Sunday vs Fugue: Who Offers Better Investment Value in Honkai Star Rail

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@_Sascha_
@_Sascha_ 4 күн бұрын
Do you want to invest into the new summon-meta (/remembrance) get Sunday. Are you already invested into break and want a replacement/addition for Harmony MC (MC will get a new path and maybe you don't want to or can't switch between the two)? Then get Fugue. The decision is pretty easy in my opinion, because Sunday and Fugue are so different.
@amirjo-hanzlopez2861
@amirjo-hanzlopez2861 4 күн бұрын
im collecting all harmony characters and im invested in break teams it's not easy😢
@hgsampaio
@hgsampaio 4 күн бұрын
But why would you wanna replace MC if you didn't go for Sunday? He ll be the best support for the summon mechanic
@zeodark2761
@zeodark2761 4 күн бұрын
E2S1 Firefly and E1S1 Rappa. I lost the choice a while ago, need Fugu to complete the team. Now it feels like no new dps will compare without money investment
@acupoflatte8594
@acupoflatte8594 4 күн бұрын
Except if you want a replacement for HMC, aka RMC, and pulled for Fugue it would mean "you want to invest into the new summon-meta (/remembrance)". So you get Sunday. But if you get Sunday without pulling for a replacement for HMC... And the loop continues. This argument is so dumb lol.
@myuuthunder2159
@myuuthunder2159 4 күн бұрын
​@@acupoflatte8594 the thing is we don't know how busted is RTB gonna be. investing on fugue you can play at least 2 break teams in the challenge game modes(MOC,AS,PF) on the other hand, getting sunday will make you either play break(no fugue, forced to play HTB) or summon team[swapping HTB to RTB denying your break team because no fugue](if you don't have jing yuan or topaz, you just griefed yourself) so you'll need to use your pull funds again to get a character that has summons. this is assuming you can only get 1 limited in that patch. but if you can get both then good for you.
@DhakaHyanataR
@DhakaHyanataR 4 күн бұрын
I want Fugue. But Herta is too gorgeous to skip. Sorry miss snappy neck, I'll get you on your rerun
@exodus2oo
@exodus2oo 4 күн бұрын
Im considering this too
@dank.6002
@dank.6002 4 күн бұрын
Omg xDDD Miss Snappy neck?!
@ShadowBlade1994
@ShadowBlade1994 4 күн бұрын
Lol miss snappy neck 💀
@whdbals4989
@whdbals4989 4 күн бұрын
snappy neck is crazy 💀💀💀😭
@Merlin-x1c
@Merlin-x1c 4 күн бұрын
If Herta has overworld quality of life features like Ruan Mei on Simulated Universe, then Herta is a must pull because QoL is eternal.
@nayemsharker3145
@nayemsharker3145 4 күн бұрын
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@Glast04
@Glast04 3 күн бұрын
Truer words have never been spoken.
@aryosheva8204
@aryosheva8204 3 күн бұрын
people died when they are killed
@justahooman0ntheplanet
@justahooman0ntheplanet 3 күн бұрын
Jiaoqiu is very blind
@Katherine-h9z
@Katherine-h9z 2 күн бұрын
Some people don’t know the difference between grindable and “limited”
@sippinhotcocoa5934
@sippinhotcocoa5934 4 күн бұрын
I think both characters are going to age like fine wine much like Topaz, reason being is how they benefit their respective team archetypes in significant ways while drawing from what older supports laid out previously. Sunday will have more prominence because of the Remembrance Path yes, but Fugue I feel will go under the radar and be underrated like Topaz over time I feel. Both very valuable characters overall!
@YuriDSC
@YuriDSC 4 күн бұрын
Sparkle did that for hype rcarries, she did everything, but age like fine wine.
@vokdmso9898
@vokdmso9898 4 күн бұрын
I feel very pessimistic about Fugue, I see them releasing some new bosses that counter toughness reduction any time now
@Tryphikik
@Tryphikik 3 күн бұрын
@@vokdmso9898 I mean, at bare minimum that would be a while after she came out because they generally will put things that make her stronger when she comes out and for a little following. Ontop of that they at least want characters to still hold value into their 1st rerun, so while that could become a thing its almost certainly not going to be in the near future.
@vokdmso9898
@vokdmso9898 3 күн бұрын
@@Tryphikik that would be my train on thought too if we werent on the brink of a mew patch with a whole new path being introduced
@shachede6828
@shachede6828 2 күн бұрын
if ruan did go under, fugue will never as lng as super break exists. getting both though
@Sidabundai2
@Sidabundai2 3 күн бұрын
Lets be honest, Sunday is gonna have an early rerun like his sister like what i did to her buns
@DailyStruggles-pg9js
@DailyStruggles-pg9js 4 күн бұрын
1.0 Jing Yuan main here, my king gets whatever he wants for carrying me until Penacony 😂 but also, Sunday feels like he will have longer term story relevance for a while so I’m curious to see what they’ll do with HSR Jesus LMAO I get that Jing Yuan is not the most competitive but he’s so reliable for me and I’m not interested in getting any other lightning dps because he already does everything I need. Imo it’s been fun getting different supports and sub dps and tailoring them to fit the different kinds of battles I encounter. Like I may have both Feixiao and Firefly and can thoughtlessly throw them into tough content, but our good old dozing general makes it fun for me by letting me playing into various styles. That he’s my only consistent AoE damage dealer is also a plus since I don’t usually get the same satisfaction with other teams and large waves have been getting troublesome these days. That, and his constant buff history is still funniest thing to me. Just like how he has been serving so long as the general of the Luofu and returns to the story, he continues to be dragged into relevance by the devs. Can’t help it when he’s such a popular character 😂
@nessashaw
@nessashaw 4 күн бұрын
FINALLY🎉, someone who understands me and my love for the General. Haven't stopped using since the first day I pulled him when his banner dropped. I've also been waiting for Sunday for so long.
@GirlMeetsSunshine
@GirlMeetsSunshine 3 күн бұрын
Daddy JY finally getting a real support...?! I AM IN. He made me start HSR and I will love him until the end of time.
@uhWilliam
@uhWilliam 2 күн бұрын
1.0 JY Main here as well!! hoping i can get e0s1 at the very least
@kmitsu2319
@kmitsu2319 4 күн бұрын
Both nihility/harmony have somewhat same value, Both are in support role and its really hard to weigh between the two, but yea: - Current: Fugue - Future: Sunday Hoyo will defintely going to sell Remembrance hard because summons can be anything (dps, specialists, amplifiers and sustains). So remembrance might be a generalized path that can pair with any path without restrictions, you literally have +1 (total of 5 members now)
@hisdudeness690
@hisdudeness690 3 күн бұрын
I am also skipping Sunday. I got Topaz in 1.4 when she appeared for the first time, knowing although that she will become valuable in the future, she still had some inherent value at the time. Now, let's consider the powerhouses of 2.x. Acheron, Firefly, and Feixiao. Now, all three follow different DPS archetype. So, even if I pull for Sunday, we don't know how many of the DPSs will follow the remembrance. So, unless someone is interested in the summon playstyle (which I am not), then I would rather skip him and complete my Firefly team. I hope they will keep shilling FF deep into 3.x The main reason to get Sunday is not because of summon, but his energy gain, action advance, buffs, and neutral SP playstyle. If Sunday only had a summon AA and some minor buffs, he wouldn't be too valuable even for the exclusive remembrance dps characters.
@acardoza1234
@acardoza1234 4 күн бұрын
Maybe I'll grab Fugue on a rerun, but for now I'm picking up Sunday for my Jing Yuan and the inevitable 3.x summon units.
@MACA_Zeon
@MACA_Zeon 4 күн бұрын
Sunday will rerun way faster than fugue 💯
@paulmarcos3416
@paulmarcos3416 3 күн бұрын
I was also thinking this way b4.. But it came to me that, what if when her rerun comes, there will be better characters on her rerun.. 😢😢 But if you're really focusing to a certain meta.. Then definitely you'll not be baited with the new characters..
@acardoza1234
@acardoza1234 3 күн бұрын
@@MACA_Zeon Maybe! Especially if he proves to be more meta relevant for 3.x characters.
@acardoza1234
@acardoza1234 3 күн бұрын
@@paulmarcos3416 Yeah for sure, there will always be that kinda tradeoff on future banners. I at least have Harmony MC to fill that role if needed. If I need to swap them to the Rememberance path, then I'll just use a different team comp I guess. Thankfully we have several strong team builds now with more new ones on the way I'm sure!
@rayap712
@rayap712 3 күн бұрын
personally i'm not letting my regret of not pulling ruan mei in 1.6 happen to me again with sunday and the summon meta. with every new region everyone will have a few characters they'll rly like and wna pull and being locked out of building those teams properly w/o the staple harmony character rly sucks,, so sunday it is!! I'm sick of break meta too even as a boothill main lmao
@Undead_Grius
@Undead_Grius 2 күн бұрын
Agree I skipped ruan mei and she was basically everywhere in every team every combo and she still persist even after fugue got announced xd I remember a quote from a painter that said, "regret is the worse of poisons," and my god, if I get it xd I can already tell from the teaser that 2/3 of the new characters are remembrance and a few of them are really cool therefore I need that boring ass twink so I can play them
@beakspideyclips
@beakspideyclips 4 күн бұрын
I'm going to pull Sunday in my second account. I will invest in summon meta. Just like when I pull topaz when her first released.
@zefriam6885
@zefriam6885 4 күн бұрын
I think like dendro, Mihoyo will force the summon meta in HSR, I just hope it will uplift every team type like dendro buffed electro.
@qutilt1065
@qutilt1065 4 күн бұрын
That’s what RMC is for. Hopefully summons will be just as accessible as super break but we’ll see
@paulmarcos3416
@paulmarcos3416 3 күн бұрын
I think so too that it is going to that path.. Since the summons can either Break, DOT, FUA or any other meta we had.. So simply it is an upgrade of previous metas..
@paulmarcos3416
@paulmarcos3416 3 күн бұрын
So if it goes this way.. Then HSR could be planning to increase enemy stats not long from now (when there are already many Remembrance)..
@JoxTheMash29
@JoxTheMash29 4 күн бұрын
I'm running two Break teams right now with FF and Boothill, so there's only really one choice for me in 2.7. Grabbing Fugue would give me an opening to run RMC on a future summon team that I'll set-up. I'll grab Sunday on his rerun or a possible Robin version of his (AOE summon buffer) later down the line together with a Summon DPS, but for now, I'll bank on my Break teams.
@ak-sony
@ak-sony 4 күн бұрын
Same here, its so high the chance for a rerun for Sunday very soon in a 3.2, I prefer to focus on Fugue and complete this cycle for break teams. Also I want Herta so Sunday gonna wait for a next time.
@DestaLosta
@DestaLosta 4 күн бұрын
Wow, we have same idea. I want to create 2 break team too. The one is mono fire FF team (with future fugue, I hope I can get her) , the other is dazling rainbow Rappa team.
@JoxTheMash29
@JoxTheMash29 4 күн бұрын
@@ak-sony Yeah also if Hoyo releases the eventual Acheron-level summon DPS, they'll likely rerun Sunday, assuming he's still BiS at that time for the summon meta, so I'll just grab him and that character then RMC could be part of that team, depending if they mesh together. That way Fugue can still help my break team power through end game stuff even if I'm using RMC now on my summon team. It could also help me save as much as I can to splurge on that DPS and Sunday/A harmony for summon
@JoxTheMash29
@JoxTheMash29 4 күн бұрын
@@DestaLosta Yeah Rappa is probably Fugue's best team together with Boothill, so you'll probably notice a significant increase in performance if you have her running with Rappa. I'm personally thinking of running her with my Boothill team. I'm thinking of splurging and grabbing her E1 which has break efficiency buff to put her in my Boothill team, then run Bronya so that way Boothill will have the break efficiency buff, exo-toughness, and superbreak, without having to move Ruan Mei from my FF team to my Boothill team.
@vinny1999
@vinny1999 4 күн бұрын
It is impossible to create 2 break teams, there are no 2 MEIs. Fugue will not do what MEI does to break comp.
@danielwu7238
@danielwu7238 4 күн бұрын
Me pulling for both cuz they are both future proof... Break is like DOT. It is such a core mechanic it will never go away. Summons looks like a future meta that will only get more powerful.
@esreverreverse1769
@esreverreverse1769 2 күн бұрын
Nothing in gacha is future proof, and hsr is no exception. It would literally ruin their businesses model if it happenned
@Rozemyne2314
@Rozemyne2314 4 күн бұрын
Sunday is just an ultra cracked version of bronya
@YuriDSC
@YuriDSC 4 күн бұрын
It's not even "ultra cracked", it's just a better version, but nothing groundbreaking like RM or Robin
@miminimiii
@miminimiii 4 күн бұрын
@@YuriDSC yea its missing teamwide buff. Every single target buffers can easily get overshadowed by teamwide buffers. and since it is hoyo i believe they will release a unit that does teamwide buffs maybe for summons only or both the unit and memosprite.
@HoKaung
@HoKaung 4 күн бұрын
I pull Sunday for my seele 😅
@chrisa6549
@chrisa6549 4 күн бұрын
i always stick to “Do not buy the promise of what something could be. Buy it for what it is today” and i think its still a valid quote to this day. i never pull characters for its future potential because i often end up regretting it (silver wolf for example lmao)
@astrowolf1843
@astrowolf1843 4 күн бұрын
Amazing quote my brother ❤
@jadendevos8696
@jadendevos8696 4 күн бұрын
Topaz is the antithesis to what you are saying, and remembrance is inevitable with agleae, rmc, fate collaboration characters- you can't ignore blatant signs, especially since they want to sell gameplay people don't have, whereas fugue has replacements, especially with invested ruan mei
@donew1thita11
@donew1thita11 4 күн бұрын
@@jadendevos8696they could always release another harmony for fate you never know they want money after all
@blueraine21
@blueraine21 4 күн бұрын
Also skipping sunday He's not very useful atm as jingyuan is the only one who benefits the most from him Currently Fugue have way more value as break teams is still meta for PF or AS Superbreak will forever be useful especially on AS where you NEED to break to gain the AV and energy.
@ascaron137
@ascaron137 4 күн бұрын
fair point about Topaz, but i got her on her re-run. Like i got Ruan Mei on her rerun with Firefly, and Robin on her rerun with Feixiao. If you save enough and have self control it's not that bad to skip and wait two or three patches.
@SerenicaKristel
@SerenicaKristel 3 күн бұрын
Honestly, now I want both. Might have to spend for Fugue as I would love to have her on Boothill’s team. My E0S1 Acheron will also appreciate her. 😮
@yassarinn
@yassarinn 4 күн бұрын
I think the situation is similar to Genshin 3.0: Dendro Traveller was a good character because at that time we didn't have other good dendro options. Now few people play them. I personally think Remembrance Trailblazer will be a good character but they will fall out probably around 3.2, since they won't probably release remembrance character each patch. So the problem comes to this: are you willing to pull for Fugue, who will replace HMC in the next couple months, upgrading your break dps, only for her to fall out once we get another good summon dps, or are you willing to pull for her no matter what, upgrading your break team but giving up on the next best harmony for future patches?
@rainjoke7
@rainjoke7 4 күн бұрын
are you sure all remembrance going to be hypercarry archetype? remembrance mc might be the next meta defining char like harmony mc but if remembrance mc is going to be good with sunday its a big W for one who full for sunday. We still dont have any idea next meta is hypercarry or something to do with herta if she going to be as good as acheron. They introduce too many new archetype now sunday/ rmc /herta
@StargazingCeres
@StargazingCeres 3 күн бұрын
Break team is still going to be useful, summon aren't going to invalidate it. In fact, we're in for some serious trouble if summon/remembrance is ever the only "valid" attack type.
@aryosheva8204
@aryosheva8204 3 күн бұрын
the thing is, remembrance might not be filled by hypercarry. some of them might be sub dps or even a support.
@Klyfel
@Klyfel 2 күн бұрын
there's already another harmony scheduled tho
@ravwoofles3858
@ravwoofles3858 4 күн бұрын
Right now my account has what I need for Follow up. So I'm done investing for a good while there. Because I happened to pick up Ruan mei once upon a time, and because I happened to pull Himeko on standard (who served as a great break and follow-up hybrid), and because I have Gallagher, I have a foundation for a break team. So I'm probably better off getting Fuge and skipping everything until the Collab.
@MK-hi4jy
@MK-hi4jy 4 күн бұрын
Option 3: Neither, and hope current roster can carry for a bit longer until we know more about summon meta
@NeverClimbing
@NeverClimbing 4 күн бұрын
FUA last so long. why can't break last?
@acupoflatte8594
@acupoflatte8594 4 күн бұрын
​@@NeverClimbingBecause there are a lot of vocally annoying people that **really** don't like break and insults everyone who is remotely associating with it. The HP bump in the latest MOC? Break's fault. Why there are so many new relic sets catering to one or two characters? Break's fault. Why there aren't a lot of new 4*s? Break's fault.
@starless0021
@starless0021 4 күн бұрын
​@@acupoflatte8594first two points are actually likely to be true, idk about the third tho
@acupoflatte8594
@acupoflatte8594 4 күн бұрын
@@starless0021 And there it is. The proof to the pudding lmao. MOC HP buffs aren't due to break alone it's due the insane power creep happening in the game. Break is a symptom, not the cause. There are new relic sets that cater to one or two characters only as that *is* the way to make players continually grind for these things. Every single Mihoyo gacha with a gear system has this issue. The longer the game runs, the more Mihoyo demands you specialize. Whether that be HI3'd Stigmata, or HSR's relics. Again, break is a symptom, not the cause. Lastly, people attribute the lack of 4*s due to how easily break powers up basic hits. People point to Gallagher, and how a 4* can have single target hits that rival a DPS. "On a break team, everyone can deal damage". Except again, symptom, not cause. Mihoyo doesn't want to accidentally make a god tier 4* ever again, as it would rival 5* sales. Even if it wasn't true, you saw how Gallagher's presence influenced Lingsha's reception. They don't want that.
@starless0021
@starless0021 4 күн бұрын
​@@acupoflatte8594I didn't accuse break units for it. I said it's *likely* lmao. And what's this about not being broken 4* after gallegoat. Bro like moze e6 is almost 1:1 substitute for topaz with e0s0 (except topaz generate 1-2 more stacks for Fx in Robin comp). And same goes for HM7th (free unit and e6 btw). Now I get it that they are specifically for fua comps but that doesn't discredit the fact that they produce almost same output to 5* counterparts. And let's be honest and be specific, people don't blame break for hp inflation of bosses it's Firefly specifically. Never have I heard it's break or boothill, rappa. Because they think that bh = hunt = bad and rappa = erudition= pf unit, leaving ff the only one to take the fall.
@LadyLunaNini88
@LadyLunaNini88 4 күн бұрын
I've already spent so many months grinding jades for Sunday since he debuted in 2.0. No way I'm gonna pass him up. Besides, I feel if you don't have Bronya at all(I know I can get her in the selector) then Sunday is probably your best bet in my opinion. Fugue, yeah, she might fall off after awhile, but I feel she'll have uses for break teams. Still gonna go for her, cause I like her design/animations
@SageOfLimitlessHands
@SageOfLimitlessHands 3 күн бұрын
She won't fall off. She gives passive superbreak and her ult hits regardless of toughness type.
@Vicric
@Vicric 4 күн бұрын
It's much safer to wait for a Sundays rerun. We don't know how many of the summon characters are even hypercarries, and for all we know the 3.X harmonies are dual servant buffers and we have another situation like Robin powercreeping Sparkle.
@theoDSP
@theoDSP 4 күн бұрын
Sure I skip Sunday to check the 3.0 harmony characters as well.
@FouCh-q2p
@FouCh-q2p 4 күн бұрын
Yup, it's a pretty safe bet to take in assuming that they'll rerun him when the meta summon character is released, and being able to look at other options while waiting for the rerun is always good.
@kiel127
@kiel127 4 күн бұрын
Looking at a precedent which is Ruan Mei who is at the time, a support unit who hasn't reached her full potential until 2.x break/sb teams came out, and also released at the patch before the new version, I think it's relatively safe to say that Sunday would also reach his full potential with the 3.x summon teams, with the remembrance units.
@donew1thita11
@donew1thita11 4 күн бұрын
There is suppose to be a quantum harmony 3.2 who has a puppet. Sunday powercreep?
@Vicric
@Vicric 4 күн бұрын
@@kiel127 Using Ruan Mei as an example, she reran half a patch after Boothill and on the same patch as Firefly and that gives a far better picture of her place in the meta. RM's value was always skewed at launch because she was the first limited harmony and was busted in comparison to Asta/Hanya/Yukong.
@generalalatusfallingin
@generalalatusfallingin 3 күн бұрын
Thank you I needed this so much!!
@adarbyem
@adarbyem 4 күн бұрын
My plan is to pull on Sunday until about two 10-pulls from pity, if I get him then I will have enough jades for Fugue, if not, well I still have pity built up. Fugue is the best pull for my account right now, so she is coming home.
@AbyssArray
@AbyssArray 4 күн бұрын
My thoughts before watching: Sunday seems interesting but if a Summon character I really want, I can go for the rerun in like 3 patches - going to pull for Fugue in the meantime. I sometimes try to 0 cycle on the Firefly side just for fun so triple buffers aren't really wasted either After watching.. I think I'll probably commit to sticking to that plan, at worst, I still have an unused Sparkle and Bronya that don't have any dedicated teams for me anymore
@NoobieRookie
@NoobieRookie 4 күн бұрын
>Be me >Day one f2p player >Can complete all gamemodes >Pulling for Sunday and Fugue for fun >Saw big Herta kit >I'm a SU enjoyer >Pulling all of them because 3.0 is a massive update >I can't stop gambling
@nier6472
@nier6472 4 күн бұрын
I call cap on f2p, coz either u skipped everything past 2 patches or never pulled on banners, f2p don't get enough jade to get 3 units back to back
@kennethyoung7457
@kennethyoung7457 4 күн бұрын
@@nier6472 Luck is the best currency in gacha game not how many pulls. Not to mention they could save their jades for 3 characters in a row if they want. Being a light spender(supply pass + nameless honor) nets you about 28 more pulls compared to f2p per patch. Yeah it makes a difference but its not too much different if you are losing 50/50s all the time.
@dellaisnotaduck
@dellaisnotaduck 4 күн бұрын
​ @nier6472 I am a f2p who got sparkle, aventurine, jingliu (rerun), acheron, robin, firefly, ruanmei (rerun), jade All of them were back to back characters. Luck is a thing.
@somebody-gj6ue
@somebody-gj6ue 4 күн бұрын
What is this luck u speak of? I'm losing 9/10 50:50 right here😅 and not to mention it's always high pity like losing at 86 and winning at 85 that would be 171 pull for a single character, that's the norm for me
@NoobieRookie
@NoobieRookie 4 күн бұрын
@@nier6472 the message keeps getting deleted You can see my warps on stardb with my UID 800614308 You can see I got Acheron Aventurine and Robin without winning
@RickCZ1
@RickCZ1 Күн бұрын
The only thing that is making me unsure about wishing for Sunday is his future in the meta. Yes he will be better in the future overall but what if he falls off like Bronya or Sparkle when Hoyo releases an AoE version of Sunday that buffs all summons instead of just a single summon.
@Narubodrinch
@Narubodrinch 4 күн бұрын
If you like Aglaea or Sunday himself, then pull for him. Otherwise, it's better to wait for his rerun. Pulling characters just because they “Might be useful in the future” will often end up with regrets.
@jeju125
@jeju125 14 сағат бұрын
Allow me to share my perspective. As an active old player, I think the inhibiting factors are limited time and materials needed to make a character have an adequate build. Limited time because of chasing the character's usage span so that he/she can shine as quickly as possible when the archetype trend takes place. Material because it is no secret that collecting material for traces, farming good relic & plannar takes not instant process for F2P. Especially the use of "tracks of destiny" which needs to be thought through very carefully. For old players in F2P conditions who have quite a lot of characters with quite good builds, honestly the 2.7 banner is easy skip for me. I really appreciate EOD Gamer channel for trying to explain this topic well and other topics. Keep up the good work. 🙏
@Ultimahaxorpanda2131
@Ultimahaxorpanda2131 3 күн бұрын
I started halfway through the Lingsha banner. Just finished Belobog and all side-quests + the museum event. I started this game for primarily Obsidian and secondarily for Kafka and Boothill. Pulled on Acherons banner for Sampo and Pela, got both of them and decided to snag Acheron based on my friends recommendation, won the 50/50. Got boundless choreo too S1. For me, I will do one or two 10 pulls for a possible Tingyun as she'll be rerunning alongside Sunday. After that it's all in on Fugue as she will work with Acheron and a future Boothill + I'll get Gallagher copies (hopefully) which would be good for both Acheron and Boothill. If I am giga lucky and get Sunday, I will probably use him for a possible Clara team because I love her very much.
@mikehawk9234
@mikehawk9234 4 күн бұрын
Sunday is a easy choice for me since i chose not to invest into break style. i will be starting my investment into summon meta soon hehe
@spiker6892
@spiker6892 4 күн бұрын
The only break character I have is Boothill
@squeegie
@squeegie 4 күн бұрын
Sunday is definitely a summon meta support, but he is pretty good for hyper carry as well. He's like a better Bronya.
@idol8150
@idol8150 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for considering f2p pov, great video!
@Cranson92
@Cranson92 4 күн бұрын
I see people say "invest in Sunday if you want to invest in summon meta". The issue is that Fugue replaces HMC to give you an extra remembrance character, which seems to be the summon class. So they BOTH are (in my eyes) different ways to invest in the summon meta. And that's what makes the choice so hard for me.
@MACA_Zeon
@MACA_Zeon 4 күн бұрын
Go fugue and if you still want Sunday later on get get sunday
@NS-ku1kf
@NS-ku1kf 3 күн бұрын
But you can live without using RMC because you are just going to pull a limited Summoner DPS anyways. But playing the Summoner class without Sunday is like playing FUA without Robin, it sucks.
@gheist966
@gheist966 3 күн бұрын
i am a strong believer that break will eventually fall off and summons will be the new meta (personal opinion)
@Hobbitfeet01
@Hobbitfeet01 4 күн бұрын
For me it looks like that, Sunday is much more important for the future and so he is the "must pull" here, then u have to look how much u have left and decide if Fugue or any of the new chars is more worth. Good thing is that Fugue is on the second banner so we get much more infos meanwhile about The Herta and others and can just wait it out.
@Joe_Musashi
@Joe_Musashi 4 күн бұрын
I am going Fugue for her synergy with Himeko.
@DNCharLeys
@DNCharLeys 4 күн бұрын
are we underestimating fugue? she allows superbreak, provide break buffs and def reduction, and more importantly exo toughness, which is unique in the current roster of characters
@Mimic_656
@Mimic_656 3 күн бұрын
I think they underestimating her beacuse her super break damage is low complain to HMC and her ultimate literally do nothing
@Desperate.Daniel.24-7
@Desperate.Daniel.24-7 Күн бұрын
The way I see it- Sunday now would be an asset only for 1yr+ old or under 2 weeks new player. Old cos all content is already cleared & you have surplus resources saved up to build up a completely new team from scratch. New cos you'd have all the first clear jades & tons of resources yet to earn & invest. Sunday is a liability, atleast a short term significant resource drain for those that are in the middle- already invested a decent amount to current meta, almost finishing up their 1st/2nd team and so have recently emptied out their jades/resources. The summon meta will take atleast 4+ months to fully mature. So even if Sunday is the Robin/Ruan Mei of that meta, their feixiao/Firefly will come out much later. Which means you're wasting your very limited resources on a char from an untested meta who is also far from his best. Not to mention, are you sure Sunday is the Robin? or just the Sparkle? Additionally, if summon is worth all that expensive investment over your already invested follow up/break, then you'd still be on time to pick up everything with the main summon dps. By then, you'd know for sure if summon is just an alternative or an upgrade. Finally, the biggest point for middle players is- rather than spending on yet to mature Sunday and the likely weaker new meta intro chars, you could invest on already tried & tested T0s- cream of the crop of the current metas. That way, not only are you not wasting all your investments so far but building up on that enough to clear all the upcoming content till the new meta replaces the current (unlikely but in the worst case scenario that actually happens) That would ensure you'll have enough to invest by the time the new meta shows its true tested worthiness and nearing its peak maturity. And those, my friends, are my very serious & sincere "considerations" for picking up my waifu Firefly & Fugue 🤣 Jokes aside, I do have a finished Feixiao team and Firefly & Fugue would massively upgrade my 2nd break lingsha team & 3rd Acheron team respectively. So yes, current Sunday is an easy skip for me.
@ahistorie3236
@ahistorie3236 4 күн бұрын
I'm not sure I buy the argument for Sunday vs Fugue for a F2P player. Particularly if we're talking about new players who can leverage past content pulls for ~2 limiteds at least. I definitely think in terms of current value Fugue wins since a new F2P player could possibly have Fugue + Firefly/Himeko and Harmony MC setup for this patch. Though that doesn't necessarily translate to more resources even in 1 patch cycle (which is kinda foolish to pull for since then you could argue pulling Sunday + Jing Yuan) since a 2nd team would hold a new player back in all endgame modes. As a new player they would also only have 1 patch worth of invesment which will probably only bring their 1st team up to scratch. If we extend it to 2 patch cycles then suddenly new players may then have access to Sunday+Aglaea/RMC. The reality is a new f2p player has to be looking at pulling across multiple patches anyway and Remembrance is likely going to be set up for more support in 2.7 onwards whereas the future of super break characters is not certain (Ruan Mei rerun/replacement?). In that case I think a safer bet for a fresh 2.7 player is aim for summon team and wait to see what develops for the 2nd team. Edit: Even on your subreddit it's a common theme for newer accounts. They have 2-3 limiteds or even a full team already but struggle with 2nd teams after the new player resource runs dry. They also tend to be undercooked since building even 1 team takes a long time (I imagine relic efficiency won't be very good for quite a while). So the 1st team needs to be future proof while you slowly pull that 2nd team together or be general enough to split which was easier with a hypercarry meta rather than the 2.0 niches.
@thunderzap00
@thunderzap00 3 күн бұрын
Can we be friends so you can help me. I just started HSR lmao seems like a lot of decision that I’m unequiped to make haha
@ahistorie3236
@ahistorie3236 3 күн бұрын
​@@thunderzap00 Don't sweat it too much. You're already on a channel with a lot of good guides and there's a subreddit and discord too if you have specific questions. There's probably a influx of new players for 2.7, and especially once 3.0 comes, who will post the same questions you'll likely have there anyway. Generally speaking pulling the new meta teams from 3.0 will likely do well enough even if you don't know much and for reruns typically only supports are good (and sustains if you don't have any). If you did that from 2.0 I don't think you would have made any bad pulls though obviously some are better than others (Robin>Sparkle for example but that would have tripped up even veteran players). They don't tend to make any new units worthless and channels like this one will provide analysis before their release so you can watch a video or two on them before pulling. The only big mistake you can make when pulling new units is to pull units who don't support each other (aim for 1 team then a 2nd team) such as pulling multiple different DPS. The rest is just time if you're f2p since even bad teams can clear with investment (though sometimes much more than the shiny new meta ones).
@o00o45
@o00o45 4 күн бұрын
I have e2 Acheron and wanted Fugue because I missed Jiao. I also have the FART team except topaz. Now I’m just trying to see which new team is best investing into.
@zeodark2761
@zeodark2761 4 күн бұрын
Fart team?
@userdrin
@userdrin 4 күн бұрын
​@@zeodark2761 Feixiao, Aven, Robin, Topaz Team
@SeekGrace
@SeekGrace 3 күн бұрын
It's FARM without Topaz.
@hisdudeness690
@hisdudeness690 3 күн бұрын
why not just say RAFT....
@spyrothetimelord
@spyrothetimelord 4 күн бұрын
I think it's a bit unfair to say Sunday's teams are limited right now... he gets the most of his kit in teams with summons but he still can work if you don't have Bronya/Sparkle, so he's elevating hypercarry teams they'd normally be featured in, or work in tandem with those two. Fugue has a well established team set because break's supports all exist and the dpses have had no downtime since HMC came out with Boothill who was our first serious breaker (and he still prefers hypercarry in his best teams). They had everything from the start. I guess the question is, if you played and liked the friendship is magic event, do you think you'd want to play other characters with similar gameplay? Because if so then you'll likely want Sunday to elevate future characters you might like. Fugue is in a similar boat since with HMC you likely don't need her but if you want to give RMC a chance you might need to fill that slot. We will be getting more breakers at some point, we are obviously going to get more remembrance summoners too. Both are useful now and in the future with new characters. However Sunday also has the added bonus of being for a new meta and most of the new content will cater to that.
@MACA_Zeon
@MACA_Zeon 4 күн бұрын
Hypercarry isn't meta and he has no team bro.
@Merlin-x1c
@Merlin-x1c 4 күн бұрын
When planning about future pulls, I try to avoid falling into sunk cost fallacy. Firefly is a sunk cost, Fugue seems more useful for Rappa, MC might be better on the new path, Ruan Mei is so universal that she can move on to the newest teams and even in the 3.x trailer Elysia expy is presented as the new MC ship.
@Merlin-x1c
@Merlin-x1c 4 күн бұрын
\s
@aaronmorgan5860
@aaronmorgan5860 4 күн бұрын
The roadmap to 3.0 is very tricky. There are a lot of unknowns when it comes to the Summon investment. People are forgetting that they have a chance to lose the 50/50. FTP players may need to consider investing in more immediate value over Sunday. Fugue and The Herta can possibly offer more flexibility when it comes to team building.
@lordastrea2765
@lordastrea2765 4 күн бұрын
Dang already knew who i was going for but loved the analysis. Cant wait to build firefly, rappa, ruan mei, fugue team. Lol. XD
@edo_punny
@edo_punny 4 күн бұрын
20:07 bro i was thinking of the wrong thing 😭😭
@midnight.blue42
@midnight.blue42 3 күн бұрын
what the
@krawchick4418
@krawchick4418 4 күн бұрын
The future updates are gonna be like this: 4 characters (2 rerun 2 new) and you can defo get one per patch. Ive been doing this since december 2023 and im only missing 6 premium units (i skipped 4 and i want silver wolf) all f2p
@SageOfLimitlessHands
@SageOfLimitlessHands 3 күн бұрын
You don't get 80 pulls per patch
@manuellobato16
@manuellobato16 4 күн бұрын
I've saved for this moment for quite a lot. I will pull for both sunday and fugue and also finally pull for Firefly e2. Firefly main until the end 💚💚💚
@aidenbarello2452
@aidenbarello2452 4 күн бұрын
I have two accounts just bc that’s how I always am with gacha, so I’m going to go for Sunday and remembrance on my main, and get herta as my my first limited on my ult and then save for any characters who don’t fit into the summon meta but I still really want. That acc is only around tbl40, so i luckily have a lot of wishes left that I can grind out
@peterpedersen3988
@peterpedersen3988 4 күн бұрын
I am in a similiar position. I also have two accounts, and my philosophy was to not go for characters that I already have on my other account. (So that I can play both, or explore other ways of playing.) Consequence is / was that I am now in the strange position where my DoT, Acharon, and Jingliu Account is not always as powerful as my F2P account where I have Jing Yuan, Firefly, Topaz, Lingsha and Aventurine, as well as Sparkle and Imbibitor Lunae. - All those are characters that I don't have in my main account, while I was getting all the others with my main account. But if I were to rate the most important instances it would be, both, Firefly, and Feixiao, which I do (!) have in my main account, but Topaz, Lingsha and Aventurine make all the difference. My Fei-Xiao Follow-Up Team (in the main account) is not as powerful as the one I have on my side-account. And I already feel that my second account needs Ruan-Mei, which I do have in my main account. Now, why am I saying this? I'm saying this, because I think that there are characters, which you need to pull on both accounts, even though it might feel like a waste of Jades, at first. But in the long run it might be the case that there are some characters, which open up a few possibilities, which you might need, if you want to get the full potential out of some of your characters. I'm just saying this as a friendly advice, not to start a deep discussion. 😄🙂
@aidenbarello2452
@aidenbarello2452 4 күн бұрын
@ that makes a lot of sense, thank you! Don’t worry, I’m moreso focused on the idea of getting the characters I like most, and then pulling their best supports regardless of if I already have them on another account
@peterpedersen3988
@peterpedersen3988 4 күн бұрын
@@aidenbarello2452 That's good to hear! I'm glad, if some of this was a little bit of use to you, or others! 😄 And, as usual, getting the characters that you like most, takes priority over everything else. I think that goes without saying, except when you are a meta-player. But as players with two accounts we are already the odd ones, I would assume! 😄👍
@aidenbarello2452
@aidenbarello2452 4 күн бұрын
@ definitely! I’m just someone who wants to use the characters I love most, but I also want to make them strong if I can, so the two accounts is so that I have a chance at getting all of the characters I love and still having the supports they need to thrive
@JohnnyPhony
@JohnnyPhony 3 күн бұрын
If you have Jing Yuan or plan to pull Aglaea, Sunday is nice. If you don't you can wait for the rerun. I don't expect Aglaea to be the next Firefly starting a new powercreep wave. Castorice and specially Elysia expy seem more like it, we won't see them until 3.2 as the earliest and that's the expected time frame for a Sunday rerun.
@RipFinnick
@RipFinnick Күн бұрын
My take: sunday/ summon is gonna be good, but if you want to maximize value (assuming you have 2 endgame teams, 1 being break) it is bait. This is because if you vertically invest for firefly e2 and skip fugue (get fugue definetly if you dont have at least e4 hmc), you will have a great team that can carry your second team. Then, you can skip summon because you can brute force content, and therefore you can save for the second or third game changing dps of 3.x and get e1 s1 of them and their supports. that is personally my plan
@dawsonbusenbark3945
@dawsonbusenbark3945 4 күн бұрын
On the plus side, i dont WANT Sunday. On the downside, i pulled Lingsha specifically because i am so excited for the summons meta 😣 guess i will just have to keep saving for the Fate colab 😅
@Tosca364
@Tosca364 4 күн бұрын
Same lol In my case Fugue is the way to go because I main Lingsha as a DPS, I failed to get Rappa and Firefly is just not for me. So it'll be Lingsha, RM, Fugue, HTB for my break team 😂
@kylestephan9340
@kylestephan9340 4 күн бұрын
Its not a tough choice. For those who have jing yuan, topaz, or lingsha. Consider sunday to synergies well. For those who have break teams such as TB, ruan mei, Boothill, Firefly, or consider Xuei, i recommend Fugue. Good video breakdown nonetheless thank you.
@anibotic
@anibotic 3 күн бұрын
My biggest issue is Sunday being single target for buffs while Fugue helping the main dps to break fast & that exo toughness is Himeko's best blessing. If they release an AoE Harmony unit for summons, Sunday will suffer a bit. For now, I plan on getting JY's LC for Hime after seeing how my 50/50 goes for Aven(70 pity).
@pockettrigger
@pockettrigger 2 күн бұрын
I think while Sunday may be JingYuan's BiS support with how he synergizes with, I am hesitant enough with the current information we have to skip him at least until his rerun. While we dont know when the next harmony character will rerun there is a tonne of unnused design space in the summon archetype and I can imagine futire summon supports being better with the 3.x summon dpses that we will get. Dont want to end up in a sparkle situation and be powercrept 2 patches later. Im thinking something like robin but only for summons. JingYuan cares about his turn so he can generate stacks for LL but if RMC or the 3.0 character care less about their turn and more about the summon I can see Sunday being less relevant for future summon charcters
@pockettrigger
@pockettrigger 2 күн бұрын
This is all completely hypothetical obviously but with the rate of characters coming out not looking like its going to change i'm probably going to be more hesitant on my pulls until we get more info on future characters
@jojo-cl1et
@jojo-cl1et 4 күн бұрын
Since im on a guarantee. Ill pull for sunday ... who knows the next time he reruns i may even lose the 50/50 and knowing that we are headed into the summon meta i dont want any regrets.
@MACA_Zeon
@MACA_Zeon 4 күн бұрын
Harmony rerun faster than others so probably early 3.x
@emilyduquette
@emilyduquette 42 минут бұрын
I think something everyone is forgetting is that Sunday, while his BiS team is Summon, much like Robin, hes gonna be very good on pretty much every other team due to him being SP neutral to postive status and his 100% AA with cleanse.
@Spectru9
@Spectru9 3 күн бұрын
Heres the plan: get Sunday, invest 5 bucks, wait for 3.0, get Herta (why would you even skip her?), invest another 5 bucks, collect a shiton of jades, pray to get Aglaea in 40 pulls, if no Herta, then Aglaea - if no Aglaea, invest ANOTHER 5 bucks for jades, wait for 3.1, pull again Alternative - sell kidney, gamble your kid/brother, steal some bitcoin
@OlexandrHotsuenko
@OlexandrHotsuenko 4 күн бұрын
Could you please make Fugue vs Ruan Mei as well? I do not have Ruan Mei, and I am going to pull fuge for my break team with Himeko, and I am not sure, if I will need RM in the future.
@Argenttttttt
@Argenttttttt 4 күн бұрын
EODCharmer is back
@runningtiger7624
@runningtiger7624 4 күн бұрын
I'm pulling sunday as soon as he comes out, But I'll probably consider pulling fugue since shes second. That means I can wait for more info on the 3.0 characters.
@xuk6042
@xuk6042 4 күн бұрын
Sunday the new sparkle? 🤔
@paulmarcos3416
@paulmarcos3416 3 күн бұрын
I need both.. I thought of getting Herta or Aglaea when they were drip Marketed.. But I have changed my mind.. I'm seeing a summon meta coming.. But like how I see it.. I'm also seeing their value in this meta.. Just a gut feeling though.. I hope I don't go back to this comment regretting everything.. Hhahaha
@Mugetsuism
@Mugetsuism 4 күн бұрын
My question is whether to pick either up at all haha . Herta looks very cool, but no idea what she does. I have: DPS: Feixiao Buff: Bronya, Robin Healer: Lingsha Those are the only 5*s I have lol (brinya E2 xD). And 7k crystal/gems/Astrite(?) But also, I'm only 1/4 way through Xianzhou Loufou 1st time, so not at apenacony. This is to say I have lots of resources available to get by then I guess.. Will we get Herta's kit before Sunday banner is over?
@NeFlorence
@NeFlorence 3 күн бұрын
I'll grab Sunday for now. With Aglaea coming and with the amount of Remembrance characters coming out, who knows if RMC will even have a spot as a Remembrance path character in a team. HMC is already a proven must have for Super Break. RMC isn't proven to be a must have for Summon team. You'll have 1 Limited 5 star Remembrance character. A Sustain like Aventurine since his shields apply to Summons or Lingsha because she too has a summon. Sunday because he is THE summon Harmony unit. So that's 3/4 of the team slots filled up. RMC would have to be HMC levels of good to justify using that 4th slot for them.
@XBossLuffyX
@XBossLuffyX 4 күн бұрын
Might be grabbing an E0 Sunday or an E1 or 2 fugue, or I might do vice-versa. S0 for both or I night go s0 for Sunday and use a different LC for fugue
@steffy2
@steffy2 3 күн бұрын
i will get Sunday now and go for fugue on her rerun. I do want fugue for my ff team but that team already works with harmony tb and i feel like the upcomming summon meta will really make players regret skipping sunday just like the break meta made people regret skipping ruan mei.
@empunisher
@empunisher 4 күн бұрын
I have FF but no RM. Should I pull for Fugue, or would it be better to switch to the new summon meta with Sunday to pull for?
@Zinaken
@Zinaken 4 күн бұрын
This is the same dilemma I'm in. Long time player but took a 6 month break. Have Robin FF, BH. No break support. It's managed but could be better.
@whdbals4989
@whdbals4989 4 күн бұрын
this is something i told my friend as well but getting fugue without having rm is essentially getting an upgrade unit(from hmc) without having a core unit(rm). the only case where i would recommend it is if you want to play remembrance mc- all up to you though, especially if you like fugues design :3
@SeekGrace
@SeekGrace 3 күн бұрын
You should get Ruan Mei before touching Fugue. You have HMC. You can't go wrong with Sunday. Can be slot into FeiXiao and Acheron comps. He roids up Seele so much that she becomes relevant. Get his lightcone and he become SP positive.
@ectoBiologist21
@ectoBiologist21 4 күн бұрын
The current expectation is that Sunday is for summons, but I don’t think it holds water anymore. The original theory was that team affects would not be able to interact with memosprites, for example Robins ult would not accelerate them, however this seems to not be the case because as shown Adventurines shield was clearly shown to affect them, so Robin will still be able to push them all up with her ult, Sunday seem to me very Hypercarry focused and not memosprite focused. Invest at your own risk.
@hisdudeness690
@hisdudeness690 3 күн бұрын
Oh really? was it shown in the livestream? If they did, I somehow missed it. Yeah, then pulling Sunday for purely summon dps characters is not the optimal strategy.
@ectoBiologist21
@ectoBiologist21 3 күн бұрын
@ during the explanation of memosprites yes
@JohnnyPhony
@JohnnyPhony 3 күн бұрын
The wording of Aventurine skill and Robin ult is different. Aventurine skill says "all allies" and Robin says "all teammates". They can say a summon/memosprite counts as an ally but it's not a member of our four unit team.
@ectoBiologist21
@ectoBiologist21 3 күн бұрын
@ “they” say a lot of things, like Aventurine not being able to Shield them, but here we are.
@JohnnyPhony
@JohnnyPhony 2 күн бұрын
@@ectoBiologist21 With "they" i meant Hoyo, i don't take anything leakers say for certain. I'm just pointing out the different way Aventurine skill and Robin team AA are worded. Hoyo can point to that "ally" and "teammate" terminology to justify Robin being uncapable to advance this type of summons while Aventurine can shield them Even if worse case happens, Robin can advance Sunday. That's like advancing a summon🤣
@LDR.l0vr
@LDR.l0vr 2 күн бұрын
i think sunday will be useful(likely the best) if you go for rememberance character when they release because he focuses on character summons and rememberance is based on the character summoning allies so if your going for rememberance when it releases pull sunday but if you want a very good break support go fugue
@Klyfel
@Klyfel 2 күн бұрын
i'm pulling for Fugue because she doesn't need investment, just by existing on the field she's already worth with her talent
@Nole2701
@Nole2701 4 күн бұрын
I keep trying to think whether or not there will be another summon harmony later but it's unlikely. Sparkle is the only limited hypercarry harmony, Ruan mei is the only limited break harmony. Robin is the only FUA harmony. We don't have a DoT harmony though but that team archetype isn't really too major.
@Ed-
@Ed- 3 күн бұрын
I prefer Sunday's kit but Fugues design over Sunday so I will get Fugue even though I am not a break fan tbh
@mismismism
@mismismism 4 күн бұрын
I'm so torn whether to get Sunday or Fugue for Boothill, because if content shifts in a way where break isn't effective, having Sunday and swapping to RMC makes that easier and Sunday seems to be an upgrade to Bronya for BH, like Fugue is an upgrade but if break is still effective for a while, I don't know how much you really need her to keep it effective and RMC can still swap to HMC if break is effective. It really depends on enemy design, I'm here anticipating a bunch of new enemies that block out their weakness and regenerate toughness without breaking so Hoyo forces everyone to shift from break.
@MercuryCeres
@MercuryCeres 4 күн бұрын
I live for these videos
@niklasaigner2653
@niklasaigner2653 3 күн бұрын
The Thing IS when pulling for Figur you get her and the new Trailblaizer
@hugosilva8527
@hugosilva8527 4 күн бұрын
my plan is whoever I lose 50 50 I dont get it XD sunday banner is really bad for me fugue is ok i dont have a single idelon for galaghar witch i use and mika witch i dont use i am close to pity so i dont mind trying to get sunday if i dont i guess is see him in his rerun
@oHarlequinn
@oHarlequinn 4 күн бұрын
HAHAHA me honestly. If I can't decide whether to pull or not, I'll let fate decide it for me. If I win the 50/50, great! But if I don't, I'll just brush it off as the character isn't meant for me, or future character is much better for my account.
@fareezcr5611
@fareezcr5611 4 күн бұрын
I'm going for Sunday .. i expecting to get 1 remembrance unit in future. Maybe aglea on rerun if there's no remembrance unit that i like. Also he should be good with non-summon hypercarry unit 😁
@trck1562
@trck1562 16 сағат бұрын
I mean it still depends on future remembrance characters, summons might specialize with break too so go with fugue or if not go for sunday for future proof buffer any harmony buffer is always a good investment thats why im here crying i didnt get ruan mei....Ruan Mei Solves Everything in my team, i still have bronya the only buffer i have.
@Detton30
@Detton30 3 күн бұрын
I like Fugue as a character more than Sunday, who I find insufferable and dislike conceptually. But I kind of want to set myself up for success with an inevitable summon-focused meta, so I'm going to focus on him and save any excess jades for Remembrance.
@direwolfAD
@direwolfAD 4 күн бұрын
I have firefly break basic team with rm and no other 5 star and I have dot premium team Kafka , huo huo, black swan so who should I pull for? Char to power up dot team or someone else like entire new summons(sun) or fuge for ff I also have fu Xuan and Robin along with ratio, no 5star light cone, I only have 4 k gem and 40 pity
@direwolfAD
@direwolfAD 4 күн бұрын
I have difficulty in apocalyptic shadow like 6 star while for moc and pf I am 1 or 2 star short for complete clear as my main second team is dot
@eduardomiguel4773
@eduardomiguel4773 4 күн бұрын
​@@direwolfADSome people play DOTcheron teams. Kafka, Black Swan, Acheron and a support. Huohuo works. Try searching some video showcases of that team comp. Good damage but the skill point management could be a problem. Also not many 4* lightcone options for Acheron. Just saying out loud but probably not worth investing on that team comp at this point.
@direwolfAD
@direwolfAD 4 күн бұрын
@@eduardomiguel4773 ya I also thought the same that's why I was thinking for starting new play style investment summons but at the same time if I start summon I will need both fuge(hmc replacement) and Sunday that's why I was asking for opnion
@あけほし
@あけほし 3 күн бұрын
i've had jing yuan since his first banner and now i finally get to use him with sunday....
@Snackie15910
@Snackie15910 4 күн бұрын
I'm thinking about pulling both. Im a newer player and have alot of pulls saved up, I dont have a single summon unit. I don't really like sunday that much as a character, but i know he'll be very solid for rememberance, and want lingsha copies for my new clara ill pick with selector. I love my himeko and want fugue for her and to get Gallagher. I dont have ruan mei, and if i do get fugue without sunday, itll feel like im freeing up trailblazer for nothing
@Eduan_the_King
@Eduan_the_King 3 күн бұрын
i will trust in my gacha skills and pull for aventurine sunday and fugue
@Mondryx
@Mondryx 3 күн бұрын
Only 3.X char I really want for now is Castorice. Ill wait for summon and buff my Rappa with Fugue!
@games-dan
@games-dan 4 күн бұрын
For me the question is E0 Fugue vs. Firefly’s E2. With The Herta coming I might skip everyone in 2.7, but I definitely don’t want to go all-in on a new playstyle, future meta or not.
@wolfsign9168
@wolfsign9168 22 сағат бұрын
I am going to skip fugue for sunday but it sucks because if RMC is good in the sunday teams then i cant run my FF comp and my remembrance comp on endgame modes at the same time ;-; If this becomes an issue ill pull fugue in future i guess. I have enough to likely get both but i want to invest in 3.x characters so i will save the jades for new dps/supports that fit the sunday teams also herta and aglaea sucks for me - I have a well built well invested acheron team(e0s1 acheron e0s0 Jiaoqui E0s1 Aventutine and pela/silverwolf), i dont need a lightning carry. I struggle most in PF so The Herta would be very helpful, but i havent invested in jade either (i have himeko and lil herta partially built tho so i can make it work). Im kinda planning to skip 3.0 characters and go for one of the other rememberance dps - unless i get extremely early on sunday then i will maybe go for herta (partly)
@MuhammadKharismawan
@MuhammadKharismawan 4 күн бұрын
What Sunday look to be weak on is, he is strictly single target harmony, what really will guarantee that he will not suffer the same fate as Bronya and Sparkle being replaced by Robin? It looks like Remembrance characters aren't only limited to one per team.
@omppu65
@omppu65 4 күн бұрын
his eidolons might allow buffing for multiple targets
@dakotabaird
@dakotabaird 4 күн бұрын
Fugue may replace HMC when they shift to RMC but that's assuming RMC is as critical for summon meta as they were for break meta. I'm willing to risk it on Sunday more and RMC not being too necessary for summon meta. Worst case MC can switch back and forth for me.
@vander1135
@vander1135 4 күн бұрын
remembrance roster gonna be very limited and specific early on so if you don't plan on getting almost all of them just skip them and focus on the side upgrade that'll accompany the summon meta throughout 3.x. if you already have some of the current top tier meta atm(feixiao, robin, ff, rm) then you have the capital to sit by the side and watch the meta develop for 3-4 patch as they'll stay relevant till at least this time window then decide to invest once the 3.x start rerunning their character and the meta is more defined.
@Mh_ix
@Mh_ix 4 күн бұрын
I mean Ruan Mei came before break was a thing Robin came just before Hsr went all follow up sparkle … ahem anyways Even a non harmony black swan came and made dot damage real even tho it died few patches after So the real thing is never think low of new supports especially when they seem too specific
@starless0021
@starless0021 4 күн бұрын
Ruan Mei hype was especially because she was the first limited harmony unit. While Robin being party buffer but in fua comps, who is to say that they won't release a harmony with teamwide summon buff and AA. I'm merely speculating, but from what I can see hypercarry is in a weird spot, cos hyv likes to release units that synergize with each other eg. break, fua, dot comps, seeing how dps like JL, dhil, blade fall off once the following teams started completing. A full summoner comp is also not out of scope.
@Mh_ix
@Mh_ix 4 күн бұрын
@ no this is too real the fact that sparkle sits jobless is wild cuz the fact that they just don’t want to make a character that can clear instead make teams and then upgrade one of them and sell it this way sadly
@MrFrexys
@MrFrexys 4 күн бұрын
Superbreak is fine as it is, better to invest in a new meta than to win-more on a team that's already stomping. It's like farming relics for a character when all your pieces are 4/5 crit rolls. Just farm a different set for a different character. And if the meta isn't there for that team yet, just use the current superbreak team. Once a character you're looking forward to comes along and you don't have Sunday, you'll be kicking yourself. Not picking up Fugue just means that your current tier 0 team doesn't reach it's potential, but it's still a tier 0 team, and by the time a full Remembrance team is out, it'll likely be stronger than superbreak anyway even with Fugue, and you can go back to having HMC over RMC anyway if you still want to play superbreak. Outside of waifu points I really don't see much value in Fugue. They really fumbled her kit imo.
@joec1060
@joec1060 4 күн бұрын
Im stuck. Currently sitting at a very solid FUA team and a partially formed break team. Running HMC Lingsha Rappa and Himeko for now, intended to swap himeko for fugue. Sitting on about 100 pulls. Do i stick to plan or swap to sunday and plan for summon future? Or do i skip it all and plan for erudition with The herta and Rappa and himeko? 😖
@hugedeal8611
@hugedeal8611 4 күн бұрын
The correct answer is…. Boof, and all the characters coming with the new planet cause holy shit it all looks amazing
@AdamHedden-f6g
@AdamHedden-f6g 4 күн бұрын
I have no summon characters but i have Rappa....going for Fugue (even though ive lost every 50/50 since version 2.0)
@lionelsioco123
@lionelsioco123 4 күн бұрын
kinda true that sunday don't have someone yet to buff (except at JY) and remembrance is still like next year jan or feb most likely, maybe ill get Fugue as f2p.... right now i only have e0s1 firefly, HMC e6, Ruan Mei e1s0, Lingsha e0s0/Gallagher e6, didn't roll for Rappa (same for Acheron and Aventurine rerun banner, since i already have Acheron e0s1, no Aventurine also), and when HMC was gonna be replaced to RMC ... Fugue can help for FF (i dont know if fugue will help for my acheron though since fugue is nihility haha, i have Jaoqui e0s1 too 😊) Looks like Fugue for me i guess 😅.
@不死鳥ATC
@不死鳥ATC Күн бұрын
i want aglae but I dont want Sunday from the moment they leaked him. so I ll get him on a rerun if he really is BIS for aglaea. hoping for another summon support for maybe dual dps setups since Sunday is hyper carry focused
@balzaque1
@balzaque1 4 күн бұрын
Honestly Sunday is probably the best option to start building up the Summon team but for me at least I really dislike him, annoying ex villain and church religious dude, maybe in the future will feel inclined to pull him in a rerun if he is really that busted. Fugue I'm still in the fence, probably better for me to save resources, I really don't want/need to replace HMC and I don't think she is that great of a fit for acheron, was thinking that maybe it would be good to get her so I can change HMC to Remembrance but I'm really not sure that RMC will be as needed as HMC, probably a good character but probably an easy replaceable one, at least that is what I hope lol
@wrath98
@wrath98 4 күн бұрын
I’m probably coping here but I really hope it’s viable to use Sunday with a future DPS along with Sparkle and Fu Xuan
@juliuskingsley4400
@juliuskingsley4400 2 күн бұрын
Is Sunday gonna be a worthy replacement for bronya on boothill teams or is the difference minimal for non summon dps
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