My Biggest Problem with Games Workshop Kits | Models and Memories Weekly #72

[@darkowl9]

The bigger challenge is when they mislabel a piece, and its number in the book is wrong. Or the English instructions just become French for a whole page. Or they don't tell you that some pieces _do_ have choice options, or they then pretend later "oh yeah this is an option, but if you built model 1 first you don't get this option here any more"...

[@colinmoffat5215]

Given the price if the box, which we all moan about.... maybe reading the instructions first was maybe the idea They are a miniatures company.....

[@Taskernator]

Sometimes, I just get carried away. when working on my helstalker, I didn't want him to have the head piece, but I gave it to him!

[@christopheraaron1255]

Have they fixed the Stormraven kit?

[@animalyze7120]

Which is why you test fit all your pieces together BEFORE gluing them. Use super glue it's easy to get apart again if needed. If you use the plastic weld chemical they call glue then yes have fun changing things up. It comes with experience but in the case of these overpriced models that can get old really hard really fast.

[@briochepanda]

GW instructions require you to go through them carefully at least once to ensure you're not accidentally locking yourself out of a specific model option. You're playing 5D monopoly with the sprue before you've got the glue out.

[@CMTechnica]

Cries in half dozen guardsmen arms that went unused

[@mrwabbit9576]

So glad I don't play tabletop. I just build and paint whatever looks coolest and throw on loads of extra bits

[@briochepanda]

@@mrwabbit9576 very much the same here but its still annoying having to put in the extra leg work at times on the "one pose fits 3 options" philosophy GW has adopted in recent years.

[@seanrydell112]

Y u p. They should have pictures of the options you can get and THEN tell you which one is which and how to build it

[@cadet6091]

I just go for it

[@snelkookpanNL]

Regarding the manuals, I recently got back to WH40k and I would really appreciate that they would name the different weapon options anywhere in the manual. Would also be more noob friendly, Many new players probably have no idea what all the weapons are.

[@warherd_miniatures]

Oh my god yeah dude I feel this. I always google advice for good loadouts, and everyone just talks about specific weapons and combos but there's no reference on most of the boxes or instructions of what the weapons are called 😂 Nothing a little googling cant help with I suppose, but man it would be nice

[@han_463]

literally every time i build a new model i have to google what all the different weapons are. I wouldn't mind so much but if a tournament or league is strict on WYSIWYG you can just get totally screwed and have unusable models or end up with a trash list cause you built them wrong.

[@colonelturmeric558]

Oh jeez yeah, recently started a craftworld vanguard detachment and had no idea wtf anything was, had to head to lexicanum

[@RobSchweitzer]

Sword Brethren was my first box when getting into the game and I didn't know what the heck I was adding when I built them, and ended up partially rebuilding later as I understood the game a little more

[@jc7997aj]

A good idea to learn to magnetize as much as possible. Money wise getting a bunch of properly sized magnets isnt that bad. And youll have tons for a long while. Have also found ball and socket type magnets that would be perfect for knight/titan/greater deamon and possibly vehicle weapon uses.

[@warherd_miniatures]

The new black templar models are phenomenal, even the primaries scouts and servitors that come with grimaldus are so interesting and detailed

[@adamschoenherr3057]

ultrasonic cleaners work by the action of "Cavitation", theres actually microscopic implosions happening along the surface which is what loosens the paint like microscopic black holes going off all around it. it's actually really cool how they work.

[@shaneheaney408]

Jay staring into my soul during that “how” was quite terrifying

[@TwoHands95]

I've had great success with a product called 'biostrip 20' for getting paint of minis. It's non-toxic and safe for the environment, too. The paint just slides off after like an hour, and you can reuse the liquid with no loss of potency.

[@endlesswaffles6504]

The rules for the Sword Brethren are so strange. Their power swords do half the damage of Bladeguard power swords, they only get 2 wounds when Bladeguard get 3, no invun save, and worst of all they can't legally take a combi plasma when the actual kit comes with one.

[@Grimpo96]

When it comes to model building instructions I always default to “Why don’t they just copy Bandai with their gundams?” GW already steals ideas, might as well steal a good one.

[@CTCParadox]

Bandai instructions are amazing. My boy is only 7 and he can blast through a kit with zero problems.

[@phht0568]

I have a leman russ instructions from 2003 and im actually surprised how full of instructions and placement of equipment, spotlights anyone, very nice reminded me of gunpla. Leman russ instructions for the "new" style tanks are absolutly abysmal, very lil instructions and i have a bunch of unknown parts still on spru. Seriously what happened the 03 instructions are so intricate and the new ones are absolute trash

[@serkman9558]

if you mean the instructions, your are probably right.When you say :"Why don’t they just copy Bandai with their gundams?” i hope you mean the instructions, because the gundams themselfes look like (bad) transformer robots from the 90ies.100% ugly af imo.

[@Grimpo96]

@@serkman9558 I mean the instructions. Like, “cut C13” so you look for the C runner and find 13, because it’s properly labeled and in order.

[@phht0568]

@@serkman9558 yes i mean specifically the instructions not copy bandai, god no i dont want uglier minis lmao.

[@Martdogg3000]

The way Jay feels about armorless squats is how I feel about basically any model not wearing a helmet. Like, that seems like a good way to just get killed really easily.

[@darkduck8736]

I feel the same, but I give characters with iron halos etc a pass. Might as well look cool with that tech and level of plot armour

[@jc7997aj]

Yall are right but I have to go with the rule of cool. There's just something amazing about the thought of an 8ft tall super human wading through a regiment of soon to be corpse puddles with no helmet and not a care in the world. Its 1 half confidence 1 half faith and 1 half sheer bad assery.

[@DatcleanMochaJo]

@@jc7997aj Conan the barbarian-esque

[@qwer9676]

might be kind of the point considering these are based of slayers

[@wakephillips]

Maybe this is my love of fantasy/aos showing -but this was the first Squat model reveal that didn't seem completely boring to me.

[@TwinStripe]

15:46/26:14 It's bad enough for the 'required' parts but GW are equally bad when it comes to the 'optional' ones. They don't tell you what any of the weapon options actually are, and you have to go and try to find a resource to look them up (in Necromunda, each faction have weapon variants with a completely separate look from faction to faction, so imagine what that's like). By comparison, look at the build instructions in the Mantic Firefight set - full instructions, with colour coding and clearly labelled equipment options for all of the units in the box ON TWO PAGES!

[@Exark141]

I would say it's like the primaris ATV, you get 1 in a box, but the unit can be 1-3. So maybe you can have 1-2 per unit

[@colinmoffat5215]

Seems quite clear its a rule that kets you split full squads between vehicles As an exception One vehicle per box is the standard Other than killa kams

[@therefromhere]

On sprue part numbers - this was really painful on the Kill Team Veteran Guards - the numbers are scattered randomly over the sprue. It really made them more annoying to put together, I was spending as much time trying to find the part on the sprue as I was actually putting the models together. I get that there's lots of tiny parts to try and fit into the sprue, but it really seems lazy that they didn't re-number the parts *after* laying out the sprue, this would have made it far easier to work with.

[@32Loveless50]

i find the manual easy. yellow is connection points the different colors are the different builds. numbers and letters is us order of to build it, and they can refer to a thing you build in a later step. example building step nr 4, then in step nr 6 you put the thing you build in nr 4 and 5 on.

[@andygrech]

Exactly! The colour is related to the build option/poses throughout the booklet (blue = option 1, green = option 2 etc). The issue I see is you have too many build options sometimes and need to flick through to see if there are specific assemblies that limit your customisation, but the instructions highlight the parts specific to a build option for you.

[@ChristopherSmith-dq2xs]

See, way back when things were a darn sight easier. You could order individual sprues, have any model cast to order from the archives if they had the mould, chat happily to the guys at GWMO and get honest responses (being told that the metal thunderhawk was £500 and a pig to put together).

[@MGee1]

Completely with you on the instructions. I've also had a number of sprues without numbers which is a nightmare!

[@DavidH373]

I always anticipate and even speak along with the "Well... I... Do!" part.

[@ToToSEAL]

I have random thought of squats riding Invictor Warsuit and I feel they belong together unlike space marine. It just click in my head.

[@maciekwilkosz6377]

I second you on your praise of Sword Brethren Jay. I don't even play Templars but I bought one for my Ultramarines army. I love Bladeguards and Victrix Guards, but I realy don't like Van Vet models. They're small and not ornate enough to stand next to Primaris Veterans, so I decided to pimp them up. I took Sword Bretheren bodies, cloaks and some weapons, than added some Presidium Shields from Custodes, some extra hammers and claws, jump packs, sanguinary guard wings and the results are insanely cool! If I had any desire to play with Sternguard I would strongly consider giving them a similar treatment too.

[@Kagán8-8]

TOTALLY agree with you about the instructions! Most of the cases they are fine, but sometimes the they are not logical, you can easily go wrong with the building, and plastic cement is no joke if you know what I mean... Not to mention that there are some mistakes in the instruction numbering and the sprue numbering as well. Please don't get me wrong I am not complaining, but as you said maybe GW is listening...

[@BootlegPainting]

Try simple green cleaner in ur ultrasonic cleaner and watch how surprising it works..... And you can reuse the batch of soap quite a few times before changing it out for fresh.... I get mine at lowes

[@kristophermelin7160]

I've been considering an ultrasonic cleaner - I've got a ton of old Citadel, Ral Partha, and Grenadier D&D miniatures from the early 80s (when I was a kid, crappy thick enamel paint was all we used.) It's nice to rework those nostalgic gems with more modern supplies (not to mention, improved skills!)

[@aerynmusick4548]

Bandai’s instructions are top notch too.

[@sarahdisco-dolly1150]

Ultrasonic cleaning is not "shaking", its the application of energy at high frequecy that creates microbubbles at the surface, the bubbles burst and the energy of bursting breaks the paint down. It helps if the paint has been softened first and has at least started to lift, that way the energy gets under the paint and lifts it off. There is a little more to it than that but this is the essentials of ultrasonic cleaning.

[@charles96541]

I royally messed up on some necron warriors when I cut out and cleaned all the parts at once, thinking it'd make assembly very fast later and allow me to have some slightly unique poses as it did with my khorne bloodletters... Turns out the arms aren't anywhere near interchangeable between poses and now about half of the chest pieces don't close down over the arms properly. Don't think it's too noticeable on the tabletop, but boy was going off-book punishing when assembling what's notoriously a beginner friendly kit.

[@markwilliams1892]

Jay concerning the colour coding system in the instructions, the colours I believe represent different build options, while non colours represent mandatory build steps for all variations.

[@irmiwolf]

I just finished putting together my Haruspex and the instructions for attaching the front pair of legs show them getting attached to the front anchor points, but shows them being attached to the back anchor points in the very next picture. That happens for both sides.

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

1) Sgt Punchy is my favorite 2) Someone on the design team felt compelled (possibly to an irrational degree) to make Dwarf Slayers in Spaaace! 3) I think the paired ATV thing is a subliminal advertising trick. They’ll probably have two in the launch box, but then sell them separately to keep the cost low(er). The Sword Brethren get the advantage of Armour of Contempt, whereas the Bladeguard don’t (because of their storm shields).

[@strifer4556]

Hey Jay, put a glass full of carbonated soft drink in the ultrasonic cleaner and you will see why it cleans so good. But make sure it still has lots of bubbles in there!

[@Artmesa]

I used to strip with Purple Power concentrate. I soaked for 24-48 hours. It worked amazing even with enamel paint. Did not damage the plastic either.

[@newworldempire]

Agreed with the instruction colours. Putting together Octarius I kept trying to come up with an explanation in my head for why they shaded some things some colours and not others.

[@oldschoolfrp2326]

I like the plastic model cement scootch and I miss it when supergluing models 3D printed in PLA filament. I just used a bunch of greenstuff to hide a serious misalignment in 2 pieces that instantly set crooked as soon as they were pressed together

[@timunderbakke8756]

These berserkers are just like the Custodes of “Emperor had a TTS”. I agree they sort of clash with the larger faction identity. I do like the axes and the big power fists. I’m not sure how well they fit aesthetically with the larger group.

[@stephenchurch1784]

The worst is when you need to rotate a piece to lock it into place. "My grot gunner don't jiggle jiggle" was the theme song for my ork buggy assembly process

[@commodusleitdorf2726]

When is comes to stripping paint I use a product called Super Clean. Its a degreaser thats kinda corrosive so you gotta wear gloves but any metal model I drop into it will have the paint falling off it after an hour of soaking (although I usually leave it overnight for maximum effect).

[@rutgaurxi7314]

How is it with resin?

[@TheeRedNight]

Do you have links to that cleaner and ultrasonic device?

[@devandewar9347]

What heads are you using for the bladeguard vets?

[@KenLord]

Skip the $20 cleaner ... get the ones that look more industrial, for around $50 to $100 or so. You can set the timer, and they have heaters.

[@acledfloyd]

What do you use for gap filling? I’m about to build my first plastic minis.

[@crumbum2]

I use lacquer thinner to remove paint from metal miniatures. It works in about 5 minutes but you can only do a few models at a time or the chemical will start to affect your skin.

[@Benjambles]

I made so many mistakes putting the Krieg kits together. They randomly put the body assembly step on the same row as finishing the previous model, and I kept missing them.

[@DimMak73]

I’ve been thinking of 3-D printing some shields that way I get more bang for my buck making blade guard veteran.

[@jeb5137]

I think the worst the about games workshop assembly is the parts numbers. You don't always start with part 1, the parts aren't always assembled sequentially, and the numbers don't correspond with their placement on the sprue. One model had part 9 on the second spru, and it took me way too long to find it. I wish they would switch to have the numbers in order on the sprues, so it would be easier to find where the piece is. I wouldn't mind starting off with gluing part 7 to part 52 (heck, I've already done things like that so they don't have that problem either), but knowing approximately where part 7 and part 52 are on the spru would be so helpful.

[@BerzerKing055]

I had an absolute nightmare building my wulfen figures a few days ago, you have to build the legs first and then attach both halves of the torso but all the details and pelts get in the way and make it nigh impossible to line up perfectly. Still got 3 more to build trying to find the patience to sit down and finish them 😂

[@scottatkinson666]

One thing I found out about using a sonic cleaner for long periods of time is that metal models can get very hot, lol. Chucked a group of 10 old school metal Grey Knights into the cleaner and by the time I got to model 10, I picked it up and actually burned my fingers to the point they blistered.

[@jimsutter2748]

4:05 "Don't call me Shirley." 😆

[@americonabroad]

I completely agree! As a noob, I chose AdMech because I loved the idea of the dichotomy between advanced technology and religious fanaticism! Building the models however was a puzzle so I made a lot of mistakes because I was unaware that the instructions were more "suggestions" for the unit rather than the way they should be. For instance I gave my one of my Skitarii Rangers a plasma rifle instead of sticking with the glavonic rifles that make the unit much more cohesive. Unfortunately the learning curve for GW models is pretty steep and it would be nice to have more explanation for the building process, especially in a combat patrol box set which is often used as a "starter" set.

[@B4D4617f]

Where did you get the ultrasonic cleaner?

[@tristanlee8495]

I had an idea that if they were going to do berserkers they should do them with votann-ified butchers nails and lots of physical augmentations in the joints. And some of the models could have a splay of needles positioned behind their heads.

[@MrSkysparks]

The idea of The Butchers Nails doesn't really fit anywhere else outside of the World Eaters though.

[@JachymorDota]

Hey Jay, talking about Warmachine: Do you think 40k armies would be more fitting to be scaled down to Warmachine levels? So 1 HQ, 1 extra hero, 1-2 infantry units and a bunch of monsters/walkers/tanks? For example, 1 1/2 Start Collecting boxes make a full army, and 3 boxes make a large game? With GW going hard on monopose and excentric models, it would befit the system if you only could fit one of each unit into your army anyway. And it would be less of a commitment to build a full army.

[@robertsurtees2667]

Gw makes new ranges, is like a band playing their new songs, when we all want them to play their greatest hits, also ultrasonic cleaners are great for cleaning resin 3d prints when filled with ipa

[@GlobalSynapse]

What's the alternative to acetone Jay's talking about? Is it a brand of nail polish remover?

[@splatterling4539]

The dwarfs look more like "cyber-bernard, the evil neighbour" who bang on your door because you are too loud eliminating heresy in your home.

[@bldos5362]

easyoff heavy-duty oven cleaner for metal models. use it outside and in a metal container of some sort. works like a charm.

[@cheech381]

Hi, Good Vid as always. QQ is LA's Totally Awesome cleaner OK to use for the current GW plastic? OR is this just for metals? How about FW And Finecast resin types? hopefully doesn't melt it. OR is there a better UK equiv for ultrasonic cleaners. I've not had much success with my cleaner at all so need some tips pls

[@FJA---]

A sonic cleaner and LA's Awesome is what I use for stripping everything that fits in the machine. I've tried Green Stuff, Purple stuff, Windex, alcohol, and a few other things. Nothing works nearly as well as LA's Totally Awesome, and at $1 to $1.5 a bottle you can't get anything cheaper.

[@Serpsor]

link to that ultrasonic cleaner?

[@andystocking5316]

You are not the only one who hates building GW minis.

[@PlasticHobbiesPNW]

It is always tempting to bring the models I screwed up on to work and use our industrial ultrasonic cleaner.

[@phaylnx]

What they could mean by "paired" is that you can take two of them for one, ten model squad. That would mean that each holds a demi-squad worth of models.

[@shanduur]

> Why are they naked? Have you ever been in mine? Me neither, but grandpa said it's hot there, so maybe that's why...

[@timunderbakke8756]

This seems plausible. I do recall watching HBO’s “Chernobyl” and those miners contracted for the clean up effort elected to lose anything that trapped heat.

[@JohnPC00]

An ultrasonic cleaner and some Simple Green works like a charm 90% of the time. Some of my 20+ year old models that I painted terribly take a few tries.

[@robotsaysyes8804]

I also recently bought a unit of sword brethren. Yes they blew my socks off. Great models.

[@SHADOWSTRIKE1]

Pro tip: buy a cheap Walmart brand electric toothbrush for scrubbing needs. The cheap ones tend to not have features like “turning off after a certain time” or “vibrating different to tell you to change locations” which would be annoying with scrubbing models. With the electric toothbrush, you can basically turn it on, push it to the intricate detail section giving you troubles, and it’ll scrub for you.

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

Another use for them is to cut the bristles off and replace with a sanding or polishing pad as used by dremel type devices (or cut down sheets of sandpaper) and you have a small sanding and polishing device for little investment.

[@thefallenmonk605]

I bought these instead and converted to blade guard. 3 vs 5 to a box for damn near the same price

[@RobSchweitzer]

The Sword Brethren were a nightmare to build because of the rear capes, but they're gorgeous. The Primaris Crusader Squad's Sword Brethren cape only has two contact points behind the backpack, so I actually used that to replace a cape on a model from the SB box when i wanted to do an arm and weapon swap and the original did not fit. The forced posing due to three contact points wtih the stock capes is the only thing I don't like about the models, especially when there's that extra part on the shoulder pad with the inevitable gaps (I covered those with the mini shields instead).

[@madosx9903]

I am really excited about the new warmachine rules and the new miniatures

[@MrSkysparks]

People ACTUALLY play that!?

[@swabilius]

I was under the impression that if you put your airbrush in the ultra sonic, it could damage the delicate rubber O rings inside.

[@timunderbakke8756]

Also, I’m pretty sure you just sold me a sword brother kit. I have a Templars army but I never got around to them - the only new ones I got was the army box with the new crusaders and HQs + Helbrecht.

[@duppy666.]

Coal miners often worked topless back in the day because it was hard hot sweaty work maybe they took inspiration from that.

[@ab-wz2ny]

As far as the instructions go.. idk try to grab a chaos demon kit from 2011.. no numbers on the sprue for the majority of bits, you gotta find the bit by how its drawn in the book

[@ml6158]

Also don't rinse them in water, it neutralizes the chemical reaction, just brush them without rinsing or rinse with the stuff you stripped with until you are done.

[@philpeters3689]

View the squat berserkers as viking berserkers. A vanguard. Scantily clad. Running infront/flanking for your main armoured troup. When I first saw the models I didn't like they were top less. But then I heard the squad name

[@lv100Alice]

i am not a fan of the leagues of wutang but them berserkers looking really nice

[@jack-a-lopium]

Same... and one of them has a pair of green Hulk-hands 😆

[@vladimirpalik6697]

I like the Wargames Atlantic squats design more.

[@LeviathansGrotto]

Yeah, the tactical viking look is neat. I like the Mantic forge fathers models.

[@annasstorybox7906]

Maybe they went full on miner? There are plenty of pictures of historic miners wearing their workpants, helmet, knee guards but no shirt at all and if I remember correctly I read in a local coal mining museum here in Germany that the part of equipment ditshed the most was the shirt. Apparently it took safety inspectors the longest to enforce wearing shirts... There are also a pictures of WW2 submarine engine room crew working topless... So it seems there is real live evidence for heavy industry workers and people working in confined and dangerous places to go topless...

[@pekvanc5354]

I think there isn't a quaherent vision for squats. And it's just wierd. I stopped collceting Genestealer Cults for the same reason, some units are this some are that. Is it Mad Max? Miniming company? Tyranid bodyhorror? What is it?

[@vaniellys]

Chthonia is an Ancient Greek word to designate the underworld and some gods like Hades. And I agree, these Berserkers really need heavy armour.

[@Therealmanticorejones]

So I’m guessing that the “how?” Montage is coming at episode 100?

[@Bungawunga1923]

Do you guys remember the Stompa build instructions? That's all I have to say in regards to the quality of their instructions

[@danielbear9183]

I wonder if we'll ever get to see the live studio audience you keep mentioning....

[@OUTSTANDINGLYBRITISH]

That is suspicious

[@ANDYZCHANNEL]

11.46 watch the video of the painting. Is it up yet?

[@axcel9128]

Can‘t wait for your take on the Space Furries helmets

[@IronModeOfficial]

Hopefully they will have some customization options. I’m really excited for squats but I agree with they look a little idk, it’s hard to explain lol

[@MrSkysparks]

I don't think it's hard to explain. They look more generic than Ultramines, their design is all over the damn place, and it feels like they're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole with the lore. Feels more like JK Rowling is tweeting all the lore for modern Squats.

[@IronModeOfficial]

@@MrSkysparks honestly it looks like old fantasy warhammer mixed with 40k way to much

[@ryanhood6969]

so I have a magic paint stripper that is honnestly insane. its this stuff called Uni Solve. it is an adhesive remover for medical purposes. it does not do anything to plastic models and it is very available on Amazon and other places. I would love for you to try it and give me your opinion on it!

[@timsplinter1321]

Ultrasonic isn't just shaking... it creates micro-bubbles on the surface of things in the tub and as the bubbles collapse again they create a tiny little shockwave of sorts that does the real work... it can in fact eventually eat away plastic and metal.

[@venkelos6996]

So, as an outside who got into 40k after Squats were already mostly squatted, and who never got into Warhammer Fantasy, this is purely my opinion, but I think we can blame WF Dwarven Dragonslayers. If you look back in time, these up close, vicious warriors carried hammers and axes into battle, and they didn't wear armor; they looked silly, being round, and naked above the waist, with their mowhawks, and braids, but something about their task, their tattoos, their magic, or something, made them like Viking berserks, and their flesh could repel even dragon fangs and claws. These new Cthonian Berserkers feel like an homage to those, and I bet they don't wear armor for the same reason. Also, if you look at Col. Strikes, of Catachan fame, I think he's basically got power armor saves without even wearing flak, because he's so teched up his body is as hard as steel. I'm going to admit, I too wish they were armored, but I think they look nice, and that set of basically powerfists one is my favorite of those. I would love to see some Catachan Veteran sporting dual power fists, like that, and just wrecking stuff, and I don't even really like Catachan. ☺️ I think those new Black Templars look good, as does your paint scheme. Sadly, that's well and out of my own skill level, at present, and since I don't need to paint an army, I find it very difficult to find a way to practice the things I don't do, like greenstuff, washes, or purchasing an airbrush, but I love seeing other people's great works. If I'm being honest, I'm actually mad at how GW dies some kits. They have things that people don't mass purchase, even in successful lines, and that makes perfect sense, but I really think that they could maintain a small sideline where people can order those, and get a 3D printed model tight from GW. They really like to bring the anointed banhammer down on some people who copy their stuff, and I get that; it's their intellectual property, and they have a right to protect it, even though there are numerous things that they don't make, because it might not be worth it, that I'd like, but while I don't expect them to say "we don't want to make more Court of the Archon models, since no one fields them, or each of them", or Uruen Rakarth; whatever model it is, there are still people who might want them, and while it makes sense not to print a bunch, and sell three (I remember what almost killed 3e Dungeons & Dragons, with their multitude of splat books), they could easily still make a few, on demand. I'm not saying give out the STL, or whatever; still their IP, but don't take away whole options, especially when it can mean "if we don't sell an exact model of that, it won't be an option in the codex" strikes. Don't tell Mr my hyper-customizable Autarch can only have two specific builds, and THEN put a third I couldn't use on the new cover. They could easily, even cheaply, keep fans happy, and possibly even prevent some of the third party competition they claim they don't like, just by doing this easy practice. I never played Warmachine. I think I have some of the old rulebooks, but my best exposure was simply converting an Asphyxious, the Iron Lich into a Necron Lord, AR the start of 4e, when Codex Daemonhunters was new, and Necrons were still Oldcrons. I don't know Warmachine well, but it looked cool, and you could get into it more cheaply than 40k, since your force was much smaller. Maybe I'll check and see what shape Cryx is in, these days, as a new edition of WM rises.

[@beng6149]

The Votann Berserkers are the best thing they've shown off.

[@sheriffsnowtrooper6516]

Yup I 100% agree with you on the berserkers

[@77loka]

but J, didn't the black Templar kill off their primaris expansion package?

[@heckinmemes6430]

"RRRAGGH! BERSERKE.." *Pop, pop pop, pop pop* "Well done Telemecris, headshots all around!"

[@mrgiggles247]

I think the PP 3d printing thing could be amazing for just making models on demand. Someone buys an Asphyxious: 1. Fire up the printer and print him out 2. get the appropriately sized box 3. Print box art on box 4. Put model in box 5. Ship Cut down on wastage and improve availability. Unlike GWs occasional "hey buy this old model while you can" thing, they can have an entire back catalogue of computer files just ready to go. You could buy a model that no-one has bought in 10 years because the rules suck and still just get it regardless. Also potentially not have to pay ridiculous overseas shipping.

[@Dragonfire-tn2jg]

You could also try Superclean, strips paint that LATA does not.

[@twisttie85]

Honestly I don't mind the new models. It looks like they took heavy inspiration from the miner from the HBO Chernobyl. I really like when I can see what the artist drew inspiration from.

[@MijHataki]

they also need to check there step I had a part in the kill rig listed backwards

[@NateJones10]

Oh, one minor nitpick. The GSC Goliath is much bigger than the Sagitaur ATV. Like, probably 4x the size.

[@karlkhaos5877]

How this for an idea???? Think horus heresy meets highlander. What would your interpretation of "The One" look like. And how would you incorporate trophies taken from the vanquished? All chapters must be included in the final product. Do you have what it takes to live forever?

[@CMTechnica]

On the topic of the space dwarfs, I will lose my shit if they get a 9th codex before IG. Especially with the rumor- accurate or not - of 10th being around the corner I’d dare say save the space dwarfs for 10th

[@weetsy1]

chthonian is an uncommon, but very real-world adjective that means "from the under world; or subterranean." You can find it in most dictionaries.