What Happened To The Other Mesozoic Mammals?

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@drewr.schulz728
@drewr.schulz728 16 күн бұрын
What I would love to know is how many Mesozoic mammals/mamalliaforms had quills! They wouldn’t fossilize except in very specific conditions, but it would make a lot of sense for them to develop spines. We have FOUR seperate lineages of mammals today with quills (echidnas, tenrecs, hedgehogs, and porcupines) which makes me think there were likely several groups back then doing the same thing.
@carlosalbuquerque22
@carlosalbuquerque22 16 күн бұрын
Spinolestes
@carlosalbuquerque22
@carlosalbuquerque22 16 күн бұрын
And probably also Zalambdalestes
@TravellingTortuga
@TravellingTortuga 16 күн бұрын
Plus, we know Psittacosaurus had spines, so it hasn't just happened in mammals.
@chequereturned
@chequereturned 16 күн бұрын
@@drewr.schulz728 The porcupines are two lineages!
@targaryen7029
@targaryen7029 16 күн бұрын
I'm also very fascinated by the evolution of bats and flying on mammals. We know bats already flew by 55 Mya as per fossil evidences, but I wonder WHEN flying really evolved in mammals. It's fascinating that in the Jurassic we had a lot of Mammaliaforms already trying new niches.
@shaddonon
@shaddonon 16 күн бұрын
6:40 Brian Engh's art is mindblowing; I can practically smell the wet plants, feel the sun, hear the gremlin yammerings
@memofromessex
@memofromessex 16 күн бұрын
I was about to say the same!
@donhillsmanii5906
@donhillsmanii5906 16 күн бұрын
And it’s REAL, not this AI prompted trash that everyone keeps using
@calumreid8939
@calumreid8939 16 күн бұрын
Just wanted to say that I found the graphics and description of the clades of mammals in this video very helpful for my understanding!! Thanks!
@woodsplitter3274
@woodsplitter3274 16 күн бұрын
Agreed. If we're watching, you can leave graphs on for awhile.
@p.bckman2997
@p.bckman2997 16 күн бұрын
Technically the description is not correct. Defining Mammaliaformes as cown mammals and any animal more related to them than to other existing animals means mammaliformes include things like Dimetrodon and Gorgonops. What the video calls mammaliformes are the anatomically defined mammals minus the crown group.
@sirmixcomps
@sirmixcomps 16 күн бұрын
I hated it same rotating pictures was terrible man
@ThePipemiker
@ThePipemiker 16 күн бұрын
As a long time allergy sufferer, I often wonder if it wasn't the Chicxulub impactor that killed the dinosaurs: It was all that newly evolved angiosperm pollen that really sealed the deal.
@blackenedmagic888
@blackenedmagic888 16 күн бұрын
Could you imagine how loud a sneeze from, say, an Ultrasaurus would be?
@robertjackson1813
@robertjackson1813 16 күн бұрын
Last time I checked, seasonal allergies aren't fatal.
@ThePipemiker
@ThePipemiker 16 күн бұрын
@@robertjackson1813 Okay, if you want to get hyperliteral about it, it was asthma then.
@Dth091
@Dth091 16 күн бұрын
@@robertjackson1813 Perhaps not to anything living *today*, sure! :P
@brianroberts783
@brianroberts783 16 күн бұрын
Given that angiosperms fist appear in the fossil record 125 million years ago, I don't think that pollen reactions were to blame for the extinction of the dinosaurs. They had plenty of time to get used to it. And even aside from angiosperms, gymnosperms also produce plenty of pollen, and they pre-date the dinosaurs.
@memofromessex
@memofromessex 16 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed this episode of 'all them animals', especially the illustrations. I'm still amazed/confused how some species survived the Cretaceous, and others did not!
@TiggerIsMyCat
@TiggerIsMyCat 16 күн бұрын
They had a few episodes taking about that. Basically, were you a small generalist (who needed fewer resources and could utilize many different kinds of resources, so could survive on a little bit of this, a little bit of that), or small and semi-aquatic (less resources needed, but also your habitat was less disrupted), or small and ate seeds (fewer resources needed, but also seeds were the most abundant of the remaining food sources). Small burrowers were also more likely to survive since burrows are more climatically stable.
@marcob1729
@marcob1729 16 күн бұрын
Small, burrowed, ate seeds and/or insects. Basically, that's the recipe right there
@jesscmcmxc
@jesscmcmxc 16 күн бұрын
integument like fur or feathers also probably helped retain energy
@jonathan0225
@jonathan0225 16 күн бұрын
with my time here in the internet, tierzoo, casual geographic and PBS show, essentially the dev(s) brought down the nerf hammer and killed the prevailing meta and did some gameplay balances giving rise to new niches.
@Xnaut314
@Xnaut314 16 күн бұрын
I've been asking for a Mesozoic mammal episode for years, and it's finally here! Castoracauda in all it's glory is such a twist in the stereotype of "dinosaur supremacy" during the period and proves that our ancient ancestors were not helpless dino fodder all the time. No mention of Repanomamus though, which makes me wonder if they're saving the toughest of mammaliforms for its own episode. Hope so!
@p.bckman2997
@p.bckman2997 16 күн бұрын
It's still a fairly generalized critter, much like a moden yapok or water opossum. Being aquatic, like a beaver, likely allowed it to grow a bit larger than its terrestrial relatives.
@BobaBushido
@BobaBushido 16 күн бұрын
Dead end species are my absolute favorite. Thank you for this.
@toddberkely6791
@toddberkely6791 16 күн бұрын
do you find them relatable?
@BobaBushido
@BobaBushido 16 күн бұрын
@toddberkely6791 im not talking to some weeb with an anime pic
@toddberkely6791
@toddberkely6791 16 күн бұрын
@@BobaBushido ,:)
@TheQuenchiestCake
@TheQuenchiestCake 16 күн бұрын
👀
@HuckleberryHim
@HuckleberryHim 16 күн бұрын
What on earth is a "dead end species"? That isn't how evolution works...
@theobozikis8225
@theobozikis8225 16 күн бұрын
Thank you for touching on the Multituberculates in this video. They were the longest lineage of mammals ever! I would like to see a video starring these long-lived, little known, incredible mammals one day.
@Pottery4Life
@Pottery4Life 16 күн бұрын
An excellent, information dense episode. Thank you.
@Fantasygod930
@Fantasygod930 16 күн бұрын
So our ancient Cousins had their own beavers flying squirrels and moles My brain has grown exponentially!🤯
@shiftinganimela
@shiftinganimela 15 күн бұрын
Convergent evolution at its finest!
@jacobgame2757
@jacobgame2757 15 күн бұрын
​@@shiftinganimelaWhat is interesting is as far as I know, humanoids are pretty much one of the only forms that don't seem to keep convergently evolving
@DarDarBinks1986
@DarDarBinks1986 12 күн бұрын
Convergent evolution will do that.
@Whatever94-i4u
@Whatever94-i4u 10 күн бұрын
@@jacobgame2757 Yes, because we don't have a specific niche that would favor our form, and we were also the products of a "perfect storm".
@Brandon-kt1qh
@Brandon-kt1qh 9 күн бұрын
Makes you wonder if there were mammals with dolphins or chimp like intelligence-maybe even greater intelligence.
@memyself3510
@memyself3510 16 күн бұрын
0:40 how is nobody talking about how cute that thing is?!
@marquesbowden0130
@marquesbowden0130 16 күн бұрын
6:41 that make sense, and it's also somewhat ironic that the biggest obstacle to mammalian evolution wasn't necessarily dinosaurs, but other Mammalian forms. Kinda wonder if they note live young or laid eggs
@thekaxmax
@thekaxmax 16 күн бұрын
Live young is one of the main things that define mammals
@martijn9568
@martijn9568 15 күн бұрын
@@thekaxmaxExcept monotremes😉. Milk glands or sweating milk would be better characteristic.
@FloozieOne
@FloozieOne 15 күн бұрын
This is one of the best videos you have made. The tracing of the animals, climate and flora woven together in a beautiful tapestry is both intriguing and miraculous. One wonders what would have happened if one of the earlier forms would have adapted to the changes and come out on top. Gotta say though, I like the world as it is.
@Captainrizzlicious
@Captainrizzlicious 16 күн бұрын
The day I don't hear John Davidson Ng's name is a day I will cry.
@elonstruths1475
@elonstruths1475 15 күн бұрын
I miss Steve.
@zachg.4251
@zachg.4251 15 күн бұрын
​@@elonstruths1475 and Steve! gone but never forgotten.
@lineandersen3329
@lineandersen3329 15 күн бұрын
​@@elonstruths1475Steve will forever be a legend
@crisptomato9495
@crisptomato9495 14 күн бұрын
@@elonstruths1475 yeah RIP Steve
@marloelefant7500
@marloelefant7500 14 күн бұрын
I like how calm and professional he presents this stuff.
@lorithavon
@lorithavon 16 күн бұрын
Three words: Tiny Ancient Platypus.
@swedneck
@swedneck 16 күн бұрын
a platypus? /Gasp!/ Tiny the Ancient Platypus!
@sirmixcomps
@sirmixcomps 16 күн бұрын
three words: rotating crappy pictures
@MorganBrown
@MorganBrown 15 күн бұрын
Two words: Shark Mouse
@alfredwaldo6079
@alfredwaldo6079 15 күн бұрын
one word, thundercougarfalconbird
@edwardfrennmariano2951
@edwardfrennmariano2951 15 күн бұрын
@@swedneckDoofenshmirtz Evil Incorporateeeeed!
@CMVBrielman
@CMVBrielman 16 күн бұрын
I’ve wondered if there happened to be any large mammals from the Mesozoic that we don’t have records of. Like how, even though mammals are dominant now, we still have large birds and reptiles.
@GalvyTheTom
@GalvyTheTom 16 күн бұрын
Maybe large mammals evolved on islands, separate from large dinosaurs and thus able to evolve into the larger-bodied niches? Perhaps these islands just sunk into the sea and disappeared, leaving no trace of their existence. Food for thought.
@CoralReaper707
@CoralReaper707 16 күн бұрын
Interesting thought experiment, ​@@GalvyTheTom
@carlosalbuquerque22
@carlosalbuquerque22 16 күн бұрын
Patagomaia and Repenomamus are such examples
@CoralReaper707
@CoralReaper707 16 күн бұрын
@carlosalbuquerque22 repanomamus is probably one of the more popular examples of a larger mesozoic mammal. It even was known to gobble up baby dinosaurs!
@marcob1729
@marcob1729 16 күн бұрын
Well, you have to define "large" and also consider the statistics here. Excluding crocodiles, a large reptile today might be the Komodo Dragon, but think of it this way: how likely is it that one species of lizard out of ~4,600 gets fossilized and we find it? (hypothetical scenario) We've only found about 700 species of dinosaur! They were on earth for 165 million years! The largest mammal in the Cretaceous that we've found was about 40 inches long and weighed maybe 30 lbs. It was carnivorous. Were there larger mammals? Almost certainly, and they don't have to have been on a sinking island for us to have missed them. The chances of getting fossilized and being found are miniscule.
@kathleenwoods8416
@kathleenwoods8416 16 күн бұрын
Honestly, its not surprising that the selection pressure dinosaurs represent would in part lead to this kinda specification.
@operandwriter
@operandwriter 16 күн бұрын
13:16 Anyone else got a double take at Nico Robin
@Timatamelion
@Timatamelion 16 күн бұрын
Nico striked again! They were in a previous recent video
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart 16 күн бұрын
I still miss Steve!.
@justcallmeSheriff
@justcallmeSheriff 16 күн бұрын
Of course the archaeologist pirate is a fan of PBS Eons!
@sumalikasbi4805
@sumalikasbi4805 16 күн бұрын
A one piece waifu here is crazy
@vertsang5424
@vertsang5424 16 күн бұрын
always found this kind of stuff fascinating, thank you
@LimeyLassen
@LimeyLassen 16 күн бұрын
This kinda "new regime, same as the old regime" thing reminds me a lot of fish evolution. Like several times, the dominant clade of fish will decline and some minor group will diversify and replace them, and pretty much replicate all the same niches. Maybe someday monotremes will take over and we'll have monotreme bats, monotreme whales, monotreme people...
@zacharymoss2994
@zacharymoss2994 16 күн бұрын
Doubt it, egg laying is not as efficient for mammals as live birth and they would need better teeth and better energy but anything is possible
@HuckleberryHim
@HuckleberryHim 16 күн бұрын
@@zacharymoss2994 They can just evolve viviparity exactly like the therians did. They lay very rudimentary eggs as it is. Given ample time and lack of competition, if all therians disappeared, monotremes would absolutely diversify like mad.
@Andre-c6z
@Andre-c6z 15 күн бұрын
@@HuckleberryHim i’m more confident in birds or even reptiles becoming the dominant species before monotremes.
@HuckleberryHim
@HuckleberryHim 15 күн бұрын
@@Andre-c6z That's why I said with ample lack of competition, although consider that Australia was still easily "conquered" by mammals though reptiles and birds had gotten there first. Who knows.
@simtexa
@simtexa 13 күн бұрын
It's not really that surprising once you consider that the core traits required to evolve a lot of very specific traits and occupy new niches already exist in all the lineages, but get more exaggerated or specialised in some.
@OrdinaryCritic
@OrdinaryCritic 16 күн бұрын
As a therian, I approve this video.
@CommonThresher
@CommonThresher 16 күн бұрын
What is that to do with anything
@hamstsorkxxor
@hamstsorkxxor 16 күн бұрын
​@@CommonThresher I mean, you're also a therian
@OrdinaryCritic
@OrdinaryCritic 16 күн бұрын
@@CommonThresher bark bark bow wow what was I made for
@HuckleberryHim
@HuckleberryHim 16 күн бұрын
You're just biased, I am a platypus and he barely mentioned us, as usual...
@CoralReaper707
@CoralReaper707 16 күн бұрын
I kinda wish we still had at least some Multituberculates alive today. Heck, I wouldn't even mind some non-mammalian cynodonts still being around.
@Im-Not-a-Dog
@Im-Not-a-Dog 16 күн бұрын
I want a Thrinaxodon.
@whenthingsfly4283
@whenthingsfly4283 16 күн бұрын
Yeah it's pretty sad how limited the class of surviving mammaliaforms are. We have 3, and one of them is almost as scant of surviving species as the surviving sphenodons.
@CoralReaper707
@CoralReaper707 16 күн бұрын
@whenthingsfly4283 yeah, we're so lucky to even have tuataras alive at all. I kinda wish we had some non mammalian cynodonts running around on a remote island in the modern day, evolving into strange and unique forms...
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart 16 күн бұрын
While I was in Wellfleet, Massachusetts, on the Cape, I once found the tooth of a Capecododon. You can tell by the all the lobster shell and corn cob scratches in the fossilized enamel!
@Z4RD4N34
@Z4RD4N34 16 күн бұрын
😅 ​@@MossyMozart
@Zimisce85
@Zimisce85 15 күн бұрын
03:55 🎶 He's a semiaquatic, specialist mammaliaform of action 🎶
@GGregoryDarnley
@GGregoryDarnley 14 күн бұрын
For some reason I heard that in the Doofemschmirtz theme jingle
@logr12dragonknight55
@logr12dragonknight55 16 күн бұрын
Love the new video from my favorite prehistoric KZbin site, though after re-watching some of the videos on this channel a question appeared to my mind and that question is in the future. Are they going to do a video the family of dinosaurs that the famous spinosaurus in the future?
@pikciwok6360
@pikciwok6360 2 күн бұрын
I had a long break in viewing PBS Eons and I am pleasantly surprised by a new host. His voice is very pleasant :)
@Didomate
@Didomate 16 күн бұрын
I once heard someone say mammals evolved from dinosaurs 💀
@CoralReaper707
@CoralReaper707 16 күн бұрын
Lol
@endc3043
@endc3043 16 күн бұрын
You never know.. we weren't around.. maybe their a missing link...?
@leeleaman8057
@leeleaman8057 16 күн бұрын
My sister (27) asked me if mammoths were dinosaurs 🤦🤣
@Morrison-saber-tooth
@Morrison-saber-tooth 16 күн бұрын
I think, I once seen this theory on one of paleontology iceberg charts
@darkmusica1346
@darkmusica1346 16 күн бұрын
Mammals and dinosaur split long before both exist.
@mathmeetsmusic
@mathmeetsmusic 16 күн бұрын
Wake up babe! New Eons host just dropped!
@misterhat5823
@misterhat5823 16 күн бұрын
He has pubic hair on his chin.
@semaj_5022
@semaj_5022 15 күн бұрын
​@@misterhat5823 Have some respect, please.
@ghostratsarah
@ghostratsarah 12 күн бұрын
Love seeing Nico Robin supporting PBS Eons
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 16 күн бұрын
Gabriel is doing great! 👍
@spacedimensia
@spacedimensia 15 күн бұрын
13:43 As a Montanan, I get it.
@BETTYLIBRIZZI
@BETTYLIBRIZZI 14 күн бұрын
I thought this was an excellent presentation; well paced and very informative.
@ZeMarkKrazee
@ZeMarkKrazee 16 күн бұрын
Somewhat unrelated, what happened to the Konstantin Haase studio? I just realized the studio has changed haha.
@jeremyl862
@jeremyl862 16 күн бұрын
OMG Thank you for looking into multituberculates!
@Nawaf-
@Nawaf- 16 күн бұрын
1:44 omg. That background noise!! It scared me! 😭 I thought one of my cats was screaming a death scream! I ran out my room checking on them. When I returned and played the video I heard it again and realized it’s this video 😂
@xwiick
@xwiick 16 күн бұрын
Thanks for all the hard work on these videos!
@ccoodd26
@ccoodd26 15 күн бұрын
PBS PBS PBS PBS! Keep the entertaining videos coming! 👍
@butkusfan23
@butkusfan23 14 күн бұрын
"Rodents of unusual size? I don't think they exist"
@tarantulacollective
@tarantulacollective 4 күн бұрын
Fascinating video!
@narutouzumaki2157
@narutouzumaki2157 16 күн бұрын
Did mammalioforms laid eggs like other reptiles or foetus like marsupials?
@rafaelmarangoni
@rafaelmarangoni 16 күн бұрын
Yes. All amniotes laid eggs, including synapsids. The evolutionary novelty among therians is that they "lay eggs" inside their own bodies. But laying eggs is not a trait that's new in "reptiles" (sauropsids). The ancestors of sauropsids already laid eggs, like tetrapods, sarcopterygii, osteichtyes, vertebrates, chordates, etc. It's possible that even the early bilaterians laid eggs, since both vertebrates and invertebrates share that homology.
@narutouzumaki2157
@narutouzumaki2157 16 күн бұрын
@rafaelmarangoni did they form nests like platypus? Or lay eggs in burrows?
@carlosalbuquerque22
@carlosalbuquerque22 16 күн бұрын
@@narutouzumaki2157 Likely the former.
@rafaelmarangoni
@rafaelmarangoni 16 күн бұрын
@@narutouzumaki2157 Mammaliformes are not exaclty a species. It's a group, with a big variety of species within. So it's hard to answer that question, since it's much likely that you had both in that group.
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 16 күн бұрын
Obviously Therians do not lay eggs.
@katarinarosell4422
@katarinarosell4422 16 күн бұрын
Every time I hear "niche" said to rhyme with "itch" I take 1D4 psychic damage
@dersitzpinkler2027
@dersitzpinkler2027 12 күн бұрын
Welcome, Gabriel! Great presentation skills on this one!
@kevinmorgan2968
@kevinmorgan2968 16 күн бұрын
2:09 exactly how I chase hotdogs
@tobineptune5804
@tobineptune5804 15 күн бұрын
Genuinely made me cackle, I scrolled to your comment at the exact same time it popped up on screen 😂
@z-wo4ue
@z-wo4ue 16 күн бұрын
Yay a mammal episode!
@KarlBunker
@KarlBunker 16 күн бұрын
We owe our existence (at least in part) to flowers. Cool. 🌷
@Ithinkthereforeiam-ph9nb
@Ithinkthereforeiam-ph9nb 7 күн бұрын
I am a therian atheist, lol. Very cool video❤ Thank you for posting
@gg5881gabby
@gg5881gabby 8 күн бұрын
I love the Enos segment of PBS!
@kanealoha
@kanealoha 16 күн бұрын
Great video - and loved the art.
@RDKirbyN
@RDKirbyN 8 күн бұрын
Lmao, the pseudonym Nico Robin for one of the Eontologists is apt
@gustamanpratama3239
@gustamanpratama3239 16 күн бұрын
Mantap! Thank you PBS EONS for always making great science videos!❤❤ It's such a big help, especially for people in third world countries with difficult access to science content. Such a very well presented topic on a 15 minute video. Could you please extend this kind of discussion in the video all the way back to the Synapsids (what were their sister clades, and why they disappeared and only the clade we belong to that eventually thrived).
@avrilbas1257
@avrilbas1257 16 күн бұрын
I've been waiting for the calendar! Yay:)
@demetrinight5924
@demetrinight5924 16 күн бұрын
This is a really cool discovery. It looks like a beaver tailed otter. I wonder what other specialized mammaliaforms there were.
@Thelonious2Monk
@Thelonious2Monk 16 күн бұрын
Nice and informative as usual. I like the new (for me) presenter.
@TiggerIsMyCat
@TiggerIsMyCat 16 күн бұрын
Ok. So. Rise of angiosperms made more insects, which helped insectivores, and it also caused climate change which knocked out the specialists as it often does, leaving our generalist/insectivorous ancestors to thrive. I think I understand.
@nariu7times328
@nariu7times328 12 күн бұрын
YAY Complexly calendar! Love the pin Gabriel!
@legendtrainerdj0427
@legendtrainerdj0427 14 күн бұрын
Love the outtake at the end there! You definitely were getting into that there Montana spirit 😁
@apepchoko
@apepchoko 16 күн бұрын
Another great video, thks 😊👍
@LiamFranklinFarang
@LiamFranklinFarang 14 күн бұрын
Love this
@Ratty524
@Ratty524 16 күн бұрын
I want more representation of Mesozoic mammals in media, or just more prehistoric mammals in general cause it was such a distinct world even from now but the Dino’s hog the spotlight.
@takenname8053
@takenname8053 16 күн бұрын
I thank Dinosaur Train for showing me the small mammal diversity in the Mesozoic...
@krunoslavniderle3817
@krunoslavniderle3817 16 күн бұрын
Mesosoic mammals are often overlooked, but they have been allocated in more groups then today s mammals. I hope there will be uncovered more fossils from mezosoic mammals which were much more diversyfied then previously thought. Who knows we may found some never seen form of mammal.
@BenNelson-zl6lj
@BenNelson-zl6lj 12 күн бұрын
I found some speculative evolution art that features Mesozoic mammals-like multituberculates-becoming bigger mammals, carrying niches that are already owned by animals that we're familiar with today.
@PaulThronson
@PaulThronson 16 күн бұрын
Who is in charge of finding fossils? I want to help and I'm pretty sure everyone watching this video does too. Even if the chance that we get to name a species is almost zero (non-zero).
@AndrewTBP
@AndrewTBP 16 күн бұрын
Talk to your local university palaeontology department.
@festerallday
@festerallday 14 күн бұрын
I'm really digging the new host.
@TheDinosaurus99
@TheDinosaurus99 16 күн бұрын
Wow love this!!!! U learn something new everyday!!!!! Dont forgot evolutionary histories of pinnipeds and tyrannosaurids
@MichaelBurtonGahurton
@MichaelBurtonGahurton 16 күн бұрын
Great video. As always.
@elainexe
@elainexe 3 күн бұрын
This sets off a question in my mind. It's very interesting to hear about the diverse mammaliaforms that there were, and only certain types survived the aftermath of the giant meteor. This makes me wonder how it affected birds. I've heard some about early bird evolution, but what early bird diversity was lost to that same extinction event, and which ones survived? Did the surviving birds have some similar traits as the early mammals, or did they fill different niches? (perhaps more versatile in opportunity due to flight?) How did they adapt to other changing conditions like angiosperms?
@AndrewTBP
@AndrewTBP Күн бұрын
They already have videos about that.
@victoriaeads6126
@victoriaeads6126 16 күн бұрын
Excellent choice of pin, that one is the pin that convinced me to join the BB pin club 😃
@davesatxify
@davesatxify 6 күн бұрын
very interesting. also sad that youtube waited 10 days to show this to me despite how widespread my viewing of all the complexly channels is... :(
@TimesRyan
@TimesRyan 16 күн бұрын
Yay! Gabriel! Why are all the guys and gals on this channel so charming?
@blueprairiedog
@blueprairiedog 16 күн бұрын
Smart people ROCK!
@theOwnuts
@theOwnuts 8 күн бұрын
Watching this with my hefty housecat on the lap 😸
@r.green.339
@r.green.339 2 күн бұрын
I bet he found it interesting
@theOwnuts
@theOwnuts 18 сағат бұрын
@@r.green.339 no not really, he ignores my screen and focuses on the cuddling.
@asierra86
@asierra86 16 күн бұрын
All this tells me is that if these mammaliaformes would still be around today they would just be mammal 🤷‍♂️ dunno why make the distinction. It's like calling sauriscians true dinosaurs while calling ornithischians "dinosaurformes"
@dracorexion
@dracorexion 16 күн бұрын
Not necessarily. Take the Tuatara, a species of reptile in New Zealand. Despite looking like a lizard and even having some behavior like other lizards, it is, in fact, not a lizard. People make an effort to ensure the Tuatara is not confused as "just a lizard" despite its appearance. Now if the groups of mammaliaformes that are not included in "true mammals" were alive today, their classification may very well be as true mammals themselves, but they might be considered distinct enough that we'd call them something like pseudomammals or make some other type of classification for them similar to the Tuatara.
@ExtremeMadnessX
@ExtremeMadnessX 16 күн бұрын
I think the same about extinct crocodylomorphs. If they are still alive, would they be considered as just another group of crocodiles?
@ExtremeMadnessX
@ExtremeMadnessX 16 күн бұрын
​@@dracorexionThose mammaliaformes looked more like regular mammals than platypus and echidna. So there is a question: Would platypus and echidna be considered true mammals if they were extinct group?
@AlexanderRM1000
@AlexanderRM1000 16 күн бұрын
They're thought to not have given birth quite the same as placental mammals, and probably had some other differences that are apparently harder to evolve between than the more visible ones like being a flying squirrel
@lobachevscki
@lobachevscki 16 күн бұрын
​@@ExtremeMadnessXAnd dolphins look more like fish than other mammals but they are not fish, what's your point? If equidnas and platypuses were extinct taxa we wouldn't know for sure if they were modern mammals, it would be this very own situation. We classify these animals as mamaliforms because that is as much as the evidence tells us they are
@huetzizi
@huetzizi 16 күн бұрын
so when do we consider a mammal a mammal what's so different between monotremes and the others, when do the first crown mammals appear then
@ekosubandie2094
@ekosubandie2094 16 күн бұрын
Surprisingly enough it's the presence of milk and mammary gland that traditionally define crown mammals to which is kinda difficult to determine with only fossils at hands since those features obviously does not fossilize
@lividXmimic
@lividXmimic 16 күн бұрын
Love the Killerwhale pin!
@l.a.gothro3999
@l.a.gothro3999 16 күн бұрын
I get sooo excited when I see you have a new video uploaded! I was raised to know about evolution, not religion; I think that has something to do with it. I'm saving the longer "Could You Survive the..." videos for later to binge. Thanks so much!
@settrasurfs1780
@settrasurfs1780 16 күн бұрын
Landorus-Therian implies that Landorus-Incarnate is a monotreme
@shivin6997
@shivin6997 16 күн бұрын
I love the music in this episode! Where is it from?
@landonbenson9220
@landonbenson9220 16 күн бұрын
Always look forward to these videos, very cool!!
@C-Mah
@C-Mah 15 күн бұрын
I seem to remember a video from this channel where a virus moved us to placental.
@tylermacdonald8924
@tylermacdonald8924 16 күн бұрын
So in summary, an extinction that made more niches followed by angiosperms modifying the environment?
@dwilly8381
@dwilly8381 16 күн бұрын
One of my fav bloopers😂❤
@ilkoderez601
@ilkoderez601 16 күн бұрын
Love the new guy. The new girl (I like her) but it was a more difficult transition (regarding smooth narration).
@JMDinOKC
@JMDinOKC 10 күн бұрын
It's the same old story in evolutionary biology: you think you know how species evolved, and then you discover forms that are older - sometimes much, much older.
@jacobmason8275
@jacobmason8275 13 күн бұрын
Nico Robin would be a fan
@GaryJohnWalker1
@GaryJohnWalker1 16 күн бұрын
Fascinating. The century old idea of shrew like generalists just surviving up to the end of the Cretaceous iasn't yet shown to be wrong, just that the whole mammal-like story was far more complex than told and not just dinos keeping future placentals/therians down. And has this cluster of channels including Eons had its own switch to a less hospitable environment causing the rationalisation of resources including people (and calendars)?
@luthfiramadhan99
@luthfiramadhan99 16 күн бұрын
wow miss Nico Robin the archeologist? not paleontologist
@ceymiss1
@ceymiss1 16 күн бұрын
I did a double take as well
@content-7881
@content-7881 16 күн бұрын
I wonder what the dominant mammal group will be in 50 million years!
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart 16 күн бұрын
Dead?
@MarkVrem
@MarkVrem 16 күн бұрын
going by this video, odds might be highest on something small eating bugs
@eybaza6018
@eybaza6018 16 күн бұрын
Platypuses WILL take over
@b.a.erlebacher1139
@b.a.erlebacher1139 16 күн бұрын
Rodents have the most species, are extremely diverse, and have many very adaptable species. I suspect that a new immense extinction, perhaps like the one humans are the main agent of currently, could result in the most successful survivors as mice and rats.
@Manananggal-oe8gs
@Manananggal-oe8gs 15 күн бұрын
I also wonder if human still exists 50million years from now.
@BytebroUK
@BytebroUK 16 күн бұрын
Like your presentation. Over the years/months we've had 'shouty Hank', and we've had 'quiet Hank', and several other people some of whom can do either, but I think you've pretty much nailed the mid-ground as far as I'm concerned. I enjoyed the vid, and did not need to turn anything down :)
@AqeefHusaini
@AqeefHusaini 16 күн бұрын
make the history of Stingray video next please❤
@Elemarth
@Elemarth 16 күн бұрын
I really wanted a bizarre beasts calendar since I missed out last year. I'm disappointed :(
@morewi
@morewi 16 күн бұрын
Didnt they find fur in copperlite fossils from the permian period
@eybaza6018
@eybaza6018 16 күн бұрын
It's not 100% confirmed but likely. And we have no way of knowing what exact animal did they belong to
@carlosalbuquerque22
@carlosalbuquerque22 16 күн бұрын
@@eybaza6018 They likely belong to dicynodonts since the hir comes from a carnivore's faeces
@daleharsh6424
@daleharsh6424 16 күн бұрын
Is the map guy from Chicago? Is that why Chicago is highlighted on Pangea? 4:45....
@AndrewTBP
@AndrewTBP 16 күн бұрын
It’s a running gag. It’s highlighted in lots of Complexly videos.
@martijn9568
@martijn9568 15 күн бұрын
It’s made by Christopher Scotese from the PALEOMAP project, who was an undergraduate student at the University of Illinois in Chicago. You can easily find his stuff here on KZbin and over at his own website.
@kylekrizizke6115
@kylekrizizke6115 14 күн бұрын
This map is actually on a touch screen at the Chicago Natural History museum. You can go through 500 million years of plate tectonics. It's really cool. Most likely the museum and artist put it up online for anyone to see and use, or with a fee to the museum/artist.
@C-Farsene_5
@C-Farsene_5 16 күн бұрын
Somewhat unrelated question, but do we know if multituberculates layed eggs?
@carlosalbuquerque22
@carlosalbuquerque22 16 күн бұрын
No they gave birth like placentals
@zacharymoss2994
@zacharymoss2994 16 күн бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if they did, considering they're older than the 3 modern mammal groups
@carlosalbuquerque22
@carlosalbuquerque22 16 күн бұрын
@@zacharymoss2994 A recent study shows that they gave birth like placentals
@C-Farsene_5
@C-Farsene_5 16 күн бұрын
@@carlosalbuquerque22 interesting, meaning to say live birth is convergently evolved among mammals?
@ekosubandie2094
@ekosubandie2094 16 күн бұрын
@@C-Farsene_5 Multituberculates were actually more closely related to Therian mammals than Monotremes, so live birth may have been common trait shared by our common ancestors with them
@judithdomangue9995
@judithdomangue9995 16 күн бұрын
So interesting!
@markcaputo8300
@markcaputo8300 12 күн бұрын
❤❤❤❤ 😊😊 Thanks!
@johnabbe
@johnabbe 16 күн бұрын
All your videos are great to learn from, and inspiring, and this one stands out as a particularly top-notch one. Calendar looks lovely, as well! Thanks for all your work, all you animals. :-D
@Dosadniste2000
@Dosadniste2000 15 күн бұрын
Next: what happened to mammaliaformes in Cenozoic.
@KlavierMenn
@KlavierMenn 14 күн бұрын
Wasn't there an entire genus of multituberculates that survived all the way to just a few million years ago?
@Lovejoy-j6z
@Lovejoy-j6z 12 күн бұрын
Yoooooo its shadow was vivid 😮
@fen740
@fen740 12 күн бұрын
Lets hear it for the therians surviving today!
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