Enshrine or Decline: Curt Schilling's case for the Hall of Fame | Outside the Lines

Outside the Lines looks at Curt Schilling's legacy and his case for the Baseball Hall of Fame.
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[@caaasillas3205]

Dude has 3K strikeouts with over 200 wins and he’s being called a “borderline HOFer” 😂😂

[@felixmanuelramirez705]

Yeah, right? One of the most select stat club in the majors (3K Club), multiple 300K seasons, two mythological rings against top notch Yankees teams (3 in total) the best postseason pitcher, and the only argument against him is he being wrongly outspoken 🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[@markcole8887]

Problem is The Rocket 🚀 ROGER CLEMENS is better….. at everything!! 4,692 K’s, 354 Wins, you say curt is 200+ tho. 😅😂🤣. I saw 👀 them both; and there’s NO DOUBT @ it whatsoever. 🧐🧐🧐⚾️⚾️⚾️🏆🏆🏆🎖🎖 Yeah funny 😄 only 2 🌎 World 🌎 🗺 Series 🌍 vs three (3). Lol 😂 nobody cares 😝 how many MVP’s, Cy Young’s, and ooh 😲 yeah how times did curt k 20 per game??? Was that 3-2 as well…. 😅😂🤣🤨👎😱😵

[@killjoy0484]

ESPN is trash and full of marxist soyboys, it's honestly pathetic. No surprise with the news coming out from current/former employees that have had it with that declining racist company.

[@alfiefowler3306]

Man f*ck on sum where talkin bout sum borderline hofer

[@gsy971]

i was gonna say this exactly!!!

[@matthewhaynes6667]

A lifelong Yankee fan and I hate his politics but he deserves to be in

[@cletusspucklerstablejeaniu1059]

Complete with a Nazi uniform.

[@jaysantos536]

Politics has ZERO to do with ANY HOF.................F$cking idiots.

[@mikeslemonade]

I like his politics! Vote red. Don’t be a blue idiot.

[@danielbonner8309]

Me too,Yankee fan. Schillings a legend.

[@dmalak4509]

Schillings is a Yankee killer but deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

[@desmondscoby1943]

Schilling retired with a career postseason record of 11-2, and his .846 postseason winning percentage is a major-league record among pitchers with at least ten decisions.[1] He is a member of the 3,000 strikeout club and has the highest strikeout-to-walk ratio of any of its members. He is tied for third for the most 300-strikeout seasons.[2]

[@markcole8887]

Haha 😂 behind ROGER CLEMENS no doubt! 😛

[@brandaonb4249]

I know he beat Gibson for the best all-time in the post-season and he is a "borderline HOFer?" LMAO! 300 wins and 2k strikeouts too! This is nuts!

[@zachwachs7913]

Curt Schilling can't be in the hall of fame because he's a republican ? That just shows you how nasty American politics are. Curt Schilling went to the world series with three different clubs and won with two of them. 3 rings to go with 3, 300 strikeout seasons and we can throw in an 11 and 2 postseason record...... that equals Hall of Fame.

[@hw5091]

I know. And all the athletes who supported tearing down cities and hurting ppl all that nonsense that went on the summer before. That was just fine.

[@sperez4989]

when did nazi lovers get a pass to be called republicans 😂 not in my ‘merica

[@johncurtis3382]

It's the Hall of Fame about what you did during your career not what happened after. Same with NBA NFL or anything that has a legitimate Hall of Fame it's about your performance in your sport not if you're a Hall of Fame human being

[@Nighthawk-8050]

I don't see a perfect human being including myself absolutely put Curt schilling in the Hall of Fame while they at it put Pete Rose in too

[@97NikeSb]

He got 70% of the vote. He only needed a few votes to get on stop making it seem like nobody is voting for him

[@notoriouseagle1074]

NHL too

[@DelusionalDemocrats]

This is Hall of Fame for MLB, not for political views. Curt deserves to get in based on his baseball statistics. Schilling did not make "offensive posts" on social media. He posted things that "offended people". There's a difference.

[@Thegeneralms1]

It’s so stupid that he isn’t in because you don’t like his politics.

[@MeneTekelUpharsin]

Remember this guy was riding Tim Wakefield after finding out him and his wife had cancer.

[@Laidback_616]

ESPN please do more content like this.

[@kynanthistlethwaite8975]

“Doesn’t have a surefire hof resume” yeah, 3k strikeouts, 200 wins, one of the best postseason careers ever isn’t a surefire hof resume? Just keep politics out of the game and recognize him for his achievements on the field

[@sack943]

The baseball writers remind me of a HOA committee coming to my house telling me my address box lite is flickering and needs to be changed it should be 100 percent based on your onfield achievements

[@Hains22]

If Ty Cobb is in the HOF, then Schilling deserves to be in. This is coming from a die hard Yankee fan.

[@JonKlinkel]

The best hitter in history (Cobb)? Automatic. Schilling? You BETTER get Dale Murphy in, first. HoF is a joke with the current players (Koufax, the bottom half of the outfielders that Murphy is better than, etc.) in and Murphy out.

[@maxmx767]

You have a point here

[@markcole8887]

PROBLEM curt schelling isn’t TY COBB!!!! A real mismatch……. 😏😒😟

[@Gemnist98]

Ty Cobb being a racist is a fabrication created by his first biographer who wanted to create the image of an “America’s Pastime Antihero”. He may have been confrontational, but Cobb supported Jackie Robinson throughout his career and cited Willie Mays as the only then-modern player he would pay to see.

[@sctt1994]

Yeah and the stuff written about Ty Cobb was greatly exaggerated and falsified by Al Stump.

[@tinieblashistoriasdeterror4963]

Well, if Schilling's career isn't at a hall of fame standard, then neither it's Andy Pettitte nor CC Sabathia. Curt was better than those two. His ERA was way better than the ones already mentioned. Curt Schilling is probably even better than some pitchers enshrined in Cooperstown, Jack Morris comes to mind and a few others. Even Mike Mussina's career ERA was higher. Three seasons of 300 ks or more, 3,000 plus career ks, 216 career wins, 11-2 record with 2.23 ERA in the post season, you tell that's not a hall of fame pitcher, well tell me what it is. By the way Curt Schilling's career ERA was 3.46 way better than the ones I already mentioned here. Analyze again what some of you might think about his case. The hall of fame is not about politics, it's about on field stats.

[@mannydaprofit2869]

Agree

[@Nighthawk-8050]

Absolutely

[@tinieblashistoriasdeterror4963]

@@JRcalifornia yeah, which of course doesn't make any sense what so ever. The players should only be judge according to their on field performance. That's it.

[@markcole8887]

Noted even you are able to “even try” to compare curt to The ROCKET 🚀 Man!!!!!!

[@747heavyboeing3]

He's not woke enough. Get it?. It's a popularity contest Mlb writers elected Ortiz in and he used steroids. Yet not Bonds. It's a popularity contest. Nothing more.

[@davidl7892]

As a Yankee Fan since 1968... I hated Schilling.... but he's a HoFer or the Hall is a joke... We already know the writers are a joke...

[@user-gq3li1bu8o]

Best playoff pitcher of all time

[@yaterspoon57]

Jeff Passan is right on the money. Couldn't have said it any better.

[@ideabaux]

The first denial to HOF -- only because his politics aren't right... we are witnessing another step towards the end of our country.

[@swansonz3534]

Schilling not being in the HOF due to his political beliefs is nothing more than an indictment on the HOF, the voters, and the process. Apparently, the process is corrupted with people who have interests and agendas that overshadow their responsibility to look at a man's baseball career and judge it against his peers. Sad time to be a sports fan.

[@collegeguy799]

I’m a yankee fan, straight from the Bronx, and Curt belongs with Pedro, Papi, Manny, Brodeur, Mourning, Brady and Miller as guys who you hated to see bc they torched NY every time. What a competitor, I don’t share his politics but don’t agree with his exclusion from the hall.

[@danielbonner8309]

Yep. I'm a Yankee fan and we know how great he was.

[@cjcable6995]

Calling his stats borderline is just looking for excuses not to enshrine him. ERA is a stupid statistic to base an entire HOF argument around, but if you are going to use it, at least era adjust it. His career ERA+ is the same as Bob Gibson and Tom Seaver. He played in the steroid era with no touch of steroid allegations, so his ERA isn't as low as it could be, but considering the era he played in, it still was quite impressive. He has 3000 strikeouts. That's not borderline - its first ballot. Then you add in his postseason performances. Bottom line, the voters just don't like the guy because his tweets are ridiculous and inflammatory and often strongly anti-journalist. But these same voters gave him the Roberto Clemente award for character during his career. He is a HOFer. I honestly don't think there are many times the writers elected guys that didn't deserve to be in the HOF (most of the random guys that shouldn't be there came through era committees where there is more backroom dealing between the voters). But they really missed the boat with this one, and have left out way or short shafted way too many good candidates during the steroid era while they squabble over what to do with Bonds and Clemens. Cheating the game is one thing and I can understand the voters reservations (even if there are definitely steroid users in the HOF, some first ballot). But not liking his tweets is not a reason to keep someone out of the HOF, especially if you have to make up a borderline argument just to justify it.

[@NewEnglandGaming413]

He should 100% be in

[@adriansan212]

He was my hero… I ended up hating him for his politics but he’s a true HOF’er

[@satanspit4101]

Nothing wrong with his politics. You don't like that he isn't a raving leftist loon.

[@notoriouseagle1074]

@@satanspit4101 He's a righty loon

[@MeneTekelUpharsin]

This guy is a real scumbag. He was using Tim Wakefield's cancer fight to promote his social media.

[@craigcooper7586]

ESPN calling his views abhorrent while employing Keith Olbermann, Mark Jones, and Jemele Hill is laughable.

[@jesse8028]

Ironic

[@landonhernandez8529]

Facts

[@cadian122]

Lmao only the left gets a voice

[@notoriouseagle1074]

@@cadian122 Even though the right has 3 cable news networks and popular radio shows.

[@cadian122]

@@notoriouseagle1074 please the vast majority of the MSM is controlled by the left.. I would barley call Fox actually right wing besides Tucker

[@dav5oly]

I agree with his politics and he deserves to be a hall of a fame

[@thomascappiello1584]

Curt Schilling is a hall of famer.

[@cadian122]

Credit to Passan for being logical and reasonable... Look guys its the baseball HOF... Its about performance not a character assestment, and by the work on the field Shilling is a slam dunk HOF, this is coming from someone who hates the Sox.. The fact that shilling is getting canceled due to politicals is shameful. If he supported burming ciites down lawlessness for the sake of "social justice" he would be celebrated... But because he is actually sane he his hated.

[@jackson5781]

Jeff gave up his vote 3-4 years ago. Cause of the way that voters were being assholes to Curt. And I as a fan have been following it since Curt was nominated. And I'm a huge fan of his, as well a good friend of his sister's

[@cadian122]

@@jackson5781 the whole situation is shameful.. Total blackballing

[@jackson5781]

@@cadian122 Curt's my guy and I'm still pissed about it Bob Costas even said he should have been 1st ballot

[@cletusspucklerstablejeaniu1059]

Sooo if David Duke was a good ball player you would overlook that "Klan" thing, eh?

[@INTJerk]

@@cletusspucklerstablejeaniu1059 I absolutely would. I'd vote for the biggest racist scumbag imaginable (which apparently describes Ty Cobb) or even a murderer if they were one of the best players ever. OJ Simpson and Ray Lewis...if they were convicted, don't care: both HOF. We're talking about performance on the field, not handing out the Mr. Nice Guy Award.

[@Michael-mr9kn]

I disagree with his politics but he belongs in the hall of fame.

[@philipglover3295]

As a Red Sox fan he should be in I’d put him in I don’t agree with his politics but politics but it’s what you do on the field

[@cletusspucklerstablejeaniu1059]

So if he's a pervert with a good ERA, he's your man.

[@satanspit4101]

Oh his politics. You mean the fact he don't think 6 year olds. Should learn to pleasure themselves. Your side thinks that.

[@satanspit4101]

Oh his politics. You mean the fact he don't think 6 year olds. Should learn to pleasure themselves. Your side thinks that.

[@omartinez7002]

He should be a HOF plain and simple

[@TheLastPrime38]

He's the guy you wanted on the mound in the post season. That's all I have to say.

[@MeneTekelUpharsin]

He's the guy that uses his ex-teammate's, Tim Wakefield, cancer to promote his social media.

[@tinman8518]

Second to Randy Johnson in Cy Young voting three times, World Series MVP, 3,000+ strike outs, Jeff Passan is right, Schilling is a slam dunk Hall of Famer. "Boarderline player"-- give me an ever loving break. Schilling's refusal to go along with the liberal narrative is the only reason he is not in Cooperstown.

[@caaasillas3205]

@@howarddamico1237 you can’t ignore strikeouts lmao. Curt is clearly a HOFer

[@caaasillas3205]

@@howarddamico1237 just look at curt’s baseball reference. He had many dominant seasons as a workhorse. The fact that your main argument is that he has no Cy youngs or MVPs is a dumb argument. He finished 2nd 3 times. So if he had one a stupid Cy Young, you’d call him a HOFer? Is johan Santana or Lincecum HOFers because they won Cy Young’s?? EVERY PITCHER THAT HAS 3K STRIKEOUTS IS IN THE HOF, HE HAD MANY DOMINATE SEASONS IN THE REG SEASON AND PLAYOFFS. 3 RINGS AND WS MVP GET OUTTA HERE LOL

[@acruzro95]

@@howarddamico1237 bro just because you are a left winger doesn't mean you need to find random stats to justify yourself. If you were honest in that you dont ignore stats look at this. Frank tanana had 400 less strikeouts but also 900 more innings pitched. So look at K/9 rather than total number. That 10% difference grows to 30% . Moreover, schilling is 12th is K/9 for pitchers with more than 2000IP. Tanana is 116th in K/9 for pitchers with more than 2000 IP. Schilling also had better HR/9 and BB/9 while competing in a more difficult era. Also ERA by itself is a wrong number to compare. Tanana had a worse ERA in an easier era. So you gotta look at ERA+ Curt Schilling had a way better ERA+ than tanana while pitching in the middle of the streroid era. Then look at WAR. Curt schilling had 20 more WAR than tanana while pitching in 900 less innings and one less season (remember schillings started as a reliever). This is only regular season stuff. Tanana never won a postseason game in his career

[@acruzro95]

@@howarddamico1237 if total Ks dont matter and wins matter so much do you think mark buehrle and frank tanana are better than max scherzer???? Or are you gonna use rate measures like the once i used. K/9, WAR, ERA+, WHIP, etc. Thats how you measure a pitcher not by total wins and total strikeouts. If thats the case scherzer, gerrit cole and degrom wont get to the HoF either becase they will probably have less wins than buehler and only 10-20% more strikeouts than Tanana. Curt schilling had a high strikeout rate K/9 and a bunch of innings pitched (3000+) Scherzer and degrom will retire with similar strikeouts, wins and less innings pitched than Schilling so in your brain with a freezer IQ they wont be HoF either.

[@MeneTekelUpharsin]

How many times did he back stab a teammate dying of cancer, such as Tim Wakefield?

[@2160michael]

OF COURSE HE DESERVES TO BE IN THE HALL OF FAME! This is why I hate baseball…Such a bad look

[@SWog617]

This used to be a free country, and you used to be able to express your thoughts... ...not anymore. If you have the wrong (i.e., Conservative) views you're going to get cancelled. It's appalling that sports writers have kept this man out. Curt Schilling absolutely deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. As a Red Sox fan, I genuinely hope Curt gets in... I'll always appreciate what he did for us in 2004 and 2007. Thank you Curt, and good luck!

[@jakesorrentino7230]

Just a reminder that he personally requested to be removed from the ballot in July. He doesn’t want it. While i agree 100 your political opinions shouldn’t matter. He hurts his case by criticizing the voters

[@cadian122]

@@jakesorrentino7230 its because he's disgusted ... He has given up because he realizes that only leftists get ahead and that he will never be accepted... In a sane world he would already be in the HOF and I hate the Red Sox

[@cadian122]

SWog I totally agree ... Total cancel culture for anyone who wont drink the cool aid ...

[@kcash6359]

@@jakesorrentino7230 What about the previous nine years? He only asked to get taken off for the last year.

[@jakesorrentino7230]

@@kcash6359 A combination of both politics and biting the hand that feeds you yes some voters refused do to his political opinions but not alot. However going on live TV shitting on the people in charge on voting you in isn’t gonna end well. He should be a HOF not saying that though

[@danielcorreard3746]

considering the fact that mike mussina got in on this first ballot and had very similar numbers to schilling i'd say you need to let schilling in just because he made some remarks that offend the liberal media they are keeping him out while there are people who did a lot worse that are in the hall of fame. in the words of the late great bernie mac in the movie mr 3000 let him in let him in let's hear it again let him in

[@markcole8887]

Mike mussina sucks….. 199 wins! All are < ROGER CLEMENS 🤴KK 👑

[@Dulcimerist]

Schilling will get into the HoF with the Veteran's Committee, which Schilling mentioned would carry more meaning for him. He and his wife wrote the book "The Best Kind of Different: Our Family's Journey with Asperger's Syndrome" about raising a son with Asperger's, and last year Curt mentioned that he has it as well. That shed a lot of light on his behavior off the field. It's a shame that the effects of Schilling's disability has been what's kept him out of the HoF for the time being.

[@markcole8887]

Thank you 🙏🏻 for your comment! It’s very significant 😞

[@nathanbywater3888]

Curt Schilling is absolutely a Hall of Famer. The Pro Baseball HOF is a joke and a sham.

[@Jms3424]

The baseball HOF is just a joke without Pete Rose

[@kcash6359]

It just another sports museum.

[@Supermanfan99]

Nah. Pete Rose chose to break a rule that he knew the punishment for beforehand. Only has himself to blame for that one.

[@Nighthawk-8050]

Yes Curt Schillings should be in the Hall of Fame. And put Pete Rose in as well

[@rulinghabs]

Problem with Pete is he ruined the integrity of the game.

[@southwest702]

I've watched his career since AZ to retirement and this is the first time I've even heard of his political views. Call me old fashion but I don't have social media

[@joshweiner4645]

All the better. Ppl waste too much time on social media, usually by their own admission

[@Kodmaniac76]

HOF of feelings

[@Kodmaniac76]

SMH

[@ianreed9571]

Why is Kennesaw Mountain Landis in the Hall? He kept black players out of MLB for decades!

[@a.true.story.31]

As a RedSox fan, he should've got in before Ortiz

[@vinewood8295]

The MLB is the toughest pro sports HOF to get access to. I didn't like the guy but he was a solid reliable player when it counted...

[@cletusspucklerstablejeaniu1059]

You didn't the guy? Well maybe you should have.

[@personperson9588]

The statement at 4:06 is mild. If you erode free speech, you may not even know what you think it is you’re fighting against. Even if you think something is wrong, such a degree of intolerance of speech is, in turn, a form of soft violence, the same violence you likely say you’d stand against. Valuing truth and understanding is so much more fulfilling than petty egoism. In general, I have yet to find a political opinion that wasn’t subjected to holes or faults, or potential prejudices or injustices. Stop incessantly fighting. Start truly loving.

[@Hookem0126]

Easily a hall of famer.

[@reignkaida]

As a lifelong Yankees fan I hated and still dislike this guy however numbers don’t lie let him in !!!

[@MafiaboysWorld]

I thought being in the HOF was based on your actions ON THE FIELD OF PLAY, NOT for your political or personal views after your playing career ended. 🤔🤷 I'm not a conservative (I'm considered a centrist, believe in some right like law&order and some left things like legalize it 😎👍), I just believe the rules should be followed here.

[@wolfsta90]

Yet Pete Rose is forgotten. Smh.

[@UTNatlChamps]

Bryant and Kurkjian saying Schilling is “borderline” and “teetering” is nothing short of disgraceful. I guess if you know nothing about sabermetrics, you can get away with that, but it doesn’t make the point legitimate in any way. He has nearly 80 bWAR, is fifth all-time in era-adjusted FIP, over 3,000 strikeouts, the best K/BB ratio post-1900, a fantastic ERA+ of 127, and that’s just the regular season. He is the best postseason pitcher ever, with a 2.23 ERA in the heart of the steroids era, had a 4.09 WPA in the postseason, the best ever. Add onto that being 4-0 with a 1.37 ERA in five elimination games, and his playoff resume is basically flawless. A phenomenal pitcher who is one of the 10 greatest ever. His political views kept him out, but to say that he was borderline in any way just shows how little understanding of baseball statistics that Bryant and Kurkjian have.

[@UTNatlChamps]

@@howarddamico1237 Thank you for the kind and respectful comment. I get where you’re coming from, and I do think there is something to be said and legitimacy to guys like you who have watched baseball longer than I have. I’m happy we have different ways of looking at things like this.

[@danielcorreard3746]

they are just trying to excuse schillling not being voted in to the hof by the liberal media that's all most right thinking people know he belongs in just on the basis of 3 k strikeouts alone

[@markcole8887]

@@danielcorreard3746 CLEMENS 4,692 K’s, cannot be ignored!!!

[@markcole8887]

@@UTNatlChamps what does saber metrics say @ the Rocket 🚀 Roger Clemens????⁉️⁉️❕❓❔😶‍🌫️

[@danielcorreard3746]

@@markcole8887 but my question is how many of those k's came before and after the roids I'm not saying ignore them but you can't compromise the integrity of the game and expect to go the hof

[@skotthall4090]

He should be in the HOF, not only are his politics his opinion, he’s actually right .

[@Kodmaniac76]

He definitely is a HOF and im a Yankees fan baseball wise he is

[@johnherney4093]

3000 k, postseason pitcher, owns the dynasty Yankees

[@MapleSyrupPoet]

I'm for Curt 😊😊😊❤

[@StephenHSmith-mn4iq]

shoulda been in the writers just 🅱️ums

[@yourconscious8538]

The hate you spew will come back to hurt you.

[@RB216220]

Vote him in you sensitive Sallies

[@PrincessYuki77]

Here because Luis Castillo of my Seattle Mariners makes me think of Curt Schilling.

[@danielbonner8309]

Hof is a joke. Yankee fan here and we definitely know he's belongs in.

[@qdub6581]

If you think ELI MANNING deserves To be in HOF then you should definitely think curt is bc dominate in postseason if not you dont

[@rulinghabs]

Curt belongs in. Eli? No chance.

[@venividivicivale8287]

5:09 lol what????? What does that have to do with the actual numbers and impact on the game. Cmon this is ridiculous

[@jesse8028]

Hes not a criminal so yes

[@blainejohnson2248]

It’s illegal to be a republican at the end of the day 😂😂😂

[@sdm1568]

Oh yeah, they sure are rounding up all republicans and sticking em in camps as we type, huh? /S

[@martinmartins7703]

imagine excluding someone for speaking the truth lmao sounds like the c/l/o/w/n world we live in.

[@williamjames648]

Enshrine

[@dolphinslifer561]

It’s a joke that he’s not in

[@a.true.story.31]

People like Howard Bryant keep Schilling out

[@MegaGator39]

He should’ve been in on the first ballot.

[@NunYa953]

The hall of Fame has been made a joke by those responsible for adding to it.

[@Jawond]

i think his politics are disgusting to be honest and im conservative but he never cheated the game of baseball the resume doesn't lie he should be in the hall of fame

[@fredleinweber2819]

how are you conservative and think his views are "disgusting" PAALEAASE!

[@DaComebakKid]

@@fredleinweber2819 It's called having an opinion

[@jaerockchalk3216]

its the baseball hall of fame not the hall of fame of political opinions i agree with , put him in ! The BBHOF is in AMERICA , the issue is his speech . Need i remind you , The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

[@Jeeper1378]

schilling and sturtze on the yankees 2004 team are both conservatives.

[@metalmythology6282]

Borderline is hilarious, and political views shouldnt be a barrier to a hall of the best mlb players.

[@DMalltheway]

Tim Wakefield’s family may need a word with you

[@mrrational2046]

If politics are going to be considered then why should we have all the racist players from the 50s, 60s be consistent, the writers are there to judge if there career was good not if they were a good player

[@fredleinweber2819]

Who are all these "racist" players you speak of? You have no idea just because they were white and played during the days of segregagtion. MOST white people back then believe it or not, did not have a problem with black folks. It was just the way of the times. You cannot judge someone you don't truly know.

[@joelanthonyalvarado6947]

Enshrine with a M.A.G.A hat on lol

[@fredrodriguez7220]

If I was him I would do it

[@harminderjitgill571]

Bonds is the greatest baseball player of all time so if he’s not in HOF it means HOF doesn’t mean anything.

[@rulinghabs]

Part of me says he abused steroids to get his numbers. The rest of me says so did most of that era and they didn’t touch gojis numbers. We forget steroids may have revived baseball from its doldrums.

[@harminderjitgill571]

@@rulinghabs Steroids doesn’t give you .500 On Base Percentage. Anyone who has played baseball knows that ain’t easy.

[@MrDeterioration]

Mays is the greatest. Only a foolish millennial would assert otherwise.

[@markcole8887]

@@MrDeterioration RUTH “The Babe” is only one ☝️ who beats him!!!! #2 ain’t bad tho 😏🧐

[@ShadySlim_boxing_show]

best pitcher of all times

[@markcole8887]

Yay 🥳🤩🤪 a vote 🗳 for ROGER CLEMENS😶‍🌫️🚀⁉️🎧😁

[@danielcohen9637]

How is Alex Rodriquez not in the hof?

[@alaskaguyd963]

It's odd everyone saying it's his politics keeping him out, and maybe it is what's keeping him from getting over the top. But he has been considered borderline since the day he retired. Well before he started taking heat for his outspoken views. So to imply that the only reason not to vote him in is for his views is just plain incorrect.

[@97NikeSb]

He got 70% of the vote last year and people are trying to make it seem like nobody votes for Him. His regular season stats have always been borderline but his playoffs stats have pushed him over the top.

[@kcash6359]

If he was a liberal, or even a political agnostic, he would've been voted in at least five or six years ago. I am a Yankee fan and rooted against this guy for most of his career, but he deserves to be in.

[@notoriouseagle1074]

@@kcash6359 Nonsense. Baseball has a very conservative history politically.

[@kcash6359]

@@notoriouseagle1074 Then you are one of the very few who disagree with me. Some writers have even admitted Schilling's political views cost him their vote.

[@alaskaguyd963]

​@@kcash6359 You can stuff that religious persecution bs where the sun don't shine, snowflake. Nobody is buying what you're selling. Sucky players like Tim Tebow get extra chances just because they are religious. Most of the writers that vote on the HoF are older than dirt and probably 2x as religious as you are. So cry me a river....

[@mattmcgovern6448]

Jeff passan is manchild,,Nintendo behind him?

[@screechowl75]

I wish players stats determine hof credentials not politics. HOFer for sure!!!

[@DMalltheway]

Tell that to Tim Wakefields family

[@bigbadbootydaddy0388]

But yet if he was a liberal and started calling out conservatives, he would already be in the hall of fame. Double standard at it's finest.

[@100shaunnor]

😂😂😂

[@rulinghabs]

As a liberal I agree with that statement.

[@someguy7424]

@@rulinghabs As an independent, I am glad to see a liberal honest enough to admit that bias.

[@eddierobbins5252]

Base ball got to many comities make the decision base on when they were playing

[@dmalak4509]

Of course it’s political. Same situation as Albert Belle. If the writers don’t like you, you most likely won’t go in.

[@victormartinez-kp9pp]

This is a abuse.

[@Bret_Frost]

amazing postseason pitcher... hall of fame is a joke.. No Bonds lmao joke of a hall of fame

[@MafiaboysWorld]

Bonds is a cheater who needed to be a steroid junkie to chase Hank Aaron's record and all of those steroid junkies should never get in. A-Rod, Bonds, all of them.

[@Bret_Frost]

@@MafiaboysWorld dude im from the bay. best friends dad grew up with Victor Conte.. 90% of the players in that era juiced and 60 to 70% in this current era juice... Its part of sports. Bonds hit homers off juice heads.. Just legalize it and make it an even playing field. Otherwise whoever has connections has the advantage.

[@shaneharun9571]

Bruh if you have ty cobb and other messed up people in the hall of fame schilling deserves to be there.

[@Supermanfan99]

Ty Cobb didn't do anything other than get into some fights. Everything else is made up. He even supported integration of baseball. People need to stop throwing his name out there like he was a bad guy when Cap Anson is in the hall of fame.

[@CVBASEBALLCARDCOLLECTOR]

No way!!!

[@MrChuckwagon55]

He wasted his best, prime years on garbage Phillies teams, so you have to take that into consideration.

[@ripadolphthorntonjr.2943]

Let’s go Brandon.

[@pinkeye00]

Baseball is dead.

[@100shaunnor]

Never getting in 😂😂😂😂

[@rulinghabs]

Hey. If Ty Cobb can be in. So can he.

[@hmrhuang]

why does character matter? well, consider the following scenario: young pitchers who look up to him and then find out that Schilling can't like or respect them because of their race, ethnicity, or creed. sorry, that type of behavior just doesn't fly with me...

[@Supermanfan99]

When did Schilling say anything about race?

[@Markdfadf]

So your reason for why character matters is making up a hypothetical that has no application to Curt Schilling in any way?

[@hmrhuang]

​@@Markdfadfyour response makes no sense. go tell ESPN to hire him back then

[@cletusspucklerstablejeaniu1059]

He should have learned to keep his mouth shut and played ball.

[@fredleinweber2819]

Tell that to all the leftist idiots like Steve Kerr, Lebron, Popovich and of course Kaepernick. Spewing nonsense they hear from liberal media.

[@michaelrood4529]

i don't think he's a hall of famer

[@Ryan-zl3bn]

Then you’re not a very intelligent baseball fan

[@Gnofg]

@@Ryan-zl3bn he had 3 great seasons and a lot of mediocre ones. Take a close look at his record.

[@Ryan-zl3bn]

@@Gnofg 3000k strike outs and his post season record is amazing and has a high WAR , look at his “stats” homie

[@Gnofg]

@@Ryan-zl3bn look at every season. Lots of mediocre seasons. 3 really great seasons but compare against a John Smoltz who had 213 wins and 4 seasons as a closer with 150 saves and just as good as a postseason. Smoltz was a better pitcher by far.

[@Gnofg]

@@Ryan-zl3bn I looked at his season to season. That is what really matters. He had a lot of mediocre seasons. Look at it. Lots of 8-8, 9-10 seasons 15-14 season means you are plus one for the year. 22-6 means you are plus 16 for the year. Now evaluate Schilling.

[@jamessmith7909]

They should of left his name off, like he requested, and we wouldn't be having this conversation now!

[@pjenkins6304]

lifetime orioles fan (yea i know.....im ok) so i loved him as a player but the HOF is obviously not based solely (or in some cases not even partly) on stats. I guess with schilling it comes down to him being a genuinely racist, homophobic, elitist type of person in life. s So by those standards they did a great job. plus he knows it or else he wouldnt have taken his name off. most people, i do believe, that are racist (whether they change or not) deep down inside know their views are askew.

[@Supermanfan99]

Just because you say the word racist a lot that doesn't make it true.

[@lourdesdiaz8940]

He should not be in the hall of fame

[@gocardinals8887]

Libtard

[@MeneTekelUpharsin]

He's in the hall of shame

[@richardmiller5818]

His politics Are unacceptable

[@nphilly420]

Schilling should be in no doubt