Rishi123456789]

Hearing about the misfortunes of Disney is bringing great joy to my heart.

[@Noplayster13]

I’m a little torn myself. Grew up during the Disney renaissance. Everything they made was a masterpiece all the way until I was in college. But yeah, they either need to go through a massive cultural revolution (not the Chinese kind) or they need to go the way of Standard Oil.

[@CommanderTato]

@@Noplayster13 they chinese kind is the only way, need a lot of cleansing the west in general.

[@scottmantooth8785]

*a self perpetuating musical*

[@shcdemolisher]

Like EA. You laugh at their pain.

[@dracvich]

Like music to my ears

[@JIreland1992]

This is why I don’t panic when companies buy up so many companies. The one thing that kills every empire is they become too big to manage.

[@valutaatoaofunknownelement197]

Example: Ancient Rome. Though that's not a company, it did partially collapse due to infighting from being too large.

[@rorymilne862]

‘Too big to fail’

[@foxboy6145]

Some say they're too big to fail. I say they fail BECAUSE they get too big. The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

[@notaraven]

The problem with the buy up of multiple companies is when the company effectively locks out new businesses making themselves a despot of a specific good or when their collapse will literally tank the entire economy. This is why the government should be willing to step in to stop or break up monopolies.

[@bennettsilverstein1487]

@@valutaatoaofunknownelement197 and tho it’s not a company look at the us in general

[@cloudshines812]

During one of my college courses, I got the opportunity to meet with a former animator of Pixar. She was responsible for some of the animated sequences in A Bug’s Life, TS2, Monsters Inc, and Finding Nemo (famously she animated Dory singing “Just keep swimming”). She worked on animation for some of Disney’s theme park attractions and currently she’s resigned to work on the new Star Wars hotel coming in 2024. When she was asked about Disney’s IP and empire for their target audience… she didn’t respond but stayed silent with a cold blank stare on her face for a second. In that brief moment… I could just practically tell how much Disney is financially failing, that her hard efforts to make some neat attractions almost come pointless under Disney’s abusive umbrella to just lazily cash in on their complete bankruptcy.

[@papalaz4444244]

What course was it? "Advanced Pathological Lying and Wanking"?

[@cloudshines812]

@@papalaz4444244 For your information. It was an animation class. Maybe be a bit respectful troll.

[@KABLAMMATS]

@@papalaz4444244 no cap bro fr fr

[@chasehedges6775]

What a story

[@FMK03]

@@chasehedges6775 Can you “enlighten” us with a better life story?

[@Hxn1027]

Just found your channel 6 minutes and 57 seconds ago. I subscribed as a result of this part of your video. 6:57 that's really all it took for me.

[@JasonAWilliams-IS]

Scar throwing Mufasa off the cliff as Drinker said, "go away now" was great.

[@andrewscasualmtb]

It was the perfect sendoff. Hahaha

[@_Cato_]

It’s just shocking that catering to an incredibly vocal, incredibly woke, and incredibly *small* minority of people was not a sound business strategy. Truly, I am befuddled.

[@fattiger6957]

You forgot that those people Disney is catering to are broke and don't buy anything other than blue hair dye and $15 soy lattes.

[@hope-cat4894]

They overestimated how popular the politics were. They were popular at first, but everything is collapsing due to political infighting, narcissistss masquerading as activists, and unrealistic expectations. It was just too unstable.

[@lonewolf9578]

As am I, it truly boggles the mind /j

[@benbenitez2945]

What is woke? A small minority that’s doing what?

[@veramae4098]

I'd rather be awake and aware of problems, than a Trump sheep.

[@micahthomas705]

It's more like the poster of the kitten hanging from the branch, with the slogan "hang in there." But the kitten is evil and only lives to exploit our childhood.

[@GmanZer0]

"An empire toppled by its enemies can rise again. But one which crumbles from within? That's dead....forever"- Helmut Zemo

[@shawnm1902]

Everything burns

[@thehorseman1806]

R u referring to Disney or America?

[@khairiirfan102]

Like rome idiots being idiots then the angry goths(us customers) rise up and tore them appart

[@simonpetrikov3992]

@@thehorseman1806 both

[@Tevildo]

One thing this video illustrates perfectly is how much was lost to the world when Hollywood stopped making 2D animated features.

[@Brejan]

Films like Wolfwalkers (which totally shoud have gotten the Oscar instead of the mediocre Soul) and The Spine of the Night prove just how much was lost when the big studios went all into that generic 3D look. At least now films like The Last Wish are finally starting to bring some originality into that 3D landscape.

[@nebulous9280]

Generally I've been finding that 2D animations have way more soul than 3D. A personal favorite of mine that came out (relatively) recently is Klaus, a Christmas movie. The animation is GORGEOUS and blurs the line between 2D and 3D so well that it makes you forget that it's 2D.

[@Tevildo]

@@nebulous9280 I liked _Klaus,_ but I'd still not characterize it as 2D. It's hand-drawn 3D, with a great deal of computer assistance. What we're missing are animated drawings, as opposed to models, be they CGI, hand-drawn, or stop-motion - something that doesn't _try_ and look realistic.

[@mikedangerdoes]

I don't know if it's as simple as the 2D vs 3D debate. There's been plenty of stinkers that were hand drawn, and heaps of great 3D productions over the years, so I'm not sure why some get more care than others. That said, I do miss the 2D animation style, and wish there were a few more of them. Hand drawn obviously lends itself towards a bit more care and effort on behalf of the creators, so their strike rate seems to be a bit higher.

[@randyquaid3381]

Treasure planet kicks ass and I believe it's the last movie they made that has that classic look

[@chazzerine7650]

2:55 that poster looks like something I'd find at my local children's theatre, not something made by a multi billion dollar company that invested hundreds of millions of dollars.

[@pannonianfit1582]

James Bond said it best in Tomorrow never Dies "You forgot the first rule of mass media, Elliot: give the people what they want."

[@balung]

Give the Majority of people what they want, not the Alphabet minority.

[@jasonzacharias2150]

And now Bond is out there pushing covis 23 narratives and silently snuffing people critical of government and protecting the captain planet Dr evil level villains pushing poison, deception, and easy death

[@pannonianfit1582]

@@jasonzacharias2150 sometimes you live long enough to become a villain

[@larrybruce4856]

And the majority does NOT WANT: CRT, IDENTITY PRONOUNS, BLM, OR "WOKE" . Disney has ruined "Splash Mountain" by restructuring the theme to appease a small minority to be '"politically correct" in their own minds. Stop with the bully- racism BS and get back to what Walt Disney envisioned.

[@MakeYouFeelBetterNow]

Arnold said it first in The Running Man, lol.

[@Dosnmeda]

Interestingly Avatar The Way of Water has been the most "Disney" movie I have seen in a while, with its focus on family values and universal appeal. It resonates with all kinds of audiences - the very foundation of the House of Mouse. It also goes against the current streaming trends. James Cameron simply delivered a movie that has to be experienced in theatres and this is why people go see it again and again.

[@silverletter4551]

I hate the concept of Avatar. Woke inane boring ugly rubbish existing to emotionally manipulate people by tying the ugly blue aliens into the cryfest over native American past atrocities.

[@emhu2594]

I'm not watching a 3+ hour movie. Screw avatar

[@mattstorm6568]

People ses it again and again cuz they have no life.

[@KABLAMMATS]

@@mattstorm6568 they have blue alien fetish

[@SeSeReRfRf]

@@emhu2594 Nor am I watching a film made by a man who thinks masculinity is toxic

[@ClarkKentai]

Using Scar throwing Mufasa as the "Go away now." I'll never actually separate the line from the movie in my head now, but I'm okay with that.

[@TheWickedWizardOfOz1]

Critical Drinker should have played Scar in the "Live action" remake. He would have made it a lot more fun. And if he was in the role, maybe they would have kept "Be Prepared," the best song in the original movie.

[@inclement_weathr5564]

Hahahahaha Mufasa: “SCARR, BROTHERR, HELP ME! Scar: “GOE AWAE NUOW” Both: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@etc115]

Ah Drinker, I salute you. The world needs real critics and commentators like you not walking and talking jokes with 0 idea or understanding of audiences, storytelling and movies like say, Grace Randolph. Keep up the good work. Following you since 2017/18 and happy to see you stayed true to yourself and landed that big interview with Russel Crowe

[@AmmyNoUzume]

I really miss the classic animated Disney. So depressing to think about how low they've sunk.

[@jerrylouis8930]

Have any scripts? You can study screenwriting and give it a go-we always need great talents.

[@CelltheGREAT]

Go woke, go broke.

[@jerrylouis8930]

@@CelltheGREAT You can study screenwriting, too. There is Room for everyone in Hollywood. If Hollywood goes down, all the movies will come from Beijing.

[@AmmyNoUzume]

@@c7042-u5g Good idea. I'd feel like I was making a shrine as old Disney was so enchanting compared to recent. Still great idea and I love the idea.

[@CelltheGREAT]

@@c7042-u5g 👏🏾👏🏾👌🏾A man of culture.

[@jamesforbes5616]

"The only thing investors hate more than bad publicity is a bad quarterly statement" - Avatar. Love or hate the movie, it was a very true statement.

[@damiantirado9616]

@Tsunzucchini TzatzikiSan go anti woke go broke. Just like trump went broke and all conservative films go broke

[@kathi3093]

@tsunzucchinitzatzikisan2246 aren‘ t there like 3 other presidents beside him this millenium? Lol

[@WhoFramedMSG]

@Tsunzucchini TzatzikiSan inject disinfectants to cure COVID. Yaaaaaa ok

[@zillauniverse7208]

Funny How Puss In Boots 2 already managed to make more money than all of Disney animated films released in the same year, that’s what happens when you focus more on making a good movie that everyone like instead of pushing “The Message.”

[@jpblauvelt]

I agree with every word. Ya sot! It’s really difficult to watch the slow demise of an iconic company. Disneyland was my childhood as were the animated masterpieces produced. As you point out Marvel started out with promise but it too is burdened my lack of imagination and just gluing together bits and pieces of comic books. And don’t get me started on Star Wars 😢

[@rejvaik00]

Man I went from loving Disney as a kid to absolutely hating them as an adult And Disney only has themselves to blame because everything else I still loved as a kid I still like now all grown up

[@Yulia_Eromon]

Disney used to touch our hearts but now they touch us INAPPROPRIATELY..

[@Naadeneo]

Didn't they always? I mean they had a porn scene in the Rescuers from the 70s

[@vitormenezesdemattos967]

Who would even guess that openly shouting against a law that forbids teachers from talking to 1st graders about sex would be bad for their business. I wonder why so many parents got angry at disney when they said they were for pretty much grooming kids into sexual stuff... not. They're reaping what they've sown

[@kelp7060]

@@Naadeneo Oh please. Not only was it different time where you could see a lot of nudity in art anyway, but that small image goes by so fast I never even knew it was there until recently, and I have the tape. The animators did a funny, that's all.

[@Naadeneo]

@kelp7060 oh its only a small porn pic in a kids film thats no big deal especially today in America since you teach your first graders about sex then, but your whinning at the wrong person, I don't care what you teach your kids. I can tell by the state your countrys in 😆

[@xminusone1]

​@@Naadeneo "pron scene" yeah, à 1/4 second flash image of à topless woman in a window. How shocking 😑 . It's maybe because I'm from Europe but really.. nothing to see there.

[@melindacohea127]

I am old enough to remember the bad old days, when Disney gave up on their animation arm and was looking to only make money through the parks. Then a little mermaid came along and re invigorated the brand. I hope that they figure it out again before they go under.

[@fallenwolf3368]

They could document there failures in a star wars movie.

[@mikedangerdoes]

Yea we've got a couple of generations worth of people who grew up during or after Disney's "Renaissance" and so have only known the good times. This trough might not last as long as the last one, since there's so much more money involved, but who knows?

[@khhv1900]

lol the parks suck

[@SeasideDetective2]

They also had a basic cable channel at the time, and it catered to families rather than to just teens and tweens. During those years I was probably watching that channel and the early VHS tapes more than I was going to movie theaters. I thought, sure, maybe Disney isn't as great as it once was, but what's still left is plenty good enough. Even OLIVER & COMPANY - an animated film that doesn't get much love - was fascinating enough to eight-year-old me. I had never seen anything like it.

[@NoGMOGod]

Bud light has been demolished...and so has Disney.

[@gabrielsmedleysanimaltime5826]

As Disney is collapsing, in its shadow is another animated movie company: DreamWorks. Recently they had success with "The Bad Guys" and they absolutely knocked it out of the park with "Puss in Boots: The Last Wish". So I wonder if we're entering a golden age for DreamWorks, especially if Disney is collapsing.

[@girlygreninja]

I would absolutely love to see that! DreamWorks has been knocking it out of the park for a while (Kung Fu Panda, HTTYD, Megamind, early Shrek, etc), but the past year in particular has shown immense promise. There's also noticeably less controversy around their ethics and products, at least nowadays. No company is totally perfect, obviously.

[@SeraphsWitness]

Just goes to show you don't necessarily need a knockout IP to write a good movie.

[@piotrfijoek1095]

@@girlygreninja Dreamworks has always brought up universal themes in their storytelling hence they're so memorable and so many people are fond of them. It's pure art.

[@wesleythomas7125]

Funny enough, Dream Works was made as a middle finger to disney

[@liamphibia]

And they one without even attempting competition. 2022 has to be their best year yet! Well done, DreamWorks!🌙👏🏻

[@jeffjeffries8924]

It wasn't the characters that made the early phases of Marvel successful; it was the ACTORS. It was Robert Downy Jr. as Iron Man. It was Chris Evans as Captain America. It was a cast of extremely talented actors with excellent on-screen charisma, building the characters up over the course of a decade. It had the sense of something grand, with big name actors filling these larger-than-life roles, and it always felt like it was building towards something big. Every phase after End Game lacks all of the above. The charismatic lead actors have left and been replaced by the side characters. Doctor Strange is interesting, but Benedict is, as always, a void of charisma that always feels slightly at odds with his counterparts. They castrated Banner to the point that he's not even a hero anymore, just a big green nerd. Captain Marvel is a purely antagonistic character that is overpowered to the point that they have to limit her presence. Black Widow is just boring. It feels like the color has been drained from it, and it no longer has that charm and sense of wonder.

[@NoName-eq9md]

The old MCU felt like you entered a separate universe, like a getaway from all your problems in life. Iron Man 1 is the reason I'm an Engineer today. All the kids in the block had the names and features of each suit memorized. They made complex characters that inspired different things in different people. Everyone agreed that Tony was an asshole, but you just loved him. Even after he changed drastically from the first movie and he became a more responsible person, you loved him even more as a father. The same is true with Cap. And with Thor in Ragnarok. The new MCU is a product churning machine. The stuff isn't inherently bad, it's just that they don't have that iron man 1 passion of showing you how flawed a character is. It feels like they're trying to target some demographic with every product they put out and see what sticks. It's the opposite approach.

[@tomrecane6366]

And none of that has anything to do with “woke”. Bad writing is bad writing. Bad directing is bad …etc

[@DragoEpyon]

No one cared one wit about Iron Man and Captain America before Downey Jr and Evans started playing them. It was Spider Man and the X Men that were keeping Marvel propped up during the 90s and 2000s. Those two made the characters and made the MCU

[@shyecjj]

Went to shit during endgame with all its M SHE U crap.

[@CursedWheelieBin]

@@NoName-eq9md I’m not sure I even know what the post-endgame MCU is about because I don’t put my money or attention toward these products anymore because they’re not deserving of it. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I just get the impression that I’m not welcome as an audience member, so I’ll take my money elsewhere thanks. I’ll invest it in something that actually rewards me by giving me something worthwhile. See how that works, Disney? I tried to watch The Eternals and couldn’t last even 20 mins because it was so dreary, cynical, preachy and boring. Arrogant writers with utter contempt for their audience, portraying humanity as some sort of plague in order for the heroes to appear that much more virtuous by comparison. That’s the kind of thinking only a vengeful Twitter user could come up with. Top Gun Maverick was a rare exception that proved good movies will still gain traction and turn a huge profit without pandering to the demented, perverted, hard left, misguided SJW types. Despite this, there’s nothing on the horizon (as far as I can see) worth getting excited for in terms of movies. Other than that, low budget horror films are about all that’s worth watching. Their budgets are small enough that they can experiment without a studio panicking and shoving in countless SJW references and Easter eggs. Hot political topics are lazily shoehorned into every movie now, to the point that you can’t just relax and enjoy the film. You’re just waiting for “the message” to storm in, like an unwelcome guest here to ruin the party

[@jimjamauto]

I was visiting my grandpa a few weeks back and for some reason we ended up watching some infomercial on TV for the newest Disney cruise ship. Everything was themed, in one way or another, after one of their many famous IPs whether it was aimed at kids or adults. Marvel themed rooms, a Star Wars bar, a Cinderella themed grand staircase, etc etc etc. It's not only soulless but an insult to what the company (and the man who created it) stood for in the past. It wasn't always about the IPs, Walt Disney wanted to present the past, present, and future of our world and develop new methods and technologies to entertain, the IPs were just the icing on the cake. Modern Disney can't live without profitable IPs, they have nothing else to fall back on. The spirit of the company is dead, let the rest die too.

[@CaptCutshaw]

Exactly! If you look at Disneyland when it opened and even for its first few decades, the only land that was truly IP heavy was Fantasyland, which Walt set aside to bring his animated movies to life. Otherwise Adventureland, Main Street, Tomorrowland and New Orleans Square when it opened were all IP free. Even Frontierland was pretty much that way, outside of a few vague Day Crockett references here and there, (and since those were all related to an actual person, don't really count) and Tom Sawyer's Island. Now they can't even have a bloody parking lot exist without having it dripping in IP. The parks themselves used to be the IP, the creative focus and I miss those days.

[@jimjamauto]

@@CaptCutshaw Yes it was like Walt's personal World's Fair.

[@rudegarami6738]

@@CaptCutshaw Good point! When I went to Disney World as a kid in ‘96, I loved Epcot and especially Spaceship Earth, which I found very inspiring. It didn’t need to have an IP on it. Presenting key moments in real history and showing the possibilities of the future was great without having to reference an IP.

[@lelandatkinson5470]

If Walt Disney could see the soulless conglomerate that his company has become, he probably would have risen from the dead to stop it from corrupting.

[@AndragonLea]

The Disney of the past used to be the thing that MADE IPs. Mickey Mouse wasn't something that accidentally became profitable, it was profitable because a lot of talent and hard work made it so. I honestly don't believe modern Disney has it in them to create a successful new IP. It's all brand-researched and market tested mush, designed to offend no-one and appeal to the broadest amount of people possible.

[@torchrandom9059]

I gotta say, as someone who is eagerly awaiting the collapse of the house of mouse, I would actually hold a lot of respect for them if they managed to turn it all around. They’re probably not gonna, but still

[@claytonrios1]

Seeing Disney constantly fail again and again is both depressing for my childhood memories but also satisfying because all of their bad decisions had to have some kind of consequence!

[@FreedomAndPeaceOnly]

Cause they try to create the _"modern audience"_ which will never come into existence and is just the wishful thinking from the NewWorldOrder'ists social engineering. 😎

[@josepablolunasanchez1283]

A company is a group of people. People are not the same, so your childhood memories should not be defiled. Just like only Picasso can make a Picasso, in the same way, the works you love are the work of other people who are not there. Clearly what you see now is not the Picasso you are used to. So honor the work of those who departed. A logo and a trademark is just a legal concept. You should not grow attachments to them. Then your childhood memories will be intact, you just need to separate chaff and wheat.

[@claytonrios1]

@@FreedomAndPeaceOnly I just don't want to be perceived as prejudiced. Is that so hard?

[@claytonrios1]

@@josepablolunasanchez1283 Exactly. I know who made The Incredibles, The Little Mermaid, The Lion King and Finding Nemo. I can still honor their works.

[@josepablolunasanchez1283]

If you love Cinderella, and you know the story of Yeonmi Park, you know magic does not need mice and a fairy in the real world. It only needs kind people supporting her.

[@ragnartheshiz3153]

The “Go Away Now” line was the most brutal it’s ever been from the drinker, with footage of Scar dispatching Mufasa

[@Charely1925]

I love how you included shots from Robin Hood, The Fox and the Hound, The Great Mouse Detective, and other older disney films.

[@nordicfrost]

The Rescuers is my favorite Disney film of 1977.

[@irshq9576]

good times

[@MrContentment3013]

Treasure Planet and Hunchback of Notre Dame 1 were always my favourites, followed by the Lion King 1. *Sigh*. A bygone age of grand moral lessons and entertainment.

[@sergiogonzalesYT]

That's the movies from my childhood, good old classics.

[@finklegarbledcrap7361]

"Everything Wokism - The Woke Are Sht!" - Their Delusions Of A Better World Is Only Short Lived, Cannot Last Forever, & Eventually Will Collapse On Them Sooner Or Later. Why? Cause They Screw With Things They Don't Understand, & Get Involved In Things They Shouldn't Get Involved With... As Far As I'm Aware? They Are The Sins Of Humanity, They Are The Biggest Failures Of All Generations, & Don't Belong In Our ECO System Or Community Of People... They Belong In Their Own ECO System, Far, Far Away From Us As Possible, Whatever ECO System That Is, -_-

[@nathonso_edits]

Disney had a great thing going in the 90s, they had mega hits like the lion king which was a merchandising machine and got it's own broadway musical, yet they were smart enough to make the sequels direct to video with lower budgets, kids still loved them but it was something the adults could just put on for them at home and forget about, film critics aren't going to review them or pay attention to it and the integrity and long lasting appeal of the original movie has stayed in tact for 25+ years. Contrast that to today with a mega hit like frozen, they pumped out a less than average theatrical sequel, and are planning a 3rd now which will probably make them a lot of money short term yeah but I really don't think it's going to have the long term timeless appeal that the lion king does

[@Falconlibrary]

I saw trouble coming awhile back when I taught the son of one of the top Disney execs (private school, of course). He said that his dad "only hires people he knows", which means the nepotism network. Any organization that hires on who you know, rather than what you know and what you can do, is eventually fated to self-destruct. I met the father. Daddy Dearest made it clear he had nothing but contempt for the unwashed masses who go to Disney parks and watch Disney films and tv shows--he considered them to be far beneath himself, a man of wealth, taste, and refinement. Truth be told, Daddy Dearest didn't seem to particularly *like* the Disney brand--it was just a job for him, nothing special, just a way to make a lot of money until he found something worthy of him. And that lies at the heart of all of this: you have people who don't *love* Disney the way its generation of fans do. The Disney magic isn't something to be treasured, nurtured, and promoted: it's beloved by the masses, which means it's automatically wrong and bad and must be destroyed. Imagine being a top executive in a company you hate, whose brand you wish to destroy. Now imagine you're a Disney executive. But I repeat myself.

[@Naadeneo]

True when it's made with love and people who like it work on it turns out good, when made from hate and greed well you've seen what almost every new movie has become.

[@Falconlibrary]

@@Naadeneo The people in charge of Disney's creativity are (1) not creative and (2) actively despise Disney's legacy from top to bottom and side to side. And it shows. It's like putting vegans in charge of Outback Steakhouse.

[@stringfellowbalk2654]

Yes. Probably 'copy paste' for most of them in entertainment biz.

[@hillehai]

Soulless suits. Empty husks with nothing positive to give to the world; their only motive to suck as many resources as possible from the people around them. They're in everything and behind everything now: Movies, books, video games, music, TV shows - you name it.

[@ganykaliya7811]

Nepotism is not only a Disney problem. Most corporations hire through nepotism.

[@TheHandsomeMatt]

Thank you so much for pointing out that Bob Iger is almost 100% responsible for the mess that Disney is in. My oldest daughter is beginning to get into Disney movies, we were watching Beauty and The Beast earlier today and my only thought was “Disney doesn’t make movies like this anymore.” I’m with you Drinker, you sotted Scotsman, I want Disney to make great content again so my kids can enjoy it as much as I did growing up.

[@janetg.1477]

Won't happen unless Disney exits its "Go woke" phase.

[@hehhehheh4588]

Chapek was the fall guy while Iger tried for a run in politics.

[@mvf1998]

@@janetg.1477 Disney was always woke, not the today type of woke but more of a left leaning company.

[@deeptoot1453]

@@mvf1998 wokeness didn't exist back in the first Lion king's days my dude. If it did I would not have watched their movies I can tell you that. I wouldn't let my kids watch their woke bs unattended. Who knows what that crap does to a child's brain.

[@ChrisJohnson-yw2ky]

Luckily there's a healthy amount of movies that you'll be able to show her in the meantime. If they don't clean up their act, oh well, at least she got to see the classics.

[@MisteRRYouTuby]

That ending with the King falling… Poetic as well as powerful.

[@WrathDrago]

Long live the King eh!

[@compass_Matt]

At least Liam Neeson still puts out films where he is competant, strong, and resourceful. He really carved out his own unique niche in Hollywood. Same for Jason Statham. There are still strong male characters in cinema but it is steadily dwindling. Although within a studio like Disney its all but non-existant.

[@TheClintonio]

Disney's loss of its special status in Florida is amazing particularly because it wouldn't be easy to re-establish something like that again in modern America.

[@Sorain1]

It is irreparable damage, that they got away with it at the time is suspicious, but you could never pull that off in the modern day. It'll only be when things go full on 'corporations as sovereign states' that anything like it will happen again.

[@averagejoe9040]

Not just difficult. Impossible. The only reason they had it to begin with was because they developed an entire town to function independently since they were building a giant themepark in the middle of nowhere.

[@bent540]

so youre saying jew banks dont have a special status?

[@TheClintonio]

@@bent540 Well that came out of no where.

[@blazinpuffs]

@@bent540 They wouldn't if we had leaders with a spine.

[@nullbubble791]

The thought of Lucas buying it back and scrapping everything Didney did is my wet dream

[@SalAvenueNJ]

Oh yeah !!!! George in charge, with Jon and Dave writing the best stuff they can without anyone sticking their nose in what they're doing !!

[@Troublechutor]

Lucas is a hack, but I have to admit, retconning Disney cannon would be amazing cultural justice. If he retconned his own edits and the prequels and then re-released the OT in theaters along with 70's era starwars action figures... only then will I cheer. *and lucas would finance the whole thing on the toys alone as he still owns the rights to them*

[@AZIONG651]

If that happens, it'll be the day the world floods again from all the love juices men and women will expell.

[@maxmazzotti6651]

@@Troublechutor yeah but the prequels have a majority of fans

[@chrisramsey6725]

Right!! I would never speak bad of the Prequel Trilogy again if he were to do that.

[@HolyknightVader999]

The thing is, they absorbed the IPs, but not the writing quality that got those IPs good. I mean, if I were in charge of Disney, I'd let Lucas keep on making Star Wars films. Have other directors come around and help him, but Lucas and his team would still be around to write the films and approve of them. That way, not only do we keep the hardcore fans in line, but we keep someone who understand the IP we bought, so that it can be used properly.

[@jrus690]

Yes, lets bring back George Lucas, the man who created the problem in the first place and let him have another go at it. 6 iterations of the original trilogy is not enough, we need a new 4K version that is different from the Disney ones. The prequels gave us the sequels because Disney wanted to make the old school fans happy again, now they are simply indifferent.

[@HolyknightVader999]

@@jrus690 I'd rather have 50 prequel movies rather than what we have now. Lucas wasn't the problem, loudmouth assholes are.

[@dogg-paws]

@@jrus690 Better to have that than to have what we actually got. The Mandalorian and Andor is not enough to wipe off the horrible reputation Disney's Star Wars has brought upon itself.

[@robynsrecs2183]

you shits made lucas quit the damn thing in the first place!

[@HolyknightVader999]

@@robynsrecs2183 I didn't, I loved the Prequels when they came out!

[@trevortyrrell175]

Man it's hard to imagine a time when Disney wasn't some big corrupt corporation hell when I watch a lot of old Disney's movies I think to myself man what a path, another example of ether die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

[@JaculaDudek]

Damn Drinker you cold-hearted son of a gun, showing Mufasa's death scene with your "go away now" was truly savage, much more evil than Scar

[@Xenphier]

long live the king

[@Xenphier]

@Santiago's Videos & Stuff eh?

[@MrMacavity]

The old hand-drawn movies are still amazing, and magical, and breath taking. The newer stuff is .. sometimes ok, but you definitely notice the decline in quality and writing. I just wish Disney would go back to their roots; making magical content for kids of all ages. That's it.

[@aviatorschannel]

The Critical Drinkers videos are more engaging and entertaining to watch then all the modern movie’s made by Disney

[@joaopedrobaggio4475]

And i agree with you.

[@thecyberhobbit]

While he does make good points, I think what you mean to say is "listen" ... watching an endless stream of random af low resolution clips isn't entertaining.

[@HalfEatenMedia]

And they’re made on practically no budget!

[@longtsun8286]

Sad, but true.

[@thecyberhobbit]

@santiagosvideosstuff6221 no idea what you're talking about

[@georgesouthwick7000]

While I had great respect for Walt Disney and the organization he built, that organization is now a far cry from what Walt would want. Having said this, unfortunately, Disney will probably be around long after all of us are gone.

[@pierrebegley2746]

What the child in me hates most of all is that it seems like Disney is seemingly abandoning their animated movies, the company's claim to fame. The failures could have been avoided if the company bothered to release them in theatres and marketed them better.

[@DragonLandlord]

It doesn't help that they fired the one who oversaw the animation division just because he's a hugger.

[@williamerickson520]

The marketing and releases are certainly part of it, but the decline in content quality is a bigger issue.

[@KudokuMaoh]

Alot of it is also a quality of writing issue. Everyone has been talking about it but Puss in Boots 2 basically proved that you can still make an outstanding animated kids movie that does well. Just looking at the animated Disney movies that came out over the last couple of years, Puss in Boots is everything they wish they could be.

[@venomousgas3300]

Marketing would not save the cancerous wokeism garbage they spew in all of their content of late. The content they have created lately is shallow, lacks storytelling, originality, character depth and growth, and has just been a platform for trash woke activism. Marketing would make no difference.

[@ItsaKindOfMagic86]

they dont like the themes and messages in the classics, thus why the remake them

[@brickdarg6750]

Looking at DreamWorks's two latest endeavors, they're beating BOTH Disney AND Pixar not just critically but financially as well, as their films are actually making money. They've been able to beat one of those two previously, but never both at the same time in the same year, and I'm all for it. Comparing Puss in Boots 2 to Lightyear is like comparing a delicious 5 star steak to a McDonald's burger. It's such a damn shame Disney has just gone to shit this decade especially, but certainly over the last 7 years, slowly but surely.

[@alexs29]

Not to mention that the next big craze that's about to overtake the movie & TV industry is video game adaptations. Arcane, The Last of Us, Cyberpunk Edgerunners, Castlevania, Detective Pikachu and the Sonic movies are proof that competent video game adaptations are not only possible, but immensely successful if pulled off correctly. And while Disney was twiddling its tumbs and ruining its remaining, popular IPs into the ground with excessive mediocrity, other entertainment studios saw the writing on the wall a mile away and took the opportunity. Universal partnered with Nintendo to create theme park attractions and animated movies. Microsoft and Sega have apparently sided with Paramount to produce their adaptations. Sony have themselves to rely on in the form of Sony pictures, while other streaming services like Netflix, HBO, Amazon and Apple are snatching up whatever remaining big-name, video game IP they can get - such as Fallout, Warhammer 40k, League of Legends, so on and so forth. Yet.... Disney didn't didn't do anything to acquire any gaming IPs within the decade. Or - perhaps gaming companies and studios just didn't want to partner with them - and rightfully so, seeing how quickly they ran Star Wars and Marvel into the ground. With Marvel in its deathroes, Star Wars a dead horse, and their animation departments being outclassed by better risk-taking studios like Dreamworks and Sony Animation - they're going to find themselves in a truly terrible position within the next 2-5 years.

[@mr.cuddles1805]

Think you can drop TLoU from that list, that IP is going in no positive direction as long as a certain someone still is in charge.

[@DeadFishFactory]

It's amazing that Puss in Boots 2 got fucked over by Avatar, the winter storm, and a supposed minor resurgence in covid that destroyed its opening weekend; but the fact that it was an amazing movie and the positive word of mouth caused it have virtually no drop in week-to-week numbers. It actually made more money in its second week than the first, and I think in its 6th week in is it finally experiencing some drops. Compared to Strange World which had similar opening weekends to Puss 2 and then nose dived in the second weekend and never recovered because the movie was extremely bland and boring.

[@AdderTude]

@@alexs29 Warhammer 40K is in good hands with Henry Cavill as executive producer. People who like historical series like Band of Brothers and The Pacific will also love to hear about Masters of the Air, Playtone's third WWII series following the 8th Air Force. Unfortunately, it's only gonna be on AppleTV.

[@jordantucker9799]

If Disney manage to just hire a few of those people and say "Alright you have near full authority over our animation department, just make a ideals list of projects for approval then you can take it from there." Just imagine if they made movies with Puss in Boots 2 animation, it would practically be a return to Disney's former glory.

[@zanemurcha9742]

Walt Disney was notorious for prioritising quality over quantity. When one of his animators developed Xerox Photography, a process in which drawings could now be processed directly on to animation cells instead of having to be inked in which took a long time. You can that in 101 Dalmatians that this process is used because of the rough scratchy quality of the animation compared to say Sleeping Beauty. When Walt saw the dip in quality he fired the lead Art Director and stated that in his lifetime they'd never use it again. Although he did later use it again for the Jungle Book before he died, it just shows that he made sure the best quality animation and movies where made at all times. Which probably explains why he has the most Oscar Awards at 22.

[@secretname2670]

This reads like something impossible, ill see if it's true because if so then it's double funny considering current state of movie making and it's industry

[@Peterviegal]

Not a fan of firing people. Why not just make them go back to the old method instead of firing them lol.

[@patricklee8088]

@@Peterviegal Most people aren't. However, if someone is costing you money, failing to meet expectations, ruining the company's public image, etc., firing them is a logical solution. It'd be nice if management tried to retrain personnel or redirect them to doing better, but this assumes we are entitled to that consideration. We're not.

[@teacherfromthejungles6671]

@@Peterviegal have you ever been a boss of your own business?

[@nicholascastleberry8064]

Huh. I always kind of liked the scratchiness in that movie. Gave it a unique look.

[@videogameminimovies]

The live action Pinocchio was the last straw, what a mess! 💩

[@imaflyfisherman]

If Walt Disney saw what they did to his company he would probably wish he never started it.

[@diegodubber2140]

Some of the stuff they produced in these days would make him turn in his grave.

[@specialeducationape5980]

He was an absolutely huge antisemite, he's probably pounding on his coffin rn

[@CT--mq6dj]

​@@diegodubber2140 you mean freezer

[@jadenhuddleston1899]

It's sad

[@Legend21for]

Walt Disney would disown them.

[@YZ426f]

Star wars and marvel were so unbelievably well established when Disney took over it's hard to fathom how much they have ruined both

[@yikwonjang2978]

Gay cartoon and an alien instead of Ariel. I'm done with Disney